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ENGLEWOOD CITY COUNCIL
ENGLEWOOD , ARAPAHO E COUNTY , COLORADO
Regular Session
Apri l 19 , 2010
Ca ll to Order
The regular meeting of !he Englewood Ci ty Council wa, called lo order by Ma yor Woodward at 7 31 pm
Invocatio n
The mvocation as given by Co un cil Mem ber Mccaslin
Pledge of Allegiance
Tne Pledge of Allegiance wa s led l'.' Counc1l Mr .1ber Mccaslin
Roll Call
Present
Absent.
Council Members Je ffers on . Olson , Pen n, Gllhl, Mccaslin , Wilson ,
Wood ward
None
A quorum was pres ent
Also present City Manager Sears
C11y Allorn ey Brotz man
Cit y Cle rk Elh s
Depu ty City Cle rk Bush
Director Gryg lew1cz, Fin ance and Admm1 st rat1 ve Services
Direc tor Fonda , Utilities
Director White , Comm unit y Develo pmen t
Pohce Command er Co ndreay
Ma na ger of Open Space Lee , Parks and ~ecreat io n
Recreati on Services Man age r/Go lf Sp ada , Parks and Rec reation
Housing Finance Specialist Gn rn mett . Commu nity Develop men t
5 Consi deratio n of Minut es of Previ ous Sessio n
(a) CO UNCI L MEMBER GILLIT MOVED , AND COUN CIL MEM BE R WILSON SECONDED , TO
APPR OVE THE MINUT ES OF TH E REG Ul ,AR CITY COUNC IL ME ETING OF APRIL 5, 2010 .
Mayor Woodward asked 1f there were :-:;,'f mod1f1cat1ons or co rrec tions Th ere were no ne
Vot e res ults :
Mo tion earn ed
Ayes Counci l Membe 1 s Penn , McC as hn , Wilson , Woodwa rd, Jefferson
Olson , Gilli !
Na ys None .6 Re co g niti o n of Sr.hecl uled Publ ic Comme nt
Th ere were no scheduled speakers
Recognition of Unscheduled Public Comment
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(a) Steven Hoelter, an Englewood res ident, sa id I'm here to address the 1nclus1ve communities and
the ci ties of service ideas that you guys are trying to bring forth here I think this 1s someth ing that sh oul d be
con sidered mor e than Just by City Council I think 1f you guys are going to adopt any 1nclus1ve commun1ty ideas
through the Natronal League of C1t1es and C1t1es of Service I think this 1s something that maybe needs 10 be put
on a ballot , not be voted on by Counc1 ! I think the City of Englewood needs to practice 1nclus1on before the y get
involved with this Citizens who come ... own and speak up . but happan to go against the grain of City Council
and the powers !hat be . are usually !urned off and ignored That's not inclusion Another th ing , too, 1s that the
City .. City Council has a problem with transparency . All "1e stuff, the Information that the people need to be
informed and make dec1s1ons about what's happt!ning in ._1ur town , you deeply bu ry in the website or 11's hard to
find and digest That's not very inclusive eithe And when I th ink about inclusiveness, I think about how the City
ana City Council has handled th e Ba rtnick s1tuat1on . That doesn't sound very inclusive to me The other th 1nJ,
too . 1s I k111d of looked at the National League c! Cities website and it seems to just be a trade orgamzatlon for ci ty
government people And it's all .. when you 1ead thei' website , they are a big lobbyist organ ization And when you
sig n en w ith them us taxpayers are paying ;cur du e s That's money that goes to lobbying And all of their
mformat1on ;1bout lobbymg speaks Just aboL •t :he group themselves There hasn't been any discussion from hke
the National League of C1t1es that I can find on the website, standing up for the American worke r and the jobs that
have been outsourced. It seems like all the NLC wcirits to do 1s to protect the JObs of th e municipal workers As
far as c1t 1es of service goes and volunteering , volunteermg 1s something that a person gives of themselves to
oth ers That's the act of volu nteermg Government cannot force that Either a person has 11 w1th 1n themselves to
give of themselves to volunteer or th ey don't The other th ing too 1s that I don't see where the C ity of Englewood
is really lacking for vo1un 1eers The great thmg about Americans 1s that when th e chips are riown , Amerit:ans put
the ir poht ,c s 1n their back pockets and they Jump together, such as 1n times of floods or tornadoes and that kind
of thi ng So I would urge you people to at least bring this to th e people Let us have 30 days, 60 days to read on
th is and 1:west1gate 11 , before you guys act on :t Thank you very much
Ma yo r W oodwa rd sa id thank you
(b ) Ida Mae Nicholl , an Englewood resident , said good eveni ng A few weeks ag o I spoke before thi s
City Counc il ask ing you to vote no on spending to attend th e National League of C1t 1es 1n Washingto n D C That
d1dn ' happen, but ins tead you brough t back to us another na tional government prog ram Why a~e you voting to
JOJO the parlnersh1p for working toward the 1nclus1ve committees and the declaration of service called the Serve
Am~nca Act? With all due respec1 , I really do not understand why our t. ty government cann ot handle our local
issues anymore and lead our citizens , as generatio ns have in the past. wi th out Washington D C leading us We
are a loca l comm unity When we read all of the information on th is part nersh1 ~ wi th the NLC , 31 pages , 11 reall y
sound s wonderful , but 11 1s a utopia We are not perfect and we cannot get th ere We ca nnot say yes to
everythmg we want and ignore th e cost 1n government programs are always costly H0'h can y'1u vo te for th is
w hen you don't really know what th e cost 1s gomg to be? 1 st ro ng ly oppose posting signs a1 1u nd ou r community
that stale that we are an 1ncl us1ve ci ty Just what does that mean? W ho gets to deci de th ..i ~ Just remember
when you say all 1nclus1ve that means the bad along w 1tli the good I also o ppose the wek arrn signs that reflects
all the maier langua9es spoken 1n our commum:y If you a,e takm g my money to post sign s around the Ci ty then
I wa nt you 10 use m y money to be spent on learning Engl1sh signs I am opposed to th e n1a ny resolut10ns ,
proposals an d panriarsh,ps w ith the Nat ion al Le ag ue of C1 hes . b eca use thi s 1s a governn '?,11 taking over more of
our lives The chrn ce of serving 1s voluntary and 11 1s th e c 1t1zens ' c hoice and they have alwn ys done so
gen erations before and they have ris en to the occasi on The deeper quest10n here and th e meaning of words that
th e Nallona l League of C1t1es ustn g 1s what and how much do they wa nt to control us? Th ey sa y suc h thing s as
enroll m th is partnershi p 1t 1s a better future for all c1t1zen s, the importan ce and value of 1nclus1on commumt1 es
and words like advanctng stra tegies, harnessing of foc··3. service , coal1 t1on members and many more phrases I
do not bel ieve that our Mayors , Council and government should and they do not have the nght to harness and
focus our c1 t1zens I respectfu lly ask you to consider this 1s the Nation al Leag ue of C1 11es trying to harn ess our
local govern men ts across our na tion to H·eir w ill an d th eir wa y of th1 nk1 ng ? Please use com mon sense And
there ,s an old saying "to herd us lik e s heep" I nopefully res pect that they are not herd ing ~ .)U to sheep to be
hke sheep .. to fo ll ow Thank you very much
Mayor W oodward and severa l Counci l members said tha nk yo u
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(c) Doug Cohn an Englewood resident said that's a cool hght ! haven't seen that before I v,ant to
ta ll-\. about the 1nclus1ve city thmg I was trying to thmk of us as bemg non-1nclus1\ ~ I th ough t about all 0f the
protec ted classes sex color. age rehg1ort sexual preference , and d1sab1h11e:.; and re:iters and I haven't noticed
1 at we have been exclusive as a C11y So then I said . wetl . who ts being excluded 1h01 we need 10 1ncluae? 1
th ought of the Swed ish small area meeting :ast week l heard that several people who v.1ent to the meeting
decided heard felt that tile dec1s1ons were already made and their mput was not much ai,:,orec,ated or destred I
th ought of the gravel dnveway issue from a couple of years ago A number of people came ar.d talked about that
a'1d I remember what Ci ty Attorney Brotzman said, dunng that discussion . these guys missed the publ ic meeting
and there's probably no reason for you to pay any att ention 10 what they are saying now Y0J dtd pay attention
ano there were a whole bunch Gf meettngs about 11 and then the whole issue d1sappe~ red down some black hol~
somewhere It still has not been resolved I thought at a sign code meeting last fal' I remember the busmess
guys had great ideas on the sign code things and a few steps were taken , but the business guys didn't really fee l
hke th ey were mclud •·d I th ought of Nancy Petersen's stuff from the City Police and the conversauon Bev
Cummins had with you a whi le bac'< where she felt that you all weren't paymg any attenuon to her , even when
she brought a p9t1t10n with quite a number of signatures of citizens who wanted to have something for Nancy
Wnat I conclucied was that the c1ttzens are the excluded ones There are a numoer of people interested 1n
engaging you all 1n ideas, concepts and discussions and a number of those guys are feehng excluded There
have beer• some :hmgs th:ll you do that l really do applaud I think one o the first steps 1n mclus1on 1s
commumca t1on The inclusion on the website of the age ndas and the meeting matenal~. th e audio that you put
up all good steps Turning on the TV broadcast would be a great ad d1t1onal step to reach out to engage th e
citizens 1f you really want to be mclus1ve Last week Bob and Jill and Linda thought that accountab1l1ty on the part
of City Council wou ld be a very good thing to see 1f we can become mclus1ve And t have 1ust run out of lime
Thank you
Mayor Woodward said thank you Doug
(di Matt ew Cra:Jtree an Englewood resident h1 there and g00d ewmng Here to talk abo11t the
same topics as the others ct11es of service and inclusive c11 1es First off. with the c1 t1es of service and for the
benefit of t11e people that are m the audience tomght. this program can be best summarized as government
1m olvement 1n the volunteenng your vo lunteering m the community Now don't get me wrong I support
1otu nteensm I volunteer myself quite a bit I real ly en1oy g1v1ng back 10 th e commu nity I cio not feel that this 1s
the place for government to mvolve themselves m volunteen srn or encouragmg volun teers or o: any level of that
Here's the reason why any level of gov13rnmenl po11t1cs and poht1cal storms and issues that are 1oht1cal Imes get
brou ght up 11 1s very puss1ble thal on ce our gr ,ernment utans mvolvmg the ms :.Ives and encoura~ rig
vo lun teensm between one orgamzaw:m or another tha t 11 may tnen be weighted by pol1t1cal behE.fs , £Orne
orgamzattons may be excl ud ed based upon the 1r part1CL1lar views That 1s . JI the place of our government That
is not the purpose of our government The oth er issue here is inclusive :ommum11es I am not clear as 10 wha1
th is inclusive corT1mun1ty's thing actually means I have read 11 over I have looked 11 over There 1s no def1n1t1 on
as :o what inc! s1vc commJmties or inclusive even means as a defm1t1ori m the document 1 thmh : ,·. as clear
frc'11 the Study Session last week that none of you cou' j even dPfme what inclusive meant The only clear matter
1n this or clear d1rect1on thal this mctus1ve commur:111es program specified was that there was suoposed 10 be a
big event where we declare Englewood as an 1nclus1ve commun,ty and then spend our taxpaye1 money for signs
tc oe put throughout the City Well. 11 doesn't make any sense 1f w~; don't know what we are votmg on or what this
is or what even th is 1s defined as Just by sm,ply putting up a sign and def1111ng ourselves as an 1nclus1ve
comm um1 y does not make curse!" -., ,nclus1ve It almost seems as though w ith these and th e com mon thrcr1d
bet\veen these two programs 11 seems as though th ere 1s a large orgamzat1on spoon.feeding 1nforma11on to small
\:,overnn ,ents such as ours I th ink that orgamzat1on the Nationa l League of C1 t1e s the orgamzat1on 1s so secret
10 lo bby ror the nghts of governments but not necess;1nly the nghts of th e people An organrzat1on that we pay
au~ tax dollars. every year to be a member of 1n this commumty that benefit you at"ld feed you th is mformat1on
Englewood has for 100 years been an independent commumly Can we not think for ourselves? Thank yrJu
Ma yor Woodward said thank 1•ou
(eJ Phil Gilham an Englewood resident sai d evening Again I'm here to say a few words about th e
cit.es of service and the mclu .:we comrnumt1es I thmk any action on th ese two items would be premature at th is
point I would echo Mr CrabllL'e s sentunent There 1s nowhere many of the documen1at1on I' • ..: ::iet:11 ::iu ,ar 1s
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there any defm 1t,o n .f what 1nclus,on means And ••,1hen 'JVU see a prog ram that 1s put out at a local to national
leve l. with out dP.f1mt 1on 11 JUSI ma ker; vou thi nk, we ll it's the ne w phrase 1s well let's vo te on II so we can find out
what's 1n 11 It Is preniature Th e ct y of service one of the thmgs I would lIKe to know abo~t it before there are
any proc1amat1ons ab ou t 1t, 1s the last paragrap h down here "ensurmg that the voices of c't1PS 1s heard and
federal legislative pol icy and program d1scuss1ons rel ated to service wh ich w ill he lp the COL .' achieve th e
am t:::1t1ons goals of this Serve Amenca Act Put out so rr.e mf ormat 1on on what th ose am b1t1or1s and goals are and
why we would even wanting to be involved l'v~ been involved with the City with a lot or community service
th rough Eagle Scout pro1ects It 1s a matter ol calling Jerry up and saying hey Jerry, you got anything that needs
done? You know, on a local level , 1n the re a'. \\1J rld , it gets service handled Have everybody 1n the City
government that needs to have a service proJer.t done let the City Man ager l~now Put an art,~le m th e paper
saying 1f you want to do service at the City contact the City Manager's offi ce Maybe put 11 up on the w ebsi te
Thats about all that you need I rea lly questi on the need for this in vo lvement with the Nauonat League of C1t1es
don't get II Before you go forward on this. come back to us and let us know wr.at 1h1s 1s really abnu l Thanks
Ma yor Woodward said thank you
(f) Beverl y Cumm,m an Englewood resident, said I am not prepared but I th in k everybody else was
and I agree with them 100% If we were allowed , I would have applauded each and every one of them We ha ve
al l nme of you s1Utng there and making us fee l li ke 11 doesn't matter what we say. you're not going to listen to us
anyway so why bother And that's the whole community m a lot of ways They don't come unless they have a
gripe, wh 1cn what differen ce does 11 make, beca use you don't listen to us It's like with the plaquc>s for Nancy
Petersen I don't even know where they are I'd like to kno ,v Did you burn tllem? Or, you know wh y didn't you
put th en, up hke you sard you would? The re are so many thmgs that go by and are more or less swe pt under the
ru g And why don't we count? Doesn't ou r we don't appreciate getting up he re and it's all not negative but the
reason tha! we do lhts 1s because we don't agree wit h you and that makes us wr Jng I do app reciate your
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& Communications, Pro clamations an d hppointmc nt s
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considere d
A proclamation declaring Dr Roscoe Davidson as Englewood's C1 t1 ze n of the Year for 2010 wa s
COUNCIL MEMBER PENN MOVED , AND CO UN C IL MEMBER GILLIT SECONDED, TO DE CL A RE DR.
ROSCOE DAVIDSO N A S EN GLEWOOD'S CITIZEN OF THE YEAR FOR 201 0.
Mayor V\/oodward .ia1d before d1scuss1on . I would hke to read th e proclama t1on ~W HEREAS each year the City
Council of the City of Englewood. Colorado honors a C111zen uf tht (ear who has mad!'.! s1~r11f1rant contnbut1om, t-:
the c.ommunny of Englewood an WHER AS Dr Roscoe Davidson has been mvolve:t 1n the Englewood
commumty fo r many yea rs and WHEREAS Dr Davidson served as Superi ntendent of Englewood Schools fr .,~
years and 1s a well-re spected educational leader who has im pacted stud ents and families acre,.;s the community
arid dcross t estate and WHEREAS 1n add1 t1 on to his pos1 t1 ve impact on th ~ school communi';' Or Davidson
has g,ven generously of ti·s time to th e community of Englewood th ro,igh his wolvem ent 1n th e Englewood
Education Foundation th e Fnglewooa L10ns Club an d th e Swedi sh Hospita l Resources Board .:ind W HEREAS
the Englewood Ci ty Council wishes to honor Dr Davidson for h•s contnbut1U11s to thE: City of Eng1 ~wood and for
th e pos1 t1v e impact he has had 1n our commun:ty
Mayor Woodward said w1 1r tha t I would ltke to open 11 up for d1;;cuss1on
Council Member Penn said I'll 1ust say that even though he was the superin tendent he did many many more
things for the City of Englewood He worked with the bus inesses He worked with the hospita ls He worked with •
t~,e City th roughout It was a great cooperauon He still ts working Even bemg re tirerl for th e last 12 years he 1s
still workmg for the City of Englewood sll ll doing things fo r Engle wood Pubhc Schools Just him walk11 1o m the
room lig hts up other people I thmk him Just bet , ) around you makes you a bett er person And I strongly approve
of this proclamation
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Council Member Mccaslin said I would ltke tr second t1at and as an educator knowmg Dr Davidson , what a
wonderful guidance he was to this co,ir-:rn:ty And like Ra noy said , he 1s still 91v1ng back He com es to the
Englewood Educa tion Foundation dinnern I le 1s very ac tive s111111· the community I second that What a great
nomination we made
Ma yo r Woodward said I would lrke to mentio n olso that not only with the Ctty of Englewood regionally he has
had an impact Over a year ago, he took on the superin tenden t of She ridan schools , ~e n they were 1n need and
helped them get th rough a tough year As Randy said Roscoe 1s somebod y that at th e service club
luncheon for service clu bs last year Dr Davtdson was honored and he gets up there and he 1s Just totally
comfortable with people and 11 JUSt showr; I thmk he has done a lot I know he has been involved with the
schools since I've been here which t!:. • ,1e r 33 years , so I certainly support him as our C1t1zen 01 th e Year also
Mayor Woodward said are there any other comments? There, were none
Vote results :
Ayes Council Members Penn, McCashn , Wilson , Wood ard Jeffer;;on
Olson . Gill1t
Nays None
(b) A proclamati on decla ring th e week of Apnl 18 throug h April 24 , 2010 as Wastewa ter Worker
Recognition Week was considered
COUNCIL MEMBER G ILLIT MOVED, AND COUNCIL MEMBER Mc CASLIN SECONDED. TO OECLARE THE
WEEK OF APRIL 18 THROUGH APRIL 24 AS WASTEWATER WORKER RECOGNITION WEEK .
Ma yor Woo'1wa rd asked 1f there was an y d1scu ss 1on
Mayor Woodward said I would hke to read parts of this also because these are for those workers at the
Littleton/Englewood Wastewater Treatm ent Plant and staff This 1s the third largest w astewater treatment plant m
the State of Colorado It 1s being honored City Manager Gary Sears announced ton ig ht at th e Stu dy Session
th at II was up for nom1nat1 on for an award , a na tional award for 1ts engineering feat, one of eight to be selected
At one point , 1t wa s the large st Pu~l1c Works construction pro1ect m the State . second only to T•Rex , wh ich was
the recons tru cti on of 1-25 south. through the metro area So ''WHEREAS, Colorado s water 1s a valuable
ec:inom1c env1ronmen ta l, and recreat10na l resource tha t should be protected , WHEREAS, Colorado 's wastewater
treatmeni workers consistently work to improve the cleanliness of Colorado's streams . rivers , and lakes. and
WHEREAS Colorado's wastewater treatment workers include operators maintenance personnel . labc~a 101y
wo rkers sewer maintenance workers . b1 osol1 s work ers 1ndustr 1al wdste pretreatment workers. ad rrnms trat1vc
work ers engme ers . and supplier s and WHEREAS n 1s f1ttmg to honor Col orad o·s wa stewater workers for
protecting th e water and environment of th is state and WHEREA S. B111 Ritter Jr Govern or of the State of
Colorado has proclai med Apnl 18 through 24 2010 as Wastewate r Workc, s Recogn1t1on Wrs k for th e State of
Colora do·
Mayor Wooaward asked 1f there were any other comments
Council Memoer G1l ht .,aid I would like to thank St J for his leadership Stu Fonda I had the great privilege of
touring our water plant and our 'Aas tewa ter plant What an eye openmg , 1ncred1ble experience I want to thank
Stu and 111s staff I am very proud to have such a professional, good working , wonderful contributors to our
comrnun .. _1 Than~ 7ou Stu
Co un c il rA embe1 Olsen sa id I w a'll to echo that as ue11 I thmk R1rk and ! did the tour tog ether so we are pro babl y
the newest w ith the rnos1 awe . bee.a us~ we didn't \..n(,w whal was I eally going on underneath our dnnk1ng water
everyday or behind 11 all So, I apprec iate all of the workers there One of the things tha t I learned on that tour 1s
that you actually get your nose qua11f1ed for srnelhng certam things . in order to make sure things are under certain
standards and th at paid off very well this last year . as we all know with an 1nc1dent th at ccurred I thought ti was
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funny at the I 1me, but Ii was ver y real So , I appreciate the hard work people do , even m smelling , so thal we can
have safe water Thanks
Mayor Woo'.Jward said and I think I 1ust wanl to add to thiS L1ttleton /Englewr,od Wastewater Treatment Plant,
which 1s ~! South Platte 11ver Dnve and basically Santa Fe .. Dartmouth st..vices an area from 1-25 going west to
the footh1lls , from Yale Avenue going south to C-470 I believe th at ,s approxima tely 300 ,000 people As Rick
and Lmda had mentioned , the treatment plant is open for a tour lt 1s not what one may think , but 111s very 111s
something that ,s very, very interesting If you are able to get to th e end or 1t whe,e 1t goes 1n to the Plalte, there's
a cup the re that you can take a drink of the water coming out of 1t, that will show yo u how clean that water really
is. And that water happens to be cleaner than some of the wa ter thal ,s coming through the water treatment
plants of some commumt1es
Counc il Member G111it said for the re cord , I did oot drink Coun cil Member Penn said I did I have trust I have
faith in Stu Council Member Olson said for the record , no one offered . Mayor Woodward said for the record .
Randy is the only one that I know of that has .. There was laughter
Council Member WIison said we are very fortunate and very lucky to have a water department m its entirety It is
so import an t. .. our water. It ,s SJ Ch a great resou rce and such an important one And the people behind 1t.
working 1n the water department , we are very , very fortuna1 c
Mayor Woodward said well , this ts the wastewater We have a grc:1t partner in Littleton
Ma yor Wood ward said are there an y other comments? There were none
Vote res ult s:
Mo11on earned
Aye s
Nays
Coun cil Memb er~, Penn . Mccaslin Wilson , Woodward. Jefferson ,
Olson , G1llit
None
MJ yor Woodward present ed the proclamallon to Stu Fonda He said ..:ong ratulat1ons and ple ase pass on the
recogm l1on of ~:a ff an d the workers . the day -to -day workers there th at really make 11 happen Several Council
Memners said thank you
Conse nt Age nd a
(a) Approval or Ordinances on First Read ing
There were no items subm itt ed for approval on fi rst readin g
~OUNC IL MEMBER WILSON MOVE O, ANO CO UN CIL M':MBER McC ASLIN SECONDED , TO APPR OV E
CONS ENT AGENOA ITEMS 9 (b) (i) and (ii)
(b) Approval of Ordinances on Second Rea ding
(1) ORDIN ANCE NO 12 SER IES OF 20 10 (CO UN C IL BI LL NO 7, IN TR ODUCED BY
COUNCIL MEMBER WILSON )
AN OklJINANCE APPROVIN G A "COOPER ATIVE AGREEME NT" BE '1'NEEN THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD
AND D ENVER URBAN GARDENS FOR TH E LE ASE, DEVELO PMENT ~ND MANAGEMENT OF A
CO MMUNITY GARDEN AT rHE ENGLEW OOD D[POT PROP ERTY LOCATED AT 607 W EST DA RTMOUTH
AVE NUE
(11 ) ORDIN ANCE NO 13. SERIE S OF 20 10 (C OUNCIL BILL NO 8. INTRODUC ED BY
COU NC IL MEMBER McCASLIN )
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AN ORDIN ANCE AUTHORIZIN G A "LICENSE -CITY DITCH CROSSI NG AG REEMENT' TU CITY OF CHERRY
HILLS VILLAGE TO LICENSE AN EXISTING SANITARY SEWER MAIN CROSSI NG THE CITY OF
ENGLEWOOD'S RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR THE CITY DITCH BETWEEN THE CITY OF CHERR Y HILLS VILL AGE
AND T HE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD , CO LORADO
Vote results :
Motio n carried
Ayes Council Members PPnn , Mccaslin , Wilson . Woodward . Jefferson
Olson , Gill i!
Nays None
(c) Resolu tions and Mot io ns
The re were no add1 t1onal items su bmitted for app·oval on firs t reading (See Agenda Item 11)
10. Public Hearing Items
No pubhc heanng was scheduled be!ore Council
11 Ordinances, Resolution and Motion s
(a) Approval of Ordinances on First Reading
There were no items subm itted for approval on first reading
(b) Approval of Ordinances c,1 Se co nd Reading
There were no additiona l ite ms submi tted for approval on second reading (See Agenda Item 9 -Consen t
Agenda )
(c) Resolutions and Motions
{i) Di rector Gryglew1cz presented a recommendauon from the finance and Adm 1mstra t1ve
Serv ic es Department to approve a resolut1on for a supplemental appropnat 1on to th e 2009 Budget He said
normally , we don't know dll of the expend1tures in curred ma year un ll l, gene ra1ly , two or th ree months after we
close the year We have two items for supplemental appropnat10n from 2009 on th is res olu tion The fi rst one
being from th e Storm Water Drainage Fund The source of funds ,s the retained earning s and ,ts S275 ,000 00
and the use of those funds are unan t1c1pated sys tem repairs That was the repairs that WP.re done at th e Oxford
Bridge The seco nd item es the Concre te Ut1l1ty rund and 1he sou rce of funds for that again , 1s retamed
earnings S5,000 00 and the use of that wa s the y had a proIect lhal was ong ,nall y budgeted in 20 08 but was
not able to be completed unlll 009 and that was S5 ,000 00 as well These are Enterprise Funds . lhey are not
paid from the Ge neral Fund
Mayor Woodward asked 1f there were any que;t,ans for Frank There were none
CO UN CIL MEMBER McCASLI N MO VED , AND CO UN CIL M EMBER GILLIT SECOND ED, TO APPR OVE
AGENDA ITEM 11 (c) (i)-RES OLUTION NO , 33, SERIES OF 2010 .
RESOLUTION NO 33 SER IES OF 2010
A RESOLUTION A?PP.'1V IN G A SUPf'LEMENTAL APP ROP RIATI ON Tc:',: ;i: 2009 BUDGET
• May or Woodward asked 1f th ere was any discussion There was none
Vote res ult s:
Ayes Council Members Penn . Mccaslin . Wll~on Woodward , Jeffe rson
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Olson G1ll1t
Nays None
Mot ion earned
(11) Dire ctor Gryglew1cz presented a recommendauor .;r .,e Finance and Adm1n1strat1ve
Services Department to approve a resolution for a supplemental appropna t. r make mod ifications to the Golf
Course storage fa c1 llty to accommodate a fleet of electric carts He sa id th is top ic was discussed at the Apnl 5.
2010 Study Session and Council asked staff 10 prepare this supplemental appropriation of S125 ,000 00 . It Is the
first step m going to an all electric golf cart fleet And again this Is a .. t.,e Golf Course Is an Enterp11se Fund ,
which runs from user fees an d ta xpayer dollars are not used to fund this program . It 1s from their own earnings
Mayor Wo odward asked tf t· ere were an y questions for Frank There were none .
COUNCIL MEMBER PENN MOVED , AND COUNCIL MEMBER WILSON SECONDED , T O APPROVE
AGENDA ITEM 11 (c) (ii) -RESO L UTION NO. 34 , SERIES OF 2010.
RESOLUTI ON NO 34, SE RI ES OF 20 10
A RESOLUT ION APPROVIN G A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION TO TH E 2010 GO LF COURSE
ENTE RPRISE FUND BUDGET
Mayor Woodward asked 1f there was any dIsc uss 1on
Counci l Member Wilson said I just want to say that I think this ts . of co urse a green way to go But also with the
negoti ati ons or th e Golf Course wit h Mlller•We ing arte n purchas ing the firs t 18 . Is 11 Frank ? Director Gry gle w1cz
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sa id ye s Council Member Wilson said so that's a great start to our fl eet So thank you •
Mayor Woodward asked 1f the re was an y further discussion Th ere was none
Vote re su lts :
Mo tion earn ed .
Ayes Co un cil Members Pen n, McCas hn , Wilson , Wo odward , Jefferson ,
Olson , G1l ht
Nays None
(ru ) Director Gryglew 1cz presented a recom men dation from the Fman ce and Adm1n1s trat1ve
Serv ices Dep artm ent to approve a resolution fo r a supplem ental appropnahon of Long Term Asset Reserve
Funds to fun d improveme nt s re la ted 10 th e Neighborhood Stabll1z at1on Program He said thi s topi c was discussed
ex ten si vely last week at !h e Study Sessi on and Counci l agreed to have sta ff prepare th rs supplement actuall y 11
Is a tr ans fer and supplemental appropnatIon of S750 .000 00 , which will be the source of th ose fund s, again Is
the Long Term Asset Reserve The use will be a transfer out to the Neighborhood Stabil1zat1on Fund and of
cou rse th e source m that fu nd Is thi s transfer and th e use of the fu nd Is the acquIsItIo n of tw o home s and the
rehab1h ta11on of ten homes The cost of that Is 5750 .000 00 When the houses are sold and that Is es ti mat ed to
be at th e end of next year , those fund s will be repa id to the Long Te rm Asset Reserve II you have spec1 f1c
qu es tions l believe that Jane l is back th ere In the ba ck and stle Is the expert m this program
Ma yor Woodward asked 1f th ere were any questions for Frank or Ja net There were none
CO UNCIL M EMBER Mc CASLIN MOVED , AND COUNCIL MEMBER Gl SON SEC OND ED , TO AP PROVE
AGENDA ITEM 11 (c) (ii i)-RESOLUTION NO , 35 , SERI ES OF 20 10,
RESOLUTI ON NO 35 SE RIE S OF 20 10
A RESOLUTION AP PROVING A TRANSFER AND SUPPLEMENTAL APP ROPRIATION OF LON G TERM
ASSET RESERVE FUNDS (LT AR) TO FU ND IMP ROVEME NTS RELATED TO THE FEDERAL
NEIG HB OR HOOD STABILIZATION PROGRAM (NSP1) PROJECT
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Mayor Wo odward asked 1f there was any d1scuss1on
Council Member Gi111t said I ta lked with Frank ex 1ens1ve ry last Monday and thank you Frank fa, he lping out I am
100% for the proJect I love what II does I apprecia te what 1t does for our community My concern 1s taking the
Lo g Term Asset Reserve or what we c all the LTAR Fund , fo r ~pecu!atlon 1ust concerns me I would rather us
use private funds . so 1 will be voting no Not beca use I don't like the proiecl I Just don't like where the money 1s
commg from
Counc1I Member Wilson sa id I also will be voting no I support the pro1e c1100%, but I am Just very . very nerve.JS
about using the L TAR funds
Mayor Wood\vard sa1a I would like to make a .. amendment to the reso1utron the actual resolution on the back
pare after use of funds Section 2 I would ,e to add Secuon 3, which basical ly wou1d say and th is 1s a motion
"The supplemental appropriation will re1mb , ·se from the NSP fund 10 the LTAR fund upon the sale or !he rehab
and sale of the foreclosed proper11es' That mformat1on 1s m our sta ff source , 11 isn't m the resolutton I do
understand from Dan that 1t would be coming forward m another resolut 1o n, but r would like to see 1t 1r this one
since this ,s where we are appropna tmg II Can I have a second on that motion?
Council Member O lson said could you reread 11,,
Ma yor Woodward said the supplemental appropnat,on will be re,mbursed from the NSP fund to th e L TAR fund
upon the rehab1lltat1on and sale of the foreclosed proper11es Council Member O 1~ "n said thank you
MAYO R WOODWARD MOVED , AND COUNCIL MEMBER PENN SECONDED , TO AM END AGE NDA IT EM 11
(c) (iii)· RESOLUTION NO . 35 , SERIES OF 2010 , TO ADD A SECTION 3 , TO RE AD , "THE SUPPLEMENTAL
APPROPR IATION WILL BE REIM BURSED FROM THE NSP FUNDS TO THE LTAR FUNDS UPON niE
REHABILITATION AND SALE OF THE FORECLOSED PR OPERTIE S".
Mayor Woodward asked 1r th::re was an y di scussion on the amendmer· tse lf
Cou nci l Member Penn said does this t1a ve to be looked J S a fr iendly amendment and does Bob have to accept
th is as a fnendly amendment? Mayor Woodward answe ..:d there 1s no such thing as a fne,, 11y amendmen1
Council Member Penn sa1G Just an amendment Does he have 10 accept th is as an amendment th ough? Mayor
Woodward said doe:, who? Council Member Penn said does Bob have to accept this as an amendr:ie nt? City
Attorney Bro1zman said the Mayo~ 1s actually asking you 10 vo te Mayor We ,1ward said we are vo ting on
amending Counc:! Member Jefferson said amending th e language Mayor Woo dward said nght then we will
com back 10 the ongmal Councrl Member Penn said thank yo u Council Member G1tht said so we are votin g 011
th"" an1endment I Coun cil M, ·•nb e1 JeHt:r~or S.dhJ on Jim·s amendment lo Sect1 C" 3 Mayor Wf"li\l:1warr1 c;;:wi \'.,
are vot1m;1 on Jus t amandmg the amendment
Vo te res ults :
Motion earned
Ayes Coun:,I Mem e·s Pern Mccaslin W1 1son Woodward .J efferson
Olson G 1lht
Nays None
Mayor Woodward said so now we are going back to the ongmal motion
Council Memoe; Jefferson sa id I guess I would 11w1 te a httle more commen l on from Council Member Rick and
Council Mernoer Wilson Iler 1: Where wculd you pre fer to sec th e fu ndin g? W ould you also prefer to c;e 1t
privately funoeU7
Council Member W ilson said yes I am Just very uncomforta bl e takmg 1t fro m the L TAR funds Like I said last
week . I am wa1tmg for that big project tn th e sky that this was supposed to be used for And it's not that I don t
suppor1 the program i thtnk II 1s a won derf ul program I am JUS l nervous from takmg from our savmgs
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Mayor Woodwa rd said and Just for clan ficat1on Jill , when you sa id priva te fund s, do you mean pnvate sector? Is
thal what you meant Rick? Council Member Gilli t sa id I do as well
Council Member Jefferson said like I said , I would ask Frank to comment again on the accounting d1fflcult1es with
the pnvate . I remember there being some issues , some accounting JSsues , particular to gettmg outside financing
Director Gryglewicz replied we don 't actually have an accounting sys tem that acco unts for this so ,rs all done all
of these are done manually . Especially wit h ou r staff .. .we had one staff cu lba ck so we would have to spread that
work out amongst a shoner sta ffing. even th an we had before . And it is a very complicated .. you know ,
rep ayme nts of lo ans can be very complica te d so that was Ju st , that was pan of !h e piece of th is ,s to do It that
way
Council Member Jeffers on said so how much staff time would that actuall y requ1r~. Is there any way to quantify
thal at al l or give me som e son of ba llpark on how d;fficu lt that is go,ng to be? Director Gryglew,cz replied I would
have lo actua ll y go ba ck and ask the person that was doing ,t
Counci l Member Olson sai d who 1s no long er work ing !or the Ci ty ? Dtre ctor Gryglew1cz said he wa s doing ti He
left the City It is being filled by someone else , but they've taken on add11ional duties because we didn 't actually
hire another person m the ... so we have one less accountant essentially
Council Member Olson said may I alsc, as k a question ? Rega rding the past tra ck record wit h the re-s ta bll1zatton
proJ ects that have been done , can you ex pla in a bit about some of the success or what's happt:ned wi th the past
one s that yo,J've done and how lhJ t's worked out?
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Director Gryglewi cz answered I am gomg to have ,lanet come up , be cause she Is far more knowledgeable m thi s •
are a tha n I am .
t-ious1ng Fi nance Specialist Gnmmett sai d I didn't quite hear you m the back What was your questi on?
Co uncil Memb er Olson s<1 ld I was as kin g about tile past projec ts that v.e ha ve funded and that the City has
undertak en with th is sama kmd or neighborhood stab1hzat1011 , and how those have worked , m terms of thinking
about our pa st tra ck rei..:ord or being ab le to se ll these and rei-,!~nish the fundmg
Ms Gnmmett replied well , the two s1m1 lar proJec ts that I suppose ye..'.!.::::~!: use ,~,.c ompari so n.was on e that
Council had self -funded back m the 90 's That was money that came out of anothe r reserve account , two
separat e S500 ,000 .00 of appropna t,on was do ne , for a Iota! of one million . That pa n,cu lar proIect , at l he lime
was known as Pro1ect BUILD That pan,cu lar pro gram , 1f I am go,ng from my memory nght , purchase d 32
ho uses either dilapidated or a lot or them we re known as the basement houses We took out a lot of those Alley
no us&s That type of thmg where th ey were torn down rebuilt with brand new cons tr uc tion that was con tracted
out and then sold md1v1 dual ly The intended wh en It was f1rs1 approved , the intended use was that !hat was
fu nd s that wo ul d not be reimbursed ba ck to the City , that that was Just an Investmenl that Council was making
But 1n the end , approxi mately five to s1x years later when th e prog ram ended , about 1997 I beheve , th e fun d~ had
a pos1fr1e balan ce there v. as no mo ney lost all of the properti es were sold , and to my knowledg e. 1t was a very
success ful program 11 Na s also sold s1m1lar to th 1s particular prog ra m, as an ow ner /occupied , requmng
occupa ncy , that typr; Jf thing So , 111s very similar The only other program th at we have that might in volve the
acqu1 sItIo n of rchat s 1s through the reh ab loan program itself , where we ar e a seco nd mortgage or third
mo rtgage , a Junio r IIen holuer on 11 First mortgage goes mto forec lo sure and we will , up on each md1v1dua l
dec1s1on . ma y dec1<.le to redeem out. 1f 11 makes sense 10 do th at And th ose particular homes probabl y through
2005 thro ugh 2007 , I think we acquired ab out six properties Those propen ,e s were all fully supponed by Fund
46 No pa n,cular fund s were used from the General Fund , the L TAR , or any oth er reserve funds That Fu nd 46 ,s
dedi cated to the rehab loan program Those particula r homes did have some ex tens ive renab done There was a
li ttle bi t. maybe 1f you want to call It a loss that we didn 't reco ve r all of our funds up on sale , b11t th e homes were •
still sold as owner occupied Any pan ,c ular loss or shonages was Iu sl abso rbed by Fund 46
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Council Member Mccaslin said 11 has been stated lhal lh 1s by doing lhe LTAR Fund th is will sav e between
S20.0C0 000 and S25,000 00 1n financing costs Is that correct? To the City? Ms Gnmmell said yes, based on
our est1ma t1ons of what 1t would cost to borrow Cou ncil Member McCa shn said I do feel that mvest1ng 1n single
housing that's been 1n our Ci ty 1s a long term assessment to Englewood , so I definitely reel good with th is
Mayor Woodward said I would agree with Bob I will be vo tmg for th is This 1s iust for some clanf1cat1on
too th at Ne1gl:oorhood Stabilization Program was passed by Cong ress in July 2008 and signed by President
Bush It prov,, ·,ed for community c1ttes to get grant money to get foreclosures purchase foreclosu res , rehab them
and make t~u=m ava ilable .. what we wanted to do was weathenze them an d upgrade our housing stock, and make
them available for owner occupied residences c1 t1zens Th e particular gra nt th at we got was 1 2 mlll 1on dollars
We were not w hat was called an Entitlement City, which for this program was for a ci ty of 35,000 or more So we
had to go through the County . which had transferred or assigned all of the ir funds to the Stat e of Colorado Joe
and I did talk w ith the comm1ss 1oners . a!. well as staff, talked with staff and talked with the comm1ss1 oners We
did get awarded the n fro m th e Sta te on l h1s project R1g h1 now, I think we are probably the model of the st ate for
wh at we are doing and I think that nas a lot 10 do with certain ly with Janet and with Haro ld Stitt Again , as Bob
said th is 1s LTAR Fund , 1n my m ind , 1s for the benefit and the investment 1n the Ci ty, long term assets of th e Ci ty .
Our housing stock and 1f ,,·~ can get hou sing stock that 1s for fam ilies and espectally families w11h children an d that
sort of thing . weatherized ar.1 1n very good condition . that ts a great investment , I th ink I have confidence 1n th.s
spec ulation and m the real esta:~ marke t .. not 1n the next couple of months not next few months .. bu t I think
these houses will sell, since we C,'n only sell thr:m at wha t we purchased th em for plus th e cos ts tha t we p•J t m
them . So, I thi nk 11's someth ing Iha, I support
Council Member Penn sa id I too suppon 1f11,; and I thin k thi s 1s a great th ing for th e Ctty" i::::ng lewood to nu mber
one upgrade ten houses, but also what efft.r:t 1t has on the oth er houses that are around :h ese houses Almost
constantly , w hen you do an upgrade, peo ple aroun d you als o do oth er upg rades themselves Like others I wmce
a li ttl e bit at the Long Term Asset Fund but I think this 1s a great tt"-,ng that we can do without pa ying for interest
and also without utih zmg our people to figu re out how to m1plemen t thi s I Just think 1t 1s a great id ea for us to get
our City going and a gcJd opportunity for us tC' mvest in our Ctt y
Cou ncil Member G1ll1t said 1ust a final comment from me Either wa y , this p ro1ect 1s gomg to get done whether we
use LT AR fu nd or whether we use private fund Mayor Wood ward said pnvme ftnanc1ng Council Member Gllht
said pn va1e financi ng , excuse me I support the proJecl 100% I thmk Jim does as well I guess I ha ve a problem
dealing wi th gam bling 11 fee ls like a gamble w1lh the City's money . wh at Jill says There's still someth mg
ou t there th is Cny has great his tory of gett ing these grea t deals and having 1h e finan ce to get them I agree with
Jill I believe tha t's tr ue that the LT AR Funds should be 1f we did for pnv ate f1nancmg 1t proba bly would sull get
done We are not saying , you know I Just we're leveraging wit h somebody else's money or we're leveraging
with our own mon ey on th,s I prefer to leverage wi th somebody else's
Cou ncil Member Jefferson said I think Rick t111 ngh t 0111 1 w,th what Ilic 1ca1 issue here 1s the level of nsk th at is
appropriate for LTAR Funds H 1s a d1 Hi cul l question because 11 seems so u ndefined For me I am kmd of
wresthrg with that I guess I would mv1te some comme nts on the level of nsk You know m ,;ome funds that are
supposed to stay very liquid you know those types of things can only be inve~ted 111 . you know, what we consider
nsk free type of secunues like ta x or ''m sorry like Treasury Bonds and things of th at nature And so m my
mmd , I have dtfftculty defmmg whether LTAR falls unoer tha t category reall y nsk free money or 1t th :s ,s
some.hrng that other m embers of Council feel free 10 specu late w ith s11g hlly Certamty thal nsk-reward paradigm
1s al\<\ ays be evaluoted and I am 1ust wondering if that 1n everyone else's rmnd 1s that appropnatp? Because 1f
so. I feel comfortable w ith this rrsk-reward pararl1 gm it's Just you kn ow 1s that type of evaluation approonate
giv en that type of fund ing ?
Mayo, Woodward sat d my answer wou ld be . I g1 1ess that a we are 1nves 11n g m housing stock home-t,·"1 ned
w1t h1n our City If 11 doesn't sell immediate ly we a wn 11 we own 1t Coun ct l Member Jefferson satd 11 will ue a
secured in terest M ayor Woodward said 11 isn't leveraged It isn't mortgaged It isn 't all of th e sudden 1f for some
reason , worst case worst case obsolu te worst case I think the loan was good for two yea rs. or something hke
that Janet doesn 't come to us and say th e bar~ 1: callmg th e loan and we hadr't sold any thing now That's really
the worst case We would possibly be looki ng at th e LTAR Fund at that 11me and have staff $25,000 00 at that
pom t of ta xpayer money I have more confidence 1n th e rea l estat e market than that and tn th e Englewood market
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and 1n the work that Community Development has done 1n the houses ... w,t h th ese houses in the past So , I think
It 1s def'mte1y someth1ri~ that we would do As far as the City of Englewood , who are we to . m a se nse , we are
le nding from one hand to the other hand Well , we have got an AA bond rating . Top bond ra ting Is AAA
That's I think , is pretty str ong .
Ma yor Woodward sa 1c! are there other comments ?
Coun cil Member Wilson said I Just want to sa y that, In no way , am I saying that staff does not do a goc J
J0 b cann o• ~et this proiecl done I think ii w ill be su ccessful I am JUS I uncomfortable with the L TAR Fund and
since we. 1n thts instance , ha ve anothe r means of financing it , that would be the way that I would rather go
Cou ,,c:I .,,ember Olson said I have thought about this through this la st week . looking al the LTAR Fund , because I
wasn't as familiar, being new, but ,t. as I read the LTAR Fund , I th ink, it allows itself to do exactly what we are
do ing w ith th is . And it saves us S2 0,000.00 to S2 5,000 000 , which ,snot a sma ll amount II also allows us to
extend beyond one year, 1f necessary , for th e re pa yment sche du le Is that nght ? So , it's not two , it's .. we 're set at
one It will beret at one year Ms Grim mett said co rre ct. Co uncil Mem ber Olson said okay , I wanted to make
su re tha t was clear And it wouldn 't reduce th e Gene ral Funds , unreserved and undes ignated fund balan ce
either , whic h is wh at we want to keep stable So , I thmk because of that , and be ca use it's pnvat e fi nar'c,ng , it's
not priva te funds . Those two are reall y quite differe nt It ,snot as 1f somr;one is givin g us some mone y. We own
It. So , from my pe rspect ive , 1t is a good use I: JUmpstart s our own nei~nb orho ods , m places tha t rea ll y need 11 It
serves a population , which does not get served well .. often It gets left out of the pic tu re when we are talki ng
abou t mclu s1 on. And so for that reas on, I would really .. I'd hk e to see us do this and save the money an d make
the .I don't th ink th e nsk Is as huge as u would have bee n perh aps a yea r ago In trying to resell these at th is
po,nl So.
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Council Mem ber Jefferson said I generally agree. I think the nsk 1s generally ,n hquid,ty, probably more th an •
anything And that being sai d, you know, I guess I generally agree w ith th e Maver here The fact that it's a rea l
prope rt y, w1th1 n our own co mmum ty , mak es me feel comfortable enough to move forward with 11 , personally
Ma yor Woodward asked 1f there were any other commen ts The re were no ne
Council Member G1lht said . ca ll th e question
Vote resu lt s on motio n to app ro ve Resoluti on No. 351 Se rie s of 2010 as amen ded:
Ayes Cou ncil Members Penn . Mccaslin . Woodward , JP.ff erso n , Olson .
Nays Council Members Wilson , Gill,!
Motion earned
(1v ) Director Fonda presented a recom me nda t1on from th e U!11it1 es Departmen t to r,ppr ove, t,y
mollon , a con trac t for engmeen ng and const~uc tI on mana gemen t services Staff recommends awarding the
co ntract 10 r.amp Dresser & McKee In the amou nt or $45 3 264 He said on the Water Ullh t1es side new federal
re gulahons are req umng that we go 10 a higher level of removal of cryptospond1um and g1ard1a Our current plant
can't meel that leve l Although we've never had an outr>reak , we do have 11 m our source water We are r.:?q u1red
10 have th is sy st em operat ,onat by Octobe1 1, 20 13 T1 .,s ,v,11 be a very d1ff1 c uI1 !111ng to install , because we don't
have land area , we'll have to Ircorpora te II into the curre nt operations \•1/e this ,s to approve the engineering
contract We selected thee~ ,;.neer after 1rnerv1ewmg th re e engmeenng groups that we selected out of a numbe r
that applied We felt that Camp Dres s•a r and llsKee and their gro, p had the iost knowledge ,n this area They
have a local , nationally re co gnized , ex pert in u11ra •v1o let flltrat10n d1smfect1 on An d th ey are a nationa l fir m that
has done a number of these plant s Th6 way this proj ect will procee d, is tha t we will 1nit 1ally have th e·n set up a
pilot testing sys tem and we wi ll go m and hav e seve ra l manufacturers put their equi pm ent ,n , on a pil ot bast s We
wlll gather data there and the n we will ulllmate ly select the ultra •v1olet d1s 1nfect1on equipment It 1s important to do
that before we start the design because we don 't wa nt to ha ve to do several de sig ns for several different
equipmen t manufacturers W e wou ld then . by bid . acq uire the equipment for delivery after the plant 1s built This •
co ntract covers the en gineering work th at wi ll be done for selling up th e p,101 wo rk for doing the design and then
for doing the construc ti on management and observation as 11 goes 1n We will also look at the pozs1 b1llt y of doing
a small amount of sohen,ng at the plan t, although we may not proceed with that That's dependent upon how
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successful we are in working with Denver, but we want to al least take a cursory look al potential for softeninQ at
the plant, if we aren't successful and o ur waler hardness problems continue . We have been solving them so far
with blending from our various ditches . So . al th is point the contract is a total of $453 ,264 .00. That's $20 ,500 .00
for th, softening investigation, $432 ,764 .00 for doing all of tt,e engineering work and construction management.
Each piece of the project will proceed under lhal cap, but the re may be modification s if we find something
une ,pecl ed as Wf: go through . This is a cost plus contract. where we only pay them for what they bill us for the ir
iime, wi th i.h~t Af. an upper limit.
Mayor Woodward asked If the re were questions.
Mayor Woodward asked can you tell us what l hal cryplo is, one more lime. Just...can you pronounce 11?
Director Fonda replied you don't want lo get it. II is a cyst, so ii is resistant to chlorine. We take it out, typically, in
the settling process, but that doesn'; provide as much removal as the federal people now want to establish
nationwide. We've never had an outbreak that has been traced to our water. But if you get it, it is really bad . The
ultra -violet is the most effective wa y .. .lt absolutely kills it
Council member Olson sai d you are very thorough . Thank you .
Council Member Penn sa id thank you Stu .
Mayor Woodward said and th is comes from the Ente,prise Fund . It is not General Fund dollars . Director Fonda
said yes it does. It comes fro m the Wat er Fund . When we go to construction , we will then be looking at financing
that construction package .
COUNCIL MEMBER WILSON MOVED, AND COUNCIL MEMBER GILLIT SECONDED , TO APPROVE
AGENDA ITEM 11 (c ) (Iv) -A CONTRACT WITH CAMP DRESSER & MCKEE, FOR ENGINEERING AND
CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT SERVICES , IN THE AMOUNT OF $453 ,264 .
Mayor Woodward asked If there was discussion .
Mayor Woodward said I th ink th is is the result of ... as we upgrade our plant, which NBS upgraded no t too man t
years ago, and with great a nount of impro·1emenl in the water quality and taste and stuff, and then here comes
new regulations down frorT1 the federal governme nt or the EPA and now we are looking at ultra•v iolet , which is a
whole other level highe' Director Fonda said th is is a good protection and it n ,ight also help with any rema ining
taste and odor, because we wilt use a lot less chlorine .
Ma yor Woodward asked if them were any other comments or discussion . The re were no ne.
Vote results :
Motion carried
Ayes : Council Me mbers Penn , Mccaslin, Wilson , Woodward Jefferson ,
Olson , Gillit
Na ys : None
12 . Ge neral Discussion
(a ) Mayo ~s Choice
(i j Mayor Woodward said th e Epic Spring Clean-up was on Saturday, in partnership with
South Suburban Parks and Recreation, the City of Littleton , the City of Sheridan and Englewood held at Pirate's
Cove for the benefit of lnterFaith Commun ity Services and ARC . It was the very first one. I th il,k maybe AR::: and
lnlerFalth had hoped for a little better turnout or bigger turnout. Bui I th ink next year ... and we plan on doing this
[!)Ore than once ... wilh a little bit more time to organize and the opportunity to gel ii into th ings like th e Citizen and
out into the community , I th ink that'll work . Although , ii was a successful event
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(11 ) Mayor Woodward said I also would li ke to announce that J1mano 's on Broadway , 1s no w
open as of toda y They had a soft opening and at one point I heard they had 375 people going through there
So . J1mano's Pizza Chicago style deep dish 1s now open
(111) Mayo r Woodward said I also wan: to mention that the Governor's office , the Energy
Offi ce the rebate program on appliances , furnaces hot water heaters , those types of things , started today You
can go onhne and reserve a spot on thai rebate 11st 1f you were to buy a new energy star type of appl1dnce o:
some piece of equipment that me t the standards That would be at WW\".' re ch arge col orad o com
(1v) Mayor Wocdward said I'd like to mention to Co uncil and to the public the South Platte
We rking Grou p Is rol Ing a mee ting on Apnl 28th at 8 o'c lock In the morning , at the L1Uleton City Center, Counci l
Chambers 2255 1 Vest Berry Avenue In Littleton . It Is to Il Is for elected offi cials and for tr e pubh< at large to
d1~cuss the fut u. d1rectton of the South Platte River corridor and the South Platte V.'ork1ng G.oup , which w1II
com~rete its 1nit •al work and the GOCO (Greater Outdoc.rs Colo rado ) Legacy r.r;i nt tha t we received three years
ag o A t th e t1m r, 11 was one of the largest legacy '."'ants It was five and a quarter m1lhon dollars for 1mprovement
along ,he Pl alte River thr0l1gh Ara pah oe Co unt y vu, th is Is a mee tin g for mput from cIuze ns and elec1ed officials
from 8 a m with adjournment at 9 30 and then th e Soulh Platte Working 3roup will meet 1mmed1ately aft~r that
~ v) Ma yor Woodward satd I do want to menuon Englewood Unleashed wtll have their annual
Ch1h Coo k•Off and their even t where the y se ll different items and give educational stuff on dogs and off.leas h I
th ink the South Plane Humane Society will be there with some probab ly with some dogs and ca ts to take a look
at At the Malley Center, th :s Sa turday April 24 th They usua lly have quite a selection of ch ill there to taste
and II has been my pleasure to be a Judge for a nu mber of years Hopefully i'm tho , ag,In this year
(vI ) Ma yor Woodward said I do want to JUSt mention the mclusIve cItIes part that peopl e hav e
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brou ght up ton1gh1 As an example at the Study Se ss ion whe n we di scu ss ed tt1I s l want to cl ari fy first th e •
National Lea gu e of C1 t1es Is not a gove rnmenta l ag enc y It Is not a part of the governm ent It Is ba sica lly a
lo bb ying group fo r cItIes . to wn s and villages th roughou t th e United States And they lob by for the benefit of cIt1 es
A ma1 or part of the author of whal you saw 1f you did rea d ~ stuff on the Nationa l League of C1t1e s wa s that the
then ma yor of Lakewood, Steve Ber kh olde r Lakewoo d, if yo·J go o n the ir webs l!~ and take a look at mclus1ve
cI tIf·s . and what their board 1s, yo u will see wh at th ey have do ne th ere They have taken a number of their
d1 ff1 •ren1 bo ards and co mm Iss1 ons, exclu ding thing~ hke Planning and Zoning , or Board of Appeals , or Liquor
LIce11s1ng or so me other boards , but other boards they hav e bro ugt:t In And they have mad e them into
su'J comm .tees with the chair bemg on a different or an other board that answers and discusses directly wit h Ci ty
Cou nci l on a monthl y ba sis, whe!l .l gomg on That ch air th ose nm c ch ai rs, I believe 1t Is , tmng II back to
tho se Pa rks and Recreation or other groups of volunt eers wIt hIn th e Cit y so ev ery body Is inform ed and
evc I ybo dy Is work1119 mge ther as r1 larger gr0up 1 would en cou rage you 10 take a look at Lakewood I know Gary
and I will be out the re tom orr ow rr ·1et Ing on ~ome other IIer·s but meetinq w1(h one of !he st;lff p~ople that was m
c:1arg\:: of thdl which Is their Oe;-, C11y Mer ager So, we have that c:ornIng up at anoth er Study Sess1rv• ~,
!-Orne point m the future wiien v,e do have r";ore 1nfc "nation an.J are able to answer sl"rne of the quec-r ,a 1
were brou ght JP at Olir hst meeting
vu) Mayor Wood.vr,rrJ said to B~v agam I wJuld hke to soy that the Nancy Pelerson·s th ,
nwards tllat were ,e .e,vcd by the Cit y wh en Nancy Peterson was 111 charge. are at the Police Dep artm ent Safe;_.
Services Build ing I kno w. in Seo te 111be· I •11mk I took pictures of thPm They are-ny'i t as you walk In the first set
of doors. uirectly to yoU1 left Tr~y are there I emailed them to he r sr she couid see th e111 Un les s th ey have
come down an d ma ybe Gary knows 1f they have come down lhey're nght lhere So they are that's wh ere they
are at
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Council Member Penn
Ile saIrl thanks Mayor It must be ge tti ng close to the end of the semester because l see .:ill of these stu dents
and I'm sure thev are from govern n Ien t cla sses Thank you for co ming out and lis tening to u& and be in g a pa,t of
our City Co~ncil So get tho se las t mon th s do ne with your cny ~mvernment classes
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2. He said thn Mayor men tioned J1man o's opening I think for me , the most 1m porta r1L .r 1111g one of the 1mporta t
thi ngs .. yes , 1,ey are a new busine ss and I th ink the y'll do a tremendous Job , but they are a great display for our
Cata ly st Fun r,. They did their sign with the Cata lyst Fund an d they also did thei r seating w1lh the Catalyst Fund
So I thmk !:,at's a good way to see what the Catalyst Fund can d~ for businesses here in Eng lewood
3 He sa id I di d have the opportunity ... l we nt down to Pirate 's Cove on Sa tu rday morning and ,twas really a mce
day cut . And I know that the y probably were kind of not excited about what we brought in. but I think when I left,
we had well ovar 40 boxes of cloth ing and qu te a few barrels of food And for me, anytime you can take m food
and help people out , I thin k that's a great time It will grow as we go , so I think it was another good thing that we
coord inated with L1ttleton , with the City of Sheridan and do that
•' He said as far as the Chili Cook-Off, I think , probab ly the most important. other than getting a lot of people
there, 1s to find out what Mayor Woodwa rd Is going to put in hi s concoction that he takes home for the rest of the
,:ay . I t111n k he puts everyth ing In, like a smorgasbord ol chill 's in one liltle bowl I do not know how he eats that
so good lu ck with that. Thank you
Mayor Woodward said th ank you
(u) Council Member Wilson
1 She said yeah , I have a Jew th ings One Is that I was al Pirate's Cove also on Saturd ay I was num ber two . so
it's not like they had a lot whe n I came but I was go ing to work that da y so I got there early .
2 She said the other th ing I was al I was at Ch1pot1e on Friday night to support Bishop Sc hool I hope that th ey
did well f1om that Chipotl e was giving 50% of anyone who bought a meal between 4.30 and I believe 7 00 or
7 30. th ey would give hall of the mone y to Bishop School So I hope that that was successful
Council Member McCasl 1n said I would like to thank everyone wh o did participate 1n that thank you so much
3 She sa,d the other thing 1s that there will be 3 1 chit, s at the Chili Cook-Off, I heard , so you may need a bigger
uow l
4 She said there are a couple of th ings tha t one Is 1t was brought to my atten tion by a c1tIzen that Craig
Walker , who won the Pulitz er for photography , Is an Englewood resident He llves 1n 01stnct 4 Someone from
Dis trict 4 called me and hroug ht up that he had won this and th at he was from Englew ood and also goes to the
dog park Council Member Jefferson said he ts wel ·mown at the dog park . They even put up a makeshift mural
for him the n~1g hbors there 11 Is really cute Congratula tions Cou ,1c1I Mem ber Wilson said so an yway , 1ust to
tell you Denver Post photographer Craig r Walker has be an awarded the Pulitzer Prize or ph otography He
featured his award was feature photography and the Pulitzer 1s the most preslI g1ous aw?rd For 27 months ,
Walker photographed Ian F1sher as he v .. ent from high school gradua te to recruit to soldier It Is the series "Ian
Fisher Amencan Sol di er" So talking to the Mayor and wh en I spoke with this c1tIzen he wanted some
recogniuon , or if we could do something Jar Mr Wa lke r And the Cny 1s g01ng lo pul together, with the Mayor a
letter congratulating him on his accomplishment and that will be mailed to him , I believe , next week I don 't know
1f we need a consensus or Just or what
Council Member McCas hn asked 1s there anywa y we co uld pre.5ent 1t In person I thmk th at would be kind of coo l
Instead of 1ust sen ding hi m a le tt er, I mean 1s there anyway that we cou ld 1nv1te him? Mayor Woodward replie d
we could 1nvI te htm Council Mem ber Olson said It 1s not everyday that you wm a ?u l1tzer Pn ze and especi all y the
top1 c area was so Council Member McCashn sa id right that Is a huge accompl1shmen t absolu tely Mayor
Woodwa rd said for th e Denve r Post , mall of the years th at 11 has been around , this Is what.. their sixth Pulitzer
Prize Council Member Wilson said I really appreciate the cItIzen who brought this fof'V,Jard , because I didn 't know
he was an Englewoud c1t1zen I don 't know what we can do to Leigh Ann has lhe mformat1on City Man ager
Sears said Leigh Ann ha s 11 Wf ca n mv1le h1m or have some typ e of ceremo ny and see 1f th ere Is some
recognIllon we 'll follow up wi th th at Council Member Wilson sard tha nk you
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5 !Clerks Note Th is was listed on the Agen da as Item 12 (b) (11))
CO UN CIL MEMBER WILS ON MOVED. AND COU NCIL MEMBER OLSON SE CONDED , TO APPROVE
COUNCIL BILL NO . 9.
CO UN CI L BIL L NO 9. INTRODUCED BY CO UN CIL MEMBER WIL SO N
A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE EXTE NDING AN EXISTI NG TEMPORARY SUSPENSION OR MORATORIUM ON
THE ESTABLISHMENT OF NEW MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISP~.NSING AND GROW ING USES FOR A PERIOD
OF SIX MONT' IS
~.i1ayor Woodward asked 1f there wa s any ci1scuss 1on or comments .
Co un cil Member Olson said I atte nd ed a forum that was done 1n the Ci ty of Den ver but put on for regiona l folks
And both Romer and our Attorney General for the Sl ale talked about th,s w,th a few other people as well And I
spoke with them later and the y said 11 was very wise that Eng lewood was waItIng , u,:,r.ause th ey hoped that 1vh at
they came down with in the long run , was much more spec ific and would allow for us to not wa ::it c u..;:-t in-.~ on
so me items that are go ing to be decided by th e State . I really I am glad 1\'t? are doing th is It Is un fortunat e 111s
taking so lon g But I would rath er not do work and then have 11 undone by a State ruhng and then have to go back
and revIs1 t it again
Mayor w,,odward sard I would JUS I like to ment ion this did com e out or th e Ap propna!l ons Comm11tee on the 16th
of April rhe y ha ve 5 pages of recommendauons and it's going on to the Ho use now It did pass th e
Appropnat,ons ... 11 to 2 with th e changes It ha d passed Jud1 c1a l pnor to that I believe I was 7 to 4 So , ,twill
go th e House and then once 11 has bee n \O the House 11 bounces back over to the Senat e So . I thmk 11 1s prudent
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Co un cil Mem ber Jefferson satd th e t1m ellne that we have In pl ace work ing with P & Z, and whatn ot. to get our
regula tions m pla ce sho uld be done ahe ad of this six mon th moratonum corre ct? Ma yo r Woodward said yes
May or Woodward said I thmk Joe you were absent th at night when we discussed this an d one of th e ques ti ons
was 1f we get thi s all taken care of can we Iust end th e mora tori um as soon as this tak es place co ncurren t?
And . obv io usly . the answer wa s yes from Dan So . that Is wha t we are look ing at Coun ci l Mem ber Jefferson
sai d exce llent
Council Member Olson said and this obviousl y should be don e by May so we w11I have tr .. ~ su mmer to work on ,t
So , we sho uld be done earher Council Member Jefferson said I hope so Ma yor Wo odward said well we two
readings and 30 days after th at Council Member Olson said un less they ex tend the ir session
Mayor Woodward asked 1f there were any 0Iher comments There were none
Vote re sults :
Mo I1on carried
Ayes Council Members Penn Mccasli n Wilson WoodwJrd Jefferson
Olson Gtlltt
Nay s None
6 She said I also want to thank eve ryo ne for coming and spe2k1ng on how th ey felt I have se nt ou t to differe nt
people In !h e City 1nfo rmat1on on inclusive c,lles They read th e 1nforma11on and felt that 11 was a posI tIve thmg
No, they did not wan t to spend a lo t of money on n w programs , but th ey fell th at reading 11 th e'! we coul d
include some of the pro grams we already have and bring lha l to gether I always think I don 'I look at
everything I don't look at the NaI1onal Lea gue of Gilles to be the end all I Iust lhm k that lhey are helpful ,n what •
they give and th ey support us I alsu thm k City of Service sounds like a great , great program and ag , people
don t have to get involved So . 11 Is Just another mech anism to help
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1 He said I nave a couple th ings tonight Kent Plac e I haven t heard anytti ;n g whats going a, there 1n
awhile I had a constI 1uent ask me which I d1dn t and they knew I was coming to Council so I got hese
questions Are the owners of that propeny are tney get 1ng that propeny tax free nght now? Mayor Woodward
sard not that I am aware of Council Member G1ll 1t said do we know? Is there a ta). exemption? City Manager
Sears I can only and 'Tiaybe Alan c~n answer I can Just tell you that 11 1s a private company Continuum
Investment Company Council r ... 1ember G1ll1 t ~aid we haven't. offered them a ta). ? The response was
1naud1ble Council Member Gilhl sa id do we have an y idea when lhey will come up w1lh another plan ? C11y
Manager Sears said Al an can respond Council Member Mccaslin said when the economy gets better Counctl
Member Olson said as soon as pe ople can bu y a half a m 1111o n dollar or more condo
Director Wh 11e said I am not aware of an y scnedule they have for bnng1ng anyth in g fol'\vard tu the City
Council Member G1lll t said they are not getting that tax free . so tllat was the concern
Mayor Wooaward said . 1n fac t. w en th e Denver Seminary owned 1t. th e only tax revenue that the City of
Eng lewood received was the sales ta x from 1he bol.~k store So s1t1Ing there as vacant land we re ceive more
revenue than
2 He said the second thmg the Denve r Post they did a great article on golf carts They interviewed the people
that I told you about I think the y even Jim did you ha"e a comment did they talk to you? Mayor Woodward
said they 1alked to me. I haven t read Thursdays paper yet Council Member G1lhl said my folks were greatly
app:ecIatIve of that that the y were heard I st:11 t"lmk 11 would be a great idea
3 He said the last thin g bikes 1n Bellevrew Park ! had a neighbor come and say that that I guess some folk s
are speed b1kmg throug the park to get to the tra il And I guess sorn~ people have been pushed off the
path because these bikers come In paths Is tha : ,1 walking path? I dor 't even know 1s u a b1k1ng path ? I
th ought 11 was like a Jogg ing or wa lking path Can we fmd out bec ause Mayor Woodward said which path ?
Are you talking about the path that Council Membe~ Gllht said you know the path that goes around where the
tra m runs? It goes fr om the bal l fiel d II comes ar ou nd in back of the houses !hen It goes up to th e dog parY
You keep gmng and 11 qoes to the bike trail Mayor Wood\-.ard so1d ck Tha t Council Member G1tl1t said I
guess we have bikers like zoommg up through there and then heading cu l towards where :he Targets at going
underneath Belleview Mayor Woodward said that Is Sou th Sl,burban Foundauon. South Suburban and that Is a
bike tr ail pedestrian train what 11 Isn t 1s a motori:ed trai l And so . we can make th at comment In fact that Is a
co ,ment that we can make on th e 28 th
Covnc1I Member G1ll1t said the residents have sa1c that the } don t feel the bikers understand thal people have th e
rig ht to walk on the1e
Ma :or 1/Vooa :,;,rd s;::ud than~ ;ou
11v 1 Council Member Olson
1 She said was at the Swedish Medical D1stnct rneettngs the other mghl .nd I was quite unpressed w1u1 th e
wa} m which the Communi ty Development Office oroke t111ngs into groups and had very different perspectives
lror-, each and lfled to pull that together There Is one mOie mertmg Next Wednesday 111ght? Tuesday nigh!
yes you ire right 111s Tuesday nighl That 1s here In the Commumty Room al 6 30 And they went over the y
weni to 'i ~(" :;r longer even trying to resolve Area 5 ano get some more input So I am not sure exactly what you
heard , bu : 'Jf cou rse everybody s got different opinions whenever they go 10 a meetmg like that What I found
IncredIbly help ful was lO :.cc 30 to 40 people from my District there really engaged m 1rying to figure out thei r
own needs ana desires for zoning m that ama and for 1uture development It was very fun and important I thmk
for the C1ty to engage citizens In '_hat way So. conie 1' you want I think 111s open to everybody and 11 was Just
great to see the areas that had t1te1r own homes and renta l~. and businesses th ere and really mterac1mg with one
another And hearing each oth 1H s differences of opI ,ans ·especlmg them and trying to figure out how to
accommodate for those I th o·Jght that was what was Si:'1 wonderful about II It was a very posI tIve eYpenence
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2. [Clerk's Note : This was li sted on the Agenda as item 12 (b) (i).J
She sa id I would like to bring forth the resolution that everybody is wa itin g for ... a resolution announcing a
declaration of service . She sa id let me read it, just so that those of you who rr.ay not have ever seen th is, can
hear it It is "A RESOLUTION ANNOUNCING A DECLARATION OF SERVICE : WHEREAS , America has a
proud tradition of service and volunteerism tha , dates back to the colo11 ial era and today can be foue d in
commun ities ac ros s the fifty states ; and WHEREAS , the bipartisan Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act.
signed into law by Pres ident Barack Obama on April 21 . 2009 bu ilds on th is trad ition by encourag ing all
Americans to serve their communities in new ways ; and WHEREAS , cities , home to many of the nation 's most
persistent challe nges , are positioned to bring new leadersh ip, facilitation , and innovation to the service movemen t
an d WHEREAS , the curre nt need for public-spirited residents to help address increased hardsh ip resulting from
the global financial and hous ing crises is clear, and WHEREAS , service enriches the lives of Americans Jf all
ages , and each new generation of young Americans must be engaged in tackl ing emerging challenges ; NOW
THEREFORE . we resolve to · •ork together to focus the energ ies of our citizens on the need for service and will
support efforts to increase service opportuniti~s in Eng lewood". That is the resolution and I would like to put that
forth , Mayer , tonight for us to vote on .
COUNC IL MEMBER OLSON MOVED , AND COUN CIL MEMBER PENN SEC ONDED , TO APPROVE A
RESOLU TI ON ANN OU NCING A DE CL AR ATI ON OF SERVIC E.
Mayor Woodward asked if there was any discuss ion .
Council Member Wilson said I th ink , you know , because times change , that it is important that we renew these
different services ... declara tion of service . Becaus e like it says ... since colon ial days people have been
vc Jnlee ri ng , but there 's new and differe nt ways that it can help . And I think it is important to recognize those and
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Council Member Penn sa id I see a couple of things . Number one , I see the ab ili ty of peop le that need vo lunteers
to find people wh o would like to vo lunteer. I know a lot of people who would like to volunteer, but they don 't know
where to go And I th ink somet imes that. .. they need to be encouraged . I also see a lot of ... a lot of cl ubs and a
lot of orga ,1izations that are just truly decimated beca use they don 't have volunteers anymore . I know trying to ge t
volu nteers for Englewood Days , try ing to get volun teers for different th ings in school was always a problem and I
just see th is as a generat or . The only problem I have is on our worksheet. .and I know th is was not part of the
reso lu ion ... but I rea lly th is ... the prob lem I guess ... ensurin g that the vo ice of ci ties is heard in federal leg islati ve
and pol icy and program s. As long as that doesn 't come to light... I can support th is 100%.
Mayor Woodward said so that was eliminated from the resolution Cou ncil Membe r Pen n said correct it was
already elim inated from the resolution And I'm glad it was .
Council Member Mccaslin said I just th ink the statement holds us accounta ble . I mean we talk about
accountability all the time and th is is just anot her th ing to hold us accountable to the people who wa nt lo
volunteer . You do n't hr1ve to if you don 't want to. We are not forcing you . Government 1s not forci ng you to
volun tee r We are just saying we would lovP 1t. .. here 's the opportunit ies join us .
Ma yor Woodward asked if there were an y othe r comm ent s.
Council Mem ber Gillit said of course . Everybody knows I am going to, so I might as well. When v,e met at Study
Sess ion we agreed tha t we would get trgether and re -do the wording . I wasn 't invi ted to be part uf re-doi ng the
wording ... l thought we were going to ~et toge ther and discus s th is before we brought th is forward . There ha s
bee n no discuss ion wilh us on so,,-,e of this wording . Some of th is wording Is sti ll disturbing . "Now therefore , we
resolv & •.o wor k together to focu•, the energies of our citizens" ... it is not my job to focus the ir energies . I don 't
thin k it is any of our jobs . If we could reword some of th is stuff, I could poss ibly support it , but , you kr.~w. sa ying •
that Americans must be engaged ... th ey must not... they can choose to be eng2ged if they wan t. There is so me
stuff in here , tha t...and I guess I question the need of this \9 beg in with . We have a great Ci ty, we've got kids
here that are in school , we have adults here who love to serve their community ... I just don 't think we need a
documen t say ing that...telling our people that you should serve . We all know that we serve ... we are a country
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based on serving Now w e have ch urches fu ll of servants , we have the Boy Scouts and Girl Scou1s and Cub
Scouts full of servants We have all kmds of service opportunn1es that don 't require a procl amation for us to do
that I'm a httle disturbed that we didn 't discuss th is before we broug ht 11 forward , because I thought that was our
agreement in Study Sess ion It appears that somebody took sorr-ethmg out but we d1dn l come to consensus on
what that 1s And I would ask that we table th is until we discuss and li ke our c1t1zens have asked for 1f we could
please Just get some more c1 t1zen input It would not hurt us to wait a couple of weeks I think 11 wo uld make ll
better It wou ld be better fo r our commun ity 1f we co uld please table this unul we had more discussion There 1s
some concern about verb iage there Is some concern about cI t1 zens that want to have some mput It Is exact ly
what we are asking for we are askmg our citizens for mpu t that 1s part of the service So , l am asking that we
table this unh l we have furt he r discussion and maybe the Englewood He ra ld to wrne an article abou t what do
you think ab out it ye, know We ve heard from some great citizens ton ight with some concerns Let s either
fulfi ll their co ncerns or ehminate th em We have a great opportun ity to really look good or r1?ally look like we are
1ust hell bent on doing 11 no matter wh at And I would rath er say , let 's engage our c1!ilcns , let 's engage ourselves ,
let's cool off a little bit. 11 won't hurt us and come ba ck at another time
Ma yor Wood ward said can I first address the c.greement to elimmate some verbiage and discuss th ts th e. I
bel ieve the City Attorney s Office did th is I don't thin k anybody oo th is Council un lll Thursday including
myself saw this piece of paper And I think that was Council Member G1lht said Is th •s not a changed
Ma yor Wood ward said this has been changed from what we saw at the Council Member G1lht said saw
f;'o n~ay Coanc1I Member Olson said based on what we talked about laku ,g out Ma yor Woodward said last
riv,cmd ay and ehmInate d some thmgs that you hrt d brou ght up and that were discussed some things ab out the
Ma yor and stuff hke that So this Is the d1s cu ss1on ti was discussed about bnngmg 11 forward then 1n a modified
form of eh mmatmg certa in Hems
CJuncil Member G1ll1t sa id I guess I was under the 1mpress1on we wou ld be mod1fymg 11 since we are re solving 1t
The Attorney's Office Isn t resotvIng 1t we are We should have input at least for our constituents show th em
that we are trying to do our JOb and show th em that we are rymg to do what 1s best for them In a good
open let's 1nv1te citizens in to listen and inp ut It Jus t won t hun us to do that
City Attorney Brotzman sa id 1f I can If I can I'm not saying anything abou t tabling It My understa nding from
that meeung Is that th ere were tw o issues One was InclusIve ci tt es whi ch was to come back to Council whi ch
11 has been scheduled for a Study Session and for d1scuss1on with Council Council Member G1U1t said correct
Cll y Attorney Brotzman said second issue was th is declara11on of service My understanding was that was 10 be
brought tonight, to thi s meeting and brought forward with certain mod1f1cc:1t 1ons reg arding 0bJec t1onable la nguage
which was removed That 1s why 11 1s here tonight 1s that was the consensus of Council was to bnng ti forward
tonig ht Now whe ther yeu m ove to table It or not that is certa inly a v1abIe opti on But why It 1s here tonighl was
Councils direction to my office to mal-.e changes and bn ng 11 forward
C..ounc1I Member G1ll1t said I totally unders' 1J But I guess I would 1mplor v,iu lets take nur tune on th 1s Lets
qet some words that I would like to he: our citizens come up and say they are for 11 I would love for more
citizens to g,ve us their ideas on It JUSt "ght nm-. I JUS I I Just don't have a good fee ling about 11 The "ay It s
commg th e way 11 1s bemg presented n~ere 1s Just something there ,s an easy there are ten words I d like lo
take out and se·1en woros I d like to put back m there I thmk 11 would make u soher and more -~sy for the
com munity to accept and let s work 1ogetller on that
Council Member O'son said I have a quesuon for you because this 1s like the thtrd time we have had this
conversa tion about serv ice And the very first time was several Stud y Sessions ago and you were quite opposed
to orgdntzIn g In any wa y around service m the City Is that has that shi ft ed at all for you now? Are you a 1Ittle bit
more Council Member G1ll 11 said that tha t 1s nol tr ue I have never been against serving our C,ty Counc11
Member Olson said organ12Ing 11 w1 thm the Ci ty and creating some son of forums for wh1c t1 we actually will
a:;:;ess all, volunteensrn In the C11y an d perhaps incorporate a number of orgamzattons Cmmcll Mem er G1ll1t
said I have never been agamst that Council Member Olson sa id okay okay so you are not again3t that
Council Member G1lh1 said no I am not against that l arn against t111s I am no\ against service I am against
how this 1s writt en wha t it 1s 1ell1ng our c1 tIzens an d how we are directing th em I don 't thmk our cI tILens want us
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Council Member Olson said le t me ask you in a different wa y then Would we change anything 1n th is 1n the
fu tu re wou ld you could you see yourself possibly wanting to suppon Council Member G1lht said I have my
changes nght he re Council Member Olson said wait a minu te a decla ration of service? Council Member
G1ll1t said yes Coun cil Men 1ber Olson said so you are w1lhng to c;1 t at the tab le and work on thi s so we can come
up w11r something that we ,,11 can agree on? Counc11 Member G1lht said not a problem Council Member Ol o.;on
sa d or at least get closer to we may not agree on everything Unless 11 has a 100% of what you want I m
hearing you won't vote yes anyway? Council Member Gllht said I d1dn t say that Council Member Olson said
good I wou ld say lets have an other month to discuss as a City the sen:Ice This 1s way to o important 10 have
th is be something thal an yone fe~ls tha t 1s ramroded We 've been talking about 1t for several months 1t s been
up on a :,umber of s1tes so that you ca n see th is I want us to thmk abet ~ 11 I do not want people to be th inking
o my goodness, we don't want to be a service city , because that doer ~·1 say very mu .:h for us as a city We ve
put ourselves In a bad place by vo ting ag :11ns t th is , so I would prefer ~o withhold 11 for awhile M ayor Woodward
sa id wi thdraw the matron? Counc,1 Membe, Olson said let me :ead to you wh y I've been looking you knm•.i
that I tea ch th is kind of stuf all thr · ne One of r1oJ ~.:.-.-.:.:;:~ ,naugurauon speeches will surprise you It was l
don't know 1f you remember wh o the 200th th e 200th year of celebrating ou r Presidency m the United
States ? Mr Cohn yo u have to know who tha l was The as laughter She said I'm sorry I pu t you on the spot
that wasn t fa ir But I lo.now you would know 1f l gave you i::n ough tim e because you are reall y good at th is kind of
st uff Im not so good at that So , anyway I m gomg to read this and you ask yourself 'Nho sard th is? "Im
speaki ng of a new engagement In the hves of others , a new acttv1sm hands-on and 1n1Jolved that gets the J0b
done We must bring .n th e gen erations harnessing lh e unused talent of the elderly arid the unfocused energy of
t1e you ng For not onl y leadership 1s passed from generation to generation , bu; so 1s stewardship~ And , she
said th at Is a lo t of what th is thin g Is about She continued ~and the generati on born after the Seco;,d World
War Ila, come of age She sa id I am part of lhat My fa lher fought In World War 2 and I feel like I have a legacy
to carry on I have spoken of a thousand poi nts of Ilg hr you must know wh o 1t 1s now I know you do · of all
the cornrrumty organizations that are spread hke stars throughout the Nation , doing good We will work hand m
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hand encouraging somet imes leading sometimes being led . rewarding We will work on this m the White •
House . 1n the Cabmet agencies 1 will go to th e people and the programs tha t are th e bnghter points of lig ht and I
will a~k every member of my gove rnment to become involved The old ideas are new again because th ey are not
old they are timeless duty sacnf1ce commItment and 3 pa i Iotism that finds its expression m taktng part and
pItc h1ng 111~ That's the sp,rn from George Bush Sr on the 1naugurat1on on 198 9 th e 200th anniversary of th tJ
Presidency tha t he had served and spoke about And that s what th is 1s abou t It 1s not a partisan thi ng II Just Is
not It s about us th1nk1ng about our commu nities , how we care ab ou t th em . how we 10In m how we ~ ch m ,md
helping crga n1z e aro un d that Thats all 11 ,s And being part of a co mm~rnty o service 1s not a part of the
Natron a! League of C111es ,t doesn t have anything to do with 11 It 1s a b1-part1san mayor Intt1at1ve and 11 s a way tn
\', h1ch we can 10m several of th e cI 11es around the metro area and see mg what are they domg how can we wori ,
togett,cr? You have needs v,e have resources. you have resources we have needs Joining 1n w1 th metro
vol unteers and oth er organrzatIons which ca n help us do this I see only pluses in this Bu t 1r 11 Is such a
rr•qauvc I \').JO I to al lo w some trme So I ani fin e w1l11 postponing th is for a short while
·ou nc1I Memher McCasl1n said I agree Its the 11.ay you present 11 1 you presen t after ::i um e shoving this
Jown yoU1 th1oa t I v.ou ld too you know But 1f you presen t 1110 people who read this ;ind ac oh by God lh
s great there Is noth,ng \Hong with this Council Member Olson said oh yes Anti I hava presen:ed 11 to mJn~
rnany in my ne1ghbornood Council Membe~ McCaslm satd I could tell you I could give your co:1s 1n u~n1c;
thmgs that I ve talked to them I would love to he;u th at open dialogue because I think 11 s you know let the
people decide II th at s what II ts But I thmk we are mt elhgent enough I think we can ask all our constit uents :f
\', e want to have two or three meetings on th is fine
CC'u nr.11 Member Olson 5a1d Jme of vou may t ave seen the De nve r Post thi s weekend the 2010 Volunteer
Guide how to make an impact of your commun tv It hst s what to do one day a year . 11 you gave one da y a year
It hsts what to do 1f you gave c.ine day a month 1f you gave one day a month what 1f you gave orie day a week It
is wonderful exam ples of tt11ngs l hal we could oe a part of and really encourage our citizens to do I mean
1.'.'l1ether we have an Imtrat1ve or not whether we snould do that or not to me II s about galva111z1ng ou 1
resources dnd assets That s all 11 1s lt s not telhng people what to do 1 wou ld neve r want people to volunteer 1f •
they wont I don't know 11 you have ever been on any volu nt eer trips where people were domg It 1ust because
tney had to 11 s awful -\nd the people who are being served are d1s served m th e process So , this 1s not to tell
people what to do. 11 s rathe1 n s galvanizing our folks So 1f you are rea lly senous those who migh t be against
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this, to actually work on the language, so that we can move forward on 1t, I am all fo r 1t If that 1s not your mtent.
and you simply want to continue a negative dialog ue on th 1s then I would rather vo te tomght and le t's get on wIlh
the service options opportunities in the cItIes
Council Member Jefferson said I personally have no problem with the concepts contained in th e declaratmn and ,
tn general I support them I'm sort of surpnsed to hear from some of our constituents tonig t about the strong
oppos1tion I don 't think it's overly , legally, con sequent 1al, but l too would ltke to hear some feedback , hav ·!"la
heard the generally negative comments from folks who came out tonight before we move foMard The pro~r·:;11
1s not going anywhere So, that ·s all the comments I have on that
Mayor Woodward said Linda , you had withdra .. n Council Member Qljon said do you wont me to withdraw
officially , an official withdrawal?
MOTION, TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION ANNOUNCING A DECLARATION OF SE RVIC E, WAS
WITHDRAWN BY COUNC IL MEMBER OLSON.
But. Council Member Olson said . I would like lo look In a month ... we need to look at our study schedule and then
bnog 11 ba ck But I would like lo move on 11 and nol delay. There is greal work lo be don e and wonderful
energies People in my neighborhood , and others, are thinking this Is a no-bramer So, I don't believe that it Is
al w~ys easy to see what this was about unless you read It yoursel f and I thin k that Is real important So, let's
leave time so people can look at 11
Ma yo r Woodward said I am prelty clear in regards 10 service . so I will bnng ... will be bring ing this to my Lions Club
Meeting tomorrow to see what they think of 11 It's. I lhink. I Council Member Mccaslin said we could probably
ta ke 11 to the schools too I mean there Is an endless amount of people who could take this U·emselves I don 't
have an issue with 11
Council Member Wilson said I'm good
Mayor Woodward said th ere's nothing I don't thmk you could have a volunteer that Is being directed that you
have to do this , by def1n1 t1 on they are not a vohJ11teer There was laughter
Several Council members were speaking a the same Ime
Counctl Member Olson said there Is a problem and Im sure the students who are here, I'm sure you are heanng
about 11 in your own schools and you probably talk about whether or not there should be required service or not I
mt. an 11 rs a maier issue m the service movement about requmng 11 and whether pe ople really care about what
the y are doing H's awful to have someone volunteering fo r you . whc, hcc; !o do 11 or doesn't want to be there And
tha Is not what th is Is about Its helping eople who want to be tt,cre . du 11 ma W8}' that 1s focused and helps
meet the challenges of today in our c1ues So I am passionate about this You know I am I ran on this when I
ran for City Council and so 11 Is par1 of what 1 th ink will re new all of our commun1tIes when we start to take th is
senously as cI tIzens Council Member McCashn said absolutely
Cou ncil Member Wilson said I liked your presentation tonight Council Member McCasltn said 11 was very good
Council Member Penn said I will comment !hat we did lose our volunteer students from Englewood High School
They have 1aken that out of the proficiency and It 1s no longer there So we need to find a way
Several Council members spoke at once
Mayor Woodward said a week or two ago . at the Parks and Recreation Comm1ss1on . that 11 was not that 11 was
actually expa'lded Council Member Penn said no I think the prof1 c1enc1es tiave an been dropped Mayor
Woodward ~2 Id all I know Is what l heard from a board member
Council Member Olson satd Jus t an anecdotal p iece of mforma!lon I run a program where service for our
students at University were required 10 give 40 hours a year We stopped th at requirement and the number of
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hours have skyrocketed As we presented the whole idea of being a citi zen and being engaged , students have
logged way over 100 and some hours alread y and we are not even done . So , I think when people want 10 do 11,
wh ich I think ,s what you are speaking 10 th en 11 1s something important Otherwise , 11 ,s JUSI a drudgery and Iha!
1s no t what th is 1s ab out I don 't want 1t ever to become that It needs to be com e gracious service Enough l ve
sa 10 enough Rick says I lect ure so come to my classroom There was laughter
Ma yor Woodward said . Just speaking of serv ice, I 1ust want to mention I belie ve the prom 1s thts wee k nght?
Council Membe r Penn said yes , Fri day Ma yor Woodward said I would really encourage you to go to Englewood
High School evening Fnday ,s ii Fr id ay ? Mr Penn said ii ,snot al !he High School . Counc il Member G1ll11
said we are not going to gether There was laughter r ·~var Woodward said not you , you 're not I think you
sho uld bnng your permanen t dale, your wife but Sl · opportunity that was there . because when we did Aid to
Other Agenc ies and I know you had an iss ue with thal but I would encourage you to see the value what I
beh eve 1s the value of that program
Council Member Penn satd that would be Aher Prom and It wou ld be about 11 00 o'clock at night There was
la ughter Council Men ,ber G1lht said that's not go1 ng to happen Several Council members were 1al k1ng Mayor
Woo dward said we ll . ,, Is something for our k1ds and 11 s a safe place fo r our kids But I JUSt wanted to Counc1
Member G11ht sa id will you bU)' me a ticket? Ma yor Woodward sard I don 't think wr: have to buy a ticket I think
Council Member Penn said 11 doesn't cost to get into After Prom Several Cou ncil members sp oke at the same
time Mr Penn said they do need vol unt ee rs
(v) Cou ncil Member Jefferson said I Just appreciate evf ryone coming down and sh aring thetr
thoughts on that and hopefully you did eel th at vou were heard tonight So, I appreciate eve ryone coming down
and spen ding their tim e
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Someone spoke from the aud renc e He said th e way to ge t people to serve Is to lead A suggestion might be ~or •
you guys to each go In to your D·stncts and find something that needs to be done and mvIte your
consti tuent s (some of his comment s were 1naud1 b1e ). and get ti done That's the way you do service
Council Member McCashn said are you as suming that we don 't do that now? Are you assu ming that we don t do
that now? T he person from th e audience Sd1d 1 am amazed at the conversations ta kin g place I reall y
am (some of his cornmenrn were inaudible )
Council Mer ber Olson said In terms of protocol Mayo r could Several Council members made comments
13 City Man ager's Report
C ty Manager Sears dtd not have any matters to bring before Council
1.: Cit y Att o rney's Report
C ty A\lomey Br otz man did not have any matters to bring before Council
15 Adj ournment
l he mee11ng adiourned at 9 20 p m
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