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Home My WebLink About2010-05-17 (Regular) Meeting Minutes• • C• I t o O•der ENGLEWOOD CITY COutiCIL ENG LEWOOD, ARAPAHOE COUNTY , COLORADO Regular Session Ma , 17 , 2010 TM r~gular ,nee· ,,,y of the Englewood City Council wa s called to order by Mayor Woodward at 7 41 p.m The mvoca t,on was given by Council Member McCaslln Pledge of Allegiance The Pledge of Alleg iance was led by Council Member Mccaslin Roll Call Presen t Absent. A quorum was present Also prese nt Council Meri,bers Jefferso n, Olson , Pen11 , Gilht , McCa shn , Wilson , Woodward None City Man ager Sears City Attorney Brotzm an Deputy City Manager Fla herty City Clerk Ellis Depu ty City Clerk Bush Director While , Community Development Senior Planner Langon , Commumly Development Deputy Chief of Police co;hns Co nsideration of Minutes of Previous Session (a) COUNCIL MEMBER GILLIT MOVED , AND COUNCIL ME MBER PENN SECONDED , TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE RE GULAR CITY CO UNC IL MEETING OF MAY 3, 20 10 . Mayor Woodward asked 1f there were any mod1flcat 1ons or correct1ons There we re none Vote results : Mouon earned A) es Council Members Penn McCashn , Wilson , Woodward , Jefferson , Olson . G1lhl Nays None 6 Recognition of Scheduled Public Comment There were no schedu led v1s1to rs • Recognition ol I 'oschcduled Publi c Comment (a) Jerr\ Furman , an Englewood resident , said I 1usl wanted to say thank you lo Ma yor Woodward , Linda Olson , and Randy Penn for coming lo volunteer for Special Olympics Our guys had a really fun time Englewood City Council May 17 , 2010 Pag e 2 se ein g you gu ys there . And the other question is ... when 1s time for the ci tizens to pic k who they !hink serves I e Citizen of Year Ma yor Woodward said it typically happens in February .. j ust to answer you tha t. We JU,I celebrated that a week ago . last Mond ay nig ht, with Dr. Roscoe Davidson Mr . Furman said wh o put him 1n? W as 11 on e of you guys who put him in? Because I have been tellin g you guys about Ma rk DeHa ven, who ha s volunteered for 20 so me years ... and helping out Special Olympics and stuff an d I told you g uys that was th e p~rson I thought deserved it. And I have been tell in;J you guys that and it sound s like you are no t hearing from the c1 t1zens who see the voluntee rs wh o volunteer a :')t of time . Ma yo r Woodward said thank you Jerry and tha nk you for the pho to too that you left us . (b) Diane Re inhold , an Englewood resident, said my question Is about th e ,a nd fill and I only moved here in November of '07, so I know nothing abo ut it ... if we even have one . In 1984 and '85 I worked on ... for gett ing the new landfill'" Rockford , Ill inois and they were getting new proposals for the la ndfill. And I took the min utes for 11 and one th .ng they co ns idered very importa nt was an inc inerator . And I would like to know ... do we have one? And then tllere wa & thi s article in Parade Magazi ne .. ." A College Powered by Garbage". It is a coll ege up in New Ham pshire that the local landfill .. they used the methane gas for it and their college campus Is powered . 85 % of their power co mes from that methane gas I wonder if we do anyth in g like that around here? So, my th ing ... my ques tion wa s ... do we have an incinerator? Because the head of the landfill pro1 ect. .. the lady tha t was head o: 11... she reall y intbled that we needed a landfill.. that was in '84-'85. And th en I was won dering if we do anyth ing with th e methane gas from th e landfills . Can an ybody answer me ? Mayor Woodward said we will probab ly address that at the end of the meeting under Council Members Choice . Ms . Rei nho ld sa id oh , ok ay. Cou ncil Membe r Wilson sa id Jim ... co uld we make that a Co uncil Req uest or do we t,ave to wa it unti l the end? • Mayor Wo~d w.,rd sa id let's watt until the end , be ca use I th in k 11 can be address ed . Ms Wil!;on said oka y. • Mayor Woodwa ·d said 1f you wa nt to make 1t a Cou nc il Request at that ti me Counci l ember Wilso n said oi<ay. Ms Re inh old said I didn 't get to the Energy Conservation Stab1 l1 ty Fa ir, be cause it was snowi ng Mayor Woodward said please go on ... you have anot her mmu~e if you would like Ms Reinhold said okay .. well I di dn 't make it to that a 1d I wish I could have But It was snowing and I didn 't have an y tr ansportation . My ne ig hbor and I w 're going to r;ome, bu t we didn't 1•·1nt to wa lk throug h the snow So , anyw a:· when did you say yo u wou ld answer th is .. questions? May or Wotrj wa rd sa id ... well , questio ns at the end or the mee tm g un der Council Membe rs Choic e. Ms Reinnold said oh , okay Alright , thank yo u Mayor Wo od ward said th ank you :'\11<1 I would be pleased to speak to you afterward s, abou t 1! also Ms Reinhold sa id okay 8 Com munications , Pro cla,nations and Appointment s (a ) A memorandum from Amy Jir on subm1tt1ng her res1gna t1 on from the Englewo od Urba n Renewal Authon ty was co nsidered CO UNCIL MEMBER GILLIT MOVED, AND CO UN CIL M EMBE R WILS ON SECONDED , TO ACCEPT HIE RESIGNATION OF AMY JIRON FROM THE ENGLEWOOD URBAN RENEWAl AUTHORITY. IA ayor Woodward said 1s there an y discussion or any comments? l~ayor Wo odward said I would hke to comme nt that I did serve with Amy. Amy Is a very knowledgeable person , also an anorney who curren tl y, or presen tly , has been staymg home with her children 1s moving ou t of the City • now an d that is w hy she Is lea ving However, she also was trained and helped th e Deputy City Manag er Mike Fla herty with the energy audit that we had done last year So , she did "'"'e than 1ust Englewood Urban • • Englewood City Council May 17, 2010 Page 3 Renewal Authority and I just wanted to express my appreciation f0r '.hat So , unless there are an y oth er comments , please vote . Vote results : Motion camed . Ayes Cou ncil Members Penn , McCast1n , Wils on , Woodward , Je fferson , Olson , Gillit Na ys : None 9 Consent Ag en da (a) Approval or O•d !nan ces on First Readi ng There were no ad ditiona l items submitted for approva l on first reading , (See Agenda llem 11 .) COUNC IL MEMBER WILSON MOVED, AND COUNCI L MEMBER OLSON SE CO NDED , TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 9 (b) (I). (b) Approval or Ordinances on Second Reading (i) ORDINANCE NO 15 , SE RIES OF 2010 (COUN CIL BILL NO . 10, INTRO DU CED BY CO UNCIL MEMBER OLSO N) AN ORDIN A NCE APPROVING TH E SALE OF FIVE PR OPERTIES ON THE OPEN MARKET, WHICH WE RE PURC' JASED AND REHABILITATED WITH FUNDS FROM TH E NEIGI IB OR HOOD STABILI ZATI ON PROGRAM GRANT AND THE LTAR FUND . Vote results : Motion carried Ayes : Council Members Penn , Mccaslin , Wilson , Woodwa rd , Jefferson , Olson , Gilht Na ys : No ne (c ) Resolul1ons and Motions There wer e no resolu tions or mollons sub mitted for approval. 10 Public Hearing Items (a) Mayor Woodward said lh Is Is a Pu blic Hea nng lo gather input on Council Bill No 11 , authonz,ng amendmen ts to Title 16 Unified Development Code t, per mit buy -back second -hand , lh ri ft and consignment uses as use",·C ,'•flght in the MU-B-1 Zone D1stn c1 Before we start with ou r staff , I JUSt would hk.e to read City Attorney Brr.tzm an said Lou 1s askmg 1f you want to 1..~Pn t e Pubh c Hearing or do your speech fi rst May or Woodward said I will go ahead and read this first and lht...., ·e will open 1t up Mayor W oo dward said I see that there are qu ite a few people that are signed up to speak tonig ht and address Ci ty Council duri ng th e Public Heanng rega rding zoning modifica tio ns for NIU-B-1 D1stncl. Th is Is regarding a land use m the d1stnct and not a specific busmess or busine sse s. We want to mak e sure everyone who wants to be heard , gets the opportuni ty . I will ask if anyone who didn't have the opportunity to sign up .. , wishes to speak after the la st speaker, that has signed up , speaks We do welcome you r input about is sues or concern In Englewood With that said , we have found that It Is helpful 1r one or two people give us a clear and concise pre sentati on of an is sue , rather than having severa l pe ople repeat the exact same message . With that as a basis , we can move on to th e add1 t1 ona l presentations by other speakers adding new mformation Something I li ke I agree wi th the other presentation and Jane Doe or s1mp l• I agree wi th the presentations made by Jane Doe Is encouraged We respect tha l you came to share your Inpu t thi s evening and we ask that you display the same respect for ea ch oth er We ask that you do not applaud ind1v1dual speakers . we want to hear Englewood City Counci l May 17 , 2010 Pag e 4 your input While we understand that the issues . and even the fa ct that you are presenting ma pubhc fo rum can be an emotional expenence , we ne ed to address the facts and wan t to come to a fair and JUSI co nclu sion A respectful and reasonable presentat ion will help us to do that Please llmtt your presentat ion to five mmutc~ P!'rl times will nol be perm itted to be transferred to another speaker The timer at the podium will help you determine you r remai ni ng time . We ha ve also received input from c1 t1zens , businesses and other interested part ies thro•1gh a variety of corres pondence, that correspondence w ill be incorporated into the record of tonight's mei=::~1ng So , is there a motion to open the Public Hea nng? COUNCIL M EMBER WILSON MOVEO , AND COUNCIL MEMBER GILLIT SECONDEO, TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO gather input on Council BIii No.11 , authorizi ng amendment s to TIiie 16 : Unifie d Devel opment Cod e to permit buy.bac k, se cond -h and , thrift and consignment us es as use s-by -right in the MU-B-1 zone d istrict. Ayes· Council Members Penn , Mccaslin W ilson , Woodward , Jefferson, Olson , Gillit Nays None Motion earned and the h . ,. : Hearmg opened Mayor Woodward sa1d our staff source tonight Is Tnc1a Langon , from our Community Development Department All witnesses were duly sworn Senior Planner La ngon said for your conslderauon tonIgh1 at this Public Heanng Is Council bill No 11 , Umfied Llcivelopment Code amendmPnts to allow buy -backs, second-hand , thnft and cons,gnmenl uses In the M U-8 -1 dowm.::wn d1s tnct For the record, I have already submitt ed , to the Clerk , notice of the Pubhc Hearing that appeared both ,n the Englewood Herald on Ma y 7. 2010 and on the City of Englewood website from May 6 to May 17 2010 . And , as you stated Mayor the Council Communication that you received the packet you received mcluded letters and e-mails both for and ag ainst the proposed amendments .that were received by the City by noon on May 13th Those ,terns that were received following that deadline . have also been s bmitted to you and I submi t those for the record First, before we begin with the background and history. I 1ust ·.-.a nt to clear up some mIsconce ptIons that I understand that are going around , mostly from having read th ee- m ails Fm:l off, :t1ese am endm ents do not affect lattoo or pawn shops many way They are still prohib1ted In the 8-1 D1stnc t and that I~ not being changed In any way The amendments any amendments that are aoopted affect the entire zone district. not any one particu lar property 3nd not Just the South Broadway comdor that Is part of the 8-1 District and that portion of the 8-1 District that Is along Broadway Is Just tne blocks the 3300 to the 3500 bl ocks that's basically Floyd to US 285 One ex,st,ng thrift store m the downtown Is considered a .. right now a non-conforming use It has been In existence , I believe some 35 or more years and 11 Is non-conforming, as 11 Is not m comphance w ith the current zonmg As a way of ba ckgrounn th e early Ci ty Codes allowed retail uses m the downtown dIs1nct /I• :C included In that language was a catch•all p rase or any use that was s1m1lar to those downtown uses even mough there was a long probably 90 items of J ses tnat were allowed , but the n that last phrase was and any s1m 1lar use So, that Is bas1 c ally how thrift or second -hand shops came to exist In B-1 They were deemed, at 1hat time. to be similar uses In 1997 as a result of the South Broadwa y Action Pla n , zoning amendments were enacted that proh1 b1ted 1he pawn and second-hand stores in th e 8 -1 District . along with bu y back second -hand and consignment shops ln 2004 , th ose uses the pawn still remamed proh1bIted In 8 -1. but second-hand buy-back, thrift and consignment wer~ separated out as and grouped into one category of use typ e w11h1n the Table of Allowed Uses Per the table bu y-back second-han d thnft and consignment , were considered to be prohIbIted As a result of a cI11ze 11 inq uiry this past January about consignment store use In the D1stn ct, Council directed the issue be sent 10 the Planning and Zoning Commission And on March 2nd the Comm1ss1on held a Study Session and discussed a number of options for how th1s issue rrnght be addressed Or April 6th the Comm1ss1on held a Pubhc Hearing And rive people spoke In favor of the proposed amendm ents and th e proposed amendments are the ones m the packet and the ones that you saw at first reading two weeks ago T e pubhc or the Planning and Zoning Comm1s s1011 re commended to you that the four uses 111 the group tha l again Is buy-back . second -hand thnft and consignment sllll remain as one group or one use type wI thm the Table and that they all be allowed as a use -b y•right w1th1n the 8 -1 Zone District As I said , the ordinance m your packet Is as the Comm1ss 1on re commended At first reading two weeks ago , on May 3rd , you directed staff to prepare separate def101t1 ons for those four separate uses And those requested defm1t1ons are included In your Cou ncil Communicat1on this • • • • • • Englewood City Council May 17, 2010 Page 5 evening . They begin on page 2 of lhe Communication . They were written based on the use 's reta il operation and the ex isting use of second -hand goods . If you would like to follow along on page 2, I will go over those four definitions. Again , as I said , they are based on the reta il operation of the use , as all four are still retail uses . Bu ,-~•~~ p.er tne proposed definition , or the definllion that was included ... a retail establishment that deals primalil f •n ,h o ~uying , selli ng , trading , or trade for credit of second -hand good s, such as sporting goods , and eie,;,ron lc games and system s. Cons ignment is de fined as a retail establishment that deals primarily In second - hand goo,ls resold through a broke r for the owner , with the pro•,ision that payment is expected only on •:ompletec l sales and that unsold Items may be relumed lo the owner. Second-hand ... a retail es:Sbllshmenl lhat deals prir,arily in second-hand goods , such as apparel , household items , furniture , and books . This use type does not ,nc lude the sale of second-hand motor vehicles , parts or accessories , scrap or waste . And the defin ition of thrift is a retail establishment that deals primarily in donated second-hand goods operated by a non- profit charitable organization , as defined in Internal Revenue Serv ice Code 26 USCS 501 as amended . Th is use type does not Include the sale of second-hand motor vehicles, parts or accesso1i es , scrap or wa,te. Included in your packet are three amendment alternatives and I will go over those , for the cenefit of ••!! :~e folks here . These , again , are listed in your packet . Number 1 is ... adopt the amendments as prop,,sP.~ by tMe Planning and Zon ing Commission and that would keep all four uses as a single us e type with in the Table of Allowed Uses and permit all four of those uses in the MU -B-1 Distrlct. The existing , non-conforming thr,it use in the MU-B-1 , under this alternative , would become a conforming use . There would be no amendments Meded to the Council Bill , as required , and the bill would proceed to second reading two weeks from tonight •Jn June 7, 2010 , with an anticipated effecli vs date of the ordinance of July 12th. Option 2, or alternative 2, is ,ep1rate the four uses into individual use types , with the separate definitio ns , as I read them. Th is would require an amendment to Table 16-5-1 -1: Tat•le of Allowed Uses to show each of those uses as separate uses and also to show in which District each one of 1he individual uses is either allowed as a permitted or conditional use . Any ex ist ing use not permitted un derthls re-des ignation ... would become a non-conforming use . Th is amendment alternative requires tha t Council Bill 11 be sent back for first readi ng , as amended and antic ipated effect ive date of th e ordinance would then i,s delayed two to four weeks , depend ing on the degree of amendment . Third option , also included hi your packet, was based on some suggestions that the definition of thrift store also be ame nded to allow lwo types of thrift stores ... sma ller and a large thrift store . And the de finitio n in your packet is based on the sr,uare footage and in the packet...that basis is that 10,000 square feel This would also req ul•e amendments 10 th e Table of Allowed Usts, this time with 5 categories ... the 3 uses of buy-back , consi gnment and second-hand ... and then :i llnes ... one each fo r the large thrift and then small thrift . Any ex isting use not al lowed in B--1 by th is amendment , would also become a no n-conform ing use and th is amendment alternative would requ ir,, that Cou nc il Bill 11 be sent back for firs t read ing , as amended . The anticipated date , aga in, for effectivenes,, of the ordinance change would also be 2 to 4 weeks . Again , depend ing on the degree of amendments. I nee d to point Jut though , that based on the definition in the Unified Development Cod e ... a floor area of a struc :ure ... it's co nce ivable that a structure ... maybe at 15 ,000 square feet...could actually have ... onl y have ma ybe 5,0~0 squa re reel of storage and then that would be 10,000 feet of store area and so that would still be considered a small tr rift use . So , depending on the size of the store , oepending on how the store is used , or the bui lding is u•;ed, th e degree of storage and other items that ca n be subtracted out of the gross floor are a, the figur e that is inc :ludeci In your packet at 10 ,000 square feet , ma y or may not be th e des ired size . In other words , th e differe ntiation in size at 10 ,000 square feet , ma y not ach ieve what is intended . Aga in, depend ing on how the stru ct ure is used . Just in summary , the add itions of the definitions to each type wou ld require a reput·li cation . As I stated two weeks ago at the first reading , other municipal ities do not differentiate between these tour uses and no one uses ... no one us e Is singled out as be ing prohib ited . The primary funct ion of all four ,,,es included in th is am emt ment are retail and It is the operation of the use that Is different for each use . An~ Ihat Is wh y the Pla nning Commission proposed the amendments that you received ... that all four uses be allowed as perm itted in the B-1 Zo ne District. I will be happy to address any of your q1Jest ions . Council Member Mccaslin sa id I know you just probably said It .. but I am go ing to ask it again . The Plann ing and Zon ing Comnis slon agreed that all fo ur usages should be allowed in MU -B-1. Is that correct? Ms Lan gon said correct. Mr. Mccaslin said that I all I wanted to know . Mayor Woodward sa id Tric ia, on the ... what you called the amendment alternatives ... just to verify that none of these optio ns have to go ba ck to Plann ing and Zoning ? They can be done .. Ms . Langon said I will defer to Mr. Brotzman . City Attorney Brotzman said yes , that is correct. ~ayor Woodward said that is correct, okay . Englew o od City Council May 17 , 2010 Page 6 City Allorney Brotzman said I should say you voted on 1h1s on first reading Tonight's a public hearing to gel input you wont modify that untu your next meeting Ma yor Woodward said the 7tn Council Member Olson said I have a ques11cn You said you surveyed nine othe r r.ommuni t1es on the way m which the four were determined an~ one did single out or dtd have a vanance, which City was tha t and do you know what the occas1on was for that? Senior Planner Langon said off-hand I don 't recall. Ms Olson said we . o the y even 1n the metro area ? Ms Langon sa id all m the metro area . And I behe 1.e the one only separated by def1nit1on that's all Not by use m their use chan Council Member Olson said would you be able to find lhat 1nformat1 on? I'm just cunous hecause there may be good reason at some poin t 1n time, given our new s1tuat1on we are m and our cu rrent ec m,cs , as wel! as the way 1n which the community has. developed, that 1t may make sense to actually break une ou t at some time rather than lump them together Ms Langon said I may have 11 here 1n tlie packet, othenv1se 1t's on my compu ler And probably it 1s on the computer Ms Olson said even 1f I ave 1t oy next even 1f I have 11 by next time , I'm fine Ms Langon said okay I can certainly have that for you and I know we did a whole chart on 1t No, I don't h8ve !I here Ms Olsrn sa id oh, it 's tn the-chart that you gave us? Ms Langon said no , no I did a chart or we had a chart , but I don't have 1t here with me Ms Olson said I don 't need 11 tom~~t Tonight we are hsten1ng so it's a piece of 1nformat1on l would like Thanks Ms Langon said okay we can do that for y'Ju Mayor Woodward asked aie there any other questions tor Ms Lans m There were none Mayor Woodward said okay w ell thank you Tnc1a Ms Langon said thcnk you Mayor Woodward said we are ~e ady I JUSI want to add that at th e conclusion of the Public H,~anng , Council may have some comments , however. no dec1s1ons wt11 be made tonight , as pointed out A discussion and vote will comp fJr.vard at our next scheduled meet1 g on Monday, June 7th Je rry F1Jrma11 , an Englew,od resident sci1d the fundmg of Bro.1d way wa s found~d by people that wanted to sell siu!"!' on the s treet on Broad wd y on do \·m town Broad¼ay A.10 1t used to be :,tores some of th em did do second-hand, thrift store hke thing The oldest one 1s the Army Surpluo; store m Englewood Why are th ey allowed to sell used stuff wh)" are they allowed to do th at and no other t.i ,,smesses can do that? I w11I ,.!ave you guys alone on that Ma yor Woodward said thank you Steve Rtbbens a Parker res1d~nt said I am hr re as the co-chair of the ReNew Th ri ft Store Committee a development learn a sub·cr.,mni 1ttee of Denver Christian School Board I have be en involved with Denver Chnst1an Schools for eve · 30 years as a teacher coach, high school pr1nc 1pal and a parent And I am ask ing you to pass the Unifi ed Uevelopment Code amendments perm1ttmg b11y -back , second-hand th nft and consignment us1::s m the MU -B· 1 District, as ong1nal!y proposed If passed ReNew w1H be s,gmng a ten year lease for the p1 operty at 34 73 South Broadwav I m 1mrressed with thP quahty or merchandise offereo at th lo::al shops ::idhng used goods And that includes Dress For Less Molly 's Closet and the Yellow Rose franchises Reselhng quality used goods 1s smart t'lus1ness great for th e economy 11 keers things out of the landfll1 s and helps consumers slretch their dollar It also helps ne1ghbormg busmesspoi; bn11gmg new customers into the neighborhood and 1s an cxcelle.1 1 source of revenue for the ,Jcal mumc1pa .y A store that se ll£ quality used ,terns 1s good for everyone l attended th e South Broadway Englewood Business Improvement O1s tnct meeting on May 5 ano hstened to the concerns of many of the local busmess owners about thrift stores And both at that meeting and 1n subsequent meetmgs 111 fact I have been around the block, hteratly a coup!e of so many times, I ttunk you guys arP. getting sick o' seeing me But I am still qo1ng to stor m We want to be good neighbors and 11 we have ttv · opportumty. we want to understand what th e concerns are and be able to address th ose concerns Based on our research , we believe that I/;~ ca n ru n this store , drawmg ram our over 5 000 alumm , the parents of alumni th e rarents of current stuL'. 'nts anct long term consti tue nts as our volunteers and on ly "lave one paid emptoycle Some say 1t can 't be done Ive seen 13 stores throuyhout the Un ited St ates that have dC"ne that And 11 11 doesn't work . .ve will have to hire somebody Plse thats fme We're not II snot gomg to mc.1<e or break us tf we Just have one paid employee and 1f we need to add employees we wilt add employees We be:1 ve we neeo a b01ld1ng of about 13 500 square feet tf'I crea1e a v1able shopping des tmau on wnh an adeq uate variety of merchand1se m addition to havmg adequate storage and a workshop to repair non-workmg it ems We wi ll accep l donations only durmg the hours we are open and we will have a removable si gn stating th rtt sta tm g exattly 11,~, If dona11ons get dropped off dunng • • • • • • Englewood City Council May 17, 2010 P1ge 7 the hours thal we are closed , we will make arrangements to pick 1nose up . We will have staff on hand , we will hJve volunteers . If we need to, we will put a new structure in to have donations iccepted . If we need to , we will move it to the s:hools and not have donations accepted on site . We want to be good neighbors , just as we ~•peel the businesses around us to be good ne ighbors . We are goi,1g to be part of the community for the long 1, •JI . Although we are designated as a non-profit, our intent is to ger.drale as r,,ooy sal •?c as possib le. The ~"ality of our merchandise and the appearance of our stor~ is c11t•::a1 to our success . We are a non-profit t ,:siness . We want to make a lot of money for Denver Christi~r,. So , It is In our best interest to have quality gl,Ods and a great store . For the business people here ... whe,1 you fi rst opened your business , you made ;,rom ises to your customers and asked them to trust you. n,ey gave you a chance and you were able to stay in business . For the City Council people ... at some point when you ran for election , you made prom1ses ... you asked the people to give you a chance ... now you are serving the people of i:nglewood . ReNew is pa1 of Denver Christian Schools and we have been in bus iness for PO plus years . And after two years of due diligence of th is comm ittee, we believe that we have a great busine, s model In Re New We are making the prom ise that we will be an upscale bouti que thrift store , lo be good neig,,bors and to help ~enerate more business for downtown Englewood and we are just ask ing for a chance . Thank you . Mayor Woodward said thank you . Mr. Rlbbens said I also have some petitions , I have about 30 si,•natures ... may I? Mayor Woodward said absolutely . Mr. Rlbbens sa id thank you . The petitions were subm itted tt• the City Clerk . Ma yor Woodward sa id Mr. Ribbens ... I th ink ... speaking ... at least on my own behalf... we certa inly ... regardless of th is Public Hearing ... would love to have you and your orr1an 'zation in the City ct Englewood . Ana I think there has always been a partnersh ip, somewhat , between l1en\'er Christian and Englewood High School and ... It goes back e 'ong time . So , please don 't get the impression that we are looking al Denver Christian Academy as something that ii is ... that it isn't. Mr. Ribbens said I appreciate t11at . Michelle Drent, a Castle Rock resident , said I am a Denver Chris ti an alumni , I am a parent and I am a Board member . For the past two years I have also been a co-chair of the ReNew thrift store development team work ing to establish an upscale bout ique thrift store , in south Denver , that would be of va !ue to the commun ity and that would be a source of revenue for Denver Christian Schcols . I am a native of Colorado and I grew up in southeast Denver. I have shopped Broadway for as long as I can remember . Broadway , Includi ng downtown Englewood , has a long standing repu tation and image as be ing a destination for resale shopping . Antiques , thrift stores , pawnshops , co nsignment shops , refurbished appliances , furniture , used cars , costumes , mus ical instruments , books ... and I could go on and on . And I have often looked fur many of the~• things . These ty,::es of businesses and this type of destina ti on are attra cliv e to all socioeconom ic groups They always have been and lhey always will be . No matter If th e economy is goo d or bad , there will always be people who ne ed th ri ft ... lo shop thrift for the ir bas ic needs and people who love lhe thrill of find ing a barga in or that ec lecti c Item that they just can't find at your typical store . For this reason , and more , we have focused our search for a location on Broadway and we are very excited about the possib ility of partner ing with the existing businesses and th e Yellow Rose 10 add va lue , to Increase foo t traffi c and have a pos itive impa ct on the community . II is our miss ion and vision to estab li sh a thri ft sto re that does n't follow the status qu o. A store sp eci alizi ng in high qu ality merchandise , available in a dist inctly non -thrift at mosphere. An atmosp here tha t has a qual ity Imag e, is clean Insi de and out , inviting to all demog raphic s, well organ ized, acce ss ible and tha t drive s repeat bus ines s. Our bus in ,,s model Is neilher un ique nor un heard of. We ha ve done our due dil igence ar.d de ve loped a comprehens ive business plan . For two years we have stud ied and vlslted ... hands on ... thrift slo res aro ;r.d th e country that are supported by a small number of pa id staff and a large core of volunteers that are committed and pa ssio nate about lhelr mis sion . Th ese stores operate in a si ze of about 9,000 fee t to 25 ,000 squ are feet. The pro pe rty we are interested in Is 13,500 square feet. They gross anywhere from $300 ,000 to a millio n doll ars annually and in many cases they often sell new I nerchand ise at a discount , which is someth ing we also intend to do . Denver Christian Schools has served the so uth Denve r me tro area for 90 years . We have a large base of constituents , as Steve said , and we are more strongly ca pitaliz ed than mos • ··uslness start ups . We have the resources and ex pertise with in our comm un ity to re cru it and pay add itional Tf as we need them lo professiona ll y merc handise our produ cts, to offer the highest quality product and customer experien ce poss i~l e. We have heard your co ncerns , or th e bus ines ses concern s, about un Gl ghtly plies of donations projecting the wrong image of th e commun ity . Th is is contrary to our miss ion an d vision fo r ReNew. Those concern s are valid . You have our word that we will do all that we can to ma intain a clean slure property at all times . We pl an to do th is by receivi ng th e bulk of our donations al our three school campuses ?Od edu cating our constituents about the items lhat are acceptab le . We will not have an y permanent signage an yw he re on th e property Englewood City Council May 17, 2010 Page 8 promoting a donation drop-off. So that so mebody would see that and drop-off when they felt like it. We will only accept donations during our business hours , we will ensure that we have adequate capacity for trash and multiple pick-ups per wee k if necessary . We will comm it to rnonitor donations made during non-business hours , ~y having stsff and volun teers ded icated to this role , speclflcally . And we will prov ide our bus iness neighbors with a number to call , if large , off-hours donations are made , so that we can respond . We will work wl:~ our business partners to address any other concerns or problems that arise upon opening . In cl~eing , man y c' Den,er Christian 's constituents that will be supporting the miss ion of our store , live prim arily In Douglas , Jefferson and central east Arapahoe Counties . They are upstanding , upper-middle to upper class parents , alu mni and grandparents ... that If not for the presence or this store , woul not have a regular reason to visit , shop or find entertainment in downtown Englewood . Our school community is very excited about the poss ibility of hav ing our store at the South Broadway location . We anticipate that members of our school community will not only be our primary donors and volunteers , but they will be shoppers and patrons at our store and at the surrounding bus inesses . So , I ask that you pass the Unified Development Code amendments permitting bu ) backs , second-hand , thrift and consignment uses in MU-B-1 Zone District , as originally proposed ... allowing re,, all four and going wi th no option one . Than~ you . Mayer WJOdward sa id thank you . Melissa Schaap , a Littleton res ident , said I stand here as a very involved parent of two Denver Christian children and I would just lik e to express my co mplete support for every1hing that Michele and Steve have communicated in the ir well stated speeches . I would also just like to really emphasis what I heard in the opeoing invocation and the prayer when you opened ... about se rv ing the community and just how th is store is about serv ice and that co mes ... that wil l be integrated Into how this store is built and the community that we would like to see bu ilt through this particular endeavor . I have been asked to read an e-mail tha : came through that has not been inclu ded In the packet. It comes from a gentleman by the name of Michael Gold ... so , if I could have perm iss ion to read his e-mail. "My name is Michael and I'm the owner of TheThriftShopper.Com an online directory or over 9,300 charity resale shops nationwide . I understand the re is some debate as to whether to ; 'o w charity resale shops :o oµaa In your downtown area . I'd like to add some educated in put If I may . I've been a thrift shopper fo r 25 years a~ an adult and the days of junky unkempt thrift shops are coming to an end . The term thrift shop used to mean a olace where a group of well intentioned folks had tables full of donated items in bad parts of town . Many ch ari tv resale shops no longer use the word thrift In the name of the bus in ess to distance themselves from th Jt image . What's happening Is that more and more charity resale shops are becoming boutique-like in the w.,y the business is run ." Ms . Schaap said ... which is exactly our goal. "The items for sale are of better quality ar ,d the shops are gett ing more concerned about look ing like a boutique and less like a thrift shop . Charity re sa le ,·hops toda y are shopped by every demographic in our soclety " ... as Michelle tal ked abou t... ·and they are shopped more often than reg ula r businesses , as the inventory changes daily . More folks would vis it your do,;I,town area to shop at charity resale shops and other businesses in your d0wntown ... and this would benefit ... and your dow ntown would benefit from lhis added foot traffic . Cha rity resale shopp ing Is a way to sa \'e money , keep Items out of landfills and suppo" a wonhwhile charity . Many people exclusively shop charity res ale , like my wife and I and mill ion s of Ame ricans . If I c.an 'Je of further assistance , please feel free to e-mail or cal ! me ." Ms . Schaap sa id my husband and I spen t a co,,ple of hours on Saturday , just walk ing around the area and tal king to some local bus iness owners and talking to some other sho pp ers and we were just rea lly stru ck by how receptive people were and excited to have lh is empty store front filled and the though t or all th is traffic and how th is could jus t really ~dd som e neat momentum to the City of Englewood . We have been tal king with some of the area churches ... like Wellspring ... an d we know that they are working really hard to serve th is community and we would like to be a strategic partner In that effort . Thank you for yo ur time . Ma yor Woodward sa id than k you . Doug Cohn , an Englewood res ident , sa id my sister and I own Bonn ie Brae Hobby Shop at 3421 South Broadway ... just a few doo rs lo the north of where the ReNew store Is look ing at the Guys and Dolls , Artarama sp ace . I had a little trouble as I was read ing through the pa cket fi guring out what it was you guys were voting on. As I understand it, changing the zoning to allow these kinds of uses downtown ... wh at a great idea . As a bus iness guy right on th e block , I'm thi nking to myse lf ... well, let's see ... what would be the downs ide or having a brand new store on the block, wi th lots of different kinds of merchar Jise? Umm ... couldn 't think of one . What i5 the downs ide of having quite a few new people parking in my parking lo t? Umm ... couldn 't th ink of one . Seems li ke a good idea ... from one of the bus iness guys on the stree t. So , I recomm end that you go forth and you go forth quick ly and Invite these guys to open up the store and I think this is a pc~d . first step In changlog some or the bad policies that have developed over the laot qu ite a few ye ars . There will be ot her times to talk abo ut the • • • • • • Englewood City Counr.11 !'lay 17, 2010 Page 9 other steps th ~t I would encourage you to take , but this Is a great fi rst step . Thank you . Mayor Woodwar~ said thank you . Jo Ann Dransfeldt Fetters , a Ce ntenn ial res ident, said I stand be fore you representing a bu ll dlng ... 3431 SoJlh eroadway an1 the building ... and the spa ce next door, which was A & B Custom Fram ing . Our family as you ... l have told you b~fore, has owned this bs ildi ng since the 1920's when my grandfather, Hans Dransfeldt built it. We are very in tertsted in making th is a good place where people want to come . We want to be good ne ighbors and we waited other good nei ghbors around us . All of the stores that are filled ... feed on each other ... no matter what they are ... and it makes a good mix for retai l customers . We h~d . for many years , Other Mother's , wh ich was a consignmer.! store In th is space next door to where we are wanting to put our Yellow Rose and ii was very successful. We are very concemed ab out the vacant storefronts . They lead lo lost sales tax and one thing leads to another and we really want !o see all of the spaces filled with vibran t bus inesses . I think that would be something that you all would li ke as well. We are in favor of the ... Council Bill No . 11, authorizing amendments to Title 16 and we feel it wou ld be a £Cod thing for downtown Englewood. It Is a green bus iness that we want lo put in ... which Is the Yellow Rose consignment store and as th~se people have talked about too ... 11 keeps things out of the trash and it recycles and people can afford nice things without havi ng to spend a lot of money. So, we are very interested in encourag ing you to pass this amendment. Thank you very much . Ma yor Woodward said thank yo u. Aubrey Ai1 mona , a11 ::i ~l"\wooo resident , sa 1.:t I'm glad I took notes , because I didn 't re alize I was speak ing tonight. Steve and Michelle b01 " .,~ frnm Farker, Highlands Ran ch ... lhere was anothe r person from Littlelon ... and you would like to addre ss tr ,a worries of local businesses, but I never heard a whole lot of comment on worries of local res idents. And one of my concems is the neighborhood going to pot. Uc pun intended . There was laughter. But I think both of you sa id so mething about having small staff an~ : large core of volunteers and it would be nice If there were more local hiring . I don 't think that anyth ing can t e pu t into any of the amendments or anyth lng ... as far as ... required to do local hiring . But it would be nice that we coul d hire local . I recently got laid off from my po t ''ic n and I've lived here for fiv e years ·ind I don 't see a whole lot of incentive for employment in Englewood . So , that wou ld be nice . And what I have seen and what I have heard , the re is a generic defin lll on ... so there is no definition between high quality boutique and poor qual ity . There is no de~nit io n for quality, origin or denor,inalion . So , I wo uld like that to be taken into consideration ... that just because the defin ition is g~neri c ... a very nice presentation by one organization , tha t is respected, I bel ieve ... doesn 't mean that other bus inesses cou ld mo ve In und er the generic defin itio n. An d tha t is all I have . Mayor Woodward sa id thank you very much . Trac ie Rome ro, a Centen ,,i al 1c siden~ said I am here before you toda y because I am one of the partners in the Yellow Rose , as well 2s the property manag er fo r both the Odd Fello•vs Bu ild'ng in downtown Englewood and the Quadanska bu ild ;ng , which is th e location that we are hoping to put the Yellow Rose in . I agree with a lot of whe: Denver Christitr1 center is saying and I would also like to rei terate that the gentleman who spoke after Denve r Ch1 'stian ... his concerns about high quality and lo w qualily ... having been th ro ugh this ent ire process si nce the beJinnlng , I h~ve had the opportunity to sit in the Planning and Zoning meetings and one of the th in gs that they sa 1 j Is that 's one of the th inp .; they cannot put within the ir rul~s and reg ula tio ns ... was one of the th ings that was st: .led in there . They ca nn ot distingu ish between religion and not-re ligion and thos e ty pes cf things ... as understand it. I also would like to comm ent that Mr . McCasl ,n earlier stated tha t... he asked the questi on ... i l Planning and Zoning has go ne through this entire proctss 2nd they agreed that th is was lhe ... the route that they chose was the best route that they felt for the City . Ar,d I would l'~a to ... one ... thank the Plann ing and Zoning department for all the ir diligent and ha rd work , as well as the City Cour• ,ii mem bers ... because they did discuss a lot of th ings . And they did due diligence and th ey discussed , In "t P' , all of th e issues t~at I have baen hearing out on the street and talking lo other bus iness people ... lal~ing w,th •ha (;ity Council and :r,me cl the th iags tha t they are hearing as well. So , I feel lh•I th is Planning and Zoni ng depart men t really has put forth what t~ey fe el Is the bes t op:ion for the City , as wel l as we would also like to cont inua to move forward , I have not yet h<1ard any real negative pressure about not hav ing this amendmnnt...or, ur , sorry about that... BIii No . 11 move forward . Th ank you very much and I than k you very mu ch for all of your ti me . Mayo r Woodwa rd said thank you . Joh n Fetters 111 , a~ ,ntenn ial resident , said I would jl'st !Ike to comment , strictl y from a build ing owner standpoint. I th ink everyone else has presented th e bus iness owner sta ndpoint. I am co-owner of the locatio n Englewood City Counc il May 17 , 2010 Pag o 10 where the Ye : • Rose wou ld like to loc.:-te a build in g owned by our co rporat1 rn a fam ily corpo rat1on namer' Ouadanska L1m1ted I am also the Board of Directors Pre sident for the Odd Fellows Bu ildi ng pardon me , the Odd Fellows Building and Investment Company , which owns the bu1ld1ng next do or, whi ch ,s ad1acent to the vac ant lot tha t 1s on the corner of ... I think 11 is Girard and Broadwa y That lot has been vacani for som e 20 , 25 yea rs now ... since the bu1ld 1ng next door burned down What I hesi tat e to see , is a building that was bu ilt by my great-grandfather. Han s Dransfeldt , an d a co ali tion of comm unity the Odd Fellows Bui lding and In ves tment Company was put tog eth er by a co alit 1on of gent le men , bus 1nessme :i , loc al area guys m Englewood . and was buill for the pu rp ose of communi ty It r.as a dance hall a 3,000 square foot dance ha ll it was a gathering place 11 was a meet ing place And slowly over time , the demographic of Englewood has changed The meeting hall no lo nge r be came used The building was difficult 10 re nt the store fro nt s The Quadanska building next door , which was built by Hans Dran sfeld t, an d then added on tc by my grandfather Fred Dransfel dt , has suffered the same fate Ar:d r.0w we are faced with two out of the four storefronts co mp!elely vacan t The Ouad anska b1 1:ld1ng Is 100% va cant and has been smce Janua ry And the money for mamtenance and the money to cor 11mue the operation of the butld mg without tenan ts Is co ming directly out of my pocket as well as the famil y corpora tio n's po cket Just to let yo u all know ,n Janua ry of 2009 we were approached by a broke r by the nam e of Ed ge Mark Develo pment Th ey were interes ted in purchas,ng th e Odd Fell o ws Bu1 td1ng and th e Quad anska build in g nex t door They found out that we had ownership m both bu1ld1ngs and ap proached us They we re interested In movi ng the Walgreens from three blocks up the street on the eas~ side to this locatmn Which wou ld mean that they would be scraping th e buildings Wh ile th is is not an a1tra ctIve r ro pos,1I )n for my fami ly an especially hard thin g for me to think of from a busmess standpo in t we had to consider 11 The mon ey wc1s fairl y srgmf1cant that was offered fo r the two propert ies And we ultimately refused th e offers .. mostly based on the history that we have in Englewood And I would hke to see us be able to contin ue that his tory And ope ning up this .. th is Counci l 8 11111 .. sounds lik e the ladies of the Yetiow Ros e have kind of started a nood here with having the business of Re New come In and be co me a viable ca nd ida te tn the area as wel l I think I wou ld reall y like to see thi s pass I, for one , persona lly do not want to see our two bu1ldmgs , o:..ir • fami ly legacy I don 't wanl lo se e tha t dis appea r And I don 't th ink an y of yo u do ei th er An d I wou ld also like lo • say tha t Jerry s co mment earher about the surplus store was fabu lous very well pu t and I iterate that co mment as well Tha nk you Co un cil Mayor Woodward said th ank you Gwen Boons tra a Parker reside nt , said I am a graduate of Denver Christian but l don '! come here th is evening to speak abou t that I was employed at Denver Christian and I am a recen tl y elec ted Boa rd member and I ha"~n ·t bee n mvolved In thi s process . but I didn 't typ e th1s up the wa y ! am saying It. bu t l don 't kno w how anybody In here can't be exci te d ab ou t the poss1b 1lit1es of a thrift store to spark th e retail In Eng lewood and bene fll the communIt}' Lik e I said , I hav en't t-ieen 1nv olvr but I am Just thrilled with all the work lhat ev rvbody has done So, I co me to 11 fro m a little diffe rent point of , N J I work In the City of Englewood and I have some co ncerns I recently was made aware .. and maybe you wan clear this up , 1f I am 1nco rre ct of the proposed def1mt1ons for a second •h and , buy •ba c~. co nsIgnme '1t and thnft stores She dtd a good Job of expla1111 ng that R;1t I am l httlP bi t disturbed that th e de f1mt1on appe ar s to be discrnrnnating against non•prof1ts and "On-pro fit or anIza11o ns proh 1ll1 tmg the m from run ning these stores and using the prof its to ben efit a local communi ty Use,j clothing and furni ture store s are thnvmg tn this economy, be cause th ey appeal to a wide range of peorlr including env1ro nme ntahst. c.1t 1que deal er s and fam1 l1es on fixed incomes Res~arch shows that En gle wood•~ curren tly be nef111ng fro m re ta il sales generated by res~le , antique and thri ll ~tores So. I ha te lo say thi s but I can only co nclud e tha t you are m support of resate out lets. but not In support of non-profi ts benel11mg : ho1w tha t ,s not the ~ase Pe rsonall y 11 yo u close the doo r to non -pro fits ,n Englewood , I think 11 would b,, h, rd 10 am the support of such ::i large community hk e Denver Chn st1 an Schools an d my larg e communi ty chu rct1 Ple,1 f' consi der reY.ord1ng lor the zo ni ng , so that fam1h es that hve m Englewood an d the C;' ,' of Engl wood con bcne l 1t econom ,ca l1y and soci all y from a well .run prog ram th at enco urag .:s non .profits and the various m1 ms tnes an t' groups •hey supp ort Th ank you Mayor Woo dward said thank yoc Juhus Tabert a Gr.::eley resident , said I am ;:i commercial real es tate broker with ~perry Van Ness I was actu ally helping th e family William s Steve and Beth Willi ams acqumng th e building on 3473 South Br oadw ay about four years ag o We put the property und er co ntract with the family R1vk1n that ope rated Guys and Dolls there I 1tiInk for decaljes And a broker from I do n't re member where th e broker was from but R1 vkm 's • broke r had qLIte scme d1Hi cL ".es fmd1n g a bu yer for that particular bu1ld1ng It was an hIstoncal bu1ld1ng , 11 h.1 s a umque floor plan its on two stone s It has 6 000 squ ~re feet on th e ma m floor , 6 ,000 on the basemen t 1 500 on t e mezzanine which Is a very large retail space In today 's world It doesn't really work very well for th e • • • Englewood City Council May 17, 2010 Page 11 current , hip, so to say ... reta ll establishments . Which range , nor11ally , between 1,500 to 3,000 square feet. The larger retail spaces that ran ge from 30 ,000 to 50 ,000 square feet...big box usern ... will not fit in this particular building either, because th e concept will not work . Basically, the family from Greeley , the Wiiiiams ... private guys, with a small cha in, brought that bu ild ing, hoping their bus iness , the Artarama , the Artarama art store would actually thrive th are . And It turned out... over the las t four years ... it didn 't. They made good progress , they had , unfortunately , too high of an overheard and the profit margins were not really enough in order to support that particular bus iness . They had to close the store , the property went into forecl osure ... It is now owned by Lehman Brothe rs ... or whatever Is left from Lehman Brothers . The current retail environment doesn 't have enough pr0fit marg ins in order to support a bus iness on a square footage of like 13 ,000 square feet. That's why a non -profit organ ization like ReNew is , basically , an ideal tenant for that kind of space, because they have higher profit ma rg ins, they don 't have the overhead that a trad ition al business ... and they fill th is very vital gap in the new reta il world , wh ich cannot really be filled by any other business . Like the gentleman before sald ... he has two buildings vacant and th ey have been vacant sin ce Janua ry 1st. Th is building has be en vaca nt for a mini mum of six months . I wasn 't Invol ve d on the purchasing sldr , Will iams hired me to try to find a buyer on the se lling side . I market ed the building probably for over a ye _. and I generated , I think , three showings on the bu ilding . And those guys were local mom and pop stores that reflected on that square footage and could just not make that size work . Another problem is ... it Is a very long ... act ua lly, it is a more deep building than ii is wide . ii is a unique floor plan ... you cannot really split it. So , If you sa ld ... hey , maybe we can split in four separale units and lease it to differe nt ten ants ... the plan that It Is built on ... II just doesn 't lend Itself to do that. It's either 13 ,500 or it's vacant. And I think whatever ReNew likes to do with the bui ld ing , it is the ideal use for tha t. It'~ ... they are the guys that actually reflected on th is build ing ... was a year In working on ii and the only guys that actually had a viabl e concept to make this space work , generate retail dollars for the community ... a vital part for the neighborhood and to generate more traffic for this downtown environment. would like to ask you to pass this amendment in their favor and I than k you so much for listening . Good evening . Mayor Woodward said thank you . Colleen Mello , an Englewood resident , said I have lived in Englewood for over 15 ye ars . When I had moved into Englewood , we had severa l thrift stores in the area . One was located at Table Steaks , on e was at th e Dollar Store next to Country Buffet. There was the Goodwill and the Neighborly Thrift. For some reason , over th e pa st years , Englewood changed the zoning code for this area . I assume ii was to help im prove this area to make it look better for the res idents and the commun ity . Befo re you change the zoning ba ck to allow thrift , buy - ba ck , co nsignment, resa le ... I hope you will lo ok at the past and why they changed It to the new current laws . Some of my conc erns with allowing a thrift store Into the downtown area ... ls peopl e will drop off the ir junk and they wili ... when the y move or after a garage saie ... will it be in front of the store or will ii be in the bac k? How long will it be the re? Will it be the re long en ough so people can go through it, pick what they want and leave the rest? Leav ing us , the , esidents of Englewood , to walk down the street and again see the trash on th e street. Th fs area is important to me . I live within five blocks of this area . I alread y get the crowds from th e Gothic and from the Table Steaks le aving the ir trash on my yard and in the park ing lots across from Wells Fargo . Leaving , aga in, lor somebody el se to pick up the stuff. I would li ke to attra ct peop le who would bring bu si ness to help accent some of our existing store s In Englewood We have Ted 's, Kaufman 's, Wagner's and the Sta ined Gla ss Warehouse . Th c,e businesses have been here for many ye ars ... through pr,od times and through ba d. So, please look at what would be good for them . Don 't look at...that th ere's an empty buliding ... let's just fill ii tor the tax revenue . The economy will change and bus inesses will come ba ck to Englewood . And It has been a proven fact through many years . Please think lo ng -term and what do we want this area to look like . It it's a thrift store that wants to be in there , let's put them someplace other than ... In Englewood , rather than our main streets of downtown . More people Gell the ir high end items either on Cra ig's List , E-Bay or in a cons lgr ,ment store wilere they can make some mo ne y. The stuff that is be ing dropped off at the thrift stores are not that high end So , they will be going through a lot of stuff to try to fill a square footage spot. Will th is stuff be high end or will they cha ng e the ir way of thinking and put more stutr In there just to fill the square footage . That 's ii. Thank you . Mayor Woodward sa id than k you . Eileen Baranos ky , a Denver reside nt , said I own a cons ignment store in Englewood , and actually on Broadwav , about five blocks south of Hampden . I found out that Yellow Rose was loo~· 1 at going to zoning and havln~ the zon ing changed . And I th ink for Yellow Ros e It would be a great idea ... ave seen the ir sto re In Parker ... it is a great store . And it would be a nice place ... or, it would be nice to have them in downtown Englewood . One thing tha t .. and I also talked to Steve and Michelle from the thrift store . I have managed a couple of thrift stores Englewo od City Council May 17, 2010 Page 12 in California . I lov e thrift stores. But I am not sure if downtown Englewood Is the best place to have a th rift store . Whal I did when we opened Molly's Close t... I wen t around and I visited several consignment stores and actually put togethe r a resale guid e to promote each other. The one th ing that I found ... and also with resea rch with the ... with NARTS ... wh ich Is the Nationa l Association of Retail and Thrift Stores ... is that if you keep a store with in sa y 3600 square feel and less , It looks very like ... very much like a boutique . That's whether it's a thrm store or it's a consignment store . A good example of th is Is if you ... there 's SheShe 's thrift store on Dry Creek ard Un ivers ity . II ls a non -profit... for a charity . There Is 2lso the Women's League on Hampden and Happy Canyon . It's a thrift store ... non-profit. Both of them are excellent stores . They would look good In downtown Englewoo d. Why? Because of the size . Again, it is a smaller thrift store and it has that bou tiqu e flavor . I guess what I would look at, as City Coun cil ls ... whet do you want your downtown lo look like? Do you want II to look more like boutique stores? If you do, then it 's r,1ore lim iting the size ... not necessarily that ii is thrift , retail , re-use or whatever. It's ... what is the size of those typ,,s of stores? Because once you start going over that 3,600 square feel. .. is when ii starts to loolc like a th : 1ft store . Thank you . Mayor Woodward said thank you . • Gregory Ham , an unincorporated Arapahoe County res ident , said thw11< you for letting me address you and I will try to be brief. I am the Board President fer Denver Christ ian Sct ·ocls and you have heard a lot of testimony I th ink , tonight , about the positives of the uses th at are propo sed . I am really here lo more ... I wa nt to just po int out... mayb~ some more technical th ings about the defin itions that w~re prov ided . An ~ ma ybe a concept of allowing , sa .v consignment and second-hand and buy-bac k ... but not allowi ng thrift stores in the definition that the City Atto11,•y prov ided . You know the last definition for thrift stores , obvio usly, is defin ing the use ba sed on the operator , not on the use . It was primarily saying that an operation , operated by a non-profit is being defined as a thrift stme . And I kind of have an objection to th at. II doesn 't feel right to me that the use Is defined by the operator, nc ,t t y the actual use . And so I think yo u need to really consider carefully whether It is fair to not approve all us 11s and to maybe drop that use ou t... wh ic h I know maybe some of you have considered . To that end I wanted to oolnt out that there Is some Federal laws that perta in to some of these issues and ii is called the Religious Land LJ :;e and Institutionalized Person Act of 2000 ... lt is a Federal law. II pertains lo land use , as ii • relates to relig ious org.a!,at lons . And I will read from subparagraph b, se ction 2 ... il's called discriminat ;on and exclus ion ... It says one ... equal terms ... which I th ink is just talk ing about treating people the same . In other words ... If people are selling used goods, th ey are all sell in g used goods . And ii says 'no government shall impose or implement an y land use regulation in a man ner that treats a relig ious assembly or ins titution on less than equa l terms , with a non -religious assembly or lnstltut,on ·. Non-discrimination ... item two .. ."no government shall Impose or implement a land use regulation that discrim inates agai nst any assembly or Institution on the bas is of religion or religious denomination ". So , that clearl y ap pli es to land use ordinances . Now I po int th at ou t, but I would also say that the City of Englewood , and yo u as a City Council , have always sent a positive message to non-profits and I nbserved in the last Council meeting your patient attention to the Special Olympics and your supp ort of that. And , you know, incidentally , there is a thrift store in Pensacola that specially puts its proceeds for th e Special Olymp ics . So, we just really want to be part of your com mun ity. We are actually looki ng for the special kind of location that th is real estate prov ides . We would no t be inte rested in going by odd lots in that kind of a center. And , matter of fac t, our oth er altemat ivet would be to go into like a King Soopers ... anchored shopping center with an Office Depot... In Centennial , al Arapahoe and 1-25 . So , we are loo king for a retail location that we can have a special reta il nic he . And 11,at is what th is section of Broadway provides fo r us and that's what we are ... because of our special store , that we think is special . So , we would lo ve lo be part of the City of Eng lewood . Thank you . Mayor Woodward sa id thank you . Debi Kelle y, an Englewood reside nt , said I am our block cap\a,n and along with our friends on Humboldt we do ho st on e of the finest bl ock partie s in Englewood , so you •re all invited to come , of course . Many of you come . I am a Denver Ch ris tian alumn i and I live in Englewood , so th is is really a win-win for me ... I think . Th is aftern oon I went around to my neighbors with the petition and tried to present both sides ... some of the good , some of the ba d with havi ng a th rif sto re In Englewood . One hundred percent of them said great ... sign me up, I'm happ y to sig n that. We hav e a lot of vacanc ies in Englewood , th ey were happy to fill another vacancy . And hopefull y this can help bri ng some more bu si nesses into the area . So , I wanted to sha re that with you . And I thi nk that ra ga rd les s of what happens here ... Denver Christian will find a space for this store ... but , persona lly , I • want it in Englewood . I th ink ii would be great to fill one of the vacancie s. And also , th is store will hav e a dedicated customer base . The Denver Christ ian High Sc hool is just a little hit north of th e store . The two elementary sc ho ols are may~e seven or eight miles away . So , it is kind of conveniently locate d between them . • • • Eng lewood City Cou n cil May 17 , 2010 Pa ge 13 A lot of lhe families can easily go by the store , frequent!,, 10 be bringing in goods and shopping there . So , I hope we gel it he re Thank you Mayor Woodward said th an k you Steve Yates. an Eng lewood resident. said I have lived here for over 20 years I would !i ke to ercourage Counc tl 10 allow them to have that usage It Is good for lhe City from the slandpo1n1 II will bring acIIvIIy 10 that area .. the more act1v 1ty that we have man area , the more busme.;s , the more th in gs will be gomg on It's good for the community And 1f you 've ever looked around on that block across the street used to be a head shop l would say that th is Is a much better add1t1on 10 the community versus a closed down head shop An d it's . it's JUSl lhe right thmg o bring m ore business more act1vI1y into our area . Even 1f there Is ano ther thrift store down the street It's sti ll good for us That Is all I've got to say Mayor Woodward said thank you Elaine Hu lts, an Englewood res •dent. said I am really here th is evening because a le tter was sent to you by a friend of mme by the name of Beverly Cummins and we did this letter up on her behalf. but she 1s out of town and she asked me to come an1 read th is tonight I didn 't realize you were going to bnng th is open town meeting .. which I think is great and I think we need more of them So, let me please read this It should be In your packet. If 11 didn't get to you, II will get to you probaoly In th e week to come Mayor Woodward said II Is in our pc .. ket Ms Hults said she addressec1 It to each one of you 1nd1v1dually ln these financi al times, Englewood cannot attord to d1scnm 1n ate against any business venture There or~ peop!e who can afford c hampagne and those who ca n only a'fo •d beer We all hke a bargain and you "'Ill find people in both categories at thrift stores ergo consignment shops My mother, Vesta Frank , :Jnc. I owned and managed the MIm Flea Mart on Broadway for ten years , m the very vIcIm ty that Is currern,y JntJ,ar r:uestion for a consignment boutique Mather's specialty was refurh1shmg discarded old , used, brwsed ar "''t.Sed dolls for others to enioy She w a, extremely proud and had received Englewood 's Oldest Woman Mer~1 mt award. Location, local1 on, location Is the key to the succe ss of 2ny business The area currently m quesucn h::is always ae en the besI location m Eng le wood Englewood th is type of business wdl draw customers 10 the other businesses In tne same loca le With all th e empty stores on Broadway can we afford to d1scnmmate r I also want to po~ts cnpt from something of myself I li ved 1'1 F!onda for 26 years Although I hved m Broward County I wanted ta open a business 1n Dade County In one of the toughest counties to get a variance in wh1c •,as north M1amr Beach . I built a dry clean,ng p lant I had 10 go before the commissIcners in order to get my plant And I was able to change the atmosphere of a stnp sectIc, because my business came m there , which brought people coming back and forth to drop off, 10 deliver which I beheve th is type of a business w ill do also Encourage and im prove the other businesses around me So . you might really take this in to considera ti on And w need the revenue Thank you Mayor Woodward said thank you Sieve Scott , an Englewood resident said I Iust heard a lot of really good thing s I want you to know that I am an avid shopper at Goodwill Everythin g that we decorate In our buildings Is used merchandise But I would hke to encourage Denver Christian and some of the conce, ns shared with the c:-ther cItIzens All of our h1gh scrool studen ts have to do community service I would Iust hke ta really encourage you to have as formal as possible agrcemcrt v:1Ih our h1gr schoc1 that we could funnel our ~1-J', through your thmg Thpy could learn retail tney ca n learn c ustomer service they can team you know proper sales etiquette There Is lots or really great tl11n s If we look at the stat istics of Englewood ou· guys are 1n cons truc tion and our lad1~s are In 1cta1I So. 1f you are going 10 hve In Englewood . they are going to work m 1eta1I That is wh at they are gomg to do Wal-Mart our shoppers one ()four bigger employers Swedish /OU know. not too many of I e kids from Englewood H1gll School are going to end up working at Swedish , unless they are working In housekeeping You k now one of things tha t we want to do 1s improve the graduation rate of our high school and one of t~e thmgs that we can do that 1~ to give them a goa l There Is really someth ing that I can do I can own a ma a·I0 prt st,op like lhat businesses that vou people are proposing I would love for you to tease o ur ch ildren wi th a retail busme c.~ Just hke that Arid CJ, , one other comment and 11's spe c1 fl cally to you No. v. ~ I.av~ the best bl ock party Th ere was laughter On the corner of Fox and 1 uh s July 31st of this year so . co~r,e and puke your gu ts out in ou r bouncy castle . oka y Mayo r Woodward said 1f 11's July 31st he's havin g h1S party a httle bit early because 111s always t e first Tuesday of Augusl nat1011ally Steve Kl aron. a Llltleton res1C~nt. said I am tr" co-o wner or lhe Ouacker Gift Shop located at 3440 South Broadv-.a y which Is Jus t across the street and I..vo doors down from the thnft store and also across th e street and t\vo doors up from the Yellow Rc;se As I have listened to th e testimony , one of the thmgs that I found very mterestIn g 1s that we hear th e need for busmess and that Is very true You heard 111n the Study Session Jnd rs Englewoo d City Cou ncil May 17, 201 0 Page 14 Council mem bers you are spending a lo t of ti me and effort to try to find tlie right balance and what makes Eng le wood a better place It 1s very clear to me tha t a boutique type store such as the Yellow Rose 1s a pertecl spot al ong what I th ink of as part of our block And with a thrift store I love lhe enthusiasm and love the comm1tmen1 but one of 1he things with two years of research 1s 1t is very important to see that the co mmi tm ent 1s put forth You talked Steve, ab out a ten ye ar lease now , one of the concerns that I have with a 13 ,500 square fo ot retail c:par;e tr.at backs up to a wonderful parking lot that Council can se ll as soon as somebody want s to !Juy 11 That 1s a concern and I don't know 1i you are aware of that At S300 000 to a m1ll1on dollars per year, wIlh an average sale of S20 to S25 you are looking al 50 plus sales per day every day, seven days a week And I know you won't be open on Sundays But It Is very important 10 consider what will happen and Council has to consider what will happen with a space such as that, 1f all the parking 1s contained 10 the sireet And how w1U the Denver Christian com ,lunlly who w hen Steve first came to the BID its a separate non-profit from Dem,1'!r Christia n's non-pru .-t It Is one and the same? Okay So , 11 1s very im portant that t e commItment as the concerned citizens have vo ice-d that that commitment .. not only to ten years of being there but lhe changes th al will happen aro· :nd I,,,, keep you here, keep you vibrant and keep you lo your commitment to your mIssIon And I guess that Is my ~1ggest challen ge that it's d1tt1cul t to enforce that hrough zoning So, 1 am pu tt ing that back on the Denver Christian commun ity that don 't dIsappoIn t us We plan to have our ducks ou t here for a long tong tu..,e 3nd we wa n good neighbors too f'::>, thank you very much Mayor Woortward said thank you M1ka ll a Grafft, a Castle Rock resident. said l grew up In Denver Chnslla:1 and I am an alumm I al&v went back and ta ught for a shrrt w hile arid als o coached sports there , so I ha ve a long history with them and I reall y believe in them and I th ink they are wonderful Some of my history Is , I grew up In a business called Seasons and 11 was a home decor business that was throughout Colorado We were m Sou thgle nn Mall for awh ile and then we did Christmas shops . ki nda all throughout Colorado Cherry Creek Mall, Park Meadows different ones And our Chnstmas shops were at least i0,000 sc.i~~re feet very large ones And I know one of th e concerns from one of th e gals w as th al a boutique ne ds to be abou t 3 300 square feet or smaller b ut I def1mtely 0I5agree with that In our shop we had a lot of consignment but we also had a lot of high end stuff and we were very well known in the area for being a very high end Chri stmas store In sett mg up the place . you can def1ni ely set It up to more bou tique style and very high end We now have just one Seasons . which ts In downtown Lltllelon In the old Coors building down there And though It Is not extremely huge It Is also set up very high end and Is done re ally well and I think that that Is key m this ventu re Is to make 11 very high end and •Y wP!l laid out The great thmg t1bouf Denver Chnst1an Is we are such a huge community and such wonderful .. ,,c: that we all come together and make that happen And we ore very good Denver Christian tends to be ,ne Du,ch and they are very clean A Joke ,n my fam ily Is that th ey would sweep the streets and I lived m the NetherlanCs and saw them sweep the streets So. I can honestly say that they are very good about keeping It clean and nice and well organized And I know that wi th this venture they would do th at and that with all the talents that we have It would be J JS! an amaz in g asset to your community I think you would be very pleased with what we can do with It and I lhmk that 1t Is a unique bu1ld 1ng that Is gomg to take a unique type of store and I 1-.no·✓, we c n do that So . tha n,.. }OU Mayor Woodward said 1han1r you Mayor W oodward smd I tlad a fr1P:1d whose oaughter went 10 Dcriv~r Ch nst1an anc1 she was very clean to o so There was laughter Ma yor W oodward asked 1f there wa s anyone else wh o wanted to speak during th e Pubhc Hearing There was no one May or Wood wa rd r aid I will entertain a mol1on to close the Pubhc Hea11 '1 g COUN CIL MEMBER WI LSON MOVED, AN D CO UNCIL M EM BER GIL LIT SECOND ED , TO CLO SE THE PUBLIC H !=ARI NG TO GATHER INPUT ON COUNCIL B ILL NO , 11 , AUTHORIZING AMENDME NTS TO TITLE 16 : UN IFIED DEVEL OPMENT CODE TO PERMIT BUY-B A CK , ~t:COND -HAND. THR IFT AN D CONS IGNM ENT USES AS US ES-BY -RIGHT IN THE MU-B -1 ZO NE DISTRICT, Mayor Woodward askeu 1f th ere were any co, ments There were none Vote res ults : • • • • • • Englewood Ci ty Counc i l May 17 , 2010 Page 15 Ayes Councll Memoers Penn . McCashn . Wilson . Woodward Jeffersor Olson , G1lh1 Na ys None Motion earned and ihe public he anng closed Ma yo r Woodward said I would like to open 1t up to Council 1r you have any comments at th is time Agam no de c1s1ons are to be made tonight But are the re an y commt!nts or d1scuss1on? Council Member Jefferson said I Just want to thank everybody for coming down and sharing the r thought~ know ti 1s sort of frustrating that we don 't follow 11 up with some sort of vote or . you know , some:h 1ng to end the evenin g or:, but we appreciate all of your in put Council Member Wi lson said a lot 10 think about so thank you Co unci l Member McCasl m said very mformat1ve Thank you Cpcmed some eyes Co uncil Member Olson said I also wanted to JUS I let you know that we have gotten qu ite a number of e-mails and from our own res idents So , not that 1 know that some of you tonight were Engi,..wood residen ts , but it's rea lly important that we hear Englewood cI 1Izens so , res idents of the City , so those of you who have friends and neighbors can we still have them send stuff 1n? What Is the protocol? Ma yor Woodward said 1f Dan would I was gomg to ask Dan to erola1n Several Council members spoke at once Council Member Olson satd that Is my follow -up question Is 'Nhat Is ouI protocol from here ? But anyway , tliank you to those who did present tonight It was very helpful Ma yor Woodward sai d Dan , do you wan: to go ahead and C ity Allorney Brotzman said In the past , what you wou ld ha ve heard at a Pubhc Hearing 1s it's a Pubhc Hearing you base your entire decision on the ev1dence and re all y when your neighbors came to you or peop le c :i me to you ycu would say Im sorry we had a Public Hea ring and ,rs like being m a trn:1I 1n a coun and I have to base my decision on what was presen ted here Now I als o want to be practical but we hve In an electronic age that people are sending In e-mails Now, you have the option of re -o pening the Pubhc Hearmg 1f you get some evidence or somebody sen1s something th at you really want to base yo u r dec1sIon "" tha t you didn't have before but. you are gomg to ba:.e your dec1s1on on what was done here ton ight I a. ..~. since one of th e issues that we have is there Is a pubhc commt:nt pe riod again , before you actually make you r decision I assume some people are goi ng to lalk at that as well Th ose conversa11ons . further e-m ai l conversa tions trea t th os e not as evidence , but people making argument based on the evidence you were given here to night I would encourage you , agam , while they are your constituents and wh ile you get to communicate with yo ur constituents privately I would say 1f you are going to make th is as public as possible share th ose with Council le l us see them So . 1f you are gettmg e-mails and you wou ld hke to share them w ith the rest of Counc1L we can incorporate th ose m the pac.ket as well Counc il Member Olson said thats helpful thank you Mayor W oodward said oka~ And JL!St to Just to ven fy th at 1f 1f we were to open re -open the Publtc He aring a our next meeting that would mean that we would not vote on 11 for two weeks after that because we don't vote on well . we don l take a motion Cit y Att orney Brotzman sa,1.1 on the sarne nigh t as the Pubhc Hean ng Mayor W oodward said on the same night as th P Public Heanng so that Is understood Mayor W oodward said I w ould hke to thank you all for commg out tonig ht and for all I e correspondence from everyo ne the busine ss community, friends and ever)•thmg It was very Interes tm _ Rig ht before I left tonight or this afternoo n there was more so. I know we have more to put m th e packet An d mc,dentally I think when Ms Langon said last week that the cu 1-off tIr 1e when she sa id cut-off time , I believe what she was refemng lo was the cut -off time to get the ,n;,ienals mto Lur packets so they could e delivered on Thursday That was the only cul-off time So . what cam :~ tn after 5 00 o'clock tonight Is sllll good 11 Ordinances, Resol u tion and Motions (a) A pproval of Ordinances on First Reading Englewood City Council May 17 , 2010 Page 16 (IJ Depuly Chief of Po lice Collins presented a recommendation from the Police Department to adopt a 8111 for an Ordinance au thorizing an Inte rgovernmental Agreement regarding the applic2I,on fo 1 and acceptance of a 20 10 Edward Byrne Justice Ass1sIance Gran! (JAG) Program Award (Gran! No 2o·0-H4990-CO-DJ ) He sa id good evening In the latler part of Apr;I we , once again , discovered Iha! the Bureau of Justice Assistance has awarded us S30 ,608 .00 The award is based upon a successful appl1cc1t1on and this process 1s part of the applica tion So , what we are asking 1s that C'1uncil adopt a bill for an ordinance accepting !he Justice Ass1s1ance Grant We ,mend to utilize that money for the purpose of purchasing a new CAD server. The one that we currently have is aboul s,x ye ars old and they generally have a lifespan of abou t three to four years . And , according to Informa tion Technology, we are on borrowe d tim e. So th is mo ney came al a very go od time for us The antic,paled price of the entire proiect Is about S3 7,000 00 . Anything over and above !he gra nl award will be covered by Information Tech nology anc< the network develo pment bud get So , if you have any question s, I'd be more than glad to answer them Mayor Woocwa rd a~1 .,...1 if the rf' were any quest ions . Ther~ were none COUNCIL MEMBER McCASLIN MOVE D, AN D CO UNCIi . MEMBE R PENN SE CO NDE D, TO AP PROVE AGENDA ITEM 11 (a) (i ) • COUNCIL BILL NO .12 COU NCIL BILL NO 12 , INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER McCAS LIN A BILL FOR AN ORDI NANCE AUTHURIZING AN INTE RGOVER NM ENTAL AGREE MENT REGARD ING THE APP LI CA TION F()" AND ACCEPTANCE OF A 2010 EDWARD BYR NE JUSTICE ASSISTA NCE GRANT (JAG) PROGRAM AWARD -2010 -H4990-CO-DJ Mayo r Woodward asked 1f there was any d1scuss1on Mayor w, .1dward sa id I'd Just lik e to say great J0b , again , John You've done us well or they are ve ·y hel pf ul Anyl h1ng else? Council Mem bt : ()Ison said keep the grants coming Vote res ult s : ,e JAG grants and Ay es Council Members Penn . McCash n, Wilson , Woodward, Jefferson, Olso n. G1ll 11 Nay s None Moti on cam eo 1b1 Approval of Ord1nc3nces on Second Re dding There were no add1 1mnal items c,ubm1ttcd lor appro,.·11 on second reading (See Agenda Item 9. Consf"nt Agenda ) (c) R~solu !l ons and Motion s Tt,ere were no resolutions or mot1ons subrrn tt ed for ap proval 12 Ge ne ra l Discussion (a) Mayor's Choice • • (1) Mayor Woodward said I wo uld hke to address Ms Reinhold wha t she bro ugh t up abou t landfills The first item 1s that we don 't hav e any landfil ls in the C ity of Engl P.wood What you ma y be • thinking of 1s the landf ill ac ross Santa Fe , which 1s 1n the City of Shendan There 1s property that we own that has had landf ill on 11 It 1s leased und er a lo ng term lease to a deve lop er that has developed the Tar J~t the Cost c-:i, and so me of the thin gs over there So , with regard to that lan dfill , and I'm spe aking to til e 'Jest of my • • • Englewood City Counci l May 17 , 2010 Page 17 knowledge , I am not aware of any other landfills that have not been cleaned that are releasing methane gas Now, we have a Wastewater Treatment pla nt that does re lease methane gas. And we have ... and this was some time ago , we attempted lo utilize that for electrical purposes , and fou nd ... Stu . of course, isn 't here or he'd tel l us the chemical breakdown ... there was ... one of the chemicals was too high and it was not good for the electrical com ponents of what was working . However, the y are using some of that meth an e for the heating of the Serv iC enter, which is right next door to the Wastewater Treatment Plant, and I don't know if we are using any of it for the actual Wastewater Treatment Plan t, but there is a cert ain amount that does have to be burnt off So , hopefully that an swers that que st ion . If you have more , I'd be more than hap py to ta lk to you afterwards Ms. Re inhold spoke from the aud ience . (Some of her comments are inaudible.) How do I ge t in touch wi th these people ' Cou ld I leave you this art icle on how ... ? Mayor Woodward sa id you certainly may , if you want to give ii to the City Clerk . Ag ain, Ms. Re inh o ld spoke from the audience , And also, what is En glewood's ... Mayor Woodward responded we do no t have in cine rat ors It 1s taken to a waste d1spo sa l sp ot , which the n ii is moved to a region a l landfill. Speaking from the aud ience , Ms Reinhold asked is that the one in Sher idan . Mayor Woodward and Council Me mber Penn replied no . Mayor Woodward said no , that's been closed for years . Ms . Reinhold spoke from the au dience , but it was 1naud1ble Mayor Woodward said no , no , no . It's been closed for many, many , many years. lvis Reinhold's response was inaudible . Mayor Woodward said lhP.y ;,,:kit up and take it over to the Waste Ma nagement transfer stat ion over on Un ion and then ii is all moved out to the la ndfill Ms. Reinhold's response was in aud ible . Ma yor Woodward said usually we don 't hav e a dialogu e. You've presented , so I've answered and you can't be heard by the speakers, so I'd be more thao happy to talk to you afterwa1d~ and get some of these answers for you Ms Re inhold'~ ·es~onse was inaudible . ~u) Ma yo r Woodwa rd said and also , I would hke to 111~:,k Jerry fGr coming to mght I appreciate him mentioning tha t I was there vol unteering fo r the Olympic site I was on ly th ere for a short, very short pcnod of time, because I had another engagement, the Eng IP.wood Liens Jerry had in formed me that the Lions had sent him to so me national meet...back in ... l bel ieve it was 1991 So , tha t was good . I th ink , from what I've he ard, the kids had a great time and the adults that were there , and that it was very much a success . (1i1) Hearing tonight. Mayor Woodward said I did want to thank all of the people that did come for the Public (1v) Mayor Woodwaro said with regard to the Citizen of the Ye ar, that is .. that has been selected back in , I believe it was February .. Dr. Roscoe Davidson who had worked with the school system for as the :;upen11tende nt for ~8 ye ars and 11 was a very enterta imng and fun celebration , I would say . Very de served Very well attended by colleagues and community and former employees with lots to sa• about him And Jerry had asked about selecllng a Ci tizen of the Year That is . th e community .. I believe tha., Is what he was talking about T he first time that was brought up .it was brought up by Rick This year, when we were doing the selection of th e C1t1zen of the Year , and it 1s something that we will discuss prior to next year doing the selection of the C1t1zen of the Year , so that 1s the way that we had left that ;;nd that's what we werP. going to do So I think that everybody's aware of that (v) Mayor Woodward said on Saturday , the ribb on cutting , for the Comm unity for the Com munity Garden happened at Danmouth and Inca , basically Council ~ember Wilson said Fox May or Woodward said Fcx, okay Jill , great JOb Council Member Wilson said thank you Ma yor Woodward said I th ink you 've been working on th is for a long 11me with di ffere nt gIoups and probably some longer than some of the groups have been involved . So , congratulations on this feat The success and the excitement that is there (v1) Mayor Woodward said I do want to mention that there 1s a new restaurant going 1n where the Spicy Pickle was It is going .. I just talked to one of the workers , who happe ns to be a volunteer aod that would be right at Floyd and Broadway T.,is Is a restaurant tha t doesn't have set prices, you pay what you can afford or desire to pay. An:J 1f you can't afford , you don't pay There is a resta ura nt up on Colfax , that has been there for a number of years now, that has been featured on NBC News CBS News I believe 11 has als o been featured 1n Newsweek and . 1t serves soup, salad and p1ua . the one up on Colfax . The volunteer was telling me the same thing . I did get a call or an email from the owner and I hope to hear from her in the next day or two and find out more in for mat ion about ,t Cou nci l Member Wilson said I think the name of 11 is th e SAME Mayor Woodward said the SAME as the one up on Colfax Council Member Wilso n said nght. Mayor Englewood Ci ty Co un c il May 17 , 2010 Pag e 18 Woodward sa id that's cor rect I can 't remember what that stand for Counci l Membe r Wilson sa id I can \ either Ma yor Woodward sa id smart ? Counci l Member Wil son sa1,j sustainable 7 It's so all pe ople can eat Mayo• Woodward sa id aka) (v,i) Ma yor Woodward said also , I want to bring up I want to hand these out Council Member Jefferson said mayoe to save some paµer I shou 11 have d1s1 nbuted mme Ma yor Woodward said this 1s Co lorado Municipal League Confe rence to be held in Breckenridge on June 22 through the 25 th There 1s a tota l fee of S906 00 In the past, I think we've pa id . in the past couple of years few years maybe , I know that I've attended that I've either pa id 11 myself o• paid out of partially my funds and partially d1scret1onary funds I believe I'd hke to get 3 motion for approval and I ~eheve that the, ,'s others that are here that are also looking at going · that 1s Joe and Bob and . Linda .. I don 't know if you a,e going Council Member JeHerson said I don 't know if 11 has my name on n Does 1t have J11':"''s name on tt? He asked 1s there another copy for Linda , by chance? I don 't know we were Just kind of whispering Mayor Woodward said well , did Linda apply? Council Me n ber Olson said you know what ? I thought I did , but th is ,s good because I can't go Mr Jefferson sa id okay a good reason not to have ,t Ms Olson said that ,s good Mayor W oodwa rd said okay I'm looking for a motion for approval This 1s a part of the City Council's budget It was inclu ded ,n the budget I w,11 say again that the budget for 2010 is less than the budget for 2009 And after th is, there 1s still bud geted funds for the National League of Cilh!S Con fcrenr that will be held 1n Denver this year Council Me mb er Jefferson sa id are you asking for a mo tion for your ? May:--r Woodward said I'm askmg for all th ree to take all three at one time , ,r that ,s okay w,th everybody? COUNCIL MEMBER WILSON MOVED , AND COUN CIL MEMBER OLSON SE CONDED , TO APPROVE EXPENSES FOR COUNCIL MEMBER JEFFERSON , COUNCIL MEMBER McCASLIN AND MAYOR WOODWARD TO ATTEND THE CML CONFERENCE IN B~ECKENRIDG E. Mayo r Woodward as ke d if there was any d1scuss 1on Co uncil Me mber Gilht said I have a sugges tion We Just sent a couple of you a cnuple of us went to Washington D C and there was so me concern about the cos 1 of that and we wen t ahead and did 1t an yw ay don't have a prob lem with the reg1strat1on and us usmg d1scret1onary funds , but we all know how our budget 1s s1 t!ln~ righ t now and 11 1s not s1tt1ng well We and I hear that we have 1t budgeted , but we als o kn ow that JUSI because 1t 1s budgeted , doesn't mean that we have to spend 11 especially in the ligh t that we might have to make some cuts later on 1f the funds continue 1n the same trend they are I would ask this Council and those going thal rec onsid er the spending I'm conc ern ed abou t whe re we are at We saw th e graph I mean we s~w what 1s gomg on We 're shll not g1v1ng our emp lo yee:s ra ises We're still no t do ing th e thmg s that we ne ed to for our employees If we could all JUS I maybe senj one person who could report back If we co uld , at all , not spe nd the mo ne y when we are 1n a hurting posi ti on. It 1us 1 doesn 't ma ke sense Espec ially yeah . we 're talking ab ou t S90 6 00 a perso n 11 ,sn ·t you know wh en you re talking m,lh ons of dollars of your budget and 11 doesn't seeni a lo l but. S900 00 could rotenllally you know help an em ployee ou t or help a couple of employees ou t It Jus t seems tha t where we are at financi ally 1t JUSt seems 11 1s a hard pill fc me to swallow I will be voting no • • Council Member Jefferson said l apprec1a 1e your comments and I certainly und ers ta,,d whe re you are com1r1g from As a person Y-ho 1s reques ting some fundmg here I would like o talk a httle b11 abou t 11 Like I said I do app rec iate the s1 1uu1 1on that we are m ftn ?n cta lly I do th ink that there 1s Ju st a lo t of value lo sending people certainly more than on e repres entati ve up to CML Con fer ence~ I think the doll ar amo unt. as you stat ed, 1s JUS t no t a big enough portion of th e bud get my th oug ht 1s actually that poli cy dec ision s be ing made here , cumulativel y ove r the life of ea ch of Jr terms . wil l cenam ly, m my mm d. make revenue s vanate by more than a few hundre d dollar,; Fo r exan1p1e, I generally allt:nd so me of the att orney session s at CrvL and you kno w, 1 think J,m and Bob and some of them , they usually attend the regular sessions Some of ,e topics for d1scu ss 1on at the att orne y se ssio ns are 519 n co de issues whi ch I thought wa s real ly t ,nely whi ch was one of the 0 nes tha t really rna de me iu mp and say okay I need to be at th is Con ference But I cert ainly understand where you are coming fro m That be in g said I would lik e to maybe amend my request and remove the stipend for meals and mileage to decrease my r~quest by S278 00 And so 1f I can make an amendme nt to amend my • reque sl to now be S644 73 to co ver my regi strati on and th e todg1n g on ly And I enco urage ot hers , Coun cil people , alt ho ugh I wi ll be supporting anybody wh o choo ses to go to en coura ge them lo save a few buck s here to o • • • Engl ewood City Council May 17 , 201 0 Pa g e 19 Mayor Woodward saia .hank yo u Joe Any other comments? Mayor Woodward said I appreciate what you have done Joe on Jhal and I am not going to reduce mine I am going to a meeting . a First-Ti"' Cities Steering Committee meeting in Dallas , Texas in June. totally 100% at my expense I have gone to CML ,n the pa st . totally at my expense . Again , I agree with you there's great value ,n this and last year, the re was press that came forward and I think it was Channel 9 ... it was very ,nterestmg ... and then there was some articles m the Denver Post and two days laler there ... after the conference , ttiere was a Denver Post editor,al that po inted out the value of Colorado Municipal League and 1: at they supported that Conference. I can speak for ... certa ,nly Bob and I, who have atte nded it..and I believe Joe loo , but I ha ven I seen Joe as much ... but I ca n certainly say that we have been attending the workshops. In fact , everyday , I don 't think there is anything that we don·, attend . I mean as far as workshops ... and there are workshops that overlap and I know Bob and I try and attend different th ings typically so we can hit. dunng any given hour. different items So, I appreciate your willingness to do that . Counci l Member Jeffersvn said and t19ain, I :1..st 'Nanted to reiterate that , generally , I am in support of those 1ha1 want Jo go and I certainly understand your situ ati on Like you , I th ink ... you know . I paid the lodging and whatnot out of my own pocket last year at CML, so I certainly undersland where you are coming from on that Mayor Woodward asked if there was any further d1scuss1on . There was none Vot e result s: Ayes Council Members Penn . Mccaslin, Wilson , Woodward , Jefferson. Olson Nays : Counc il Member G,11,t Motion earned (b) Council Members· Choice (1) Council Member G1ll1t He said thank you Mr Mayor I want to thank all of those who C0'1L for the Public Hear,ng We had great. great input I also appreciate the owner of the property It was great 1niormat1on as well I'm excited to see w ere we go with this and I appreci ate you all for coming 2 He said last F,iday night I had the opportunity to do a r,de-a-long ,11111 c,ur Ftre Department What a thr,11 would have paid to have that experience That was awesome. Ther< is nothing hke nding down the road 100 miles an hour 1n a fire truck So , I was pretty excited And you get a ~reat mea l with 1t So , those folks are JUSt wonderful Mr Mayor, please let the Chief know that I greatly apprec,.,,e they were extremely kind and warm and welcommg And I encourage all of Council to go One of the quesllons the y asked me was why doesn 't other Councilmen co me? I sa td well I'd let th em know that they are mvued Mayor Woodward said frank ly I d ~n 't know that we could do fire trucks , and I oon't want to do ambulances Council Member Gilh t said I got 11 from Randy that we could do that . so t was all In 3 He said also . Jerry Furman .. I know that he 1s gone but Mr Mayor , thank you for clari fying th at nex1 vear we are gomg to do something fun and new and hopefully hear from our community on the C1t1zen of the Year 4. He said a reminder for those that are IOl\kmg ~t Boards and Comm1ss1ons .. I know that we have 1nterv1ews ,::om1ng up and I'm excited to see some new !:-:Ks come ou t and apply for some of those Boards and Comm1ss1ons Thank you very much (11) Council Me mber Olson Englewood City Council May 17 , 201 0 Page 20 1 She said I want to thank those loo for coming for lhe Public Hearing tonight Gosh, th is ,s great to have so much energy all around busmess and renovation of Englewood S;i, th is will be great 1n terms of c lar1 fy1 ng I th ink, fo r us and helping us move forward 2 She said the second thmg l wanted to say was Heather Utrata, 1s tl iat th e correc t wJy to sa y her name. from Parks and Rec? If you saw on the front page of the spans sec ,on , I bel,e,e th is m orning although I got up way too earl y and didn't look at the pa per but she's our owr ':nglewood em pl oyee who w on the Colfax Marathon for th e SP.t end year 1n a ro.v So, congratu lat 1on s to he r She d10 1t m 3 hours and 4 mi nut es and beat her time from last year So congratulatro ns Mayor Wood1•• j sa1d you k 10w, and sh e had nev er run a m arathon proc r to last year Council Member O ls0n said yeah , so I need to get her as my 1ramer There was laughter 3 She sa id the Olymp ic s was a blast tu do the Special O lympics with Jerry I have some really fun pi c tures on my phon e whic h showin g some great poses But that was great fun and I en courage anybod y else to do tha t ne xt year 4 She said th e Community Garden was als o a very big highlight for me , Jill , lo watch the fru,t,on of a lot of ha rd work that yo u and many othe rs put mt o it To celebrate then on Sa1urday mornmg was really wonderful I r:an 't wait to see how things ketp growing there and how man y more we can se t up throughout the City 1n they, .rs to come 5 She said I Just want to remind people that the nt:xt meeting is at the Malley Center and 11 1s an unusual mee ting I don't know if you were planr11ng to sa y a httle bit more about that. but its I can go ahead ? It's a communny meeting It 1s not a normal Stud y Session It 1s actuall y an open meeting whe re we'll have some dialogue with folks from anywhere that come, but I'm pan1cularly mv rtmg folks from D1stnc1 2 to come becausP. we are goi ng to ta lk about 1he Swedis h Med,,cal ancl ge t an update on what's been happening with th e dialogue ' there. as we!I as med ical marijuana and how 1~at might impact some of that area But I thmk the agenda 1s still being worked out from lhe folks who do that tn ·, week So come on out for that 11 you really care about Englewood And that's II Than ks Mayor Wood ward said than k yo u Lin da (rn) Cou ncil Member Jefferson sa id again I just wan ted to thrmk everyone for comm g out and 91vmg their comment s at the Pubhc Heann g and that's all I ha ve Mayor WoorJ war J said than ks {cv) Council Me~ber ,-Jenn 1 He said oh thanks Golly 11 was ,eaUy fun to be at the Special Olympics Linda (hd really w ell on her one even t that she competed 1n . so con3ratulat1ons Linda on bemg a charr,pion Council Member Jlson said setting up a ten t Council M:mber P1~11n said I know Teri! expen 2 He said Com murnty Garden Super JOb KEB, Cultural Ar.s I went by Sunda y aft er everybody wa s wc.1k1ng on 1t and all at the volui1teer:; need to be congratula ted so hopefully that continues to go 3 HL' sa id you kr.o w the Citi zen of the' ear Don't wait If you ha ve people th at yo u v,rould like to m aybe send the little names 1n , sen d th em Iv Jim don't se nd them to me Le l him know wh C'I th ey are • • 4 He sa1r. Sunday Don 't we have something rea lly special Sunday? Englewood Love Englewood High School sta dium G:✓e me ::i time Someone spoke from the aud ience say in g 10 00 Council Member Penn said 10 00 1n the mormng So, 11 snould be 111s something di fferent that has not happened 1n the City of Englewood • for a long ti me So. hopefully we ca n do th at • • • Englewood Ci ty Council May 17 , 2010 Page 21 5. He saIt instea d of me tra,ps,ng off I'm go•ng . J have D,stnct 3 meetings and I'll give you dates and I'll follcv • this up Anybody ,s Inv1ted to go to D,stnct 3 I'd like to know any of the Council members, 1f you 'd like to go please let me know so I know they'll all be posted anyway , so ,t doesn't matter June 2nd , I'll be at Duncan Park . June 15th, I'll be at Cherrelyn . July 17th , I'll be at Englewood Hig h School July 20 th, I'll be at Maddox And August 17th. I'll be at Roscoe Davidson Ad i• , strat,on Bu ilding for chats with District 3 people. I encourage anybody that would like to come over and 10I n me ;lease do that so we can ha ve that 6 He sa id I don'I have the address and I apologize. June 8th , I'm having a meeting with all of the religious yroups in Englewood . I Inv11e any of you wh o would like to come and chat wi th us It is at 11 ·oo . Wha t's the address of your bu ildi ng ? On Broadwa y The one on tr,e second floor Someone spoke from the audience saying 59 West Floyd Council Member Penn repeated 59 West Floyd . It is just kind of an open dialogue to get some inform at,on about what's happening m the rel igious groups around Englewood , how the Ci ty and the religious groups can work together and I'm Ju st out looking for data That's all I'm do ing . Mayor Woodward aski,d Randy , what was the date on that Council Mem er Penn replied Tuesday, June 8th , 11 .00 . I w,11 send Iha, ou t to everybody And again , 1f it needs to be posted . I'll make sure that it's posted Other than that, I'm not daing anything Thank you Mayor Woodward said thank you Randy . (v ) Council Member Mccaslin· He said I would like to address the Citizen of the Year Anyone who att ended tha t would have really app reciated and realized wh y Or Oavrdson received the award . Even though he 1s not a ci tize n, he has done more than a lot of c1t1zens here in Englewood ever did for , you know , where they live I mean , he was here , what . 20 some years It was 1u st unbelievable You have got to attend something like this that really show what peop le give back to Eng lewood I was kind of offended when I heard some people were upset because he was n't a resident , but wha t he gave to th is co mmunity , by far , outrea ches a lo t of what our own residents have done fo r the City of Eng lewood 2 He sai d I also attended the Energy Conservation Fair Mike put in a lot of time He was putt ing up billboards and all kin ds of stuff wh en I showed up It was too bad 11 was a rainy nig h! and not a lot of attendance , but we had Xce l In fa ct, I JUS I signed up for an energy audit for 120 bucks for what do you get? The blowing I mean they blow arr mto all of yo ur doors and see where your le aks are And then I d1d . als o, th e I thin k 11 1s the rad1at1on But that was really a cool fair And 111s to o bad 1l wa sn't pubhc1zed a httle bit more and bett er allended 3 He said I think DUG we ta !ked about them They Just . th ey were on Channel 9 News torn ght today Ce lebrati ng the ir 25th year and 11 was reall y cool JUS1 to know thn t we v·e re cne of th eir pro 1ects So. I didn 't know 1f you were going to talll. about ,t out I would say something (v1 ) Coun cil Member Wdso., She sa ,d okay Bob said everything I wanted to There was laughter I.I r McCasl11 said I'm sorry Ma yor Woodward said Ji ll wh at ,s DUG's pro,0 ct of the year ? Ms Wilson said ! m sorry? Ma /Or Woodward what was DUG s proiect of the year? Counc il MLm ber Wilson said ou r garden C Jun c1I Member Pen n said good lead tn Ms Wilson sa ,d ti1 ey are ce le brat ing thei r 100th garder. th is ye ar that they have done m the Denver Metro area The y are a huge , huge group at people and volunte ers :hat really 1ust the y have the footprint , you JU Ui follow 11 And they were a great, great help to us ,n ge tti ng our garden going along with financ,ol help w11h their grant So . II wa s a lot of fun , ,ts go,ng lo be a lot of fun We've started plan lIng . Every tim e I go by there there 1s someone at th e ga rde n le nding thetr plot It makes my ht.an sing It 1s Just th e peop le you get to meet and the peop le I have neve r met before and ti truly 1s a girt So . I am very exc ite d abou t that for th e summer ' 2 She said I did go to th e Susta 1n ab1 li ly Energy Sus ta ,nabillly Fair and , I th ink , had it had maybe a htlle bit rnore pub hc1 ty more would have come But 1hen 11 was .1 hombl t night so ,t 1s hard to say But 11 was very good and 11 wa s our firs t one so , that will be . I'm sure more to come Englewood City Counc il May 17 , 2010 Pag e 22 3. She said I want t,, thank everyone for coming and speaking 'J us I know 1t takes a lot of t_;me:: out of your schedules , so I appn-..c1ate the communication . 4 Sh, sa id •hanks Jerry for the picture ... wherever Jerry is . 5. Sne sa10 I am so excited about th fs restaurant And so I 1ust.. you know, I have read about II . I have not beso to it, but it ts a great ph1losop'1y , so I am so glad ti ts coming to Eng lewood Co un r;1I Me mbe r Mc(;aslin said can I piggy back off ::;f ii1a i..:ommun ity garden? My wife has got seven pl ot s that are availab le down at oer community garden ~own at Bishop Elem entary , on Dartmou th and Elati . So if you are interested in getting a plot there, she'd oc more than welcom e to ha ve you sign up Council Member Pe nn sa,d six Mr. Mccaslin said six now. Randy took one tonight So , there are about six plots still . th ank you 13 . City Manager·s Rc~Jrt City Manager S,?a rs did not have any matters a bring before Counc,1 14 . City Attorney's Repo rt City Attorney Brotzman did not have any ma tters to brm~ 1Jefore Co1.mcll 15 Adjournment Th e mee ting adjourned at 9.52 p m • • •