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1. Call to Order
ENGLEWOOD CITY COUNCIL
ENGLEWOOD, ARAPAHOE COUNTY, COLORADO
Regular Session
September 8, 2009
The regula r meeting of the Englewood City Council was called to order by Mayor Woodward at 7:44 p.m.
2. Invocation
The invocation was given by Council Member Mccaslin.
3 . Pledge of Allegiance
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Council Member Mccaslin.
4. Roll Call
Present:
Absent:
Council Members Jefferson , Moore , Penn , Oakley, Mccaslin, Wilson ,
Woodward
None
A quorum was present.
Also present: City Manager Sears
Assistant City Attorney Re id
Deputy City Manager Flaherty
City Clerk Ell is
Director Gryglewicz, Finance and Administrative Services
Director Kahm , Public Works
Director White , Community Development
Economic Development Coordinator Hollin gsworth, Community Development
Housing Finance Specialist Grimmett, Community Development
Senior Planner Stitt, Community Deve lopment
Police Chief Vandenmee
Fire Ch ief Pattarozzi
Police Commander Condreay
Deputy Chief of Police Collins
Deputy City Clerk Bush
5. Consideration of Minutes of Previous Se&&ion
(a ) COUNCIL MEMBER PENN MOVED, AND COUNCIL MEMBER McCASLIN SECONDED, TO
APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF AUGUST 17, 2009 .
Mayor Woodward asked if there any corrections or moo ifications. There were none.
Votereaults :
Ayes : Council Members Penn , Mccaslin , Mo ore , Woodward , Jefferson ,
W ilson , Oakley
Nai•s: None
• Mot ion carried .
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6 . Recognition of Scheduled Public Comment
(a) Mayor Woodward sa id Fire Ch ief Mike Patta •ozz i and Publ ic Works Director Rick Kahm will
pres•:u Robert Kav insky , Ron Norden , Re x Templeman . and Gerald Wier with life-sav ing awards .
Fi re Ch ief Pattarozz i sa id Mr . Mayor . City Counci l members . it is my privilege ton ight to present the Fire
Department Life-saving awards to four members of the Public Works Department. If we could have them come
forward and stand . I will read the Citat ion for you . "On July 8, 2009 , four members of the Englewood Publ ic
Works :.Jepartment were working on an asphalt project at the intersection of Delaware and Union . A citizen had
pulled over and was underneath his vehicle doing some repair work when the vehicle fell upon him . The Public
Works employees Robert Kav insky , and Gerald Wier from the Streets Division and Ron Norden and Rex
Templeman from the Traffic Division acted quickly to remove the man from under his veh icle by lifting the ca r by
brute strength alone . One of the members of the crew contacted dispatch and initiated the emergency
response . Due to the extraordinary actions of these individuals . which may have possibly made the diffe rence
between life and death for th is citizen , fire crews were able lo quick ly transport the patient lo Swedish Hospita l.
For representing the City of Englewood and for the ir incred ible life saving efforts , Robert Kavinsky , Gerald Wier ,
Ron Norden and Re x Templeman are hereby awarded the Fire Department Life-Saving Award ." He said thank
you gentlemen . There was applause .
The award was presented to each individual . There was app lause .
City Manager Sears said congratulat ions and var ious Council members also congratulated them .
Mayor Woodward said prior to our Recognition of Unscheduled Publ ic Comment...nolicing that a number of the
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people are here to discuss Centennial and Jason Park ... Mayor Pro Tem John Moore would like to say a few •
words about what we will be doing and the process that has come from our Study Session .
Mayor Pro Tern Moore said Your Honor , before I get into that part , all through our Study Session , we discussed
that we would continue the Study Session , after this regular meet ing , fo r the sake of catching some items that
we ran out of lime for. After talk ing with the City Manager, he agreed we can just defer those subjects to our
next gathering so we will , unl ike what we sa id before , we will not be resuming the Study Session tonight afte r
this . Now for the sake of the individuals who are here about ... or want lo speak abou t the dog issue , I just wan t
to make sure that everyone understands what we agreed to in Study Session tonight , because Council has
agreed to a course of action . On September 21", in here , we will have a motion in front of us . I will go through
the detai ls of that motion in a moment. Bui included in that motion . is that we will then have a Public Hearing on
October S" to get feedback from the Public on that motion and then , if all goes well , we will presumably proceed
to a vote or October 1 g'•. To key provisions of the motion that will be brought in here for discussion , which may
change during the process , of course , but just for a starting point . Council has agreed that we gel to look at
having separate times for the summer and the winter . Summe r will be defined as March through October and
winter is Novembe r through Februa ry . There will be morn ing and evening times ... l'm sorry , these times are for
when the parks , the existing off-leash parks . will ha ve off-leash privileges . So , off-leash priv il eges will have
morning and evening limes. The morn ing limes during the summer will be 6 :00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m. The even ing
limes in the summer will be 7:30 p.m. to 11 :00 p.m .. park clos e. In the winte r those times would change to be 6
lo 11 in the morning and 4 to 11 in the evening . And then lhe mo tio n will sugge•;t that this goes into effect
January 1. 2010. That is kind of the lime line we are work ing with and the startir,g point that we will formally
present next week to then be so liciting your reactions to an y of the components of that mot ion I just wanted to
make sure that everyone that wasn 't at the Study Sess ion had the benefit of that information . So , thank you .
Mayor Woodward sa id thank you John .
7. Recognition of Un sched uled Public Comment
(a ) Marti Kucharski , an Eng lewood resident , said we understand that the property at 601 West
Dartmouth , wh ich has been taken over , more or less . by a group tha t is a private organizat ion . Urban Garden
Associ atio n. And the first not ice tha t the res idents got that th is wa s happen ing was on Jul y 7" when the y ha d •
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• two little signs out on the property . We looked int o it an d called about it , but then we didn 't hea r anything more
about the project until later when it was accepted by the City Council that they were going to let them go ahead
with this garden . This property was designated , I think , as a park . This is going into agriculture and I thin k you
have to have a zone change on that , to beg in with , wh ich hasn 't been done . I asked Mr. Jeffers ~., if he could
check that out , the des ignation . whether it was park or open space . But anyhow , we went to the Planning and
Zoning in approx imately 1998 , when they were going to tear out all the northwest Englewood area here to build
high rises and th ings . The depot had been moved in there in 1992 . A house was still standing there and it was
in terrible , terrible shape and I am the one that went to the City author ities and got the old house torn
down .. ,that left the property . It was under weeds clear over your head all the time . It was a mess . We went
over, my husband and I would clean as much as we could over there until we got the City to turn it into an open
space and a park, which it is now. Talking to some or the men that work on It from the City or Englewood , the
total cost to change that into an open space with a sprinkler system , trees and grass , was pretty close to
$20 ,000 .00 . Now you are turning this over to a group that is going to tear it out and , by the head guy 's own
adm ission , these gardens only last for about a ye ar to two years and then they are finished . You have a garden
on the corner of Elati and Eastman . which is a community garden that is in terrible shape rig ht now and it has
only been going for two years . I want to know why the placement ... was allowed to do th is ... and als o to look at
the future cost to do this , because if this doesn 't work , the City Is going to end up paying almost 50 % more than
they did in 1998 to get this done . That is pretty expensive . Especially with our budget and you 've got
now ... you 've got Sheridan coming up that they may have to come to us for police , fire and rescue help in here .
So , I think my suggestion to the girls , I went down to the meeting , there is another lot on the opposite end of
Galapago and Cornell that is the same size and owned by the City as a property that they are going to tea r out .
that is unde r weeds all the time ... that has come to our attention since this has come out. When we started out , I
called Mr. Jefferson and talked to him about it and then I talked to a few oi the neighbors and they called and , so
far , we quit having them call Mr . Jefferson . because I have received over 300 calls on this , against this , that they
don't want this done to this piece of property . Many of them have come up with pieces of property that the City
owns in other areas , where they could do th is and it would be welcome . The man that lives next to the property
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on Cornell in the 3000 block on West Galapago , would be thrilled to death , because he sa ys he has to call the
City all the time to get you to come and pull the weeds over there ... and then you don't pick up the trash and he
has to pick up the trash . It has two ... I think there was a duplex on it at one time , so you have two water ma in s
coming in and a sewer line there . And we can 't understand why they can 't move this garden and leave what is
there . I live across the street almost from it and that garden is used a lot. Thete are a lot of young children
playing there . because they can 't play in the park , because the big kids pick on them and cause them trouble , so
they go over there . There are a lot of mothers who bring their bab ie s over there and they run and play in the
park . I had one woman come and call and she said it became her place of prayer after her husband was
oxecuted on a power line In Aurora . She could see Mount Evans and she would sit on my property , or on tile
property Lyle Bentner owned at that time . and she could meditate and pray . So . it means a lot to a lot of people
in there . And I wish you would go bac k and reconsider your decis ion and take a look at it. Cons ider what we 've
said with the cost , which is Lad at this time . If this was not a private organ ization , and I understand they have
applie d for a grant , which is good , I work with a group that is working to save the old Riverside Cemetery in
Denve r and we appl ied for a grant . We had every I-dotted . every I-crossed, everyth ing and it has been two
years . We were accep,ed for the grant , but we haven 't received the grant yet. In talking to these girls , they plan
to have yard sales at the Depot. They plan to have a farmer's market. which changes the whole th ing , because
now you are go ing into a business . Tha t property was condemned a long time ago ... you could not use it. That
nobod y would plant a garden on it . Dur ing the northwest Englewood tear out here , I did a so il sample all over.
It came up condemned and contaminated the same as the General Iron Works ... had the same thing , as it was
used to park the semi's there in the S0 's and th e 60 's. So , I don 't see how they could pass FDA to be able to
sel l vegetab les there and I don 't th ink anybod y is going to want a farmers market right there all the time during
the summer . So . if you will pleas e, go bac k and reconsider this . We would greatly appre ci at e It. Than k you
ver y much .
Ma) Jf Woodward said thank you . Several Council members sa id thank you .
(b ) Colleen McManus . an Englewood resident , said Your Honor and City Counc il. I thank you for
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the opportunity to speak . I just wante d ... in regard to setting hours at Jason and Centennia l Parks and now you
are considering all off-leash areas ... lo ple ase cons ider an idea or an opt,on of odd and even days , with al ways
considering sporting events first. Also , on a sid e note . the 7 compla ints that Code Enforcemen l has had in the
las t 2 years . to my understand ing , ha ve not come from En glewood 's spo rt ing associations . So , you know , we
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really haven 't had a problem with the sport ing , it has been more the pa vil ions and the playground at Ja so n Pa rk. •
So , maybe , for example , having off-leash on odd days of the mon th and on-leash on even days of the month
and maybe rota te that between Jason and Centennia l and Duncan , so then , everybody has an opportunity to go
somewhere that is off-leash or is on-leash that day . It is jus t an idea th at we had . We know that th is works on
certain hiking trails in certain areas . Also , I wanted to ask you and confirm with you that ... will all parks remain
on -leash at all times ? I mean , we are not considering no dogs allowed , is the question that I am posing as well .
And then , so in the conversations , we haven 't ... it has never really been clear that , you know , at Jason and
Centennial that you will st ill be able to ~ave your dog on leash at all times . We are j ust talking about hours for
off-leash . I just wanted to clarify that that was what we were discussing ... that on-leash is still going t~ be
acceptable in all City parks in Englewood . She said okay. And then I'm th inking that Dunca n Park maybe
should be left as it is, until the new Master Plan is rolled out a couple of years do wn the road , which it could be .
It is actually built and up and runn ing and be ing used as a multi-use park, because by adding hours, you mig ht
act ually cause issues with the park users today . That is al l I had to say and thank yo u for you r time .
Mayor Woodward said thank you .
(c) Doroth y Haefel i, an Engle wood resident , said and I am sure. you 've heard all I have to say
several times over and I just heard what wa s sa id previously about the hours . And I would like to say that if we
have to ,ve it... for me , I would say it would be safer for children and young and old if we ha ve dogs on -
leashes . Bu t, if we have to have hours , let's don 't have them on Saturdays and Sundays with dogs off-leashes ,
beca use the families really part icipate on Saturdays and Sundays ... all of the picnicki ng , fishing and sporting , all
those things , and we don't need dogs running wild amongst them . So , le t's ... I'm sure we will hear all of this
again on October 5" and we will go through it. And you know where I stand on it, so I'll just sa y thank you and
sit down ton ight. Than k ;ou.
Several Council members thanked Ms . Haefeli .
(d) Martha Griego , an Englewood resident , said after I was at the Study Session listening to you all •
talk about the hours and I feel pretty good that you guys were looking at both sides . Mayor Woodward sa id we
need your address for the record . Ms . Griego said you guys don 't have it by heart? She then gave her address .
But I was lis1t1~in g to you guys ... does my time start now or did ii get interrupted ? She was told it starts now .
She said I agree with you guys on some of those hours that you did giv e out and the 6 to 9, I thin k works really
well , because th is gi ,es a chance for the elders to be out there and walking their dogs when they want to walk
their dogs on leash , it P'Otects them . But the 7:30 to 11 o'clock , I have a small problem with that. I would like to
see ii at 8 o'clock in the evening and the reason is because of the T-ball . They are out there until after 7 o'clock .
And so yo u are going 1o be running into t~;. T-ba ll , because I have been there where the y finished playing T-
ball, the families have l(C or whatever and they are at the oavi lions and they are there eating while the kids are
playing . I just don 't wan t to rush these fami lies because I think, you know , family ties are the bonding and you
should reall y take '.I a 'ime out and be with your famil y. Instead of saying , we got to get out of here at 7:30 , the
dogs are going to be !,t loose . To me , what kind of fun is that for a child to know that the y can 't ea t, they have
to hu rry up and eat and If they want to play , they 've got 5 minutes and then they 've got to leave the park . So , I
would suggest that if it can go until B o'clock , I mean to me , I thin k, the people that wanted the dogs to be on-
leash at all times ... I be'ieve we are compromising and you know , to me , it is just a half an hour to have the
famili es to be together. I think that would work out great. Th e winter hou rs, 6 to 11 and 4 to 11 p.m., I think is
good hours for the winter. But. I do have to disagree with the weekends . On 7 days a week , aga in the par ks
are for the people and their families to be together. I have "', ·· out there on the south side of the park at 8
o'clock in the morning just to get a place to play volleyball w, o:-ne famil y members and th ings like tha t. So to
me , you know, we are out there and I'm sure a lot of you guys nave had barbeques , picnics where yo u are cut
there chitchatting with each other and by the lime you know it , the sun has gon e down . And you are like , oh
wow, ;tis already , you know , after 8 o'clock, 8:30 or what have you . I don 't think that the families , again , should
be : ush ed during the weekends and you know , we have to remember that there is st ill Canine Corral and th e
1• ',1Ieton dog par k for the people that want to use other parks . We aren 't telling them not to br in g their dogs , we
are just saying , put the dog on a leash . That is all we are asking . So , I don 't think that is a whole lot to as k.
You gu ys kept on talk ing about the soccer games . Can we mo ve the soccer games up and this and that , well •
yo u know , we 've got the fam ilie s and 1•ou need to remember that there are other sports that are being played
there . And I was j ust gett ing the feel from that meeting , is that you guys were try ing to move all the sports
around j ust to accommodate , you know , an hour here and there for the dogs . And to me , we 've got two other
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parks right close by in range fo r them to go if ii is not suitable fo r them , but we have to remember that this is a
people 's park . And it is lik e Jil l stated , that you know , it is like dog and people th ing , to soc ial,ze at these parks
and to ge t together. Well . I understand that . but there is also these other two dog parks lhat people can go and
soc ialize and be o,,e with each other , just like we want to be one with our families and gel together and en joy
the days . So , I have a problem with that one . The other th ing is. oh yes, the re were some people that came up
to me in the commun ity of Jason Pa rk and have come to me and have said that they don't want to come here
anymore , because they have lost belief in you guys . They are very frustrated with the deci sio ns and how long
this Is going and how the y have been here and how it has been ~oing with their speeches regard ing the dog s
and they are feeling like you guys are more out for the dogs than for the people . They are really frustrated with
that. I mean , I am frustrated too , but I'm still here and I'll continue to be here unt il I am satisfied . The same with
people from Centennia l Park. So , I would just appreciate It if you guys would really start listening to the people
and the families and the children , because this ir. really what counts . I mean , we are the ones that are ra ising
these kids to know society , to come to City Cour ;oil, you know . And like they say , you can 't fight City Hall . Well ,
you know . if it comes down to you guys voting with the dogs and having all these hours and this and that , we will
understand that you can 't fight City Hall ... that you guys are more or less for the critters , you know, whic h is
really kind of sad . And as Colleen had expressed that having odd and even days ... that is just more co nfus ing .
There Is no way that we can , okay we can go to thr. park on a Monday or Wednesday or odd day s or even days ,
that to me , is you know . you are looking at the weekends again and so you are telling people , we ll yo u can 't
come to the park on th is day , because of this , because of that ... I don 't see as working . And as far as Duncan
Park , to leave that alone . you are going to have the dominos affec t. When you put these hours into effect at
Jason and Centennial Parks , you can ~1ve Northwest Greenbelt and you are going to have Duncan Park and
you are going to have the sam~ problems that you have now . You may not thir .K so , but look how long it took us
to come here and we 've been doing th is every two weeks since the beginning at summer. I did go to Northwest
Greenbelt today to see what that park was like . It is a beautiful small park . There was a couple there and I
happened to , you know, ask the m are you guys from here and the guy sa id yes , I'm from here and he says I
work right down the street. So, I asked him what his thoughts were about dogs being off leash compared to
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be ing on-leash and he said he can 't stan d it... I can't stand it , he says , you know, it bcthers me that these dogs
are here and this and that. So , I told him what was go ing on lonight and I told him if he didn't like It, I told him to
come over here and represent Northwest Park and then that way , they can have. you know, a feel for you . I
said because there is no activities nere at this park . So , he was fearful , he had two little kids with him ... probably
around three and five and he was not happy abcut that Idea . He said that he would go with the set hours that
we have . that the other parks will have . but he says that he wants to have set hours or else have the dogs on
leash at al l times . So , you know, we know that is not going to happen , but you know , I think , that if you do the
hours and if we have to come back , I would sat put the doqs on leash 24 17 . So that is my op inion there . Thank
you .
Mayo Woodward said thank you , Martha .
Co unc il Member Wilson said thank you .
(e) Tracy Jones . a Highlands Ranch res ident , sa id I just have a fe w notes that I want to say . The
hours , I agree mostly on the hours , except fo r I don 't th ink it should be seven days a week . I th ink it should just
be Monda y through Frida y, because there are so man y activities done on the weekends , not just the soccer and
T-ba ll but with just families out there tryi ng to have fun with barbeques . There are a lot of people who have
barbeques and play a picku p game of basketball or football at night and it actually lasts over an hour . Some of
you might be thinking that kids shouldn 't be at the park past dark or whatever, but there Is a street light in the
center of Jason Park, so the kids do have light to play in . So , I just think that 8 o'clock issue , should go until at
least 8 in the even ing , Monda y through Friday . And I don 't think the dogs should be off the leash on the
wee kends . Your winter hours are fine . I am fine with that. I even mentioned to a coup le of Councilmen that I
wouldn 't even care if the dogs had the whole park during the winter every day . It doesn 't bother me because
there are going to be warm days where we can take the kids out there, but It is j ust a few , just a few days . I
think the hours should go for every park , including Duncan and Northwest. just because you are going to run
Into that problem of people us in g Duncan Park and then a year from now , then they are going to have to do the
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hours and you are going to have to the full warning leeway thing for two weeks or a month ... however long you
guys are going to do it. And it is just go ing to be mo re of a headache . Th is way you can get them all done and
over with at one time ... instead of people having to come ba ck and fight th is issue again . And you guys , I am
sure are sick of fighting it . I th ink th e signs are a great idea and I th ink they should be big signs and when you
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do pul them up , j ust like the new stop signs that are on corners wit h the littl e red flags on them , because it •
definitely catches peoples attention and they are go ing to walk over , read it and see what the new news is.
also bel ieve that the hours should be from 8 at night weekdays and the weekends , not just for the little kids , b•Jt
for the older kids ... the teenagers and young teens who don 't have schoo l. I know some peop le might think tha t
kids cause problems at parks , but the y are a lot better off at the parks than they are at hom e 1oing nothing ,
because that is when they come up with the worst ideas and decide to do worse th ings . Trust me , I knew a lot
of them and I know a lot of stuff that they have done ... it is not good . But I think that we are getting there and
hopefully we can all agree on 11 ,o hours . I really hope that you guys do a Monday through Friday , not seven
da ys a week , because it is not go i ,g to work out very well . Like we said before , we are not saying that , no dogs
should go to the park, it is just when you do go to the park between the hours , for us that you just put your dogs
on a leash . If you want your dogs to run off the leash then you could take them to the Canine Corral unlll Jaso n
Park or whatever hours open up or you could take them to the next nearest park that you can run you r dogs .
And I think that Is It. Thank you very much .
Mayor Woodward sa id thank you .
(f) Kim Love , a Littleton residen t, sa id good even ing City Council an d Honorable Ma yor, than k
you for your time th is evening . He said I am also Pres iden t of Englewood Unleas aed and thank you for your
time and listening this evening . I would really like to thank City Council and the Parks and Recreation
Comm iss ion for the time they took to listen to both sides of the issue concern ing Jaso n and Centenn ial Parks .
We respect the vigorous stand that our worthy opponents have brought fr,:lh and we are happy that we have
reached a milestone of compromise with th is group . I would like tn reite ,ate that whatever hours we come up
with in the end , bas ically , hours equal off-leash , so we want to ma ke sure that those are enforced and I think
som! of the ideas have come up tonight in Study Session are good . I think you do need to have that public
time , so I am glad that you guys are having time for publ ic comment , so we can all have some input on the
nours . We would like the City Council to also consider that Englewood Unleashed has organized cleanups
twice a month during some of the tim es that you have scheduled ... or suggesting . Being off-leash , of course , we •
come in ... for example ... at th is lime of the year, we start at 10:00 a.m. witn a cle&nup and that would be right In •
the middle of be ing an on -leash lime. So , when we are there clean ing up the park on behalf of Jason or
Centennial , you kno,11 , we wan t t~ make sure ... right now we are only doin g it at Jason, that we are clean ing up
the park we start at 10. And in the winter lime , we move it to 12 , bec .•use most of the time in the winter we are
the only group that is there at all ... is fam ilies with dogs . So we move it to 12 noon specifically , becaus e as you
know, it is way too cold in the winter to have a brunch and cleanup since as you arc probably aware , the dog
parts slick to the ground and the y are difficult to get up anyway since they are frozen ... so that is why we move it
to noon . So , we would like that to be a part of your consideration . We also strongly suggest that Council
consider winter hours , wh ich would be bas ically November through February , as be ing off-leash , because often
we are the only groups that are in the park. Our families are also there in the park both on weekda ys .lnd
weekends . Our fam ili es like to use the park as well with dogs and especially on weekends , so winter hours are
important to us as well . Because , aga in, we are probably the only ones there . It is very rare to see ch ild ren on
the playground equ ip ment because , you know , usually too cold to be sitting on . We respecttull y disagree wi th
Martha . When T-ball stops at 7:00 p.m., we watch and I've been there , I've watched many times , the
children ... so do the parents, so we th ink that 7:00 or 7:30 p.m. is really a fa ir compromise . Because we would
like to have at least some daylight hours to be able to be there . The best in summer , we are talking about 8:30
and it starts to get dark , so it gives us basi cally an hou r less lime to have light to use the dog park . Most dog
park users don 't stay past dark . There are a few exceptions , but most of them don 't stay past dark . Englewood
Unleashed understands that government legislation takes time . We co mmend the City Council for listening to
both sides and scheduling public comment. Th is is the way representative government should work , so we
commend all of you for doing that. I apprec iate your time th is even ing . Thank you .
Mayor Woodward sa id th ank you .
(g) Matthew Crabtree , an Englewood resi dent , sa id good even ing . You know, I have been listen ing
to this conversation abou t the cogs and made my comments last tim e about let 's fi nd a permanen t solut ion fo r
this problem . It seems at this po int , the other side is interested in setting times and spec ific hours . I go with Joe 8l
and John , that th is is probably not go ing to be a permanent solut ion , but we hope it is . The th ing to cons ide r -
here though , Is le t's not keep moving the times . What you have is you 've got 11 hours of proposed t,me , you
have 11 hours for dogs and 5 hours for people . I th ink there is a concess io n be ing made here by th e other side .
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Le t's not keep squeezing that down or pretty soon like at noon . an d tr~n you are go ir,g to have what, 3 hours , 4
hours ? Lei's not do tha t. These parks are fo r equa l use . Le i's not make one particular group ft>el that they
can 't use the park and then enforce specific times . Bel I th ink th is time th ing will work out well f<,r another
reason . The ccre problem here , I th ink with Jaso r. Par k, is that these parks are getting owr l.'Se J. I don 't think
that any point when the park was first off-leash that it was a problem , unt il it started gett ing "'·' there ... th is park
started getting used and used and used , more people showed up , more people showed up , n1Ne people
showed up . The one thing tha t th is will do , if you enforce th is across the table at every park with th is time , it will
limit people and ... I shouldn 't sa y limit... but it will discourage people from going to one specific park and it will
discourage perple from us ing th is one spec ifi c park for dog use . I think ii has an opportunity to even it out
across the board and I th ink that will fix the problem . But don 't leave one park totally off-leash . I don 't th ink tha t
is go ing to fix the problem . Now as for the other comments . you kr,w, I have been sitti ng here attending these
meetings for quite some time and I don 't th ink at any point anybo, 'las ever sa id, no dogs allowed in the park .
Let's make that really clear right now . I think that would be a terrib ,c idea and one more th ing . You know, Kim , I
have lo commend you for ... and Englewood Unleashed ... l have to commend you guys for your ded ication and
your passion for this issue . We may have different views on this , but I commend you for that. Believe me , I've
been passionate about a few things over the last couple ol years before Council ... ju,.t a different perspective .
Bu t let's come to a comp :om ise that both sides can reall y agree on . Thank you for your time .
Mayor Woodward sa id ll •ank you .
(h ) Jackie Edwards , an Englewood resident, said I have noth ing prepared . I thought Doug
Cohn was going to be here . I am part of the Englewood Days Committee and I would just like to really thank ail
of you for your support , for help ing us do our ca r show , and spotlight on Englewood and the whole
extravaganza . I th ink ii turned out very nicely and you helped us make that possible . So thank you very much .
Several Counc il members said thank you . There was applause .
';ommunicatlons, Proclamations and Appointments
There were no communications , proclamations or appointments
9 Consent Agenda
(a ) Approval of Ordinances on First Read ing
There v.ere no additiona l items submitt ed for approval on first reading . (See Agenda Item 11 )
(b ) Approval of Ordinances on Second Reading
There were no items ,:;ubmitted for approval on second reading .
(c) Resolutions and Motions
There were no add itiona l resol ution ; or rnot 1ons submilled for approva l. (See Agenda Item 11 )
10. Public Hearing Items
No publ ic hearing was scheduled before Counci l.
11 . Ordinan ces, Reaolutiun and Motions
(a) Approval of Ordinances on First Read ing
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(i) Directo r of Finance and Administrative Serv ices Gryglewicz presented a
recommendation from the Finance and Administrative Services Department to approve the propo sej amended
bill fo r an ordinance amending 4-4-4 -7C of the Englewood Mun icipal Code , pertaining to license for retailer and
ve ndo r fees . He sa id, as you will recal l, th is issue was actuall y passed on first readi1,g at th e las t meeting , but
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unfortunately the eff ective date , which was discussed with Counci l a\ Stud y Sess ion was not included In ih~ •
ordinance . So . this is coming back to Council effective January 1, 2Co10 The vendor fee for th e collection of
sa les tax will go from .5% to .25 %. The reason for this is we estimate that th is will save about $46 ,000.00,
wh ich will help maintain the services and staff that the citizens of ErJlewood have come to rel y on .
Mayo r Woodward as ked if there were an y qaestions for Frank . The ;e were none
COUNCIL MEMBER McCASLIN MOVED , AND COUNCIL MEMBER PENN SECONDED, TO APPROVE
AGENDA ITEM 11 (1) (I)-AMENDED COUNCIL BILL NO . 36 .
COUNCIL BILL NO. 36 , INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILSON/McCASLIN
AN AMENDED BILL rOR AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 4 , CHAPTER 4 , SECTION 4, SUBSECTION
7(C), OF THE ENGLEWOOD MUNICIPAL CODE 2000 , PERTAINING TO RETAILER AND VENDOR FEES
FOR SALES TAX LICENSES .
Mayor Woodward asked if there were any ,omments.
Mayo r Woodward sai d w ith this change, this goes back to first reading .
Vote results :
Motion carried .
Ayes: Council Members Penn , Mccaslin , Moore , Woodward , Jefferson ,
Wilson , Oakley
Nays : None
(ii) Deputy Chief of Police Collins presented a recommendation from the Police •
Department to adopt a bill for an ordinance authorizing the acceptance of the Community Oriented Policing
Services Hiring Recovery Program Grant No. 2009RKWXO181 . He said the Police Department is requesting
that you adopt this bill for an ord inance which will allow the Police Department to accept the COPS grant award
in the amount of $697 ,146.00 . The grant in and of itself provides for salary and benefits of three entry level
police officers over a period of three years . The Police Department will be required to ma intain those positions
in the fourth year. That is a prerequisite of the grant. Also, we are required to maintain our staffing levels that
we had at the lime the grant was sent into the feds . The Pol ic e Department intends to use ;his award as a
springboard , if you will , to re-establish the impact team , which was a significant community po lici ng tool that we
had in years µast. With that being said , ii you have any questions.
Mayor Woodward as ked if there were any q ,astions. There were none
Council Member Moore sa id Mayor it would be my honor to move Council Bill No. 38 forward . I was on Council
years ago when we , unfortunately , had to let go of the ir.,pact team and it has been something that many of us
have advocated for every year since, but just have never had the funding . Although there are strin gs attached ,
the opportun ity to ge t nearly $700 ,000.00 from the federal gove rnment to reinstate this , I th ink, Is just a
tremendous opportunity for the community. I never guessed tha t I would actually see it happen before I got off
of Council . With that. I would be very honored to move th is forward .
COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE MOVED, AND COUNCIL MEMBER WILSON SECONDED, TO APPROVi:
AGENDA ITEM 11 (a) (II) -COUNCIL BILL NO. 38.
COUNCIL BILL NO . 38, INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE
A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ACCEPTANCE OF COPS HIRING RECOVERY
PROGRAM (CHRP) 2009 GRANT FROM THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE , OFFICE OF
COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLICING SERVICES #2009RKWXO181 .
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• Ma yor Wo odward sa id I wou ld lik e lo second wha t John said. You had ment ioned lhat there had been a
number of us tha t ... for me since be ing on Counc il ... ~rJ my first budget retrea t... try ing to work out or figure ou t
ho w to ge t the impact team bac k and finall y tha t opportun ity is there . P,nd I jus t wanted to point out too , and as k
the questio n ... you po int out here tha t there were 103 law enforcemen t agencies in Colorado that appl ied for th is
~rant ano how man y in Colorado did rece ive it? Deputy Chief Coll ins replied 13. Mayor Woodward said as I
recall , the City of Englewood and your program for lh e impact teal!' was ranked number one in the State .
Deputy Ch,ef Coll ins sa id yes , numbe r one in the State . So , Mayor ,Noodwa rd sai d congratulations ... that says
someth ing about that program . I thin k there is a big impact that that will have on the community again .
Mayor Woodward asked If there were any other comments .
Counc il Member Oakley sa id I will be vot ing yes with reservations. because of the stipula tion that we canno t
layoff any police officers during that timefra me . If we gel to the point where we have to layoff employees , in all
other departments . it is going to make them exempt, but I understand that it is in the proposal and it's either take
it or leave it. so I will be voting for it.
Mayor Woodward asked anyone else . There were no add itional comm ents .
Vote results :
Motion carried .
Ayes : Council Members Penn , Mccaslin , Moore , Woodward , Jefferson ,
Wilson . Oakley
Nays : None
(iii ) Hou sing Finance Specialist Grimmett presented a recommendation from the
Community Development Departmen t to ap prove a bill for an ord inance autho rizing a State of Co lorado
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Department of Local Affairs Community Developmen t Bloc k Grant Neighborhood Stabilization Program Grant
Agreement. She said I'm here this evening to as k Council to consider entering into an agreem ent for a grant
agreemen t, with the State of Colorado , to receive S1 ,253 ,379 .00 as part of the Hous ing and Economic Recove ry
Act, otherwise known as National Stab ilization Program . The particula r program was an application that we
subm itted to the Stale in March . It was approved by th e Hous ing Board at tha t particular time in July . The
funding th at we will be receiving is specifically deemed to purchase a min imum , in lt1ally , of 6 houses that we will
then leverage into 10 houses that are foreclosed properties owned by lenders that are scattered throughout the
City of Englewood . The areas that we will be work ing in are specified as 1 0 of the 13 census tra cks that were
identified as high areas with foreclosure problems in those particular jurisd ict ions . The program also has a
limited time with wh ich we can spend the funding . The money is a time clock start ing at the time the State
received the funding in March , so we must commit all funds by September 2010 . The households that we will
be serving are meet ing income requirements stipulated in the program of 120 % of the area med ian income as
set by HUD and a min imum 25 % of those must serve fam ilies that are at 50 % or lower. We are required
that...of the 1 O houses that are in our agreemen t... that 3 of those houses will be so ld to famili es that are in tha t
50% area med ian categ ory . We w·11 be giving priority to famil ies that are serving ... are participating with family
self-sufficiency programs , such as the on e with the Englewood Hous ing Authority. Minimum purchase prices
will be at a 1% dis co unt of the appra ised value , as we purchase them from lenders . There is an admin istrative
fee of up to 2% that we will be able to reta in, as we ll as a developer fee . The project is work ing towards getting
underwa y. We ha ve ex isting staff that has the expert ise to be ab le to Initiat e and operate th is particular
program . It is intended that Fund 46 , the Hous ing Re hab ilitati on Fund , will co ver al i of the in itial costs of the
particu lar program . We wil l us e leverag ing thet we ha ve with ou r exi sting partne r bar,ks, as we ll as be able to
try to leverage with add itiona l ban ks, so tha t we can acqu ire the full 10 tha t we need to , to me et our goals of th is
particular program . The proceeds must be completel y spent with all prope rt ies sold by March of 2013 , which is
the conclus ion of au , grant agree men t. If we do not have the properties sold by that particular lime , we may be
required fo r a ti me be ing to hold them as rentals until such lime as we can get them sold , after the fact. The
intent is tha t the fund ing be retuned to the State , so that other com "lunltie s in the State , that have experienced
foreclosure . can have that mone y recycled to them . It does not pre clude that Eng lewood at that lime could not
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reapply and depend ing on what the pro gram is at that po int , we ma y do so . So , we as k Counci l's approval of
this grant agreem ent , so that We ma y be ab le to receive the fun ds an d start th e program . An y ques ti ons ?
Mayor Wood ward ask ed if th ere wer e any ques tio ns.
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Mayor Woodwa rd sa id I ~a ve one maybe two . I nol iced in the ordinance it says 25 % of all funds shall be used
to serve fam ilies whose income does not exceed 50 % of AM I. Howeve r, in Exhib it B, page 1 of 7. 1.1, it sa ys
30 % of these funds will serve households with incomes at or below 50 % of AMI. Which ... is there a ... it says
30 % and 25 %. Is there ... am I miss ing someth ing there ? Housing Finance Spec ialist Grimmett replied no you
are not . The minimum federa l requirement I ,as a minimum 25 % and that is also stated ... if you look at the same
exhib it, it's on page 6 of Exhib it B of the agreement , in paragraph 8.4 Eligible Households , it restates the 25¾.
So , that's what we 're referencing . It is a minimum the State has opted that 25% ... because they designed and
designated three households , It comes out to two and one-half and they just rounded up , making it three . Three
being 30 % of the total ten . It's not a discrepancy . It'; just the way they decided to state it. Mayor Woodward
said okay .
Mayor Woodward sa id and th e other question . Going back to ... it was months ago when we Initially did this ... it
seemed to me that we had to purchase the properties at a reduced rate from the banks or from the mortgage
companies . Has that been titted , that requirement? Ms . Grimmett replied it has not been titted , but it has been
modified . Ths in itia l requirement was that we were to purchase at a minimum 5% discount , averaging 10 to
15%. I think the Congress re-thought that and in later legislation , tha t I believe was passed with the ERA , the
percentage was cJecreased down to 1 % of the current appraised value , so that is what is in effect at this time .
Mayor Woodward said okay . Tha t's great. So we buy them for less ... 1% less and sell them . Ms . Grimmett
slated that we sell ii for cost , acquisition and rehab cost. Mayor Woodward sa id that's all th e questions I had .
COUNCIL MEMBER WILSON MOVED, AND COUNCIL MEMSER McCASLIN SECONDED, TO APPROVE
AG ENDA ITEM 11 (a) (Ill) • COUNCIL BILL NO . 40 ,
COUNCIL BILL NO . 40 , INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILSON
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A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING A STATE OF COLORADO DEPARTMENT OF LOCAL AFFAIRS •
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT (C DBG ) NEIGHBORHOOD STABLIZATION PROGRAM
(NSP) GRANT AGREEMENT .
Mayor Woodward as k€d if lhere were any other comments . There were none .
Council Member Jefferson said I would also just comment that I th ink in Exhibit C, we see a lot of the maximums
as far as in come and rent limits and I am j ust hopeful that man y of th ese will go to folks who are well below the
m~Jium incom e in our community .
Mayor Woodward said I just want to stale my appreciation for all your work on working on this neighborhood
stallilization grant program . I know you have put a lot of work into ii and a lot of time . And a very successfu l 1.2
mill ion for Englewood is great
Mayor Woodward said if there are no other comments , please vote .
Vote results :
Motion carried .
Aves : Counc il Members Penn , Mccaslin , Moore , Wood ward , Jefferson ,
Wilson , Oakle y
Nays : None
(i v) Deputy Ch ie f of Pol ice Coll ins presented a recommendation fro 111 the Pol ice
Department to adopt a bill for an ordinance authoriz ing the acceptance of a Colorado Auto Theft Prevention
Authority grant. He said the Pol ice Departments from Englewood , Sheridan and Littleton subm itted a joint
appl ication to the Colorado Auto Theft Prevention Authority requesting funding in the amount of$199 ,228 .00 .
We recogn ize that there is a fa irly significant problem with auto theft in the south end of the communities and we
wanted to get together , share our thoughts , resources and capital equipment and that is the reason for the •
application . The grant was awarded and approved and the City of Englewood will realize roughl y $16 ,675.00 in
o·,.ertlme costs that will be provided to our offi ce rs who will part ici pate In some of these spe ci al ops , if you will .
AnC: as well as receiving the automated license plat e reade r ... and that particular piece of cap ita l is valued at
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S22 ,000.00 Tha t will enhan ce our ab iliti es at identifying and locati ng stolen veh icle s. So , with yo ur approva l,
we wi ll be able to accept th e award .
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Ma yor Woodward as ked if there we re an y quest io ns . Th ere we re none .
COUNCIL MEMBER OAKLEY MOVED , AND COUNCIL MEMBER JEFFERSON SECONDED , TO APPROVE
AGENDA ITEM 11 (a) (Iv)· COUNCIL BILL NO . 41.
COUNCIL BILL NO. 41, INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER OAKLE ,'
A BILL FOR AN ORD INANCE AUTHORIZING ACC EPTANCE OF A JOINT GRANT FROM THE COLORADO
AUTO THEFT PREVENTION AUTHORITY (CATPA ) BETWEEN THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD , COLORAD O:
THE CITY OF LITTLETON , COLOR ADO AND THE CITY OF SHERI DAN , COLORADO .
Mayo r Wo odward asked if there were an y com ments or discuss ion . There were non e.
Vote results:
Mo tio n carried .
Ayes : Coun cil Members Penn , Mccas lin , Moore , Woodward , Jeffe rson,
Wilson , Oakle y
Na ys : None
(b) Approval of Ordinan ces on Secon d Read ing
There were no items subm itted fo , approval on second reading .
(c) Resolutions and Motions
(i) Econom ic Development Coord inator Hollingsworth prese nted a recommendation from
Community Deve lopment Department to authorize a resolution ass ign ing Englewood 's 2009 Pri vate Activity
Bond Cap Allocation to the Colo rado Housing and Fin ance Authority for home ownership progra ms . He said
this ass ig nment rep resents a cap ar,ount of $1 ,456 ,875 .00 . This matter was discussed by City Council al its
August 17'" meeting . Since 2002 , E,,;!~wood ha s assigned Ih a Priv ate Activ ity Bond Cap to CHFA in support of
home ownership programs . If Englewood does not assign or use its PAB Cap allo ca tion , the bond ing cap would
revert bac k to the State of Colorado 's Department of Loca l Affairs , to be used fo r other elig ible projects around
the State . Ass igning the PAB Cap to CHFA , is an attempt to ma ke sure these dollars are used withi n
Eng lewood . That concludes my comme nts . I'd be happy to respond to an y quest io~•.
Ma yor Woodward asked If there were an y quest ions . There were none .
COUNCIL MEMBER WILSON MOVED, AND COUNCIL MEMBER McCASLIN SECONDED , TO APPROVE
AGENDA ITEM 11 (c) (I)· RESOLUTION NO . 67 , SERIES OF 2009.
RESOLUTION NO . 67 , SER IES OF 2009
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIW ,G ASS IGNMENT TO THE COLORADO HOUS ING AND FINANCE AUTH ORI TY
OF A PRIVATE ACTIVITY BOND ALLOCATION OF THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD , ARAPA HOE COUNT Y,
COLORADO PURSUANT TO THE COLORADO PRIV ATE ACTIVITY BOND CEI LING ALLOCAT ION ACT .
Ma yor Woodward asked if there were any com ments .
Council Member Jefferson said I'm glad to hear that some of thos e funds wi ll be com ing ba ck to Englewood .
• Vote results :
Ayes : Council Members Penn , Mccaslin , Moore , Wood ward , Jefferson ,
Wilson , Oakley
Nays : None
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Mo ti on carried .
Mayor Woodward sa id than k you Darren .
(ii ) Director of Finan ce and Admin istra tive Services Gryglewicz presen ted a
recommendation from the Finan ce and Adm inistrative Services Department to approve a resolut ion transferring
funds from various funds to the General Fund . He sa id these were discussed dur ing the budgetary discuss ions
that we 've had with Council duriri g 2009 . I don't th ink I need to rem ind Council that revenues have been tight
this year , We have looked for ways to shore up some of those losses . These transfers will help do that and
they were included in the budget discuss ions . I'll go through those briefly . From the Pu r,lic Improvement Fund ,
$115 .000 .00 transferred to the General Fund ; from the Golf Course Fund , $100 ,000 .00 transferred to the
Gene ral Fund ; and from the Donors Fund , $30 ,000 .00 to the General Fund . Those will all go to the
Unreserved /Undes ignated Fund Balan ce.
Mayor Woodwa rd asked if there were any questions . There were none .
COUNCIL MEMBER McCASLfN MOVED, AND COUNCIL MEMBER PENN SECONDED , TO APPROVE
AGENDA ITEM 11 (c) (II) • RESOLUTION NO , 68, SERIES OF 2009,
RESOLUTION NO . 68 , SER IES OF 2009
A RESOLUTION TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM VARIOUS FUNDS TO THE GENERAL FUND .
Mayor Woodward asked if there were any comments . The re we re none .
Vote reaults :
Ayes :
Nays :
Motion ca rri ed .
Council Members Penn , McCaslln , Moore , Woodward, Jefferson ,
Wilson , Oakley
None
(iii) Director of Commun ity Development Wh ite presented a recommendatio n from the
Commun ity Development Department to approve a resoluti on authorizing the transfe r of owne rs hip of va riou s
parcels of land from the Englewood Urban Renewal Authority to the City of Englewood . He said lhis is
essentiall y a cle ,,n-up item . We discussed th is several times last year and I'm finally getting around to fina lizing
action on th is purUcular Item . What the resolution does Is have the City accept ownership of several parcels of
property that we r~ acquired by the EURA in the mid 80 's as part of the urban renewal projects that were Initiated
in the City . Referring to the map ;,11d the chart that was included in your packet... the pa rcels included in th is
transfer of ownersh ip are colored in yello w and they 're numbered as : 16 , 19, 20 , 21 , 38 , 39 , 40 , 41 , 46 , 47, 51,
and 53 . These are all currently parcels that are either used for street purposes , dra inage way purposes , or in
one irostance , part of a park ing lot that the City ma intains . All of these parce ls have been ma intained by either
Pub lic Works Department or the Parks and Re creation Department as open space , or drainage ways or right-of.
ways , th rou ghout the yea rs. So, there reall y is no additiona l burden that the City Is ta ki ng on by accepting the
ownersh ip of these parcels from EURA. The parcels not included in th is include , aga in referring to the map :
parcels 18 , wh ich is located at the corner of Elat i and Floyd Avenue ; 24 , 25, 26, and 27 , known as the Acoma
property; and parce l 29 , wh ich is a sma ll parcel at... that fronts on Broadwa y, at about Englewood Parkway . We
did see k a recommendat ion from the Urban Renewa l Authority fo r th is tr ansfer of ownersh ip and they did
re comme nd that these parce ls be transferred to the Ci ty . We also sough t a re comme ndation fro m the Parks
and Recreat ion Comm iss ion , ba ck in November of last year , fo r those parcel s that th•. Parks and Recreation
Departmen t would be concerned with : the dra inage way and the open space parce ls, and they did recommen d
that the City accept th e ownership of thos e parce ls . Staff is re commending tha t Council adopt the resolution
that is be ing presented and I'd be happy to answer an y que stions tha t you ma y have .
May or Wood ward ask ed if the re are any que stions . There were none .
COUNCIL MEMBER OAKLEY MOVED , AND COUNCIL MEMBER PENN SECONDED , TO APPROVE
AGENDA ITEM 11 (c) (lfl ) • RESOLUTION NO , 69 , SERIES OF 2009 .
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• RESOLUTION NO . 69 , SERIES OF 2009
A tscSOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP OF VAR,,,us PARCELS OF LAND
FROM THE ENGLEWOOD URBAN RENEWAL AUTHORITY (E URA ) TO THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD ,
COLORADO .
Mayor Woodward asked if there is any dis cuss ion . There was none .
Vote results :
Motion carried .
Ayes : Council Members Penn , Mccaslin . Moore , Woodward , Jefferson ,
Wilson , Oakley
Nays : None
12. General Discussion
(a) Mayor's Choice
(i) Mayor Woodward sa id Jack ie, I would like to congralulate you , Randy , the Englewood
Days committee of Doug Cohn , and Chris Duis ... the Greater Englewood Chamber of Commerce , and all or the
people that were involved ... Englewood Unleashed, the City , and all kinds of people ... for Eng lewood Da ys . It
was ... of the three that I have been around for , it was , by far I think , the most successful. I know I spent the day ,
up until around 4:00 , on the west side with the census and saw a lot of people . But in drivi ng by the east side ,
on my scooter a couple or times , I noticed there were a lot more people on the east side . So , tt was probab ly
one of the biggest events we've had in town and I thought it was very successfu l. I have heard noth ing but
posit ive things about it. So congratulations and thank you .
• (ii ) Mayor Woodward said next I'd like to mention that last Thursd ay , I did attend the open
house for the early ch il dhood development, al Maddox ... what used to be Maddox Elementary . Th ey are now
open and have been open since July . But it is a new fac ility . Th ey have moved over from Lowell and I believe ,
from Clayton ... all into one build ing I th ink there are some real good things that can happen there , in that , I'm
sure tha t their enrollment is go ing to increase over the years with their earl y childhood program .
(iii) Mayor Woodward sa id also Thursday night I attended the disaster house event in
Emerson Par k. I didn 't know what to expect. If people don 't know what the disaster house is , it is a house that
has gone through disasters all summer long . Thal is , elephants have clogged the plumb ing , roller derby people
have gone through and broken the walls , they dropped a car from 70 feet in the air onto the driveway and th is
has all been filmed fo r a program on DY i -TV and I believe it is for October 6'". I th ink it is a three part series . I
know , certa inly, Gary Sears , the City Manager , has a number of stories that he could te ll about des ires of the
producers such as jet engines , ro ck and roll bands , and some things like that. Golf balls flowing out of
hel ico pters . City Manager Sears said ii would be like hai l. Ma yor Woodward said , in any event , the event at the
par k. al Emerson Park , was quite positive . The co mmun ity peo ple that were around the ne ighborhood , and I
know that some were very upset. espec ial ly next doo r neighbor.. ... that part of their landscap ing was scorched
when the y pulled out blow larches ... but there were a numbe r of commun ity members that really got engaged In
II and built relat ionships with the crews there . So , the y showed us a couple of the actual shows , including the
car dropp ing ... first, from 50 feet , and all it did was crac k the sidewalk , so the y dec ided lhe y had lo bring it up
higher 10 do the damage that was needed to show the repa ir. It was prett y amazing . Throwing th ings down the
sta irs in that house was someth ing else too . They got luggage carrier~ from the airport to lhrow , starting with
suitcases , whi ch did noth ing but bounce , and moved to all kinds of things ... ending with an anvil that ii took three
people to swing and throw down these sta irs. And then this crew did all of these repairs . You may have seen It
last Tuesda y or Wednesday evening , on 9News . It was the house that had the dump truck sitt ing on it , ups ide
do wn , and lhen it crashed down . By , I th ink it was 10:00 the next morn ing , the si te was demolished and
• cleared . So , there is going to be a new house go ing up there .
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(i) Council Member Penn :
1. He sa id again , congrat ulations to the four gentlemen on the life sa\'ing award . I happen to know almost
all of them ... I know them all. What a great thing that they did . It was just amazing that they could do that.
Congrats to them aga in.
2. He said the Englewood Da ys ... Jack ie is to be commended . I think we started in January and have
been working on it. Gary , if you would pass on to everybody from the City of Englewood , that all of the help that
you guys gave us and arranged for us ... got us through this . I too , like the Mayor ... think it was an excellent thing
for Englewood . Hopefull y, we brought 5,000 to 8,000 people down to Englewood and that was something .
Unfortunately , we'll start talking about it in Janua ry again . So , we'll get it going . We welcome any , any
suggestions because the comm ittee is meeting aga in . I know we want to make it better and the only way we
can , is if we have your input. I know that I talked to Joe today and he has already got his survey from us .
Please fill them out and be crit ical , so that we can make it better and we can get that going . That's really all tha t
I have . It has been a great week . So , than k yo u.
(ii) Council Member Mccasl in :
1. He said I would also like I~ commend Englewood Days . It was great. It started at 7 in the morn ing with
breakfast with the Mayor, which I en joyed, kind of. There was laughte r. I enjoyed all of the venoors . I have a
few suggestions , so I'd like to be on that lis t. He sa id Wednesday night I attended the School B,,ard Meeting .
They were so impressed by Englewood Days . They loved it . I can't tell you ... the positive comrrents ... from all
of the principals , to the superintendent that attended ... the Englewood Foundation ... they couldr.'t talk enough
about it. It was so positive . In fact , I walked awa y from that School Board Meeting feeling we are headed in a
new direction, especially with the school district. They couldn't say enough positive things About Englewood
Days, so If you would please pass it on . It was a great day .
2. He sa id, again , speaking abou t the school, I think we 've come a long way to bu ild tha t relationship back
with the school district and I defin itely believe ... just by listen ing to the super intendent on down , that we are
headed in the right direction .
Mayor Woodward said thank you Bob .
(iii) Council Member Oakle y:
1. He said I too attended Englewood Days . I spen t most of the time over on the east side , since I am a
classic car buff. I did notice that the parking lot on Acoma was completely ful l. The Masoni c Temple lot was
completely full . Cars were lin ed up and down the streets all around there . I've attended all of them and that
was by far the biggest crowd I've seen there . I especially enjoyed the no on dedication to our country and to our
servicemen and women . That went off real well .
2. He said ... moving on to the ladies that appeared .. who were talking about the garden . I too asked that
question 'Nhen we first started to do lhat...if we couldn 't find something that was needed ... that nee ded more
improvement and move ii there , bu t we didn 't come up with this at that time . So , if there is anothe r lot close by
that we can take a look at , I don 't think that would hurt anythi ng .
3. He said on the quest ion of have we ever cons idered no! allowing unlea shed dogs in the parks , my
answer is no , I've never considered that and I don 't th ink anybody else has either . The other thing we haven 't
considered is weekends and I'm sure that will come up in our future discuss ions , so I'll let that go un til that time .
Mayor Woodward said thank you Wayne .
(iv) Council Member Wilson :
1. She said congratulatio ns to th e staff in help ing that gentleman . Tha t's huge . I hope they are there if
something happens to me .
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She said congratul at ions to Eng lewood Da ys . That's grand .
She sa id to the people around the dog park situ ation ... thank you all for coming aga in . Good to see you .
4. She sa id to Ma rti, with the garden , it did go through all of the proper channels and it did go to P & Z. II
is not a private group ... it's the Cultural Arts Comm iss ion , which is citizens ... a group of citizens working and
partnering with Den ver Urban Gardens. They have the grant money that we will be us ing . They are working on
the ir 90" garden . There won 't be a Farmer 's Markel there , or if there was , it was misinterpreted , But what we
will have is plots for homeless shelters . So , they always need food and so we will have plots that will just be
specifically for them , and the food banks that are in Englewood . I will try to get in touch with Mart i and also
connect her with some of the people that may have certain questions that she needs answered and we can go
forward with tha t. Tha t's it.
Mayor Woodward sa id thank you Jill .
(v) Council Membe r Jefferson :
1. He sa id I too had a bias• al Englewood Days. I was on the east side handing out free samples from the
Twin Dragon . I will agree what a wild success ii was for the whole community . Just kudos to everybody who
worked on that.
2. He sa id I also just wanted to thank the gentlemen who rece iv ed the award for their service to our City
ton igh t. We talk about a lot of things , but none of them are life and deal~. So , when something like that comes
up , ii is really nice to see the service lo the community in a real Ille or death situation .
3. He said ... just some comments on the disaster house . I did not attend their party there, but I just hope
that in the future maybe we will be a little more considerate of some of the neighborh M ds . I heard a lot of
• complaints from a lot of the neighbors there and it would be different, I think , if there was some benefit to our
community , but I didn 't see really any benefit besides ... ! actually didn 't really see any benefit and just thought ii
was a little bit disruptive to some of ou r residential areas there . I just hope that , from a policy perspective in the
future , we will be a little more conservativ e about what we approve in the residential areas .
Mayor Woodward said just lo add to that , I th ink a little more lnfonnation next time too . Council Member
Jefferson said agreed , agreed . I th ink we all sort of le a:ned our lesson . I'll say candidly that I was caught off
guard, as were the rest of us , in not knowing what to expect and not knowing what was going lo happen . I
thought that we had a reasonable amount of information going from the beginning , but I realized about half way
through it that we didn 't ... we were knee deep by that point and we didn 't really know what to expect. Aga in , I'll
just sa y that in the future , I just would like for us lo be a little bit more co nservative about what we approve in
res id ent ial areas , administratively .
4. He sa id to Linda and Marti, I wanted to thank them ior coming down and expressing the ir concerns
about the co mmun ity garden . I will echo JIii 's comments that , yes I agree that ii did go through the proper
channels ... and notices ... and I was actuall y surprised that I probably received .~out five calls from citizens on
the issu e. who claimed that the y had no notice and they didn 't know what was going on and they had lots of
questions and concerns about the gardens . And so I'm hopeful that I can , we can , put her in contact with th e
right people , address some of these con ce rns and see If this alleviates a lot of their concerns or if it is someth ing
that the res t of Council would be willing to cons ider . I'm open -minded to the idea of taking ii to a different
location .
Council Member Wilson said also ... can send those people my way ? Counci l Member Jefferson sa id I certainly
will. .. thank you for that , because I wasn 't able to answe r all of their questions . Ms . Wilson sa id that would be
fine and if I can 't answer questions , I'll find out about ii. Mr . Jefferson said I suggested they come down and just
be able to all tal k about it... and mee t... and whatno t. I thought that perhaps they would stick aroun d, but I
• certainly understand why they didn 't. But I will pas s along their contact infonmat ion to you .
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5. He sa id thank you folks ... talking al,out the off-leash issue ... for your comments . I am sure we will see •
you at the Public Hear ing and we will hav•, plenty of opportunity for additional comments . I think you will be abl a
to hear a lot more about what we have to say as wel l.
13. City Manager's Report
(a) City Manager Sears said I just wanted to let Council know that the reason why we had the two
budgetary issues in the packe t was , one , to let you know that we are print ing the budget. You should have the
budget by next Monday night. The budget ref,ects the changes tha t Frank Srygl ewicz put Into that. The
budgets are moving targets ... there are things that are happening from one week to the ne xt and so we 've
incorpo rated these changes into the budget. I think the spreadsheet that Frank included will prov ide a summary
of where those amounts are . But as we talked about.. .especially with potential transfers from the L TAR
Fund ... the numbers are changed per what's in the packet infonmation that you got.
(b) City Manager Sears said part of the reason for the health insurance discussion ton igh t was to
let Council know that we have gone fo r a zero percent increase . We were able to work with Kaiser to come up
with an opportunity for a zero increase into our budget , which means that there is an additional $123 ,000.00
transfer back into the General Fund ... meaning less of a transfer needed from the LTAR Fund . Part of tha t...to
ach ieve that. .. Is a change of some of our amounts ... or contributions by employees that requ ire Memorandums
of Agreements with our unions . We have met with the union s. Mike and Sue have been involved with doing
tha t And we have also sent a letter out to emp loyees regarding this proposed change . And , so far, it has been
very pos itively accepted . The preliminary with the un io ns has been ve ry positive . They have some more
meetings for later th is week , but this is rea lly to notify you of the change that we are proposing , again , in the
budget, as a final piece.
(c) City Manag~r Sea rs sa id I will be gone on vacation and also at a conference over the next week
and a half. Mike will be here ne xt Monday night and Mike, Sue and Frank can aoswer any questions that •
Council may have . I can try to address those , if Counci l has any . That was the primary reason why those two
items were on the agenda . Just really a notifi cat ion as you get you r budget documen , th is ne xt week ... that
those changes will be in effec t. Unless there are any questions , that is all that I have .
Council Member Jefferso n said , before we ad journ , I would j ust like to go back to our sign code discussion .
kno w we don 't want to get too deep into this , because we decided not to continue the Study Session atter th is
meeting , so I will try not to belabor it too much here . But I guess I would just as k other Council people if any of
them fee l comfortable , at th is time, with directi ng staff to withhold enforcement un til we are able to get our arm s
around the issue . Or if th is needs to have further discussion before or just no .
Mayor Woodward sa id, speak ing for myself, the idea was to bring it back next Monday on the Agenda for the
Study Session . So , we would be in no different place than we would be tonight. Council Membe r Jefferson said
so there aren 't an y bus inesses who are unde r a time restraint to come in to compli ance before fu1ther
enforcement action will take place ? City Manager Sears sa id it is my understand ing that we have given
warnings to the in divi duals . Tom , would )OU speak to that.
Pol ice Ch ie f Vandenmee said yes , all have received warnings and so far , all have voluntarily come into
compliance for the time be ing .
Council Member Jefferson sa id okay . So , if there was an add itiona l violation , we would aga in go through the
process of giving them not ice and an opportunity to come back into compl iance . Correct? Police Chief
Vandermee said a first complaint would require a notice of violation ... that gives them 7 days to correct it and
then we would give them a warning b~yo nd that.
Mayor Woodward said I th ink it also gives us the opportunity Joe :o have ACE 's input , which meets th is week . •
And I th ink that would be of value .
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• Council Member Jefferson said agreed ... okay . Now that I have a little better unders ta nding of where we are at
on the enforcemen, process , I am happy to defer it to next Monday .
14 . City Attorney 's Report
City Attorney Brotzman did not have an y matters to briea before Counc il.
15 . Adjournment
DWARD MOVED TO A~URN. The meeting adjourned at 9:07 p.m.
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