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1. Call to Order
ENGLEWOOD CITY COUNCIL
ENGLEWOOD, ARAPAHOE COUNTY, COLORADO
Regular Senion
June 5, 2008
The regula r meeting of the Englewood Clly Council wes called to order by Mayor Wolosyn at 7:34 p.m.
2. Invocation
The invocation was given by Council Member Barrentine.
3. Pledge of Allegiance
The Pledge of Alleg iance was led by Mayor Wolosyn .
4. Roll Call
Present:
Absent:
Council Members Tomasso , Moore, Barrentine , Oakley, Mccaslin ,
Woodward , Wolosyn
None
A quorum was present.
Also present: City Manager Sears
City Attorney Brotzman
Deputy City Manager Flaherty
C;ty Clerk Ellis
Deputy City Clerk Bush
Director Kehm, Public Works
Senior Planner Langon, Community Development
Director Black , Parks end Recreation
Fire Division Operations Chief Pattarozzi, Safety Services
5 . Con1ldtr1tlon of Minute ■ of Previous Senion
(a) COUNCIL MEMBER TOMASSO MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO APPROVE THE
MINUTES OF THE REGULAIR CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF MAY 15, 2008.
Mayor Wolosyn asked if there was any dis cussion .
Council Member Woodward said on page 3 ,;1 the ve'Y bottom, (b) Robert Maos .. I think thal should be Robert
Maes ... that that Is the correct spelling .
Vote result■:
Ayes: Council Members Barrentine , Mccaslin, Moore, Wolosyn, Woodward ,
Tomasso, Oakley
Nays : None
Motion carried and the minutes were approved as emended .
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(a)
present.
Englewood citizen Janice Gerfen was scheduled to discuss art In Englewood . She was not
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7. Recognition of Un1ch1dulld Public Comment
There were no unscheduled visitors .
8. Communlc1tlon1, Procl1r.11tlon1 and Appointment,
(a) A memorandum from Dooley Gehr, Chair of the Code Enforcement Advisory Committee,
recommending removal of an alternata member was considered .
COUNCIL MEMBER BARRENTINE MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO RECOMMEND THE REMOVAL
OF AN ALTERNATE MEMBER OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
Mayor Wolosyn asked If there was any discussion . There was none .
Vote ruults :
Motion carried .
Ayes : Council Members Barrentine, Mccaslin , Moore , Wolosyn , Woodward ,
Tomasso, Oakley
Nays : Nono
(b) An e-mail from Cornelia Humphreys announcing her resignalion from the Kee p Englewood
Beauliful Commission was cons id ered .
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COUNCIL MEMBER WOODWARD MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO ACCEPT , WITH REGRET, THE
RESIGNATION O" CORNELIA HUMPHREYS FROM THE KEEP ENGLEWOOD B!:AUTIFUL COMMISSION . •
Mayor Wolosyn asked if there was any discusslor,.
Mayor Wolosyn said I also accept It with regret .
Vote results:
Motion carried .
Ayes : Council Members Barrenline, Mccaslin, Moore, Wolosyn, Woodward,
Tomasso , Oakley
Nays : None
9. Consent Agenda
COUNCIL MEMBER WOODWARD MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED , TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA
ITEMS 9 (a) (I), (II), (Ill), and 9 (b) (I), (II), (Ill),
(a) Approval of Ordinances on First Reading
(I) COUNCIi. BILL NO . 20 , INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WOODWARD
A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ACCEPTANCE OF A VICTIM ASSISTANCE LAW
ENFORCEMENT (VALE) GRANT FROM THE VICTIM ASSISTANCE LAW ENFORCEMENT BOARD OF THE
18™ JUDICIAL DISTRICT .
(II) COUNCIL BILL NO. 21, INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WOODWARD
A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT ENTITLED •
AGREEMENT REGARDING PROPERTY ACQUISITION AND CONSTRUCTION OF A MAINTENANCE TRAIL .
BIG DRY CREEK, CITY OF ENGLEWOOD, BETWEEN THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD, COLORADO AND THE
URBAN DRAINAGE AND THE FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT .
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(Ill) COUNCIL BILL NO . 22, INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WOODWARD
, BILL H1 R AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT ENTITLED
AGRE E~ENT REGARDING DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF MAINTENANCE IMPROVEMENTS TO
WEST 1iARVARD GULCH, CITY OF ENGLEWOOD, BETWEEN THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD, COLORADO
AND THE URBAN DRAINAGF '\ND THE FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT .
(b) Approval of -' _,nances on Second Reading
(1) ORDINANCE NO . 14 , SERIES OF 2006 (COUNCIL BILL NO . 15, INTRODUCED BY
COUNCIL MEMBER TOMASSO)
AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT BETWE EN ARf\PAHOE
COMMU NITY COLLEGE/AREA CAREER AND TECHNICAL SCHOOL ANO THE CIT Y OF ENGLEWOOD
PERTAINING TO THF. BUILDING OF A SINGLF. FAMILY RESIDENCE AT 2360 SOUTH ZUNI STREET ,
ENGLEWOOD , COLORADO .
(ii) ORDINANCE NO . 15, SERIES OF 2006 (COUNCIL BILL NO . 17 , INTRODUCED BY
COUNCIi . MEMBER WOODWARD)
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 1, CHAPTERS 4 ANO 7, OF THE ENGLEWOOD MUNICIPAL CODE
2000 PERTAINING TO COSTS AND PENAL TIES IN MUNICIPAL COURT .
(i ii ) ORDINANCE NO . 16 , SERIES OF 2006 (COUNCIL f '. NO . 18 , INTRO DUCED BY
COUNCIL MEMBER WOODWARD)
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 7, CHAPTER 68, SECTION 11, OF THE ENGLEWOOD MUNICIPAL
CODE 2000, PERTAINING TO POLICE ANO FIRE ALARM SYSTEM REPORTS .
Vote results :
Motion carried .
Ayes : Counc il Members Barrentine , Mccaslin, Moore , Wolosyn , Wood ward ,
Tomasso , Oakley
Nays : None
(c) Resolutions and Motions
There were no additional resolutions or motions . (See Agenda Item 11.)
10 . Public Hearing Items
(a) Mayor Wolosyn said th is is a Public Hea rin g to gather in put on Counci l BIi i Nr. 16, perta ining lo
lhe number of animals maintained at a househo ld or premises .
COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED , TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO
GATHER INPUT ON CC'UNCIL EllLL NO . 18, PERTAINING TO THC: NUMBER OF ANIMALS MAINTAINED
AT A HOUSEHOLD OR PREMISES .
Ayes : Council Members Barrentine , McCaslln, Moore, Wolosyn , Woodward ,
Tomasso, Oakley
Nays : Nona
Motion carried and the public hearing opened .
Mayor Wolosyn sa id we don 't have a member of staff presenting th is, so I am going to present for the record ,
Proof of Publication of the notice of this Public Hearing , which was published on May 19, 2006 In the Englewood
Herald . This was presented to the City Clerk.
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Mayor Wolosyn said we have an ex isting rule that says we can have a total of four animals In our house ... two
each, no more than two cats M d no more than two dogs . Ona of our Council members asked that we change
that to make ii a maximum of three cats or three dogs and we also dec ided that since th is does perta in to the
community that we would have a Public Hearing on It.
Council Member Moore said just let me clarify that ii will still ma intain the total of four ... thls Is just changing the
allocation .
All witnesses were duly sworn .
Don Roth, an Englewood resident, said th is issue Is something that , am sure you are eware that ii is not the first
lime that ii has been before you . ii was probably about four or five years ago, that Iha Code Enforcement
Advisory Commillee looked al th is, when I was a member of that Commillee . At that lime we came up with the
current limits that we felt were adequate . Some of the reasoning behind that : (1) Iha size of the yards In the
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City ... mosl of the yards are 6000 square feet, you had a house , a garage and whatnot and the area shrinks
CC'nsiderably and then If you have a large dog where you need a six foot fence , you loose even more . And the
dog park Issue really supports that concept...that peJpie don 't have enough roo,n in their yards to maintain their
dogs. So, adding a third dog just creates more problems ... you have , of course , the noise from an extra barKing
dog, you have odor and sanitation Issues, not &verybody cleans up every lime their ~og goes out in the yard.
Sometimes they don 't clean up for weeks al a lime and so that can be a big issue and when you add a third dog ,
it just compounds the issue . Those are really the crux of what r.ur discussion was back then . I know I have
heard th e argument here that If they have an old dog and you want to bring in a new one ... get him acclimated
before the old dog passes on, but this opens It up for any age dog. ii doesn't say lhal ye.~ can only have an old
dog before you bring In a replacement. You could have three pupplvs , just the same as three old dogs . From
personal experience , bringing In a third dog, when you have an old dog that is on his way out, is usually not a •
good plan . First of all, the new dog has to adapt to two roommates instead of one and •he old dog really doesn't
appreciate having somebody coming in and trying lo establish his spot In the pecking order . So , all in all , I think
the Idea of adding a third anlmai...il doesn't maller ... a third dog or a third cat...really isn't a good plan . ii really
doesn't help and ii is especially troublesome for neighbors who don 't, or even some who do, have dogs .
Mayor Woiosyn said thank you Don .
Tom Henritze said I've lived In Englewood for about fifteen years now . I appreciate the comments 11! a fellow
citizen . What I would want to stress is that how we maintain one dog or a dozen dogs is really what he was
echolng ... lf you don 't pick up after your dog , if you are discourteous toward you neighbors , ii doesn't mailer how
many dogs there are. My opin ion is that the arbitrary rule of two dogs as compared lo lhree ... there are very,
very few homes that have exactly two dogs and two cats . The reason I am here is that I am vary passionate
about ii. I have recently lost two dogs and we are starting over ... we have a puppy . I think dogs are pack
animals ; they love lo be with people and love to be with other animals that are very much like them . There is a
bond that goes on there . I am passionate about having two dogs . I :hink two dO!]s Is really .. .11 Is fantaslic ... a lot
of us work 8 to 5 ... or In your case probably earl ier and loter ... and ii is very, very troublesome lo leave one dog
from 7 In the morning unlll whenever you might get home al 7, 8, 9 or 10 o'clock al night. Two dogs is really,
really a beautiful balance for them and ii is a great balance for everyone else In the neighborhood . However,
when you do lose a dog ... because dogs only live 7 lo 10 years depending upon their size, II is very, very difficult
to go thr,ugh the gyrations of gelling another dog . So , what I have done In the past , and ii has worked
fabulously , Is to Introduce a new puppy . We had a 1 O year old who was very old and very arthritic . We
Introduced a puppy, the puppy was very energ etic and actually added a couple of year 's worth of life to that
older dog and ii really enriched our life as well. We were always very, v~ry courteous to our neighbors . We
talked with them about the fact that we were going to get a third dog in a short period of time . None of them had
any Issues. We certainly pick :•~ feces and we make sure about bark ing and other things on a dally , weekly
basis . To go three weeks would be problematic for even one dog ... l would h,pe . Bui I am very, very •
passionate . I think two dogs are absolutely fantastic . What I would ask of the Council is that I think a three dog
limit gives you that very ability to accommodate peop le who really, really want lo have on avera pe .. .for most of
their lives ... two dogs . There will be times In my life when I will have one dog , like right now. I will certainly gel
another dog shortly, but there are limes when ii makes a 101 of sense lo have a third dog . So , rather than
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runnl~g up agalnst...what I consider to be an arbitrary le which Is two dogs and two cata, which really doesn't
exist .1 society anywhere ... to heve the ability to have t,1ree cats ... l'm not a cat person, maybe someone else will
speak on behalf of cats ... but , to have three dogs, from my perspective, It Is a very, very passionate cause . And
I think It mekes a lot of senu for a family unit. I'm not asking to go up to eight dogs, ten dogs and not asking to
not pick up feces for month s on end . I do think that there are those expansions and contractions that happen In
our families and In our lives and It makes a lot of sense to have the ability to not draw a hard line at two, so that
we can actually expand to accommodale social chan;ies and family changes . Thank you .
Mayor Wolosyn said thank you .
Cindy Scott , an Englewood resident , said ' would like to thank you as I was really happy to see this on the
agenda . I th ink that there Is a vast variety of situations . There can t;e situations where one dog Isn't suitable
and sllur,tlons where three dogs are fine . And so one of the problems I always had with the two dog limit Is I
think It probably makes scofflaws out of a tremendous number of people In the City . Dogs have become ... you
know they are a very personal, passiorate part of peoples' lives . I know that I was a three dog household for
awhlle ... my elderly mother could no longer care for her elderty dog . Of cou rs e, I was going to take the dog , but
It is not ki nd to have that hanging over somebody's head ... that's an illegal dog. I also wo,1der ... l dGn't koow if
there Is any plan to llcanse dogs al any time In the future, but at the point tha t, !hat happened I think there would
be an awful lot of people wilh a problem . I know that dogs in many people s' llvos Josi have a very central
position . My dogs are really partners and team members . I do pet therapy. I brought my dog lo the library
downstairs In this building yesterday to have children read to her . It 1, quite remarkable ... all the places that
dogs are being accepted now. I do sports with her and I think the re allly oow ;s that there are many activities
that you can do with your dog \hat become very important to you , but also veterinary sc ience is such thal a dog
may have five to eight years ,,f comfortable livi ng after th ey have to retire fr om these activities . So, you are
faced with a very hard choice if you can'l rspl ace that dog . On a other po int that I wanted to make Is I think in
the general vicinity It ls pro bably more common to allow three dogs In a household and so I would Imagine that
could be a serious issue for some people moving Into the Cily. .,,,d that concludes my remarks.
Mayor Wolosyn said thank you Clnd :· II ls nice to see you . Ms . Scott said I haven 't been here, because we
have been doing pet therapy on Mondays .
Tavis Hanna said I have lived in Englewood for just short of four years now and I have had two dogs the entire
time. One of them is a Wolf/Husky hyb,id and he is now eleven and a half and the other is an Akita and he is
four and a half. Both are very Intelligent and very stubborn breeds. Akitas, of course, have a very strong
propens ity for aggression, but since both of them ara such intelligent breeds I was able lo train them to ba
incredibly social. They have been going places off leash ever since l'v,, had them and as far as around the
house . they can be protective. They know all of our neighbors. All of our neighbors know and like them both
very muct. and as far as being a nuisance to our environment... they ~• e no t. They have been trained to not go
to the bathroom In the front yard or In the grassy portion of the back yard, but :hey will go behind my garage In a
secluded spot. Thal Is whe :·e they go . I pick II up frequently enough that II does not pile up . As far a: barking Is
concamed ... the Akita barks et ~ome people now and then, people who are strangers . Ne ighbors coming and
going , he doesn't bark al then • ~I all. .. he knows them . The work that I have put Into both of them has been
difficult with the Husky wh en 1,~ was my only dog . II was about half as difficult with the Akita, because having a
puppy under a mature dog .. ' eslcally, the mature dog does half of the work for you. Being able to lntroduca a
third puppy for the next few )· ars , before the Husky passen c,n, would again decrease the amount of work and
difficulty It wou ld take to train that dog lo the standard level that my two dogs are at now. Having the opportunity
to maintain t \at culture of just soclallzallon Is crltlcal and key, especially when II comes to dogs that are as
Intelligent encl stub~om as th.i~e two . So, the opportunity to keep that Intact would be tremendous for our
household . I do understand that there are Issues with barl·lng and environmental pollution with having too many
dogs, but I would have to say that I have seen those same problems with households who only have one dog . It
really Is not an Issue of the dog , as muc:i as It Is the owner and the style of stewardship U,at they undertake . It
just seems to me 1.i1at this Issue has some contentious points and those are usually brought to the surfaca by
lrresponslbla people , wlt.1 just a few of them ruin ing the opportunity for the rest of us who are very responsible .
Coincidentally, all of the people who I heve spoken lo about this lss~e. their response has been the same thing .
This Is great. I could Introduce a puppy before my oldar clog passes on and all the benefits that go along with It,
they would be able to benefit from . I don't think that many people want to have ,ilree dogs fr,r long term . I
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would have lo get bigger veh icles for ,ne thing and I just can 't afford that. So, it really Is a life style thing . It
really Is a kind of maintaining a culturu that makes It easier on your neighbors, makes It eas ier on your owo life
style and makes It safer for the rest of the community, ~ecause having a dog that has been soc ialized as well as
ours have and having a dog raised like ours hgve , Is key In allow ing them to go off-leash and trust tha, •~ey
aren 't going to do anything dangerous or scary to other people . So , I guess my view on th is Issue Is I'm 1cr It,
but responsibly cautious . There are probably going to be people who take advantage of this and don 't take lhe
responsibility as proportionate to the ir commitment. So , I urge the City Council to not hesitate when It comes to
utilizing Code Enforcemenl lo crack down on households who are not !raining their dogs to be quiet or picking
up etter their dogs consistently enough . And as a gentleman said earlier, going to the off-leash park ... yeah
somellmes the back yard Isn't big enough , but sp ace Isn't the only thing the dogs get at the off-leash
park ... soclallzatlon Is the number one thing . And so , please, If this issue doesn't go through, be open to
resorting back to two dogs per household again if people aren 't be ing as responsible as they should, because
there needs to be a check and balance here . And if peop le don't see it, th is is a privileg e that can be taken
awa1• If they don 't really· have a lot of accountability . So , please do crack down ... don 't hesitate and I am look in g
forward to this passing . Thank you very much .
Mayor Wtolosyn said thank you Tavis .
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Darice Henritze , an Englewood res ident , said I have also lived in Englewood for 15 or 16 years . I wasn't going
to talk because my husband was speaking and obvlo1 ,sly you know where I stand on the issue, because I have
to stand where he stands or he will divorce me ... [there was laughter] ... but I was listening to everyone's
comments . I guess I have one point to make and that Is that I know the City of Denver has had the three dog
ordinance for qu ite some time and it would be interesting to know whether they have had Issues with increased
complaints over dogs . I would be surprised to know If that was factually true . Perhaps a recommendation to the
Council is you could look into that. The other th ing that I would think Is that dog owners who are Irresponsible
with dogs are probably very unlikely to run out and get three. My guess is that most irresponsible dog owners •
have one that they get for their child and they stick it in their back yard, they don 't train It and it po ops all over
the place and they ne ver clean up anyway . Most people who have three dogs tend to be peopl e who are pretty
into dogs . They tend to be people who are very focused on raising their dogs and understand in g pack behavior .
Just another comment. .. it seems to be true If you listen to the people who came here to speak, the y are all
pretty into the ir dogs . I think my husbanu might luve our dogs more than he loves me, but we can talk about
that at another Counc il meeting . [There was laughter .] It might also be interesting , if we are going to Increase
the number to three dogs , to Increase the ordinances that we have that penalize people , perhaps fine them for
not taking care of their dogs and perhaps there could be a fee for people who want to keep three dogs to really
mak n it a personal pain to them to understand the responsibility of hav ing to take care of those . So, I Just threw
in a couple of comments based on what I was hearing ot11er people tal ki ng about . Thank you.
Mayor Wolosyn asked if there was anyone else who wanted to speak during the Public Hearing . There was no
one .
COUNCIL MEMBER WOODWARD MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING
TO GATHER INPUT ON COUNCIL BILL NO . 16, PERTAINING TO THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS
MAINTAINED AT A HOUSEHOLD OR PREMISES,
Mayor Wolosyn asked if there was any further discussion . There was none.
Vote reault■:
Ayes : Council Members Barrentine , Mccaslin , Moore, Wolosyn , Woodward ,
Tomasso , Oakley
Nays : None
Motion carried and the public hearing closed .
Council Member Barrentine sa id since there was some confus ion , would you Just say what the next step Is after
the Public Hearing , since obv iously there was confus ion and also whether we were voting on It or not. •
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Mayor Wolosyn said I thought everybody knew that we wou/~ be voting on this et our next scheduled meeting .
Usually we never vote on th~ same night as the Public Hearing.
(b) Mayor Wolosyn said this Is a Public Hearing to gather Input on Council BIii No . 19,
pertaining to the South Pennsylvania Street Senior Housing Planned Unit Development (PUC) located at South
Pennsylvania Street and Highway 285 In the City of Englewood .
COUNCIL MEMBER BARRENTINE MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING
TO GATHER INPUT ON COUNCIL BILL NO. 19, PERTAINING TO THE SOUTH PENNSYLVANIA STREET
SENIOR HOUSING PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT (PUD) LOCATED AT SOUTH PENNSYLVANIA
STREET AND HIGHWAY 285 IN THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD.
Ayes : Council Members Barrentine, Mccaslin, Moore, Wolosyn, Woodward,
Tomasso , Oakley
Nays : None
Motion carried and the public hearing opened .
All witnesses were duly sworn .
Senior Planner Langon said before you tonight for your com;ideration is Council Bill No . 19, which pertains to
the South Pennsylvania Street Senior Housing Planned Un i/ Development. I' , a request by the Englewood
Housing Authority to rezone their site from the current MU · R-3-8 zoning to F, 0 designation . I have already
submitted, for the record, Proof of Public,,tinn for this Public Hearing in the Englewood Herald on May 19, 2006
and also Certification of Posting of the Pua:ic Hearing . Community Development recommends approval of the
South Pennsylvania Street Senior Housing PUC with one condition. And that condition is that prior to any
building permits be ing issued, that the three properties on the east side of South Pennsylvan ia Street be
combined into a single property, pursuant to City of Englewood and Arapahoe County requirements . As you
can see from the slide up here , the property is at South Pennsylvania Street and US Highway 285 . The two
sites ... one is on the east side of Pennsylvania and one is the area on the west side . The total of the parcels is
.8 acres . And the current zoning, as I said , is MU-R-3-8 , which is a Mixed-Use Residential/Limited Office-Retail
District. The PUO ordinance provides for rezoning of the site and creates its own zone district for this
development. II unifies the control of the total of the four parcels into thb one district and II establishes zoning
and site plan criteria, specific to this site . There are two parts of the PUD . The first part is the District Plan ,
which sets the ,egulations ... the actual zone district regulations . And the other part is the Site Plan and that sets
the site desi2n and requirements . The PUC is being requested, even though the multi-unit residential use is
allowed in the MU-R-3-8 district , the request is to rozone the site, so that additional units may be built on the
site , setbacks can be reduced and also that the MU-B-1 zone district commercial uses, that would be allowed in
8-1 zone districts , would also b allowed on the western parcel ... that is the parcel that you see currently shown
as a parking lot. 8) way of background , the applicant conducted a neighborhood meeting on January 19, 2006 .
That was a pre-application required meeting and two area residents attended that meeting . The actual
application for the PUC was submitted on March 8th and the PUD was reviewed by the Devek>pment Review
Team ... that Is the team of seven reviewing departmen ts or divisions in the City . All identified Issues and
concerns of the Development Revis,v Team have been resolved to each department's satisfaction . A Public
Hearing was cond •Jcted by the Planning and Zoning Commission on April 18th and the Commission
recommended approval with four c~ndlllons . The original condition, that you see .rated here tonight, and three
additional conditions. Two of those nave already been met by the applicant and those were just editing and
correction to the Site Plan document. The third condition was also addressed and that was a condition that our
Traffic Engineer review, again , the polentlal for a mij-b/ock pedestrian crossing . Just to uo ovor that...the
T•affic Engineer reviewed and determlndd again ... malnlalned his original recoml"'sndatior, that a mid -block
crossing was first, too close to the intersection of Pennsylvania and the Highway and the stopping distance for
turning vehicles was too short, if a vehicle came around the comer end was north bound on Pennsylvania.
Drivers, he fell , would not be expecting e mid-block situation and ii was actually creating a more dangerous
situation than the idea of helping people cross at mid-block . BeC!luse of limited vislb/1/ty, both by the Jriver who
was coming around the corner ... not being able to see until they got around the corner and then possibly would
be too late to stop ... and also for pedestrians that were waiting to cross, they may not be able to see cars that
would be turning from Highway 285 . Also , if a mid-block crossing is put in , it loses parking space on the street
and would affect resl<'ents that ere on that block . The Traffic Engineer fell that In th• ·. ·•ure It could certainly be
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his original determination that a mld •block pedeslrlan crossing did not meet safety standards . So, just ona
condition , and that Is the ccndlllon of ccmblnatlon of property of the eest parcels ... that Is the only condlllon that
remains . The PUD Itself Is a building to allow Independent, non-asalsted living for sen lors ... a~e and lnccmo
qualiflod seniors . It Is expected that this type of development would fill the gap between subsidized senior
facilities, such as Simon Center or Orchard Place and private sen ior facilities such 88 Meridian . This will fi ll the
go~ between those two and it Is designed for both age and Income qualified seniors . The Housing Auth ority
would probably be able to speak lo lhat also . The Housing Authority plans to construct one building <'n the ea u
parcel and that would contain a total of 62 residential unl ls ... 40 units that are one bedroom units and 22 two
be:lroom units . II Is a five story building that Is planned at 60 feel , all on Iha east side of Pennsylvania . II has
park ing at grade , at ground level , with a total of 59 park ing spaces ... 39 of wh ich would be at grade on the east
parcel and 20 on the west parcel. The parking ratio meets the City's standards for senior residential use . The
MU·R·3·B district does cur enlly allow for service uses for the conven ience of tenants . Those would be hair
dressers, gift shops ... but tt,e way the ordinance reads , It says .. .for the convenience of tenants . What the
Housing Authority is request ing is for full use of the MU•B· 1 commerc ia' uses, similar to those that wou 'd be In
the down town district. That would not include any drlve-thru or any automotive type l Ises . II woulu be
comm ercial service and retail uses . And this Is actually al a request frcm the Community Development
Department to prov ide future flexibility for the parcel. .. one, beceuse of its proximity to the B·1 zone district along
South Logan , which Is just across the alley to the west and also because of its frontage on US 285 .... this being
a more appropriate use along the highway and adjacent to other ccmmercial uses . This commerc ial use wou ld
only be for the west parcel. The east parcel would remain as the residential use . The Community Development
Department believes that this PUD is consistent with the intent of the PUD criteria established in 16·2•7 Official
Zoning Map Amendments (Rezoning). II meets community goal of housing that serves different life style
changes . It specifically addresses the need for qualified sen ior housing and it conforms to City development
standards . Therefore , Community Development recommends approva l, with the condition that the properties on
the ea st parcel be combined Into a single lot. I will be happy to answe r any quest ions . We have Shelley •
Thompson , Cha irperson of the Englewood Housing Authority, here and also Mr. Otis Odell from Odell
Architecture to answer questions .
Mayo, Wolosyn asked if there were any qu estions from Council. There were none .
Shelley Thompson, an Englewood resid ent, said I am grateful for the opportunity to address the Council. I am
here as the Chairperson of the Englewood Hous ing Authority and here to represent the entire Board of
Directors . I am here to support this request for a Planned Un it Development rezon ing for our proposed Senior
development al the comer of US 285 and South Pennsylvania and to thank you also for waiving the permit and
development fees applicable to the PUD rezoning . Thank you very much . We appreciate your generosity in
that matter . Our proposed development is a fabulous five story, with 62 unit residences , which will be affordable
lo lower and moderate income seniors . We are very lucky tonight to have our archltect. .. we th ink he walks on
w,,ter . He Is going to talk a little bit more , as only the architect can, about what a great building th is will be for
our community . Our development gives Englewood sen iors an affordable option to ra 'Tlain In Engl e wood , as
they downsize from their single family homes . It will also benefit the City by aiding in the revitalization of th e
area surrounding Swedish and improving the landscape along Highway 285 . The Board wishes to reiterate our
appreciation of our cooperative working relationsh ip with the City. We sincerely hope that we can look forward
to your continued partnership In this exciting endeavor . We can 't wait. We are so excited . And , thank you
again for your partnership . We appreciate it.
Mayor Wolosyn said thank you Shelley .
(Clerk's Note : Mr. Odell was us ing a slide presentation as he was describ ing the development.]
Otis Odell with Odell Architects said also here tonight Is Lee Mason, an Associate with our company and the
project manager for this development. We apprec iate the opportunity to present this to you tonight. Maybe •
some of you have heard the statistic In our country, every 8 seconds a baby boomer turns 60 . We have been
involved in ovs , 3,000 un its of affordable housing and we are very close to this Issue of affordable housing and
sen ior housing . We reccgnlze the need locr,i 'y, as , .. ~II as nationally. So th is facility is be ing designed lo
provide 62 un its of age restricted and afforda ble hou.,. :o accommodate that portion of the ag ing population
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lhal calls Englewood home. It Is being designed wllh that population In mind . As Tricia said , It ls located at the
comer of US 285 and South Pennsylvania . I want to go to the next sllda and show how the parking circulation
works. As you are procaed lng north bound on Pennsylvania, the northem most acca11, Into Iha building, Is the
entry Into the parking lavel. So we are parking 39 cars below the building on grade and then you circulate
through that parking area and exit back out onto Pennsylvania ... at the sou them exit. We have aligned this exit
with the ntrance to the parking lot across the street, where we have 20 additional surface spots. And as Tricia
mentioned, we are meeting the parking requirements of the City of Englewood. The building Incorporates a lot
of outdoor space. So, what we are proposing Is that even though we are asking for a 10 foot setback on the
south side, we have set the building back nearly 30 feet and incorporated a community garden at the southern
edge of the slte ... an opportunity for the residents to garden . We have used this Idea, this concept, In another
senior housing development and II has proven to bo extremely successful In terms of bringing the resident
population together and creatln,; a great quality of life. There Is also an outdoor deck, a patio, a space at the
second level of the building , which is directly above lhl' Darking , creating an opportunity for residents to gather
and to enjoy the east and southern sun in an outdoo • s1 1ace . And then, we also have created an upper level
outdoor space at the comer of Iha building so that this ·~cation , where the views are very prominent and
exciting , can be enjoyed by Iha entire building and not n st a single resident at that corner. So , we have
incorporated a sign ificant quantity of outdoor space , ·,,,,.,ding Individual decks off the living un its. Other
characteristics that are appropriate for senior llv inG ,,,,,we the close-In parking , the covered parking and a
clearly defined entrance into the buildi ng. A couple or po ints that we wanted to make about the design ... we
have a covered trash area and pick up al this locat ion and each fioor of the bu,ldinJ , of course , Is served by a
trash chute for the residents , so they can drop their trash In the chute and then the wt ,oie trash operation
becomes very tid y, undercover and controlled . We also have bicycle parking that is covered ... we are meeting
that criteria for bicycle parking on the site . As we looked at th• building design , we wanted to carefully look at
the massing and the context of the neighborhood . This Is the proposed developm ant at this location . You can
see that next door there is a building of similar height and ma.sing and that that similar massing is throughout
the neighborhood and even crosses 285 . We think ii Is Important that ii respond lo 1he context of the
neighborhood . As we get to a smaller scale building here , our building tends lo step down lo the east and meet
that building and also create opportunities fo, sunlight to gel Into all the units as it steps down.
Mr. Odell said we modeled the neighborhood and really looked carefully at the massing and the context. Mr .
Odell pointed out the location of the proposed development on the slide . So , he said , we have given careful
consideration for how it fits in!o the scale and mass ing of the existing context. Very quickly, what we developed
here Is a U-shaped plan , minimizing the corridors, putting the stairs on the inside so that they are not laking up
the exterior wall, capitalizing on all the glass that comes into the units, creating more livability within those units,
and then using the opportunity, where the corridors Intersect, to create more public or common space for the
residents . A simple Idea . The building mater ials really helped articulate the massing and the scale. Vo/e have a
combination of materials ... prominenlly on the west elevation ... loward Pennsylvan ia ... is brick . And then we are
also using stucco and siding as other exterior materials . You can start to see how exterior decks also break up
an~ articulate the exterior. The main body of the building Is actually al 58 feet. Just ~elow the 60 fool height
requirement , there is an accent wall that extends up a cou ple of feet and then ther• is a stair lower that provides
roof access that extends up to 64 feet. Here you can get a look al a conceptual sketch of the building from !he
southwest and now you can start to sea how, through some shading deviet.s , th e use of materials and overall
massing, the building scale Is broken down and .\Je::omes qull e understandeole and articulate. And with the tree
plantings , along both 285 and Pennsylvania, we create a significant pedestr ian experience that is enjoyable at
the street level. Here you can see the stair that was talking about, as ii comes up to provide roof access . So
this Is from the southeasl...285 ... in the alley ... and again you can start to .;ee how the building oteps giving
opportunities for light to pene:rate Into the units and reail y respcadlng to some of the context on the adjacent
parcel . As we think at out and listen to the Planning Department of the City of Englewood talk about this Idea of
sub-area plans , this Is truly an Infill project and from the standpo int of community planning ond the community
planning prospective, wa think this fits well with in Its context. And It responds well to the other uses and scale
and massing that are In th is Immediate neighborhood end we see II as a really nice infill development that
Englewood can be proud of end that the residents can really enjoy . Thank you .
Mayor Wolosyn asked if anybody had any questions .
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Council M-,rnber Barrentine aald II I'm looking at this now .. .l would be looking ecro11 the 1traet from
Hampden? Mr. Odell said correct . Ma. Barrentine said where In this d011 the reta i go? Mr . Odell said,
ectually, the retail zoning la proposed only for this parcel .. .lt la only for the we1tem parcel acro11 Pennsylvania
where the parking lot occur,. Ms . Barrentine said on thal alde ... lt 11 nol connected with the building or
undameath II .• .It ls on tha side where there 11 Just a parklna lot? Mr. Odell 1ald that 11 correct. Ma. Barrentine
said and whJre would It go , It couldn't go In the parking lot or It wouldn 't be a parking lot anymore, so where Is
II? Mr. Odell said If there was any future development on that site , It would also have to eddreaa the
requirement for parking for the residential building. Ms. Barrentine said so II ls not going In at the aeme time, we
are not doing any retail now? Mr . Odell said correct. Ms . Barrentine said ~kay. Mr . Odell said we are Just
requesting that the zoning be put In place for any future flex ibility. Ms . Barrentine said okay .
Mayor Wolosyn asked If there wer11 any other questions .
Council Member Woodward sa id that was Community Development asking for that? Mr. Odell said II was
Initialed by Community Development and, again . as Tricia mentioned, in response to other uses that are in the
neighborhood and to maintain flexibility for that portion of the site . Mr. W'lOdward said right.
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Council Member Barrentine said one more question . On this drawing hare, are those the tops of the roofs that
are like terraced out and there is building underneath some of those? Mr . Odell said that is right. Ms .
Barrentine said Is the building only the brown shaded area or is some of that terrace that I'm looking at, that's
got the little white tile on them? Mr . Odell said there is occupied space ... residential living units below that. Ms .
Barrentine said okay, only ii is lower, so that you are doing the top of ii like a terrace or patio? Mr. Odell said we
are studying that opportunity . Ms . Barrentine said okay, I see, so II ls only that aclual center part that will be
open as a court yard? Mr. Odell said this portion right here covers the parking structure and there is no living
units below ii, so ii occurs at the second level. Ms . Barrentine said okay . Mr . Odell said that is the basis for the
U-shaped plan . Ms . Barrentine said okay . Mr. Odell said does that help, does that make sense? Ms . •
Barrentine said yes, some of those have units under them so that makes sense. She said thank you . Mr. Odell
said thank you .
Mayor Wolosyn asked If there was anyone else who wanted to speak during the Public Hearing . There was no
one else .
COUNCIL MEMBER WOODWARD MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO CLOSE THE FUBLIC '!EARING
TO GATHER INPUT ON COUNCIL BILL NO. 19, PERTAINING TO THE SOUTH PENNSYl VANIA STREET
SENIOR HOUSING PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT (PUD) LOCATED AT SOUTH PENNSYLVANIA
STREET AND HIGHWAY 285 IN THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD.
Ayes: Council Members Barrentine, Mccaslin, Moore, Wolosyn , Woodward,
Tomasso , Oakley
Nays : None
Motion carried and the publ ic hearln~ ~lnsed.
Mayor Wolosyn said I would like to thank everybody who tes tified at both Public Hearings . Thank you .
11 . Ordinances, Re ■olutlon and Motions
(a) Approval of Ord lna ~••s on rlrsl Riadlng
(I) Director Kehm presented a recommendation from Iha Department of Public Works to
adopl a bill for an ordinance aulhorlzing an lntergovemmenlal Agreement between the Colorado Department of
Transportation and the City of Englewood that pertains to financial commitments related to the design and
construction of ·south Broadway Streetscepe-Tufts to Belleview" project . He said the Droadway Streetscepe
project extends from Tufts Avenue to Belleview. The project was Initially applied for under the ISTEA program •
In 1999, again In 2002, again In 2003 and at Council's direction we reapplied In 2005, under the new program ,
which Is the Safe Accounlabie Flexible Efficient Trensportatlon Equity Aci-Legecy for Users . We did receive
funding under this most recent program . That money would be avall~ble for design In 2007 and canstructlon
probably In 2008 . The scope of the project Is, basically , to reconfigure the existing medians on South
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Broadway. We would add ra ised landscape planters , vary similar to what we built on the north end of BroadWay
between Yale and Hampden , with 10me land1caplng and lrrlgetlon . The project Is an enhancement project .
Typically, thoff ara funded on an 80/20 match with the Federal govemment and In this particular Instance there
11 a cap of $800 ,000 .00 on enhanc■ment project■. To that end , Englewood '• local match II a total of
$269 ,000 .00 , out of the total estimated coat of $669,000 .00 , with the Federal participation of $600,000 .00 . That
money h11 been budgeted for two years now In the Pub lic Improvement Fund . Aga in, the two primary purposes
for this project were one : to Improve safety along th is reach of Broedway and second , to prov ide some
re&Rc>n able level of landscaping to soften the South Broadway Straetscape . We will continuously keep In mind,
as th is project Is des igned , the ongoing drought conditions In Co lorado , as well as the City's long and short term
costs associated with maintaining landsca~lng . We will mlnim :ze those as best we can to make this an efficient
project.
Mayor Wolosyn as ked II there were any questions for Mr. Kehm . There ware none .
COUNCIL MEMBER TOMASSO MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 11 (1) (I)
• COUNCIL BILL NO . 23 .
COUNCIL BILL NO . 23, INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOMASSO
A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL CONTRACT BETWEEN THE
COLORADO DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPO RTATION (COOT) AND THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD ,
COLORADO THAT PERTAINS TO FINANCIAL COMMITMENTS RELATED TO THE DESIGN AND
CONSTRUCTION OF "SOUTH BROADWAY STREETSCAPE-TUFTS TO BELLEVIEW" PROJECT STE M395 •
011 , IN THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD.
• Mayor Wolosyn asked ii there was any discussion . The re was none .
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Vote re1utt1 :
Motion carried .
Ayes : Council Members Barrentine, Mccaslin, Moore , Wolosyn, Woodward ,
Tomasso , Oakley
Nays : None
(b) Approval of Ordinances on Second Reading
There were no addit ional Items submitted for approval on second read ing . (See Agenda Item r .;onsent
Agenda .)
(c) Resolutions and Motions
(I) Director Kehm presented a recommendation from the !)apartment of Public Works to
adopt a resolution supporting the Englewood Env ironmental Foundation 's de dication of a right-of-way on West
Floyd Avenue . He said this is an Interesting Item . Again, I Riso represent EEF , the Englewood Environmental
Foundation . Back In the mid-sixties, as Cinderella City was oe lng developed , the City vacated a sect ion of West
Floyd Avenue ... particularly the area between Delaware and Cherokee. As the project came to fru ition , the
developer rededicated Floyd Avenue In Its present configuration . This left e triangular sl ,dped piece of property
on the north side of Floyd between Delaware end right through Cherokee. A few years ago, as we were
redeveloping Cinderella City, we formed the Englewood Environmental Foundation, and a couple of years ago ,
we hed a property owner on Delaware and Floyd that approached us about want ing to build a fence that would
encroach Into tho City right-of-way. Whan we looked Into that , we found that that piece of property was , In fact ,
under the ownersh ip of the Englewood Environmental Foundatlon ... we Inherited It. So we got to looking at It
and we also realized that for the past, rou 1;hly, 40 years , the south end of Cherokee Street, Just north of Floyd ,
where we have a traffic signal and all , and the alley 'lCcesa point that goes across that paved parking area and
the sidewalk on the other side of Floyd ... were on EEF property and not on the City right-of-way . II was never
rededicated . So, at this time what we are asking to do Is support EEF In ded ica ting that Cherokee Street right-
ol-way , the Floyd right-of-way and the alley-way, back lo the City.
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Mayo f Wolosyn aaked W there were any questions for Mr . Kehm . There were none .
COUNCIL MEMBER WOODWARD MOVEV , AND IT WAS SECONDED , TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 11 (c)
(I) • RESOLUTION NO . 50 , SERIES OF 2008 .
RESOLUTION NO . 50 , SERIES OF 2006
A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE RIGHT-OF -WAY DEDICATION OF WEST FLOYD AVENUE AT SOUTH
CHf:qOKE E !;TP EET , THE ALLEY ACCESS AND SIDEWALK ALONG FLOYD AVENUE BY THE
ENGLEWOOD ENVIRONMENTAL FOUNDATION , INC . TO THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD , COLORADO .
Mayo r Wolosyn as ked if there was any dlscuss l~n . There was none .
Vote reaults:
Mo ti on carried.
Ayes : Council Membe rs Barrentine , McCas ll n, Moore, Wolosyn , Woodward ,
Tomasso , Oakley
Nays : None
(ii ) Director Kahm presented a recommendation from the Department of Public Work s to
adopt a resolution supporting the Englewood En vi ronmental Foundation 's grant of a li cense to Rodger Gil son for
use of property adjacent to 3290 South Delaware Street. He sa id In conjunction with the prev ious piece , a
couple of years ago Mr. Gilson , who lives at the corner of Floyd and Delaware , approa ched us about just
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wanting to encroach out into ... what he thought wa s public right-of-wa y ""' it turned out to be EEF property ... a •
few feet for a fence . As we got to looking at It and discuss ing It with hln ,, st he has on the south side of his
pro perty is th is narrow triangular asphalt piece of property . With some discussions , he became curious as to
whether or not he couldn 't do something with that to soften up that side of his property. So , as EEF looked at 11 ,
we don 't see any use for that property right now by EEF or by the Cit y, in the near future. So , we are
recommend ing that we be allowed to exe rcise a li cense with him that would allow him to ... basically , it Is from
the west edge of his garage back over to Delaware and include tha t piece of property in his yard .. .fen ce ii and
mainta in it. What we are propos ing is, a li cense that starts out with a three year term and th en would be
renewab le annually , as suming th ings are go ing wel l.
Mayo r Wolosyn as ked if there were any que stions.
Coun cil Member Woodward said I dro ve by that site today and I am just curious , as you sa id, it is all pavem ent.
Do you know what he intends to do with that? Mr. Kahm sa id I do. Mr. Woodward said I understand he Is going
to put a fen c~ out to the sidewal k or to ... Mr . Kehm sa id he will stop short of the sidewal k ... probably abou t a foot
and a half, f,om our discuss ion ... it will be a privacy fe nce that will ru n nort', and south from hi$ garage out to
Floyd and then will run west over to De laware . As he gets to the front edg e of his house , the ord inance will
requ ire the fence to be lowered to , I bel'•ve 36" or 42 ", I'm not sure what that fence ordinance actually requ ires ,
but he will lower that down. And then on the Ins ide of that ha will landscape it, he will sod It and It will become
part of his yard . Mr. W~odward said he will landscape It and what? Mr. Kahrn said landsca pe It and put sod In.
Mr. Woodward sa id okay , so then he Intends to remove the asphalt? Mr . 1-:ahm said In the original discuss ion
with him, EEF is go ing to remove the asphal t and as a condition of this , he will absorb the sidewalk on Floyd
Avenue as part of the concrete util it:• program .
Mayor Wolosyn as ked If there were any othe r quest ion s.
Council Member Woodward said so we 've got a six loot privacy fen ce ru nning the distance from , bas icall y, his
garage, go ing to the south and then back to Delaware ... ls what I hear? Mr . Kahm sa id 11 will stop short of •
Delaware because of the site triangle at Delaware . Mr . Woodward sa id okay.
COUNCIL MEMBER TOMASSO MOVED, ANO IT WAS SECONDED , TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 11 (c)
(II)• RESOLUTION NO . 51, SERIES OF 2006.
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RESOLUTION NO . 51 , SERIES OF 2006
A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE ENGLEWOOD ENVIRO ll!l,I ENTAL FOUNDATION , INC . (EEF)
GRANTING RODGER GILS ON A LICENSE TO USE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO 3290 SOUTH DELAWARE
STREET , ENGLEWOOD, COLORADO .
Mayor Wolosyn asked If there was any discu ssion . There was none .
Vote raautto:
Mot ion carried .
Ayes : Council Members Barrentine , Mccaslin, Moore , Wolosyn , Woodward,
Tomasso, Oa kley
Na ys: None
Director lc ahm sa id than k you very much .
Mayor Wolosyn sa id than k you Ric k.
(iii) Director Bla ck presented a recomm endation from the Depa rtme nt of Parks and
Recreat ion to approve, by moti on , a coope rat ive agreement with Englewood Un leashed that clarifie s roles and
respons ibili ties of each of the partie s. He said several weeks ago Michael Flaherty, Deputy City Manager , and I
presented a copy of th is draft to Cit y Council and we went through a number of issu es that were In th ere . I think
you are aware of the informal ag reement , or pa rtnership , tha t we have had with En gl ewood Unlea $hed for
sev eral years . A number of the members of Eng lewood Unl eashed we re Invol ved with the Dog Par k Tas k Force
that Co unc il charged a group to , to form a formal dog park . They ha ve been invol ved with that , they ha ve been
involved with the Parks and Recreation Comm iss ion and they ha ve spoken , on a number of occasions , to City
Cou r.cil. What this agreement does is formal ize the relationsh ip between the City and the non-profit. The jest of
the agr6 .. ,ent, bas ica lly, is that th ey will he1p provi de ma intenance and do fund ra ising for improvements to th e
park . In part icula r, now they are selling brick pavers to help support the project and the Parks and Recreation
Commiss ion also charged Englewood Unlea shed with coming up with a name, or a list of names , to be
presented to the Parks and Recreation Commis sion , which they will narrow dow~ and forwa rd a list to City
Council to name the new dog park . So, we are very excited about th is partn ership with th is group . I thi nk you
heard a number of these people ta lk earl ier about their pass ion , their commi tment and I thin k ymI have all seen
that over the last couple of years . I would be happ y to answer an y questions that you ma y have on the
agreement .
Mayor Wo losyn as ked if there were any questi ons for Mr . Blac k. There were none .
COUNCIL MEMBER TOMASSO MOVED , AND IT WAS SECONDED , TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 11 (,·
(Ill)· A COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT WITH ENGLEWOOD UNLEASHED THAT CLARIFIES ROLES AND
RESPONSIBILITIES OF EACH OF THE PARTIES .
Mayor Wolosyn asked if there was any discuss ion .
Mayor Woiosyn sa id I have one po int of discuss ion . Thank you for address ing the issue s I had with it.
Vote raault■:
Motion carried .
Ayes : Council Members Barrentine , McCaslln , Moore , Wolosyn , Woodward ,
Tomasso, Oak ley
tlays : None
Mayor Wolosyn said than k you .
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(a) Mayo(s Cho ica
(I) Mayor Wolosyn said we have the Issue that we are go ing to address In Study Session
on our a-mall accounts . I th ink we can make this brief and rather simple . In th is memorandum from Le igh Ann ,
we have a number of options that each one of us can, on our own . subscribe to . Right now we have Iha generic
e-mail accounts that ere on the Web end somebody can click on under the Mayor and say •contact the Mayor"
or "contact Council Member Barrenl ine•, but It goes to th is general web site end lhen Leigh Ann directs it to us .
I personally Ilka that, because a lot of times II ls somebody asking for simple information that , If ii came to me , ii
would be a burde n for me ... 11 would just add one more layer for me to kick II back to staff . However , some
people have expressed interest In having ii go direct lo the ir account and I think the conclusion we had , when
we were discuss ing this , is tha! each one of us ... and correct me If I am wrong Dan and Gary ... can have an
ortlon and th at would be our responslb illly lo lake care of that. Is there anybody who wants to discuss II?
l.:ouncll Member Woodward said of Iha four options , the last 011e ... lhe use of the City e-mail accounts .. .l
personally would choose that lf...l th ink what brought this up was an e-mail that was add ressed to Bob that
ended up coming across to everybody , which was kind of a surprise in that when you look al your name on the
web site with an e-ma il address , 1 th ink ii is almost implied that tha t is going to go to you if you hit that and gel
an a-mall. So , for my personal choice , I wnuld choose the very last one and have an e-mail sent directly to my
City account. I unders tand tha t there may be some open record laws with that and I feel fine about that. I don 't
ha ve any problem with that. Thal is my opin ion.
Mayor Wolosyn sa id are you mak ia g that a Counc il reque st? Mr . Woodward sa id that would be a req c,esl fu
myself , yes.
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Council Member Barrentine said Iha only concern that I ha ve in bringing up part of what you ha ve already •
addressed , is that ii gives people the impress ion that they are sending you something that is only go ing to you .
So, I don 't mind the open records act or anything with the City eilher ... however, people are under the mistaken
impress ion that when they send something , It Is only going to go to me or to you , that they may be able lo go
ahead and vent or present an idea or some ining with some amount of privacy. Then , obviously , we all have a
cho ice then if we want to send it on to staff or do something elss . I would only request that , that directs them
that if they choose that option that ii may not just go to that person directly .
Mayor Wolosyn said I think I will speak for Le igh Ann. The inc ident with Bob is the on ly time ii ever happened
and ii was an odd set of circumstances . And that Is what, Inde ed, opened th is whole discussion , because I did
think things came directly lo me , but since they went through the web, and sh ~ is the web master, she saw
them.
Council Member Barrentine said I was pretty aware of that , but I have had the comment made to me a couple of
times ... lhat situation totally aside ... thal people were uncomfortable us ing it when they found out that it did go
through that process . So , onl y that they found out after the fact , so if it wou ld just let them know that if they use
lhel opt ion , or .. .l have my e-mail , my direct line there , so as long as ii would give them the option lo say ... lf you
want to send th is directly to them , that they know and if otherwise ... She said I am not talk ing about his
situation, I am tal ki ng about what other comments lhat have been made . There are people who did not feel
comfortable using ii , once they found out.
Council Member Woodward said there can still be Iha option on the web site that says , all of Cou ncil ... ! mean
you click that button and then you know that you are sending someth ing to everybody on Council. Bui if I want
to send something to John or Ray or Bob or you , ~r anybody , then I want lo know that I press that button and
I'm sending It to you .
Mayor Wolosyn said can we agree tha t ·ve will each go and pursue It and I'll ta lk to Leigh A11n about a thin 1, that •
says the Web Master may revlew ... ur ,der other ones. Ms . Bmentine ••Id okay ... lhanks . Mayor Wolosyn sa id
that sounds great.
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(II) Mayor Wolosyn said Gary and I ware talking 9nd ha polr .'•-d out an article In Colorado
Munlclpalltles about the growing number of cities In Colorado that hav~ foreign sister cities and since ha Is going
to Germany and since tha City Manager of the town he Is visiting has been here, I asked him to give me a little
more Information about the town •ad about sister cltles ... for another meetlng ... probably our next meetlng ... so
that we can dlscu11 if we want to nave a sister city with this German town .
(Iii) Mayor Wolosyn sa id on Thurso .;y , am going to have surgery to remove a bladder
stone . It Is an outpatient process at Keiser up an Franklin Street. Even though it Is not supposed ta be a long
recovery, depending on haw I feel, I may take off next Monday far the scheduled Boards and Commiss ions
lntervi&ws . I have to worry about my health .
(b) Council Members' Choice
(i) Council Member Barrentine :
1. She said I wanted ta thank the Englewood Housing Authority . I like the work they have done an this
project and the direction it is going and the Community Development Department and their work an ii.
2. She said also with Community Develapment ... l know we are still only in the process , but there has been
a lat of work done on this BID and I wanted ta thank Community Development , especially Darren , on the way he
has worked with the merchants and moving this forward . Where ii goes from here is up ta all of us , but I
appreciate the work that it has taken ta get this far .
(ii) Council Member Mccaslin said I don 't know haw many of you received this letter from a
company called 'Wipeaut Graffiti." I received It and talked ta the gentleman who i~ President of Wipeaut Graffiti
and he is working with the City of Arvada . They have a reduct from Australia th at is really working well. He
just would m:e to came and give a presentation ta Counc il, and maybe let the business owners in Englewood
know that th is is available to them . I am sure .we couldn't afford hisser ,sand you know, he is not asking for
us to hire him lo wipe out our graffiti. He was really Interested In hel~ •~ , out with graffil!, so if you would want
us to invite him, glve me some direction .
City Manager Sears said we could do a Study Sessian ... we could have him r.ome ta a Study Session if you
would like . Mr . Mccaslin said okay .
Council Member Barrentine said could we broaden It just a little bit , so that we are noljust focusing on th is ... if
Publ ic Works had an opportunity to identify some other alternatives, or companies or styles or whatever we use
and I would like to gel II all at one lime, at one meeting .
Council Member Woodward said I thin ,. Public Works and Code Enforcement. .. And , Mayor Wolosyn sa id, just a
review of how we deal with graffiti , because we do have a plan . Ms . Barrentine said if wa could do It all at one
time, tha t would be great .
Counc il Member Tomasso said and if we could invite the Schaal District tao , because they have a graffiti
problem . Mayor Walasyn said that Is a goad Id ea Ray .
Council Member Oakley said I have been walling far an opportunity ta talk about graffiti, so I am totally , hearlily
support that.
13. City Man1g1~l Report
City Manager Sears did not have any matters ta bring before Council.
• 14 City Attom,y'a Report
(a) City Attorney Brotzman s~,d we will be bringing the Public Hearing for the BID forward an July
10'" to determine sufficiency , as discussed In Study Session .
1!1191ewood City Council
J,,nes,2008
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15. AdJoumment
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