HomeMy WebLinkAbout2003-11-17 (Regular) Meeting MinutesENGLEWOOD CITY COUNCIL
ENGLEWOOD , ARAPAHOE COUNTY, COLORADO
I. Call to Order
Regular Session
November 17, 2003
The regular meeting of th e Englewood C ity Coun cil was ca lled to order by Ma yo r Br adsha w at 7:3 2 p.m.
2. Invocation
The invocati on was g1v t n by Coun cil Me mber Nabhob..
3. Pledge or Allegiance
The Pled ge of All egiance was led by Mayor Bradshaw .
4. Roll Call
Present: Counci l Members Nahhol z, Moo re, Grazuli s Garrett, Wolosy n,
Y urchick , Bradshaw I
Ab sent: None
A quorum was present.
Al so present: City Manager Scars
5. Minutes
Cit y Attorney Brotzman
Assistant City Manager Fl aherty
City Clerk Elli s
Municipal Jud ge Atenci o
Director Ol so n. Safety Services
Dirx:1or Ross , Publi c Work s
Dircuor Fonda , Utiliti es
Director Long, Library Services
Director Bl ac k, Parks and Recreati on
Open Sphcc Manager Lee
(a) COUNCIL MEMBER GAAZULIS MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO
APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR CITY COl'~CIL MEETI. 'G OF NOVEMBER 3,
2003.
May0r Brad shaw as ked if th ere wa s ;my di sc.u ssion. The re was none.
Vote results :
Ayes:
Nays:
Ab stain :
Moti on carried .
Co un cil Members Nabholz. Garrell , Wolosyn, Yurc hi ck. Gra zu lis .
Brad shaw
None
Coun ci l Member Moo re
(b) Cit y Council Recognition and Swear ing In.
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~layor Brad shaw said thi s 1s a bi tterswee t 1ime . We have co mmcms fr om Co uncil Members who arc
leav in g us. We will slarl wi th our Co un cil Member fr om Di slri cl One .
(i) Com menzs by those dc p:1rti ng Ci 1y Co un cil.
Co uncil Mem be r Nab holz said I think ·1ha n'( you· is a ve ry sma ll word fo r wha1 I ha ve expe rien ced in my
six yea rs on Ci ly Co uncil . Of course. yo u ar...-: going 10 ha ve your vall eys and yo ur hill s. but !h ere hove
bee n a lot more hill s. I have been so fortu nate to be clec1ed by the pcopi e. to have you enc oura ge me
d urin g the da rk lim es . bu! also I'> have an aweso me City Mana ger , Assisiar.t City M:mn gc r, Direl.'.lors. staff
and Cit y cmploytcs. I never did an)1hing alone . l 've alwa ys be lie ved in .oartner ships bet wee n citi zens,
busine sses. gove rnment and yo u have all owed me to do that. And ir ;s a vc ry humblin g expe rie nce . It has
been a ve ry big !ea rnin g expe ri ence and I tl.'mk yo u fo r yo ur support . There was appl ause fr om th e
audie nce.
Counci l Member Grazu li s said we ll yo u know me .. .I am neve r at a loss fo r word s. Mayor Bradshaw asked
her ir she had 3 li st. She replied yes. Mayor Bradshaw said for those of you who do not know, Jul ie ma de
li sts and if we ca ll ed on her too late in the mee ting. she wo uld go on a nd on wi th th ese li sts. And th ey we re
ve ry important item s on th e list.
Counci l Member Gra zuli s sai d fir s! of all I wo ul d like 10 thank my fa mil y fo r giving up Mo ndays wi thout
me. Maybe it was good. ma ybe it wasn ·1. We uSt~ to cclc br:ue Monday s ns fa mil y home evening and now
we ca n do that onc e more, and it is kind of binc rS\l 'CCI in 1ha1 way. because I wou ld love 10 be here , but l
will love bein g at home also. I thank them fo r all their support . Thi s has bee n a class ac t, thi s Co uncil, and
worki ng wit h yo u has trul y been a pl easure. I don't know how else to say it except for thank yo u. Thank
yo u fo r all the enco ura gem e nt and suppo rt and th e ideas. And I am glad th at we were nev er 100 pe r cent
ri ght. beca use it did prov ide th at much needed diversi1y, which is li ke it is in our co rnmunity ... becau se Wt •
don't all agree on a lot of lh ings . I wa nt 10 th ank my cons1i1uen1 s, and th at is not a dirt y word, it is a very ,
very good word if you loo k it op in Web s1cr·s. because the y arc th e peop le who yo u c,we all yo ur deci sio n•
maki ng to and yo u mu st li ste n and yo u mu st be accou nlable to them . The y were my boss . actua lly . I was
ju st tryi ng 10 carry o ut so me of the thi ngs that !he y wanted . Our Cny Mana ge r Gary . Mike . Sue, Su san.
Lcis h An n and Pa ul cua ... th cy we re my right •hand r eo ple and Ijost wan1 to th ank you fo r all of yo ur
cnc ouragt ment a nd all yo ur support . I think we have, in Eng lewood, one of the grea tes t Jud ges . We do
and he is ve ry foi r wit h child re n. if yo u ever se e him in ac ti on. he rea ll y is. Our Community Deve lopment
Department, Bob and hi s st aff, th ey always do the best Ih a! th ey can possib ly do fo r the communit y. Ani.1
C\'C O th ough we don·1 always agree, we are going to arr iv e 111 the same place. j ust two differen t path s. l
ha ve grea r tru st in Frank Gryg lewicz . I always have had great tru st in him , lhat he is tr yin g to do !he best
fo r our Cit y and tr yi ng to always maintain that 10 pc:r cent. We have a very foir Mum an Re lat ions
dep artm ent wit h Sue Ea ton and I have alway s tru sted her decisions. Do n In gle and hi s staff arc abso lut ely
wonderful , espec ia ll y si nce I have bee n dea lin g wi lh th em rece ntl y. They arejus1 trul y, tru ly good people.
I have a love affair wi th 1~c Library, of co urse . The y arc absolut ely wonderful. ll is one of the be st
libra ri es around . If yo u l'IJve n't bern there. I en co ura ge yo u tu go ofte n. Even with the re du ced number of
peo pl e, th ey arc s1ill ma intain ing the bc:-t and it's grea t. Publi c \V ork s ... thcre is a lot or wo rk that is out
th ere 1ha1 yo u don't notice 1ha1 is being j t;,e But. yo u wo uld notice if it was n·1 ... wi 1h th e s1 rec1 s, th e
light s and the ma intenan ce. They do a spcc lacul ar job ... Ken Ross and hi s guys . We have had our
differe nces over the years. b ut th ey arc great. P:u ks and Recrea tion .. .J errell is one of my mos t fav orite
people . Mc is probab ly one of the mos ! hones! peo pl e who wan ts to do the bes t for Englewood. I ca n't
wa it un1il Pir ate!, Cove open s. Ca pi tal projects wi1h Ri ch Kahm ... he is so co mmin cd 10 1h e City , he is a
ma gic ian. He can pull magical thin gs out of a ha1 and make them happen . I-l e trul y ca n. The Ci ty
Attorn ey 's office ... top notch. I always have co mp lete tru sl in the m ... Dan. Nancy, Dugga n and the re st of
yo ur staff. yo u are to be co mm end ed for all the dec isions and the rou gh th ing s yo u ha ve 10 go through .
Chri s Olso n and all of hi s pe opl e. the police and the fi re. they care the most abou t Englewood . Utilit ies ,
wi th Stu Fo nda and hi s staff You kn ow whe n I ca me on board fi ve yea r:-ago. I did not kn ow th at much •
abo ut th e wa ter si1uati on in Engle wood . I ha ve lea rned so mu ch and I have so much respect and I am so
pro ud to be a c iti ze n of Englewood fo r 1he last 24 yea rs. becau se of all the right din:cti ons !h at have bee n
1akc n wi tti th e wa1t:r. When anythin g ca me up before C.o un cil rega rding wa ter . I kn ew i[ St u had hi s name
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on ii, it w:is 10 be tru sted and was okay. So, I just wanl to thank y.J u St u. h ta ste s good too ... I 1hink ;,
tas1cs great I was at a Kiwan is meeting 1his last week and it w:i.s b1ough 1 forwa rd thal so me of the
members of the Chamtx r, who vehemently w,:nt agai nst the l:ead tax . and II did n.:,1 pa ss ... thnt per haps
so me of the se businesses cou ld co me fo rwari.4 :ind hel p sponsor some of the unp lanted flower garde ns,
because wr. don't ha ve the money, and mayt,e they could help spo nso r the parade thi s next year, because
th ose nre so me of the first pl aces we had IC' take mone y out of. I just want 10 end up by noting th at
Englewood is still in good hands wi th nil of you th nt arc still left. I take thi s oppor1u nit y 10 thank yo u all .
am not goi ng away . becau se I am s1ill go in g 10 be serv in g on different commi ttees. but on the oth er side .
So, ma ybe f wi ll be li stened to more, I don't know . I just wa nt you to know th at as I step down. that now. I
am goi ng 10 be your boss and yo u ca n liste n 10 me a little be tt er and I wa nt you to fl y righ t. I love
Englewood and I •.; ;II still be here . Thank yo u. There was applause.
(ii) Fa mily 1'lc mbers and guests of Counci l Membe rs N:tb holz and Grnzuli s were
recogni zed.
(iii) A toke n of apprec iatio n was give n to the depaning Ci ty CoL icil Membe rs.
Cou nci l Members Nab holz and Graz uli s were eac h pre se nted wit h a plaque and fl owe rs.
Mayor Brndshaw sai d Ms. Nabhol L. has served on the Keep Engl ewood Beautifu l Co mmiu ec , Malle y
Center Trust Fund , Co lorado Municipal Leag ue Poli cy Co mmitt ee, Tri-Cities Planning Corru 1ittee,
SchooVCi ty Committee , Code Enfo rcement Advisory Committee. Swedish Task Force and s1 e has been
ve ry active in Di strict No . I and repre se nted her constituents ve ry we ll . Th ank you . she said , it was an
honor to work with yo u. There was a pplause .
Mnyor Brads mw said Ms. Grazulis hllS se rved on the Code Enforce men t Advisory Com miuee, Publi c
Library Boru 1, Colorado Mun ic ipal League Policy Commitlee, School/City Committee, th e P11rnd e, Jubilee
II, and Tent fa lks. Thank yo u, she said, it has bee n an honor working wit h yo u. There was app lause .
(iv) Mayor Brad shaw asked the Cit y Clerk 10 announce the statu s of the electi on.
City Clerk Elli s anno un ced the newly elected Council Member s arc : Distric t I Counc il Member Ray
Tomasso. Di stri ct 3 Council Member Laureu Barrentine, At •Large Council Member Olga Wol osy n and At•
La rge Co un c il Member Mich ael Yurchick.
(v) (Clerk 's note : It was determined th
make a determination of th e election and qualifications of its 1,
, un necessary for Cit) Counci l 10
hip.]
(vi) The new Ci ty Counc il Members were: swo rn in by the donorablc Vincent
Atencio.
(vii) Brief Recep ti on
Mayor Brad shaw sa id we arc now hosting a brief recep ti on in th e Co mmunity Roo m. Pl ea se join us .
Co un ci l n:ccsscd at 7:47 p.m. for a brief reception .
The meeting reco nvened at 8:22 p.m.
(viii) The new member s of Cit y Counci l were sea ted in temporary spaces, after which
the Ci ty Clerk ca lled the roll. with the fo ll owing res ult s:
Presen t:
Ab se nt :
Cou ncil Members Tomasso, Moore. Barrentine, Garrett, Wolosy n,
Yurchick, Brad shri w
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A quoru m wa s present
(ix ) Mayor Brad shaw call ed fur nominati ons fu r th e offi ce of Ma yo r.
CO UNCIL MEMBER WOLOSYN MOVED , AND IT WAS SECONDED , TO NOMINATE
COUN CIL MEMBER GARRETT FOR THE OFFICE OF MAYOR OFTI-IE CITY OF
ENGLEWOOD .
Mayor Brad shaw asked Mr . Ga rrett if he woul d accept th e nomi nation, Co un cil Membe r Ga rrell sa id I
will .
Vote results :
Moti on carri ed.
Aye s:
Nays :
Abstain :
Council Members Barrent ine, Moore, Wolosy n, Yurchick , Toma sso,
Br adshaw
None
Council Member Ga rrett
(x) Mayor Garrett assumed th e Chair .
Ma yo r Garrett ca lled fo r nominati ons fo r th e offi ce of Ma yo r Pro Tern .
COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW MO'/ED TO NOMINATE COUNCIL MEMBER WOLOSYN
FOR THE OFFICE OF MAYOR PRO TEM OF THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD.
Mayor Garren asked if there were an y other nomin ations.
COUNCIL MEMBER YURCHICK MOVED TO NOMINATE COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE
FOR THE OFFICE OF MAYOR PRO TEM OF THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD .
Mayor Garrett asked if there we re any other nominations. Th ere we re none.
Mayor Garrett asked th e Cit y Clerk to cond uct a Roll Call Vote.
Cou ncil Me mbe r Moo re sa id . while I appreci:ll c th e nomin ation, 1 ac tu all y 1hink Olga Wolosyn wo uld be
bett er able 10 serve in the ro le at this time.
Vote res ults :
For Cou ncil Member \Volo syn: Co unci l Mem bers Ba rrenti ne. Moore. Brad shaw, Wolos yn.
Toma ss o. Garre tt
For Council Member Moore: Co unci l Member Yurchick
Coun cil f,.,1c mber Wolosy n was el ec ted Mayo r Pro Tern .
Cou ncil Me mbe r Wolosy n said th ank yo u.
(x i) Permane nt seatin g assi gnments were gi\'cn.
(xii) Family membe rs and guests of Council Membe r~ Barre nti ne and Tomas:,,o we re
recogni zed.
6 . Scheduled Visitors
(a) Coll ee n Bowe n wa s sc hed ul ed to spea k, but was not prese nt .
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(b) Jud y Ro ugh sa1d I am with th e Food Bank of th e Roc ki es . I am here bec au se I wa nted to
cl ar ify wh al 1hc Food Bank of 1he Roc ki es is a nd what we are ap plyi ng for. in term s of th e Aid fo r
Agencie s in Englewood . One of 1hc thin gs I th ink is confu sin g, and I know it was fo r me when I j oi ned 1he
Food Bank . is ~hat many time s people think of food bank s. as th e pl ace where peopl e go 10 pic k up food
wh en th ey arc in need. Food Bank of the Roc kies is not !hat. We are a hu ge organ izr."ion. whi ch is reall y a
ve ry large wareh ouse wh ere agen cies co me 10 us. Age ncies such as oth er food bank s. 'ood pantrie s ... yo u
know there are all differ e nt n.-mes for the types of agencie s. Herc in Englewood. yo u I.ave 15 agencie s that
are m,.inbcrs of th e Food Ba nk of th e Roc kie s. And , wha t I am as kin g for is that yo u iri vest in thos e
agencies an ci h•~lp us. We have done great wo rk with lh ese agencies, but it is no1 eno••gt . ~u. for instance,
out of the l5 agen ci es. 122,713 po unds of food were deli ve red to yo ur Englewood agenci es. But even wit h
1ha1 . they have come up shon . They don't have enough 10 handle the poor in yo ur co mmunit y. Maybe
over the years 1here ha s been a mi sund erstanding in te rms of th e scm ant ic!ii . the words chosen , but we call it
a credit line . And what we do is we establ is h. throu gh the mone y th at yo u grant. a credit line fo r each
particul ar Englewood agency. so that they can come to us and get the food they need fo r their food bank,
food pantr y. teen mother program , halfway hou se or wh ate ver type of agency that tht:y arc . for helping the
needy within your co mmunity . So, for example . if you award us the $3,000.00 that we have asked for, and
we di sburse that money among st those 15 agencie s, lets say one particular agen cy gets $200.00. That
equates at the Food Bank to well over ICXX) pound s of food . Not so mething th at you and I can get at a
groc ery store . We have the power to gi ve them food at a very, ver y ine xpen sive pri ce. There is a price for
some of it . as much as 18 cents a pou:id , but a lot of it is al so free . The average works o ut to about 8 cents
a pound for food for these agencies . So thi s is so mething we look at as very , very important and hope that
you will co nsider helping us out. Because we do ... we get to so many people . The Food Bank of the
Rockies serves 750 agencies in northern Colorado and all of Wyoming . We want this money , whi ch wou ld
solely be for your agencies in Englewood . Not one dime of it wo uld leave the Eng\ewoc,d area . So, I ask
yo u to really loo k at 1his. I know that next mo nth yo u will be reviewing the Aid to Agencies grant s and we
really would like yo ur considcraLion in thi s matter . We feel that maybe, over the years . there has been a
mi sunder sumdi ng about exactly wha t we are trying to do and what we are goin g to use the money fo r. So,
she said. I hope that it is clear to you. I al so have brought wi th me a CD that has an I I-minute little
ex planati on abo ut the Food Bank , whi ch I would love to give to 1he Cit y Clerk and yo u're welc ome 10 view
it. You can vie w it on a co mpuler . Do yo u ha ve an y questi ons at all ?
Council Member Brad shaw sai d doe s Int er-Faith Task Force get food fr om yo u? Ms. Rough replied yes.
Many agencie s th at I am sure yo u have heard of. like the Den ver Resc ue Mi ss ion ... thc big one s, the y gel
food from us, as well as small one s. One of them that I menti oned in the paper work to yo u, that yo u have
here in Englewood , is call ed Age of Good News . And the Age of Good News Center is serving only a third
of the peopl e who want help fr om him . He does n't have the mone y 10 ser ve the balan ce of 1he people. He
is 1urning people away . So thi s money wo uld go to an agency li ke hi s in yo ur communit y and make sure
that he i~ ex tending that rea ch a littl e '1it furth er. Our great co ncern at 1he Food Bank . thi s year. is the fa ct
tha t hc.11 mg costs. as we all kn o w. arc sup posed 10 skyroc ket. One of 1he pro blems with pe ople who
are ... wha l we consid er at ri sk. who are necdy ... wh en the y ge t the ir bill s, a bill is so methin g that co me s to
yo u. yo u loo k a nd see an ex act amount and 1hat 1s what yo u arc goi ng to tr y 10 pa y. Yo ur food bill is so rt of
what eve r yo u can fit in . The se peop le \\ ill omit th at or sacr ifi ce that to pay th at bill th at has been mailed to
them with a prinl cd amount. So wh en yo u think somethin g is goin g up 70 per ce nt , where is that mo ney
suppos ed to co me fr om fo r so meone who is nee dy and who is nt ri sk. And we nrc 1alki ng nboul the
wor kin g poo r pr imaril y. Ve ry few of th ese pe op le are not doin g an ythin g abo UI earning . They are tr yin g,
!h ey are doin g th eir best. but th ey ca n't make e nd s mee t. So. I am as kin g yo u lo pl ease loo k at th at
paperwo rk th at I have se nt to yo u and hope full y yo u wi ll approve the $3,0CX).00 tha t we are loo king fo r al
the Food Bank of th e Roc ki es . Than k yo u.
(c) Am y Meyer was sc heduled to spea k. but was not prese nt.
(d) Jill Wil so n was sc hedul ed to spea k, but was no! prese nt.
(e) Co nnie Rau zi stud I li ve :11 1026 Wes t Princeton Place. whic h is by Ja su n Park . I asked to
<.·omc 10 1his mee tin g toni ght to disc uss th e no-le as h law at Jas(,n Par k. We wa 1chcd the park be in g built .
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I've lived there 43 years. We worked on commi nces so that the pa rk could be huilt . There are org anize d
scx·ce r ga mes. T-ba ll games , vo lle yba ll games. rugby games . so ftba ll games. na g footba ll games. weddings.
cla ss re uni ons. t.:hurch serv it.:cs. graduat ions and l:1r gc fami ly pi cnics, in addi tio n to th e playground
eq uipment. It is rare not to have so meo ne the re. eve n in incle ment wea th er. Si nce the no-le as h was
resc inded at Bates. we have had a marked increase at fo so n Park. And with th e dry weather now, the grass
is terrible . Th ere are large spots and yu u ca n't wa sh away th e fe ces or the urine . The sprinkl er sys 1ems are
not on. I have no idea how th e pa rk is going 10 han dle ii. in th e spr in g. when we will have all our organi ze d
sports goi ng on again . I kn ow thi s subje ct ha s go ne on, and on and on. I've read all the articl es in all the
papers and th at 1s what pro mpted me 10 co me an d spea k toni ght. Agai n. I say. our problems arc th e same at
Ja so n as Bate s had ... th e large amount of dogs and the dama ge th at has bee n done 10 th e parks now.
7. Unscheduled Visitors
(a) Lo ui se Marshall. 302 1 Sou th Loga n Street. said th e fir st thing I ha\'e 10 say ;s
congratu lations to th is new Cit y Cou ncil. I am rea ll y excite d. I am here tonight rep rese nting a passio nate
gro up of Englewood res idents . And . as you all kn ow. we arc very tired of th e tension and bitterness in th e
north area of Englewood that the reacti on 10 man's be s! fri end, th e dog. has created . We arc askin! you
tonig h1 to wipe the slate clean, start ove r and , as ex-Cou ncil Member Grazuli s slated on Oc tober 6 , to
"prcdicalc compromi se". We arc ask in g yo u 10 discuss and forma ll y sup port, ton ight. a Task Force
bc1wcen Engle wood ci tizens and th e Parks and Recreatio n Department 's open space manager. to study the
viability of fencing so me areas of Englewood park s fo r the sa fet y of all park users. We arc not aski ng for
the format ion of spec ifi c dog parks. but rath er 10 ex plore and study th e fea sibility of impl ementing sa fe
areas at already establi shed City parks where dog owners can exercise their best friend and respect th e
safety and ri ghts of all oth er park users . With your bl ess in g we would like to work in conju nct ion with the
Parks and Recreation Departme nt 10 fo rmul ate 11 we ll -orga nized and pl.inned proposal to prese nt to yo u at a
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later date. This would take into acco unt stud yi ng available spa ce, establi shing criteria, ens uri ng safety, •
exploring funding and pri va te donati ons. We pro mi se to in co rporate all commu nit y input to fo rmulate 11
success ful and fair propo sa l. Thank yo u fo r po sitivel y supporting the fo rmati on of thi s Ta sk Force. We
th ink that if we can all work togethe r that we will have harmony in !he co mmunit y and a succe ss ful
resoluti on to thi s com muni ty iss ue . Thank yo u once again fo r yo ur pro mpt respo nse 10 thi s reque st. There
was app lause.
(b) Traci Ras musse n. 4520 So uth Pennsy lva nia Stree t. sa id I have been taking my dog to
Ja so n Park si nce ear ly las t spring . befo re members of1 he communit y 1ha1 we re go in g 10 Bates Logan Park
bega n laking th ei r dogs to Jaso n Park , beca use the off-l eas h law had been changed back 10 on•leash . In th at
time th at I 100k my dog to Jaso n Pa rk before th e Bat es Logan fo lks stnrted joinin g us, I met one dog owner
and her two dog s. T~a t's it. I have to say th at since the people fr om Bales Logan Park ha ve been com in g
10 o ur park , there have been a lot more dogs, but also a lot more se nse of co mmunit y a nd my dogs have
bee n so happy ... just unbelie \'a bly soc ia l and ii is a nice en vironment. h is not th e lonely park th at it used
10 be. I re alize wi th more dog s co min g to one park. there is more responsib ilit y a nd so I wa nted 10 lake ii
upo n myse lf to do a \inl c bit of something . Last Tu esday I se nt uut an e-mail. We have a large num be r of
us that arc on an e-muil li st that co mmuni ca te abo ul our parks and abou 1 takin g car e of th em. By
Wed nes day mornin g. I had several volunt eer s to help me in a clea nu p process fo r an y me sses th at mi ght be
mi sse d in 1he eve nin g hours or fo r. I sup pose. a few neg li ge nt peo pl e o ut th ere th at arc n'l cleaning 1hem up .
In that e-ma il. I also broug ht up a few thin gs :md 1h a1 is just to incre ase th e awareness fo r people to kee p
their dogs off th e socc er field s and ba seba ll fie lds. Even th o ug h. right now. th ere are no ga mes go in g on.
we all know 1hat dogs will wan! to co nt inu e th ei r ow n practice and by sprin gtim e mi ght be runnin g ou t in
th ose areas . So. we ha ve bee n trying hard to stay away fro m th ose area s anyway . I have to say, in th e three
da ys we have bee n doi ng th is. having 1his orga ni zed cleanup day wit h several vo lunt ce rs ... j ust last
Wed nesda y. Frid ay and Sunday ... I have see n a signifi cant difference . So. I guess I j ust w:in ted to le! yo u
fo lks know wha t I'm doing fo r my part. I nm not a bi g pu bli c spea ker. so obvio usly thi s is a \'e ry
pass iona te cause of min e and I rea ll y have enjoyed the increa se of people th at are usin g the park wi th the ir •
dogs . Thank you. There wa s app lause .
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(c) Pe te \V a her. 28 45 Sou1h Lincoln S1ree 1. said I wou ld li ke to ad d m y voice to th e need of o.
Task Force 10 c s1ab lis h pe rm a ne nt off-leash dog parks . I be li eve lhat the tim e is ri gh t to loo k at co ncrete,
prove n improve me nts tha t take in to acco unt th e needs an d concerns of dog owners. no n-dog o wn ers a nd
other users of th e Engle wood Park syste m. The is~ucs 1ha1 we are wo rki ng through here in En glewood,
with regard to o ff-leash dog parks, have been dea h wit h s uccessfull y in dozens of ci ties an d tov.11s
th ro ughout th e co untr y and here in Col orado, incl udi ng De nver. Bes 1 prac ti ces abo und and th ere is ampl e
t.:v idcn ce 10 suggest th at where off-leas h dog parks have been 1hough1ful\y pl ann ed and fo rm all y
es tabli shed. th ey il re i1 po si1i vc impac t on the co mmun ity and arc il n int egra l part of a park sys tem 1hat is
inclusive rath er an cx..:lusivc. I un ders 1a nd 1ha11his is a poli tica ll y charged issue at thi s time. but I ca n think
or no be tt er U'lle lo reso lve it , in a tra nspa rent and pos iti ve way. Lh an by appoi nti ng a Ta sk Force wi1h input
from the open space parks and recreatjon staff. I app laud the Ci ty 's effo rt s to media te thi s dial og ue and I
hope that yo u will co ntinue to be proact ive on thi s iss ue. I would fee l pr iv ileged to help out with such a
group . if Co un cil decides th at thi s is a good idea as we ll . Th ank s ve ry much fo r thi s opportunit y and I hope
yo u will make a decision th at En gl ewood ci ti ze ns can be pro ud of. There was applause .
(d) Mary Basse tt . 3026 South She rman , said be fore I get started with my qu est ions and
di sc uss ion, I wo uld like to prese nt to yo u so me pi cture s 1hat Jill Wil son wo uld have prese nted tod ay if she
co uld ha ve made it and these arc pi c1urcs of Bates Lo gan durin g times that dogs a nd peo ple apparently usCC.
the park . The y arc morning and afternoo n pic t ures . And I don't ha ve 1he ac tua l time s. but I can cenainly
find that out fo r yo u. Ms. Bas sett pre se nted !h e pi ctures 10 Co uncil. When yo u get a chan ce to loo k at
th ese pictures , and unfortunately I don 't ha ve co pies for eve rybody who is here . yo u arc sure to notice how
empty the park is. There arc o nl y a few oc cas ions when there are . I would say . fi ve or six people eating at
a pi cni c table and that is the tc,tal amount of peo ple who are ac tuall y usi ng Bates Logan . Again, I want to
perso nall y empha size , as a perso n who pays tax es in o ur Cit y and see s an empty park , 1 fe el a loss of tax
dolhirs. I don 't sec a community bein g built and I don't sec a benefit to an empt y park . I sec a benefit.
especially to a comm un ity , to a park that is bein g used . Ob vio usly Bates Log an wa s a ve ry strong
co mmunit y builder \lo'l th the dog owners . I also wa nt to emph as ize my sup pon fo r the idea of a Task Force
on thi s iss ue . I hav e attended sev eral of th e Stud ) Sessio ns, beca use my int erest in Cit y gove rnme nt ha s
beco me quit e high with thi s iss ue . 1 have beco me very pe rpl ex ed a nd confu sed on so me of the precesse s
that go on in dec idin g how our Cit y government wo rk s a nd how thin gs are passed and how Code is
chan ged . For instance. I wa s al tod ay 's di sc uss ion where our Cit y Att orne y was rev ie win g so me of the
proc esses a nd the ,,ay 1h ings are presented and passed . One of them be in g a change in Cod e. Th ere would
have to be a Stud y Se ssion be fo re o.n ac tu al chan ge in Cod e. Whe n I we nt to talk to our City Att orney
afle rwards fo r more cl ari fi cati on, es peciall y reg ardi ng the iss ue of rc mo\!in g an off.leas h park fr om a li st of
parks th at we re go in g to be des ignated as off.leash. I as ked if th at wasn 't, essentia ll y. changin g the Cod e.
He started go in g in1 0 ... no, th at ordinan ce , no th is is ... and I did get a liul e co nfu sed. My thought be ing
th at fo r instance. if our Council passed a la w say in g that peop le are all owed 10 dri ve in car s wilh th e
c:ic ccp1 io n of doc um ent Band if doc um ent 8 ke pt changin g. are n't yo u in fa cl chan gin g th e Code ? So. I am
kind of confused aga in abo ut how thin gs arc processed. Basica ll y. wha1 I am as king fo r, in so me re spects,
and would li ke to know as a ci ti zen of En glewood. is cla rifi cat io n on how thi ngs arc run in our gove rnm ent.
Wh en thi ngs ca n l .: put on age nda , when th ey ca n be re moved, especia l!)• if they arc a topic th at hold s a lot
of passio n in the commun ity. Is there a way we ca n gel \'a lu ab le in put fro m our City Parks and Rec reati on
peo ple . be ca use th ey arc the peo ple . I think . that wo uld be bc~l qua lifi ed to make th e decisio ns on the
quali ty of th e vark . what is go in g on in a park and when ii is affec1ing the qu alit y of 1h :11 pa rk . I th ink it
wou ld be great to ha\'c input from them. and have 1ha 1 input lis tened to. as we ll as input fro m th e
community . I'm learn ing more and more abo u1 thi s Ta~\.:. Furce and it so unds like it would be an exce ll en t
opportunit y to ~ta n ge tt ing those peo ple in,·o\ved in th e deci sion maki ng process. ra ther th an hear in g fr om
a se lec t gro up of co mmu nity me mbe rs, who are all very pa~~io na1c on th e subjec t. bu t. what we rea ll y need
to ha ve, a;c the ex perts in vo lved. as we ll . That is all I have 10 say. Than k yo u. There was a pplause .
(e) Tom Bum s, 3600 So uth Bannock Stree t. ~.11 d I j us t wa n1 ed to welco me the new membe rs
of Co um:il...La urett and Ray. and th ank Bev fo r her se rvices as Mayor fo r the past two yea.rs. Do ug, I am
deli ghted th at )'O U agreed to submit yourse lf fo r this posi tio n and some day, when you figu re out how many
hours ii rea ll y 1akes , and yo u wan t to ta lk abo ut it. give me a ca ll . Good luck 10 all of yo u a nd I hope )'OU
do we ll in the futur e a nd so lve all these budge t prob lems and all th ese ot he r we ight y iss ues you have to dea l
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with. I wou ld like 10 thnnk Gary aga in for hi!1 se rvice . beca use he is a terr ific guy . Dan and the srnff in
Englewood, to my mind . ha ve no peers. Yo1 1ave wonde rful peop le to work wi th, as new members of th e
Council , and I think yo u will enj oy it. Thank ,nu. There was app lause.
(f) Jan e Co leman, 3901 South Ga lapago Streu , sa id congratu lati ons to our new Mayor and
our City Co unci l members. I am here tonight 10 upd at~ JOU on enrollm ent in our Eng lewood sc hools.
Se ve ral month s ago, I tal ked wit h yo u re gardin g En glewood becoming an adu h co mmunit y. Englewood
ha s what th ey call an Open Door Poli cy, wh i-:h me ans tha t anyone , fr om any distric t, ca n enroll in any of
lhc Englewood Sc hoo ls. even if they live in surrounding areas . Thi s boos ts our enro llment tota ls and
th ereby giv in g us additiona l fundin g from the gove rnment. Even wi th the Ope n Door Policy, Engle wood
co ntinues to dec line in enro llment. The enrollment to tal gi ves us a fairly accurate vie w of the number of
children in the Englewood area , including the ad dit io ns of the Open Door Policy atte ndees. As of
November 2003 , the enrollment is down 11pprox im ate ly 109 stud ents , including the Ope n Door Poli cy
students ... refercnce: Englewood Sc hoo l News, Volume 26, No. 3, Nove mber "03 . In other wo rds, for
every two sc hool age people movi ng into Engl ewood , four are moving out. There is no need 10 restrict
parks for children th Bt arc not here . Soccer and bBSeball seaso n is over ; it 's getting too cold for
pic ni cs ... thc children arc inside watching TV , usi ng th eir Pl11 yS tation ... doing other things. An empty park
is a wa ste of taxpayer's money . People ha ve dogs as co mpanions and pets . They need a place to be able to
exerci se them selves, as we ll as their dogs, and what is nice r than a loca l dog park . The off-leash groups
have shown that they arc responsible and willing to JTU\ke any compromise to have their off-leash park
back. and will do whate ver is necessary to make ii a safe place fo r children, adu lts , and dogs . J am aski ng
yo u tonight to help us ge t back on track . Let us have a Task Force th at can wo rk with Council and City
staff to provi de a worki ng sit uati on th at will be a win -win situat io n. Thank yo u. There was ap pl ause.
8. Communications, ProclamatJons and Appointments
There we re no co mmuni cations , proc lamati ons or appointments .
9. Public Hearing
(a) COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW MOVED , AND IT WAS SEC ONDED, TO
OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO GATHER INPUT ON COUNCIL BILL NO . 77 , REG ARDING
THE IN STALLATION OF AN ALL-WAY STOP AT WEST TUFTS A VENUE AND KNOX
COURT.
Ayes : Cou ncil Membe rs Barrentine , Moo re, Brad shaw, Wolosyn,
Yurchick , Toma sso, Garrett
Nays: None
Moti on carried and th e Pu blic Hearin g ope ned .
All wit nesses we re duly swo rn .
Directo r Ross sai d in September the Pub lic Work s Department received a survey that indi ca ted th at 33 out
of 59 house hold s in th e area encompass ing the 4500 and 4600 bl oc ks of South Jul ian Street, So uth King
St reet and South Knox Court , as we ll as the We st Tufts Ave nue resid ents between Lowel l and Ir vin g,
de sire an all -way stop to be placed at th e in1ersccti on of Knox Coun and Wes1 Tuft s Ave nu e. At the Ci ty
Co un cil Study Sessio n on Oc tober 2oui. Cit y Co uncil indi cn tcd that they wi shed to co nsi der th e request of
th ese re sidents , agai nst th e reco mmen da tio ns of the Ci ty sia lf and the Englewood Tran sportati on Adviso ry
Commiuee . The Muni ci pal Code all ows City ·o uncil 10 veto th e Ci ty Traffic Engineer, after holdin g a
publi c hea ring on th e muller and then receiv in g testimony abo ut the iss ue. Cit y Counci l passed an
ordin ance on fir st readin g to direct staff to in sta ll an all -way stop at the intersec ti on of West Tufts Ave nue
and Knox Co urt on Nove mber 3rd and also sci a publi c hearin g fo r November 17. 2003 in order to gather
publi c in put and to determine wheth er the Tuft s A\'enue/Kn ox Court int ersec ti on should be an all -way stop •
co ntro lled intersec tio n. In acco rd ance with the Cit y Council's desire. the notic e fo r th e Publi c Hearin g was
publi shed in 1hc Englewood Herald on Nove mber 7, 2003 and I will submit thi s as proo f to th e Ci ty Clerk .
Sta.ff ca nnot reco mmend appro va l of th is reque st. he sa id . due to th e fa ct th at the all -way stop is not
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wa rran1 cd. When we were sweari ng in the fo ur ne,, Co um:il peopl e, I wa:. kickin g myself that I didn't ge t
to Jud ge Atencio and ha ve him ask th e new Ci ty Co uncil to uphold th e manual on Uniform Traffi c Co nt ro l
Devi ces, I fi gure I co uld have go tten four vo tes. bw ... l mi ssed 1ha1 opportunity . The manual on Uniform
Traffi c Co ntro l Oc\·ic cs is incorpor ated by referen ce in th e Coch: of Federal Rc gulati ons as part of the
Hi ghway Safe ty Act of 1966 and is the nation al stand ard for traffi c co ntrol device s c1n all public roads . Th e
need for uniform standard s was recognized long ag o. The idea behind un iformity is simply th at the task of
the road user need s to be simpl ified 10 a1d them in recogni zin g and understandin g and th erefo re, reducing
the percept ion 1ime :md their reac1i on lime. And . it is to assist 1he fo lk s who have to enforce th e la ws,
nam ely the po lice and the co urts. givi ng eve ry one he same rul es and therefore. the same interpret ati on for
1hose ru les. Unifo rmit y also mean s. tre atin g si milar situ ati ons in a similar way . Th e general com pli ance of
states and citi es 10 this doc trine has created expectati ons by road use rs and as a re sult, some tim es. mi suse of
traffic co nt rol devi ces ca uses di sre spect. not onl y a1 the loc ati ons where 1hey are improper, but al so at the
location s whe re th e devices arc needed a nd appropriate . If th e posted speed limit is not appropriate fo r
co nditi ons , peopl e tend to di so bey them . Sim ilar ly thi s is the ca se for right -hand -turn-on-red prohibitions
and left tum prohibitions and unfortun ate ly. all -way stops. At the Tuf1s and Kn ox Court intersectio n, 1here
a.re 16 hou ses on the Knox Court cul -de -s ac. nort h and south of the inter sec ti on. These 16 houses generate,
on average, abo ut 80 trip s per day . That mean s, th at th e dri vers on Tufts will only stop fo r so meone on
Knoll Court ve ry infrequent ly. As thi s happen s over and ove r. driver s will be more casual about obeying
1hosc slop sig ns. There just aren't suffici e nt numbers on Kn ox Co urt , to comp~! compliance , and therefore
the dri ve rs on Tuf1:, Avenue will kn ow that 1he rea son the oil -wa y sto p is there, is not to help people
identify who has the right -o f-way, but the stop is int ended to inconvenience drhers. Now, warrants aside,
the other reasons behind staffs reco mmend ati on are , the one stop sign will n<'< change the driving panerns
of thi s neighborhood . Once a stop sign is inslallcd, ii will ne ve r be removed .!Ven though the intended
purpo se was not sati sfied. St op sign s in crease noise. po ll ution and fuel consumpti on. It is estim ated that it
requires an average ... to slow down from 30 mph , come to a comp lete stop and th en get back up to yo ur
traveling specd ... of about 1/IOth of a gallon of extra gas, than what yo u would have used in just
maintaining yo ur crui si ng speed . Thi s means th at 1hi s intersection, with 1he 808 ve hicle s that we have on
Tufts Avenue , an extra 80 gallons of fue l wi ll be used each day at that all -wa y slop. aft er it is installed. The
MUTCD has identified certai n stop sig n warrant s. Mos t of those deal with safely concerns. An accident
problem is indi cated by five or more repo rted acc id en ts. of th e type s susce p1iblc to correcti on by a multi-
way stop instal\a1ion. in a twe lve-month period, and then the y identify traffic vo lum es. What happc,1ed 1n
2002 was that there was a millennium editi on of th e MUTCD , which added so me additional opti onal
criteria , which allowed traffic engineers so me additional flc x1bili ly . Wh at they did was the y indi cated
so me of the se other criteria . One of those wil s the need to co ntrol left turn conflict s. thr nee d to cont ro l
pede strian and ve hicl e co nni cts near in1er sec1i ons where th ere is hi s h pede strian volumes . That is th e o ne
we used to in stall so me additi onal stop sign s aro und the sc hoo ls. if yo u remembe r. Loca ti ons where the
road user . after sloppin g, can not se c confli cting 1raffic and then at intersecti ons where yo u ha ve two
co ll ec tor through streets of similar de sign and ope rating cha ra cteri sti cs , where it wou ld impro ve the tr affic
operation charac teristic s. Thal was 1hc warrant s that I spoke of. The fin al re aso n tha t the staff cann ot
~up porl this is we feel that it is a bad preceden t. In 1978. up until abou t 1985. th ere wa s 1hi s show hosted
by Richard Da wso n called Family Feud where th e an swe rs were determined to be ri ght or wro ng base d
upo n survey res ults, and so Richard Daw so n wou ld alwa ys say ·sur vey says ' and th e survey was 1he
approp riate mea r.~ of det ermining the lose rs and winn ers of thi s ga me show. bu1 it is probably not a very
appropri:11e way to make traffic engineering decisio ns . No ne of the numbers on We st Tuf1 s Ave itue are
ve ry cc mpclling wi th re spect to pub lic safety con sid er.1 1i ons. at lea st in com pari so n to other 10<.·a l
re sidential streets in the C'it y. Th ere ha ve bee n no accide nt s .-cportcd 1hcre in th e last 1hrce y :ars. betwee n
Lowe ll and Irving on Tuft s. Co mpari ng th e traffic num bers on sim il ar type ~ of res idential lol·a l s1 The
808 vclud cs per day on Tuft s rank s about the 44 ih highes t on the li st The City wi de av erage is ab .!00
ve hicle s per day on a loca l res idenlial stre et. Co mp ari ng !he ave rage speed s on Tuft s. Tuft s rank s about
48ui on thal li st The aver age speed on Tuft s 1s 29 mph . The Cit y wide average is appro ximately 28 mph .
Co mparing the perc~ntage of vehicles that exceed 35 mph on Tuft s. rank s 3t111 and 361h highe sl for we st
bound and cas t bound res pective ly. Tufl s, ea s! bo und, is 6.98 per ce nl and we ~! bo und Tufl s is 5.67 pe r
ce nt and the City-wi de average is 6.41 per cc nl. Th en co mparin g th e 851h pcrccn ulcs. whi ch mean s that 85
per t.·cnt of 1he car s arc traveling less than th e 85 th pe rrc mile speed. Tuft s ra nk s as numbl·r 33 west hmmd
and number 30 c:1st bo und . The 851h pc rccnul e speed is 33 .1 wc:s l bo und and :n ..i ca~, bo und :ind !he: C11 y
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wi de avc1age is 30.6. We curren 1l y have 32 :lll -wa y slop in 1crscc1ions in 1hc City and 18 ur those are
aro und schoo ls. The concern . quilc fr ankly is. 1f we arc goin g 10 pl ace an :ill -way !ttop at thi s loc :ui on.
based on th ese num be r~. then what possibl e gro unds do we have fo r saying no to th e 30 or 40 other stree ts
in th e Ci ty th at have equa l or hig her volum es or high er num be rs. Tha nk yo u. :\1 thi s tim e. I would lik e to
turn it ove r 10 Doroth y Martinez who has worked many hours toward trying to get th is stop sign install ed.
Co uncil Membe r Yurc hick sa id I wo uld like 10 as k a qu estion. Your fir st rea so n. whi ch I ass ume is yo ur
main rea so n ... is it th e fo ur-wa y stop you oppose or is th en: a rnmpro mi sc where we could put th e stop on
Tu ft s, but not ma ke it a fou r-way slop'! As I loo k ut the mup on Knox , I sec how short Knox Court is. Mr .
Ross sa id ofa:n, when we are fa ced with th at kind of sit uatio n. one or the thin gs that we do look at is
swit ching th e stop sign s. And un fo nun alely when you have 700 ve hicle s on one street and 80 vehicl es on
the oth er stree t. it is so di sproponi onatc, we don't foc i co mfo rtabl e doing that at thi s loca ti on. Mr .
Yurchi ck said then yo u are opposed either wa y'! Mr . Ross replied . yes.
Mayor Garrett said th ere are no stop signs on th e street. ls 1h111 ri ght ? Mr. Ross said yes th ere are . Mayor
Garrett said I didn 'I see an y StJ p signs at all. Are th \!re stop signs up on those two ? Mr . Ross said yes, on
stoppin g and co ntrolling Knox. Coun . Mr. Garre tt said there are no stop signs an ywhere up there that I
remember . Mr . Ross said oh, is that right ? That is inte res ting . Mr. Garrett said we might be in fa vo r of
1wo. Mr . Ross said yes, we could do 1hat.
Co un cil Membe r Yurchi ck said how can that be. that th ere ure no smp signs? Mayor Ga rrell said th ere are
no stop signs. I went by the intersec ti on. Mr. Ross said I didn 't notice th at.
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Do ro th y Manine z. 3430 West Tu fts A ve nue , said I wo uld lik e 10 th ank th e Englewood Cit y Council for
givin g me th is op ponunit y to speak toni ght regardin g th e in slallati on of a four -w ay stop at 1he intersecti on
of Wesl Tufts Ave nue and South Kn ox Co urt . To keep thi s short and brief, 1 would like to act as the •
spokes perso n fo r lhi s iss ue . Th ere are num ero us pe opl e prese nt to ni ght who came to thi s meetin g to show
th eir sup po n fo r thi s iss ue . There arc al so ind ivi dual s here who wi sh to speak inde pe ndently , after I have
gi\•en my prese ntati on. Ir Co uncil des ires, all indi vi duals prese nt in fa vo r of thi s iss ue can stand , be sworn
in , and give th eir names and addre sses. To start . I would like to re view th e ste ps I have 1ake n wi th th e Cit y
regarding thi s matter. (1.) On Sep tember 8th • I met wi1 !, La dd Vostr y. Traffi c Engin ee r fo r the Cit y, to
di sc uss th is iss ue. (2.) On Octobe r 9th !he En glewood Transport alion Adviso ry Co mm itt ee met to disc uss
thi s issue and dec id ed 10 for wa rd ii to Cit y Council. (3 .) On October 20th Ci ty Council moved to make thi s
iss ue a re so luti on and 10 put it on the Nove mbe r 3111 Cit y Co uncil Meetin g Age nda . (4 .) On Nov em ber 3rd
th e Publ ic Works De partment reco mm end ed thi s iss ue be dec ided at a Pu bli c Hearin g to be held on
November 17th. (5 .) On Nove mber 12'h two signs 1ega rdin g th e Publ ic Hearin g we re posted by the City at
th e inierscc ti on of We st Tuf1 s Avenue an d South Knox Court. (6.) Today be in g November 17th I am in
all endance al th is Pu blic Hea ring befo re Ci ty Co un ci l to prere n1 my case. I have cont ac ted and bee n
wo rkin g with th o~e resident s who live on the 33 00 th ro ugh 3500 blocks of West Tuft s Ave nue, the 4500
th ro ugh 4600 bl ocks of Sout h Juli an Strcer, 1he 4500 th ro ug h 4600 bloc ks of South Knox Coun , and rh e
-l 500 th ro ugh 4600 bloc ks of So uth King Strce l. Fur simplifi cati on, I will refer to th is area as "lhe
neig hborhood." 1 canvassed 1hc nei ghbor hood 1wicc 10 ob tain reside nt 's in put on thi s iss ue. I did an
informa l survey in Se pt ember and obtain ed signa tures on a fo rm lcll er in No vember. I sum m:i ri zed th e
in for mati on I coll ec ted fr om th e survey , and lell ers, into a report. I made opie s or 1he re port fo r each of
the Co uncil members, if yo u would plea se di stribute th em . Ea ch Co unci l me mber receive d the re pon .
Al so. she said . there arc copie s of 1h e or igin al leners. if yo u care to look :tt th ose . Th e repo rt co nt ain s th e
stati stic al in for mati on I will be pre sentin g tonig ht . On Se pt embe r 9th , 11 th , I 2'h and 13th , I surveyed a tot al
or 53 resi dent s rep re se nt ing 36 hou seholds. Th ere arc a total o f 59 houses in 1hc ncig hburh ood and 36
household s represe nt 6 1 % of th e ne ighbo rhood . Of those re sident s co nt ac ted . 50 are in fa vo r of installin g a
f1,u:-way stop and 3 re side nt s are opposed . The pcrce n1agc result s of th e sur vey alone arc : 9~% of the
r,sidcnts are in fa vor an d 6'li-arc opposed. On Novem ber 8th • 9th , and 15th • I distribut ed fl ye rs regardin g the
u~co ming Pub lic Heari ng and asked residen ts to sign a fo rm lener slating th eir des ire 10 have a fo ur-wa y •
s1op instalk d. I wa s able 10 obtai n signa1ures on 57 letters repre senti ng 38 hou!t eholds. Aga in. the re arc a
101:1 1 of 59 houses in th e neig hbor hood and 38 hn u~c holds re prese ntin g 6-l % of the ncighburhoocl . I
pcr!t<ma ll y deli vered 1he 57 lett ers lo th e Englewood Ci ty Cle rk ll us morni ng. Fnr the record. I would like
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10 read aloud the body of the letter signed by 1he rcsidcm s of th e neighborh ood. The lcncr read s as foll ows:
"Nm·ember 17, 2003 ... Dear Engle~ood Ci ty Coum:il Mcmbcrs, .. .I cu rren tly liv e :11 ______ (t hi s
was lcfl blank and th ey were to fill m th eir addre ss) in the Ci1 y of Eng lc woC>d. 1 have lived at thi s address
fo r _ (thi s was left blank and they were 10 fill in the num ber of year s) years. I am eighteen yea rs of age
or older . I am ab so lutel y in favor of the in slallation of n fo ur-w:1y sto p sig n at the intersec ti on of West
Tufts Ave nu e :rnJ Sou th Knox Court . The installati on of a fouMva y siop is warran ted fo r the fo ll ow in g
rea sons: West Tufts Av en ue is one of two th ro ugh streets be 1wee n So uth Lowell Boul evard and South
Federa l Boulevard . The ol hcr th roug h street is So uth Belleview Avenue . West Tuft s Ave nu e is the o nl y
through street loca1ed in the Ci ty of Eng lewood . The streei direc1ly south of Tufts Avenue , which is We st
Pim li co Avenue , is loc ated in the City and Co unt y of Denver . Within the las t year, the Cit y of Sheridan
installed mid -b loc k sto p signs on th e two stree ts direc tl y north of We st Tufts Avenue. Those streets would
be West Dill Road and West Mountain Road. This has di sco uraged motorists from usi ng West Dill Roa d
and West Mou nLain Road and has encouraged them to use West Tufts Avenue. Within the las t year,
Denver has installed a thrce•way sto p sign at the inter sec tion of th e 3600 bl oc k of Wes t Radcliff Avenue
and Sou1h Lowe ll Boul evard. The installation of a fou r-way slop would improve the neighborhood and
make it safe r. A four •way stop sign is the most economic so luti on from both a fin ancia l sta ndpoint and in
consideratio n of City staff time . The speed limit on Lowe ll Boulevard is 25 miles per hour a nd the speed
limit on We st Tuft s Avenue is 30 mil es per hour , making it more desirable for motorists to use Wc-s1 Tufts
Avenue nr.d avoid using Lowell Boulevard . Thank yo u fo r your time and co nsiderati on in thi s matter.
Sincerely ._." Ms. Martinez sa id I had them sign it and print th eir name. Taking in1 0 consi derati on
duplicate names and addresses on the survey and letters, I was able to contact a total of 80 res id ent s
represe nting 48 house hold s. Since there arc 59 households in the neighborh ood , be tween 1he survey and
letters, I was able to contact 81 % of the neighborh ood . The re sult :; of my sur vey and leners show 77
residents arc in favor of the in stallati on of a four -way stop and 3 res iden ts are opposed. The percentage
results of the survey and letters combi ned shows that 96'¼ are in favor and 4% are opposed. t hav e been an
Engle.wood re side nt for 35 years and ha ve lived :11 343 0 We st Tufts Ave nu e for 13 years. Of those
res idents who signed the letter. 35 resid en ts or 61 % have lived in the neighborhood for 10 or more years .
Again, the reasons why a stop sign is need ed are : West Tufts Avenue is one of two th rough streets between
So ulh Lowe ll Bou le vard and South Fede ral Boulevard . The other street is We!l t Bell eview . Tufts is the
onl y th ro ugh stree t in the Ci ty of Englewood. The strcl!t dire ctl y so uth , Wt st Pi mli co Aven ue. is loc ated in
th e Cit y of Denver. Within th e last year , Sherid an has in sta ll ed mid •b lod slop sig ns and speed bomp s on
the two streets directly no11h of us and th at has discouraged motorists fr oM using those streets a nd
encoura ged th em to use We st Tuft s Ave nue . With in the las t year, Denver has installed a three-way stop
sign at the intersec1ion of the 3600 bl oc k of We st Radcliff. Thi s ha s di sco ura ged motorist s from usi ng
Sou1h Lowe ll and enco ur aged 1hem 10 use West Tuft s Avenue . The sur vey of the neigh bor hood and signe d
lett ers indicate a s1rongly pe rceived problem with traffic al ong Wes! Tufts Avenu e. The neighborhood
fee ls a fo ur•way stop wo uld improve th e neighbor hood and make it safe r. Seve ral of the residents who li ve
di rec tl y along West l uft s Avenue have children and are concerned wnh th eir safety. A fou r-way stop
seems lik e the mos t economic so luti on. It will not cost th e City a 101 of money to in stall the fou r-way stop
sign. nur wi ll it requ ire a great deal of Ci1 y staff time 10 implement it. Th e speed limit on Lo we ll
Boul evard is 25 mile s per hour and 1he speed lim il on Wc:s t Tuft s Avenue is 30 mile s per hour, making ii
more desirab le for motori sts 10 use We st Tufts A venu e a11d av oid Lowe ll . Du rin g my Septe mber 8th
,ncctin g wi th Ladd . wt: di sc ussed se vera l poss ibl e so lu1i on., otli cr than a four -way slop. Specifi call y. we
di sc ussed speed bumpL traffi c circle s. and au toma1 ed speed limit sig ns. I am in fu ll agreemen t wit h the
City 's sland on speed bumps and would oppose their in sta ll ati on. I am also opposed 10 th e installati on of
traffic circle s. In talking wi th my ne ighbors. sev eral have ,rail ers that requi re a 5th whee l to tow th em. The
im,1all a1ion of a traffi c ci rcle would narrow th e int ersec ti on and make 1he pas~age of a 5'h wheel !railer very
d1ffu.:ult or downright imposs ibl e. The id ea wa s to co me up wi th a so lut ion lo all evia te trnffi c problem s and
at th e sa me time minimi ze inconvenien ce to th e neighborh ood. I do noi want to punish my neighbors by
reMricting or bl oc king inl erscc ti ons. It is clear the neighbo rhood pcrcei,·es a pro blem wi1h traffic along
WcM Tuf1 s Av enue and a soluti on is needed . A fo ur-way stop may not IJc the mos t perfect so luti on to thi s
prob lem, bu1 i i seem s lik e 1hc most effi cient and exped it ious so lu1 io n poss ible . I have informed th e
rc~1dcnts wh o live at lhe four corner s of th e intersec ti on of West Tuft s .A.venu e and So uth Knox Court,
:ihou t lhc in crease in traffi c noise and emiss ions at thi s inlc rscc l1 t•n. Th ey arc aware of the downside of th e
m,1all a1ion of a four -w ay stop and arc will ing to pul up with th ese im.:n nvcn it!nres . Al so . my neighbor ,
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Ke it h Gilm an, ha s lakcn pic 1ures of ea s1 bo und Tu f1s Av en ue and wc s1 bo und Tuf1 s Aven ue. She pass ed
1hc pic tur es ov er 10 Counci l. Ms. Maruncz sai d, as you ca n sec when you look at that. th ere is a stop si gn a l
Lowe ll il nd Tu fts and there :s a stop sig n a1 Ir vin g and Tuft s, bu1 all you see in those pi ctur es is one long
strai ght shot. No one park s 1heir ca r on We,;;1 Tufts. T wo of my neighbor 's ca rs have bee n hit by onco ming
traffi c on Tu fts Aven ue. So, no one par ks their ca rs on Tuft s anymore . You can see in those pic 1urcs. that
it's a ver y wid e street and ii e ncourage s peo pl e 10 dri ve fas 1er and increases traffi c prob lems. Th is
co nclude :; my prese nta ti on fo r thi s e ven ing. I would like to th ank th e Co uncil members for ta ki ng thi s
mail er into co nsiderati on an1 I am asking yo u 10 please apprrwe th e in s1allati on or a fo ur•way slop at lh e
intersectio n of We st Tufl s Avenue and So uth Knox Co urt .
Kei1h Gilman sa id I live wi 1h my preny bride Theresa Ma yeda at 4620 South Knox Court in Englewood .
have been here fo r 17 yt ars and we came out when they crea ted U.S . West. You kn ow, I love the word
opportun i1y . We tha n'.c yo u fo r granting us the opponunily to ad voc ale fo r ow ki ds and our pets this
evening . We thank yo ;i fa .-taking 1hi s opportun ity to help a unique pan or the paradi se that we all ca ll
Engle woo I. An inform.ti census of kids in our area result s in kind of a 20 to 25 ... which does n"t includ e
my new grand so n. That increase s on weekend s wh en their friend s co me to play and to visit We are
ac tuall y ac utel y aware or th e fa ct th at there is a publi c elem entary sc hoo l four bl oc ks, as th e crow flie s.
north of this int ersecti on. The world has beco me a more dange rous pla ce for its children . Herc is an
opportunit y fo r us !o make a small pan of that world .just a little bit safer. Ma yor Garrett , Ma yor Pro Tern
Wolosy n and lem bt:rs of the Counci l, I am pro ;oundl y grateful that yo u have fo und what we ha ve had 10
say 10 be worth}• of yo ur time and kind an ent io n th is evenin g and I thank yo u.
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John Funk , 3430 West Tufts Ave nue. said I have li ved in En glewood nearl y my enti re life . I actually grew
up on Huron and Chenango o ver by Belleview Park and as yo u may, or may not kno w, Huron Street in th ut
11.rea is ac tuall y quite bu sy . Alth ough . in the 13 ye ars since 1 ha ve li ved ove r on Tufts Avc:nu c. l found it to
be much more probl ematic than Huron ever was. Huron see med to hav e more of a consistent traffic fl ow •
than Tufts has. Tu fts see ms to have more of a spik e in traffi c and thin gs of th at so rt . Th e traffic engineer
had men ti oned a li n le bit abo ut ave rage speeds and lh ings of that sort . 1 happen 10 be a student of ad va nced
stati sti cs and I happen to know th at in thi s parti cular case, 1 don't th in k th e ave rage is very renecti ve of 11:e
ac tua l di stribut io n in thi s area . Wh at I sec on a regul ar basis is peo pl e co ming dow n the str eet ver y qui ckly .
So. wh at I would enco ura ge yo u to do is to help us solve our 1rnffic prob lem an d improve our neighborhood
a littl e bit. On e of the ways yo u can do th at is by tak ing us up on our pro posed so lu tion fo r the tra ffic
co ntrol and not make us pla y 20 ques 1i ons with 1hc traffi c enginee r ove r what device is appro pri ate . Th ank
yo u.
Murk Ga ll eJIOS, 46 30 So uth Knox Court , said I have be en a res ident a1 th at address fo r almos t 12 years
now . Tonig ht I came without a coll .ucd shirt, wi thou t a ~·oat and li e. I just ca me as a normal. comfort able
American . Wh at 1 wa nt 10 say, bri c'ly. is 1hat I have no statis 1ic s like tt.c traffic enginee r had, but I li ve two
doo rs away fr om 1h is inte rsecti on. I have an eleven yea r old and an eight yea r old , with man y cousins,
many fr iend s and they come o v.:i '!Ui te oft en lo play . because we have a grc:u c ul .de.sac. It is a nice liuh.:
neig hborhood th at we have . Mo:,t of tnc ~ids in the neig hbor hood come 10 my house. =,o we ha ve a fun
house. Wh at I want to jus1 stn.::,:, 10 you guys i<: ~t,.i l we are looki ng fo r safe ty fo r 1he ki ds. A co uple of us
have purch ase d ora nge cones and \\hen the kid s :ire out playing. we wi ll pu t them on Knox Court, on our
cul .de-s ac that goes to the so uth of Tuft s. Peo pl e urc re~pcc tful when th ey come on Kn ox Co urt . 1
defi nitely agree wuh my neighbor John , about th e spikes in 1ra ffi c. The traffi c on Tur1s is ve ry irreg ul ar.
espec iall y around ru sh ho ur time s, in th e monii ngs an::! in the C\'e nings . There is a \ut or tra ffi c then, nm so
mu ch in th e mid dle of th e day. People do dri ve very fo st on it . es pe1.:iall y th e las! few yea rs. since the y pu1
the speed bump s on th e stree ts to the north of us anJ 1he stop signs on the stree ts to th e so uth of us. One
thin g that I also wa nt 10 menti on, I have an exce ll ent dri ving record . but l alm os t had a fato l acci dent at th e
int e1scc tion about fo ur ye ars ago . When you dri .,e north on Tu fts. i i 1~ a slight incline to th e wes t and in the
eve ning hour s, whe n the sun is just co min g over 1he hill. 11 is prett y diffi cult 10 see . Well , it ac tuall y
happened to me several 1ime s, bu t one day it was ki nd of a cl ose r all :·m dri ving nonh. I'm ge ttin g ready •
10 turn left 1owa rds my house on Knox Co urt and th ere was n lot u' glare on my wi ndshiel d. Th ere we re
twu, probab ly aro und 7U1 gr:1de chil dren , gemng rc:td )' tu cross th e s1reel , I :,ta rtt:d ,,,y turn. as 1 didn't see
1hem . and all of ~ sud J en it dawnt"d on me there was so meon e there and I slamm ed on my bra kes. I w:1s
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probably 12 feet away fr om th em. That was ju st a litt le close for me . ~: reall y gave me a wakeup call. We
ca n't sec thin gs like that in statistic s, as for as how much traffi c is th ere and is th e stop sign reall y
warrcnted . 1 think that ifa stop sig n was th ere, it wo uld help cverybody ... it wo uld hel p th e drive rs to just
have a moment to mr.lcc sure cvcrythinr is safe before they proceed throu gh the int ersec tion . So. I hope
that yo u will rul e in ou; fa vor. Thank s ior yo ur time .
Ma)O r Ga rrt>tt asked if there wa s anyo ne el'ie who wou ld ca re tc, speak . There was no one .
.:OUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED , TO CLOSE THE
PUBLIC HEARING TO GATHER INPUT ON COUNCIL BILL NO . 77 , REGARDING THE
INSTALLATION OF AN ALL-WAY STOP AT WEST TUFTS AVENUE AND KNOX COURT.
/-.)CS: Council Members Barrentine, Moore , Brad shaw, Wolosyn,
Yurchick , Tr,masso . Garrett
Nays: None
Motion carried and the Public Hearing closed .
Mayor Olln'ctt said I believe thi s will be sched uled for December 1, is that correc t? City Attorney
Brotzman said that is correct, for second reading .
10. Consent Agenda
(a) Approval of Ordinances on First Reading
\ I t]JNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO APPROVE
UY,SENT AGENDA ITEMS 10 (a) ii), (II), (UI), (Iv) and (v) AND 10 (b) (I),
(i) COUNCIL fll!.L NO . 64 . INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER
BRADSHAW
A BILL FOR '\N ORDINAN CE AUTHORIZING AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT
ENTITLED "D EPARTMENT OF THE ARMY RIGHT OF ENTRY FOR ENVIRONMENT AL
ASSESSMcNT AND RESPONSE" BETWEEN THE U.S. ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND THE
CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PERTAINING TO THE PLACE MENT OF HIGH-VOLUME AIR
MONITORING UNIT AT THE ENG LEWOOD GOLF COURSE .
(ii) COUNC IL BILL NO. ~9. INTRODUCED BY COU NCIL MEMBER
BRADSHAW
A BILL FOR AN ORDINAN CE AP PROVING A LI CENSE AGREE ME NT BETWEEN THE CIT Y OF
:NGLEWOOD, COLORADO . AND PATRICK AND CO LLE NE BURKE , TO MAINTAIN A PORTION
OF THE CITY DITCH ADJACE NT TO 3594 S. BANNOCK STREET .
(iii ) COU NC IL BILL NO . 80. INT RODU CE D BY COUNC IL MEMBER
BRADSHAW
A BILL FOR AN ORDINAN CE APPRO VING A LI CENSE AG REEMENT AND GRA NTIN G A
TEMPORARY CO NSTR UCT ION EA SEM ENT FOR 2890 S. CLAR KSON S'!"'lEET IN ENGL!: .VOOD ,
COLORADO .
(iv) COUNC IL BILL NO . 8 1. INTR ODUCED BY COUNC IL MEMBER
BRADSHAW
A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE APPROV ING TH E INT ERGOVE RNMENTAL AGREEMENT BY
AND BETW EE N UR BAN DRAINAGE AND FLOOD CO NTROL DISTRI CT, THE CITY OF
ENGLE WOOD, COLORADO, AND CENTE NNIA L WATER AND SAN IT ATION DISTRICT FOk
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DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT IO N OF DRAINAGE AND FLOOD CONTROL IMPROVEMENTS FOR
MARCY GULCI-I AT ENGLEWOOD'S CITY DITCH .
(v) COUNC IL BILL NO . 82. INTR ODUCED BY COU NCIL MEMBER
BRADSHAW
A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE CONNECTO R'S AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE
CITY OF ENGLEWOOD . COLORA DO , AND SOUTH ENGLEWOOD SAN IT AT ION DISTRICT NO .
I.
(b) Approval of Ordinances on Second Reading
(i) ORDINANCE NO . 78 , SERIES OF 2003 (COUNCIL BILL NO. 76 ,
INTRODUCED BY COUNC IL MEMBER GARRETT)
AN ORDINANCE CLEANING UP CERTAIN ERRORS AND OM ISS IONS IN CLARIFY ING IN THE
ENGLEWOOD MUNICIPAL CODE 2000 BY AMENDING TITLE 4, TITLE 7, TITLE 8, TITLE 11 ,
TITLE 12, TITLE 15 AND TITLE 16.
Vote results:
Ayes : Council Members Barrentine , Moore . Bradshaw, Wolosyn.
Yurchick, Tomasso, Garrett
Nays: None
Motion carried .
(c) Resoluti o ns and Mot ions
There were no additional resolu1 io ns or motions su~ mined for a pproval. (Sec Agenda It e m 11 -Regular
Agenda.)
11. Regular Agenda
(a) Approval of Ordina nces on First Reading
(i) Director Fonda presented a recomme nd ati on from the Water and Sewer Board to
adopt a bill fer :m ordinance approving the 2003 City Ditch/High Linc Cana l Agreement for deli very of raw
water. He sai d thts is for approval of a modific3l ion to the City Ditch/High Line agreement that we entered
int o with the Denver Water Board in 1995. This is a res ult of the foci that Denver is not diverting water to
Harvard Gulch for use north of Harvard Gulch . This agreement requires Denver to pay $257,000.00 for a
re-circulatio n system 1ha1 will keep the wa1er. in !he area of B:ttes Logan Park, re-c irc ulating. Even though
we ca n ge l low n o ws 1hro ugh it now, this would allow for rc -circul:1tion and it will be installed by o ur City
crews. The recommendatio n to City Cou nci l is to approve the agree ment with Den ver. Denver, after it
passed our Wa1er and Sewer Board, has a lre ady approved it.
Mayor Garrett asked if1here were any questio ns for Director Fonda.
Council Member Yurc hi ck said what is the ralio o f the $257,000.007 It say:, ba sed o n a ra ti o. What is the
estimate of what is it is going to cost Englewood'! Director Fonda said whii.:h paragraph are yo u looking
at? Mr. Yurchick said rm looking at the Financial Im pacts . Where it says Englewood's share of these
costs were based o n ,~e rati o of the vo lume of wa1cr di ve rted for Englewood at th e High Line diversion
dam.
Director Fo nd a said thal is separate from the ditch . Denve r. if ii diverts some of the water that used lJ go •
north of Harvard Gulch, they may want to deli ver ii 1010 Littleto n. so they would pay on a prorata ba sis,
their costs of sharing the Ci 1y Ditch if they di ve rted that water. Similarly. Denver allows us 10 use th e High
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!.inc Canal under fairl y fa vo rable co nditi o1.v :a delive r wale r from Watcn on :myo n 10 Mclellan Re servoi r
and that 's by gra vity and it's a good deal. but we pay !iimil :u ly . :i proponionale share ba sed on the length of
the ca nal we u~c and the vo lum e of waler diverted compared to the tota l 1ha1 Denver divens down the Hi gh
Line Ca nal.
Council Membe r Yurch1 ck said what ki nd of numher '! What kind of number are we vo1ing on fo r the cost
lo Englewood? Mr . Fonda sai d It varies every year depending on how much wa ter we diven. In other
wo rds. some ye ars we don't divert any and so me years when the Hi gh Line Canal is not prior~!y, we may
di vert quite a bi1. Counci l Member Yurchick said okay, give me a range ... from zero to what? Mr . Fonda
sa id it co uld be $20,000.00 10 S50.000 .00. but we pay more 1han that pumping 11 out of 1he McLtJ lan Pump
Sta ti on. So High Line Canal is our fir st choice and 1hen beyond that, we would have to pump i1. .. the water
that we run down Ci ty Ditch . And then , this is usually water that we are leasing IO Highlands R:inch. This
is a fairl y sma ll fraction of the revenues that we derive from that.
Co uncil Member Wolosyn said do I understand correctly from previous discussion, that the $257,000.00
shou ld co,·cr our costs 10 install the re -circ ul ation sys tem. Mr . Fonda said yes it wi ll and we will be usi ng
our crew and eq uipm en t to install it, but we have incl uded our costs. as if we were a conaactor and Denver
has accepted that. So. we will only be out of pocket for the cost of the materials.
Council Member Wol osy n sa id I think you guys did a great job. I just realized lhis. I think it was two
years. because Mayor Bums was on the Water Board \<\'hen this di sc uss ion str.rtcd. Mr . Fonda said yes, it
has take n a lot of negotiations .
Director i=ond a sai d Council Member Yurchick. did that answer all yo ur que sti ons?
Co uncil Member Yuhhick said in a way. but in a way not. Now yo u t-ave raised another questi on. You
tell me this doesn't have anything 10 do with the City Ditch runnin g through Englewood . Mr. Fonda sa id
yes, it docs. Mr . Yurchick sai d, so, in the long run it could cnst us $5 0,000.00 a year to pump waier
through th e Ci ty Di h::h . Mr . Fonda said we can run water fr om Watcnon Canyon dow n High Linc Ca nal
and put it into Mclellan Rese rvoir to store it. It is a ve ry favorable price. because we would pay more if
we 100k the wa ter out of the Sou1h Platte River. ran it down City Ditch and pumped it up to Mclellan
Re se rvo ir. Th e confusing pan of this is th at thi s agreement covers both our use of 1hc High Lin c Canal and
Den ver 's use of 1he Ci 1y Di1ch. And , Denver's use of th e Ci 1y Ditch used 10 be. that they would run water
all the way through the City Ditch and use it for Washington Park and the Denver Country Club. but they
stopped . When T-Rcx ca me throu gh, 1hey took 1hc pipe out und er the highway . So now they don't usc any
of the water nonh of Harva rd Gulch. They want 10 take that water oul and conve n ii to muni cipal use, but
they wanted to ret ain th e abil ity 10 still use some of th at water to maybe se rve the LiHl cton cemete ry or
so me of their customers that would be sout h of Harvard Gulch. So, wc charge th em based on the cost 1hat
we incur. For City Ditch. the y would share th e cos 1 based on the volume of water they divert. co mp ared to
the to1al water diverted, if ii is in City Ditch . In 1he High Line Cana l. we do a similar prorata sharing of
costs. where they lake th eir 101al High Line Ca nal cos1s and we pay. based on the len gth of the ditch we
use, co mp ared to 1hc 101al. So. tf we use a fourth of the lcngl h. in getti ng 10 Mclellan Re se rvo ir , we wou ld
pay a fourt h, and if we use. ma ybe a hundredth of the wa1er thai is diverted, we wo uld 1hen pa y :1 four th nf
a hundredth of thei r total cost. So. we do ii similarly in both cases .
Co uncil Member Yurchi ck said. so. is it goi ng to cost Eng le wood 10 run wa1c r fro m 350 Eas t Cornell to
2750 Sou1h Clarkso n? Mr . Fonda sa id it will co st Engll"!wood to run the re-circul:1tio n system . Is that wha t
yo u mean'? Mr . Yun.·hick said well. I don't kn ow . You :ire talking aboul prorated costs in he re, we are
talking about running the City Ditch fr om Curne ll 10 Cla rkso n. and I just want to know what it is go ing to
cost Engl ewood to keep that water running throu gh thal ditch for ae !i lhetic reasons . Mr . Fo nd a sa id it will
cos t us nothin g to insta ll it , beca use Denver is paying fo r the eniirc in stallati on. Mr . Yurchick sa id ri gh t,
but after 1hat it is goi ng 10 cos t us so mething to keep the water going. is n't ii ? Mr . Fonda sai d yes. it will .
ll wi ll be the power costs and m:iintenan ce on the pump station. Mr . Yun:hid: sa id okay. 1ha1 was my
que sti on . Mr . Fonda sai d that is a fairly minor amo unt . but I don't know. ma ybe $5.000.00 a yea r ... I'm
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ju st guessi ng. 11 is a ve ry low hea d app lica 1ion, because yo u arc no! liftin g 1hc wa ter, yo u arc just re•
ci rculating it.
Co unci l Member Moore said just 10 clarify so mething regarding th e di vers ion iss ucs ... to get the water to
lhis area . Direc tor Fo nd a said that is se parat e fr om the re -ci rcul ati on iss ue. They arc both covered in one
doc ument. But, Mr . Moo re said, I wa s following Mike's iss ue and it is a good one. Other than just runnin g
th e pump, we arc 001 incurring additional annu al costs, just to keep the aestheti c va lue of the dit ch goi ng'!
Mr . Fonda sai d we arc maintuining the Di tch, but it 1,1,ould be very expensive to aband on it. And al so, the
Ditch se rve s as a storm water conveyance, which we ca nnot really get rid of, without great expen se.
COUNCIL MEMBER WOLOSYN MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED TO APPROVE AGENDA
ITEM 11 (a) (I)-COUNCIL BILL NO. 78.
COUNCil. BILL NO . 78 . INTRODU CE-BY COUNCIL MEMBER WOLOSYN
A Bll.L FOR AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE 2003 CITY DITCH/HIGH LINE CANAL
AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN THE CITY AND COUNTY OF DENVER . ACTING BY AND
THROUGH ITS BOARD OF WATER COMMJSSIONERS , (DENVER) AND THE CITY OF
ENGLEWOOD, (ENGLE WOOD) FOR THE DELIVERY OF RAW WATER .
Mayor Gmctt asked if there was any di sc ussion . There was none .
Vote results :
Ayes:
Nays:
Motion carried .
Council Members Barrentine, Moo re , Brad sho.w , Wol osy n.
Yurchiclc, Tomasso, Garrett
None
(b) Approvo.l of Ordinance s on Seco nd Reading
There were no additional item s submitt ed fe r approval on second reading. (Sec Agenda Item 10 -Conse nt
Agenda.)
(c ) Re so lut ions and Motions
(i) Director Long prese nted a re co mmendat io n from the Library to ad opt a
reso luti on auth ori zing the 2003 Winter Food for Fine s progra m fr om Monda y, December I thro ugh
Su nda y, Dece mber 14. 2003. He said in 1990 the Library began a new program , which we ca ll Food fo r
Fines. The rati onale be hind the program is reall y twofold . One was to encourage people to get their books
back on tim e and, fo r peop le who had ovc rdues, we also wa nt ed to have a way. particularly with kid s who
couldn't afford a lot of money , th at the y co uld ge t the boo ks back with out a charge, but in doing so th ey
wo uld provid e a se rvice to the communi ty. How we se t th e program up was, an yo ne with an ov erdue cou ld
brin g in one non-peris habl e food it em and swap th at overdue fin e ... havc it ca nc elled in effect. Th en the
non-peri shable Food i1ems were 1hcn donaled 10 ln1erFai1h Task Force Food bank . In !he 13 years thi s
program has bee n in existence , we have raised an estimated $16,900.00 in non-perishab le food items for th e
ln le rFaith food bank . This ha s been a very po pular program . Earli er thi s year whe n we rai sed our fine
structure for ove rdue materials . it was the wi shes of the Library Board , sub sequentl y supported by Ci ty
Council , that not only would we hnve one Food fo r Fines program, but we would hn ve it tw ice a yea r, two
weeks each. So this year, we had our fir st summe r Food for Fines and now it is time fo r the wint er Food
for Fine s program . As 1 sa id , this has hecn a very positi ve program on behalf of our patrons . It ce rtainly
ha s been app reciated by Interfaith Task Force and we think it is worthy of contin uin g and we ask your
sup pon to approve our request for reso luti on. Mr . Lo ng asked if there were any qu es ti ons. Th ere were
no ne.
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COUNCIL MEMBER WOLOSYN MOVED, AND IT \VA S SECON DED TO APPROV E AGENDA
ITEM 11 I l (I) -RESOL UT IO N NO . 84.
RESOLUTION NO . 84, SERIES OF 2003
A RESOLUTION AUTHOR IZING THE ENGLEWOOD PUBLI C LIBRARY TO IMPLEMENT THE
ANNUA L "FOOD FOR FINES" PROGRAM FROM MOND AY . DECEMBER I, 2003, THR OUG H
SUNDAY. DECEMBER 14 . 2003.
Vote r esul ts:
Ayes : Co uncil Members Barrentin e, Moo re, Brad shaw , Wolosy n.
Yurchi ck, Tomasso. Ganett
Na ys: None
Moti on carried .
Di rec tor Lo ng said thank you very mu ch.
(ii) Director Fond a prescn1ed a reco mm end ,. Water and Sewer Board to
approve, by mo1io n, th e purchase of pumping units. va lve vau lts ;u nncctio ns to the 1wo wc11 s
that we rece ntl y drilled . One was drilled at Mclellan Re se rvo ir ano ell was drilled at the Go lf
Course. These arc deep wells that provi de a very sUl.b lc so urce of wate1 .Js were received fo r the
units and we arc reco mmending the low bid in the amount of S l 30, 177 .00 lv . uTl West, Inc . I wo uld point
out that th ese we lls make our water a lot firmer and we are th ere fore able to lease a mu ch higher priced
water during moderate years, to Highlands Ranch , because durin g dry years we are able to use we lls to
provide that wa ter, so in conjunction wi th so me of our surfa ce rights. th at are a littl e bit junior, we are ab le
to make th em senior and ge nera te more re ve nu es thal way . It also provides more stabilit y to the Ci 1y
having these well s there . in case of a drought.
Mayo r Garrell asked if there were any questions.
Mayo r Garrett sa id I ha ve one quick question . It talks about the budget of $500,000.00 . Docs thnt include
th e drilling co sts? Director Fonda sai d yes, th at was th e largest pan ... the drilling .
COUNC IL MEMBER WOLOSYN MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED TO APPROVE THE
PURCHASE OF PUMPING UN ITS FOR WATER WELLS AT THE ENGLEWOOD GOLF
COURSE AND MCLELLAN RESERVOIR .
Ayes : Coun ci l Members Barren tine, Moore, Bradshaw. Wolosy n.
Yurchick , Toma sso, Garrett
Nays : No ne
Mo1 ion carried.
12 . Gcnerul Disc ussion
(a) Mayor's Choice
(i) Ma yor Garren said I wa nt 1n congratu lale th e two new members we ha ve on
Co uncil. Also I wou ld like to recog nize Jill Ca rl ston, De nn is Schum . John l-l arpcr and Juli e Grazu lis who
also ran . For th ose who arc si lting up here, as we ll as those who ha ve bee n in campaigns, it is not th e
ea siest thi ng to do, so I ad mi re all of our ci 1izen s who are will ing to take the ri sk and run fo r office .
(b) Co uncil Members' Choice
(i) Co unci l Member Yurchic k s:11d I j ust want to welcome the new Counci l
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(ii) Co unci l Mcmoc r Wo\osy n sa id I also wanl to welc ome the new Co un cil
Members and offer co ngratulati ons 10 Mayo r Doug Ga.rre u. I wo uld also like to thank the Co unci l fo r th e
votes and the co nfide nce yo u have give n me , by clcc 1ing me as Mayo r Pro Te rn . I wo uld also like 10 thank
fo rmer M a yor Bev B ra dshaw for the stellar job she has do ne. For at least th e last si x mo nths, if not th e Inst
year, we have had a real hard ride and she took a lot of the bumps for us and I appreci ate that . Ms.
Bradsha w said th a nk you. Ms. Wo losyn said I look fo rward to getti ng down 10 more hard wor k.
{iii} Coun cil Member Barrentine said yo u are right. it is diffi cult to make a dec ision
to run and l am very fo rtunate that 1 had a lot of people and a lot of the co mmunit y support and I hope that I
ca n cam thei r trust and I intend to work hard fo r what th ey put me up here for . Th ank you.
{iv ) Counci l Member Moo re sa id I would lik e to welcome Laurett and Ray as well .
You will have fun . I wo uld like to perso nall y thank Bev fo r the last two years of lead ership yo u provided .
As Olga menti oned , yo u took a lot of blows for us. Certainly the last six month s on Council , for me. was a
lot harder than the first ei ghte,m months . And Doug, I would like to wish yo u well, as Mayor, fo r the next
two years. Thank you .
(v) Cour ~L. Member Brad shaw said l would like to welcome Ray and Lauren. I
think we have another dynamic group . We need to all so rt out what we need to do and what we do best and
I think that takes time . I also want to thank staff for the help , particularly Stewart who can confuse people
on the simplest question s more than any man I know. and the rest of the staff. It was a tough ride, but it
wa s fun and I really do need to take time for me. I've lost my creati ve muse and I think that is really
important. I look forward to serving the citi zens of Englewood two more years as Counci1 Member At-
Largc, but I hope this sets a precedent that we can be Ma yor for two years , and move on ... until the citiz.e ns
want to have a full time Ma yor, or want to ha ve a Mayor el ec ted At-Large . I think thi s is really good ,
beca use thi s helps build leaders for the future and that is part of our job of being up here too . Thank yo u.
Mayor Garrett said the last two years, because of the budget issues we ha ve had , were quite a ch allenge .
We spent more time talking about budget than we ever wanted to. Council Member Brad shaw said until
lhe dog parks .
13 . City Manager 's Report
(a) City Mana ger Scars sa id th e only 1hing that I would li ke 10 say that 1 didn 't get a chance
to say earlier tonight, becau se I think Dan did a very capable job on procedures , is th at I think one of th e
strengths of our CounciVM anager form of governmen1 , is in the City Co uncil requ est trackin g process. We
do actuall y have a proc edure that Le igh Ann has put toge th er th a1 provid ·s fo r qui ck reviews of th e
informati on in written fo rm or verbal form . I ju st w:mled to hand this out aga in 10 Co uncil LS a remind er
that if th ere arc iss ues th a1 co me up , we are required. within a three day period , to respond hqck. I do wa nt
to thank Co uncil for work ing through th at. I just enco ura ge Counci l to cont inu e 10 fo ll ow th at proc edure,
as we move ahead . Thank yo u.
Co uncil Mt :n be r Yurc hick sa id I wo uld like to ask one more quest ion now that you hand ed th is out. We
reques ted some num be rs in E:\ec uti ve Sessio n. City Man ager Sears sai d yes. Mr. Yurchi ck said when is
tha1 in fo rmation going to be o ut ? Cit y Manager Scars sa id th at is bei ng worked on ri ght now. Ac tu all y
Rick Kuhm is doing some work on th at and we will giv e th e Co un cil a full report . I don't know if it is
go ing to be ready for next week . but I suspect by Dece mber I".
14 . Cit y Attorney's Report
Cit y Att orney Brotzman did not ha ve any mnucrs to brin g before Co unc il. •
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Mayor Garrett asked if Lnurett and Ray cu rrentl y have e-mail. Ms. Barrentine sa id actually I spent so me
lime on Friday with Sue . She did a very good job of goi ng over a IOI of things. so 1hey hav e 1111 of th at in
the works and are pretty organ ized . They didn 't know to ask Ray yet though .
Ma yor Garrell stud a lot of times e-mail is the way to di stribute informatio n quickly.
Council Member Bradshaw sai d it wou ld pro bab ly help if Ray co uld sw ing by and talk to Sue tomorrow.
City Manager Sears sai d sure, we have all the materials ready to go. Or, Ms . Bradshaw sai d, you could
pick them up tonig h1 ... I saw the stack .