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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2002-03-04 (Regular) Meeting Minutes• • • ENGLEWOOD CITY COUNCIL ENGLEWOOD, ARAPAHOE COUNTY, COLORADO I. C•II tc Order Regular Session March 4, 2002 The regular meeting of the Englewood City Cou ncil was called to order by Mayor Bradshaw at 7:32 p.m. 2. ln\.·ocation The invocation was given by Cvuncil Member Nabholz. 3. Pledge of Alleglon<e The Pl edge of Allegianc e was led by Mayor Bradshaw . 4. Roll C •ii Present Absent A quomm wa s present . Also present : 5. Minutes Council Members Nabholz, Moore, Grazulis , Garrett, Wolosyn, Yurchick, Bradshaw None City Manager Sears City Attorney Brotzman Assistt.nt City Manager Flaherty City Clerk Ellis Dir.:ctor Olson, Safety Services Business and Redevelopment Coordinator Johnson Dire ctor Simpson. Community Development (a) COUNCIL MEMBER WOLOSYN MOVF.D, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEET!1'"G OF FEBRUARY 19, 2002. Ayes: Na ys : Ab s10.m : Motion carried. 6. Sched•Jled Visitors There were no scheduled vi sitors . 7. Unscheduled Visitors Council Members Nabholz, Moore, Wolosyn , Yurchick. Grazuli~. 8T3<lshaw None Council Member Glrretl (a) T . W. Anderson advisc.:t that he: is on the Ce ntennial Airpon Finance Committee . You all probably know about the :rouble we have had with the FAA, h< said , and dut we are trying to get the Eng lewood City Council March 4, lOOl Pagel mone y we need 10 kec:p the airpor1 running . The Finance Commil tc:c has decided 10 recomm end to the board th11 1 we allow 11 nine -passenger airliner out of the airport, maybe to Co lorado Springs , once a day and back . We are also recommending, as an alternate suggcslion, that we go 10 the voters with a request for a one third to a half mi ll levy for the airport . lfwe get the money from 1hc FAA we wo n't need the mill levy, he said. but we figure we ha ve to have an ahernatc phm . I hope you folks will understand how imponant the airpo n is 10 Arapahoe County. I serve on 1h111 comminee with four mayors, he said , the mayors of Aurora . Greenwood Village. Cen tenni.1 I and Lone Tree . We fee l it is very important , economic.,Uy, to Arapahoe Co tmty . The airpo rt hos 900 emplo yees and th ey are responsi bl e for another 3500 jobs in the area . l'mjust saying we would appreciate any of the help you can give us in any of the areas we an: invol ved in . He asked if anyone had an y que stions . Ma yor Bradshaw asked what he was specifica lly looking at as for as ass istance. Mr. Anderson noted they thought abo ut getting a $400 ,000 .00 to SS00,000 .00 contribution from each of the cities to help in the in 1crim. But . he said , w-: decided th 111 wasn't 1he thing to do . We go t Ar3pahoe Co unty to put up a million and a half dollars to take ~are of that. I would say that what we are con ce rned ab<-·1 is that ifwc have to go to a vote for th e mill le vy we would like to have all the encourageme nt we ca J m the City of Eng lewood . Mayor Bradshaw said okay. Counci l will take it under advi sement. Sh e thanked Mr . Anderso n 8. Comm unlcmlions. Proclamations and Appoi ntmen ls There were no co mmuni catio ns. proc lamations or appointments . 9. P ublic Hearing No public hearing was sc hed ul ed befo re Counci l. 10. Consent Agenda COUNCIL MEM\IER GARRETT MOVED, AND IT WAS SECOND ED, TO APP RO VE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 10 (a) (I), 10 (b) (I) AND 10 (c) (1), (II) and !iii). (a) Approva l of Ordinances on First Reading (i) COUNC IL BILL NO. 9, INTRODUCED BY COUNCI L MEMBER GARRETT A BILL FOR AN ORD!. ANCE APPROV ING SUPPLEMENT NO . 152 TO THE SOUTHGATE SAN ITATION DISTRICT CONNECTOR'S AG?.EEMENT FOR THE INCLUS ION OF LAND WITHIN THE DISTRICT BO UN DARIES . (b) Approvi\l ofOrdi na ;1ces on Second Reading (i) ORD INANCE NO . 9, SERIES OF 2002 (COUNC IL BILL NO . 7, INTRODUCED BY COUN CIL MEMBER GRAZULIS) AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEME 'IT llEnVEE:, THE ARAPAHOE COUNTY CLERK AND RECORDER AND THE CIT \" OF ENGLEWOOD CONCERNING THE CO LLECTION . DISBURSEMENT AND VE 1"DO :t :lETENTION OF SALES TAX . (c) Resolu tions and Motions • • • • • • Englewood Chy Co uncil March 4. 2002 Page J (i) PURCHASE ON A VOLVO GRADER THRO UG H THE COLORA D'j STATE BID PR OCESS IN TH E AMOUNT OF SI I 5,023.00 . (ii) ESTABLISHME NT OF TWO CITY-WID E SIDEWALK SA LE S EVENTS ON JUNE 8 AND AUGUST 24, ;J02 . (ii i) CONTRACT WITH KENNY MANTA INDUSTRI AL SERV ICES FOR CONSTRUCTIO N OF AQUEDUCT IM PROVEMENTS TO TH E CITY DIT CH IN THE AMOUNT OF Sl57,800.00 . Mayor Bra ds ha w asked if there was any dis cussio n. There was none . Vo te res ul u : Motion ca rried . Ayes : Council Members Nabh olz, Moore, Garrell, Wolosyn, Yurchi ck, Grazulls. Bradshaw Nays: None 11. Regular Agenda (a) Approva l of Ordin ances on First Reading There were no additiona l items submitted for appro va l on fi rst reading , {See Agenda Item 10 -Consen t Agenda .) (b) Approval of Ordinances on Seco nd Reading {i) Counci l Bill No . 3. authorizing a tempora ry reduction in the Ci ty's Ad mis sions Tax was co nsidered . Mayo, Bradsha w asked if Counci l wa nted Business and Redevelopment Coo rdinato r Johnson 10 give a presen 1a1i on. Counci l indicated a presentation was not necessary. COUNCIL MEMBER WOLOSYN MOVF.D, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO A~PROVE AGENDA ITEM II (b) (I)· ORD INANCE NO . JO, SERIES OF 2002. ORDINAN CE NO. IO. SE RIES OF 2002 AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE TEMPORARY ADMISSIONS TAX R;;DUCT JO N FOR A TWO YEA R PERIO D. Mayor Brad shaw asked if there was any discuss ion. Th ere was none. Vo le res ult s: Mot ion carried . Ayes: Co uncil Members Moo re , Garrett , Wolosyn, Yurchick , Grazuli s, Bradsha w Na ys : Cou nci l Membe r Nab holz {c) Resolutions and Mo ti ons There were no additio nal resolut io ns or mo tions submitted for approval. (Sec Agenda Item 10 -Conse nt Agenda .) Engh.•wuud Ci t~· Council !\larch-', 2002 Page-' 12. Genera l Oiscu~ J II (a) Mayo~s Choice (i) Mayor Bradshaw thanked Co un cil Member Garren for inviting Diana DeGe ne lo the mee ting th is morning . It is great 10 ha ve someo ne who will represent Englewood, unders1ands Englewood. is a nati ve of thi s area and genuinel y cares obout our community . It was so refreshin g, she said , to meel a United S1ates Representative who rea ll y, really genuinely likes our co mmunity. That was such a breath of fresh air . (ii) Ma yo r Brad shaw advised that on March 25 th we will h11 i,~ an open forum for citizens to speak 10 Co uncil and Cou nci l Member Yurchick will chair 1ha1 meeting . i have asked that we hold the forum 111 Sinclair in orde r 10 ge t it ou1 of this building and out into 1he comm w.i ty , she snid, and I hope tha1 is not a p1obkm for people . l have also reque sted that 1he one in April be held .1 1 Bishop , she said , just to ge t us out in the community. Cou ncil Member Yurchick asked if Sinclair is definite . Mayor Bradshaw said staff is sening tho.1 up. City Manager Sears said he did 1101 know if 1ha1 had been co n finned . But l know that we ha ve talked 10 them, he said . so we will verify 1ha1. Mayor Bradshaw advised thal she was thmking 1ha1 between 6:00 p.m. and 7:00 p.m. Co un cil might just do some general discussion about housing and business issues so uth of Hampden . on the Broadway corridor. Thal was al Cou ncil Member Gra zulis ·s reque st, she said, and I think 1ha1 is imponant. If people don't come 10 1he fo rum then we end up wi1h a stud y session like we had 1hat one nigh! that was just packed . For the se forums. she said. l was just wondering if we could have srud y sess ion items between C:00 p.m. and 7:00 p.m. so we don ·1 end up with one ni gh t tha1 is just packed . I don '1 know how yo u reel about that, she sa id , but it is just a suggestion . Cou ncil indicated they agreed wi 1h her sugges ti on. (iii) Ma yo r Bradshaw advised thal la st Monday's Schoo l Board mee ting wen1 very well. I think we Co\le rc d many. many issu es and we had a good discus sion . (iv) Mayo r Bradshaw advised that the meeting with Dire ctor Simpson and Chery l St. Clair we 111 we ll and we will con 1inuc 10 work cooperat ivel y. (v) Mayor Bradshaw noted the Wesley iss ue is th at AVS will be building h•Ju ses over lime . bu1 we st ill need the facts from staff before we ca n make a decision abou1 that She asked if that was Co un ci l's direction from the Study Sess ion. Do we ne ed the money or do we develop it singh? famil y'? (vi) Ma yo r Bradshaw s:i id she wou ld like 10 have slafT set up 11 meeting wi1h RTD, on General Iron Works, fo r around 1hc first of April. She said she would like Cit y Manager Sea rs to anend !hat mc e1ing and al so. Co un cil Member Garrett. ifhc is availab le. City Manager Sears said he wo uld se t that up . (vii) fi.fa yo r Bradshaw advi sed tha1 we met wi1h Littletcn and the Humane Society on lhe proposed si te for the new Human e Socie ty facilit y and the negotiations are co ntinuing . I wan! 10 tb:ink Direclor Olson , Ass is 1ant City Manager Fl aheny and Cit y Manager Sears for their efTons on thi s. (viii) Ma yo r Bradsha w noted that la st week the House of Hope celebrated their yea, anniversary and the y gave us a small wa ter spigot wilh the House of Hope on it l gave it 10 Janel • • Grinm1ctt on our s1afT, she said. because she does the work wi 1h them and 1 thought it was important for her 10 hav e that. l also have lh e House or Hope wish list and I a~ked them to e-mail it to us . l will just pass • !hi s around . she said, and if an y of yo u have ;111y of the needed ilems 1hey wo uld apprec i1lle lh.1 1 too . • En,:lcwood Cil y Council March 4. 2001 Page 5 (b ) Council Member's Choi ce (i) Cou nc il Member Nabholz no1cd , in January , a young lady came before Counci l requcsling some fu ndin g for 11 trip to Washington , D.C, and Counci l authorized 550 .00 . She had 10 tum her rm,ney in two weeks ago and she was afraid to ca ll because she though! we had changed ou r mind . My question is, she said. what is the process and ho w long docs it take when we arc going to cut 11 chcck or make a dona1ion . I think we shou ld sti ll stand by ou r promise, she said . In response 10 City Manager Scars. Ms . Nabho lz confirmed that the young lady is slill planning to go to Wo.shing1on. D.C. City Managc1 Sears asked who is sponsoring the trip . Council Member Nabholz said she was not sure. that it is through Englewood High School. Mr. Sears said we can give her a call . Ma yor Bradsha" said she thou ght ii was through a pri va te company, not through the schools . City Manager Scars said ifwe cou ld find out the name of the company wc could give them a call . We co uld then se nd 1hem th e check and they could re imburse her the $50.00 . Ifth111 is okay, he said. Co uncil Member Nabho lz said that is okay, but she was just sorry it has to be so much wo rk . Mayor Bradshaw thought she had left a letter with Ciry Clerk Ellis ttt.t night. She asked Ms. Ellis if she hod left anything with her. Ms . Ellis indicated she had not. Co uncil Member Wolosyn said I know we to ld her that we had 10 be sure that she actu;1lly had received the entire amount, beca u c we weren 't going to give her SS0.00 withou t knowing that. So , she said, maybe tho.t is where the gli tch occu rred. that she didn't come back and lei u.'i know she had the entire amount. City M:mager Sears asked Co·mcil Member Nabholz to have the young lady contact him. Ms . Nabholz said she wou ld . Co un cil Member Yurc hick asked ifsl,c had raised th e mone y. Council Member Nabholz said she sure did. Mayor Bradshaw said good for her . (i1) Coun cil Member Moore said he would like a copy of the larger document that Bryan Dc sM:irteau referred to tonight in 1erms of 1he licensing di scussio n. Mayor Bradshaw asked what that was all about, after that. Council Member Yurchkk sa id he did not know , but that he was being accused ofshonening the document. but I was not the author and I believe the author is here. Ma yor Bradsh.iw asked what that was all about. I don'I understand the citizen's con ce rn . Assistant Ci1y Manager Flohcny said he was not sur. either and he was not involved in the discussion. I do have a co py of the larger document that was initialh · prcJJarcd, he said, and 1 would be happy to provide th:it to Counc il. Mayor Bradshaw said she th ought Council Member Moore wanted a co py. Counci l Member Moore said th:it , in general, I cenainl y welcome the co ndensin g of the material , so I don 't want 10 suggest thal I'm looking for more. but in this case I would like ,o sec thi s :me . Be cause , he said. I am krnd of in1crcsted in '~rms of what is goi ng on. I would also like to make the co mment , regarding !he Englewood Cily Co uncil March 4, 2002 Page 6 memo , in 1erms of the num be rs prescnrrd, th at it 1s cle arl y unrcaSO!~b lc ,., r!Lin k thot 100% of the Clt~ will be rcgis 1crcd . I don't know what the guess is . he snid. but :u the son1e 'r im,·, looking ot the dollars that way doe sn't tell me anything . Assist.1nt Ci1 y M11m1ger Flaherty s1a1ed we can prov ide so m.: pe rcentage s ... 50%, 33 % ... 10 gi ve you some numbers thot way , as well . Council Member Moore said he knows it i~ a ~·ild gue~s, bu1 whi,tcr,.c r th,a guess mi!Jhl be , ic is sti ll at least a little more 10 go on . City Manager Scars asked who else wan1ed a copy of th e 28 page document Council Members Yurchick and Grazulis indicated that they already have it. Co uncil Me mber Nabholz said she probably should have it, as they will be discuss ing it at a Study Session. Co uncil Member Wolosyn sai<l she didn't need a copy, bu1 thi;:t she would like to come by and look at one. I once mentioned to Co uncil Member Ywchick. she said that it mi ght be nice 10 have a pl ace in Council's linle room where we co uld have these larger documents and we co uld go and look at th em. Mayor Bradshaw agreed . I am really against us running ofT cve rything . Mayor Bradshaw opined that this was such a di sc onne cted discu ss io n tonight. I don't know ifit w3sjust me. she said . but it didn't make sense , it didn ·1 feel that those were bis words coming ou t of his moulh . Co uncil Member Yurchick advised Co un cil that Mr. OcsMarteau does n't suppo rt 3 101 of thi s, but he is the spokesman fo r th e Code Enforcement Comminee. Council Member Moore noted he was asked point blank and he said he did support it, .1s we ll as the co nunince . Is thill no1 the case ? Mayor Bradshaw sa id dull is why I asked the ques ti on. Cou ncil Member Moore · .. ··cd that Mayor Bradshaw asked him poin1 bl ank ifhe personally supported it and he said yes. Council Member Yurchick said his commen ts in the commi ncc mee1ings ha ve led me 10 believe 01herwise . Unle ss. he said , he has changed his mind and he may have . Mayor Bradshaw said I know we requested another srud y session, bul , number one, I can ·1 justify adding a person 10 keep track of pets . The people who don't get thei r dogs tagged, li censed or take them to 1he vet, arc still 1he ones who won't register them. So we put this who le governmen tal thing t('lgcthcr, she said, and, from where I sit right now, I just don 't think it is necessary . Counc il Member Yurchick said ii is his und er .. ,,mdi ng lhllt th ey don '! enforce the vaccina1ion law, even when the y pick up the animals . Ma yor Bradshaw commen ted th:11 the y are asking fo r more la ws to enforce. when we don't enforce the la ws we have . (iii) Cou ncil Member Garrett : I. He said he would lik e to know wha t .25 % of our sal es 1ax is . I couldn't quickly do the numbers in my head, but the Arapahoe Coun 1y Open Space is .25 % so I would like 10 sec wha 1 we are generating in sale s ta x, against that number, to sec what our take would be . • • • • • Engll'~~'ootl City Council March 4. 2002 Page 7 Mayor Bradshaw no1cd 1h01 actua ll y we arc gelli ng 1.25%. so we wo uld be ge ning half of wh.11 we co ll ect ofT of thnl rnill lcv y. Co un ci l Member 'Ja rrell sai d mos ! of 1he ope n space 1hey are 1alking abou t is 10 the east Mayor Bradshaw sa id yes . So, Mr. Ga rren aske d, if we we re 10 say 10 our cilizens do yo u want to do th is fo r yourse lf at .1%, would we be ge neratin g for Eng lewood the sa me nmoun1 of money. II seems very rich 10 me, he said . Mayor Bra ds haw said that is a good poi nt Co un cil Member Wo losyn co mmented th o.I she 1houglu rhc y said in one place 1ha1 it is based on vehicl e re gistr.ui on, but then in anothe r p\at;e it so.id ve hi cle registra1ion/rcve nuc. Cou nci l Member Garren said it is vehi cle registration , so I wan t to see how 1h01 compares 10 our sales tax numbers. Just 10 get a se nse of whe re we are . he said . Co un ci l Member Wo losyn sai d she was also wonder ing abou1 the actua l num be rs they were usi ng for ve hicle registratio n. Arc they sure it is us , or is it one of those thi ngs that co uld be zip code base d and then there would be a big prob lem once it was passed? Co unci l Memb er Garren said it is jusl so mething I wou ld like infom1atio n on. Ma yor Bradsha w said I was nol impre ssed, period . Co uncil Membe r Carrc't s·. , it was extremel y rich for my blood . 2. He said, with ,. :-..cc 1 10 the propcnies on Wes ley, that th ey are zo ned for more density than we are talking about buil ding ;o I th ink one of the things we arc looki ng nt, is if we own those properties lets go nhead and up-zo ne d , : places . Because one of the justifications for taking o. lo ss. he said , wo uld be the cos1 if we decide to zo ne prope rty and c re ate R-1-A th ere, wh ic h is so mc1hing we arc always seeking. So lets go ah!!ad an 1ock that in. he said. because th e last thing we wa nt is fo r so meone to bu y a house and ten years from nov. .azc it and put in dup lexes , ifthD our ult imate goa l. That is just so methin g 10 1hink about as we go f,..:;-v.•ard . Ma yo r Bradshaw said I thought it wn s Counci l's goa l to raise the bar on 1hc qualiry of houses up there . That ev er y house docs not have 10 have a garage 1ha1 faces the fron t street, th e de sign needs 10 be bcner and we want to encoura ge si ngle fami ly owne rship . Co unci l Member Garrett said w.: can do th at to our propcny and go ahea d and rezone . Mayor Brad shaw said that is a good point . Mr . Gan.-tt said it is just an idea. 3. He noted he appreciated the trailer on Quincy and th e informa ti on . Correc l me if l am reading this wro ng, he sai d. but it appea rs th e trai ler works . It ha s slowed down peop le comi ng off that !till. by abou1 fou r mile s an hour, he said. which I 1hink is quite a lot. Direc tor Olson sa id. then again. we have kids who try to sec ho w fa st they arc going by using th e 1railcr as their r :nc hmark speed device . He said it is hard to sty whether the tra il er slows them down or th e trailer is j ust : too l measuring the normal trav eling speed . Co uncil Member Garren said he saw brake lights . When you moved ii up the hill a bit, I could set: peop le braking when they saw the traile r. Ma yo r Bradshnw said th at is good . Director Olson advised that he and Direc1or Ross have viewed so me perma nent devices tha t can actua ll y be mount ed there permanen tl y. Tha l is anothe r ahcrna tivc. ns opposed to a temporary. mobile type unit that is Englewood Chy Co uncil March-'· 2002 Page 8 onl y !here a few weeks out of 1he year. So, he said. there arc other alterna li ves . Mr. Garren thanked Mr. Olso n. 4. He suued he ha s a greal amou n1 of pride whe n people tour thi s building and we show them what we nre doing here, as we did this mornin g. I think pe ople who haven ·1 Leen here for a whil e, and then the y see what is going on , arc impre ss ed ar wh,u we have ac co mpli shed. So, he said, I take a lot of pride in showing 1hi s building off and the fa cilities. (iv) Counc il Member Wolosyn : I. She sai d she was very happ y that she attended the meeting th is morning and toured th e building with Dia na DcG cttc , Like Council Member Garren. I was impressed w::h how impress ive we looked an d I wa s \'cry proud , she said . She noted that City Manager Sears and Mayor Bradshaw did a gre:11 job of showi ng us off. 2. She advised that she menlioncd thi s last week . at the Schoo l/C ity meeting, that Co uncil Member Garren had :u ked that Co un ci l Member Nab hol z and I take the lead on trying 10 do so mething to make sure the parade goe s fo nh . We will be mee ting wi th Na ncy Reid, when I ge l home on March 191 \ to take a look at wh:11 reall y happens . She noted tha t the staff docs an awfu l lot of wo rk and the co mmun ity docs a lot of work , bul we need 10 define both of tho se areas . Ma ybe we should be lookin5 al a communit y.bas ed gro up in the form of a board or commission, she said, bu1 we would wa nt to be using the existing corporation . So we arc goi ng 10 be looking at ways 10 do that , she said. and we will rcporl back 10 Co un cil after we talk to Ms .Reid . 3. She no1ed in the pa cke t !h ere is a list of 1he letters from 1he Cultural Ans Co mm iss io n anJ the list of vacan ci es. Th ere ha s been one rc signatton, Ro se mary La Pana has moved out of the Ci ty and closed her business and on e member has n't co me 10 very man y meetin gs. When we discus se d 1erminating the se three posilions. she !;aid. I 1hink II was 1hc co nse nsus of the Commission 10 wait until June . We can cc nainly ask the se peo pl e to resubmi t 1heir applications. but we wou ld lik e 10 shc.w a vac ancy fo r Cultural Ans . I just wanted 10 menn on !hat. she said . Cit y Manager Sears said he wanted 10 clarify 1ha1 th e Co mmi ssion wa nt s us 10 go ahead and .idvenise for vacancy and then Co uncil will se le ct in June, al the reg ular time . Counci l Member Wo los)ll said yes, in June . we just wa n11 0 keep it on 1he regular schedule . 4. She said ::.~e recei ved a ca ll today from Kyle MacMillan from rhe Denver Po st. He is doin g a stor1 on the number of ini1ia1ivcs for an centers going forward in the mc1ro area and he wanted 10 as k aboul ours . I gave hi m wha t I though ! was an accurate update of where we arc, she said . I advi sed him th111 the Cu ltural Ans Commi ssio n wrot e a co mprehensive busine ss pl an a year and a half ago and we fe el we arc ready lo revis it it Th ai thin gs have changed in the metro area , in 1hc City and with our goa ls. That Co unci l included SJ00,000 .00 in the 2002 Budget for the fir sl ins1 allm en 1 in a land bank. That th e next thing we will be worki ng on is ca miarking site s that we can work wi th to go forward . Ms. Wo losyn sa id , no! ne cessa ril y rh \1 lhere will be an ans center, bu1 lets earmark a spot and see how it works in the co mmuni ty. I wan! to .thanl. rhc various Co uncil members, she said, who have been so supponiv e and have helped me lea rn lo an1cula.1e 1his . In the comin g weeks, afler I ge l bac k from Washin gton. D. C., I wou ld like 10 get serious abc.u! defining a site. lfwc arc go ing 10 be loo kin g a1 developing ol her areas of th e City, she sa id . I definitel y \,·anl .1s 10 be looking .i.t puning in ano1hcr fine publi c building that we can show off, just as we did with !his b ll ding 1odn y. \\') Counci l Member Yurc hick: • • • • • • Englewood Ci ty Counci l Much 4. 2002 r,g e 9 I. In res ponse 10 a cou pl e of citizen requests, Mr. Ywchick asked for a summa ry of th e David Taylor deal, what we arc going 10 give them up front and what they will get annuall y. Also , when will MOA provid e JC co unting for th eir $50,000.00 contribution to the City? City Ma na ge r Scars asked Assis tant City Mana ge r Flabcny to respond . Mr. Flahcny advised that the MOA accounting is at the end oftbeir contract year, which is the end of Jun e. We have a deal sheet with David Taylor, he said, when we can prov ide . Co uncil Member Grazulis said she wo uld also like 10 sec that. Assistan t Ci ty Manager Flaherty advised that the deal sheet with Da vid Taylor is subj ect to a final co ntract which we do not have . City M:magcr Sears said there is a deal sheet that Counc il app roved al ong with Da vid Taylor and we ca n pull that up fo r Coun cil. 2. He said ACE asked what the Building Department is doing with their internal survey. Oirec1or Olso n :1dvised 1hat the y ha ve redeveloped the form and the form can now be easi ly compmerized with 1he dat:i . So the y slancd on tha1 and the data entry ha s already begun. Th ey wo rked with the IT Department and it is all sc i. Council Member Ywchick sa id oka y, I will let them know. Cit y Manager Scars asked Dire ctor Olson 10 provide Coun ci l with a copy of that form and , al so, a co py to Jan Johnson and sh e can put it in the ACE packet 3. fee . He asked why Code Enforcement does n't have th e umc to enforce 1he SI00.00 per derelic1 \lchiclc Mayor Bradshaw said she wo ndered abou1 that too . Counci l Member Grazulis said that was her question too . Co unci l Member Yurchick said he didn't ne ed :111 an swer toni ght. Director Olson said he didn't have one anyway, as this is the fir st time he has heard that Mr. Yurchick .)aid it is not the first time he has heard it. Mr. Olson said he is really not sure. Ass is1an1 Ci ty Manag er Fl ahe rty said he could add something to that. He offered that ii is a regi stra tion fee, not :1 fine . I think :1 fin e was mentio ned in th e pre se n1ation , he said. App:.ren11y , there is a regi strati on fe e on the books :ind the re gistra tion ha s ne ve r been implemented for reasons unknown . Co unci l Member Yutc hic k stated it is SI00.00 per year, per derel ic t vehicle . It is a la w on the books. Assis 1:m1 Cit y Mana i er Flaherty said :tpp:trently so , but I haven't see n the citation. Director Ol son !-':&1d they will reall y look at 1hat, because th:11 was confusing 1onight. I think yo u ar~ talking abou t the Hobb y Vehicle ordi nan ce, but I'm not positive, so 1 will find out whnl is goi ng o n. 4. He 3S kcd why th e lener was shonened tonight. I am sure I will be :tsked that question. Co uncil Member Grazu lis also wondered why it was shonened. Assistant City Manager Flah eny advised that the presentation that was prepared by a Code Enforce ment sw.ff member was reviewed by the City Manager 's office and it was dctennined that it appeared to be adv ocatin g. in particular, the differential fee for spz.ycd vers us unspa yed and neutered versus unneutered Englewood Cl 1y Co uncil Morch ~. 2002 Page 10 :im rtull s. Basic all y. he said , wha1 yo u saw, that I redid, was a document with the information rcguding the spaded and neutered animals deleted . 5. He ndviscd Council that he would be late next week . 6. He conunenled, regarding the Code Enforcemenl Committee, tha1 he has gotten the impression over tf ,e la st yea r 1hat it is kind of the tail wagging the dog . Th.11 it is staff driving that committee and it is no1 lhc co mmincc se tting the agenda . I ha \'c read the ordinance on establishing the Code Enforcement Commiuce. he snid, which prcny cle11rly oullim:s their duties , bul it doesn't really oulline staff's role with that Committee. I just have a fund11mcntal issue when something like this dog licensing comes forward and it is directed out of Code Enforcement. So we have the peopl e who have to enforce the law, trying 10 wri1e thclnw. Mayor Bradshaw asked Director Olson ifhc would like to respond 10 thi s. Direclor Olson no ted that the Dr.pa nmcnt of Safety Services continunlly presents \ ·ous lews th11t we would like to sec put in place , so it is not unusu11l to have staff mnke those proposals . So I guess , he said, it is to the extent that yo u feel it is an 11dvocacy type of po:;irio n and I think that is what was revi ewed in the 28 p11ge document. It appeared, he said . to be 100 much of an advocacy type of thing . We di scussed it and I don 't t.1ink it was , but it just may hBve come out t'ml way. Regardles s, that is why the document was cut down 10 make ii look like it was more a neutral posuion, which it actually should be . But, he noted, there arc 11 ,•ariety of rc11sous that we come forward 10 Council wi th different proposed ordinances, so ti.al is not ur.•Jsual to ha ve staff doi ng that. Council Member Yurchick said his co nce rn, on 1his panicul :u issue, was thut he fell hke the Code Enforcement staff was trying 10 railroad this thing in, the wa y the y wanted ii, not so mu ch the way the Comm ittee w11 n1ed it. Director Ol soll s:iid he wo ul d be re11I hone st. He sui1ed that we don 't reall y care which way tJ1is goes. Wha1evcr Counci l puts m place , he said, that is what we will enforce . But we reall y don 't care ifil doesn't go through :it :ill . That's fine with us . lf it docs. obviously we will work with it in the best way that we can , But . he no 1cd, its nol somc 1hing that we hnvc se t around and said we have to ha ve this . Co unci l Member Yurchick said the iss ue isn ·1 the law, whether the law passes or not is irrelevar,1 to me . The issue is th e fact that staff is driving thi s stuff and the committee isn '1. Ma yo r Bra dshaw sai d then what yo u arc saying is the Committee is supposed to gel neutral infol11llltion and serve in :m advisory capacity 10 Co un cil and that is not h.llppcning. Counci l Member Yurclf ;aid it is to the point that Code Enforcement has a list of items the y want on the agenda and it is not dri :e11 "Y the Committee itself. Mayor Bradshaw sai d yo u mean the Code Enforcement Officers have a list of thin gs they want. Directo r Olson sa id well sure , that is the way it has been for years prior 10 the Comminec being in place. Council put the Advisory Committee in place to be a ci tize n represe ntative bod y, but prior to that, we would comr directly to Council with these issues . No w we go through 1hc Committee and tluit is fine . It has 1aken us several years 10 get comfo nablc with why they are th ere, what r.rc Council's expectations and what arc we supposed to be doing with them. I totall y agree, he said, I doa 'I want my folks over there strong ly ad vocating a position . They can definite!)' say that this is how we would like 10 sec it, but if you wnnt 10 do it differently , that is fine with us . • • • • • • Englewood Ci ly Counci l ~l•rch 4, 2002 Page II Co un cil Membe r Yurchick sa id 1hat is fine, but my concern is tha1 the Co mminee should be the driving fo rce on 1hese issues . Director Olson said I think they will be on mo st of the issues and wiless they are cons tantly brought up lo date on wh:ll's going on or what staffs iss ues ar<!, then they won't be aware of them . II :s actually both groups working together, he sai d, and that is the way ii should be . Then they make reco mm endations to Co un cil. He advised that there will be times when staff will come to Council with something, regardle ss of where the Comminee is at, because it is something we need to do as a staff. Just as we do with police related ma net1 or fire matters . We don't go 1hrough a committee to make sure it is okay. We analyze the iss ue , come forwarct 10 you with our posilion and see wha t Council thinks about it. Co uncil Member Wo losyn ::;aid I think that is an important point yo u are making . Say, in Cultural Ans, I wouldn't want stafTpuning thing s through di rectly 10 Council without informing the Commission. On the other ha nd, she said , the Commission will bring up its own points 100, Things come from bolh ways, to come back to us. Director Olson said that was his understanding .is 10 why ihe Committee was put in place ; at least it was scvcr:il yea rs ago , when it first started up . Counci l Member Wolosyn said she agreed with Cou nci l Member Yurch.ick, slaff shouldn't direct. Director Olson sai d he :igreed. I don ·1 wa nt to have our fo lks j ust sitting there slamming so mething down that Co mm ittees throat and then th '!y fe el that the y have to go with it. That is no! it, he said. Ma yor Bradshaw opined that there is a fine line th ere . We h:ive staff for the Planning and Zoning Co mmi ssio n. the Code Enforce ment Advisory Committee and the Parks and Recreation Commission anc'. I think it is a fine line, a fine profei.sional line that people need to walk . Being advisory versus recommending . And that is yo ur con cern, she said, that there are recommendation s coming through and nol advice . Co un cil Member Yurchick said 1,js question is how do we address this is sue . Mayor Bradshaw asked if Council should tighten up committee rules . Co un ci l Member Grazulis sugges ted that Co uncil rev iew the rul es . Direc tor Olson sai d he didn't hear that. Cou ncil Member Yurchick said his question was how do we address •his issu e. Direct or l JO :id vise d that he would. obviously, address it internally. When the Committee first staned out, he said. I was there and then I ba cked out of it , because l didn't wa nt them to feel li ke the Director of Safety Se r"i ccs was so meho w leading the Co mmittee . Which. he said, I have to tell you that at the fusl meeting we actua ll y did, because we had :i group of people who were rea ll 1 not quite su.re why the y were there and wh:it the)' were suppo sed to be doing . So I graduall y backed out :ind that is why we have also not allowed most of th e s1a IT members 10 be there. bec:iusc tha1 was cre:iting so mewhat of a prob le m too . My understanding is that right now David Lynn will be there , occas ionally Bob Moore and, of course, Mike Flaherty from the City M:inagcr's office . We have tried to remove that intimidation factor and the fee ling th:it we :ire trying 10 push issues . Counci l Member Yurchick s:iid that is hi s concern. that he wants 1he Co mmittee to deve lop th ei r agend:i. I'm not se tting their age nd:i and I don 't c:i.re what their :igend:i is, he said . but I think th ey should be setting their own t1.genda . Eng lewood Cil y Council l\l:trch 4. 2002 Page 12 City ~fanage r Scars sai d I think 1his is a discussion wc can co me back 10, I think we have a number of co mmittee s th at staIT is invo lved wi 1h, Be it ACE, or ahc Pl :mnin g :ind Zo ning Co mmi ss ion N the Code Enfo rce ment Advi sory Co mmitte e. And, he commented. 1hc Code Advisory Commin ee is always one of fhc mo st difficult, because we are either enforcing ii too hard or enforcing it too light We are going to co ll ec tiv ely get hi! one way or !h e other . He orined that we nee d 10 develop so me proposals and so me po licies 10 deal with the diffe rent clements of every co mm.iuec we have. And, as Director Olson sa id , then we nc c:d to lea \'e off and as k if th e commiuce wants us to follow-u p with tha t or ask if thi s is so methin g 1hat is taking it too for beyond whe re you want 10 sec it. It is a pend ulwn. He noted we faced that two or three years ago when it was too lax and we we ren 't enforcing adequately , I think 10 a cen o.in ex1ent we ha ve heard thn.1 we arc ove r cnfor ·ing ii or we arc enforcing it 100 stric t or stri cter than some peo ple wou ld like or we are taking it to a di!Tcrcm leve l. But we need to stay in touch wi th th at Co mmittee . Mr . Scars poimcd out that ifwc don't make a recommendatio n about things th at can improve 1hings th en we arc reall y not doi ng our job . We arc aJc.m in a pos it io n of knowl edge, he said . We arc out there and we kind of know wha t is going on and the committees , as \'O lunte er.;, kind of rely on the people who have that knowledge . I don 't think we framed thi s is~uc adcqua1cl y. As , Assis 1ant City Manager Flah en y sai d. we tri ed 10 neutrali ze where we we re 111, but ma ybe we need to work on how we do things . Co unci l Member Yurchick so.id th at is fine . For instan ce, he said, in my opinion , ir should ho ve been neutral before it eve n go t to !he City Mana ge r's Office. City Mana ge r Sears said I think y()u are probably right That is , quite frankly , why I ha ve had Mike Flahe n y sta y on the Code Enfo rccm.:nt Advisory Co mmin ee . Bec au se it is a hot issue in !hi s co mmunit y, it will always be a hot iss ue in thi s community e.nd I wa nt to make sure tha t al my level, we are in lune wi th that I'm not !l ure we stayed where Co uncil wo uld like for us to stay, he sa id, but I th ink Council's direction is re lorivel y clear and l think that is what we would like to do . It is a two .way street. Jfwe guide a commincc by saying "look, yo u don '! wa nt to do !his type of thing" then 1 think we cou ld be in the same jeopardy as we arc when we say "take a look at it." I think II is how we pre se nt that information . Our job. as staff, is to pre sent ideas and present ways to im pro\'e th ings and 1hen step back and ask the cit izens if thi s is what the y would like 10 sec enforced within their co mmuni ty . We probabl y just need to de, a bener job, he said, perhaps 1his one shouldn '1 have rea ched th is lc \'e l in 1hc way that it di d. Ma yo r Bradshaw said ma ybe that is why I f.:h thi s was incomp lc1c, 1ha1 we wc ren ·1 read y to di scuss it and I do n ·1 tlunk they were read y 10 present to 'JS. That is wha t I wa s sensi ng. Council Member \Vo \osyn said , fo r me, the ga p was tha t I do suppon lic ens es. now give me a way that I can un de rstan d. th at it co ul d 3C tuall y happen. The alternatives I heard tonight didn't so und , to me . ilS if the y were rea ll y feasible . That w:1s th e g.1p fo r me, she said . and if that is th e case 1hen just say that it is not feasible at this time. Ma yo r Bradsh3w Silid it didn't seem thought out enough. Direc tor Simpson's prcsc nt :uions wt1·e though t out enough. thi s one did n't see m lik e it WilS. Co unc il Me mber Yurchick noted a l01 of work went into th is one . Mil )'Or Bradshaw sai d t am not sayi ng wo rk , I'm just saying it hadn 't bee n pared d own yet. Co uncil Member Yurchick sa id that is what happens when yo u ha ve one guy crCAting the p1 0JCCt and another guy having 10 present it. who may not suppon the project 100%. Ma yor Bract sh:i.w asked 1f 1h1s answe re d so me of ~fr Yurchi ck's co nc erns or ca n we conu nu e to wo rk Qn them. Cou ncil Member Yurchick stud as far as the co mmincc rc la1 ionshi p? Ma yor Bradsln1w said ye!;. • • • • • • Eni,:lcwood Ci1y Co undl Mardi~-2002 Page 13 Co uncil Mem ber Yurc hic k said no , we ha ve not re cei ved an answer . Ho w do we :ic t these guidelines so the co mmim:es kn ow what 1hc boundarie s arc'? Co uncil Member Wo losyn said I wo uld have to say 1hat tho se are hard to defi ne and it would be hard to s::1 a group of mie s. A lot of it i~ dynamics. If it is 11 group of people who just wa n! to lake direction from staff. then it will go that way, if yo u have 11 stron g gro up .:,f people thl!n th at's a different iss ue. II is a dymuni c that works it self out, she said, and I think we have an honest stru cture . I think w.:, do . Ma yo r Bradsha w stated eve ry time you ha ve 10 go through stormi ng and nonning . I think it sounds like you have a hu ge turno ve r in 1h:u group, she said , and yo u are probably ready to start doing that again and tt at is a group proce ss . ~fo yo r Bradshaw asked Co uncil Member Yurchick what he wo uld lik e to see . Counci l ~,tembe r Yurchi ck said I don 't know, l don't ha ve any answer~. I don't even know what the role s are and I don 't think they arc cl early defined. Ci 1y Manager Sears said he wanted to make a suggestion . As we heard tonight. Counci l is no t satisfied wi th the informntion or the method that it was presented . We took a look at one sid e that said this how this can co me toge th er and thi s is how it can wo rk and here are se\'Cn different options to make it work . But we rea ll y di dn't take a look nt those that would say 1ha1 thi s is really kind of an additiona l burden , thi s is an additional prob lem. I know there is that fee ling among Co un cil and the cit izenry . i would like to 1ake that ba ck to th e Co mminee. he said. and ask them to tak e a look at it from !hat viewpoint. Are we goi ng to :ict uall y get enough people to particip 111e in thi s and can th e exis ting staff people :ictun ll y handle 1hi s or is there another method to do thi s? Perhaps :i voluntary registration would wo rk. for tho se tl,at wunt to do tha1. I think , he said. that tht:re arc a who le range of different optio ns th:it the Co de Enforcement Advi sory Co mmiu ce cou ld potentiall y talk about. tf yo u arc not happy with certai n iss ues, he said, then Council co uld handle it just like th ey did with ACE. Council rcnt11nded certain things back to them for further stud y. So th at is ne alternative that Cou nci l can choose, with maybe so me direction, and th at is what the Advisory Co mm in ee is there to de:il with . I think the comment, that perhaps this was a little overl y staff dri ven. is pro bab ly an okay thin g. Being hone st about that and sayi ng okay Committee, on yo ur own. without influen ce from staff. wha t do yo u think about that'! I think that co uld be art icu late d to them and I would be happy to make those comments. with Mike Flaherty's help. if the Counci l feels that way . Maye · Bradshaw asked if th at so unded better. City Manager Sears noted that the y can run the iss ue back 1hrough 1hc Co mmittee again and if they are still saying tha 1 absolu 1el y thi s is th e be st thing si nce sliced bre:id, then they can co me ba ck 10 Counci l and then it is up to Co uncil to make that final de cision. Co un cil Me mber Yurchic k stared the issue is n't this ordinance. To me. he said. it is the symp tom . The problem is th:i.t I wa nt th e Committ ee to vo ice their opinion and th eir input. Mayo r Bradsh aw said . 10 pla y devil's advoca1e. we crca 1cd 1his thing call ed Code Enforcem ent. We pushed it reall y hard five years ago . We didn't have enou gh code enforceme nt , so we sa id we want more code enforcement We c:ve n hired a guy tu tell us how to manage code enforc ement and where ii sho ul d be and how to handle it. Now 1hat we ha ve 1hi s. our creation , 1 hea r from ci ti zens that we ha ve 100 much coJe enforcem ent. So. she said. th ere is a fine balance the re . But I also think we nee d to get ba lan ced pro s and co ns on iss ues tha1 co me before Co un ci l. Ma ybe , she sa id . that is th e role of tho se co mmittees. Thal 1hey should think through how this work s, what would stop it from working and to give us 1he whole pi ct ure and 1ha1 would be part of 1he1r pro cess . Englewood Cl 1y Co uncil March 4, 2002 Pag e 14 Council Member Yurchick said rig ht My co nce rn is 1hat 1he y should rtcei ve commil1ee input , he said, and I didn '1 feel that 1hcy hnd tlut wi1h 1his one . Ma yo r Brad shaw s:1id ii sat wrong wi 1h yo u 101all y, from 1he begin nin g. Mr . Yurchick said yes. Council Mem ber Graz ulis said she agreed with Mr. Yurchic k. Counci l Member Moore asked if the y could reinforce, with thi s pnnicular co mmittee , that 1he y arc there on behalf of Council. Thal cou ld come fr om 1hc Ci ty Co unci l rcpre scnuuivc or the City Manager's Office, just as a reminder. I hc:ir a lot or pros and co ns about code enforcement , he said , and I want to look to lhi s comminee to re pre sent the ci tizen~ in thi s process . Ma yo r Bradshaw sa id yes and for them 10 help with that balance . So. Mr . Moore said , leis remind th em th a1 the y arc the re for us, 10 help us w 1 these issues . Mayor Bradshaw asked if that pro vides a linle more dir.:ction . l just needed the gestalt fini shed , she said. there was a piece and that was all we had , Council Member Ga rTelt said al 1he s.i me lime I look al the Parks and Recreation Commission , where a lot of the th ings that cr,me before them is staff driven . II is then up to that committee to act as the filter for that. which I think is the proper role of the committee . What I am hearing , he said, is that there is a feelin g that ma ybe 1hc co mminc c wasn'I the proper filter in this case. I hate to start defining roles and responsibilities too clearly. beca use lh tll actuall y bothers me . Ma yor Brndshaw agreed. Council Member Garrett sai d it was the filtering procedure he wou ld like 10 emphasize, as much as the responsibility . Council Member Moo re said thal if you make it as clear as what I just said , then Code '.!nforccmcnt co uld lake an advocac y role, as long as the committee knows 1hey don 't ha ve 10 do anythinr, with it if they don't want 10. that they can se rve as that filter . Mayor Bradshaw sai d she thought th ey fell that the y had to ha ve on answer, thal they had to come up with a li cens in g program. I don 't know that that was our direction, she said. Council Member Wolo syn said " . 'id ask them 10 give us a pi ctu re of what it would look like if we passed licensing, how II would be implemcn,ed . For me . she said, I was so n of stunned. Is it reall y that expensive a pro posi tion? Ma yor Bradshaw said th is is my own bias, but I still th ink we are missi ng the point tolall y, because th e responsible pct owners will be rcsponsi'n lc and those tha1 arc i1Te spo nsibl e will be irresponsible and yo u can 't le gis la1e respo nsibi lity. Co un ci l Member Ga1Tcrt noh:d. referring to Cou ncil Member Yurchick s comment th at he would be late next wee k, tho.t Co uncil does 1101 hnvc a meeting next week . City Manager Scars said he wo uld like 10 bring thi s 10 a little bit of closure . l would ask that Co uncil send this ba ck to the Code Enforcement Advisory Co mmitt ee with so me direction . llt.a.t the y at least take a look at this is sue . not in terms of how it can be established , but in tenm of what it means to the community and take a loo k at both 1he pros and co ns of it and !hen co me back with a rcpon . Council Memlxr Ga1Tc tt sugges ted th ey properl y utl inc the question . Should we have this and if the ans we r is yes, !hen here is th e primary and here is the seco ndary . Bui , he pointed out, th e answer ma y be no. Th al is 1hc ques1ion. he said. whe ther the Ad visory Comm in ce felt the y had the powe r 10 say no . • • • • • • Englewood Ci ly Coundl ~hl reh -1 . 2002 P,ge IS Ccu ncil Member Vu rc h1 ck said he does not know the :inswcr 10 1ha1 ques1ion . Mayor Brad shaw asked City Manager Si:ars what other dire ction he needed . She asked if it is clear now . Mr . Scars sug ges ted the y write somet hing up and se nd it out 10 Co unci l and then send it to the Conuninee, 10 m.1kc sure that the questions Council ho s is give n to the m so the y can address those when the y come back . Cc uncil t\•lember Yurc hick said yo u know thi s will go to public hearing and we will pack the house on licensin g. Ci ty Manager Sears said yes , that is true . Co uncil Membe r Garren said yes. unle ss the answer is no . Ma yor Bradshaw sa id I th ink that could be decided real fast. (vi) Council Member Grazu lis : I. She said I am also on the Code Enforcement Advisory Committee and I hnve been uneasy si nce I walked into it , because I didn·1 get into it from th e stan. I was trying 10 figure out which direction they were headed and what it was going 10 be. I had a problem with the co mpany they chose, she said, and not cc..ming up with enough ktters of recommendation . Becau se ofmy hi story wi th this issue, I didn 't say much , so I was kind of silent. and just sat there . They kepi asking me what I thought and how Council would perceive this and I wasn·1 going 10 give them any answe rs right up front l was also uneasy with the mone y aspect or ii. that i1 was jusl toully un1rue and some of the things were base d on the mone y . 2. She noted Co un cil used 10 gel updntc s from Jim Ulrich regarding things that were happening in Englewood, such as murders and fires a nd stuff. She pointed out 1h:11 things have happened , we we re le.Id the y were se nsitive, we never got an)1hing and th en we wo uld read about it in the Englewood Hera ld. People do ask me abou 1 these things , she said, and I was just wondering if we cculd have some type of Co uncil upda te when serio us things happen within our City . If ! don't listen to the news, then I don't kno w what is go mg on. Mayor Bra ds ha w asked if Counci l could receive e-mails . If there is a fire or so methin g we always get e- mails. she stud. but if !here is an unso lv ed murder we read about ii in the pa pe r. Co un cil Member Grnzulis said in panicular if it is a murt1e r or rape and it is close to home I would kind of like 10 know. Besides. she said. it is difficuh when people Sta n to call me 10 ask me about it and th en I ha\·e to say I have no idc:? what you are talking about. City Mana ger Sears slated there is a linle bi1 of a disconnect so metime s. but you are right. yo u are on the line becau se people ex pect yo u 10 kno w. So, he sa id, we need 10 do a heller job of m.Jking Counci l aware of 1hose emergency si ruations . Co un cil Member Grazulis said so metime s I ge t ca ll s if, for instance, the y heard a lot of si rens at 3:00 a.m. and they want 10 know what happened and 1 have no idea. I reali ze if it was nothing real imponant I may nc\'Cr know. she sai d. and I don·1 need 10 know everything . 3. She said she w:m1ed to make a eo mment regarding the group tho.I came to us about the open space . I do like the concep t of acquiring more land for the Arapahoe County Fairgruunds . she said. because I was on 1h1s before the y 1ore u down and I have a long history of trying 10 preserve that and keep it from being a stnp null . which did not happen . However, one of the thin gs I am in favor of, regarding this group , is that when the Arapahoe County Fairgrounds group does hold a fair it is ei th er in the comp lex in Denver or in Deer Trail o.nd yo u don't get much pan,cipation west of Deer Trail. Ms . Grazulis pointed out that Eng lewood Cil)' Co uncil M.rch ~. 2002 Page 16 Ara pahoe Cou nty is the onl y county that doc s not have a fairgrounds . Ir you ca n imagine, Aropuhoc Co unty, being one or the ri ches t counties and not havi ng a fairground s, it is rather absurd . That, she said, is j ust my comment on that 4. She ad vised thal ti ckets can be ob tained from Amy Doe for Back 10 Bach, which is a concen scheduled for Frida y, March 22 nd at 7:30 p.m. in our Civic Cen ter atrium. l think it will be rea lly nice , she said, and there should be po sters all around . Co un cil Member Wolosyn noted that Cou nci l should be re ce iving rickets . 5. She sa id slle had II quer.don regarding the gree n iro n wo rk that h11s been goin g up around the businesses. It seems like we have come 10 a stall , she said, but ma ybe that is just economics or there is no one will ing to do it anymore . She asked if there is a stall in putting that green iron work up . Bu si ness and Redcvclopmen1 Coo rd inator Johnson advised that actually we arc still mo vi ng forward w.th that and you will sec so me more co ming up soon . She noted that is pan of tbc Catalyst Program that goes alo ng Sout h Broadwa y and Hampden . We had 3 business near Genera l Iron Works that put up there own green iron wo rk, she sa id . They called us. got all the specifics fo r it and knew that the y weren 't qualified for the progra m, but the y still wanted to ha ve the Englewood green iron work. Co unci l Member Grazulis said that is wonderful. Mayor Bradshaw said we nee d to send th em a letter or so mething . Coun cil Member Grazulis agre ed and asked if we would be se nding the m a lette r thanking them fo r paniciparing. Ms . Johnson advi se d that the y have already se nt them a letter . Grazulis said that is great. Counci l Member Grazuli s asked, when a property within En glewood make s wonderful improvements to th eir house or business , if we have any kind of recogniti on like we used to do with li gh ting . Director Simpso n said we ha ve n't initiat ed anyt hing like that. We ta lked , at one time, about trying to do a recognitio n ce remon y, like at the busi ne ss appreciation breakfa st, but it is h.nrd 10 :ecogn ize or sing le out one business. Council Member Grazulis asked about residentia l because some times so me of them go from really ratty to really nice. Director Si mpson agreed that we have so me really grea t suc cess stories . I would be happy to suppon that. he sa id . Council Member Grazulis said ma ybe the y need to be nominated by other resi dent s, so Co mmunity Deve lopment doesn't have to do all th e leg work. Perhaps , she sa id , some thin g co uld be impleme nted in the future . Mayor Bradsha w asked Director Simpson ifhc co uld help Counci l with the process . Mr . Simpso n said they could definite ly help with that. Co uncil Member Grazulis said okay. that is fin e. 6. Sh e said when 1 was at the Teenage Drinkin g Task Force the other dny, wilh Ol ga Wolosyn and Gary Sears , we found out we have a new conta ct at the Denver Pos t. She said Marl ys Duran is no longer there. • • • • • • Englewood Ci 1y Co uncil March 4, lOOl Page 17 Cily Mana ge r Sears no1ed 1hat Ms . Duran is actually with the News . Ginny McKibben is the one that is gone. Ms . Grazuli s said she was sorry, that she knew that , 1ha1 ii is Ms . McKibben 1h111 is gone. Council Member GrJzulis advised 1ha1 the Teenage Drinking Task Force meeting s are co ming along nicely . 7. She 0,skcd when the next CenleMial meeting would be held . Assistant City Manager Flaherty said 1hn1 actu:ill y they hnvcn't had a mee ting oft!,e ad hoc comminee yet We 11re looking 111 the week of March 17111 for that first mee1ing , he sa id , and we will gel Co uncil that information as soo n as we c:in . We are trying to fint1li ze that this week. inlemall y, he said. Ms . Grazut:s thanked Mr. Flaheny and noted that when she called about it they though! th1u the mee ting hod actually been he ld . 8. She sa id tha1 when she went to that las t Code Enfo rcement Advisory Commillee meeting they had a five min ute video with Ernie Bjorkman in the role of the code enforcement officer. It was absolutely hilarious and reall y wonh seei ng , she said. I wou ld like Council to see that. M11 yor Bradshaw suggested that be sc heduled for 11 Study Session . City Manager Sr.ors said it is only about two minutes long, so they cou ld sc hedule that fo r March I SUI . Ms . Grazulis co mmented that one of the things that happens is tbal he write s out a fine for a derelict vehicle with trash in the back of it and he is kind of giggling under his breath about Englewood . That is why, she said , I have a proble m if we ca n'1 enforce that SI00.00 fee . I think if we enforced that fee then people wouldn't wane to pay it and so thal wou ld give them 1he incentive to have the vehicle hnuled 3.way. She feh that might get rid ofa few of those cars like that. 13. Ci l'y Manager's Report (a) City Manager Scars ad vised tha11hc y started work on Ge neral Iron Works a.nd there wa s a flyer !hat went ou1 10 the ne ighborhood. I have a copy of our penni1 for grading and work on 1he site if anyone is in1ercsted in taking a look at it, he said. II is a pre1ty 1horough docume nt and ii pu ts the responsibiliry on RTO to enforce drainage requirements and monitor th e airborne type s of particles and wha:ever. If you are interes ted in the details yo u ca n lake a look at thlll . I think it is probabl y helpful in case you receive a telephone call from a citizen. Rick Kahm, in panicular, and Ken Ross 11rc working very closely with them on this . They arc responsible for the clean-up and extraction of the metal s and things lik e 1ha1. II docs appear 1ha1 they will be going down Galapago and they wi ll no1 be going through lhc Wins low property :u this poin 1 in lime . Mayor Bradsh:i.w pointed out that they arc remo ving a lot of the metal by rail , otherwise that would have doubled the tnps coming off that site . Ci ty Manager Sears said that is right . Ma yor Bradshaw said she wished th ey cou ld have used Winslow . Mr . Sears advised that Ken Ross and Rick Kahm were present if Council had any questi ons . He said we will co ntinue to monitor it and work with them on each of the issues that come up. but 1hey arc in th e process of demoliti on right no w. (b) Ci 1y Manager Scars advised that lhi s afternoon we recei ved a transmission from !he Littleton City Manager's office . It was 11 lener signed by !heir mayor in opposition 10 Se n111c Bill 2-11. Whi ch has an ame ndment in there by Sena tor Te ck whi ch relates to elimimuion of enforce men t by loca l governmen t of mo1or carrier safety regulations . We have raised this issue al Tri-Citi es meetings many Englewood Cl 1y Cou ncil M.rch 4, 2002 P•ge 18 1imes, he soid, and ii is a major is sue for linlelon, but also fo r us . I kn ow Director Olso n has bee n invo lved wit h them and he is just amazed, from the low e nforceme nt viewpoint, that they arc proposing to take loca l law enforceme nt away. Ma yo r Bradshaw sa id I th ink we need to have a letter drafted. Mr. Sears sa id we could draft a similar le tter in opposition and send tha1 off to them ri ght away. Ma yor Bradshaw oskc d if !hat was 1he consens us of Co uncil. She noted lhal we hove wo rked really ba rd to try to keep dangerous trucks off of Santa Fe, now , wit h this amendment the y wo uld be saying that wc c.m't do it. Director Olso n sai:! this must ha ve j ust come up , bec ause I just attended a legislative committe e meeti ng wi th the chiefs r,( police the othe r day and this was no 1 even disc ussed. Mayor Bradshaw advised that it j ust come up . Mr . Olso n said it mu st have be e n loday or Frida y. As it was the conse ns us of Council to se nd the letter, City Ma nager Scars advised that they wo uld prepare the letter tomorrow and se nd it off to Se nator Teck. (c) City Manager Sca rs advised that we received a letter toda y fro m Kutak Rock, our bo nd co uns e l, and th ey want 10 know ifwe are plann ing 10 partic ipat e in the Mayor 's Cauc us Single Family Mongage Program. As we understand the directi on fro m th e Council , he said. it is tha t we are not to proceed with them. as of February 28 111, whic h was !heir deadline. We have some oth er a hcmatives, including CHAF A and some other things, that we can bring ba ck to the Council. But I guess what I wo uld hkc 10 know, he said. is if it is the final decisio n tha1 Council wi ll not be panicipa1ing wi th th em, so we can tell our bond co unsel 1hat th ose funds wo n 't be transferred over, Ma yor Bradshaw said I thought that was bec:iuse we have o ur own all ocation this yea r. Co uncil Member Garren said I think tha l was the conse nsu s of the group, because the q uestion we were asked. spec ifi r.a ll y. is if we wanted 10 do anything b y February 28d! and the answer was no. City Manager Sears and Ma yor Brads haw agreed. Beca use, Ma yor Bradshaw said. we ha ve our own a ll ocation this year. Cou ncil Member Garren asked C ity Manager Sears ifhe was just looking fo r reinforcement of that deci sion. Chy Manager Sears said 1hat is ac tuall y right. reinforcement before we terminate thll. Mayo r Bradshaw asked if that was Co unci l's co nse nsus . Counci l indicated ii wa s. Council Member Moore as ked if the lener reglrdi ng Sena te Bill 02 -11 Y.'3.S just going 10 be sent to Senator Teck or if it would be sent to our represe ntat ive s. Ci ty Manager Sears said we absolutel y should. We co uld se nd it 10 Je nn ifer Vei ga ond Se nator Dyer, he said . Mayor Br3dshaw 3greed and thanked Cou ncil \4cmber Moore fo r his suggestion. 14 . City A11orney's Report Cit y Anomc y Brotzman did not have an y matters 10 bring before Cou nci l. • • • • • Eng lewood City Council March 4, 2002 Page 19 City Manager Sears advised that severa l of us wiU be in Washington, D.C. next week. He thanked Council for the opponunity. City Manager Sears advised that Diana DcGcnc was mo re than plc11Scd about what happened today. She expressed that to me, he said, and asked that I thank Council on her behalf, for putting it together. 15 . Adjournmen t The meeting adjoumed at 8:39 p.m.