HomeMy WebLinkAbout2002-07-15 (Regular) Meeting Minutes• ENGLEWOOD CITY COUNCIL
ENGLEWOOD, ARAPAHOE COUNTY, COLORADO
Regular Session
July 15, 2002
I. Call to Order
The rcgul3r meeling of the Englewood Ci 1y Council was ca ll ed to order by Mayor Bradshaw at 7:47 p.m
2. Invocation
The invocation was given by Council Member Nabholz .
3. Pledge of Allegiance
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Mayo r Bradshaw .
4. Roll Call
Prese nt :
Abse nt:
Co uncil Members Nabholz, Moore, Grazu lis , Garren , Wolosyn ,
Bradshaw
Council Member Yurchick
A quorum was present.
5. Minutes
Also present: Acting City Manager Flaherty
City Anomey Brotzman
City Cle rk Ellis
Director Fooda, Utilities
Direclor Gryglcwic z, Finance and Administrative Services
Senior Planner Graham, Communit y Development
Direc tor Long , Library
(a) COUNCIL MEMBER GRAZULIS MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO
APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF JULY I, 2002 .
Ayes: Council Members Moore, Garrett, Grazulis, Bradshaw
Nays : None
Absta in : Council Members Na bholz, Wolosyn
Absent : Council Member Yurchick
Motion c;ini cd.
(b) COUNCIL MEMBER GRAZULIS MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO
APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF JULY 8, 2002.
Ayes : Council Members Moore , Garren, Wolosyn. Grazulis, Bradshaw
Nays: None
Abstain: Co uncil Member Nabholz
Absent: Co uncil Member Yurchick
Motion carried .
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6. Scheduled Vlsilors
(a) (Clerk's note : Sec page 4.)
7. Un,c heduled Visitors
(a) Roger Brown , 4260 South Grant Street, President of 1hc Eng lewood Hi stori ca l Society,
said he wanted to read from 1hc minutes of1he Historical Society and lhe City Council. On August 2, 200 1,
he said , we discu ssed the Skerritt House and Mike Flaherty and Gary Scars talked about the estimated cost
of stabilization and reha .... ilitation of the Skerritt House . They talked about grant money that was there and
the mone y the City has alread y received at this point. There was also talk about what was actually going to
be done to the Skcrritt House with thal mone y. The one quote that was in here was "once thi s money ha s
been spent , the decision has bee n effec tively made not to demolish th is house ," We were told abou1 the
research into the building , and its history, and the hi story of Tom Skcrritt and discussed the merits of
moving, demolishing or saving the house. Basically, he noted, we had a motion at thlll point to suppon the
expenditure of the grant monies to stabilize the building and the motion was unanimously approved . On
Augu st 6th , our current vice president addressed Counci l as an unschedu led visitor and said, "we, as the
board of the Historical Society, endorse the expenditure of the City and State money to stabilize the Tom
Skcrritt property. As custodians of Englewood history, he said, we view this as a prudcnl and desirable
action ." The reason I bring thi s up is because last Tuesday we had our board of directors meeting again.
Instead of passing a new motion , basically restating these same things , we decided to rcall1rm our
commitment . We suppon the expenditure of these grant monies for the stabi lization of1he Skcrritt House .
he said, we do nol suppon a de cision to demolish. He asked if there were any questions . There were none .
He thanked Council.
Mayor Bradshaw thanked Mr . Brown.
(b) Cliff Young , ii teacher in Englewood for 40 years and now living at 3120 West 39 th
Avenue in Den ver, noted that in 1999 the Eng lewood City Counci l purchased 1hc home of the father of
Englewood ... the Skerrin House . We were elated because we thought we had dodged ha ving a realtor
devclop -:r gel a hold ofth(• property and who knows what would happen to it then . I would like to address
some of the points here, he saiJ. You have a lett er from Mark Wo lfe, Director of the Slate His1orici1l Fund,
he said, and here arc some highlights . The decision was based on cost, lhBt we couldn't afford to redo the
Skerrin Hou se. I guess, from 1hc hi~lorical perspective , we ask what 's the cost of preserving Englewood's
history'! The building is architectura ll y significant and 1hat is from Mark Wolre . He said yes it is . The
director ha s said that his historical society has put together a million dollars for over 2000 projects and he
said the Skerritt Hou se in Englewood fits cxac1ly what they are looking for. So there arc some funds
available above the 80,000 stabilization . We are on the local regi ster and he says that au1omatically puts us
on the S1atc register . Mr. Young slated we can also get funds through the Depamncnt of Local Affairs . So
J think we can exhau st a l01 of difTi.:rent ways 10 keep the burden of re structuring this property off of City
Co\lncil and the: ci tizens of Englewood . Mr. Young sta 1cd we fee l pretty sad about demolishing the first
primary hom e in Englewood because of some lead paint and water breakage. It looks as though . when we
talk with Mark Wolfe , that the water damage is mostly cosmetic . So , he said , I wou ld like you ro lake this
into consideration and maybe we need 10 revi si t this and sec what we can do . ljust don 't know how much
it will be rea ., if that stru cture is marked with II plaque . Some things that I would consider, as a teac her , is
th.it we don·1 know how that co uld be used ri ght now, my sight is not that clear . There arc vinual tours thal
can be done with com puters and things , th ere are things that can be done , but we don't really have the
technolog y now . Give those people a chance . fifteen or r.vcnty years from now, 10 be creative . I am
hoping that we will have the fo resight to be creative and hold off for a little while. He asked if there were
any questions. There were none . He thanked Council.
Mayor Bradshaw thanked Mr . Young .
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Ma yo r Bradshaw apologized to Mr. Brewer for making him wait. I am going to ha ve Dia ne Wray speak
and then we will get to yo u, she said.
(c) Diane Wray, 30 58 South Cornell Ci rcle , said that as we a ll know the ce nt ennial of
Englewood is comi ng up next yea r. She s1::ited tha t th e centenninl should not be ce lebra1ed b y the
demoli1i on of 1hc home of our fou nde r. It makes a mockery of :m y kind of ce ntennial celebration 1hat could
take pl ace in o ur city. As a citizen and as a membe r of the Englewood Historica l Society, she sa id , I wou ld
like 10 inquire into the process . From everyone I have ta lked to. we have bee n so me what broadsided by
thi s decisio n. I wo ul d like 10 know the docume nt s that served as the basis for yo ur demolition decisio n. I
wou ld like 10 hear desc ribed the pub li c process that sup poned this decision. I wo uld like to know the status
of yo ur plans fo r demolition and what 1he sc hed ule fo r yo ur plan is . As part of 1he documents that serve as
the basis for the de molitio n. what are 1he potential sources of funds that we have? I understand th 111 we
already have State Hi storical Fund monies, grant funds from Ara pahoe Coun ty and ins urance mo ne y. ln
othe r words, she said, we already ha ve qui1e a body of doll ars that are setting there that c:in be used. And
cenainly we ca n envisio n a lot of other publ ic sowces, as we ll as co nsi deratio n of pro bona services from
th e communi ty. So, fi rst I wo uld like 10 ask all of those question s and I would like to say tha t the Historical
Society, and the people in the c ity thal arc interested in thi s, wou ld like to understand this whole process
before any demo liti on takes place . Seco ndl y, I wo uld lik e to say th at I 1hink the ce nte nni al re prese nts an
occasion fo r us to take stoc k o f1h e buildings that compri se o ur ci ty. The redevelo pme nt projects, 1hc bi g
ones ... Ci nderclla City a nd the fou.,dry project ... are we ll in hand. The y arc movi ng forward. And, she
poi nted o ut. if we are going to look to the future , beyo nd our ce nt e nnial , and look at the opportu ni ties that
we have to inv est in o ur comm unity. thllt investment is go ing to tllke place in our homes and in o ur small
commercial businesses and r:tail strips. Wha t I would recommend is that we use th e occasi on of the
centennia l 10 create an his to ri c survey of the building stock in our community. That as (.'an of thi s
document, we create a ten-ye ar plan . O nce we have identified our impona nt historic b uil dings, we can
look at where we need to encourage growth. Where do we wa nt our fund s to go 10 help our busi ness
people and o ur homeowners'! Or. where is n ·1 growth wanted? Where do we want 10 maintain a nd where
do we have quality of life now? She o pine d tha t we need to work on mainta ining it, not cha nging it . These
are the kinds of de c isions and the kind of forward -l ooking th ing s, she sa id , that we ca n understand when we
comp lete a n historic arc hitec tural s·Jrvey of our commun ity. Ms. Wra y st.i.ted 1hat a n historic preservatio n
conserves .i.n imponant pan of th e p la nnin g that 's go ing to nee d 10 s1;:,,n taking place in Englewood. She
noted r-.-layor Bradshaw had t;:,,l ked :i.bout :i building awa rd prog ram. Awards based on nl3int en;:,,n ce are
divi s ive. as we saw. We heard all kinds of differem tes timo ny abou t how making the awards on th e basis
of the co ndi1ion of a b uilding rea ll y sc i off :i lot of fires , on a lot of diffe re nt levels. But, if we would take a
look a1 th at who le program and co nsider an a w:i.rd based on th e hi storic va lue of 1he building to the
community, we could ha ve a program. compl1!1ely vo lun tary, where the b uild ing owners arc recognized fo r
!h e his toric contributio n that their pro pi:n ies make. And just this process of recog nition, I think, will also
enco ura ge 1hc development of under-mainlained propcnies . A s ummary of the E nglewood Hi storical
Socie ty 's previous book could be uni te d in to a ce nt enni:i l his tory of th e City of Englewood . Usi ng th e
s ummary from the previous vo lume the Hi storical Society cre ated could prove as the heading fo r this
survey and we wo ul d be happ y to c reate a subcomminec . I undersrn nd, she sa id , that there is al ready an
historic prese r.•ario n person on staff with the City. worki ng 30 hours. that coul d poss ibl y be devo1ed to
some aspects of it. She advised that th e Englewood His torica l Society wou ld be happ y to take a leadmbip
position in pu ning thi s toge the r. I think th ere a.re pl e nty of ways !hat private donors and local business es
co ul d be e ncouraged to contribu1e funds to the printing of a projec1 like this, as is norma l wit h these kinds
of ce ntennial books that celebrate the history. So please. she said, I th ink that th e Skenin House should be
sav..:d . If th e City is inc:i.pable of handling it themselves. then we shou ld look at so me a lt e rn ative types of
ownersh ip or use fo r it. Worst-case sce n:i.rio, th is house should be boarded up and ware hou sed. She
ma intained that it is invaluable to thi s community and once ii is lo st, it is go ne forever . This house should
be made the cen1e rp iece of our ce ntennia l events :ind plans, ~he said. The centennia l should not
commemorate the loss of thi s important structure . She thanked Co uncil.
Ms. \Vra y said she wa s ove r there looking :it !he property. I thought I wo uld point out that we do want to
mnk e s ure that the landscaping on th e side is not lost Th(.'-l: are some very hand some and mature shru bs,
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lilacs nnd 1rces 1hat probab ly relo te 10 the hi storic nature of the prop erty. And if there isn't wa1 er ove r
th ere , she said . we should at kast make sure th at th e landsca ping isn 't lost. Thal repres ent s a valuable pan
of tliat reso urce .
Ma yor Brad shaw 1honked Mr. Brewer fo r hi s pa 1ienc e and offered her apology.
6. Schedu led Visitors
(n) Mike Bre we r. repre se ntin g th e En glewood r-.fasonic Lod ge, 35 00 So uth Sherman Stree t,
sa id th at fo r thos e of you who are not nwar: of who we are , we are a chari1able organ iza tion with education
as our main charit y. TI1e Englewood I ~~ jge ha s been a steady pr ese nce in the Engl ewood co mmuni ty sinc e
1926 . In the fa st coup le of years, he s=a 1d, th e Lod ge has looked at beco min g more acti ve in th e community,
with dire ct im·o lve ment and help in the Eng lewood sc hool.;. In co n1a ctin g th e sc hools a co up le of years
ago , we asked them what we co uld do . Basicall y, Melan ie Dre ss man ofM:1dd ox Elemen tary said we ha ve
a tremend ous need in Englewood to help the underpri vi leged ki ds who c:1 nno1 afford to bu y th ei r own
sc hoo l suppli es . As a parent , I wa s ::!Stound ed that 40% or more of the kids in the Englewood elementary
sc hoo ls didn 't ho ve pen ci ls and pap er. The Lodge put to geth er on internal pro gram to help rai se funds fo r
that and the fir st yco r we were able l'J suppl y Maddo x Elementary underprivil ege d kids with all of their
sc hool supp li ts . La st ye ar we suppli ed all of th e underprivil eged kids in the Englewood element:uy sc hools
wi th their sc hoo l suppl ies . We will do that again thi s yea r. And th en we asked them what can we do now .
It wa s broug ht to my anen1ion thnt th e sc hool libraries were built in the l 950's and the books haven 't bee n
rep la ce d si nce . So, he sa id , we wond ered what we co uld do 10 rai se mone y to put new books in the se
librarie s. Th e idea for a go lftoumamenl came out of thal . I am here toni ght to ask for 3 co upl e of things .
One, the Englewoo d Munici pal Golf Co urse, .1 s fa r .1s 1 kn ow, belongs 10 th e City of Engl ewood. We have
made re serv:uions on Augus1 I 7V! fo r 25 fou rso mes to pla y rounds of golf, a putting co ntes t, a hole in
one ... that type of situ ati on. If we co uld get help from the City of En glewood to cover the co sts of the go lf
cou rse. 1hat wou ld help us tremendously, wi th 1he procee ds go in g 10 tl1 e En glewood elementary sc ho ol
lib rarie s. Seco ndl y, I would cha ll enge the Ci ty Co uncil 10 put toget her a tea m 10 pl :?y in that tourn ament.
We are currently struggling 10 ge t enou gh pla yers 10 mak e thi s happen and we co uld use any help we can
get. We are donatin g all of ou r time and resources to make thi s hap pen, he sa id. and an y help we co uld ge t
fr om th e City an d the Ci ty Co uncil wo uld be de epl y apprec iated . He asked if there were any que sti ons . ln
response to Mayo r Bra dshaw, Mr. Brewer i!.dvised that August 17V! is a Sa turd ay .
rvli!.yo r Bradshaw asked if hc wa nted Co uncil 10 defra y the costs of th e go lf course. Mr. Brewer said if that
is in yo ur powe r, that wo u':l be gre at.
Mr. llrewcr so id I believe 1he greens fees are about $50.00 a perso n and we are cha rgi ng $75.00, $300 .00
fo r a fo urso me . The profit margin, therefore. is very thin . We are bu yi ng in suran ce polic ies to cover the
hole in one . th e idea being to give awa y a new ca r in the puttin g co nte st...th ese types of thin gs. He noted
we arc strugg lin g 10 make those quotas . This 1s the first ye ar we ha ve put th is on and , wi th an y charitn ble
eve nt , there is a struggl e that first year to mak e it happ en. If we coul d have any redu ction in fe es fo r the
gre ens fee s, he said, or donations along th at line, it wo uld help us . Tha t, basica ll y, wou ld ma ke it eas ier for
us 10 make the money to pay the insurance poli cies an d give more proceeds to th e libra ry fund to add more
boo ks.
Ma yor Brad shaw ad vised Mr. Brewer th at Co un cil wo ul d take it unde r advi se ment a nd get back to him
Mr. Drewer thanked Co uncil.
Ma yo r Bradsh aw thanked Mr . Brewe r fo r all th ei r services to our kids .
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There we re no co mmunication s, proc l:imations or appoinlm ems.
9 . Public Heorlng
No public he:iring was scheduled b~fore Co unc il.
10 . Consent Agenda
COUNCIL MEMBER GARRETT MOVED. AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO APPROVE
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 10 (a) (I), 10 (bJ (I), (ii), (iii) and (Iv) and 10 (c) (I).
{a) Approval of Ordinan ces on First Reading
(i) COUN CIL BIL L 0 . 35, INT RODUCED BY COUNC IL MEMBER
GARRETT
A BILL FOR AN ORD INANCE AUTHORIZING AN "AGREEME T FOR TEMPORARY LEASE
AND/OR RE-DIVERSION OF ilEUSABLE RETI JRN FLOWS OF WATER" BETWEEN
CENTENN IAL IV ATER AND SANITATION DISTRI CT AND THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD ,
COLORADO .
(b) Approval ofOrd inanc !:s on Second Reading
(i) ORDINANCE NO . 33, SERIES OF 2002 (COUNC IL BILL NO . 31
INTRODUCED BY COUNC IL MEMBER GARRETT)
AN ORDINANCE AMEND ING TITLE 12, CHA PTER 2, SECT ION 7, SUBSECTIONS A AND B, OF
THE ENGLEWOOD MUNICIPAL CODE 2000 . PERT AI, ING TO LIMITATIONS ON INDUSTRIAL
DISCHARGES
(ii) ORDINANCE NO . 34, SERIES OF 2002 (COUNCIL BILL NO . 32,
INTRODUCED BY COUN CIL MEMBER GRAZULIS)
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 6. CHAPTER I, SECTION 4, AND TITLE 8,
CHAPTER 2E . SECTION 2, OF TH E ENGLEWOOD MUNICIPAL CO DE 2000 PERTAINING TO
CHAR CO AL . GAS FUELED .,ND OTHER OPE N FLAME BARB ECUE GRILLS AND COOKING
DEVICES IN BUILDINGS THAl HO USE 3 OR MORE FAI.IIILY UNITS AND THAT ARE TWO OR
MORE STORIES IN HEIGHT .
(ih) ORD INANCE NO . 35, SERIES OF 2002 (COUNCIL BILL 0 . 33,
INT ROD UCE D BY ~O CIL MEMBER GRAZULIS )
AN ORD INANCE AMENDING TITLE I. ,:HAPTER 4, SECTION I. SUBSECTION B, OF THE
ENG LEWOOD MUNICIPAL CODE 2000. PERTAINING TO GENERAL PENALTY -NO JAIL
SEN1 ENCE FOR JUVENILES .
(iv) ORDINANCE NO . 36 , SERIES OF 2002 (COUNC IL BILL NO . 34 ,
INTRODUCED BY COUN CIL MEMB ER GARRETT)
AN ORDIN .\NCE AUTHORIZING AN EASEM ENT AGREEME . T BEnVEEN THE REGION AL
TRANSPORTATION DISTRICT (RTD ) AND THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD , COLORADO WHI CH
PERT AIN, -.-o THE CONSTRUCT ION OF THE RTD MAINTENANCE FACILITY ON THE FORMER
GENERAL IRCl :-1 WO RKS SITE .
(c) Rcso \u1i o11 s and Mo11 ons
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(i) SEWER TAP AG REEME NT FROM DENMAR LLC, ALSO KNOWN AS
PARK.RID GE '.l>IARRIDA .
Vo te resu lt s:
Ayes :
Noys:
Absent:
Motion ca rried .
11. Regular Agenda
Co uncil Members Nab hol z. Moore , Gnrrctt, Wolosy,,. Graz ulis,
Br i:dshaw
Nore
Co uncil Member Yurchick
(a) Approva l of Ordir.:i11ces on First Reading
There were no addi tional items submi 11ect. for approval on first readin g. (See Agenda ll em 10 -Consent
Agendn .)
(b) Appro v11 I of Ordinances on_Second Reading
There were no addit ional m:ms subm.incd for approval on seco nd re adi ng. (See Agenda ll em 10 -Consen t
Agenda .)
(c) Resolu tio ns and Mouons
(i) Directo r Gryg lewi cz pre se nted a recommendatio n from the Finance and
Ac!mi ni str:11i vc Services Oep:inmcnt to adop t a re so lut ion extending the sole so urc e contra ct wi th Nevc's
Unifonns for unifonn supp li es fo r the years 2003, 2004 and 2005 . They are the on ly ve ndor we have
found, he said. that c:in provide all of the emergency and non-emergency uniforms that the City uses.
Mayor Bradshaw t1skeJ if there we re any questions. There were none .
COUNC IL MEMBER WOLO SYN MO VE D, AND IT WAS SECO NDED , TO APPROVE AGEN DA
IT EM 11 (e) (I)· RESOLlITI O ',·n . 76, SE RIES OF 2002.
RESOLUT IO NO . 76, SERI E~ u1 .u02
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE EXTE~ISION OF A UNIFORM SUPPLY CONTRACT
INSTEAD OF THE COMPETITIVE BID PROClSS UNDE R SECTION 116 (b) OF THE HOME RULE
CH .~RTER AND SECTION 4-1-3 OF THE ENGLEWOOD MUNl CI PAL CODE 2000 .
Vote re sult s:
Ayes :
Nays:
Abs1ain:
Ab sent:
Motion ..:arried .
Cou nci : Members Mot':c:, Garrett. \Vo losyn , Grazulis, Bradshaw
Non..-:
Coun cil Membe r Nabho lz
Co un ci l Member Yurc hick
Coun cil Member Nabholz exp lamcd that she abstai ned from voting because she is rclt1ted to the Nevc·s and
felt 11 would be a co nfli c1 of in 1cre s1.
Ma yor Bradshaw 1hankcd Ms . Nabholz for her cxplt1nation ,
(ii) Senior Planner Grnha m presente d a re commcndt1 tion from the Co mmun ity
De\·clopmcn1 Department to adopt II re solution authorizing assignme 1.t of Englewood's 2002 Private •
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Activity Bond C~p All oc3tio n to the Co lorado Housi ng and Finan ce Authority . This i1em. he explnined, is
a follow•u p 10 lh ! February 11 111 Co uncil Study Session where represe nta tive s of the Co lorado Housing and
Finance Au1ho·,1ty prese nted a range of programs , lhat they were able 10 offer, with benefits for Englewood
residents and businesses. We nlso have provided infonnation, in the pa:;t, on Metro Mayors ' Caucus
programs , whic h we re an ahcm111ivc use for the bond ca p. Both of progra ms, the Mr • a Mayors' program
and the CHFA program, ha ve prov; .. ed housin g fi nancing . I think Co uncil 's direction, at the time of the
February meeting, was to wo rk with CHFA ifan alternative use of the bond cap didn 't co me forward by the
Jul y meeting. Mr. Graham stated that the bond cap reve rts to the State in September1 if no action is taken.
So , he said. thi s action toni ght , of passing this resolution, wou ld reserve th e bond ca p for use in Englewood
to provide home ownershi p programs .
Ma yo r Bradshaw asked iflt"re were any questions . There we re none .
COUNCIL MEMBER WOLOSYN MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO APPROVE AGENDA
ITEM 11 (c) (II)-RESOLUTIO N NO. 77, SERIES OF 2002 .
RF.SOLUTION NO . 77, SERIES OF 2002
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ASS IGNME NT TO THE COLORAD O HOUSING AND FINANCE
AUTHORITY OF A PRI VATE ACTIVITY BOND AL LOCATION OF TH E CITY OF ENGLEWOOD,
ARAPAHOE COUNTY, CO LORADO PURSUANT TO THE COLORADO PRIVATE ACTIVITY
BOND CEILING ALLOCATION ACT .
Vote results :
Ayes:
Nays:
Absent :
Mo1ion carried .
t 2. General Discussion
(a) Ma yds Choic e
Co uncil Members Nobholz, Moore, Gorren, Wolosyn, Gruzulis ,
Bradshaw
None
C".>uncil Membe r Yurchick
(i} ~ fayor Bra ds haw said I included a draft re soluti on, which has since been
revised , in your packet on ~n•! RTO ball ot measure . She asked if Mr. Flaheny would speak on that.
Ac tin g City Manager Fli,herty said what I think the Mayors ' Caucus i! requ es tin g, is for the municipa lit ies
in the RTD distri ct to pn.pare rcs cl:..tions to suppon the RTD ball ot me.a.sure . However, I believe this
resolut ion is still in process . Mayor Bradshaw said yes it is . Mr. Flahe.l'ty advised that when it is
co mplet ed , and me ets th e approval of the Mayors ' Caucu s, 1hcn we will bring it back to Counc il .
Mayor Bradshaw noted it is just a he ads up , for Council'! informa tion.
(ii) Ma yor Bradshaw said she wa nted to bt \.1,~ an other item up to staff. Remembe r,
she sa id, in 1998 we changed the definirion ofa family , regarding :},e .oe opl e who could inhabit a building .
And I reme mber , she said, that Counc il Member Waggoner said th :S L i:oing to caus e all kinds or
prob lems . We ll, I hate 10 admit 1ha1 Kell s Waggone r wos right l•·.1 t think he was on !his point I jusl
wonder if the new family definitio n bun code e!Uorcemcnt and zo ning enforcemc!'1l, because I think you
can h.:lve six unrelated people living in a houschold ... oreight ... and the y each drive" car, tha1 is six to eight
c:irs . I wou ld li::e an answer back from Community Development , she said, on the ac :ual wo rding of that
and the rami fli :ations or peop le ha vi ng extra cars . Because, my concern is that I thin1• everybody in
Engle wood, ac oue poi nl, was allowed two on-street parking places. Well now peop ': have motor home s.
boats , rccre:ui vn vehicles ... an y number of other things. We en d up having parking : ,ts all up and down
our s1re~ts . And , she noted, when you come around a comer your vis\ , can be leni lly impaired and I
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1hink i1 puls our kids :u risk . The oth er thing is thin I think if people have 11 lot of vehicles, then they should
probabl y be :able 10 sc reen 1hem from the fronl of th eir property ;:md not with the blue tarp . Thal, she
poin1cd out , is another pet peeve I have , 1hc blue 10.rp. They say they will cover ii , but why nol use a green
tarp '! An ywa y, that is a who le other issue . Bui I think , she said . 1hat might be related 10 so me of ou r
parking issues 100, tha1 it might go bo.ck 10 the family definition thal we passed and I would li ke 10 have us
re visit 1h01 . Mayor Bradshaw asked if there were any questions on thu1 1 if that makes sense . 1 do rememb er
when we did that and, at the time , 11hough1 ii wo.s a good idea, but now I'm not sure ifit was. We can
o.hva ys change our mind. she no1ed .
(i ii) Mayor Bradshaw said the other issue she would lik e to brin g up is the Skcrrin
House. I don't know if Council is comfortab le talking about it at this point or not, she said.
Council Member GrllZuli s said I would like to put together a tour of the Skcrrin House with the Englewood
Hi stori cal Society. perhaps with someone from 1hc Colorado Historical Society and our City people . Then
we can walk through it together, di scuss it together and 1ake a look at it together. It is just my own personal
suggestio n, she said, that we tempor.tri ly put the dcmolishment of the Skcrrin House on hold to try to work
ou1 something . Perhaps we co uld have Ginn y Steele try to put together some more ideas of how to proc ure
this mone y 1hat seems 10 be floatin g around, but is not coming to stick at the Skerritt House. There is all
this talk about all this money, she sai d.
Mayor Bradshaw said there are promises ofa lot of money.
Ms . Grazuli s said that is right and if we could ge t so me of it slick to the Skcrrin House it would go a lot
further than sayi ng it is here , as it is not reall y here un1il we ge t it in our bands. Maybe that would help
convince us 10 go one way or the other, she said, and explore some of the pos sib ilities . And also, that
landscnping should probably be cared for .
Ma yo r Bradsha w sa id Ci ty properties should be maintained. there's no excuse.
Ms . Gra zulis agreed. She said these were just some of her ideas.
Cou ncil Member Wolosyn said I would lik e 10 say that th e issue is bigger than just 1hc rcs1oration of the
building . 1 Itl(an. it is a bigger responsibility than just a dollars thing . Historic preservation involve ...
education , she sai d, 1 would say -it is almost like :a museum building . I looked at some of the old
discuss ions , which addressed the fact 1h111 we could ncve1 use 1hc second flo or because of the narrow
s1aircasc!I and we would have to make the doors, on the first floor, wider. We could never, feasibl y, ha ve a
business there .:.nd I also don 't think the loca1ion lends itself lo even a non -proli1. There was a comment
tha1 it might hil ve made a really good living history form . She noted that that is a really big commitment to
make to a piece of property . That is really why we have been dragging our feet, because we kno w that it is
bi gge r than just fixing it aud I don't know that our government has the resources to be an historic
prcserv11 1ioni s1. It is hard for me to say that, bu11 have to say that She opined tha1 the idea of1aking a tour
is great. bul 1h111 we shou ld all Uilk logcther about 1his , because it is a big thing . I heard a thing on public
radio on Saturda y. on Colorado Maners , that Lakewood has their 20th Ce ntury Living History Museum,
which is a bunch of buildings they have been bu yi ng from throu ghout the Sta te, that the y arc making a
corruruum:111 to re store . I just don't know if that is one of ou r functions as a full se rv ice City . 1 think that
will ultimatel y be wha1 we , painfully, mu st decide. she said.
Mayor OrJdshaw said I want to know where the S600,000 .00 is going to come from with our current
budget sho nfa ll in thcCi ty. I lo ve these I Ith hour appeals, she said , that co me across e-mail and I'm sure
you all have copies of my terse response 10 th:11. My co ncern is where has Mr . Wolfe been and how come
all of a sudden he shows up Jul y 3rd and can quo1e everything and misquote some things . So , she said, as
far as I am concerned it 1s whate ver the Council wants to do . I thought we nude a very prudent and
thorough investi gation and we did mak e a decision . We did Bgrcc to save the archi tectural features and
other significant featu res. Now, what 1 hear expens sayi ng is that we got bad information . Is that true ?
Did we hire a co ntrac1or that 1hen goes out and tells other people that his recommendatio n isn't right '! 1
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mean !his is why it is so domn confusing 10 me , she said, I don '1 undcrs1and i1. J though! we made o
decision .
Council Member Garrell said I do lh ink 1hat we weighed a l01 of issue s that you rai se d and I can 1cll you
when we: wc:rc: first loo ki ng 31 it we were told 1hat 1hc building itse lf did not reall y hove an y historical
significance , other than the fact that so meone li ved th ere. That ii was a hodge -podge ofdiffc:rent things ond
we co uldn 't lell when different additions were put on :md no one could re111ly go back ond s11y wh111 the
original structure was . Th.it w.is the infomuuion we received and so this is different. I am concerne<l,
becau se we :1lso had some preservation issues, in jus1 even boarding it up , thill we had to get through and
!hat is one reason we were rushing to gel things done before winter sets in . If we ne ed 10 dela y, he sa id, my
rccommenda1i on is 1ha1 the delay be very shon . Whatever infonnation and input liuu yo u would like to
have, wi th the tour and whate ver, lets do that very qui ck ly. And then we will rec onve ne to sec if we need
10 rce valuale the situation. I mean, he said, I haven 't heard anything that would lc:ad me to wnnt to change
my mind . Mayor Br:idshaw said nor have I.
Ms . Wray, from the audience, asked to speak . Mayor Bradsha w ad vised her that the public speaking pan
of the meeting was over.
Co un cil Member Moore said he would just like to rci1 cratc that, on the financial side of it, the funds that are
mentioned in this leuer were not pre se nted 10 us . Our decision was based on what this is going to cos
versus whill is fair to our citizens. So agoin, he said, if the mone y is out th ere, we were not Rlll.d c oware of
it.
Co un cil Member Nabholz said, os Mr. Moore said , if the: money is oul there lets gel it together, lets ha ve
our tour quickly and see what we have . h was very difficult for me to say let s demolish that. So if there is
something out th ere, she said. that would be my last hope and prnyer ... you never know.
Ma yor Bradshaw said I would strongly sugges t that we get information from Rod L. Wheaton, who seems
to have a lot of answers and I would also suggest we gel some answers fro m Mark Wolfe , who suddenly is
very interested in what is going on here . I would also , she said, encourage the Englewood Histo rical
Socie 1y to get their ducks lined up. because the last time we bailed the Englewood His torical Society out , it
cos t us three hundred and some thousand dollars. I understand it is difficult . but by th e same token we
haven "t heard from any of you guys and th en all of a Sl!ddcn we make a decision, based on the information
we have, and then th ere is a sma ll uproar. So that would be my direction h> staff, she said .
Co uncil Member Wolosyn said I would also say that I am probably going 10 tak e inlo consideration sotnt
of the comments I heard tonigh1 about historic pre servation. Perhaps you c:m 't put all your resources into
what ma y not end up being th e most sig nificant
Ma yo r Bradsha w agreed . tn a lot of wa ys, she said, I c-•n tUO re concerned about our post office going away .
(b) Co uncil Members' Choice
{i) Coun cil Member Nab holz:
I. She: sai d she would like to say thank you to the police department for finally gelling involved with
Mr. Widgery and his co llection of ilcms . II took them four lrucks on a So1urdoy for Officer Medina and
so me young men 10 load that up , so I wa nt 10 thank them for that.
2. She said I spoke 10 the Jmp:1ct Team :1bout 3015 South Cherokee . II looks li ke a paint booth, it is
pan of an old house and ii has a lo ng bla ck, plastic section with a swamp cooler in the middle and then the
rest of it is like the back of an old house . So the impact team is very familiar with them, she said, but I
wo uld jus1 like a follow -up as 10 what is tak ing place there .
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3. She said th e Laund rom.:u at Logan and old Hampden. Soaps Up, is 11 haza rd . They have hanging
wires, the re were linlc kids hanging on 1he wires, and they have broke n was hers and drye rs 1hat ha ve been
pulled out. I don 't know whether Lan ce Smith needs to check on this one N 1101, she sa id , but this is 11
dangerous pi nce .
(ii) Cou ncil Member Moo re :
I. He sai d he needed to return 11 ca ll to the resident 1h11t li ves at 285 and Emerso n and h11d the
propeny in questio n. He r me ssage , he said , see med 10 indi cate that there has been some City ::action in
terms of ge tti ng ba ck 10 her. I would j ust like 10 know wha t tha1 is befo re I ca ll her ba ck. So . he said , if I
co uld find oul about th at that would be great.
2. He said he just wanted to address 1hc lener in Co un ci l's packet from LuAnn e Mickelson re garding
retiree health benefi ts. I think we had to deal with thi s issue ea rli er, he said . Before we had th is probl em.
where we co uldn 'I find a medica l provide r to cove r thi s gro up of people , wha t wa s the cost expect11 1io n for
1he emp loyee and for the City and what is that now, he ask ed.
Ma yo r Brads ha w asked ifhe wan ted th e cos t ex pectatio n whe n she reti red in 1995 . Counci l Member
Moo re said th e last yea r of coverage mi ght be represe nl ative .
And th en. M11yor Bra ds haw said . what their ex pec tati on was.
Co un cil Member Moore said he is trying to bett er understa nd why we backed off of providing coverage to
thi s group . I fee l like I mi ght be mi ssi ng something or forgetting a prior discus sion. but it looks like this is
a. gro up of people who made a de.;ision 10 re lire and once 1he y ii.TC in retirement, th e game is chan gin g,
Ma yo r Bra ds ha w said I :i.gree and not only that but we ha v;: the doc umen 1:i.tio n of what was handed ou t to
that group , :it that rimL', and I think there is a re sponsi bility there.
Co uncil Member Moore asked if we had :i.lread y made a decisio n, as a. Council, that we were accepting this
decision .
M11 yor Bradsha w sa id we talked about it as a Council.
Co un cil Member Moore asked wh at it wou ld tak e for us 10 revi sit thi s in more de ta il.
M:i.yor Bradshaw said you just have to ask .
Council Member Moo re said oka y, th en I am asking .
(iii) Coun cil Member Garrett :
I. He advised that last nig ht there was a conce n here. a wonderfu l co ncert put on by the Libra ry.
Thank yo u ve ry much, he said . I talked to Hank Long a littl e bi1 thi s :i.flcmoon abo ut so me possib le
publicity . It w:i.s not a rob ust cro wd . bu1 it was an enthusi as ti c cro wd . On 1be record. he said, I wo uld Ii.kc
to thank Mile High Co ffee . II was a wa rm evening and th ey brou ght over a whole basket full of wa ler for
the crowd an d it was free.
Ma yo r Bra dsttilw said th ere was no cha rge, th ey just had i1 there.
Counci l Member Ga1Te1t Sil.id yes , they just sat it there and said if yo u need wa ler. jwt take it. It was about
93 or 94 degrees whe n it started. so that V.'.15 very mucJ, ilppreciatcd by the crowd . It WilS a beautiful setting
an d just ve ry enjoyable . he said , so th ank s a lot.
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2. He said. as we oil know, our Parks and F.ccre:nion group is up for an 11ward. The y are one of four
finalis1s . They are seeki ng so meone fro m the Park~ and Rec rea tio n Co mmi ss ion and, al so, so meone fr om
Ci ty Co uncil 10 go to Tampa when the awa rd is Bnn o.i nced . I serve two rol es , he soid, so I would be
willing 10 go and I would ask if that would be ok.ly with the Co uncil fo r me to pursue that.
Ma yor Bradsh;iw sai d yes, ;:,,bso lutel y.
Council Member Garrett sttid when I ge l th e informntion on re gistrati o:1 and all dun kind of stuff I will be
back .
3. He said I re ce ive d a lcner, and I know at least one other Co unci l person who al so received u letter.
from a church celebrating 1heir 50th anniversary in Englewood. The y would like an appropriate recogni tion
of that. I don't kn ow whether this Co unci l wou ld have a problem or not have a problem in reco gnizing an
ins1itu1ion 1hat has been around for 50 years with a proc lamation of some so rt.
Mayor Bradshaw sai d I th ink we should .
4. He noled we have been pre se nte d a proposa l :ind he asked whether Cou nci l wou ld wa nt lo discuss
it this evening, as the Parks and Re creati on Co mmissio n will not ha ve the opportunity.
Ma yo r Bradsha w said I think we ne ed 10 deal wi 1h it lhen ,
Co ur.c il Membe r Ga rrett said I know that hislorically, si nce I have been on Council , what we ha ve done is
that we haven't really waived fees at the go lf cow·se.. bu t the City has taken certain sponsorships and
purchased a four so me or whatnot. We arc doing it this week with the Chamber and we al so have done it
with Keep Englewood Beautiful . Whether we wan t to se t that kind of precedent or not is up to Counci l, be
sai d, but I know we have done that in the past.
Mayor Bradshaw asked what Co uncil 's feelin g is on th ll t.
Co uncil Memb er Wol osyn said I th ink we need 10 look into the other sponsorships we ha ve and also what
kind s of sponso rships we ha ve . Do we have hole sponso rships and that sort c,f thin g that would help defray
cos ts? I think if we start se tt ing a preceden t, she sa id, it co uld ge t out of hand .
Mayor Bradshaw agreed, eve n though it is the Eng lewood lodge and the Englewood schoo ls.
Ms . \Volosyn said I don ·1 feel 1h111 I ca n speak fo r the Parks Departmen t. If Jerrell Black was here I wou ld
feel more comfortablt-. She no 1ed that it is an Enterpri se Fund .
Mayor Brad shaw asked if we co uld ge t an answer back from sUl ff on possible th ings that would work,
things that we could do and we co uld de ci de nex t Monda y, at Malley .
Actin g City Manager Flaheny sai d oka y.
Ma yo r Bradshaw advi sed that Counc il's Study Se ssion nex l Monday will be at the Malle y Ce nt er.
Co un cil Membe r Garrett as ked lh Bt Mr . Bre we r provide us with info rm:nion re gard ing the foursomes and
other information on other type s of things that peopl e sponso r.
(iv) Co un ci l Member Wolosyn:
I. She said she wou ld like 10 compliment the City on the David Taylor Co nce rt last week. I thoug ht
we had a wo nd erfu l turnout and I thought 1hat Amy Doc , and the rest of the :tafT, helped Da vid put on a
grea t show . 1 wa nt 10 urge everyone 10 come ou t, fo r what I hope wi ll be ano1;1er grea t show, this Sarurday.
It wi ll be Davi d Ta ylor agai n ... Up Close and Mu sica l and a li ghtin g show . It will also feature a vari ety of
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music , from classica l to the debut of a piece by a Colorado musi ciln named Gregory Walker, who teaches
on the Aurari11 Campus . So we will have surprises fo r all of us, she said .
2. She said she appreciates Stu Fonda fo r contin uin g 10 wo rk wi th the community . I hope we can use
this to leverage with Denver for a really great long-term solution .
Stu Fonda said I will be on the phone with them tomo rrow.
(v ) Council Member Gra zulis:
I. She said she regretfu ll y has to let Counci l know that she will not be here next Monday. I hnvc
been ca ll ed out or town with John for a family emergency.
2. She said I also heard that the firewo rk s were quite popular, considering there was not a whole lot
going on in the area . Half my family was here , as I was out of sta te then, al so . They said they tried to get
as close as they cou ld. and it wasn't very clos e, but they had a good time anyway.
3. She asked when the next Centennial meeting will be held .
Acting City Mannger Flaherty advised it will be held August 7~.
Mayor Bradshaw and Director Long advised that Legacy has a comminee meeting this Wednesday.
Acting City Manager Flaherty noted the Program Committee will meet on the 251h of July and Legacy is
this week .
Mayor Bradshaw said we will talk about the Skenin House at Legacy.
4. She said she still has her report coming from CML. I have been out of town a lot lately, but I will
ge 1 it 1ogether. One of the things that was mentioned was youth participation in different cities. We put
our yo uth on ce n.iin co mmissions , she nolcd . and then we just so n of stop there. O11:c:r cities go beyond
wi1h their youth and the y even have a position to sit on Council every single w--.-•• ·.11d they take it from
there and they lake it further into their schools . I thought we migbt want think about taking it beyond so me
of the commissions and taking it up to this level of government, she said, because they onl y get tu a certain
point and 1hen we stop .
Mayor Bradshaw said Susan Thornton shared with me that Linleton has a youth commission that deals with
all issues involving yo uth and they arc advisory to Counci l. Maybe that is the direction we should go,
rather than all of 1hcse liai sons . Mayor Bradshaw asked Acting City Manager Flaherty 10 get a hold of that
informntion from Susan Thornton . Mr. Flaherty said be would .
Coun cil Member Grazulis said that was just one of the things I learned by attending tho se meetings at
CML.
5. She ask ed if there is a po ssi bility of coming up with an olc.l historical name for the aquati c park.
perhaps a contest 10 name the new park . Since it rea ll y doesn't have a name other than the aquatic park at
Bel le view .
Ma yo r Bradshilw said . on Sa turda y, Olga Wolosyn . Doug Garrett, John Moore and I went to the Splash . If
you haven ·1 heard of it, the Splas h is loc a1cd up in Go lden and it is incredib le. She noted that ours will be
three times the size of that one .
Coun ci l Member Grazulis said she heard that 1he y had a fine time .
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Ma yo r Brad shaw said it was pretty exciting .. .it was great I was wondering about a naming contest for it,
because I love the idea that when someone asks where yo u are going :md you say the Sp la sh, people know
where that is.
6. She sa id 1his lasl Sunday the re was qui1e 11 10 do at Jason Park . II was the Ja !;on Park Socia l Club
gc 1-toge1her. I must say. there were a 101 of dogs and people there and 1 have ne ve r se en so many dogs
logcther, ge tt ing along so well . 1 counted approximatel y 70 dogs and twice that many peopl e. There we re
a lot of co nte sts and there was a good time ha d by one and all . II was ho!, but it was good .
Ma yor Bradshaw said she would lik e 10 thank the Parks Departmcm for their h:lp with that Dave Lee
showed up and Tom Munds eve n showed up and ii was on a Sunday. She thanked Mr . Munds. It was
really a good i:venl, ~he said .
7. She sa id I reall y want 10 make sure that the Englewood Historical Society is going 10 stick with
thi s and use c\'ery bit of innuence they might have 10 ge l some of the answers to the prob lems that we se em
to have come up with .
Council Member Nabholz said the wooden gate on Galapago , that the fire trucks are suppo sed to use to
come through . is Oopping back and fonh .
13. City Manager's Report
(a) Acting Cit y Manager Fla herty said we received a lener toda y from Mory White at
Swedish Hosp ilal and the y are meeting with the State Emergency Medical and Trauma Advisory Counci l
on the 25 :11 10 present their case on the Level I Trauma Ce nification thal they are requestin g. They are
asking 1he Ci1 y to provide rh.:m wi th a letter of su ppon. Pau letta Puncerelli will work on th :11 letter, he
said. assuming Co un cil directs me 10 have 1ha1 lett er prepared.
ivfayor Bradsh:iw said I think we need 10.
In re sponse 10 Council Member Garrett. Acting City Manager Flaheny advised that the meeting i!-on 1he
25 th , so we h11vc 10 ge l it 1here before then . We ca n cenainly have a letter in the packet, he said, that goes
out on Thursday.
Co un cil Me mber Gt.rrclt asked if it wo uld be more forcefu l to just have 1he Ma yor sig n ii or all of us .
think this is im po nan1, he said .
Ma yo r Brads h:iw said I think we should all sign it. Counc il concu rred .
Acting City Manager Ffaheny said we can make arrangements. after !he lell er is drafted and prepared. to
have Counci l members come in and sign.
Counci l Member Moore said when she visited us awhile back she said she would fo ll ow-up and let me
know a littl e bit abou 1 1he helicopter traffic .
~fayor Bradshaw said we talked to her about that , about the routes .
Council Membi:r Moore sa id I know we couldn'1 put anything forma l in place, but I am assuming Trauma I
• is going to in crease the heli co pter traffic .
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Council Member Garren said my rcco llc c1ion is 1ha1 she sai d ii is nol go ing 10 increase ii significantl y.
Tha t 1hcre wou ldn ·1 be thnt man y differences as it is a Trauma 2 already . That , he said, is how I rec all thal
she re spo nde d 10 your specific que stio n.
Ma yor Brads h11w stated the problem is that the y arc sup posed to follo w flighl pauems. Ba sica ll y, they arc
supposed 10 fo ll ow 285 into Swedish .
Co uncil Me mbe r Moore said I assume I am speakin g for the res idents in that area, that the helicopter traffic
is substant ia l and whe n th ey don't fl y over 285 it is very disturb ing . Thi s is an im ponant lhin g, but it
wo ul d be nice 10 ge t .i rccommitment to that.
Mayor Bradshaw sa id she though! a lett er from Council Membe r Moore, as that dis trict's representative ,
wo uld mean some thin g. You cou ld have Leigh Ann Hoflhi nes put one together for yo u. Mr. Moore said
that wo uld be great.
Mayor Bradshaw told Mr. Flaheny to go ahea d and ha ve th e letter prepared and then Co uncil will come by
and sig n it. Just let us kn ow when , she said .
Acting City Mana ger Flaherty said okay. that he wou ld ha ve Sue Bradshaw ad vise Co unci l when that letter
is prepared .
(b) Acting City Manage r Flaherty said he was adv ise d by the City of Littleton that the Tri-
Ci ties meeting, tentatively sc heduled for July 26th, has been postponed and it wi ll be held th e foll owi ng
Friday, August 2"" at 7:30 a.m. at the linleto n City Hall .
Mayor Bradshaw sa id I won't be there .
Mr. Flahcny asked if we wo uld have repre se ntatives .
Mayor Bradshaw said Jul ie Grazu lis and Olga Wo losyn will atte nd.
Mayor Bradshaw noled that City Manage r Se:us is in Euro pe on vacation with hi s famil y and Ac ting City
Manager Flaherty is doi ng 11.n excellent job.
14. Cily Allorncy's Reporl
Ci ty Atto rn ey Brotzman did not ha ve any matt ers to bring befo re Co un cil.
15. Adjo urnmcnl
RADSHA W MOVED TO ADJOURN. The meei ing adjourned at J :4~ 7.m.
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