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lcNGLEWOOD CITY COUNCIL
ENGLEWOOD . ARAPAHOE COUNTY, COLORADO
I. Call 10 Order
Reg ular Session
September J. 2002
The re gular mcclin g of th e Englewood City Co uncil was ca ll ed 10 orde r by Ma yor Brad shaw al 7:3 5 p.m.
2. ln voc:llio n
The i0\·oca 1ion was give n by Counci l Member Na bholz.
3. Pledge of All•:gi•nce
The Pl edge of All egi ance was led by Ma yo r Brad sha w.
4. Ro ll Call
Pre sent:
Ab se n,:
A quorum was prescnl.
Also prese nt:
5. Minutes
Co un cil Mcmben Nabholz, Moore , Gmzulis, Garren, Wo lo syn,
Yurchick. Brad shaw
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Cit y Ma nager Sears
City Attorne y Brotzman
Ass istant City Manager Flnherty
C i1y Clerk Elli s
Se ni or Planner l :mgo n. Cornmunity De ve lopmen t
Bu sine ss & Redevelopment Coo rdimuor Johnso n.
Co mmunity Developm ent
Dircc1 or Si 111pso n, Co mmunit y Devclopff._nt
Director Ol son. Safety Services
Director Fo nda, Utilities
(•) COUNCIL MEMBER NAllHO LZ MOVED , ANO IT WAS SECONDED, TO
APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEET ING OF AUGUST 19,
2002 .
Ayes:
No.ys :
Abstain :
Motio n co.med .
6. Sc hedull'd Visitors
Co un ci l Members Moore. Go.rrctt, Wolos yn, Yu rchkk, Brad sho.w
No ne
Co unci l Members Nabholz. Grazulis
(o.) And y McKea n. lnten,~i 1onal Libeny Dn y Coo rdinnlor, said j us1 out of curiosity ho w
man y of ~•ou know :i.bo ut Liben y Da { Ca n you kind of le t me know if you know about Liberty Dn y?
Ma yo r Bra dshaw advis ed 1hat Co uri.:il re ceived the infom1a 1ion m their pa ckets .
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Mr. \1cKcan sm tcd thal L1 bcny Do y is a 1m 11onnl cc lcbr:11i on of the Decla rati on of Ind ependen ce and 1hc
Co nsmution tlfthc nitcd Sta tes . It wns olli cioll y cs 1n blishcd by Co ngress. by joi111 reso lu1i on of th e
House llf Rcpre sc 111 01ivcs and 1hc Scncuc. in Oc tobe r of 2000 . What we are here 10 do toda y. he said. is to
sec 1fthL0 Ma yo r w..i ul d iss ue o proc lamatio n fo r Lib ert y Dn y in Englewood and 1fthc Ci 1y Co unci l would
iss ue a reso lu11011 endorsing L1b1my Da y. Als o. he s:ud . I am going to ask eac h one of yo u if yo u wo uld
vo lu111c cr at le:is t one hour of yo ur lime 10 go in10 a clas s here in Eng lewood, or an ywhere you wa nt , to go
tnlo 1he nmldlt: sc huols and hi gh sc hool and talk 10 1he yo un g people ro give them kind ofo Civics 10 1
lcsso n. We ho \'c 1h csc Libert y Doy books. whi ch I th ink yo u each got a copy of, 1ha1 co ntain the
De clar.mo n of Independence and 1hc Co nslitution . What I would like for yo u all 10 do . he said. as port of
yo ur suppo rl fo r L1 e rt y Da y, 1s lo talk 10 our kids . :rnd yo u can go any time of th e yea r yo u want. We can
arrange 11 wit h th e 1cachcrs fo r yo u to go into thc s.:hoo ls and yo u c nn ex plain wha t are 1he three branches
of government. wh y did our fo undin g fathers estab li sh a gove rn men t wit h 1hree branch es, what are 1he
checks and ba l:mc~s in our sys tem of go vernment. and what arc the Bill of Right s. Kind of just give a ba sic
C1v1cs 10 I cla ss 10 the kids nnd the n give th em each one of these books . We will su ppl y these books for
free to yo u to give to the sru de nts. We :i lso have anothe r progra m 1ha1 we are doi ng this yea r, that we just
stan ed. where we ha\lc these Libe rt y D:i y kids T-shins wi1h the Liberty Bell on the back. This is
appropria te fo r fo unh. lif1h an d sixth graders . Jill Ma ck, a Linlc1on Publi c Schoo l u:ncher, came up with
this idea tlu s yea r. She said loo k. what I think wou ld be rea ll y fun for these kids is 10 stud y th ese books
with 1h1.•1r parent s and as a home work ass ignm ent ask 1he chil dren to eac h come up with 1cn qu esti ons
abou t the Co nstitu1 io 11. Put the ir qucs 1io n on a 1hree by five card. put th e answer on the back , wi th the page
from the book where the answ er is fou nd. Then go to the Po st Office and all of the pe ople. who are wa ilin g
in line :11 the Pos t Office 10 mail their mai l, just go up and down the I inc and just quiz th e ad uhs. Wha l are
the five rights m 1he First Am endmc111 , wha t are th e qualifica ti ons 10 be Pres id ent of 1hc Uni1 ed State s.
what 1s the Fifth ,\mcndment . how man y rig hts are th ere. what are !he y? The id ea is that the kids would
rc se:irch th ese through the docu me nl s wi1h thei r pa ren ts an d co me up wi1h these qu es tions. Mr. McKe.:111
said it 1s absolut ely fa n1 as11 c and we arc go in g io do so me1hi ng li ke i1 in Englewood . I am n member of th e
lions Cl ub of Denver and 1his is bei ng coo rd ina ted through service groups. I am also an ::l pl imis t. he said .
Jim Ba1e s of Liberty Savi ngs Bank . has been appointed by the Li ons Club of Englewood 10 be the
coo rdinJl or fo r Li berty Da y :rnd in each co mmun ity in Co lora do and in America . all fi ft y sltl tcs, we arc
tryi ng 10 get :1 loca l servi ce cl ub member to do 1his. A sen1icc club membe r is no n-poliuca l. Our Lion s
Clu b 1110 110 1s ··wc Se rve" :md . by our bylaws, we can't be po litica l. So if you agree to supp ort th is. he
said . I \\':l lll, 1f 11 is a1 all possib le. for you to al so agree to speak to a class of stud ems and to act ively
part1c 1pJte m th e L1 be r1 y Da y prog ram . We don 't ha ve nny curricu lum . ii is up to yo u, in co llabo ration
with thl· teacher . What we like is 10 ha ve 1he el ec1 ed offic ia ls talk to th e teac hers and explain what yo u are
do ing as a Ci ty Co uncil member. wh n1 yo u would like to 1alk abou 1 rela1ive 10 the fo undin g doc uments and
kmd t,)f \\o rk toge th er on a les so n plan. We fo und 1ha1 to be rea ll y. rea ll y fun for the teac her , be cause the y
get a chance to ta lk to the elected official nnd brai nsto rm an d co me up with so me rea ll y good ideas . So 1h n1
is ba sica ll y wh :11 Li berty Da y is. He asked if Co un cil had :my que stions . I don't wa nt to 1akc up too much
of yo ur ume . he sa id. bcc Juse I ;mow yo u have :1 busy ag enda .
Mayo r Bra ds hJ w asked 1f Counc1 l had any que st ions fo r Mr. :VkKean . There were none .
Mayo r Br:id sha w advised Ylr . McKe:in th a1 Co uncil regularly goes into the schoo ls. We go ann ually, she
sa id . and we co uld JUSt incorpo ra1e so me of thi s in10 wh en we do anywa y.
\Ir. ~kKean s111 d 1f yo u cou ld ;ind . I don't know 1ftherc is so me feedbac k each of you co ul d giv e me .
Inside 1he bol>k 1s our phone number or yo u cou ld co nlJ Ct Jim 9 a1es and he can wo rk wuh yc u 10 sched ule
you . You c:1 11 sc he dalc your own tim e if yo u wan 1. yo u don 't have to have an outside person do 11 .
~to.yor Br adshaw s:ud we can incorpo rat e that when we go to visit th e m,d dle sc hoo ls.
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~Ir. ~le Kean s:ud abso lut ely and II wo ul d even be good m 1hc hi gh sc hoo l. bec3use I 1hink u 10 1 of1hc hig h
sc hoo l kids \vo ulcl like 10 mcct wuh yo u as \\e ll .
Ma yor Brnd sha w sa id ok.i.y . She thanked Mr . McKean .
Mr. ~le Kean thank ed Co uncil fo r allowing him :o :;peak . I appreciate n. he said.
7. Unscheduled Vi sito :-1
(a} T . W. Anderson sa id he appca re1 before Council previous ly about 1he co ncerns regardin g
Ce n1 cnnial Airport. :ibout the problems we had because 1hc FAA had cu1 off our funds . As you know , I
si:rned 1hc :11rport for the Commi ss ioners in the '60 's. I wa s Chairman for ten years and th ey put me on th e
Finance Conumncc . We had five me etings and we came up with th e solution of aski ng 1he ci ries to
co n1ribu1c a liule bh lo the airp ort temporaril y and also establish a one -t hird mill levy for the County . The
good news we've had additiona l inco me . he said . We so ld 11101 more ru e! and we are wo rk ing wit h the
members of Congre ss :ind th ey are goi ng to restore th!! funds to us from FAA . So I thought I would repon
that to yo u. Ano 1her facto r. he said . as I men tioned to M:i yo r Br:idshaw, is th at we are bu ild ing a 192 un it
ass isled li vi ng buil di ng in Aurora at 1 Yh and Peoria , two blocks sou th of Fi tzs immons, and we wou ld lik e
10 be able 10 do one in Eng lewood for yo u so metime . So. Mr . Anderson said . we wi l! 11tlk 10 the proper
peop le abou1 ii. He thanked Co un ci l.
~fayo r Bradsho.w th.inked Mr. Anderso n.
(b) R:iy Tomasso sa id ton ig ht a He r Study Se ssi on , :ifter looking at th e fi gures and the wa y
tlun gs were runni ng I 1hought :ibou t making :in offe r on th e house . The demoliti on cos ts :ire $34,000 .00
and yo u ha ve SSS ,000 .00 in insur:ince refu nd. whic h is S 122.000.00 . I will offer you S 13.000 .00 for the
house :md 1hc prl)pc rly, he said . Thi s ,votl!d save yo u :rn y ex pense in yo ur hudget thi s ye ar, you wou ldn 't
ha ve the outl ay of any money . There is also the possi bilit y th at I co uld get 1he S 14 .000.00 grant from th e
S1a1e and. if1 hey could transfe r the gnm1. 1here wo uldn 't be a budge t item fo r an y oftha1. So, he said. I
wo uld like for you to cons id er that
~layor 13radsh ilw said the offe r is S13,000 .00 for our in ves tment, f S 160 ,000 .00.
~tr. Tonusso s:u d yo ur in ·cstment was $135 .260.00 . That was the firs t figure . Your addi tio nal cos t, if yo u
tea r the ho use down. is $34,000 .00 and yuu hu vc SSS ,000 .00 fo r in surance . Th,u brings it up 10
122 .000 .00 of 1hc S 13;,000.00 1h31 yo u paid for i1 and S 13,000 .00 wou ld pul yo u at SI 35.000 .00 . Mayo r
Bradshaw no ted Co uncil ha s that memo. Mr. Tomasso said yes. so 1hat is where it is at and if t ca n ge t the
grant transferred 1hen you save that $1 4.000 .00 that yo u don 't hove to pay boc k. So that is a poss ibility .
Co un ci l ~frm bc r Yurc hic k asked ~1 r. TomJ sso if he has the fu nds 10 fi . up the hou se or at least su1b il ize ii.
Mr. To nusso said I be lie\'e I cou ld. It is no1 1h:11 difficult to stab ilize it. It 's just a mJtter of digging 3 lot of
little hole s and po unng a lot oflinle co ncrete pylons until you ge t the pylons co mpl eted . You can do it
n·ry low 1cch as op posed 10 j:i cking the ho use up and (\o mg it nm ssivel y and roo fs arc easy . Mo ld can be
1:iken care of w11 h chloride . Havi ng a pape r studio I wa ter my mold week ly. Eve ry once in a whi le I ha ve
to kill 11 . ~·lt ke Fl nhe n y asked me to submit thi s in writing , so I will do that.
~l:!.;Jr Bradsha w th:mkcd Mr . Tonusso.
~Ir. To masso th:mk ed Co un cil
(c) 1\lark Rodman. Execuuvc Director of Co lorado Preserva ti on Inc .. advised th.i t he is fro m
No nh Ca rohn:i . I worked with preserva 11on m 1orth Ca rolina, he said. and we did a lot of wo rk with
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lm1oric propertie s. propcnies tluu everybod y said nolhin g co uld be don e wuh , 1hey need 10 be demolished.
the re is no way to do 11. What yo u try to do with tho se propertie s 1s you try to figure out how 10 brmg them
m1 0 so met hing II Jt will sell on the mark et. so me1hing th:u people can dea l wu h, You have one ofTer here ,
he s:ud, and I th ink that 1s a good offer . The altema live also. to 1h01. is that yo u h11ve alread y put so much
mon ey imo thi s house . If yo u toke th e insur:ince mone y yo u have and you take the mone y llut you ha ve
wuh th!! res1 of the grant and fini sh the stabilization , that pu ls this proj ect in a ballpark where it is like
$22 0,000 .00 to fini sh th e re st of 1he rehab 1li 1a1ion. wh ic h wi ll take th.al prope ny and make ii useful for a
re side nce or :1 bus ine ~s. I know yo u h:ivc put :1 lot of mone y into th is and you wonder how you can recover
yo ur cos ts. I don't know that l c:1 11 offe r yo u, dire c1l y, 11 way to recm1er your cost . but if you do the
stab ih zauo n wi th th e funds !hat yo u already hav e then yo u ca n 1ake that property and give it lo :i 11011-profil.
whi ch ca n give it 10 so mebody else wh o can fini sh the rehabilitauo n and put it bac k on the market to a for-
profi1 group that can in mm bring tax revenue ba ck tn the Ci 1y. Another op1io n. he said, is tha 1 I ha ve
wo rked wi th gro up s th:i 1 ha ve 1oken the se propenics, they do the stab !l i..ati on and then lea se ii 10 a group
for say fiflcen or 1,,,e n1 y years. Th eir cos 1 is 10 rehab it and the y let th em have it for a do ll ar ii year fr om
then on. Well. then in fifteen or 1wenty years yo u have a nice propcny th:it the y ha ve upgraded and take n
care of. at r10 cos t co you, 1ha1 yo u c:111 do wi1h wha t you will or rha1 poilll . So, Mr. Rodnum so•rt. I think
lhese :ire a i::ouplc of options lllill ha\'e11'1 been co nsi dered and Colorado Preservation Inc . woulJ lik e
funh er time to work wi th the Co uncil and the staff to co me up wi 1h these options . He thanked Council.
(d) Euge ne Norrrurn sa id I hnv'! this idea that if I can get a committee or so me1hing 1oget her
where I co ul d exp lam wha1 co uld be done, yo u wou ld be ab le to increa se yo ur amount of water and the
probl ems th:it yo u now ha \'C wo uld simp ly go away. I wo ul d need a blo ckbo.!rd, he soirl, so 1h111 I could
draw 1he schematic s of what I am tryi ng r.> prese nt. II wo uld be exc ell ent for Co lorad o, all along the From
Ronge of Colorado. and ail the wa :, dow.1 in10 New Me xico . I feel i1 is on exce ll ent ide:1 , he said, but I
don·1 reall y have the ume to present It now . He asked ifit would be possible 10 se t up so me kind ofan
appointment wi1h two or three peop le so he co uld di~cuss lhe entire idea .
Ma yo r Brad shaw asked Counci l ho w they wan ted to hand le th is. It was detennined that this should go to
Water and Sewer Board . Ma yo r Bradshaw referred Mr . Normon 10 Director Fonda ,
City Mana ger Sc:1.rs :1.dvi sed Mr. No rma n that Director Fonda could 1a ke him ro nn upcoming Water :i.nd
Sewe r Boa rd mee ti ng .
8. Cn mmunlc a tions. Procla ma ti ons and Appoi ntme nt s
(11) A l.:ner fro m Samara Ferber indicatin g her res igna1i on from the Englewood Board of
AdJust mcru .:ind Appeal s was co nsidere d.
COUNC IL ~!EMBER NABHOLZ MOVED . A:-ID IT WAS SECON DED . TO ACCEPT. WITH
REGRET. THE RESIGNATION OF SAMA RA FERBER FROM THE ENGLEWOOD BOARD OF
ADJ STMENT AND APPE AI.S.
Ayes : Coun cil Members Nnbholz , Moore . Garren. Wolosyn.
Yurch ic k. Grazulis , Bradshaw
Na ys: No ne
Moti on ca rried.
(bl A proclnnu tion declaring September , 2002 as Literac y Mon th was considered .
CO l 1NC IL ~I EMBER GRAZULIS ~IOVED, AN D IT WAS SECONDE D. TO APPROVE A
PROCLA~IATION DECLA RI NG SEPTDIB ER. 2002 AS LITERACY MO NT H.
Ayes :
Nnys :
Co un cil Members Na bholz , Moore . Garren . Wol osyn .
Yurchick . Gra zu li s. Bradshnw
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tc) A proclam:iuo n Jecl unn g c:p1 ember 11 , 1002 as "A lwil ys R1~member 9.1 I Day" was
co ns1dcrt·d.
COUl\"C IL MDIBER GRAZU LI S ~IOVED. AND IT WAS SECON DF'•. TO APPRO\'E A
l'RO C LA~IA rlO:-' DE CLARll\"G SE PTEMBE R 11 , 2002 AS "ALWAYS REMEMBER 9-11 DAY ".
Ayes: oun cil ~!embers >J abholz, Moore. Garret!, Wolos yn,
Gra zuli s. Brad shaw
Ntt ys : oun ci l Member Yurchick
Mori on c-J med.
\d) A prod:11na11 on decl :mng th e week of Scplembc:r 15 throug h 21 , 2002 as Yellow Rib bon
You th U1C1dc: :\warcnes Prc,c:1mo11 Wee k wa s conside red .
COU NC IL )IE~IBER GRAZULIS MOVED . AND IT WAS SECON DED , TO APPROVE A
l'RO CLA MATIOl\" DECLARING THE WEEK OF SEPTEMBER IS THROUGH 21., )002 AS
YELLOW RIIIUON YO UTH SUCID E AWARENESS /PREVENTION WEEK.
M\J lio n ea rned .
Ayes: Co unc il Mt!mbers :,.labholz. lvloo re, Garrett, Wol osyn ,
Yurclu ck. Gra zulis, Bradshaw
(e) A prod:1111a11lm dcclan ng the week of Septe mb er 15 th ro ugh 21 . 2002 as Co ns1itu1ion
Wec k was i:ons ,dc ri=d .
COUNC IL )IDlllER GRAZ ULI S MOVED, AND IT WA S SECON DED , TO APPRO VE A
PROCLA~IATION DECLARl 1'"G THE WEEK OF SE PTEMB ER IS THRO UG H 21. 2002 AS
CONS TITUTION WEEK.
Ayes : Co unc il Members Nab holz, Ytoore, Garrett. \Volosyn.
Yu rch ick . Grazull s. Bra ds ha w
Nays : No ne
~·loti on comed.
9. Publ ic Jle.:aring
t a) ~ll yo r Rrads.haw advised thnt thi s is a public hearing to gather ci tizen input on Council
Bill No . JS . Jpp 10\"111g The Shops at Hampden Jnd Logan Plann ed Unit De velop ment (Safewa y P 0).
CO U:-.CII . )l t MB ER WOLOSYN MOVED . AND IT WAS SECON DED . TO OPEN .\ PUBLIC
HEARll\"G TO GATHER CITIZEN 11\"PUT ON COUNC IL BILL NO . 18. APPROVl1'"G THE
SHOPS AT f!A)lrDF.:-. AND LOGM, PLAN NE D U:-'IT DEVELOPMENT (SAFEWAY P UD).
Ayes: Ctl u1 wll Mcmbl·rs ~nbholz. Moore, Garren , \Volosyn,
Yurrh1ck. Grazuli s. Br:id sha w
'.'fays : ~1onc
~lotion ca mc:d Jnd l ht! Pu blu: Hc nn ng opeoed .
All w11 ne sses were du!~ swo rn
Se mor PIJ nncr LJn go n Jrl, 1scd 1h:it for yo ur cons 1dcro.t1 on 10111ght 1s the Publi c Hc :i rm g for Council Bill
No . 3 . The Shoi)s :11 J-' :impden and Log:rn Plann ed Un11 Oe \"elopment (S:ifew:i y PUO}. Co un cil lir sl
co1m defl•d 1h1s l>n firs ! ·cada1,1g on :\ugus1 5111• she said. :md \\Care here to mght 10 co nsider thi s Plnnncd
L'nll De,el opmc m. I h:.ve already submmed 101he 1ty Cler k. Proof of P 1b ht auo n li1a111 0 11cc ofth1s
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public he aring w,1s ;lllblished -.>n Augus t 9, lll02 in 1he Englewood Yerald and Ce nifi c:ui on of Po sr :ng is
fonhc onung from Gallowa y. Romero & Associ,ues . TI1c applicauon is from 5afeway, Inc .. rcpres en1ed
1omght by Ga lloway, Romero .. t Associau:s . Ms . L:mgo n exp la med 1hat rhe request is to rezone the
north west corner of 1hc: m:c 111cc 1ion at South Logan Stree t and U.S. Hi ghwa y 285 fro m O•I Bu si ne ss
D1 s1r1c1 to Planned Unu D,;vclopme m (PUD ). This request 1s 10 pemtit cons tru cllon ofa fueling focllny as
a Pem11tted Csc . TI1ut fueling foc1li1y would include s,.~ multiple product dispensers, whic h would be
I\\ dve gas pumps. 11 would abo 111cluoe a c:inopy cover ctwe rin ~ those di spense rs. an anendant kiosk and
;111 a1 r pump s1a11on . Al so mcluded m the request , she said. is a seasona l outdoor g:irden ce nter as :in
accessory use . ~·ts. Lan gon staled 1hat the PUD process is a rezoni ng :ind it is required , in this porti cular
case. because a fueli ng facil uy is not a permitted use in the B·l Business District As o rezoning, the P D
is des ignl·J 10 prov ide tlexibili 1y for Jevelopment tha1 ma y not be acc ommodated wi!hin the existing zo ne
d1s1 ric t regulati ons . The PUD c:s 1ablishes the zo ning :md 1he Sile Plan cri teria and it is specific 10 this
de ve lopme 111 . There are two part s to th e Planned Uni l Development , The firs t is a Di strict Plan nnd that
set s the regul.nion s that go ,1erns th e use s in the new zo ne di s1ric1 and the second pan is rhe Site Plan :rnd
1hat is 1he general site and develop ment details 1ha1 .ire spe cific to the project. h would include the
landsc apin g, devation li. stru ctures. sig na ge ... the various de\'e)opme 11 iss ues . The si te loca tion is at 1he
nort hwest comer of Sou 1h Logan and U.S. 285 . The si te is approxim,1tely ~.3 acres and 1he Safewa y s1ore
was built in 1983. She poin ted out that the PUD does no t include the shops that line th e north pro peny lir.c
of the dc:\'e lopme n1 . Those arc under separate ownership . Just as 1:>ackground fo r the record . she said. ille
pn:lintinary proposal was submiued to Comm unit y Deve lopm ent in April of 200 1. The required
neighborhood pre-submitta l meeting was held in Jun e 200 I and the forma l app li ca1io n was recr i.ved in
August 200 I. at which time it was rev iewed by the De ve lopm ent l<.eview Team .ind the our :i je :igenc ie s.
such as D T. Public He ari ngs were held by the Planning and Zo ning Commissio n on fo ur ni ghts, May
7'11• June ~111• June 1S111 and July 2nd • At the July 21111 meeti ng the Co mnu ssion voted tr, reco mmend 10 Ci ty
Counci l app rova l of the Pl anned Uni I De,·elopment wit}, cond ition s. The fi rst co~;di tion would be that
refueling tanke r tru ck acce ss 10 1hc site be via U.S. 285 10 So uth Sherm:in Strr c:1 and that refueling would
onl y occ ur betwcl.'n the hours of 11 :00 p.m. :ind 6:00 a.m. TI1e sec ond co nrl i1ion is that th e ou tdoor ga rden
acc essory use would l>c lin111 cd to tht> mon1 hs of April through Jul y and wou ld not utilize more than 20
parkmg spaces. as dcmons1ra 1cd on the proposed site plan . TI1e 1hird con diti on was a condi tion imposed by
the Plnmun g and Zon ing Co nuni ssio n and that was thnt the shrubbe ry between the sidewalk and Sout h
Loga n Street on the: ca st side of 1he site be of one species . The y also made a suggestion as 10 the type of
shrubs. Al the Pub lic Hen ring o number of members of the public attended and si te circ ulot io n and p:irking
wen: 1he key issues . I wo uld like 10 go ove r a few issues th:11 Communit y Dev'!lopment and other
dcpartmc:nts ha ve identified. she said. The key issu e tonig ht is this use and 1he appropriate use for thi s si te .
Tha l is what the rezoning is all about. The proposal is for thi: bas ic B• l Zone Di stri ct regulations to · "'main
1n effec t wi th th!!' additio n of l\\'O uses . The fue ling facili ty as a pemtined use and the outdoor garde n
center :is JII accessory use. Cum:ntl y thc:re arc ten fueling faci liti es (gas statio ns) wi th in a one mile: radius
of the siti:. She noted there was a nup anached to the staff repon. Of thos e ten. two are in B· l , 1he sa me
zone disrnct of the curre nt ne, and the y are gra ndfath ered non•conformi ng uses . There are seven witlun
the 0-2 Disuk t and tho se are co ndiuo na l use s, they are co ndi tio nall y all owed in 0 .2. There is one in the J.
1 D1 s1ric1 and that is a permuted use. Fueling facili,ies are not permitted in B• l , but the y are permitted as a
condiuo n:il use if1hcv r.;cct condi uons within the TJ-2 D1smct. The P D does meet those condiuonal use
requucments 1fit we;e 111 a B•2 D1 s1ric1. Parking was a seco ndary issue. The required number of parking
spaces tota led 231 spaces . The Sal :·.,,ay store itse lf requires 157 spaces , the garden center use requires 20
spa ces and 1here 1s an agrecme111 w11h 1hc: shops 10 the north for 54 parking space s. Those 54 pa rking
spa ces would re main . Howe,1er, the conligura 1ion of the parking la yo ut is slightl y changed . Ms . Langon
ad vised that the PUD is proposmg 239 spact:s. so it docs meet the parkmg rrquiremem . Acce ss is ccnain ly
a ke y issue because of the tanker trucks co ming in. There are four acce ss points . A co nce rn would be the
one 01 So uth Loga n and that entra nce ts acnially being propo sed to be widened 10 allow left and righ1 n1m
egresses from the sne . The traffic engmec-r has recommcndc-d tha t the refueling tanker trucks en ter the sne
from U.S. 285 10 Somh Sherman S1ree1. Usmg that method requires all righ l hand rums for the trucks and
it also dimi11ates 1hc: use of 1he Sou1h Logan S1ree 1 entran ce nnd th e ot her en 1rances th 1u would crea te a.
ugl11cr turmng r:idius 101 rhc truc ks. Agam, 1he Planmng and Zo nin g Co mmi ss ion Se l the condttion tha t
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rcfu d ing mu st be done between 11 :00 p m. and 6:00 a.m and 1hat was des igned 10 miug:u e circul:rn on a nd
1rafflc C1J,1nic1s d11n •1g the da y. Fuel ing wa s also con ~1dered by the Fire Divi sio n and the Uu lity
Department and 11·-:~• ha \'e reviewed th e plans . The 'i1e Plan has :iddrcssed tho se departme nt is sues. I will
say. shl' said. 1ha11 11e S1ate reg ulates requireme nt s for fu el ta nk s, spill conia mment and emergen cy shut off.
Tho se considcrotions would be addressed within th ,: bui ld ing permit proce ss. Landscaping is also a
re4uiremc111 wi thin 1he PUD. There is no real sig nificant chan ge to !h e landscnr:-d area . however Snfcwoy
propo ses :iddi1io nal trees and shrubs to buffer bo 1h 1hc parking and fueling fa cilit y use. The Plannin g and
Zom ng Commissio n did impose some condition s on 1he eas1 side of the site regarding single use spe cies m
th e area between the sid ewalk and S'.>ulh Log:m Street. The ap plican t has addressed all th e Pio.Ming and
Zo nin g Commission issues :rnd , as l staled, if this were a B~l use ii wo uld be considered bdore the
Planning and Zoning Com missio n as a co ndi1ional use and it does me et all of the requirements for that
conditio nal use th in would address li gh1ing , landscaping , sc reen ing and building se t•backs . S1aff1herefore
re commends approval with the two conditions , that refuel ing be from U.S. 28S to South Sherman Street 10
1hc sile and be limilcd to the hours of 11 :00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. and 1ha1 the outdoor garden center, the
accl'ssory use. be pcnniucd from April to July and u1il ize no more than 20 parking spaces as demonstratrd
on the site plan . An addi ti ona l co nditi on imposed by the Plannin g :mJ Zo ning Co mmi ssio n wou ld be 1ha1
the shmbbcry be of a single species bc1ween the sidewa lk and Sou th LtJgan Street. Repre se runt ives from
Ga lloway and Romero arc here thi s evening represen ting Safewa y, she sa id. and I will address any of
Coa ncil 's ques tion s.
Mayor Bradshaw asked if Counci l had any questions for Ms. L::ingon .
Cou nci l Member Yurchick said he would like 10 ask a que stion . If this doesn't work. are there any
provisio ns that would require !hem 10 clean up the site ::ind not j usl leave a canopy and n bunch of islands
there with no gas pumps si ning on it'! 1 mean . he sa id, what yo u see when :1 lot of gas stations go out of
business is that ::i ll you arc ten wi1h is a canopy .ind :in isl:ind sining there . Is there a con tinge ncy plan 10
turn it back m1 0 .1 parkin1; lo!'!
Se nior Planner Lan gon advi sed 1'1at the re was no contingency plan . I am sure , she said. tha1 Co unci l cou ld
pul that in os a co nd i1io n, that r.lter a cem1.i n amount of time , if ii was 1101 a viable opcra1io11 or if the place
go es dark afler a certa in length of time , that it be removed .
lvt:i yo r Brad slmw asked if there were any other que stions . The :·c we re none .
Ma yor Bradshaw noted that the applican t would be next and thul there arc several people sign eJ up to
spc:ik 10 Co un cil on th is iss ue .
Jolm Beauparlant, a project man.i.ger for Galloway, Romero & As socia 1es, 53S0 OTC Pa rkwa y, Gree nwood
Village, explai ned thal !hey have a reall y grea1 ba ckgroun d as a compre hensive plannin g, designing and
arc hite c1ural firm . \Ve speci ali ze in fueling foc11i11es and we have done a number of these for Safeway
throughout the Front R:rnge and othe r western sta tes . \Ve were retained by Safeway back in January of
1000 and ~·Is. L:1 ngon pre sen tl~d a prelly good summar y. We ha ve bee n working on this for Safeway fo r
nbout 20 months now and we fir s1 me1 with 1he Ci ty back in April of 200 I. Ms . Langon !old yo u abo ut the
neighborhood me eting and everything that is pan of the proce ss for rezoning . The ren so n we arc rea ll y
here is because of wha1 is known as hyperman fueling Ma yor Bradshaw confirmed that Counci l had
received 1he mfom1a1ion on hyperman fueling . Mr. Beauparlant said he wouldn'1 go into it in dctoil , but
b:1sically all of 1he grocery retailers around Denver. :ind n:itionall y. are trying to ofTe r yet one more service
to their customers ::ind the lule st one is fueling . Unfonunat ely, he not ed. this is not 1he some 1ype of us e and
so there :i re man y grocery store s that are operati ng on propeny that is not zoned to pennit them to oITe r the
fuding opuon . Tlus 1s tht! who le reaso n we are here 1011igl11 . The firs! thing I wou ld like 10 show you 1s the
downto wn plan . which is a ve ry old plan . We are in the far comer of wha1 wa!i origma ll y envisioned as !he
do,,111 0"11 area . So we b.:1S1ca ll y wo nder 1fth1s piece. :t i 1he \'e ry for co mer. actua ll y be longs in the
down 1own area . I'm 1101 sure 1t' 11 1s reall y a p::in ot' the bus me ss dis trict . it 1s mo re ot' the se rvice area. Our
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miti il l prop osQJ actually showed eig ht product di spensers and our 1::inks were ::il so in a diffe rent pla ce. bu t
reall y th ~ bilsic proposal is ::iboul the same. I wo uld like 10 walk th roug h all 1hc: changes. re visions,
ad di11 011s and emb elli shment s that we ha ve go ne throu gh as we ha ve go ne 1hrough th e process. bo th in
mcl't ing wit h th e Cit y and in the ma ny me e1ings with the Pl annin g Co mmi ssio n. The fi rs t thin g we di d was
redu ce the size fr om eight di spe nsers to six. Seco ndly, we redesigned Log iln Strce 1. We had two
lanes ... one lane in and one lane out. We created three lanes. so we have a dedi ca ted ri ght tum and a
dcd1 ca1cd lcfl lum egress lane and we think that will be a signifi can t improvemc ni in te rms of traffic . Th e
other tlu ng we ha vc do ne is make an access fo r our stacki ng area fo r ve hicl es that wa nt 10 eg ress the si te.
He showed how difficu h it wo ul d be 10 ge t thro ugh !he area. bec.:iuse ca rs back up . We co nferred wit h Mr.
Vos tr y. the Trallic Engmecr, and we received his support to hn ve an area whe re ca rs can sla ck up and 1101
block main drive l:rne s norlh :md so uth . Th e other 1hing we ha ve done in terms of ingre ss . at the U.S. 285
si 1c 1s, we ha "c proposed a very differenl geome try than what we have ri glu now . We have rea rranged the
gco mc1ry of 1hi s access so 1hat cars can co me in at a fos ter spee d. snfer and get off of the ro ad and rum in.
The other thing we ha ve done is , we hu,1e co mpl etely redesigned the parkin g l01. We are proposing a
co mplete restnping of the par king lot wit h the numb er of pa rki ng spac es 1ha1 rvts. Lango n had me11 11one.d.
Thi s PUD. as Ms. Lan go n said. does 110 1 cove r th e shops on th e nort h. only the pro pe rty whi ch is. in fact.
owned by Safeway. The shops on the north are not owned by Safeway and so they are not in cl uded in thi s
PUD. ot herwise we wo uld ha ve includ ed them . We o.re limi1 ed. in 1he PUD area. 10 keep the :ctal numb er
of signs. for th e fueling, the store. plu s fre e stan din g sign s. 10 n tota l of ten , of no more than 400 sq uare feet
10 1:1 1. Th:it is well wi th in th e r:in ge ofwho t the Ci 1y's Code allows, he said . w,-ha ve co mmined to the
U.S. 285 /So ulh Sherman Street tanker route and to restri ct refut!lin g 10 th e hours o r 11 :00 p.m. 10 6:00 a.m.
He poin1cd out where 1hc gardc:i ce111 cr woulc! be loc ated and slated that they will use 20 park ing sp::ice s
o.nd ii wi ll be open from Apri l 10 Jul y on ly. We. h11vc also redesigned the entire Loga n Stre et froma ge. He
showed wh:11 their archi 1ec1 harl dra wn showing th e proposed fro ntage and he noted that 1he shrub be ry is
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cmirc frontage or Loga n Stree t. Mr . Beauparlant. usin~ hi s diagrams. ex plain ed !h e proposed cha nges. He
had a photo th:11 was tak en the day the y were pavi ng So uth Loga n Street He noted it is not panic ula rly
auroc ti vc. What we are proposi ng to do. he said. is 10 add a bunch of honey loc ust tre es , a bunch of shrubs
and so me sod and hopefull y we will hav e more wa ter ne xt ye ar so we can do th is . The 0!11cr l\vo items I
wa nt 10 menti on. 1s 1ha1 we propose 10 ad d n wheelchair :iccc ss ramp off of Sout h Logan Stre et. He
exp lain ed the part ic ul ars of the whedcha ir access. Wr thou ght lhi s would be we ll worth it , 10 add 1hi ~
wheelc ha ir access wlu lc we arc doing th c:sc other improve ments. As req uired, we will all oca 1e n portinn of
the park ing lot to the slhJps on the north . ~r. Bea up:irlant showed the clcva 1ions that had been crea 1ed 10
show what th e faci lity wo ul d loo k like . We ha ve six pumps , a small ki osk about ~22 squ are fee l with a
c:mopy. sig nagc. etc. He noted 1herc 1s a facility in pl:1c e right now in Langmo 111. I bel ieve pic ru res of ~hat
f:u:tli1 y were included in 1he Co un cil pa cket , he said . I e ncl ose d tho se picture s b:ca use 1h:11 parti cularl y
foc ili1 y in Longmont is very, very si milar 10 th is one. It is a littl e bit larger. bu1 it is se t off by itse lf. it is
part of the parkin g lo t. bm it is seµar:uc from the ccmcr. It is a Safeway Ce nter , so It is not j ust a Safew:iy
sto re. We did a co mpu 1e.r simul:ition , wi th 1he new faci lit y 111 th is parti cular loca 1ion. He gave 1hc City
Clerk a copy of the co mpu te r s1mul a1ion for the record . I wo uld like 10 pass i1 on 10 Co un cil. he sa id . as ii
shows 1he sight line s and I think 1h01 is ve ry impom.1111 to the pe ople that run The Shops at Hampden and
Logan . He gave Council a co py to pas s around. Wi th 1ha1 I wo uld like 10 go int o the mea l and pota toe s
issues of rezo ning . :\s Ms . Langon said. right now the B-1 zo ne dis trict does n ·1 permil fueling faci liti es.
thl' B-2 zo ne dist ri ct permits it as a co nd itional use and it is allowed in th e indus tr ia l zo ne districts.
However. mos 1 people do n't want to drive to the industria l zone dismc1s to fuel their car, they would ra1her
do it close r to home where they can co mbi ne trips w11h oth er thin gs . This is a ge neral four pnn rezoning,
not fo r PUD. but general re zo ning cri(cria and basically 1he is sue s 10 pro mote health . safety and welfa re are
consis 1c111 \\Ith the Co mprehensive Plan. Has th ere bee n a ma1crial r.:h::i nge in the chara cte r of1hc
nl'1ghbo rhood '! The fo ur1h one 1s th at the propert y cannot be developed fo r 1his parti cula r use. This is 1he
way we :ire looking at 11. It can ·1 be in a B· 1 zo ne district so ii has 10 be rezo ned to allow for thi s anrl we
fee:! we meet 1he gene ric rezoning cri1cria . Th ere is very speci fi c rezoning crit eria :md . as Ms . L::mg on said,
1herc 1s both a Di s1r1c1 Pi nn and a Si le Pl an. With the boards. he said. I want to bri efl y show yo u rhc •
rezon mg crncna . The PUD Distm:t Plan ' /'} be m confo rmance with th t' Comprehens ive Plan and we
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i~d 1h1s 1s nnd s1nffhas agreed that i1 1s. All the required doeumcn 1s. refc 1ra ls, etc . have 1akcn pi nce over
thr Inst year and a ha lf wuh 1he City. Is 1he P U □ Dis trict Pinn consis1en 1 wu h the adop 1ed and ge nera ll y
nccep 1ed s1:1nd:irds of dcvcl!lpmcnt 111 the C11 y'! \\' e fee l that 11 is . ii is n !ugh quality fac il ity. us ing hi gh
quali ty m:11cnn ls and 11 1s ve ry mode rn . As Ms. Lango n men uoned . the 1:ue Oil and G!is is 1he safe ty ne 1.
1f you will. for 1he fueling fac1Ji 11 es . \\ie \\Ork ,,·uh 1hcm :i ll the ume . We des ign 1op qu::iilty facili ties . Is
1hc P L"□ Di stric t Pla n subs1::i n11ally consisten t with all of th e go als and obJec tives, etc. of the Ci ry? I fee l
1h01 tins would be and s1affhas agn:ed m 1hdr repo11 that 1hey fed 1his meets the objectives of1he Ci ty.
The specifi c Sue Pl :m itself then ha s to be 111 comp li:mce with the District Pinn . When we were pu ll ing this
toget her we made sure that 1ha1 ha ppe ned . We h::id all the docu ments :md the referrals. e1c . h::ive taken
place and 11 1s genera ll y con sisten t wi 1h 1hc go:1ls and objectives , We fee l we meet :i ll or1he cr i1eri:1 . What
I would lik e 10 do is just co nce n1ra 1c if I co ul d, fo r a few mi nu tes. 011 these three ma in areas. There are
so me ot her fo lk s who wo uld li ke 10 spea k as we ll and 1hen we can always answer ques ti ons. One of the
ncms 1ha1 1s very im pon n111 is 1he pa rkin g. There 1s an ease ment. wh ich has bee n th ere si nce 1986 and it is
betwee n Safeway and Ste ph en Wic kliff. who was th e predecesso r in int eres t 10 Perry Bec ky who represe nts
Bonbcck HL LLC. We hnvc worked wi1 h him and looked at this pa rki ng easeme nt. bot h the ex is1i ng and
propo sed . He showe d them a diag ram of exac tl y whal 1hc cnse men1 loo ks li ke 10Ja y. Whal we are
proposmg 1s css cnti ally the so mc cnseme nl. the same numbe r of spaces , 54. just a lin le bit diffe re nt
conligur.1 11011. We now have 23 sp::ices up along those shops. inslcad of the 20 th~t exis t 1od::iy. bec ::iuse the
spac c-s right now arc ove rsized . I think 1he 01hcr 11cm that is imponn nl is the dis1once that the avera ge
custome r to the shops. wi ll have 10 tra vel. The average distance rig ht now, for all the spaces , is 95 .6 fe el.
bu t bas ica ll y within 50 fcei there are eiglu spaces and wi 1hin SO fee t there are 15 sp::i ces. Ove r towards the
liquor store and sub shop ;u ea th ere :i re 16 spaces . Th:11 is th e way it is curre nt ly co nfi gured . ndcr the
propo se d pla n tt is basic all y the same !lung. The average spa ce fo r all 54 spaces is 104 fee l :ind agai n,
within SO fee t there a:e 15 spaces . So we feel we arc replic ating ex istin g pa rking e::i scmcnt to the
max im um poss ib le l!x tent. The ot her thing we have do ne, and I wo uld like to en ler ii int o th e record. ir we
could. 1s we have a Pa rk ing Andi !, which was done O\'er th ree da ys bac k in 200 1 and. appare ntl y, Sa feway
dor s tins on a regu lar ba sis, Whal we have clo ne is al va rio us ti mes of the day it shows 1he spo1s 1ha1 arc
1ill ed and the spo1s tha t are not fi ll ed 1hro ughout 1he d::iy, What we be lieve from this is that there are a lot
of cmptv spots up th ere" and I think most peo pl e wt·,? drive by there know 1ha1 1here is a lot of excess
pn rkm u at tha l 101 :ind that is why we feel we have plenty of roo m 10 buil d th is faci li ty . Mr. Be::i up ar lant
prese nted :1 copy ofthc Pn1king Lo i Audi t to the City Clerk to be ent ered imo the recorJ. The seco nd ite m
1ha 1 Ms. La ngo n iden uli ed :i s be in g ver y important is access and circu lat ion. We have alrea dy me n1 ioncd
the Loga n 1ree 1 access and 1he U.S. 285 access . He poin ted out 1he :i rca where they fee l 1hey have
improved the sc:i ckin g and eg ress. We ha ve also put crosswal ks in and we arc goi ::g to add a lot of stop
signs. l Isi ng his diagra m he showed where they wa nt 10 pu t the crosswal ks and Slo p signs. He ide nt ified
the areas where: they will improve the l!gress and ac ci:ss . Whal \\'C have re all y done is sepa rate 1hc fu eling
use fro m the customer parki ng use. The only time th is is go in g 10 hnve an y 1r::i ffic in it is two or 1hree times
a wee k in off ho urs, th e ta nl:cr truck is goi ng to co me in. So. fo r the mos ! p:irt it will ha ve no im pa ct
whatsoeve r on thi s si 1e. We :i lso show here th e new pro pos ed wheelc hai r r.amp . This is a circulati on pl::i n
and it is incl ude d in the pac ket. Fina ll y. what I woul d like 10 t::ilk ::ibou 1 is the la ndscapi ng. We arc nol
really pro posing J lo t of new landsc ::ip ing. In 1986 the area. that was the greenway, was ded ica ted by
Safeway 10 the City. There has been an a ll owa nce 10 use up to sou~ of yo ur 101al la ndscnpi ng bein g offs i1 c.
so we :ire ab le 10 re cnprure 1hr: 1mpac 1 of that. What we :ire doi ng wit h 1h1s pnn1c uln r proposa l is we are
add mg an awfu l lot oflandscnping . We are addi ng 18 new trees nnd we arc going to have to tak e 4 small
trees out of1he parkmg 101. A 101 or those parking lo t is lands do n't rea ll y h::ive any l:1ndsc::iping in the m :i t
Jll, so we wi ll be nukmg su re 1ha 1 all of the parking lot islands ha\'e 1.:indscnpi ng. So we hnve a 101::i l of 14
new trees :md 236 new shrubs . The vast majority of the shru bs will be on Sou th Loga n Stree t So we fe el
1hat this is a posi 1ive addi 1io n to tlus co re area and 11 is 1akmg space thill, right now. is nothing but un used
pnrkmg areas :tnd we arc pumng a produc11ve use to 11. The ot her thing we would have. durmg 1he hours
tha t the s1ore 1s oper:rnng. 1s an :me ndant :11 the kio sk md nght no w there aren'1 very ma ny eyes in that area
111 terms of cus1omer safety or wh:11 h::ive yo u. so \\'C will have an extra si:t of eyes the re in 1he fom1 of a
k11,sk auendam for mo st nfthr: day . That 1s abm 11 all I have 10 say, he said. bu t I will re spond to questio ns .
We have a few 01her folks 1hnt would like to speak . ~•Ir. Dan Cla yto n is wuh Safeway ·s re:1! es1a1e group
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tha t deals wtth fue lmg foci lill es. we also ha ve Ylr. Pe rry Bec ky here rep resenti ng The Shops at Hampden
and Log;in and ~Ir. '.'Jate Stevens is the 'itorc manager. The y wo uld like to address Co unr il if possible .
:vlo.yor Bradshaw sai d sure. \Ve w1 l1 lct them fini sh the presentation and then we will open it up for
questio'ls iftlmt is okay.
Dan Cla yton. Re.:1 1 Es1:11e M:inager wnh Safeway. 6900 Somh Yose mite in Eng lewood, said tha t Mr .
Bc:iup;ulant has spcn1 quite a bi: of 11111e talking aboui the technical aspects of the app lic.i1ion before you
and I will foc us my commc nls on the marketing and opera tio nal aspects. Sa feway. in the Denver divisio n.
has now had gas stations operatin£ for about a ye ar and eigh t mo nt hs. We have found our fueling program
to be a \'ery positive: addi 1io1110 our offering to the Safeway custo mer. he said . Wt! have found that 11 has
bec n impona111. and increasingly importan t, for seve ral re aso ns. First of all. from a compc liti ve sta ndpoi nt
as we arc rcccivmg co mpetiti on fro m ot her retailers. Direct co mpe tit ors such :is King Soopers :i nd
Albensons 11\JW ha\·e :i fuel offering . Al so. so me indirect compet itors such as Costco and Wa l-Mart are
ofTe ring (uel. So in an d fon 10 remain co mp eti 1ive , he s:iid. i1 beco mes inc reasingl y impo nant tha.1, where
we c.:111. wc uy and 111:ike thi s addi 1io n as o one-s1o p shopping co ncl!pt offori ng to our cus1omers . In the
mteres t ot're maming compe titive, th is proposed fue l statio n is the firs 1 ofwha1 we hope will be J coup le of
phase s of invi:s tmc n1 in 1ha1 shop ping ce nt er. To be hones t, he said. the ce nter today is a littl e bi t tired and
re.i ll y needs so me spru cing up. So our hope is. wi th the addi tio n of the fu d sta tio n. and if 1hings prog ress
as we hope ond i1 goes we ll. wt: wou ld li ke to co me back 10 you over the co urse of th e nex t couple of yea rs
and propose :i seco nd phase. whic h wi ll be a re mode l 10 th e grocery store . So we have kmd of 3 long-te rm
plan for th.it ce nter to upgrade it and ii docs need it. The second rc:ison th.:11 we found our fueli ng progra m
to be incrcasmg ly impona nt is tha t we recognize that it fos 1crs loya lt y. By offeri ng discou nts 10 the fueli ng
cus tomer. by use of thei r Safew:i y Clu b C.:1 rd, it h:i s rea ll y fos tered loya ll y :i nd repeat busi ness. We
ge nerall y offe r a co mpcti tivt price to a c ustomer off th e street, but then we offe r an :iddi tiona l discou nt to a
cus tome r who hus a Safeway Club Ca rd, in th e fo rm of:i th ree to fiv e cen t disco un t. And :!::!' rea ll y does
help a grc:.t t deal in 1erms of gene rating repea t busi ness . Thi rd. it drive s sales inside the grocery store and
that is rea ll y who 1 it is :ill aboul. We have hnd very positive ex perie nces in terms oft::i.kin g groce ry stores.
that have had a dccli1i ing tre nd in terms of grocery store sales. and in 1he recent pas1 where we have added
1hesc in to our parking 101. no t onl y ha\'c we 1umed aroun d what w:is :i neg:itivc trend . but in some c:iscs.
increased saks inside the grocery store . Wi th that in mind. where we have found ii has he lped us in our
grocery store . as the an chor of a centcr. we hllvc bee n offered some unsolicited co mments by olh er tena nts
in 1he adJacent shop space. that they arc se eing an increac.e in their busme ss. So it helps, not onl y the
anc hor. but the ce nt cr as a whole. Longmo nt is :m examp le that has bee n used, :is :i rece nt analog ue 10 this
1ypc of appli ca1ion. Las1ly. I wo uld j ust like to share wi 1h yo u so me of our due di li ge nce 1hat we do.
in 1ema ll y a1 Safeway , whe n we submit 10 our Rea l Est:ite Co mmi ll ee :md ask 1hem 10 fund :i projec t for a
fue l st:Hio n. Mr. Clayto n ex pl:ii ned that we contrJc t wit h an indepe nde nt thi rd party 10 do a ma rke t srudy
and th.it marke t study takes a look at what we arc propo sing in the wa>' of layo ut, wh:i t the impac ts are to
p.:1rkiny. what the visibility is to our grocery store. wha.1 the competition is :mo how the y arc priced . That
market stud y 1s the b:is 1s under wluc h we propose to ou r Real Eslil le Co mminee 10 fund the project. In
:iddiu on 10 that we look very closel y at \'Jsibili ty 10 the s1orc and we do a pa rking lo t stu dy , whic h has bee n
emcred 11110 the record 1lm eve ning . In tlu s c:isc . our Re.ii Es'-' Comm iuee was comfonable nuking ll
recomm cndauon 10 nuke :J signifi ca nt inves tment in :1 fuel facility for this loc:ition . Some may mamt:iin
th.i t we don't need an ot her gas station. but our m:irke t srud y. whi ch was done by an independenl 1hird party.
mdico.ted tha t the re 1s a need for ii. ~'Ir. la yton said I hav e mdica ted to yo u so me ofthc competitive
re:isons th.it we !i nd it important ond on tha t b:isis S:ifewoy 1s prepared 10 1:ike the fin:incial ri sk tlm1 there ;s
m fac1 a need for a gas station . He thanked Council.
~layo r Brad shaw thanked ~Ir. Cla y1on .
Perry Be cky. 7 44 J ,.11 •11 Magnol io. En gl ewood. sai d I :im th e nuna gmg member fo r Bonbe ck HL LLC.
wluch 1s the cn111 y that owns the shops 1ha 1 yo u hea rd abou t. win ch are adj .:1 cen 1 10 the proposed fueling
foc1 \i1y. As ~Ir . Be aupa rl:int st:ited. we have an e.:1s ement :igrcement \\'llh Safeway, wl uch in cl udes, among
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01her co nsi derations. 1hat afe way wi ll pro vide us wi 1h a certai n number of parki ng spa ces for our ten ants
and tbr our ren:1111·s c usto mer s. \V i:'ve dis cussed the mitial ease ment an d the parking co nce rns with
Safeway. on a co uple of occa 1011s. Mr . Becky advise d. a nd these co nce rns were add ressed ond re solve d to
our s,msfoc tion . Actu all y. our ro ta ! pa:-!·mg spa ces hav e be en preserve d and ou r :iccess 1s goi ng 10 be
enhanced by this project. He no1ed tha1 O'lf tenants rely upon the traflic that Safeway provid es for them .
That is why the y sign lea ses wi th us. Obv 1ously. the gas f:mlity will draw more c ustom ers fo r the tenants
and thei r sales will incrc :i se . You've hea rd Mr . Cla.yton explai n that repea t c us10mers are 1heir num ber one
pnority for build ing 1he ga s fa ci li1y :md I be lieve our ten :1111s will derive 1his benefit J S wel l. We :1l so want
10 be part of Safeway·s long-t erm plans . We don't wa nt to be sining 1here, by ou rselves , in ten years . We
wo uld like to co n1inue thi s panne1ship wi th Safeway. We are in favor of the gas facilit y. he s:ud. It is a
positive add it io n 10 the shopping center. The bouom hne is , after speaking with all 1he 1enan 1s. perso nall y,
:i ll but a co uple are de fi1111 ely in ag ree me111 and wa nt to see it happen . Tim t is all I ha\'C fo r you, he said .
~•la yor Brnd shaw !hanked Mr. Becky.
Da ve Lawre nce said I own the Subce nt i:r, :i sho p to 1he nonh. l·k held up a handou1 en1i 1led "Impa ct of 1he
:ia fe way Gas Sta 1ion" and as ked if Co uncil harJ rece ived a cc.py ofit. Co un cil indi cat ed the y had 1101. Mr .
Lawrence said he printed nine of 1hese for the Plannin g and Zo ning Co mmis sion . He poi nted out that yo u
all go t mn1erial for the 01her side. but no m:uerial from th e opposition . It might be a good deal for
everybod y d se. he sn id . but he pointed ou 1 the parking spa ces that ::ire being elimin::i1cd . So basi call y. he
said. 1hey a~e eliminating 24 space s rig hl . direct ly. in front of my store . So, he stal ed , I ::im 1he one 1h01 is
:tfTec ted by th is more than an yo ne else , That is my m.:iin problem wi1h it. I don't rea ll y think 1hey need :i.
gns s1atio11. The y s:ud there is co mpe1 i1io n fr om Al bcnso ns a nd Cos ico , whi ch are n ·1 eve n in th e area. and
there is co mpc1ition from Wa.l •~tan :ind King Sooo ers. which arc in th e :uea. but they don 't have fue ling
st.:rn ons. There arc 01her fuelin g s1a1ion , he said . there is one at 106'h and Sheridan and one in Wood land
Park. and i1 is a whole ne w pl.:m. wh ere th e fueling s1a1io n is se pnra 1c from the Safe way and th ey ho.,·e ac res
and acres of spa ce . Th ey .:ire kind of jus t throw ing th e ga s stati on into thi s sp:ic e. he sai d. I think it is rea ll y
pmming it in there . I thi nk 1hc problem is that we arc li mited in our vi sibili ty by that bi g ca nopy and I
wo uld dro p my oppo si uon . if 1hey w1J uld :igree to pul a marquee sig n up on th e comer 1h;.,,1 li sts 1he name s
of the 01hcr shops in addi1ion to Safew ay. The re is one there ri ght now 1hat says S:ifeway. Th e Shops a1
Ham pden :ind Loga n. but it doesn'1 specifically me nt io n that there 1s :i liquor store. a sub shop. a b:ink or
an y of th:it. ~Ir. Lawren ce sa id if the y wo uld agree to do th:it ... and I woul d agree to pa y an y of my sha re
of the cos1s of construct mg and ma1111 ai ni ng the sign ... then I would go along with dropping :in y oppos11 io n
I h:'.1.\'e to the proJect. Th:11 ·s all I ha ve to Sil Y, he said .
~1ayo r Br:id shaw thanked Mr. L:iwrcn cc.
Mayor Br:id sh:i w asked if there was an yo ne el se that wis hed 10 addre ss the Co uncil on thi s 11131ter this
evening . Ther e w:is no one .
~,ta yo r Bro ds h:iw :i.skcd if Counci l hld any qu es tio ns.
Counc il Membe r Moore Sil.id in watclung the prese nta1io n he had one question :i nd the Sub ce nl cr owner
JUSt hit ri gh1 on 1t What stnk cs me. he said. 1s at the en rran ce o!To f Log an Stree 1 10 thi s fa ci lit y, wi th the
s1ac ki ng lnnc ... and :ill th :u looks gre :n ... but it seems like yo u nrc goi ng 10 be effe cti vely clim in:i ting about
five spac es there beca use of the trilllic comi ng in off of Log an . If you ass ume that there is :in incrc:i sed
vol ume of trallic for th e sta ti on . I would expe ct that the stackmg ts necess:iry, bec:iuse yo u are go in g to
ha ve more trallic 1here . Bu1. he po mtc d out. gelling in and out of these spots is going to be ver y diffi cu lt .
So 1101 onl y have th ese shops 10s 1 some of 1hc1 r pa rkin g, 11 looks to me like they have los t the ones rig ht 111
front olthe,r store . I may be having 100 much conce rn :1bou1 that tr affi c there. he sai d. bu1 I JUSt co uldn't
help bm wonde r ,f it coul d just be moved m closer 10 1he gas fac iln y. or somet hin g lik e th:it . to allow bener
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~11:l yor Br:idsh:iw :isked ,f~lr. ~loore was Jsking 10 mO\'C the whole en 1r.rncc up . Co uncil Member Moo rt"
so1d yes. hi: was just womlc rmg 1f 1hat wou ld be a possib1l i1 y, enough to al\ciw a litt le bi t bencr acce ss 10
1hose firs t few s1ores .
Mr. Be:mp:1rlon1 advised 1ha l 1ha 1 sa me suggestion was broug!·u up during 1he Plilnning Commission
hi::irings ... 10 relocate lhl t access fun her 10 the sou th ... and it was decided that ii wa sn't a good idea,
reloc:mng th at is really not go in g 10 so lve the problem . TI1e curren t access is nol going 10 change at all , he
said. You will come in to the site just as ii is now, we :ire no t goi ng to change i i wha1 soeve r. So, in our
minds. lite pa rking cond:tion that is there 110\\ isn ·1 re:i ll r impa cting 1he pa rking adjace nt 10 the shops.
Council ~l crnbe r Moo re said excep1 tha t you added the sta cking lan e. so the stack in g lane indicates so me
:mt1ci pa1ed chan gl·.
Mr . Be:mparlan t advised that stac king occu rs now. Wha t we arc ofTe rin g is a haven fo r stack ing. Right
now. whe n pe op le want 10 turn northbound or smu hbound on Loga n S1rce 1. the y onl y ha ve one lan e 10
s1ack in . We :ire go mg 10 give 1hcm 1wo. So :inybody who wants 10 ia ke a right iurn . ont o so u1hbound
Log :in Street 1s 1101 goi ng to be there very long. H:i lf as man y people are going 10 be there sta cked, in th e
left mm or the northbound Logan trcet. So in rea lit y 1he length of that sta ck is probab ly goi ng to be
shoncr under lhc propose d co ndit ion. because you h11ve free egress to so uthbound . Co unci l Me mber
Moore 1hanked Mr. Beauparla nt.
~,fa ye r Bradshaw s:iid I '4UCS t1 on any north rum out of there pe riod . bec:iusc it is o.lmosl impossib le.
Ma yo r Bradshaw asked 1flherc we re any othe r qu es1io ns.
ouncil Member Garrett sa id he ha s sev eral ques1ions rela ted to parkmg iss ues . l 1lunK th e iss ue th :u you
r:i ised, fro m my persp cc1ivc , ha s more to do with the in creased traffi c co mi ng into the si1 e. If they are
par ked m front of the store rig ht al the fo r ea s1em edge. 1hcy ma y ho ve trou bl e eve r gelling out of the spot.
I thmk 1l 1s not the pe ople leavm g. bu 1 1he peo ple comin g in thal co n cause the major prob lem
Mr. OeJupa rlant s1t11ed tha1 the y did do :i tra ffi c stud y fo r th is and subm.i ned it to th e Cit y for thei r review .
I thi nk 1hc thing 10 keep in mind, he said. is that even 1hough you ha ve the lntemat ionn l T ransporta 1ion
Engmeering M:inual s that show traffi c genera ti on. e1c .• mos l pe op le fuel 1heir cars on th e way 10 work. on
1he way home from wo rk or 1hey co mb ine thei r trips. It is ve ry rare 1ha1 yo u wou ld be wa tch in g a Bronco
game and 01 halft ime go ou11 0 put gas in the ~ar. II is 1101 a des 1inatio11 type of trip . So we will ha ve so me
increased traffi c, we hope . We hope some of tha t mcreast:d traffi c will sto p at the shops and also go 10 the
s1ore . We have had so me ad hoc studies of1hree different locations in the Fron! Ran ge. These are fairl y
new for Safeway. One tlung I fa iled 10 men 1io11, hi: s:i id. 1s th at we have bet:n invo lved in the design of69
of the se throughou t Co lorado . New Yl exico. Sou 1h Dakota nnd Wyoming . Most of th ese are in 1he Front
Range area . TI1 e studies tha1 were do ne of the three spots indicated tha( almost -W% of the ve hicles 1h11t
stopped :it the fueling center also stopped at the Safewa y store . I don ·, know 1f 1he se we re j usl ~afeway
s1ore s/S:ifcway fuel mg faciliucs or 1f there we re other shops. for 1ns1ancc. such as m Longmont Out I
would th mk . he said. that the more shops you h:i ve in the ce mer. the mo re likeli hood there is of having
combmed 1rips. We don·1 look at these as brand ne w stand alone tnps. where people arc co ming onto th e
property. ge nm g gas and lcavmg . Ce rtaml y there wi ll be 'io me of 1hat. I can 't say th at wo n'1 ha ppen. Mr .
Be:iup:ulant pomh:d out 1hat tins 1s the only west bound l,;.S. 285 proposed fueling faci lity. almos 1 in the
entire stre1 ch th rough Englewood . He noted that U.S. 285 is a hi ghl y tr:ive led road :rnd so it is so mething ,
nght now. 1h0 1 the people m Englewood don ·1 have . People who may 1ake U.S. 285 10 go home or 10 wo rk .
tro.vcling wes 1bound, go .::the.ad :ind ge1 gas and get back onto westbo und U.S. J.85 wi1ho u1 afTecting.
wha1soe"er. the L-:igan trcet access . The y ca n go m on 285 :1.nd lea\'e on 285 . So I don't think. he said .
that thi s is gomg 10 have majo r s1gmficn nt 1mpac1s in 1ernu of the access on Loga n Stree t and I 1hin k. wi1 h
the unpron:d cgn:ss. th:i.t the end re suh 1s. really. goi ng 10 be an 1mprovemen1.
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Counci l Member Garrell said I do not know the dimension/size of parking spo ts in Englewood , but I
nouced that yo u were re s1np1ng 10 make 1hem smaller . Me pointed out, ,u the Barne s ond No ble and
S1arbucks at Co um y LuH:. that yo u ca n't pork u c:ir in there . Everybod y takes two spots , beca use th e spaces
are 100 sma ll.
Mr . Beauparlant ad ,•ised th.it the ra te riglu no w. unde r the current Cit y Code ... which I th ink is bei ng
revised ... pe rmits up 10 40% co mpact pa rking , which is 7 ½ feet by 15 feet. Thi s was wrin en .i t the time of
the oil emb:irgo or so methin g, because a1 that time the ca rs we re ge llin g sma ll er, and that is not 1he c.i sc
onymorc . Now we have Expedi1io ns. Suburba ns and th ings lik e that. The exist in g dime nsion fo r a parki ng
spot is. I believe. 9 feet by 20 feet. Ms . Langon can verify that. he said . We are 1101 proposing to go
skm ncr that 9 ti:et and 9 fee1 by 18 fret is a standa rd space. ju st about throughout the cnllr: Front Range .
So we :i re proposi ng spac es that yo u ca n nctuull y use and yo u can still ge t ou t of the ca r without havin g 10
bang the one nexl 10 yo u.
Co unci l Membe r G.i rrctt said 1hi: parking th.it is right on the e.isrcm part of thi s site. whirh is sort of on the
01hcr side of th e .:irculation p.11tem. see ms 10 be stra nded parking .
Mr. Beauparl:.ml said it is str:inded unl ess you want to make it emplo yee p.irking and tha t is t~l)i call y what
th ey do . I wou ld .is sume that Safeway would be willing 10 do th.it Anchors of most ce nter'j wi ll make sure
tha1 their emp lo yees park in the :ireas that the cus tomers aren't as lik ely to park in.
Co uncil Member Garre n said you ulso mentioned that th ere will be an anendant, which inc rease s safe ty
co ncems. But what we saw was that the atte nda nt will be leavi ng at midni ght , so during 1he period that you
so rt of expect that safely wi ll be more of a conce rn. 1here wo n't be an attenda111 there .
Mr . Be aupa rlant said exac tl y, th at 11 is unlikely 1ha 1 1hcre wo uld be a 24 hour aucndo nt He co nm1 en1ed
1ha1 Safewa y ma)', for their ~4 hour stores. have an attendan t at all time s. Blll , he said , my point is that
ri ght now there is nobody out there and at leas t for an ex1ended pe riod of time during the day. com pared 10
right now. 1herc woulrt be so mebod y ou t there .
Cou ncil Member Gan ~It said 1hen there is no a111icipat irm 1hat they will go to a 24 hou r attend ant.
Mr. Beauparlant sa id they wi ll have 24 hour fuel ing , but nght now what Safeway typi call y dots is ope rat e
1he kiosk as an atte nded facili ty duri ng the same hours 1ha1 the store is open .
Co undl Member Ga rrell said the las 1 question I have is in regard to ligh t shidding, because thl!se thi ngs
1end to blare out a \Ol of light.
Mr . Beauparlant said we arc defi nu cly not de signing 1hat. our light in g plan is to ha ve all of the canopy
li gh1s be flush moumcd. no i)rotruding lenses, we are not rea ll y addi ng any site li ght ing a; all . We ma y be
reloca ung one. he sa id. but we are not going to be having this big brig ht th ing ou t there .
Council Memb er \Volosyn as ked if there has been any di scussio n about increasing th e names on the
marquee .
Mr. Beauparla nt said no. there ha s11 ·1. The re:1so n fo r that is that the shops themselves arc not a pan of thi s
propcny, they are on a different. separate propeny . The parcel 1ha1 is ~hown on the plan is the propcny tha t
,s owned by Safeway. he explai ned. and 1he signa gc onl y applies to the Safeway store and the Safeway
fue\111g . So. he noted. it hos not been a discuss ion ttem at nil to add off pre mi ses ad ve nis 111 g :1nd I am not
even sure 1t 1s all o,,ed by Code .
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Co unci l Memb er Yurchick said he had a que s1ion . I am 1101 sure ifit is fo r Mr . Be:mpa rlant or fo r Ci ty
Anorney Bro1zm:m . It goes back to my earlier quesuo n. If this does n't work out. can we require them to
clean-up the sil r so we do n ·1 have an aba ndoned gas sta tion sitt ing on the co mer of Logan and 285 ?
City Attorney Brotzman sai d yo u can add a co ndi tio n to that effect.
Ma yo r Bradshaw said it so unds like yo u wa nt 10 add th at co ndi tion. Co un ci l Membe r Yu rchick Sil id I
wo ul d like 10, but I don·, know what th e re st of 1hc Cou nci l wa nts.
Mayor Brads how 3skcd fo r Co unci l's co mmen ls.
Co un cil Member \V olosyn sa id that is fine
Counci l Member Garren CO'!un cnted th:H th ey can consider it whe n the is sue co mes up . as this !sonly the
pub lic heari ng.
Mr . Cla yton a~kcd if it wo uld be appropria te fo r him to add re ss the comment .
Ma yor Bradshil w sai d yes.
Mr. Clayton said I hear what you arc say in g and my onl y co nce rn wo uld be from o rea l estat e perspective ,
th at we wo ul d still ha ve the abili ty to , poten ti all y. subleose that to another user in the ev ent it does n't make
ii as a Safew:i y sta tion. It is not inco nce ivabl e that we mi ght nego tia te :m ag reeme nt wit h, for exampl e.
Exxo n Oil. to co me in nnd sublea se th at spa ce . he sai d. or so me 01her type of tenant 1ha1 mi ght to.k e
adv.i nt agt! of the fo ci lilies 1ha1 are the re and ii may not be a fuel s1a1i1Jn. In te rms of yo ur co nsidern tion of
1h::11 type of req uirem ent. he said . please keep in mind that we wo uld like 10 mai nt.:iin fl ex ib ility from a rea l
c:st.:i1e perspec tive .
Cou nci l Me mber Garrett said fro m a rea l estate perspective, i think what we wou ld envis ion that 1here is a
period oft1me. 1ha1 we co uld say if it stays dark for x amo un t of time i1 wo uld have to be cleaned up . He
no 1ed we have do ne this wi th one of ou r 1enan1s in a slightl y different cn mext. It is not lik e da y one yo u go
da rk and day two yo u have 10 clc:tm. Thc:rc is a period where it woul d loo k like it is goi ng lo end . That
wou ld give yo u the fl c:xib il ity du ring the interim to co me back to the City and disc uss it .
Mr. Clo.yton sai d I understand the co nce rn and if yo u co uld balan ce th ose two th ings. that is what we wo uld
ask.
Co uncil Mc:mbe r Grozuhs said she did ho ve .i conce rn about the ca nopy taki ng awa y the view of th e other
stores be hind it. I did sec lhat th ere could be an iss ue wi th not bei ng ab le to sec th e shops there . So. she
so.id . I would like 10 have Jan Johnson, perhaps , look int o this, if th at wo uld be poss ible.
Dave L:iwrence said I would like 10 1alk obou1 that issue, si nce ap pareml y it is impossib le 10 include our
name on the ma rquee. I would like 10 just go into so me of rhe concerns I have . Vis ib ilit y of the sig ns, I
have do ne a stud y on II, the canopy wo ul d take our visib ilit y fr om the street from 1.9) seconds to .91
seconds. So yo u would be ab le 10 see our sign for hal fas much of 1he time. Also the glare of th e li ght fro m
the canop y. In the se books that I prese nted 10 the zo nin g meetin g we had co lor pictures of th e ot her
"'nfeway fuel ing sta1i ons o.nd how it restric 1ed the vis ibility of th e signs ond now we hove a new sub shop
Outzno·s ove r there o.nd yo u ca n sec th:11 sign for twen ly seco nds when yo u arc rlriv mg down Hampden and
tha t ,s new com petili on for me . ;'low my vistbili ry is cu 1 m half. I hav e a picture drawn up . ifnn yo ne
wan ts to sec !In s, he sai d. and I have the parking lot con fi gura ti on. Does anyo ne wa nt 10 see that or sho ul d
I make copies'!
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Cou ncil Member Grazu lis asked Mr. Lawrence how long he had been in busi ne ss a11ha1 si te. ~I r
Lawrence said 12 yea rs.
Co un cil Member Yurchick as ked Ms . Lang, ,fit is trne . :a1 you can't have off•s ll '! sig nage in Englewood.
Ms. Langon sa,rf ye s. typically, what we ca ll thi rd pany signs. arc 1101 allowed . However . thi s is u P D and
11 does crea te th e tkx1bili ty and wi thin tha t zo ne distric1 11 co uld be addressed. on ly for th is one dis trict.
Also. 1fCounci l \,ou ld li ke. she said. we can co me up \\ith so me langua ge fo r a go dJrk clause that wo ul d
addres s lhc clrn opy, the pump s and 1hc fuel 1:mk s.
oun cll M1.·mbcr Ga1Tcll aske d if they wouldn 't w:::uu to have the lighting standord in there. as w-:11 .
Ms . Lon ga n exp l::u ncd that 1hat wou ld be addressed w11 h111 the building permit process .
Council Mem ber Yurc hick asked if Safeway wou ld be op posed 10 panicip:ll ing in ma rq ue e signage wi th
the othr.r shops .
Mr. C:1yton said we would 1101 be opposed. in foci we would be in favor of that. He stoled that the reason
11 lta 'i not bee, bro ugln up is beca use our .:i ss ump tion was that it w.:is not po ss ibl e. But to the t:xte nt the
PUD ca n be , ,ri nen. he said. such that the re c.:i n be addi uon.:il signa ge fo r th e marquees fnr the shop s. t am
fairl y ccr1ain ·.h:11 we can work wi1h Mr. Dc cky and Th e Shops at Hampde n to work out a fin.:inci.:il
a1n11ge mcn1 to do 1h01. So, we wou ld be in fa vo r of that ifit is all owed .
Cou ncil Membe r Grn zuli s s.:i id she h.:id one 01her que sti on for Jan Johnso n. Are the re any ap pl ica tions 10
put our fomous green wrought iron fe nc ing .:i roun d th ere'? I don't know whe th er ii woul d be .:i possibi lit y 10
put the fe nce in. to tie it imo Englewood.
Ousincs s & Rede,·elopme nt Coo rd imu or John so n said you ore ral kin g abou t the omamenr al iron 1h.:it we
ha\'e as part of our :1 1al ys1 Program. This last yc.:i r the program was expa nded to include Hampden . We
do 1101 h.:ive an y appli ca tions fo r th .i t site spec1fic.:i ll y. but we ha\'e ha d so me applica 1ions fo r that kind of
work, so it wo uld be ovui lab lt!.
Co uncil :vkmber Grazulis said th at is ok.:iy, it was jus1 another idea .
Ma y, :;haw th anked Ms. Jo hn son.
Ma yur llradshaw :isked 1f1 hcre were .:in y ot her ques ti ons.
Council Member Yu rchick .:i sked how the y would add ress 1he s1gnage issue .
Ma yo r Brad shaw ~:ud she 1houglu ~<ls. Lan gon just said s!.e wou ld inclu de th at. Is 1hat co 1Tecl'! Ms .
Langon s:ud she w,1 uld co me up with so me langu.:ige .
Cuy Attorne y Brotzma n sa id in your next po cke t you will ha ve pro posed language for sig nage and lighti ng.
the issues yo u have just discu ss ed .
Council Member Yurcl 11ck aske d ifn would incl ude the clean-up issues also . City Anom ey Brotzman said
yes .
Ci ty All omcy Drotz man s1a1cd that the ordinan ce will rcmom 1be same. bcenusc 1ha1 was what was
forwa rded from Pl :rnnmg ::ind Zo ning .:i nd then you ca n make 1110 11011s to add whi chever cond i1 ion s you
wo uld hke .
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Coum:1\ ~kmbcr ~loo rc said he ha d a ques uon aboul 1hc process. I wou ld Ilk -: to undersland hener why
so me uf1hc p,:uking nhernatives wo n'1 \\'O rk. m u:rms of1h e Lo1111 11 ac ce ss. Is 1h.11 somethin g I JUSt go 10
La dd Vos tr y w11h to lry 10 ge1 more comfo r1a ble with 1he iss ue ? uy M:ma ger Se :u s que stione d whether
~·Is. Lango n cou ld re spo nd to th at.
In n.-sponsc to Ma yor Bradshaw. Council Member ~foore expl:li ned that, specifi call y he wos concerned
11bout ac ce ss 10 1he shops in the eo.s 1em p:in .
City Ma nJ gcr ~}cars sugge sled Publi c Wo rks co uld re spond 10 Co un cil Me mber Moore's conce rn s.
~'Ir. Ilcau r,.ulant s:iid be fo re we go on 10 :iddre ss Mr. Moore 's co ncern I wou ld like 10 address Mr.
Yurd1i ck ':; quesuo n about 1he signage , As Mr. Clayt on said, we \\'Ould be willing 10 do 1h,u. however. I
would hkc to .1::k that we cC1uld :.hen enten:iin an increase in the Iota! square foo 1agc for the PUD . He not ed
that we hani i. p,eny ti ght si gn package righ l now :ind if we cou ld just look :u po ss ib ly :iddi ng so me square
footage for 1he 1enan1s. if 1h is is. m fact . the direction we go . f think Ms . L:i ngo n co uld probabl y address
thal. he said .
~fo yor Brndshaw sa id I think thal will be addressed.
Se 111or Plann~r Lango n asked Mr . Moore ifhe was co nce rn ed about 1he parking sp:ices that wou ld be nc:ir
the ne w wh eelc hair ramp . Coun cil Member Moore said :hat is correct Ms . Langon advised thal 1hose are
e.<ti s1ing spaces. Thi s is the same iss ue. she said. whe1her it be the two lanes like it is now or d.e three
slacki ng !:mes. So for anyone co min g m. ingressi ng from Logan . it will be the same. It is no different from
wha1 current I)' exis 1s. The reason the access point is 1101 being moved down now ... as Mr. Be:iupilrlant
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ml'nliuncd and we did di sc uss 1h:1t 1hroug h our de velop ment reviews ... is th at it changes the sta cking for 1he •
signal ligln . So . she noted, 1hc entry pom 1 th ere is. prcny much se1. Trying to mo ve 1h11t changes the
111te rscc11011 and chan ges the pa rki ng. We arc preuy much s1uck wi th it , she said .
Co uncil Ml'mber Moore said wh c1her or nol I am right with my concern s for parking, you are saying that
we . as a Cit y. can't ha ve the entry point moved down because of 1he in te rsectio n at Logan an d 285? Ms.
Langon s:lld thnl is right. ii affe cts the stac king. The Traffi c Di vision of Public Works reviewed 1hat and
reco mmended th at 1he entry point not be moved .
~'layor Bradsh:iw said I have a co ncern :ibou t th e left mm go ing eas t out of1 herc . Is tha1 acro ss a double
yell ow lin e'? Ms. Lango n said nt.>I al tha t poin t You can mak e 11 lcft ha nd rum fro m there no w.
Ma yor Il rJd sha w said! wuuld think that ifyuu had two car movements versus three, th111 tha l wo uld help
pe ople ge1 fr om !h ose spa ces over. Rilther th.in nego1i:11e 11 righ t rum lane, 11 left tum lane and th en :inother
entr y.
Coun cil Member Ga rren said. re ga:11mg the spots Colin:il Member Moore is conc erned abou1. if you ore
bac kin g out of tha t spot. you arc pro bably onl y ba cking into cars 1hat arc co ming in . Ma yo r Br:idshaw s:iid
tha1 1s tme . I sec what you are sayin g.
Council ~•lember Moore said it is tight. Ma yor Bradsh:i w sai d it is awful. I park there all th e time . Mr.
~,toore s111ted 1t 1s bad now and I JUSI can ·1 be lieve tha t the re 1s not £Di ng to be incre ased traffi c wi th this .
unders1and !ht.' idea s about the Safe way customers . but I do belie ve. th.it for the oven.JI be nefi t of th e
busmess cs th:n this is go ing to in rcasc 1ra f!i c. I j ust thmk that th:11 comer there is now go ing 10 be worse.
he sai d. pnmanly bt:c ausc of the cars turning m off of Logan . It i:. go in g to be very hard 10 pull your c:ir
out at' that spo l. That 1s :i con ce rn. he s.i1 d. •
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Ms . L:mgo n adv ised tha1111111 has bee n a co nce rn or staff s all along . Again . 1he "l'raffi c Oi,•is 1011 re viewed
ii and fd 1 th 11t it is kmd of 1he le sser of two evils. but that it does ac tuall y im prove the si tuation with 1he
two i:gress 1,:rn es .
Mayor Bradsha w said reall y, it improved it? Ms . L:rngon said yes, bec:iusc yo u hove increased slacking .
Otherwise, curreml y, the parking lane that is furthes t CilSt, there is an ex it ri ght the re, so you have dull
who II.' lin e of trnlli c 1h11.t is in one si ngle lane , ei1hcr turning left or ri ght and then yo u have anothe r lane that
is 1rying 10 co me m. trying 10 mm out. So acn1ally we arc re movi ng th.i.t one exit point to get to the egress
lane. moviag it around and providing lon ge r stackin g dis 1ance nnd two Innes 10 sla ck . So th :u an yone
makin g a le n hand tum does n't impede pe ople tha t are 1ryi ng to exit 10 the ri ght.
Ma yo r Bradshaw th:inkcd Ms. Lan go n fo r cle:uing 1h:11 up .
Maynr Bradshaw :isked if there were any other questions . There we re none.
COUNC IL MEMBER GARRETT MOVED. AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC
flEAJUNG TO GATHER CITIZEN INPUT ON COUNCIL BILL NO . 38. APPROV ING THE
SHIJPS AT HAMPDEN AND LOGAN PLANNED UN IT DEVELOPMENT (SAFEWAY PUD).
Ayes : Council Members Nab holz, Moore . Garren, Wolosyn ,
Yurchick. Grazu li s, Brad shaw
Nays: None
Motion carried and the Publi c Hearing closed.
Mayor Bradshaw :idvi se d 1hat Counci l will not be voli ng on thi s thi s evening, ii will be co ming back to
Co unci l at their secc.nd meeting this month .
Ma yor Brad sha w thanked everyo ne fo r thei r input and for co ming .
10. Consenl Agen da
(a) Approval of Ordinance s on First Reading
There we re no ;,drlitional items submiued for approval on fir st reading . {S ee Age nda Item 11 • Re gular
Agenda .)
COUNC'L Mc.~EI • GARRETT MOVED , Al''ID IT WAS SECONDED, TO APPROVE
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS JO (b) (I) und (ii) AND 10 (c) (I).
{b) Aoprov al ofOrdin.rn ces on Second Rea ding
(i) ORD INANCE NO . 40 , SERIES OF 20\12 (COUNC IL BILL NO. 40,
INT RODUC ED BY COUNC IL MEMBER GARRETT)
AN ORDINANCE APPROVING "AMENDMENT NO . TW C' TO CITY OF ENGLEIVOC : • ?OLICE
OFF ICERS PENS IO N PL AN (AS AME NDED AND RES V fED 1'FFECT IVE JANUARY I. 1999 .)"
(ii) ORDI. AN CE NO. 41. SERIES C'1 2t'02 (COUKCIL BILL NO . 4 1,
INTROD CED BY COUNC IL MEMBER GARRETT )
AN ORDI NA:-ICE APPROV ING "AME NDME NT NO . TWO TO CITY OF ENGLEWOOD
FIREFIG'.HERS PE 'SION PLA N (AS AME NDED AND RESTATED EFFECT IVE JANUARY 1,
1999 .)"
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(c) Rcso\u 1io ns anrl Motions
Ii) PURC H,1SE OF MOBI LE AI R AP l'ARAT S EQU I PMENT FROM
,\MERICA. LafR ,1t-;CE T R,\NSIVEST IN T HE AMO , 'T OF $6 1. 74.00 .
Mayo r Brads haw asked 1f th ere was any discuss ion. There was none ,
Vo te r es ult s :
Co uncil Mem be rs Nab holz, Moore. Garre tt. WolMvn,
Yu rchick. G ro.zu li s. Brads haw ·
No ne
Moti on carr ied .
11. Reg ular Age nda
(a} App rov al of Ordinances on First Readin g
(i) and (ii ) Director f-o nda pre sente d a reco mrn cndo tio n fr om the Utilit ies
Departm ent 10 adopt a bill for rm ordi nance appro ving Licen se Agreemen ts fo r Encroachments along the
Cit y Di1ch fo r the Sant a Fe Widenin g Proj ccl and a re co mmenda tio n fr om the Util ities Dep artme nt to :ido pt
a bill for an ordinance :iut horiz ing :i Joint Us e Agree ment fo r th e City Di1c h with th e Co lorado Dep :utment
ofTr.ms port auo n. li e exp lained tha t the nex t 1wo 11cms are in1er-re lci tcd , We ho ve reac hed an agrc emen1
wit h 1hc li ig hway Dcpn11 men1 ove r a di spu1 c on the seni ori ty of the City Di tch over the Santa Fe Co rrid or.
In the ag ree ment nei the r party is admin ing 1hat it is seni or or not. We arc j us1 lening 1ha1 iss ue die while
we reso lve th e iss ue of wh ether th e l-l ig hway De part me nt ca n ex pa nd in 10 the Cit y Di1ch ri ght-o f-way. In
di ffe rent loc auons, he 1101cd , the City Di 1ch overlap s or 1he l-l ighwa y Dc pa11 rnen1 overlaps. so we have j us1
postpo ned :my argument. be c-a use we do n'r thin k there wi ll he one anyway. So. the one agree ment wi rh 1he
Co lora do Dcpa nment ofTran sporta 1ion basic all y snys we won 't address that iss ue now, bu1 each pa ny will
reserve all the ir rig ln s.
Ma yo r Brads haw :1s kcd if she co ul d ask a ques ti on on that. That is Age nda Item 11 (a) (ii). she said . Dol!s
1ha1 impact ::111 y1hing they did a1 Aspen Gro\'e, do they ha ve to move 1ha1 ag ain'!
Di rec tor Fonda said th at. ba sica ll y, 1hey arc going to pipe the City Ditc h for a I 000 feet and in the Aspen
Grove area 1ha1 is alre:1dy don e.
Ma yo r 0radshaw saiJ oka y. So. th ey don't ha ve to go back and do stufT! Dire ctor Fonda said no .
Director Fo nd a ex pl ain ed that thi s is j ust the ordinance all ow ing 1he li cens ing fo r all of tlu s Qnd they then
prov ide a 1000 fee t of pip e. tha1 they wi ll co 11s1ru c1 where it is open ditch now . So, ~layor Brad shaw sa id ,
we ore ge tt ing rh is done free . Direc tor Fonda said yes. it is a pr crty good deal. Ma yo r Bradshow agreed
that it 1s a good de al.
Director Fo nda s:iid It is a good dea l bcc:1u se we want to get th at 1000 fee 1 of pip e. as that gives us rh e
abtli ty 10 ru n w:uer la 1er duri ng the win ter. Tins whu er we wo n'! be able 10 do it the whole wint er. while
the y are insrnllin g it . but th :u will bi: :i benefi t to Englewood. That is in the second part , he said. and th at 1s
\\'it h the Dcp an ment ofTr:inspor1 :1 1ion. No w. he said , eve n 1houg h we haven't agreed on whose se nio r and
w: bo 1h hove rcs t:m:d our rig ht s. we have :ig rei:d on how we ore goi ng to do 11 and we are very co nfi de nt,
wi 1h the ma terials 1hey :i re pu ll ing m and the locauons. that we wi ll be ab le to de al wi 1h tha t and it won't be
:1 proble m.
Director Fo nda advi sed that 1ht: !J thcr itt:ms :ire wu h AT&T. QW EST and Pu blic Service :in d they do co me
m 111 second place. bc::causc 1hcy arc under license wi 1h the Hi ghway Dcp anment :ind th e Hig hway •
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Depa r.m cm the n req uires them to be li cense d wi th us. So. he said . the oth er item 111 1hc fi rs l b1ll 1s 1hc
agre..-mcnt fo r encroachment li cen ses wi1h 1ho e thre e utilit ies and 1hcy lm ve ag reed 1u 1h1u and 1h1.·y hJ\C
accep ted our stand ard li cense .
Co unci l Memb er Garren slated that I am going 10 re cuse mys elf from Age nda It em 11 (a) (1). because I um
cu rren tly emp loyed by AT&T Broadband.
~l:i yn r Brad shaw asked if ther e were any olhcr qu es ti ons fo r Dhe ctor Fonda . There were none.
CO UNC IL MEMBER WOLOSYN MOVED . AND IT WAS SEC ONDED. TO APPROVE AG EN D,\
ITEM 11 (a l (i ) -COUNC IL BI LL NO. 43.
COUNC IL BILL NO. -1 3, INTRODUCED BY CO UNC IL MEM BER WOLOSYN
A BILL FOR AN ORD INANCE APP ROVING THREE LI CENSE AGREEMENTS WITH PUBLI C
SE RVICE CO MPA NY . AT&T BR OA DBA ND AN D QWES T TO PLACE TH EIR UT ILITIE S \V ITIH
AND AL ONG CITY DITCH AS A RESULT OF HI GHWAY IMPROV EM ENTS ON SANTA FE FROM
CO NT Y LI NE ROA D TO PR INCE STRE ET IN LITTLETO N.
Vo le r es ults:
Moti on carri ed .
Ayes :
Nn ys;
Abs la in:
Counci l Mem bers Nab holz. Moo re, Wo losyn. Yurc hick. Grazulis.
Bradshaw
No ne
Counc il Membe r Garre n
COUNC IL MEMBER WOLOSYN MOVED . AND IT WAS SECONDED , TO APPR OVE AGE:'<DA
IT D I 11 (a) (ii) -COUNC IL BILL 1 0 . 44 .
COUN CIL BILL NO . -1-1 . INTROD UC ED BY COUNC IL MEMB ER WOLOSYN
A Bill FOR AN ORD I ANCE APPROV ING A JOI NT USE AGREEMENT FOR THE CIT Y DITC H
RI GHT-OF-IV 1\ Y WITH THE CO LORADO DEPARTME NT OF TRA NS PORTATI ON FOR
HI GHW 1\ Y l~IPROVE MENT S ALO NG THE CIT Y Dll CH ALONG SANTA FE DRI VE FROM
COUN TY LINE ROAD TO PRINCE STREET IN LI TTLETON , COLORADO .
Vole re s ults:
~·l01ion ca rr ied .
Aye s: Co unc il Memb e1-1 '.'J ~b holz, Moore. Gn rren, WoloS)1I,
Yurchick, Gra ;;.1i,·1 Brad show
Na ys: No ne
Director Fond:1 said he wirnted to co mp li ment the City Attorn ey's Office . Nancy Reid. he said. worked fo r
o lo ng time on tlu s. 11 has been several years and she ho.s ne go 1ia1cd a very diffi c ul t agre ement. ;\1ayor
Br:idshaw said that is incred ible.
(iii) Bu si ne ss & Rede velo pm ent Coo rd inator Johnson prc sc med n reco mm endation
t'ro m 1hc Co mmu1111 y Deve lop ment Department to ado pt a bil l for an ordinan~e ame nd ing sections of the
Englewood ;\'1u mcipa l Code pertaining to Sidewnlk Sale s 10 allow the inclu sion ofa Fanner 's Market. We
arc very forrun:He. she said. and we are very exc ited 1hat Englewo od now h:is a Sa1urday Farmer"s Ylark et .
II is a grea t ac ti vi ty. At the \'C ry fir st ma rket the y had 22 ve ndors and we ex pec t th ,11 tn ey '"i:: :. .. ni all y get
more as fall goe s on. as so me of the mountain ma rket s will shut down a nd some of thos e peop le wi ll be
co nun g to Englewood . It is a great activi ty, it s synerg y, 11 attril ~ts people to 1he sne and it is illso pro vid in g
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so me revenue to 1he City through the sale of so me durab le goods. 1 ot everything is subject 10 sa les ta:<.
but 1he ones that are will haven snles 1a:< li cense . We arc very e;<cited ab C'ut thi s projcc l und then it wa s
brought to ou r u11e111 ion tha t Farmer's Market's need 10 be included in th e ordinances th :u .ire gove rnin g
public saks and pub lic even ts in the publi c right-of-way. That is why we are here tonigh t, she said, we
would like 10 recommend appr0 \•al of th is ordimmcc tha t amends our Mu nicipa l Code to include Fnrmcr ·s
Market 's .
M::i yor I3rJdshaw asked who procure d the Farmer's Market. Ms . Johnso n said that she, und the Co mmunity
Development Depanment ha ve been worki ng wit h 1he market si nce ear ly th is sprin g.
Mayor Brad sh::iw said C\'erybody I ta lk to just thin ks its gre at.
Ms. Johnson said it is very e:<ciung . They are ve ry e:<c iled abou t Englewood. they are exci ted about th e
loc:uio n and. in foc i, !hey are co nvince d th ilt the piazza wn s designed specifica ll y for thi s ki nd ofac1i vi ty .
Mayor call ed fo r the motion .
CO UNC IL MEMBER GRAZULIS MOVED , AN D IT WAS SEC ONDED. TO APP ROVE AGEN DA
ITEM 11 (>) (Ill)-COUNCIL BILL NO. 42.
COUNC IL BILL NO. 42. INTRO DUCE D BY COUNC IL MEMBER GRAZULIS
A BILL FOR A, ORDINA CE AMENDING TITLE 7, CHAPTER 68 . SECTION 6: TITLE 11 ,
CHAPTER 3. SECT ION J(B): A D TITL E 16, CHAPTER 4, SECT IO NS 10, 12, AND 19 ; AND
CHAPT ER 8, OF THE ENG LEWOOD MUN ICIPAL CO DE 2000, PERTAIN ING TO PUBLIC
SIDEWA LK SA LES OR FARMER'S MARKET .
Voce results:
Ayes: Co un ci l Members Na bholz, Moore , Garren, Wolosyn.
Yurchick. Grazuli s. Bradshaw
Nays: None
Mono n earned .
Ms . Johnson th:tnked Cou nci l fo r thei r time .
Co uncil Me mber Grazu hs th anked Ms . Joh nso n.
(b) Appro va l ofOrd in:mces on Second Reading
There we re no additiomll items submitted fo r approval on second reading. (Sec Age nda item 10 -Conse nt
Agenda.)
{c) Reso lutions and Motions
(1~ Ci ty Anomey Bro1zmt1n presen ted a recommendil tio n fr om the Human
Resources Dcp.inment adopt a resolu ti on removing a perso n from the list or hearin g officers and appointing
11 new person 10 1hc lis t of persons eligib le for .ippoint ment as he:uing office rs fo r discip lina ry and me rit
appeal s. We have had ::i. reques t from Mr. Mac:Lc:m 10 be removed fro m our heari ng officer list. He is
going to be come an aut hor and he wi ll be writ ing o. book fo r the next year . We .ire recommendin g John
D1F alco to replace ~'Ir. Mn cle.1 11 on the hea ring officer li st.
RESOLUTIO N NO . S4. SERIES OF 1002
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A RESOLLTI ON RE~IOV ING A PER ON FRm l T HE HEARI NG OFFI CE RS LI ST AND TH E
APPOI NTMENT OF A NEW PER ON TO T HE LI T OF PER ONS ELIG IBLE FOR AP PO INTMENT
AS HEARI NG OFFICER S FO R DISC IPLI NA RY AN D MERIT APP EAL .
CO UNC IL MEMBER WOLOSYN MOVED. AND IT WA S E ONDED . TO APP ROVE AGENDA
ITEM 11 (c) (ll • RESOL UT ION NO. 84. ERIES OF 2002 .
Motion carried .
Ayes: Co un ci l Members Na bho lz. Moore. Ga rrett. \Volosyn,
Yurchick. G r11 zulis. Ora dshaw
:iys: No ni!
(ii) Ci ty Atlomey l3 ro1zn:n n prese ru cd 3 rccommcnd11 1io n fro m the Human
Resource s Depa r1me111 10 ::i ppoint. by mo1ion . ::i Hea rm g Offi cer m the Jeff Herriot Di scip linary Appe::il.
COUNC IL MEM BER WOLOSYN MOVED . AND IT WAS SE ONDEI>. TO Al'l'OINT JOHN
DIFALCO AS A HEA IU NG OFFICER IN T HE .JEFF HERRI OT DISCIPLINA RY APPEAL.
Ayes : Co unci l ).icmbcrs Nab holz. Moo re. Ga rren . Wolo syn.
Yurchick . Grazu li s, Bradshaw
Nays : No ne
Mo 1io n ca rri ed.
(iii) Assis 1:in t Cit y Mana ger Flaheri y prese nte d a reco mmendati on from the Cit y
Ma nager 's Otlke 10 appro\'c a motion sell in g 5cplcniber 2 1. 2002 :1s 1he date fo r :i S1dew:i.lk Sa le Even 110
be h!!ld by the Ci tyCcnt er Merchant s Associ ation . He :i.dvi scd 1hat earlier thi s year Cit y Co unc il approve d
1wo publi c sid ewalk sales evems for 2002, June 8111 Jnd Aug ust 24 111• We hav e :i n orgoni zn 1io n of
merchant s. in th e CityC cntcr area. who have rcq~e s1ed a publ ic side walk sales event for Sa turday.
Sept ember 21 11 as a spc ci al celc bratio n eve nt to in troduce the se busint:ss cs to Eng lewood and to the
surrou ndi ng res idents . Because !hey were no1 for mall y organized ea rlier this year. they did not have an
opportunit y 1'0 re qui:st a publ ic si dewa lk sales e\'e nl , so we are requ es 1in g Se pte mber 2 1" as a public
sid ewa lk sale s ev ent da y.
ouncil Me mber Yurchick aske d whe re thi s wo uld be held. Mr . Flah erty advis ed 1h1 s 1s to be held al
Ci1yCe mer. our develop ment. We hove about 15 10 20 merch:i.nts tluu have formed ... informall y al thi s
poi nt. but they pl:in 10 fo rmali ze a me rcha nt's org1mi z:11ion. One of1 he 1hings the y ore pl ann ing is a
cclebrntion on the 21 ~, that will mcl udc enten:i.imr,enl and a num be r of other activ hics. one of wh ic h the y
woul d like 10 be a sid ewalk sal e.
COUNC IL )IH ID ER GRAZULIS MOVE D. AND IT WAS SECONDEI>. TO AP PROVE AGENDA
ITEM 11 (c) (iii)· A MOTIO N SETT ING SEPTEM BER 21. 2002 AS THE DATE FOR A
SID EWALK SALE EVENT TO DE HELD DY THE CITYCENTER )IERCHANTS
ASSOCIATIO N.
Ayes : Co un cil '.\!embers Nabhol z. Moo re. Ga rren. \V o\osyn .
Yurchick. Gra.zulis. Bradsha w
1 ays : No ne
Moti on ca rri ed.
M:i yo r Brl dshaw 1hankcd '.\Ir. Flahcny.
11 . General Di scuss io n
(a ) ~loyor's Choice
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(1) Ma yor Bradshaw snid when you are go ing down Windcnnerc and yo u arc on the
so uth side of O:<fo:-d. there is no stripin g 1hi:re and peo pl e keep trying lo line up with 1hc stripe s on the
11or1h sid e. It is vel'y ..:o nfo sing , she said , and I watch people cut all the way over 10 get onto Oxfo rd. So .
can we get 1ht: lane 3 do wn there striped'!
Co uncil ~frmber G::mcn -~ked ir she was talking about the intersection or all or Windennere . Mayo r
Bradshaw said Windcnncre. as Windermere isn't striped at all . lfwc striped Windermere thn.1 wou ld be a
good s1:m ond 1ha1 wo uld slop the drit)ing . It is ve ry confu sing by 1hc light r.iil stalion . City Mana ger
Sca rs said okay .
{b) Co uncil Members' Choice
(i) Council Member Grazulis asked ir, a11he September 16th meeting they :ue going
to hav e, n:g arding speeding in residen1iol areas, the y wi ll address !he Alive al 25 Progrnm . Ci1y Manager
Sears said 1ha1 Director Ross will be puning that on and I will check with him 1omorrow.
Ms . Grazulis s11id I just wa nted to make sure ii was not forgotte n.
(ii) Council Member Yurchick said 1he 30 days is up on the extension for 1he
Skerri n House. Do you wa nl to brin g th at up again 1onight? Mayor Bradshaw said sure.
COUNCIL MEMDEll YURCH ICK MOVED , AND IT WAS SECONDED , TO RAZE TIU
SKERR ITT HO USE.
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Co unci l Member G:azu li s s11id I am not quite sure we nre ri ght !here with moking a decision thi s evening so •
fa st. Wi: did receive one offe r, she sa id, and he is goi ng to be putting ii in writing and we sho uld p1 obab ly
honor that.
Ma yo r Bradsha w asked if anyone else wan ted 10 spellk 10 1his issue .
Co uncil Member Garrett soid part or the decisio n on whether we w:i nl to acceJ,' •11 ,,,r one .. I think the
numbers didn"t quite make sense 10 me . Thai means for S 1),000,00 we are givmg up 1hc: property. whic h
we thought cou ld have 11 value at so me point in time as 11 park or whatever . So thnt wo uld be p;in or the
de cis ion making process ,
~fayor Brad shaw said she wou ld like to go back 10 her archival memory. Whe n we tryi ng to get rid or fire
s1a1ions in 1he eightie s, she said. we jOld a fire s1 a1ion 10 a glass company out in Sherid:m . She pointed out
1h:u we so ld it for a ve ry n0minal fee and we go t killed . I just do not believe in selling land , 1h111 's va lued a1
a lot more. for S 13 .0 00 .00 . I have rea l problems with that . she said.
Co uncil ~•I embe r Yurchick said pan of the issue with him. too , is 1ha.1 he ma y have the S 13,000 .00 to bu y
the land . bu1 he doe sn ·1 ha ve 1he rest of the mone y 10 take care or the propeny or update it or do whatever.
Ma yo r Brad shaw so.id his cohorts 11re in 1ercs1ing .
Council Member Garrett said for S 13,000.00 1 c:m take ii. raze it and build a nice house o.nd se ll it .
Coun cil Mcmb '!r Grazulis said 1herc were some 01her options and I thoug h! it was quite interesting that a
\01 or the ci 1izc11s did say thnt we should go ahe:id :ind raze i1 nnd !hen come bnck in wi1h ci tize ns. as there
llre man y talented c111zcns in th e community , and do :i ca ll to reconstruct it 11s it was ... ll lWO room house .
And hnvc as much donated as possible , she said. and do it 01 a Int er dn1c .
Mayor Brad sha w asked 1f1hcre were an y ot her comments . •
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Counci l Member t\loon~ s:iid I was probabl y bemg ove r op 11mis1ic. 111 think ing 1h11t in 1his )0 da y period I
wo uld se c more d To rt 111 1erms of peop le co mmg forward and convmcmg us 1hat there we re funds
available . At the same time . he sa id. I am still co nni ctcd . Thc memo was ,•cry helpful 111 terms of la ying
thin gs out and I ha ve to admit. 10 the extent we can ge t a 75 "~ subsi dy, I 11 111 having trouble throwing in 1hc
towel.
Ma yo r Br:idshaw sn id my que stion is. a subsi dy to do wh:11 wi th 1h:11 buildin g?
Co uncil Member Yurc hick note d there is a big maybe on that subsidy 100.
Co uncil Member Gra zu li s said more mfornution mi gh t come fonh m ano ther co uple of week s.
Ma yo r Bradshaw s:iid f am SOIT)', but we can j ust bab y thi s along fo r years .• ot mnki ng a decision , is
makin g a decisio n.
Co un cil Member Yurchick s:i id the problem is that I thou gh! in 30 da ys so meo ne wou ld at least tak e 11
po si tion and a leg itima te gro up would be out there wi th so me plan or so me way to save it. but nobody
rea ll y ca me forward .
Mayo r Ora dshaw said and more than S 13,000 .00. Council Member Yurchick said yes .
Co uncil Member Mo ore ag reed that there arc a lot of ifs. But if wai t for the three to five mo nlh process ,
111 three to live mo nths 10 ha ve the ;i,;iswer ... ifi 1 is a 75% subsid y?
• Co u:1cil Member G:1 rre11 noted the app lication proce ss s1ar1 ed in Apri l.
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Assis tan1 City ~•lanager Flaherty exp lai ned that 1he periods for npplic:1 1io ns to the Co lorado Historica l
Socic1y for grants is October I ~1 and Apri l I w. It is very unlike ly. he said , tha t we can get :1 gran t, or even
put :1 gra nt toget her before October I". Pl us, in orde r 10 get any addi tiona l fu ndi ng, we pro bab ly need to
, Jmple1e the gr:mt we curren tl y have, whic h req uires app roxima tel y S 190 ,000.00 wo nh of ex penditu res, of
wl 11ch SS0.000 .00 is fu nde d by th e Colora do His torical Fun d. If we we re give n the go ahe:i d, we cou ld
probably co mple1e that by late thi s year or ea rly next ye.ar an d be able to apply in Ap ril fo r add itiona l
fundin g. To be ve ry hone st. he said . we wou ld prob abl y ne ed to have. :it least, alte rn atives fo r uses for the
Skerrin House ifwc wa nt ed ou r grant req ue st 10 be gh•en good co ns iderntion. We would have 10 h:ivc:, at
least. so me alt erna tiv es for use s th at 1hey wou ld need 10 review. Brn , yes. he poi nted out , we co uld ge t 10
the poi m. ifwe spell'. the do llars. 10 do a slabili zation anci close out the grant we have now. and we co uld
app ly 111 1\pnl of2003.
Council Member Mo ore asked how much we would have to inves t to fi nd ou t what th ey arc will ing to do
fo r a subsidy.
A!is1s1ant City ~lnnage r Flah ert y said w.-. ha ve a grant right now for S80.000 .00 and th:i t is fo r stabi lization .
Th e tota l proJe CI cos t 1s about S 196 ,000.00. In order fo r us to fund tha1. ,w have $40,000 .00 in a cu rr ent
appropri.a 1io n .a nd we J!so have S8 S.000.00 tha1 th e City ha s recei vect ~:-:.111 an insurance settle ment , but has
1101 appropria ted . If that we re to be :i ppropri:ued 10 the stabi liz:iuo n fund . he said . then th at project co uld e
co 111 ple1ed . The stabilization co uld be co mpkted and we co uld apply aga in in Apri l of 2003 fo r add iti onal
fundin g for co mplcuon of the entire project.
Co un cil ll.te mbc r ~vloo rc co mme nt ed tha t we have to spe nd a \01 of mone y to find out how serious our
panners are .
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Co uncil Member Wolosyn sa id I am rea dy 10 vole and la y !his mailer 10 res 1 tonigh1. but I j ust wa nt to
retu m to wh:11 I said ,,ay back whe n. when we just ha d a co nsensu s. I re spect ivel y ask stn ff 10 so meh ow
docume nt th!! buildin g, whet her thro ugh the digi1iz:11 ion process nnd or so me decent photos of the int erior
:md 1hc exte rior and so me of 1hc dc1t1ils of the imerio r. Th e dern il s where we all agre ed that there was
so meth mg abou t 1hem that moved us . I guess that is it she sai d. I move the question .
Ma yo r Brad sha w snid th e ques tion ha s bee n ca ll ed ,
Co un cil Me mbe r Yurchic:: asked ifhe couk' mak e one more la st s1atemcnt .
Ma yo r Bradsh:iw sn id th ere can be no more comment Cou ncil Member Yurclu r.k sa id oka y.
Council Member Grazulis said th at she just hnd one more co mment she wou ld like 10 nmk e.
Ma y~r Bradshaw said wait. pa rl i:ime ntary procedure .
Co un cil Member Grazuli s said it is a pi ggy ba ck on Ms. Wo losyn's co mment s.
Ma yo r Br.1dshaw s:ii d 110.
Council Member Grazuli s reques ted 1h.11 we save so me of th e 1hings like the found.11ion rocks and the
limbers .
Ma yo r Brad sha w sai d I thi nk Publ ic Works ha s agreed 10 do that
Council Member Wolosyn asked that we remain mindfu l of 1he fac t that it is a centenn ia l ye ar and !r te; try
10 so mehow incorporate a memory of that bu ilding im o that
Council Member Yurchick asked if !he y need to make an amendment to 1h~ motio n.
CO UNC IL MEM BER WOLOSYN MOVE D TO Al'l'I EN D TH E MOTIO N TO I NC LUDE HER
ITEMS AN D COUNCIL M EMbER G RA ZULIS' ITEMS .
By co nse nsu s. Council app roved the motion 10 Jmend .
Vo te rc sull s on lit e motio n (as a mend ed) 10 raze lh c Skcrri ll House:
Ayes : Co uncil Members Moore , Garret!. Wo losyn. Yurc hick. Grazu lis.
Bradshaw
Nays: Cou ncil Member Nabho lz
Motion ca rried .
~1.lyor Bradshaw said all ri ght.
Ci ty Ma nage r Sears said he just wamcd 10 make sure he unde rstood . The Co uncil has voted to proceed
with the demo lition of th e property. But we need 10 do so me dig itizatio n of 1.he existing structure .
es peciall y with any historical areas and then second ly rry to pro vi de a lis ting of the nnifflcl's that we may
want to preserv e in some fashion . Is that rig h1 ? Council sn id yes .
City Ma nage r Seo.rs so.id that is 1hc: way th at we will lroceed anct we will give Co un cil o. li sti ng oftl.c time
in th e nex t week or so .
:vta yo r Brads ha w thanked Ass istant Ci ty Manager Fbhen y and Dire ctor Long. She also tha nked oun cil
fo r 1hc 1r patience .
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(a) C11y Manag er Sea rs sa id he JUSt wa 1ued to remin d Co un cil lim1 on Sep tember
11111 \\C will ha ve a cssio n in 1hc morning and a session at the Mal ley Center 1h01 evening .
(b) ( ity ~lanager Scars said I know it is a busy monl h fo r Co un cil. I had 1alked to
Stu Fonda ab ou t doinc a R.-nch Creek 1our, whic h I be lieve is this weekend . I don'1 kn ow who ca n attend
tha t am.I I jus1 wa111 cd lo get a counl. Ma yo r Brads haw said so me of us have e-mai led bac k that we could.
Co uncil Member Wo losy n sui d I am goi ny .
~layor Bra .. tsh.:.w asked who wo ul d be go ing on the R:111ch Creek tour thi s Sa turd ay.
Ci ty ~!J na,:;cr s:ud 1hcn th ere are live that will attend .
le) Cit y M:rnager Sea rs sai d I will be une ndin g a se~sio n wi th Sue Ea 1on on la ying
ofT. bud get is~uc ~ and dca;ing with cu 1-back nmnagemcn 1 that the lnnova 1io ns Gro up is pullin g together to
see wha 1 the experie nce is in oth er co mmuni1ie!:. So I will be invo lved with tha t sess ion .
(d) City Manage r Sears s;iid the First Annua l Englewood Rotary Go lf Toumament
ts li sted on 1hc :igenJa :i nd I am looki ng for direclio n from Co un ci l.
Ma yo r Br:id shaw said I thought we :i grcl!d to spo nso r :1 four some . DiJn'1 we '? Cil y Ma11agc1· Scars sail.I I
don·1 tlunk 1hcn.· wus a decision .
Ma yo r Dr:id sha w ~skcd Co unci l what they wante d to do .
Coun ci l Mcmbl!'r Wolo syn as ke d abo ut th e cos t ofa fo ur some . Ma yo r Brad sha w and Cit y Mana ger Sears
advised tha t 1t is $650.00 .
Co un cil Member Wo los yn said I wo ul d offe r tha t we sponsor :1 hole for S250 .00 .
Cnmci l agreed to sponso r a ho le Ill S250 .00 .
~layo r Brad shaw noled that Coun ci l had :1 Study Sessi on :it th e close of this mee ting .
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City Anom ey Brot zman did 110 1 ha\'e any m:mers 10 br:ng before Co uncil.
15. ..\t.ljournmcnt
The meet ing adjourned at 9·2 5 p.m.
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(n) Cit y Manager Seu rs said he jus1 wanted 10 remind ounci l 1hat on ::...;. ~::c ,,t,x r
i ! di we "111 hnvc a session in the mom ins and a sessio n 1111he Mall ey Ce nt er tha1 eve n mg.
(b) City Manager Sca rs sa id I know it is n busy month fo r Co un ci l. I hnd Ul.lk cd to
Sn1 F1nda about doi ng a Ra nch Cree k tour. which I believe is this weeke nd . I don 't know who can att end
that and I jusl wa nt ed 10 ge t n count. Mayo r llrnd shaw said so me of us have c-111::iilcd ba ck th::it we co uld .
Counci l ~1embcr W~losyn said I am going .
Mayor Bradshaw asked who would be goi ng on the Ranch Creek tour thi s Saturd ay.
Ci ty Manager stud then !h ere arc fi\·c th at will attend.
(c) Ci ty Manager Scars sa id 1 ,, 111 be attending a sessio n with Sue Ea ton on laying
off, budget issues and dealing with cut-back numa gcrne nt that th e In novations Grout;, is putting together to
see what 1he expe rience is in other com muniti es . So I will be invo lved with that sessio n.
(d) City Manager Scars said th e First Annua l Englewood Rotary Golf Tourname nt
is li sted on th e agenda and I 11111 looki ng for direct io n from Council.
Mayor Bradslm w said I th ought we agreed to spo nso r a foursome . l)idn '1 we? City ~lana ge r Sca rs said I
do n't thmk 1here was a decisio n .
Mayor llradshaw asked Coun cil what 1hey wanted to do .
Council Membe r \Vo losyn asked about the cos t of a foursome . Ma yor Bradshaw and Cit y Mana ge r Sears
advised th ::i t it is $650 .00.
Counci l Mc111bt•r Wo\osyn said I would offer th at we spo nso r a hole for 525 0.00 .
Co uncil agreed to spo nso r a hole at S250 .00 .
Mayor Bradsh11w noted 1h:u Cou ncil had 11 S1ud y Ses sion at 1he close of this mec:i11g .
14 . Cit y Allorney's Repor t
Ci ty Anomcy Brotzman did not ha ve any man ers to bring before Council.
l 5. Adjournment
The mcclin g adjoumed 11 1 9:25 p.m .