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ENGLEWOOD CITY COl1NC IL
ENGLE WOOD, ARAPAHOE CO rY, CO LORADO
Ocrobcr 7, 2002
I. Ca ll lo Order
The regular n~c ling of1hc Englewood City Council was called 10 order by Ma yo r oradshaw at 7:33 p.m.
2. In ,·oca tion
The in vocatio n was given by Council Member Nabholz.
3. Pledge or All eg iance
The Pledge of Allegi anc e was led by Mayor Bradshaw .
4. Roll Call
Presen t:
Abse nt:
A qu orum wa s present .
Counci l Members Nabholz. Gra zulis. Garren. Wolosyn. Yurch ic k,
Bradsha w
Council Membe r Moore
Ma yo r Bradshaw advised that Cou ncil Member Moo re had 11 dea th in hi s fomi ly, so he is out of state .
Also pre se nt
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City Manager Se:irs
Ci ty Ano mc y Bro12man
Assi stant City Manager Fl:ihcny
Ci1y Clerk Ellis
Directo r Olso n, Safety Services
Directo r Gryglcwicz . Finance and Administrati,·e Serv ic es
Dircc1or Black . Pnrl,1. ;,, :l Recreat ion
Golf Course Manub : !Spada
Housmg Finan ce Speciali st Grimm ett
Senior Plann er Langon , Communi ty Deve lopment
(a) CO UN CIL MD1BER GRAZULIS MOVE D. A.-.;D IT WAS SECON DED, TO
APPROVE T HE MI NUTES OF T HE REGU LAR CITY COUNC IL MEETlNG OF SEPTEMBER
16, 200 2.
M:iyo r Brad sha w asked if there were any corrections. There were 11one .
Vote res ul ts:
Motion carried.
A>•es : Co uncil Members Nabholz. Garren. \V olosyn, Yurch ic k, Gr;;izulis ,
Bradshaw
Nays : None
Abse nt Council Member Moore
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6. Schedul ed Visitors
(a} Director Olson said ii is a pl ens ure not 10 1alk !I.bout police is sue s fo r D. whil e. We nrc
going to !:ilk abou1 fire di vision iss ues and th is is a mi l honor fo r me to introd uce th ese gentlemen . He
asked 1ha1 Ja so n Hehn , Rom:in Rede and Brion Baker co me forw:ir d. 1l1ese 1hree ge ntlemen. he said ,
rep rescn1 cd 1he Eng lewo od Fi re Divi sion . and of course 1his Chy, in Firefigh ter Days down in C:istle Rock
b:ick 111 August. Essen li:ill y. !h ey were pan of wh:ir is ca ll ed th e Firefighter Con 1bat Cha ll enge . Yo u may
have seen ii on TV, he said . II is pan of our re gu lar evaluati on :ind rrainin~ proc ess . Even though th ere
were on ly 1hre~ of thcm 1hcy deci ded 10 p:irti ci p:ite in 1he fi ve.member rela y team . So the y compete d
ilg:ii nst sever.ii 01her fi ve.membe r teams, came in founh pla .:e and 1hey were offered the chance 10 go 10 th e
World Firefig ht er Comhal Challenge. whic h is coming up later th is month . Direc tor Olson stated th ey did a
;r-:;;.:job .
i"irefig ht er Baker sai d. as Director Olso n exp lai ned. we :ire a three.man rela y te:im .-nd we did qualify for
the World Cha llen ge . Tu qu alify, yo u ha ve 10 do all fi \'e firefighting tasks in under 11110 minutes . In
re sponse to Ma yo r Ornd~hu " Firefi ght er Baker exp lain l!d 1ha1 1he ta sks in vo lve 11 fi ve-s tory to we r. You
nm up the lower wi th a 45.poLnd hose puck on your shoulder. in fu ll bunker gear, with SCBA . Then from
th ere we hand off. and a membe, hoists n 45•po und donu t roll up the fi ve stories with a hand over ha nd
rope mN ion . We !h en run bn c\c down :i nd do a forc ible entry si mul a1ion. which is a 165-pound forcib le
entr y s. 11ula 1or. All er that we run lhrough a series of fir e hydrnn1 s anc.i drng n 220 •poun d charged hose line
75 ft:e t :md kn ock down a 1:1rge1. And from 1here. the big task is 10 drag a 175-pou nd rescue dummy, 100
fee t 10 th e fi ni sh lin e. And th111 all ha s to be done in under two minut es, whi ch we did with three members
in a minut e fony•lhrc e and we 100k founh pl ace.
Cou ncil Member N11 bhol z offered her co ngra 1ula1ions .
Firefight er Baker sta ted that the y apprec ia te Co unci l's support :ind letting !hem pa nicipa 1e. And, he said,
we apprt:ci:11c your ti me here tonig ht. He th :mk ed Co unci l.
Ma yo r Brads haw thanked Firc fighler Baker :ind wis hed them good lu ck .
The fi relit:lu crs were given a rour.d ofapµlausc .
Eugene Norma n sai d I read the Presiden t's spe .c h ton ig ht ancl J found ii very interest ing
bu t I re l 1s not our answer. Perha ps dip lomacy pro perl y emp loyed could he , he said . Re:iJing from a
prep ared s1a1emen1. he said ii is not my mtent to place blame rel :11ive 10 our co li.:~1ive prob lem;. but 10 see k
so lu 110ns along with eac h of yo u ... syne rgetics in action . The quic l:c r we can do that , the bcner our chnnces
ofsurv h'n l bo th as 11 :•a 1ion and 11s individuals . The present implies fu 1u re pote n1ial ac tion . In the p:ist.
acti on e"olved via approximati ons, we si.nplitied nutters by neg lecti ng fo-:1ors we felt unimponanl. So me
of 1hose quan 1i11es. whic h we dis re garded in 1he past, mu st be brought back on li ne and integrated. For
11 11y1hing to happen it requires a difl~:rencc in le ve ls of energy, a change in our th inking . The following is
an examp le of wha1. h1 pan. I wish 10 present. In human evo lut ion. 1elevision is a rr l:rnvely recen t
phenome non anJ ma y be per..:cived as :in ,:n1 ity unt o itse lf. 1 is, in 11 sense, quil c nmnesi:ic :ind dysle xic
and crea te s the sam e: syndro me wi thin th e co ll ec 1ive pe rso n:i fits viewe rs. It must be obviou ~ '""I TV is
funded and co ntroll ed and. therefore . dictated 10 by a co rporate network of big oil , petrochemic:ils ,
govemmt.·m. tobacco, phamuceut ic al s, insuranc e. au1omo 1ives and 01her industrie s. Money for the sake of
mone y and not int elli gent and co mmon se nse decisions . If our Pres idents focus on ev il is va li d. could this
nol be indico.t ive of tha1 C"il'! The hyp notic and ~lyslc :d c :i specl of TV, ifno1 alt ered. can destroy yo u.
Real li fe 1s 1101 a pictu re show, nor can true democracy rema in a plu1ocracy of co rpor:ite con trol. We, ns
American s. have been tric ked out of our democra cy by fa s! ta lkers backed by the oli garchy of geopo lil ica l
capi1a li sm . We mu st go bt"yond the cu n•emp t the y have shown fo r the people and crc :i tc 11 si tuatio n,
wherc-in the domestic au dience bccoin.o:s ,101jus t vicwer5, but part of the ac ti on onto logica ll y. Words ma y
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become deeds o nl y if nc1ed upon by those here tonight Reve lati on mc :ms di sclosure. The Firs t
Am endm ent need not become 3 big joke. The far right majority of 1he Supreme Coun :1long with the
theocra cy of 1he Chri stian ultra rig ht :1 nd the censorship imposed by tel ejo umali sts mu st be brought down
by lhe peo ple of thi s country. The infringrmenl by th e media cane I alone upon democrac y is no less 1han
pathe tic . Ra1her than pre se nting in1clligen1, constructive ideas and po1entir.l solutions fo r ou r democratic
i11111nination , we arc fed corpo rate ads. spans :md weathe r. Th e liberal media , it turns out , is no t democratic
111 all . Nor is ii re:i ll y liberal. The sheep and. lamb s in thi s country mus t grow up nnd become rams ifwe
arc to survive in fu ture ti me , We have nil contrib ut ed 10 the formation of specia l intrrest gro ups and bi g
mon ey ; it is time that th ey began contribu ting 10 us . Let us form a special program on prime time
1clevis ion , in combinatio n wi1h the Intern et, dealing with po ss ible solutio ns and vo te, as a n11tion , on those
so lut io ns, a true 1es t dea ling wilh democracy. We will 1hen give thnl to the governmen t for further action.
The go vemmem must become mo re respo nsib le to the peop le . Ou r danger is not where we are looking , but
where we arc not looking . lsrad , Is lam and Chris1iani1y mu st unders tand , for our collective we ll being , that
the old god or "an eye for an eye" mus 1 be di sca rd ed, thrown in to the garbage heap or the pa st. The god or
for giveness and compassion mus t be enac ted . Properl y undcrslood, 1he war in the Holy Land is a war on
th e se lf and mus! be overcome fo r !he sake or world peace . God may be seen as a reflection, an image that
we produce in o ur a~li ons . ln1 ell igen1 action produce s or manife sts an intell igent God. Fearso me thinking
creates fear so me action . Cause and effect incamale, It 's tha t simple . In final analysis. it becomes obvious
and break s down 10 the foct 1hn1 we arc no mart th an im.,ge to ourselves and ea~·h other. Whether created
by God or oursc l•·es ii becomes ~ moo t point. Their remains on unseen order and our supreme good
includes ri gh tful relations 10 ii, ~ince it has psyc holog ical , ph ysica l and mora l tangible effects which, in the
end . we are forced 10 deal with 10 its ultimate co nclusion . In retros pect , I wish 10 re-emphasize the fact th at
by acting on my ideas rela ting to national re-fo re stat ion and man-made aquifers, we will nol on ly benefit
future generations. but ourselve s as well, by stimu latin g 1he economy, creating new jobs and bringing
nature back to a balance d syste m similor to, :md even superior to the one th:11 exis ted prior to the invasion
of 1he wh il e man in this co unt ry . The other choice yo u hnvc is a de sen in the nex t 30 to 50 years. or less .
Thank you .
M:J yo r Brad shaw thanked Mr. Norman .
7. Unscheduled Visilors
(o ) An Emison, 55 64 South Lee Strccl, Littleton. sa id I am back again, af:er se ver.ii yea rs ,
addressing th e Co uncil and asking for help . I'm ha ving prob lems co ntinually with my development ofmy
property and I'm aski ng fo r so me help from Co uncil. I wou ld like to see if I could cs lablish a meeting wi th
Counci l. hopefull y on si te . to pre se nt some ofmy iss ues . I believe the issues arc being mi srep r~sented and
mishandled by staff. I'm panicularly hav ing trouble in !he orea of zo ning and code cnforccmc u:. So I'm, of
course, not prepared tonight to pre se nt. in the shon ti me all ocated 10 me . Bui if I ca n get some time I can
come an d pre sent my iss ues . I do believe it would be bcner if we co uld be on silc, but whate ve r, I do ha ve
re all y thousands ofp1c1urcs of the iss ue so we ca n do wha tever needs 10 be done. I'm just seeking help from
Counci l. I have not, he staled. in seven years. succecoed in getti ng any kind uf workable reso lution.
Ma yo r rradshaw asked if th ere were any que stions fo r Mr. Emison . There were none . She advi sed Mr .
Emison th at Co un cil wou ld lak e it under :iovise mcnt . Mr. Emi so n thanked Co uncil.
Ma yor Bradshaw thanked Mr. Emi son .
(b) Jame s C. Mob ley, 3785 South Cherokee , said I om down here wit h an odd si tua1ion. We
ha ve been driving by 1he Skcrrin House and 1rying to find out who we. cou ld contact about po ssibl y buying
it . I had been !old once tha1 it belonged 10 Eng lewood and I didn't be lieve it. But I saw a flyer and I did
mak e a proposal. It has been su bmincd , he sai<l . thou gh I don·t know if Cou nci l has seen it yet. I called the
Council e:ulier :ind was told 1hat you arc consideri ng voling on demolition tonigh t. l wo ul d lik e to urge
you not 10 vo1e 10 demoli sh 1t. a1 lea s1 toni ght He asked 1ha1 Co unc il gi ,: a li nlc 1ime . ~tr. Mobley said a
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gentkman showed us the ins id e of the hou se thi s morning and I have heard two figure s, but he told us it
wns $135,000 for 1he propeny . We also heard earlier that it was $12 7,000 for the propeny. He no ted that ,
through Co lorndo Pre servation. I n1::.d e an offer of ~50 ,J00. I wa nt the house for myself, for our home . I
understand they ha ve proposed to Co un cil 1h111 Council delay this demolition for six months to try to wo rk
so mething out. I was 1old. at least as of Friday night . that we were th only one that made a proposal to buy
it through 1his se tup . If you decide not to go that way. I wou ld still urge you to delay 1hc vote to demolition
and give me a chance to negotiate di rc c1 ly with Eng lewood on bu yi ng th e houst: for myself. He said ifwe
get it through thi s se tup. we wou ld more or less ha ve to let it be shown as the hl.l me of th e originator of
Englewood. espec iall y during the ce ntenni al yetlr. But that is not my intention , especia ll y ifl can nego tiate
directl y wi th Englewood and not pay a full price fo r ii , th en I wou ld co nsider it mine rea ll y to do with as I
plea se d, I would be willing 10 put a sig n ou t front describing the propeny ::md the his1orical setting, but we
would 110 1 be willing to allow lours. So whi chever way yo u go, he said, I hope I get a chance at it. We
have been trying to for three month s, he said, and I couldn't believe tha t the City of Englewood owned it.
Ma yo r Brad shi'w thanked Mr . Mobley .
Coun cil Member Grn zul is asked Mr. Mobley, when he toured the house this morning, if they provided
ma sk s.
Mr. Moble y said no. we didn't ask for an y ma sks. Ther e is water damage , he said , but that 's nothing . I'm
not worri ed .ibo ut the old houses. he said . nnd if yo u're talking about asbestos, I'm not the slightest bit
worried abou t it . Mc asked if there were any other questions . There w:rc none .
ti.fa yo r 13radslmw thank ed him . In response 10 who.1 you just propo sed, Mr. Mobley, we have as ked staff to
talk 10 Co lorado PreserYation , In c. and 1hey wi ll gel back to us ne ."<I week. We're staning negotiations with
them to ge t the propeny to them . ifwe ca n strike II dc::il. That's where it is right now , she said .
Mr . Mob ley said I'm sure they wi ll prese my propo s::i l 10 yo u.
Mayor Br::idshaw said okay and she thank d Mr. Mobley.
8. ·.-umm unie:llion s. Proc lama tio1 s and A.(J poinlmenls
(a) A proclamation declari ng October 20 through 26 as World Popu lation Awareness Weck
was co nsidered .
COUNCIL MEMBER GRAZULIS MOVED, AN D IT WAS SECON DED, TO DECLARE
OCTOBER :o T HRO UG H 26 AS WORLD POPULATION AWARENESS WEEK.
Ayes :
Na Y!i:
Ab sent:
Motio n c.:mied .
Council Members No.bholz. Garrett , Wolosyn , Yurc hi ck, Grazulis ,
Bradshaw
None
Counci l Member Moore
(b) A lcncr from Ken Parks indica ting hi s res ignation from the Planning and Zoning
Co nuni s io n was co nsidered.
COUNCIL MEMBER GRAZU LI S MOVED, AN D IT WAS SECONDED, TO ACCEPT THE
RESIG 1o ATION OF KEN PARKS FROM THE PLANNING AND ZON ING COMMISSION.
Counc il Membe r Yurc hi ck said he had a que stio n. Docs anyone know what wo.s going on? After reacting
thi s lencr , it sounds like there was more underl ying here than just somebod y rcsigniug .
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Co uncil Member Nabho lz said it was in the minu1e s 1hc month before.
Cil y Anomey Brotzma n ex.plained that it wa s in re gard 10 att endan ce.
Vote results:
A)•es :
Nays :
Absent
M o 11011 ca:r.:d.
Co un cil Members Nabho lz. Garrett, Wolosyn. Yurchi ck, Grazu lis,
Bradshaw
No ne
Co un cil Member Moo re
Ma yo r Bradshaw stated the next thre e agenda items arc appointing an ahernat ivc member, Ke nt Diekmeier ,
to the Planning Co mmi ssio n. a reso luti on appoin ting Robyn Williams 10 1hc Liquor Licensing Authority
and a re solut ion rea ppointing Edna 81:lir tc, the Code Enforcement Ad visory Commi tt ee .
COUNC IL MEMBER WOLOS\'N MOVED , AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO APPROVE AGEN DA
ITEM S 8 (c), (d) und (e).
(c) RESOLUTION NO . 87. SERIES OF 2002
A RESO LUT IO N APPOINTING KENT DIEKM ' "~ASA MEMBER OF THE PLA N1'HNG AND
ZONING COMM ISS ION FOR THE CITY OF E VOOD .
(d) RESOLUTIO N NO . 88 , SER IES OF 2002
A RESOL TIO N APPOI NTING ROB YN WILLIAMS TO THE E 'GLEWOOD LIQ UO R I.ICE SING
AUTHORITY FOR THE CITY OF ENG LE WOOD, CO LORADO .
(e) KESOLUT ION NO . 89, SERIES OF 2002
A RES0 LUT IO, REAPPOINTING EDNA BLAIR TO THE CO DE ENFOR CE MENT ADVISORY
cmIMI TTEE FOR THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD , COLORr\D G.
Vote res ulc s :
Aye s:
Nays:
Ab sent
Mo tio n ca rried .
Cou ncil Membe rs Nabholz . Ga rrell , Wolosyn, Yurchick. Grazulis,
Bra ds haw
No ne
Counci l Member Moore
Ma yor Bradshaw pre se nted Kent Dic kmcicr. Robyn Williams and Edna Blai r with 1heir Ce n ificate of
Appointmcru :md 11 City pin .
Ma yo r Bradsh:i w expre ssed her th imks to 1hem for t:iki ng time to sc1vc 1hcir community.
Q, Public Hearing
(a ) M:i yo r Br:id shaw ad vis ed that 1h1s Publ ic Hearing, to gather publi c input on the City of
Englewood's 2()')3 Bud gel. is a co ntinuation of the Publ ic Hea ring of September 16, 2002 .
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COUNCIL MDIIIER GARRt:TT MOVED, AND IT WA S SECON DED, TO OPEN THE PUBLIC
HEARING TO 'ATHER P DLI C INP UT ON THE CITY OF E 'GLEWOO D'S 2003 BUDGET.
Aye s:
Nays:
Absent
Co uncil ~•lcmbers Nabholz. Gan.:ll, Wo losyn, Yurchick, Grazuli s,
Bra dshaw
No ne
Council Member Moore
Moti on ca rried and 1hc Publi c Hearing opened .
Dire ctor Gryg lcwicz. dul y sworn, prov ided the Cit y Clerk w;th Proo f of Publi ca 1ion of No tic e of •'1e
Continuati on of Publi c Hea ring. which was ori gi nall y held on Sep tembe r l 611i. He advised that this notic e
was pub lis hed in the Englewood Herald on Se ptember 20. 2002 . He stale d that th is is a Pub lic Hearing to
gather in pu t on the Cily of Englewood 's 2003 proposed budget.
Ma yor Bradshaw aske d if the re Wl!re .:1n y questio ns for Mr . Gryg lewicz . There were none .
Ma yor Brad sha w as ke d if th ere was :rn yonc in the aud ience who wis l,-..d to address the Cit y Council ahol!t
the 2003 budget There was no one .
COUNCIL MDIDER GARRETT MOVED. AND IT WAS SECON DED. TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC
HEARI NG TO GATHER P UBLIC li'iP UT ON THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD'S 2003 HUDG ET.
Ayes : Co un cil Mem bers N.:1bholz. Garre n, \Volosyn . Yurchick, Grazu lis,
Bradshaw
Nays : None
Absent: Co uncil Member Mo ore
Moti on carried and the Pub li c Hearing cl osed .
(b) COUNCIL MDIBER GARRETT MOVED, AN D 11' WAS SECONDED, TO
OPEN T HE P UBLI C HEARING TO GATHER PUBLIC I NP TON COUNCIL BILL NO . 45 ,
AUTHORIZING J, SF~'.'ER RA TE INCREASE.
Ayes: Co un cil Members Na bholz. Gnrrcn , Wo losyn. Yurchick.. Grazu li s,
Bradshaw
N.:1ys : No ne
Absent: Co uncil Member Moore
Mo tion carried and the Public Heari ng ope ned .
All wi1n essc s were du ly swo rn .
Direc1or Fonda prese nt ed Proo f of Public.:1tion of No tice of Publi c Hearing, which was publi shed ir. the
Englewood Herald on Sep tember 20 , 2002 . The sewe r rate increase has been discussed at a Stud y Sessio n
wi th 1he Cit y Counci l. he said, and it has been pub li shed in the Englewood Hera ld. A sm:i ll article about
the proposed increa st! was also publi shed in the Englewood Ci tize n. We prepared and dis trib uted , in the
Li brary and other locations. an infom1:11io:1 booklet on th e prop osed project. which requires thi s increase.
By wa,y of bac kgrou nd, he sa id , we are requiring a major expnnsion of the e:mting facilitie s and the
cons1ruc1ion of additiona l treatment pro cesses. The pro posed rate increase wi ll pay for inc reased cos 1s
res ult ing from the se requiremen ts. The new co nstru ction is ne cessary to acco mmoda.te re ce nt
denitrofi cation requireme nts im posed by the State Hca hh Department . Addi1ionally. !he Sou th Pla tte River
ha s recent ly bee n red.:1 ssi fied as a recreatio nal Cla ss One river. whic h requi res increased pnthogen
de struction . TI1 c Plan Ex pansion ponion of the project is•~~ res ult of 1he ra pid growt h in the a.rea se rve d
by the plant . He pointed out that the gr0\\1h has nea rl y dr.,ub le,t the projec ti ons used since th~ last
ex pansio n. The Projec t is currentl y be ing designed by B:own a:,d Ca ldwell Cons ul.ing Engineers . his
es tima1 ed th at the 101:i.l cost of the project wi ll be S 110 mi1:ion , of ~vhich Eng lewood will be re spons ible fo r
55 %. Des ign should be co mpl eted by the fir st quarte r of200,1 and a1 that time bids sho uld be re ceive d tor
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con stru cti on. Co nstruction is expec ted to lake about three years. In ord er 10 finance thi s constmc lion , the
firm of Bla ck and Veatch was rc ta ineJ to anal yze financing alternative s. It was de1ennined tha1 n bond
iss ue in th e range ofS55 million to $60 million will b~ needed . h is propo se d 1h01 thi s is sue will be
co ncurre nt wi1h 1hc reccipl of the bid in 2004 . Sewer r:ucs will need to b increased to pa y the principal
and int cnm on 1hc new bonds. Black and '✓catc h is currentl y proj ecting that a rot e increase of20% is
curren tl y needed 10 show adequate coverage on ou r ex isling debt prior 10 issuance of the new bond s. On
th e iss uanc e of the new bond:;. 1hcy are projecting rat e increases of 13% to 15% fo r the next fou r years after
1hat . 10 meet co verage requiremen ts on th e bond s. I ha ve Mr . Gallag er here , he sa id , to pre se nt additional
infonu:mon on hi s calculn1 io ns and what he ha s fou nd.
John Ga ll ager. with Black and Vea:ch Engineers , said l have been re sponsibl e fo r the Wa stewater Rate
S1 ud y. We ha ve publi shed a brief report and distributed it to Counci l 1md I wou ld lik e to go over just some
of the hi ghlis tus of our stud y with yo u. We're re commendin g !11111 you increase wastewaicr rates in 2003
by 20%. Thi s is the fir st rale in crea se that you've had since 1982, so that is 2 1 ye ars that these rates have
been in effe ct. That's a very long time for utilit y rat es to be adequa,e. he po in1ed out. The reaso n fo r the
rate incrc:i se is that , without thi s increase , wc·re projecting a shortfall , in the ability of re ve nue s from rates
10 meet proje c1ed expenses in 200 3. of ~bout $800 ,000.00 . Additionally , we're projectin g that yot.1 w:11 not
be ab le 10 mee t your ou 1standing revenue bond covenants without 1his rate in crease, so we beli eve thi s is
m.·cessary. As Dir.:ctor Fo nda indica ted. additional increases are be ing proje cted in the future and these
will accommodate se rv ing the debt on the propo sed bonds for the proposed fa cili1ies . The 2003 increase
will rcsuh in a quart er!)' increase in rcsiden1inl bill s ofS3 .63 per quarter. We also looked 111 your curre nt
t:ip fee . Your t.i p fe e is S 1400.00 per equivalent re side n1ial unit We arc not foreca sting the need for a
change in th:it a1 thi s time , howe ver , we are recommending that after yo u know what th e costs are of your
proposed faci lities, that yo u reanalyze that tap fee to be sure that it is adequa:e . Tha l concludes my
remark s. he said .
Ma yo r Bradshaw asked if Council had an y que stions for Mr . Gal lage r. There were none .
A. C. An derso n. 3900 South Galapago , sai d, I'm no1 go in g to take up very much time becau se there is
another gentlema n here that is bener armed to talk this evening 1han I, bu t I happened to read in the
Engkwood Hern Id an article conce rning th e wa st cwarer improveme nts and in that they ~uoted a population
that kind of staggered me. I was just wondering , he said. if Eng lewood is supporting Hig hl ands Ranch
co mmun11 ie s on our wa stewater facilit ies . Now. I understand thal Littleton h'.'lr a wa stewater facility of
th eir own. Ma yo r Brarl :;~t?w advised tha t it is joint fa cilit y: it is the EnglcwoocVLittle ton Waslc water
Trealment Pl ant Mr . Amk rso n asked if this is in co njun ction with so me of the residents of Highlands
Ran ch. ~Ir . Fonda s1a1ed, 110. Highlands Ran ch has !heir ow n treatment plan! bu1 we do , howeve r serve a
large region . We are a regi on:il plan1 and we serve everyth ing, roughly. from th e Valle y Hi ghway to the
foo thill s sout h of here. exc l''>I Hi ghland s Ranch . Mr . Anderso n asked if the rate s arc also goi ng up for
everybod y who use s th is fa cili ty . Direclor Fonda said )C:S . Bec ause, Mr. Anderson said the fi gure that I
saw w:is phenomenal and I know Eng lewood is a captive city. We can't grow that much from the figure s
thJt were in 1he ne wspaper. Mr. Fonda repli ed, thal is lru e, we do se rve a populatio n in 1he ran ge of
250.000 to 275,000 people in 1ha1 area that I desc ribed .
Mr . Anderso n said I 1hought 1he fi gure in th e paper wa s 300 ,000 and I just wondered where our new
addi ti on wns . That answers my question. he said. so I'm going to tum it over to the gentleman who fo ll ows
me on th is issue . He 1hanked Coun cil. Mayor Bradshaw thanked Mr. Ande rson .
Ga ry Dou na y. 444 5 South Elat i Street , sa id fir st of all I want 10 th i nk Ma yo r Brad shaw and the Cou ncil
members for th e opportuni ty 10 provi de a few comments on th is . Ac1uo.lly. he said , more 1han co mm ents , I
have que stions. As you know. ac co rdmg 10 article s and a Pub lic No ti ce pub lished in the Eng lewood
Herald. th e City is pro po sing dramati ,; increases in the role s. But thi ! · ;113 1ion tho.I I have nuy be
incomplc1e. he said. bec aufe all I ha ve is wha t is publ ished in the new·1 pe r. So . he said, plea se bear with
me . Mostl y wh:1 1 l h:i ve are qucsli ons more than commen ls. Based or. ,,e information in th e articl e~, it
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appears. when I go through and cakuliue my rate. 1hat over the next five years ... at the end of five years ,
my ra1e will have incrr.ascd 11 7%, heca use there arc annual inrreases in addition 10 whal there is for the
year 2003 tluu we jusl he ard about But when one looks at the to 1al brcakdown of th e cos ts, as pu blished in
the paper. it said tha1 51 % of 1he total cost of the project is 10 , .. crease the capacity for the treatment plant
One oflhc anicl es includes ll quo te from Mr. Fonda indicating 111111 the treatment plant serv es 300,000
re si dents in Englewood/Litt leton and 1he ,;outh metro area . Now, according 10 the U.S. cc1b us data , I see
that Englewood has a popolation of 31 ,72 7 people and Littleton has a popultltion of 43 ,580 people , so that
mt::ms the sewer plant provides services to 224,692 residents outside Englewood and Littleton . And the
service population outside the ci1ies of En glewood and Littlc1011 is 2.98 limes greater than the combined
population of Englewood and Littleton toge ther. In 01her words, roughly three times the rate is for outside
the city itself. So . 1he question I have is , what is the advanta~c to the Englewood residen ts to be providi ng
sewe r service for people outside Englewood and Littleton'! That is the fust question for your considerntion .
Secondly, if I go to the noti ce that was publi shed in the paper. you sec this linlc chart of the schedule,
Sc hedul e A. tt oppcars, ac co rding to Schedule A. that in so me coses Englewood residents could be paying
more than people ou tside the Ci ty for the sewe r serv ic es . For example , th e minimum quarterly charge for a
single family dwelling in Englewood is S2 I. 78. according to this schedule. But 1he minimum quarterly
charge for a single family dwelling ou tside the districl, as listed in Schedule 4 of this piece, is 520.16. So
that rai ses 11 que st ion . I really don't understand 1ha1 piec e or the schedule where they have it broken down
by the types ofdwelling ... whether it is sing le famil y home , mobile home , apartments or whateve r. And so
when one looks al the cen sus do1a, you see that Englewood has 2.1 i persons per househo ld . This means we
have a lot of house s with one or two persons per home. But this , 10 me , seems easily comparab le 10 what
you would expect for an apartment or mobile homt:. So I'm wondering, is it fair and equitable to charge a
single family dwelling more 1han a mobile home or an opartmenl as indicated in Schedul e A '!
Ma yor Brorish:t w aske d if he wanted th ese questi ons answe red one at a time . Mr . Dounoy said no , I just
want (O throw 1hese out . Ma yo r Bradshaw said . OK. becousc Mr . Fond o. is ready 10 :mswe r. Mr. D Junay
said no. let me go through all of them first. Mayor Bradshaw said okay.
Mr . Douna y said that the currcnl ce nsus data al so indicates there arc 2.53 persons ..,.~r household in
Arapahoe Count y. S'J if yo u look ot this and compore that against what you have fo e Engle wood. this
means fhc sewe r rate s for Englewood residents. outside Englewood should be gre:t c-r d 1a11 the ralcs for
Englewo01; residents. because, obviou~ly, these hou se holds outside of Englewood are going to genera te
more voh me of sewage than we will . if you fo ll ow thi s drift . More people , more sewage. That's just the
way it goes . So it just doesn 't seem to add up according to what the y have here. Therefore , if one takes all
th is inform.'l tion into considera tion, th e way I figure th ings ... and I won't get into all the nitty-gritty
detnils ... butj:1st get 10 the bottom line , the way I figur e n, the pe r househo ld increase for Eng lewood
re sidents should be less than S50 .61 per yea1 oased on 1he es timo.tcs for this populotion at the r.nd of fe ar
2008. This estimnte, by the way. docs not take in to consideration 1he industrial , commcrr.i it i and ho,;pi1al
charges 10 th e sewer plant. 1hat shou ld furth er decrea se who! the re si dential rote is . But , he said, S50 .61 is o.
whole lot le ss JS a projectc:d cos t for 2008 than the S 153.00 per year thJt ir would be in 2008. based on my
c1.:rrent understanding of all thi s. One other questi on 1 have , he soid. is th at ofter !he sewer plant upgrades
arc co mpleted. will the sewer plant rate remain at the same rate as ch::i.rged in 2008 or will it decrease when
the bonds are paid off! If the rate remains th e same as 2008, then what is the logic for thi s :ind how will
this mon ey be used'! So all things considered, he said 1 ii oppeors that the public sewe r funt. rate sched ul e is
not fair and equitoL\e to the Englewood residents , and 1hc re appears to be some ambi gui ty in the ordinance
with respect to the sewer rate once the bonds are paid off. So ba se d on this. I wou ld encourage you to not
approve the ra1e schedu le as it is publi shed and ifyou·re in1e re sted . J"d be glad 10 go through the details of
my estim1ues and answer any othe r questions that I con, but mostly. I have questions for you . He th1mked
Council.
Ma yo r Bradshaw asked if he wou ld you like answers 10 so me of those ques 1ions . Mr. Oounay said why
don't we wait and sec if other people ha ve some of Lhc so me ques1ions and then we con do them all at the
same time . Mayor Bradshaw said oka y.
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Orvc c Goo ld. JO 13 So·uh Ogden !ree l, sai d I aru n 20-p lus year rcs id i!nt here, I grew up in Lin lc ton, I'm
fr om 1his area I wo uld like to echo so me of Mr. Oouna y sc 111 im c 111s, in 1hat II seems like it amoun ts 10 a
subs id y for th l Li1tk1011 re sident s. si nce our growt h is pren; mu ... h o.o n-cxb 1en1. So therefore. {he pe ople in
Linl e1on arc go in g 10 be bcnditcd. The y arc r,01 part of our 1. x base . isn ·1 th at co rrect? So, he so id, I
don't sec the bendit th at Englewood is go ing to get from thi s. tt·s not any increaserl sort of ben efit that I
can se c. in any way . shnpc or fo nn. I'm not fomili ar wit h the\ ·hol e area . I didn't see the art ic le in the
Herald and I'm not famil iar with the gcogr:•phi c area tha t this enco mpa sses. he sa id. but it reall y doesn 't
see m 10 be an equ ilab le arran ge me111 for us le subsidi ze l.it1le1 on in thc ir growth plan s, when we are not . I
have so me oth er co nce rn s abour fr es h wat er in gen eral , 1hat I probabl y should have addresse d earlier. bu1
thi s is 1hc li rs 1 time I've been here . Ma yor Bradsha w sa id that is okay . Mr. Goo ld said it is kind of hard
not 10 talk about wastewa 1cr wi1hou1 addre ss in g fres h wa ter , ;n my mind . rm no! sure , he so:d, do \\'f. share
our fr es h w.1t er. our dri nki ng WJ !er sup ply •viL11 Lin le1on as well ? Oirec 1or Fon-' J said no.
Mr . Gool d said I jus1 th ink I'm surpr i!' d tha1 there are so few pe ople here todn :1 ab out thi s as it seems like a
ve ry im po nan1 iss ue. The amou111 seems small. but if th is is goi ng 10 set th e prec edent for la1 er in cre:i ses,
based on Li nl eton·s gro wth. then ob,1iously. I think it is somc1hing yo u :ill should ma ybe co nsider. h 's
goin g to bc a larger issue. he sa id, and I 1hink more peo ple are goi ng 10 lak e 11 more seriou sly in 1he future .
He th ank ed Co un ci l.
~l ayor Bra dshaw thanked Mr . Go ol d.
Coun cil Mcmbcr Garrett said I thinh we should address so me of the more gl obal iss ue s from r .re and th cn
we ca n defer 10 Direc1or Fonda for somc of 1he other issue s. But , he said. I'd like to stan wi 1h some
preliminary s1a1emc111 s on so r11e of 1he questi ons tha1 have be en rai sed. Firs 1 of all , you ha ve been a
rc:sirlc nt for o,1er 20 yea rs and it is quite remarkable you haven't hud an y i:1· rca se in sew age rates in 20
years. Almos ! everythir ,g el se ha s gone up dram:11i call y. And the rea son for 1hat, he said . is thal there wo.s
a decisio n mad c by tlw Cit y far 11ers. some 1ime :igo. tha t effi ciency and scale wa s 11 bette r way 10 provide
sewage treatment. Li11l e1on had their own fa cil ity a1 on c time . II \\'3 S dec ided th at wh en yo'.1 are bu yin g a
bunch of chen11 c:i ls in bulk . fo r ex amp le, or doing a bunch of conslruction . bulk is a lot ch eaper than having
all th ese indiv id ual pfont s. And when you t.ilk ed about sub sid ies. I m1:an yo u co uld make the :i :-gument 1ha1
we h:ivc bee n sub idize d. bc e:iu se 1hc uc w gro W1h is paid fo r by ta p fees . An.i ov er the ye ars si nce
19S2 ... and you '!I have th e sp1.•c ifi cs . which I don ·1. .. bu t we ha\'e coll ected ab out S20 million in tap fe es.
which is for 1ha1 new gro wth . Al so that occ urred in Englewood as well :i s ou1 side of En glewood. That
mon~•y is help ing, as we are using 1ha1 mone y now 10 suppon t'1 c bond s. whic h is no1 a pan of the r:i1e
in cre:isc . S'1 tha t's part of 1he re aso n why thi s Coun ci l ... when we had the fa cts ... had to !C1ok at ii carefully .
Y cs. we arc go mg 10 se c a huge increas e. A lot of that is co ming from re gul atio n and un fo nun:uel y, in thi s
en v·"onrucnt . the reg ul ati ons will continu e. What ever com es out of Wa shin gton will help dic tate how
fut ure r.ue in erc:i ses wi ll go wi th tha t. So I 1h ink we h:ive examined t} • 10 "llke su re th:it the citi ze ns here
are ge ll ing a r ir barg:un. fro m :i globa l pers pect ive. on 1he subsidizawm iss ue and we have enjoyed ce nain
ec ano!mes ol sc ale ove r 1he yea rs. which is one re :i so n we hrr,•e not ha d 10 in cre:i se r:it es for 20 years.
whi ch I fin d re nu rk ab lc. Wh en we looked at th e sc ales, and we ar tua l?y sec our incre :?se :; in rates 10 our
cit izen s. we are still goi ng to be at the low end in 2008. Vis-3-vis wh:i1 other peo pl e :Jre paying for
WJ Sh~w.i.1 er 1rea1111e111 1,oda y. Ass uming th ey have no incre ases, we ore s1ill goi ng to be 01 the low end . 5o I
th ink th:u is one of1h e adv:1111 :ig es we looked at. Now, he said , as fo r :i s th e specifics. I'll have 10 defer to
Stu Fond:'!.
Director Fonda said I woul d lik e 10 nuke severa l comment s. Firsi ii is difficult for so meo ne reading :ill of
thi s in th e pape r 10 pull ou1 all of the del ai ls. Ma yo r Bradsha w said absolut ely. But. Mr. Fonda said , I
wou ld lik e 10 say that m the pamphle1 we talk a0out 1he reg ulatory co mpl iance iss ues. whic h is an add iti on
of:i n enurc 1rc:i1men1 process th.i t all 1he customers need 10 pa y for bc..:au sc it's new, it ne ver cxisled
be fo re . That is S3 1 m11l io n of the S 11 0 milli on of !hi! projec t th at is bein g required by th e regulatory
agen cie s. lnfrast ru rnm: mode mi za1i on. in 01her wor,is, keeping the existin ~ fa cil ities up to par. has be en
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i111cgra 1cd ht10 1his project We are spending $22 million of 1he S 110 million on th;i;I. That is also more
lik t an operation or maintemmce ex pense. like a powe r co ~t. He pointed ou1 th :ll it would be paid for by all
th e cu stomers . The capaci ty addition portion is approximately 556 million . of which Englewood is
responsible for 55 %, because our flow s to 1he plant arc 55 % of1he total flows i..in leton·s half is 45 %. The
55 % of the $56 milli on is opproximnlc ly $30 million . Of th e SJO million we've co ll ected about $20 million
and that is in c:is h 111 the bank and will be put forward in this project as part of our c:ish now 10 fund th e
bond issue tmd then a portion of the increa se , of the tap fe es, will be co un1ed as reve nues aga ill.'it the future
bonds . Wh :n yo u look at all 1ha1 , we come prcny clo se 10 the capacity ndd i· ·,u cM IS that are all oca bl e to
Englewood . So f think we can say thilt ocma ll y there reall y isn't 11 subsidy c.,ne wa y or another . We ilre
very clo se to having the tap fee s pay for the growth part of the plant.
Counc il Mem ber Yurc hick said when you ilre talking about costs, ifwc arc alloca1cd 55 % of the cost, do
we get 55% of 1he revenues 100?
Director Fonda explained that Linleton and Englewood operate separately. We pay 55% of the cos t of the
plo.ni and the y pay 45 % and we 1um around and charge everyone in our district, which is roughly everyone
east or Broao ... -a y and the y take everyone wcs 1 of Broadwa y. So. he sai d. when the plant OJ crates, we
submit a bill to Linlc1on for 45 % of all the costs , th en we pay 55 % of the cos t of the plant fr,,m !he rate s
limt we charge. We mi:as ure the flows eve ry year and illlo ca 1e on th e basis of the fl ow, which is fairly close
to lhe 55 %145%.
Co uncil Member Yurchick said so our rate co llection is 55 % of1he 101al rates co ll ected . Mr . Fonda said fo r
the plant , yes ... of the cost, yes .
Co un cil Mem be r Garrett said the answer is tha1 linle1on se ts their own rates . If the y decide to charge a lot
for wha1 ever. they mii.y co ll cc 1 more than 50% of 1he revenu1 • generated from 1he plant.
Direc 1or Fonda said I would like 10 make m1c poinr on the sewe r fund ralc sc hedule , which is difficult to
un,lerstand . We charge a un it charge, which is in the 1op part, whe re it says Sewer Treatment Charge . That
is ,ne charge tha1 we charge to every customer in our system for sewage trea lmcnt. Sewag e co ll ec tion is a
se parat e sewage co lle c1ion sys tem charge and it is whal we charge our o,m re si deni for maimaining ou r
own co ll ection system. The outside di stricts charge their o,m customers sepa rately. The y do not include
that . That is why there is a difference in th e unit cos t and i1 appears that Wf' charge more . In fact , we do ,
but that extra amoun 1 is for the co ll ec tion sys tem charge for maintaining our o,m co llection system. The
unit charge per treatment is charged to everyone . He cxpli1ined that the se tables iUe mainl y exception
table s for when we have a problem and we don't have a measured way of charging a cus 1ome r. For
instance. every house 1ha1 's me1crcd. we measure the wi nter time wa te r f'low , then we ba se the charge each
year base d on your contributic-·~• from each house . each apanmenl unit based on thei r metered water flow
in the winier time, which is v1 :ry close to what you would • se in your house . So we feel th at is about as fair
a sys tem as we can come up Hi th , he said . a1though !here Jrt: still a lot of flat rate water customers in
Eng lewood. hence we still need 10 maintain these table s.
Council Member Yurchick said I w.i,.l to ilSk a que stion 10 make sure I understand how you split this up .
When we 1nlk about Englewood cus to,ners, we ilrcn 'I talking nbout Englewood proper, we're talkin g abou1
everybody cast of Broadwa y 1ha1 is on 1he syste m"? Mr. Fonda said, rou ghl y ... south of here, except
Hi ghfond s Ranch . It's a very large area . several times the size of the Ci ty. Mr. Yurchick. so we're talking
more th,n 1he 30.000. So ifSl 50,000 .00 is our shore, we have 110.000 ou tsi de of1hc Ci 1y picking up t!,eir
share or he cos t? Direc1o r Fonda saiJ }'CS , So. Mr. Yurc hi ck said , it is being fa irl y allocated out side of the
Cit y. Ye s. ;\ifr . Fonda answe red. that was not something 1hc two cities had a choice in. The y had to, back
in th e 70 's. co 1 .... binc and ~come a regional focility . It was Jictatcd by the Environmental Prote ct ion
Agency . Alth ougl, he said. quile frankly . I think it's turned out to be much less expensive for Eng le wood
rcsidc n1s . because • icing pan of 3 1:irgcr faci lit y. we do get dramatic economics of sc ale , where our wLit
cos 1s arc far le ss. be :ng a pan ofa very large operation. than trying 10 go to the same level of treatment with
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a very small plant that would onl y serve 30,000 people. Mr . Yu rchick said that's where 11 lot of co nfu sion
comes in . because when Di rcc 1or Fonda says Eng lewood , I rend 10 dunk 30 ,000 and 1101 th e rest of1 he area .
M:i yo r Bradshaw noted we ha ve ot her di s1ric1s out there .
Direc tor Fo ndu sai d yes . there arc a 101al of 18 dis tricts served by the whole pl an t and I think Englewood
has 12 of th em .
~,Jayor Drad sha w said we ha ve 12 of th e 18 dis tri cts and Li1t lc1on onl y has 6 0'"1hc 18 distric 1s. Dircc1or
Fonrla said it is comp arable land area .
Ma yor Bradshaw s:ud th:u is all called Englewood , all 12 of th ose. plus th e Ci ty. is ca ll ed Eng lewood .
Dirc c1or 1:onda advised that th at is th e pan Englewood manage s.
Mayo r Brads haw said that's where II ge t confusi ng.
Mr . Yurc hick ag re ed th at tha : is where a \01 of 1hc co nfu sio n is co min g fr ont Is Englew1Jod , it se lf, ju st one
of the 12 di s1ric 1s or is ii more 1han one dis tr ic t'? I am 1alking about Englewoo d, 1he City, he sa id . Mr.
Fonda re plie d 1hal Eng le wood. 1he Ci ty. act uall y has ~evera l distric1s crossing it. So uth Eng lewood
S:i nit ation Di strict covers our so uthe rn portio n of th e City . So th e pa rt we contro l dirc c1ly is everyt hin g
except 1ha1. Did I answer lhe qucs 1io n'! Mr. Yurchick said , we ll, no, l'm jusl curiou s ou1 of the 12 di stricts,
is Eng lewood prinurily one district or how many dis tric 1s is it? I'm tryi ng 10 get a gecgraph ic co nce pl of
the di str ic t, he sai d.
Dire ctor Fo nda replied that th e Ci1y itse lf is a porti on, whic h has no di strict, and that is whe re charge that
co ll cc 1ion charge and then 1he so uth ern porti on of it , roughl y south of Oxford is a part of So uth Engl e\
Sa nitati on Di s1rict. Then th ere is a portion of Englewood that is on th e wes 1 side of the ri ver, \·:hich I!,
part of 1hc Va lle y Sani 1a1io n Distric t. Thar's on the west sid e, say so uih of Oxford .
Co un ci l Membe r Yurchick said 1 hate 10 be labo r thi s. but I wan t 10 understand . Mayo r Bradsha w sai d,
plt:a se do . th :i t 's 1hr: purpo se ofa Pub lic He.iring .
Co un cil '.\!ember Yurchi ck asked ifCi1y ofEng l~wood re sidents, west of Broadway, are in Li1tlc 1on·s or
Engle wood's rote di str ict. Mr. Fond a ad vised th .i t they are in South Eng lewood's Sanitation Di s1 1c t and
1hcy arc pnrl of ou r sys tem.
Co uncil ~!e mber Yurchi r k as ked if everyt hing , ea st of Broadwa y. is in 1he Engle wood collection area. Mr
Fonda stud yes. 1hc entire Ci ty is con 1roll ed by Englewood regard less of the di stric 1 lhe y are m. E\'crything
in En glewood is part of our syste m. althou gh parts ofit are pa rt of districts . Mr. Yurchick sai d th en th e
sa me 1s tnic fo r Littlet on; whatever is c~-:: of Broadwa y in Littleton is co ll ected by Litth!t on. Is tha t
corrccl'! ~'Ir. Fonda said yes. the two citie s control through th ei r own populat ion .
Ma yor Brad show asked if there were any oth er questions fo r Director Fonda .
Dire ctor Fonda said we wou ld be happy to go ove r an y of thi s with any citize n if they would like to co me
and have it exp fai ned .
Ma yo r Bradshaw asked 1f any of the citizens wh o spok e befo re like 10 speak again.
Mr . Goold said I app rec1a 1c hi s effo rt to 1ry and u plam it. bu t itjus1 se rves 10 confuse me all th e more .
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Mr. Goo ld said I would ho ve 3pprc citued some son of map , yo u know , where he cou ld poi nt oul the se
difTeren1 di s1ric 1s. I mean 1his co uld not be more confu sing 10 me . He thanked Co unci l Member Yurchick
for asking hi s que stions. I could sec, he said , thal you were a littl e bi t concerned 100. I wou ld like to try to
encourage Co unci l 10 ma ybe con1inu e 1his, he said , to hav e a littl e more opponunity for public input and
pro vide a better layo ut for poo r. dumb people like me to get a better understanding. Especia ll y, he said,
with 1he who le 55%/45 % and where doc s who , de what :ind those projections arc based on tod:iy. Maybe
it's 55 %/45% 1oday but what about in 20 yea rs? I'm not sure what be nefit we're getting out of tho se tap
fees that Litt leto n's paying for . Arc we gelling any benefit out of1h;11'! And ifso, for examp le, what's
going to happen in 20 yea rs for people on fixed incomes . I'm sorry, but I just don't get it
Mayor Bracl show said would it hdp if Mr . Fonda met w11h yo u? Mr . Goold said I think it would help me ,
but wha1 about everybody el se '! Mayor Bradshaw said I'm concerned about you 100 . Well , Mr. Goold
said. I appreciate th:u. I rea ll y do , but yo u know, unfonun:11el y. it's no ! all up to me . Mayor Bradshaw said
I know .
Council Memb:r Garrett sai d wlrnt ifwe had a mee ting 10 explain the rate s. However, I don't know how
man y people wou ld attend .
M.i yor Br.idshaw .i grc '!d that we co uld have a mee ting to explain the rates.
Mr . Goo ld asked what vou ld happen if the rates didn't increase'! Wh:u wou ld hnppcn 10 Eng lewood
re side nt s•.: How would they be impacted if we didn 't get on board with this?
Co uncil Member \V olo syn s.i id one thing that Stu Fonda sa id and Doug G:men reit era ted , is th:i t .,1e
regula1ions about what we mu st put back into the South Platte Ri ve r ha ve r.lumged. so we have 10 make
improve ment s on our wastewater 1rea1ment focilit y. no matter wh:tt . And . she n< 1· d. we have all been
bencfi1in g fr om ver y low rate s for a very long lime .
Mr . Goo ld said right no w it seems like a good deal , 55 %145 %, but in 1he future. obvio usly, thn1 is goi ng to
change . Li11\e1 011 is growing so rapid ly that the y're going to out pace us.
Direc tor Fond:i said the fo rmula. wi ll cho.nge yea rl y. [n ot her word s. ri ght now it is 55%145%. but as the
ratio chan ges, your bill, of co urse, will cha nge . Mr. Goo ld sa id okay, but that wasn't made oppa rc,11 and I
ha ve a 101 of ot her questions that I could take up a lot more time with. but I'm sure you ha ve 01her things to
do . At lea st I had thi s opponunity 10 speak. I just hat e to see thi s thing snowball . He s.1id I thank you for
explaining th at to me. but still ii's not readil y :ipparent be ca use of all the differenl district s. Again, what
1.fr Yurch ick was gcn in g a1 wa s how man y districts docs Englewo od proper encompass'! Is tha: one
district?
Mr . Yurchi ck sai d I think where my confusio n was, w.is when the y talk ed about the Engl ewood piece, I
tend ed to think of Englewood proper, when that 's reall y not the right thought process . There is a lot more
to what the y're ca lling Englewood .
Mr. Goo ld said that 's right. exactly . My sister live s off of abou t Havana and Orchard and she has an
Eng lewood addre ss. Bl· he said. as for as I know. she doesn 't pay any t.i xes 10 Englewood . I asked her
today ... who she signs her chec ks to for wate r and she said Denver.
Co uncil Member Wolos yn said everyone who is on our wa stewater 1reatmen1 sys tem will be receivi ng
these increa ses. It 's nol j ust 1he City of Eng lewood .
Mr . Goo ld sai d I'm not just concerned about thal . Ms . Wol osyn replied. but yo u seem 10 be ba si ng your
arithmeti c on the Cit y and how it fi1 s in . Mr. Goold said, that's the whole 1hing, tha1 's something I've been
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:,o co nfu sed about Wh ere does Englewood stop an~· i...egin and wh11 1 kind of benefit s are peo ple ge ll ing
ve rsus wha1 the y're paying in ? For exa mple , my sis ter , she 's got an Englewood address .
M11yor Brad sha w stud bu ! 1ha1 is Ce ntennial or unincorpor:ued Ar:ip:i hoc Co un ty .
Mr . Goold s:i id okay. Thi s is where my confu !,io n comes in.
Ma yo r ll rads h:i w cx ploincd 1hc thin g 1ha1 is co nfu si ng is the po s1 offi ce addres ses.
Co un ci l ~!ember Yu rchick asked Direc tor Fonda if th e syste m run s clea r down to Park Meado ws. Mr .
Fo nd:1 repl ied yes it does . Mr . Yurc hic k sa id , so what I mea ns is that it 's not just a little sys tem, it 's a bi g
sys tem.
Mr . Goold so.id I gue ss as long as you know that my main conce rn is !hat it be equitable in the future and
again. I have a co ncern for the peo pl e on fi xe d income s, whic h is where I am going to be in 20 years. I
guess J 'w made t1bou t as much stink as I can here. he said .
fa yo r Bradsh aw saiJ no . you are doing fine .
Co unci l ~lcmbcr Garre ll saiJ let rne reit erate . If you think you wo uld show up and we could ge t other
peop le 10 anc1KI a pri:sema ti on. we could !et that up . Be cau se, he said. we had a very good presentati on
and "e ca me in wi th simil:lr co nce ms. don 't think we didn 't I mean when yo u look at the rate increases
and yo u go. wh:11'! And after the prescn1a1ion. we wen1 through all the numbers, we go t co mfortabl e that it
was fa ir to the citize ns and we found out we would. ac tu ally, still be at the low end of the rate s. I mean , it
100 k us a wink toge· he re . just like it will take an yo ne. It seems lik e that ma y be a worthwhi le endeavor,
he said . 1lyou think it wo uld help . for the three people here that made co mments. as well as anyo ne else
1ha1 mi ght be in1crcs 1ed . That's II better fomm 10 help go into th e more specific questions that yo u have , he
sa id . because th at way 1hc y can have the map s and show you how ii works .
Mr. Goold said if we don ·1 ha ve the op lio n of h:i vin g Li nl eton pa yi ng for thi s ... di spro portionate, 10 offse t,
al lea s! in10 1hc fu ture, 1hen. I gue ss I 'II be comfortable with it. He thank ed Co unci l fo r their time .
Ma yor Brad shaw thank ed Mr. Goo ld .
~k Anderso n said. one fi nal qu es tio n. Is th is going to be a new st and-al one facility or is it an :iddition to
whai"s alread y existing? Mayor Brad sha w replied that it 's in addition 10 what is already there. Mr .
Anderson said all ri gh 1. now what ha pp ens later down the road to the exis 1ing system that we have now?
What mone y tears 1ha1 down and rep laces it 131er on? Beca use, obviously. it 's aged . Is that included in the
pri ce that we're looking at right now?
Direc to r Fonda st1 id we ha ve don e fai rly extensive stud ies showi ng what we nee d 10 do 10 keep th e µ!ant
fr om detcnora 1ing and we have in cl uded that in this pa cka ge. there is a good portio n for that. Mr.
Anderson said demo li1 io n. Dire cl r Fonda said no. not demol it io n. All of the fa cili ties , that we ha ve !here
now, are lo ng-term fa ci litie s. Mr. An er son asked if the y wi ll rerru:iin . Mr. Fo nda answered ~es. bu! we.
ha ve c~lculated what we need, lik e pump s wearing out and not being repl ace d. We are goi ng around
systemat ic all y 11nd re pai ring roofs. replacing ma chinery 111 a sys tematic bt1sis . Part of thi s is being done :is
pan of 1l11s proJec t and then when thi s project stops. we :o ntinuc domg tha t as a hi gh le ve l of op erati on and
maimenan ce so the plant doe s not dete rio rate . Beca use. he exp la ined. it is much more expensive 10 fi x it
after th ose fa cili11e s deteriora.1e .
Mr . Anderson sai d so 1he exis tin g pl ant will be inco rporated . as much as poss ibl e, in to the new fa cili ty .
Mr. Fo nda said 101ull y incorponued , yes . We did a ma ster plan in 1985 Oec ause , just what yo u spo ke abo ut
ht1d been 3 maJor prob lem and ,r that poi nl , we laid out the plan! that would serve the en tire drainage basi n.
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When it 1s fo ll y built out he said. we added so me cus hi on to all ow for an increa se of densities. if th at
shoulJ occur . Because these :ue the foci liu es thal yo u don't wan! tu ha vc-10 bcild twice . The y a rc
ex1remcl y ex pensive 10 build t \\ ice .
Mr. Anderso n sa id. I just wanted to make sure we we re no1 looking at :m add,u on,ll fee later on do wn 1hc
road 10 demolis h what is exis tin g now .
Mayor Bradshaw !hanked Mr . Anders•Jn .
Co un ci l Memb.:r Grazu li s said I j u_!:~ hove a co mment that perhap !. one th ing tl,Jt mig ht help would be tours
of our focililies for the public. W.: cou ld ha ve th em opt:n, during thi s ~:me , so th ey can actua ll y see wh :u
exis ts and what wou ld be happ r ,1ing and perhap s where. Becau se. sht: said, I \vas qui1e impresse d mys elf
when I we nt 1hrough our faciliue s. That is just a sugges tion , a co mment. she sa id .
Mr . Douna y said after all of thi s, I still ha ve rwo qv·s1io ns . Now I und""rs tand that the reason for the
in..:reased rates is to deal with rr iulalory requirements . I have no problem wi j) that whatsoeve r. What I
don't unde rsta nd . he sa id. whal l haven ·1 heard an answer 10 yet , is the jus1 ific 2tl'n for the Cit y of
Engle woud residents to pay for th e increase. fo r th e co st for increased capaci ;y or th e plant for pe ople
omside th e C it y. That 's one thin g. The other thing I ha ven 't heard an ans w :r to is justification in th e rate
sc he dule for differeni type s of re sidenc es , wheth er it be a mobile home. or a si nglt" famil y or an apnnmcn1,
becau se when yo ur talk ing abou 1 a very small home for a res id ence type number, yo u have 10 know that ,
that number would fit any one of those situations . So those are the two ke y questions I ha ve outslandin g at
thi s point. he sa id .
Ma yor Brads haw asked Mr. Fonda to address Mr . Douna y's que stior,~.
Mr . Fonda said. regardi ng the seco nd que st:.on, 1ha1 ba sica ll y we charge: SL 00 il 1000 g.ill ons for winter
water sewage usag e. 1 ;:~ ra1e mble arc 0·1ly for odd exc epti ons. If W-! tud a 1railer hou!c 1h31 isn't meter
or pan of so me odd hi s1oric.:.i co nglomera,ion ofp1pes that we c:m't gel :1 rneter in . He ex plained that
we've h11d 1hcs e table s. hi s1oric .~,l y. 10 be ,,bl c to addre ss the odd si tuati on. But ba sica ll y.just about
cveryo nc . exce pt the flat rate water c ustonw 'lj, ore now charged simpl y on the wi nt er warer usage . On the
other question. which was. are our citize ns, 11 fa ct. sub si dizi ng th e capaci1y additi on. As I indicated earli er.
our sh:ire of the capa ci ty addition is about S3CJ milli on and we ha ve co ll ec ted lap fe es in advan ce that :1Ie
equal 10 nearly S20 million over the pa st ye Jrs. I think th e lap fees that arc pa;J by new cuslomers, as
opposed to Eng lewood ci ti zens vers us outside City citizens, is reall y old customers versm new . And l
think 1he tap fee s were rai sed substantiall y, years ago . 10 ha ve capa ci ty addition s paid for by new growth
and we ore ve ry close to doi ng that The fee s fr om the lop fe es go 10 pa y offbondr and that reall y makes up
th e diffen:n cc bcrween the $30 million and th e S20 mill io n that's alrea dy there m cash. But , he noted . we
ha v<" co llecu:d the se an d that ha s been fa ctored into the cash nows th:u fi gures the rate s that we need . lf we
didn 't ha ve th e $20 million th:u we ha ve co llected fr om 1ap fee s. th e ra<e hikes wo uld be sub stan1 ia ll y
hi gher ri ght now ... 1he one s th at we :ire propos ing .
Ma yo r Brad shaw thanked Mr. Fonda .
Bru ce McDowell, 3250 South El:i1i S1rec1, said I gue ss my queslion probabl y goes to Mr . Ga ll age r. I think
I he ard him say that ne xt year, we need SS00.000 .00 to pn y for our immediate use, or so methin g to th'l'
a1Tcc1. And I gue ss my que stio n is . is th at SS00.000.00 for every bod y and was there tha 1 much gr0\1 .hi s
yea r or did that mone y pa y tho! bill this year or are we $800,000 .00 shon next year?
Mayor Bradshaw said one 1h111g I can soy is the regu lations have chang ed and we have to go to 11 different
level of1 rc:11m en1 lnd 1ha1 costs money .
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Mr . McDowel l so id 1h 01 ha sn·1 been buill ye t. Is thn1 righ t'! Tha t 's the $3 1 million '! Ma yo r Bradshaw sn id
th at 's rig h1. Mr. McDowe ll asked if that will happen next year.
Cit y Manage r Sc ars ad vi sed th ot that will happen in co nj uncti on with th e co nstruction project.
Co un cil Member Gorrell sa id Mr. McDowe ll is askin g about the operoting budget shonfall. which require s
the rate increase tod ay . That , I believe , is the qu esti on he is asking . Mr . McDo \\'cll said th at is my
questio n.
Ma yo r Bradshaw asked if Mr. Ga ll ager wo ul d respond th e Mr. McDowell 's question .
Mr . Ga ll ager said th :1 1 we look ed at the co mp:i!l so n of revenue frnm existi ng rat es and fees and we
co mpared that with proJect cd cos t in 2003. and thi s is before th e treatment plant addi tio n. This is just the
cost of doing bu sine ss rig h1 now. Th ere 1s. he stated . a projecte d S800.00 0.00 shonfoll in the abili ty of
exi stin g ra tes and fe t.•s to me et tho se proje cted expenses.
Ma yo r Orad sh:iw ask ed if that answere d ~-Ir . McD owe ll 's qu es 1ion. It is th e opera tin g co sts that have
cha nged. she said . ~tr. McDowell said okay .
Co unci l l\•lcmber \Volosyn said I just wanted 10 go back to Mr. Douna y·s second point. Remem ber when
he origina ll y asked the que stion , tha t he said il :ipp eared. in look ing :it the tables. that in the area out of the
City of Englewood , that 1heir ra te was cheaper than our rat e. th eir Oat rate . That th ei r rate was smaller than
th!! ci ti zen's nat rate .
Direc tor Fonda said tha1 is wha1 I was explai ning abou1 th e co ll ec1ion sys tem cost. We charge everyone the
same unit co s1 for sewage trca1m cnt. TI1e re arc no nat rate ,: ou tsi de tl1 e Cit y. The y are all met ere d, but we
wou ld app ly that Oat rat e table if. say. one of 1hem ha d.:. probl em 1ha1 we co uldn ·1 fi x. we mi ght use that as
the charge or if th eir meter didn't work or something like that. I'd like al so to :idd re!l!I one of th e reasons
we're findin g some discrepancy in the inc -me. he said . TI1e 20% re:illy is needed fo r us 10 nuke projected
coverage requirement s fo r our e.xis1ing bond s. Th :i mea ns our operating costs have to be so high . Po n of
the problem is 1ha1 the: re ven ue s that we were receivin g from interest earned on our money. tha t we had
been bankin g. has dropped dramatically, as I think you're all aware . We were making probably in the
range "f5% and nnw we're down to I ½% or 2%, Th:it was pan of the amount. plu s not ha ving r:i1c hike s
for 20 yea rs. m0ation is finally ca tching up with us , he sa id .
Ma yo r Brad shaw asked if there was an yone else who wanted 10 addres s Co un cil on this issue . There was
no one .
COUNC IL MEMDf.R GARRETT MOHD. AND IT WA S SECONDED, TO CLOSE THE P UBLIC
HEARI NG TO GAT HE R P UBLIC I NP UT ON COUNC IL DILL NO . 45 , AUTHORIZING A
SEWER RA TE IN CREASE.
Ayes:
Na ys :
Absent
Council Members ~abho lz, G:i rrcn. Wolo syn. Yurchick. Gra zuli s,
Bradshaw
No ne
Co unci l Member ~'1oorc
~fou on ca rrie d a11d the Pub lic Hea nng closed.
Mayo r Brads haw thank ed everyo ne for coming . I ;i pprccia1e ii. she said ,
I 0. Co nse nt Ag enda
• AGENDA ITEM 10 (o) (h·) WAS P ULLED FROM THE C ONSDIT AGENDA.
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CO UNC Ii. MEMBER GARRETT MOV ED , AND IT WAS SEC O NDED , TO APPROVE
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 10 (•) (I), (II) ond (Ill), 10 (b) (I), (II) ond (Ill), 10 (<) (I).
{a) Approva l or Ordinances on First Read in g
(i) COUNC IL BILL NO . 46. INTRODUCED BY COUNC IL MEMBER
GARRETT
A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZ ING ACCEPTANCE OF A $9,500.00 GRANT FROM TH E
CO LORADO DEPARTMENT OF LOCAL AFFA IRS (DO LA) FOR ENTE RPRISE ZONE
MARKETING AND ADMINISTRATION .
(ii) COUNC IL BILL NO . 48 , INTRODUCED BY COUNC IL MEMBER
GARRETT
A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COLORADO
DEPA RTME NT OF TRANSPORTAT ION FOR DES IGN AND CONSTRUCT ION OF SIDEWALKS ON
BELLEV IEW AVE "E I THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD, COLORADO .
(iii) COUNC IL BIL L NO . 49, INTROD UCE D BY COUNC IL MEMBER
GARRETT
A BILL FOR AN ORDINAN CE APPROVING AN AGRE EMENT WITH THE COLORAD O
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR DESIG N AND CONSTRUCTION OF SID EWALKS ON
SOUT H UN IVE RSI TY BOU LEY ARD IN THE CITY OF ENG LEWOOD, COLORADO.
(b) Approva l or Ordinances on Second Rendin g
(i) ORDI NANCE NO . 44, SEPIES OF 2002 (COUNC IL BILL NO . 38,
INT RODUCED BY COUNC IL MEM BER WOLOSYN)
AN ORD INANCE APPROVING TH E PLANNED UN IT DEVELOPME NT (PUD) FOR THE SHOPS AT
HAMPDE N AND LOGAN PLA NNED UN IT DEV ELOPMENT, IN THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOC ,
COLOAADO .
(ii) ORD INANCE NO . 45 , SERIES OF 2002 (COUNC IL BILL NO . 42,
INTRODU ED BY COUNC IL MEMBER GRAZULIS)
AN ORD INANC E AMEND ING TITLE 7, CHAPTER 68 , SECT ION 6; TITLE I I, CHAPTER 3,
SECTION 3 (B); AND TITLE 16, CHAPTER 4, SECT IO NS 10, 12, AND 19; AND CHAPTER 8, F
THE ENGLEWOOD MUNICIPAL CODE 2000, PERTAINING TO PUBLIC SIDEWALK SALES OR
FARMER"S MARK.ET .
(iii) ORDINANCE NC'. <6, SE RIES OF 2002 (COUNC IL BILL NO . 47 ,
INTRODUCED BY COUNC IL MEMBER WOLOSYN)
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AN ORD INANCE EXTENDING THE SIX-MONTH TEMPORARY SUSPENSION OR
MORATORIUM ON THE ISSUANCE OF PERMITS FOR NEW SINGLE FAM ILY ATTACHED AND
MULT I-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL CONS TR UCT IO N, OR ANY HO US ING REQUIRING THE
Si1BDIVI SION OF PROPE RTY, IN THE AREA LOCATED BETWEEN WEST EVANS AVENUE ON
i HE NO RTH , WEST VASSAR A VENUE ON THE SOUTH, SOUTH TEJON STREET ON TH E EAST
AND SOUTH ZUN I STREET ON THE WEST, FOR AN ADDITIONAL SIX MONTHS . •
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tc} Re so lution s :ind Mouons
(i) RESOLUTION '0 . 90, SERIES OF 2002
A RE OLUTION APPL YING FOR FUND ING OF S200,000 FOR THE HOUSING REHAB ILI TAT ION
PROJECT FROM THE COLORADO DIVISION OF HO USING .
Vote results :
Mo11 011 ca rr'.ed .
Ayes : Cou ncil Members N:ib holz. Garrett , Wolo syn, Vurc hi ck. Gr:izulis ,
Bradshaw
None
Coun cil Member Moore
10 (:1) {iv) A recommendation fr om th e Parks :i nd Rec reatio n Department to adopt
:i bi ll fo r :m ord in ance ap prov in g on agreeme nt with a co ncess ionaire to operate the Indoor Lea ming Ce nter
al the Englewood Golf Co urse was considered . Directo r Black exp lained that thi s is :i concessio n
ag re ement. where we wi ll lease ou t the Indoo r Teaching Facili ty to :i private vendor . Mr. Vurc hick asked if
it is th e comp ut er go lf th ing . Mr. Bl ack said th:it is correc t.
Mayor Bradshaw thanked D1rec1 or Bla ck.
COUNC IL MEMBER YU RCHI CK MOVED , AND IT WA S SECO NDED , TO APPRO VE
CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 10 (a) (h·).
COUNC IL BILL , 0 . 53. INTRODUC ED BY COUNC IL MEM BER YURC HI CK
A BILL FOR AN ORD INANCE APPROV ING TH E LEASE AGREE\1F NT Br.TWEEN THE CITY OF
ENGLEWQC>I'. CO LOPJ\00, AND --TNT TRAINING FOR GO LF .. FOR TH E LEASE AND
OPERATION OF ihc ENGLEWOOD GOLF COU RSE INDOOR TRA INING CENTER .
Vo te res ults :
Ayes:
Nays :
Absent:
t\fo 1ion carried .
11 . R egu lar Age nd a
Co un cil Memb ers Nabholz, Garre tt , Wolosyn , Yurc l,i ck. Grazu li s,
Bradshaw
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Counci l Member Moore
(a) Approva l of Ordinanc es on Fi rst Reading
(i) Senior Planne r Lan go n prese nted a reco mm end atio n from the Co mmuni ty
Devcl op me111 Dl·partment 10 adopt a bill fo r :in ordinance app rovi ng 1hc nive rsit-y Homes Pl anned Unit
Deve lopme nt and she requested Council set a public hearing for Nove mbe r 4, 2002 to ga th er input on th e
Planm .. ·d Uni 1 Development This is a rezoni ng from R-1-A to Planned Unit Developme nt by oppl ic ant
David Di Pane 10 develo p 4 si ng le-famil y lo1s thBl arc accessed off of South Uni vers ity Boule vard, she said .
It 1s a .88 acre parce l III th e nonhcast pan or Eng lewood, basica ll y at Sou th University and East Dartmouth
Avenue . This propenv.1 mi ght add. she said. also will ha\'e a subdi vis ion . Th e subdivi sion . howeve r. is
prcdico1cd on approva l of 1he Planned Unit De velop men 1, ;ince the Planned Unit Deve lopmen t establ ishes
the zo ne d1 siri cts :am! 1he re qu 1rcmcn 1s of the di stric ts. We · ca n't subdivide propcny u111 il the district
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requiremen ts are estab lis hed , she exp la ined. so thnl will co me as 11 rcso lu1 io n, in 1.:onj uncti on wit h the PUD
if it's appro\'c d.
Ma yo r Orndshaw asked if 1hi s is the areajusl nonh of1 he church . Ms. Langon rrplied that is correc t, it 's
the \'acan l lot.
Ma yor Orndshaw asked if there were an y ques tions or Ms. Langon.
Counci l Membl!r Ga rrett sa id I sa w the 101 sizes . Abou1 what size hous e wou ld go on a lot th is size'! Would
it probab ly be a two-s tor y'! Ms. Lango n sai d a two-story. The y arc asking to sli gh1l y exc eed the heigh!
limit in 1hc current R-1-A regulati ons. bu t th at is th e purpose of th e PUD ... 10 provide so me fl exib11i 1y in
stand ards .
Co uncil Membe r Ga rren :isked what sq ui'lrc foota ge are th ey looking at Ms . Lan go n ex pl ained that square
foo la ge is de penden t on wheth er it is a sin gle-family or sing le li tary or two -sto ry. What the y arc doing is
se ttin g a buil din g etwelope . an area in ···li ich 1he house can be built . As for 35 square foota ge. she sa id, the y
o:-e proba hl y looking at 2000 plu s. The y are goi ng 10 be l:1 rgcr homes , she said , but ilgai n, the P UD is not
stiltin g tha t. Mr. Garren said I undr t:.tand, but it gives us an idea of the type of developme nt we are
loo king at. Ms. Lango n rep li eJ, 111rger homes, yes .
Mayor Bradshaw said th ose lots arc comparab le 10 so me of those on Eas t Danmouth Plac e". Ms . Langon
sai d they arc sli ghtl y smaller. Aga in . the re is th e flexibilit y iss ue . Bec ause of the shape of1he property ... il
is a long nnrro w prope rty ... th e onl y way it co uld be de ve loped, curren tly, is wi th one si ngl e-fa mil y home
or it co uld be s ubdi vided, in whi ch case yo u would hav e gu ile a long property. What ~1iey are propos ing is
to provide an access drive fo r the four houses . Ma yo r Bradsha w said :i cul -de-sac. W s. Langon replied
that 's ri yht.
Mayor Bradsha w asked if !here were :m y 01her qu es tions. There wcrr none .
Ma yo r Brad sha w thanked Ms. Langon .
COUNCIL MEMBER WOLOSYN MOVED , Al'ID IT WA S SECONDED , TO APPROVE AGEN DA
ITEM II (u)(I) -COUNC IL BILL NO . 54 AND TO SET A PUBLIC HEARING FOR NOVEMBE R
4, 2002 TO GATHER CITIZE N INPUT ON THE PLANNED UN IT DEVELOPMENT.
COUNC IL BIL L NO . 54, INTROD UCE D DY COUNC IL MEMBE R WO LOSYN
A BILL FOR AN ORDINA NC E APPROVING THE UN IVERS IT Y HOMES PLANNED UN IT
DEVELO PM ENT (PLl D) AT '055 SOUT H UN IVERS ITY BOULEY ARD IN THE CITY OF
E 'GLE WOOD , CO LORA DO .
Vote results :
Mo1ion ca rried .
Ayes :
ays :
Absent :
Co un ci l Members Nnbholz, Garrett, Wol os yn, Yurchick. Grazu li s,
Bradsha w
No ne
Co un ci l Member Moore
(b) Approva l of Ordi nances on Second Rea ding
There were no add itional items submitted for approval on second rea ding. (See Agencb Item 10 -Co nsent
Agenda .)
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(c:) Re solut ions :ind Mo tions
(i) Housing Fin3ncc Spe cial ist Grimmett pre se nt ed 11 re co mmendati on fr om 1hc
Co nununi ty Development Dep:inment 10 adop t a re so lutio n app roving 11 $200 ,000 .00 Grant 10 the Western
Arap ah oe Co un1y Home less Alli ance (\VACHA) for 1he Acquisi1ion or 330 1 Sou1h Gron , Street Thi s
rcq uc-s t was made by the St ate of Co lorado , she sa id , to 11ssis 1 them in co mpleting their approvJI of grani
fund s th at. unfortunatel y, were cu t by the Gove rn or in th e budge t cuts for thi s yea r. The se funds will be
re placed 10 th e Chy by a separate grant that wa s pre viously pa ssed on Co nse nt Age nda , to appl y 10 the
State for Hou~i ng Rehabili tati on funds . So, she said , we arc goi ng 10 be taking Housin g Rehnb funds that
we wo uld ha ve use d in 2003. provide the gran t to the We stern Arapahoe County Homeless Alli:i ncc and
then rcp fo ce th ose fund s with 3 sep:ira te appl ica tion from the Suite . So, Ms . Grimmett said, in essence, it's
bas icall y jusl a pass-through type r f proposition. Ms. Gri mm ett stated th ere is a correction on the
reso luti on th11t Co uncil should ha ve received a copy of. Ma yo r Bra dshaw said Counc il re ceived the ne w
copy .
CO UNC IL MEMBER WOLOSYN MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED. TO APPROVE AGEN DA
ITEM 11 (c) (I)· RESOLUT ION 91 . SE RI ES OF 2002.
RE SO LUTION NO . 9 1. SE RI ES OF 2002
A RESOL TION APPROVl NG THE USE OF COM MUN ITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT
(C DP.G ) F DS FOR ACQUISITI ON BY WESTERN ARAPA HO E COUNTY HOMEL ESS
ALLIAN CE'S HOUSE OF HOP E FAMILY RE SOURCE CENTE R (WATC HA ) OF THE BUILDI NG
LO CATE D AT 330 1 SOUTH GRANT STREET IN THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD , CO LORADO .
Vole results:
Ayes :
Nays :
Absent
Motio n carried .
Ms. Grimmett thanked Council.
Co unci l Members Nabho lz. Garren . Wolosyn. Yurch ic k. Grazu lis .
Bradshaw
No ne
Co un cil Membe r Moore
Mayor Br:idsh:iw thanked Ms. Gnmmen for all her good work .
12. Genera l Di scuss ion
,'a) Ma yo r's Choic e
(i) Ma yor Brads haw ga ,·c kudo s to staff for:,; successful IBIS fire-up . .i t 's great.
Cit y Mana ger Scars sa id it reall y is and Mik e Fiaherty reall y dese rves 3 tre mend ous .i moun t of credit fo r
doi ng tha t. he rea ll y 1s out sta ndi ng.
f,.foyor Br.idsh3w agreed and offered her thanks 10 Assistant Cit y Mnnagcr Flaheny.
(b) Co unci l Members' Choice
(i) Cou ncil Member Yurchi ck sai d l forgot 10 do this at our budget me etin g, but I
wa nte d to thank Fr.ink Gryglewicz and his group. because I as .:e..! for so me additiona l numbe rs th at
answercd il 101 of my ques tions, bu t tht11 did n't really pl :i y in1 0 the disc ussio n that da y.
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City Mana ger Se ars said yes, the y did 3 rea ll y good job and I'll p;:iss that on to them. The y will :ippreciute
that. Mr. Vurchick said I didn 't realize the number of hours tlµ,t ·re quest would require and I do apprccia1c
it.
13 . City Manager's Reporl
Cit y Man age r Sears did not have :my tn.1.tt ers to bring before Coun ci l.
14 . City Attorney's Report
City Attorne y Brotzman did no1 ha ve an y matters to brin g before Council.
15 . Adjournment
MAYOR BRADSHAW MOVED TO ADJOURN. The meeting odjou ed at 8:55 p.m.
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