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ENGLEWOOD CITY COUNCIL
ENGLEWOOD, ARAPAHOE COUNTY, COLORADO
Regular Sess ion
I. ulllo OrJor
The regular mccll nN or the Englewood Ci ty Counc il was called 10 order by Ma yo r Brad shaw at 7:32 p.m.
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Th e 1n voca 11on wus g1vcn by ouncil Member Nab holz .
3. Pledge or All cgluncc
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Alle gia nce .
Boy Scout Troo p #264 from All Soul s Schoo l pre sented the Colors and led the Pledge of
Ma :;or Br.:,1 .>W said 1ha1 wa s exce llent and .;he offered her r'ianks .
Present:
Absent :
A quorum w:u prcscr.1 ,
Council Members Nabholz. Moo re . Grazulis. Garrett . Wolosy n.
Yurch1d. Brad shaw
None
r\lso prescnl: ity Mana ger S ::irs
5. l\·linules
Cily An ornc)' Ormz man
Ass1s 1an1 C1I )' Mnnagcr Fl ahert y
it y lerk Eilt s
Sc.mar Plnnncr Lnngo n, Co mmunity Development
L1cutcna n1 ollin s, Safety Ser vices
Direc tor 01 110n. afc ty Services
Pla :mc r I Fruch 1I . Co mmunit y De velo pmen t
0 1rcctor mpson. Co mmuni1 y De ve lo pment
(a) COUNCIL MEMBER GRAZ LIS MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO
APPRO VE THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR CITY COU CIL MEETING OF NOVEMBER 4,
2002 .
Mayor Brads haw asked if there were any cha nges or co rrecti ons . There were non e.
Vole results:
Ayes:
Nays :
Abs1ai n:
Motio n carried .
Co uncil Members Nabho lz . Garrell . Wolosyn. Yurchick, Orazulis.
Brad shaw
None
Cou nci l Member Moo re
Englewood C il y Co uncil
No,·cmbcr 18, 2002
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6. Schcuu' ti 'i<li ilors
(a) Ma yor Bradsha w sai d we v 11!ettsed thi s e veni ng 10 be honori ng the stud ents who:;e
an work is showca sed in the 200 3 En glewood ~U1 \,, . .:c1 r. ~·11i s :5 the rounh yea r we hnvc fea tured sr ud cnt
artwo rk in our ca lendar, she. said. nnd th e 200 3 Ca lendar alsu Jffcr s a tribute 10 Englewood's hi story , as
next year mark ~ Englewood's Cenicn ni al year To go1 her artw ork fo r th e calendar , the Ci ty hl!ld an a.rt
co ntest 1ha1 was ope n 10 nil stud ent s who li ve or go lO schoo l in Englewood . \Vt: recei ved nearly 200
eni ries, and si.·oecn c nlr h:s we re ch ose n fo r lhc calendar . The Mu seu m of Ou tdoo r Arts hos 1ed an exn ibit
and an An is1s· Rccc p1i on fo r 1he top 50 fina li st. including the 16 winnr rs. The -:alendar an wa s cha en by
a se lectio n panel made up o f Ci ty Co uncil Members and Englewood·s Cl.1 1tural An s Commi ss ion . I ha d the
pleasure of ser vin g on th e scle c11on panel . she sai d. along with Cit y Coum·:I Members Ju lie Grazuli s and
Olga Wol oi.yn : Eric Bcrloluzzi. Chair of th e Englewood Cuhura { A~:-; Ca mmi sio n. and Cu ltur 11l Arts
Commi ssi oners Mar y Lynn Baird. Kale Du lane y. Darrel Free land . Janet Moore. Donna Sch nitzer. Maggie
Stewart . and Ray Tomasso . Kri s Frit zc he. the Ed ucat i'ln Coordina1 or for the Museum of Outdoor Arts. and
Moll y Maginn from Chicken Lip s Co medy also helpc J wi 1h 1he selecli on. Choosi ng j ust 16 piece s of art 10
includ e in the <:alc nd :1r, out of 1hc many wo nd er ful entrie s we received, wa s not an easy ta sk. She offe red
her thank s IO lhc selecti on panel fo r th ei r effort s. I would also like 10 offer a specia l th ank s to th e Cultura l
Art s Comnu ss ion. she said . fN their co n1inu ed e nthu siasti c support of. and ass istance wi th , the studen t an
ca lendar proJe c1. We will~ remrn ing 1hc artt sls" ori ginal artwo rk thi s evening . As yo u can see . we 've had
th e pi ec es maned and framl!d . The o.rt is1s wi ll also receive a :enifica1e or congratulat ions. Co unci l
Membe r Olga Wolos yn will hel p me hand out the certilicates a nd return the artwork thi s evening . Ms.
Wolosy n has been ver y in volved in th e calendar project. I wo uld like 1he anis 1s to come fo rward as I ca ll
you r naml!s . ,H ier 1hc recog nitio n. she sa id . we wo ul d like all th e an ists to ga th er in the lobby outside
Council Chambers so we can ta~e a gro up ph oiograp h of th_c arti sts with their anwork .
Ma yor Brad shaw introduced th e 2003 Cale nd ar anists.
Au:-.t in Boyer is a I~• grader at Madd ox Ele men tary Schoo l. Austin's abstracl acrylic painting
entitled "Oc ea n Fl ower· appears on th e cove r or the cale nd ar . Mayor Brad shaw noted that Austin was
un able 10 attend . as he was sick.
Kay la Eickmann is a 3rd grader at Clay ton Elt'menrar y Sch oo l. Kayla's piece "If I Co uld Fly"
appears in Ja nu ary. The piece wa s inspired by Fai th Rin gold's s10ry qu ills. Kayla came fo rw:ird to re ce ive
her framed art work and certifi cate . She recei ved a ro und of app lau se.
Corina Zdroik is an 8111 grader at Flood Middle Sc hoo l. Corina·s pi ece cn1 i1led "tear" (like
tea rdro p) ap ~ars in the month !Jr Febru:iry . Thi s is a rempcra port rai t in the style or Pabl o Pica sso. Co rin a
came fo rw:1rd 10 recei ve her framed artwork and cenifica1e . She received a round of appla use .
K,1thcrinc Ja ntz is a 2"" iLr at Cla yton Elemen tar y Sch oo l. Katherine's ''\V iggl'f Giggly
Ho use" appear s in March. Kath r c:1m c forward to re ceive her fr:1mcd artwork and certificu te. Sh e
received a ro und of applause .
Eric Vorhee s is a 4lh grader at Maddox Elementary Schoo l. Eric 's "Africa n Bull " is a cra yon
resist dr:1wing in spired by the African talc "\Vh y Mc,squitos Bu zz in Pe ople's Ears." His artwork appears
in Ap ril. Eric came forwa rd 10 rece ive hi s framed art work and cenificate. He received a round of
app lau se.
Mi c:hacl Mund s. a 9111 grader at En glewood Hi gh Schoo l. Mich z:l's etching, en1i1\ed ''The Wisc
Old Man" appears in May. Michael came forward 10 receive hi s framed artwork and ccrlificale . He
re ceived a round of appla use .
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Ju stin Glotzbac h is a 1s1 gpi,k1 .11 Charle s Ha y Elemen 1ar y School. Ju s1in 's .tn wo rk. a paste l :md
co nstructi on paper pi ece c n1itl cd 'Thi: t.1:lpic Tree" appea rs in Jun e. Justin ca me Forward 10 recei ve hi s
fram ed artwork and certifi cate. He received a rou nd of applause.
Mayo r Brad shaw noted th a, we have f.)ur ar1i s1s featur ed in Jul y. The se le cti on panel could n't decide
whi ch pi ece 10 im.:lude. she said, sc they dec ided to use all fo ur of these sun s crafted with chalk and glu e.
The fo ur art is1s arc :
Jos h Heidri ck is a 111 grad e. a 1 All So ul s Element.1ry Sc hoo l. Jos h cam e forward to receive 11 is
fram ed anwork and certifica te. He received a round of a pplause .
Lydi:i Rosen of is a 1s1 grad er at All Sou ls Element ary Sc hoo l. Lydia came fo rwa rd to receive he r
fr amed art wo rk an d ce rtificate. She rec eived a round of app la use.
Brenn a Sa uer is a 111 grader a1 All So ul s Elementary Sc hoo l. Bren na came forward to receive her
fram ed art wo rk and certificate . She rec ei ved a r .. und of applau se.
Jame s Mari on is o. lJ' grade r at All St)U ls El ementar y Sch oo l. James c::ime forwa rd 10 receive hi s
fram ed ::ir1work and certifica 1c . He rece ived a round of ap pl ause .
Kaylee Co thren is a 4th grader at Cla yto n El ement ary Sch oo l. Her artwork ·•Ki ng of th e Serengeti "
uppea rs in Aug.us!. Ka ylee cam e fo rw:rd 10 receive her framed art wo rk and ce rtifi ca1e . She rece ived a
round of applau se .
Dana Diekmeier is a 6th grade r at Flood Middl e Sch oo l. He r artwork . "Not hin g but Tumb le
Weed s and Cac tu ses .. is a landsca pe co lla ge made of torn pieces of pain ted paper. It appears in Seplember .
Da na ca me forwa rd to rct.:cive he, ,ram ed artwork and ce r1ifi ca1e . She recei ved a rou nd of app lau se.
Tega n Moss is a IOth grader al Co lorad o's Fine st Ahernat ivc High Sc'1 oo l. Her print of an African
tribal ma sk ap pea rs in Oct ober . Tega n came fo rwa rd 10 recei ve her framed artwork and cert ifi cate. She
rc ceivt:d a ro und of appl ause.
k ssica Hodges is a 711, grader at Sincl uir Middle Sc hoo l. Her artwork , "Dia de los ~foert os" is
featured in November .
Lani Hurd is an I Ith grader at Co lorad o's Fine s1 Ahern ati ve Hi gh Sch oo l. Lani's pastel drawir.g.
"Life After Demh" appears in December. Lani came forwa rd to rece ive her framed art work and certificate .
S~e rec ei ve d a ro und of app lause.
Ma yo r Brads haw offered 1.:ongra tulati ons 10 all of the student s whose artwo rk is fea tured in the Eng lewood
2003 Ca lendar . We 'd like to offer a very special th ank s 10 1he art teac hers, 1he parents. and the
grandpa ren ts for the ir sup porl of th ese talented arti sts. she said. We also need to offer a big. bi g thanks 10
the 10\:a l bu sinesses who hdpcd spo nso r thi s ye:ir 's calendar : Mose r Printing , A & B Custom Framing , th e
Mu seu m of Out d!')Qr Art s, Co lonial Bank . the Grea ter Englewood Chamber of Comme rce, Co mmunit y
First Nati onal Bank. Gu ys & Doll s. and Cornersto ne Boo ks.
Mayor Brad shaw 1hankcd evcryor1e fo r co ming th is eve ning 10 h'"lp us recog nize th e 2003 Englewood
Cale ndar Artist s. Lei's give 1hem all a round of app lause. she sa id . The y were all give n a round of
app la use.
Ma yo r Brad shaw note d 1herc arc cal ndars avai lab le on !he table in 1he b1ck of :he roo m. so pl ease lake
!iOme home with yo u and enj oy th c:m 1hroughou1 th e co min g year .
(b) Mayor Brad shaw sa id Tom Norto n. Ex ccu1ive Direc 1or of the Co lorado Department of
Tran spo ruui on wa s here lo night 10 pre se n1 Co un cil with an award fo r "$man Mo ves -Transportation
Strategi c:s for Sma rt Gro,\1h" fro m 1he Ameri ca n Assoc ia 1ion of State Highwa y and Transpo rtal ion
Eng lewood Ci ty Co un cil
Novem ber 18. 2002
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Officia ls. She no1ed thal we also have Jim Za\'iS I. o ur RTD Represe ntat ive and Bo'..> Tonsing wi1h us thi s
evening .
ri.-ir. Norlon said ii is rea lly a pleasur\! for me 10 be ab le to presen t this 10 you . II was ac 1uo.l\y eve n a liule
bit more run for me 10 go 10 Anchorage. Alaska whe re the Na tio nal AAS HTO Co nfere nce was and I got to
co ll ec t this. on beha lf of RTD and th e Ci ty. h wo.s my 1hought th at wit h all o f yo ur effort s wit h th e
Ci1yCe n1 er Projec t. it was more de se rvi ng 10 be: in the Englewood Cit y Hall . than to be ga ther in g dust in
either of our arc hi ves so me place . We ore ve ry pro ud or th e jail yo u have do ne with th e CityCcnter Proje ct
and inco rporu u ng th e Ligh1 Rai l faci lhi es m1 0 the program and mak in g it a iranspo rtatio n hub . It was rc :.Uy
a rat her easy o ne 10 put toge ther in term s of a Nat io nal Award . It is a Nationa l Awa rd fro m the American
Associa ti on of Siate Hi i1-hway and Transpor1ation Official s and you we re com~ting with all 50 sta les that
had numerous enir ies . This is fo r a Smart Grow1h Prog ram that th al orga ni zatio n spo nso rs each year . We
:i re very prl'ud th al we·re ab le IO prese nt th is 10 the Ci ty of Englewood . I th ink this is a projec 1 that we use
that shows wha t cooperatio n anct tran spo rtati on de velopment and groW1 h deve lopm e nt ca n do . • \.1.'0 uld li ke
10 have eith er Mr. Zav ist and/or Mr. Te nsin g say a co uple of wo rd s, becau se th ey have a lot more 10 do
with the tran s1>0 rt a1ion si de. in many wnys. th nn we did. as highway engi neers work ing to make o.ll 1he
pieces lit togcl her .
Mr. Za visl said I do not have a who le 101 10 offer. as my predecesso rs were the one s who ac tu all y did 1he
work on th is. I'll let Bob Tensing ad dre ss Co un ci l beca use he ha s bee n on the Boa rd a lot longe r 1han I
ha ve. He offe red his cong ra tulatio ns.
Mr . To nsin g said I've gm 10 1ell vou 1h a1 I thi nk back 10 the day th at we all ga th ered 10 see the wrecking
ball knock down the firs t pJrl of Cinderella Ci ty. and it wo ul d have bee n hard fo r me to imagit1c what you
folks did wi 1h it. Bui . he po int ed out , thi s is o Na tio nal Award and I th ink it's j ust o ne of man y yo u will
receive as yo u move forwa rd . I 1hink there arc more 10 co me. Believe me . he sa id . yo u have rece ived some
internati onal at1cn 1ion as we ll and thi s is indeed a model oftran s•o rient ed develo pm e nt. I've seen so me
aroun J the co unt ry 1hat ca ll ed th emse lves that. but yo u have 10 wond er if 1:1cy re all y are. Thi s one, he sa id,
rea ll y is . He offe red his co ngratula ti ons.
Mr . Norto n sa id l would like to recog nize Cal Mar se ll a. Bob Simpso n. Ga ry Sea rs and some of the ot her
people who helped make all of thi s happen. Also Tom Burn s. !he Ci1y·s previ ous Mayor, he sa id . ceno.i nl y
deserves somc recogmlion kr wha l you have acco mp lished here and we are very pro ud of ii.
Ma yo r Bradshaw lh :tnked Dire ctor No rt on.
(c ) Eug ··ne Norma n, 4840 Sou th Hu ro,i Street, sa id that th e wo rd op timum in the dictionary
is defined as ··1 he bcs1 or mos t favorab le cond it io n. degree. or amou nt fo r a particular si tuatio n." We have a
Repub li can majl.. y now . Genera ll y speaking . we must change our sys tem from one of maximal to one of
optimal co nsumpti on. Optimum co nsumpti on imp lies a vas t change in ou r thinkin g as Americ ans. ' vast
..:hange in indu~try. ag ric uhure. po liti cs and the individual mind. Th ree hundred and fift y billi on dollars fo r
home defen ~c c,m easi ly defi ne peace and put pe ace int o operation if spen t prope rl y. If spen t imp rope rl y it
co uld define o ur demise. Prod uctio n patterns ca n be changed. almos l ins tantl y if we decide to do ii to the
bcnc!lit of all. The prod ucti on of co mm odi ties fo r 1he public become the norm. not the exception . Sch oo ls,
food. theaters. librar u.:s, parks. hosp ital s. public trnn spo rt , housi ng. !ht! ar1 s ... all beco me possib le. Building
goodwil l and helpi ng other cou nt ries huild. rather than bo mbing rhem inl o oblivio n, becomes possib le.
Homo co nsumen s ma:d mu s ca n neve r be sa ti sfi ed . Obesity and fea r ev oke greed and ve raci ousness ad
infini tum. withou t a pa use for pl ay . Pla y is sub verted in 5:00 o"dock ru sh hl .r. In yo ur rush to co ntrol
tim e. time c:nds by contro llin g yo u. You mu st all become awa re ol 1na1 fact. A chan ge from maximum 10
op tim al. two little words. will not only ahe r produc ti on patterns , but ..:reate a reduct ion of appe tile-whcning.
brainwas hing technique s of ad ve rti sing and a c,•ltural change be yo nd obesity. Society secs obes it y as a
diern ry problem ; a ,alysis shows it 10 be the crea ti on of our maxi mum consu mpl io n phil osop hy. whi ch in
turn is th e prod uct of Capi tali sm. We hum ans have been train ed 10 run li ke hell and re mai n in one place
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and fea r keep s us 1here . We can ne ver get full bect1 use maximum co nsump1i on does n01 all ow fulln ess; ii
docs nm all ow sa 1i sfoc 1ion . Opt imal co nsumpti on sim ply ens ures fullne ss and sa tisfac ti on. Th e princip le
of irratio nal uu1horit y based on power and cxplo ita 1ion mu st be repl :u:cd by a rati onal auth ority based on
mankind und hi s abi lity 10 absorb a higher ed uca ti on and ne t on ii. Co nsider my ima gi nali on combined
wi 1h yo ur courage and I sec new poss ib ili1 ies. a new America. a new culture 1ha1 is nol base d on greed and
subco nsci ous fou r. Greed cons umpti on and prcs li £e consum pli on ca n disappear as n bad dream. Thre e
hundred and fi fl ) billio n dolla rs spe nt no1 on t1rms . bu1 on peace, by that creative part tha1 exis ts wi1hin us
all and the wo rld i1sc lf ca n find 1h :11 Garden of Eden be yo nd th e hell 1ha 1 fo rm s yo ur li ves now. The wa ll s
of 1hc ma ze yo u are runnin g in ore not high al all and easily surm ou nted wi 1h bu1 linl e co urage . It is simpl y
ubjcc1i ve reali1y that I present All you ne ed do is ac1. In yo ur nex 1 traffic jam. mcdiia 1e on what I have
prcsc mcd ... 1hcn ac t. ac 1. act. In voca tio n is a word too . Seek war? You ca n get it Seek peac e and yo u ca n
get it. All is change and all chan£C is simp ly im age and the image yo u crea1 e ~co mes th e life you li ve.
Th e ddinition of a Repub li c is "a co nsti1u1i onal fo rm of gove rnm en t. especi all y a Democ rati c one ." The
dcfini 1io n of Dcmocra 1ic is "pertainin g to, en co mp as sing. or promo1ing th e interes ts of the peopl e;
pe rsuaded of or prac 1icing soci al eq ual i1y; nm sno bbi sh." We mu st ac hi eve a stale of be ing. ac 1ing in
accu rd ... a learnin g of feeli ng toge th er. Unders1and me and lerrod sm wo n't ha v~ a chance. Think of the
ad vanta ge s of incl udin g po liti cs among th e fi eld of an ... good ar!. To do so. \\'C mu st begin by helping to
deve lop the cri1 ica l powe rs of the indivi du al and provi de a basi s fo r the creative expres sio n of each to the
ben.:fi1 of all . In essence. we have a nati onal SO \erei gn ... what we need is a co mm on wea hh of nn1i ons.
Cap itnli sm. as yo u c:1n see , has prod uce d ali enati on and devoiced. eve n debased both man 's sc ie nl ifi c
und crs1andir.g and hi s aes 1hetic perccp 1i on. Our ne ed is an l Ulh ority ba sed on co mpetence, knowledge and
sk ill. not in1imid a1ion or fo rce. and conrrib ut ing 10 1he grow1 h of mankind . nm his de mi se . We musl
ack now ledge 1ha1 we arc trul y pnrt of 1hc wo rld . Capit:i lism ne ed not tw. was teful and we nee d no embargo
on Cuba . Ignorance is not u viab le solu ti on. Discl osur::: ... th e land be longs to God. The wo rld itse lf has a
co mm on en emy. the a:-ms r.1anufac1urers is a mortal common ene my. America now has a race wi th itse lf in
1hc :u ms rni.:c . We nc d ·11i stic men. nol j ust leade rs. wi1h co mmon se nse . Prese nt mili1 ary po licie s will
co n1inue ro esca late ant. e will foi l to ac hieve in1 ern a1ional agreeme nt s. An un sta ble si1u a1ion. unl ess we
co me to i.:rm s wi1h ourse lves. in and of our nati on. Repub lic implie s 101a li1 y. Rep ubli c implies no split
between publi c and private moral s. Repub li c implie s equalit y. In a Republ ic my voice is just as va lid and
in need of ack now lcdgmem as Mr . Bu sh's. Fift y a1om bo mb s of hig h destru c1ion p01e nt ia l in Co lorado
alone is a gambler 's choice . h lacks imag in atio n and define s stupidi ty. Sure ly po litician s and the Arm y
can ac hieve Ol her choices. Alternalivcs ... lik e dis mantlin g 1hem. The probabi li1 y of nccide n1 s over time.
even I would be 1 on and I don·1 ga mble . Re spo nsive and respo nsib le come fro m 1hc same ro01 word .
Mayor Br 1dsh;1w th anke d Mr . Norman .
7. Unsc hed ul ed Vis it ors
(a) John Coa1 s. 757 9 So uth Monaco Wa y. Englewood s:ai d I'm rep rese ntin g 1he Korea n
Emma nuel Church. which is loca ted at Darimouth and Uni ve rsi 1y on the north wes t corner. It is adjacent to
lh e subd ivi sion th at Co .. nci l had a he arin g on two weeks ago . Tha l heari ng was co ntinued . The Church
w;rn 1s to bui ld an addi 1ion on to the ir building . H-: ex plai ned 1ha1 in ruder to do that, they hove 10 pu rc hase
a piece of ground from ch at subdivi sio n plat. Thrn. afte r the y purchase 1he 6round. th ey ha ve to apol y for
ta x-exempt statu s before we ca n submi t a sit e pkn II) th e Cit y. Th e other sid e of ii is. we've appl ied fo r
temporary !railers IO put ou1 front to prov id e class roo ms fo r 1he kids. and th:u was 1urned dow n by staff.
Ce rt ai nly. he said. 1hc staff has bee n \'C ry und ers tandi ng abou1 1h1 s. bu1 il's like ca rch-22. between the two
ordin ances. On th e one hand. we ca n't submit a site plan and on the other hand. we can 't ge t tem po rary
uai lers u11 ti l we do submit a si le plan . It's all depe nd ent on 1hosc 1hree ste ps . Firs! off. the approval of 1he
Uni vc rsi1 y H1''1le s plat I was j ust hopin g 1hat we co uld do so meth ing 10 ge t the 1emporary trail ers now. he
said .
Mayor Bra dshaw as ked Mr. Coal s if she coul d di rect him to a Com muni 1y De vclopm en1 sta ff member to
1:1l k h). She as ked if 1h :11 was nil right.
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Mr. Coa ts sa id we have 1alked quite a bi1.
~,cnio r Pl anner Langon sai d our current ordina nce all ows tem porary trai le rs or.l y in conjunclio n wit h n
'.J ui:ding per mit. And as Mr . Co:11s sa id. th ey are in so mewha t of n cu lch-22 . r r,e Church is not in
possessio n of lhe land and. 1herefo rc. we ca nnot co nsider 1ha1 po ni on of the lano as pa rt of th eir puree!.
we nt O\'er thi s ex 1ensive ly with Mr . Brotz man and unfo rtuna1el y 1h111's th e way the ordin nncc is written at
th is tim e. Thi s is one of 1he nrc:i s we are co nsid ering in 1he UDC for temporary si tu ati ons such us th is. bu t
current ly it is o n1 y ii "llju nctio n wilh a per mit and si nce 1hey cannot app ly fo r n perm i1 , becau se 1hey
don't have posscsslu1, 1 !he land, we are caug ht.
Ma yo r Brad shaw said 1 .._,unds like we have addresse d it as cl ose ly wi th staff as we can. She asked if there
was an y1hi n1; fr om Co und l. There were no co mments or qu es ti ons.
Ma yo r Br ads haw than ked M.;. Langon and Mr. Coa 1s.
Ma yo r ~rnd sha w sa id bcforc the Boy Sco ut s lea,·e. I wan ! to th ank yo u all for a very impre ss ive fl ag
ccrerr.ony ... yo u did an exce lle nt job .
8. Co mmunlcu lions. Proclumu llons un d Appolntmcntc;
(a) A proc lamation decla ring Novembe r :! I, 2002 as Feed America Da ) .~ JS considc rl!d .
COUNC IL MEMBER WOLOSYN MOVED , AND IT WAS SEC ONDED , TO DE CLAR E
NOVEMBER 21, 2002 AS FEED AMERICA DAY.
Ayes: Co unci l Membe r~ Nabholz. Moore. Ga rrell. Wolosy n.
Yurchick. Grazu li s, Brad shaw
Nays : No uc
Moti on carried.
(b) A proc lama ti on in honor of the Ma ll ey Senio r Recreation Ce nter 's 25 th Anniv ersary wt1.s
co nsi dered.
COUNC IL MEMBER WOLOSYN MOVED , AND IT WA S SEC ONDED , TO APPROVE A
PROCLAMATION IN HO NOR OF THE MALLEY SENIOR RECREAT ION CENTER'S 25nr
AN NIVER SARY.
Aye s: Co unci l Members N:ibholz. M, re . Gmett . Wolosy n.
Yurchick. Grazu li s, Brads haw
Na ys: None
Mo1ion cu rr ied.
COUNC IL MEMBER WOLOSVN MOVED, AND IT WA S SECONDED TO APPROVE AGENDA
ITEM S 8 (c ), (d) nnd (e).
(c) RESOLUT ION NO . 97 . SE RIES OF 2002
A RESOLUTION REAPPOINTING BI LL BELT TO Tl-ic CO DE ENFO RCE ME NT ADV ISORY
COMM ITTEE FOR THE CIT Y OF ENGLEWOO D. COLO RADO .
(d) RESOLUT ION NO. 98. SER IES OF 2002
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A RESOLUTION APPOINTING CHRI S HO AGLAND TO THE CODE ENFORCEM E 'IT ADVISORY
CO :M ITT EE FO HE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD. COLORADO .
(cl RESOLUTION NO . 99, SER IES OF 2002
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING JIM GOODRICH TO THE C'ODE ENFORCEMENT ADV ISORY
COMM ITT EE FOR THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD , CO LORADO .
Vote results:
Aye s: Council Members Nabholz. Moo re. Garrclf, Wolo syn .
Yurchick . Grazuli s. Bradshaw
Nays: None
M oi1011 ca rried .
Mryc r Brad shaw pre sen ted a ccriific:ue and Ci1 y pin to Mr . Goodrich 3i~!i M,. r oag lan d.
(0 A leuer from Sc:m McHu gh ind i.. ling hi s re si gnation from Keep Englewood Beautiful
was considered.
COUNCIL MEM!IER WOLOSYN MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO ACCEPT THE
RESIGNATION OF SEAN McHUGH FROM KEEP ENGLEWOOD BEAUTIFIIL.
Ayes :
Na ys :
Mo1ion c-arricJ.
9. Public Heuring
Coun~i l Members Nabh olz. Moo re. Garren. Wolosy n,
Yurchick . Gra zuli s. Rradshaw
None
No public hraring was sc heduled before Co uncil.
10 . Co nse nt Agenda
COUNCIL MEMBER GARRETT MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO APPROVE
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 10 (a) (I), 10 (b) (I) and 10 (c) (I).
la) Approva l or Ordina11 : ' .. on First Re ading
(i) COUNCIL BILL NO . 61. INTR ODU CED BY COUNC IL MEMBER
GARRETT
A BILL FOR AN ORD INAN CE APPROVING AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL CONTRACT BETWE EN
THE ST ATE OF COLORADO AND THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD . COLORADO. RE LATI NG TO
THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ASS ISTAN CE FUND (LEAF) PROGRAM .
{l.l) Approva l of Ordinances on Se co nd Rendi ng
(i) ORD INAN CE NO . 59 . SERIES OF 2002 (COU NCIL BILL NO . 59 .
INTRODUCED 8 Y COUNCI L MEMBE:t GARRETT)
AN ORDI NANCE APPROVING AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL 'r.RF.EMENT (IGA) FOR MUTUAL
AID BETWEEN FIRE DEPARTMENTS .
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(c) Rcso lu11 ons and Mouo ns
(i) PU RCHASE OF A 4-WHEE L ORIV E UT ILITY VE HI CLE THROUG H Tl-IE
C<J LORADO STATE Bil l PR OCESS FO R A TOTAL COST OF S26,527 .00 .
Vole rcs u:1s:
Ayes: Co un ci l Members Nnbh olz, Moo re. Garrett , Wolosy n.
Yu rchick. Graz ul is . Bra dshaw
Nays : None
Motion ca rr kd.
11. Regulllr Agenda
(:i) Appr...1va l of Ordin ances on First Read ing
(i) A recom menda 1ion fr om 1he Co mmunit y Devel opme nt Dep artm e nt 10 adopt n
bill fo r an ordi n:mcc re visi ng the En glewood Mun ic ipal Code re g:1rd ing the defi ni tion of "household " was
co nside re d.
Pl ann er I Fru clul said Cou ncil Bill No. 62 is a re vision o f the Englewood Municipal Cod e re garding 1he
deli nu ion of "house hold". S1aff reco mm ends Cit y Co unc il se t Dece mbe r 16. 2002 fo r Publi c Hearin g. he
said. to consid,.r revis ion~ pertainin g to th e definiti on of Fa mil y House hold s. In ad diti on. th e sta ff wo uld
like 10 note lh :11 inclu ded wi 1h in yo ur pac ket are sugges ted moti ons base d upo n the num ber of occ upa nts
th:n arc all m\cd 10 live toget her in a si ngl e-fam il y un it.
Mayor Orad sha\\' as kr d if th ere were any ques ti ons for Mr . Fru ch!l .
Co uni:i l !\.1c mber Ura,rn li s sa id that dow n at tht: bo ttom o f the page. where ii snys fam ily household . it
includes "nm more 1han 1wo gro ups or one or more perso ns rela ted.'" Th en it has. or (2) ... a gro up "of not
more than fou r perso ns not related ," That's all incl uded wi th thi s. She asked if thi s is all pnr1 of th e same ?
Mr. Fru chtl s:ud that is correc t.
Mayor Bradshaw said th at is re all y differe nt. I belie ve. she said . that Co un cil requ es ted two or three . not
th :u defi nitio n. Mr . Fruchtl expl ai ned that in th e memo. the legal staff has pre pared diffe re nt al!emativc
m'lti ons and language pursuan1 10 1he ord inan ce re vision.
Mayo r Bradshaw said then we nc:cd 10 set n Publ ic He aring for Dece mber 16th •
Co unci l Member W,>losy n said she wou ld like 10 move Ag enda It em l l(a),
Ci ty Auorn ey Brotzma n sai,t tradit io nall y yo u pa ss 1his on fir !: read ing a nd th en h:.vc a Publ ic Hea ring.
Curre nll y. rig ht nuw. yo u t-.Jve the Pla nni ng a nd Zon in g Co mm issio n's reco mmend ed language, whi ch is
fo r fo ur. Now . he said. if yo u wo uld like to make a moti on ... then yo u ca n amend that tn one of tt>~ oth er
ahern:uives th at's in th e memo .
Cou ncil fl.le mbc r Ga rrett asked. us a poi nt or proced ure. if we are req uired 10 have the Pl a nn ing and Zo nin g
n:com•nendauon in 1he packe t.
Mr. 8 ro 1zman said yes . Th e ordin ance con tai ns 1he direc t language fr om Pl annin g and Zoi.:ng.
Mr. Ga rrell as ke d if arc we lega l!y required to have th at in the Firs t Readi ng. Mr . Bro tzma n said no. you
may ame nd th at. Mayr1 r Bradshaw said we need 10 get it on the 1nb le fi rst. and !he n :i me r d it.
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Mr . Garrett sai d he und erstood 1ha1. but ques tio ned th e efficie ncy of bringing thi s forwa rd and then we have
tu amend i1. as nppNcd 10 bri ngi ng wha1 1hc Council . as n consen sus, want ed . That was my qucs1ion, he
sa id .
Mayo r Brads ha w sa id we wo ul rl amend it before we bring it fo rwa rd . Mr. Garren sa id we wo uldn 't have 10
amend it.
Mr . Bro tzma n s11id part of that is ren ecting a deference to the Plann ing and Zo ning Cc:n mission . Many
time s, th e sta ff \\-Ould like to am end whal the boa rd s and commi ssio ns reco mm end . th at is why we never
do . E1 en wi th thi s one. th ere we re a num be r of altern ative proposa ls, whether it was two. whether it was
thre e, th a1·s why we went wit h th e Plan nin g and Zoning reco mmendati on. The y're th e recommending
body to yuu. You appoi m th em 10 make 1ha1 recommenda tio n and yo u give th em 1h 111 au1h ority .
Ma yo r Brnd sha w said that whenever we di sc uss so mc1hir.g. it neve r ge ts chan ged.
Mr . Bro12.ma n said if it co mes fr om a board or co mm iss ion. yo u will get th e board or commi ssio n
recom menda tion .
Ma yo r Brad shaw said then we need 10 make the chanies ton ight . now. Mr. Brotz man sa id tha1 is co rrec t.
Mayor Brads haw 1h:111ked everyone for bci nr pa tient.
COUNC IL MEMBER GARR ETT MOVED , AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO APPROVE 1.;:;~NDA
ITEM 11 (a) (I)· COUNC IL BILL NO. 62 AND TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARING .-OR
DECE MB ER 16, 2002.
COUNC IL BILL NO . 62. INTRO DUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GARRETT
A BI LL FOR AN ORDINA NI" r. AMEND ING TIT LE 8. CHAPTER 24. SECT ION 2. SPE CIF IC
MODIFICATIONS : TITLE 9. CHAPTER I. SECT ION 4. DEFINITIONS. AND TITLE 16. CHAPTER 8.
SECTION I. DEFINITIONS. OF THE ENG LEWO OD MUNICIPAL CODE 2000. REGARDIN G THE
DEFIN ITI ON OF '"HO U EHOi..D"'.
Co un ci l Member Moore said he fo und this definiti on conf·1s ing. but give n 1hat we are going 10 ta lk abo ut
oth ers anywa y. ma ybe tha1 poi nt is moot.
~ layo r Brad shaw sai d she preferred two unrel:ued peo ple and their chi ldren. pe riod .
COUNC IL MEMBER GARRETT MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO AMEND "OUNC IL
BILL NO. 62 TO CHANGE THE DEFIN ITION or FAMILY/HOUSEHOLD BY l!S IM .. THE
DEF INITIO N, IN THE MEMO, OF FMIILY/HOUSEHOLD, AS TWO UNRELA 1 ED PERSONS
AND TH EIR CHILDREN .
Counci l Member Wolosyn sa id she did have a question abo ut the amendment rega rdin g !he re stric ti on on
children under 1he age or eight ee n ye:irs . Man y peopl e co me home to livl'! when they are olde r than
e ighteen . She poi n1 ed out ihat many people stay at home and go 10 co ll ege fo r fo ur yc:1rs.
Mayor Brad shaw st :ucd th at is fo r two unrelated peop le .
Cou n.:i l Member Wolosy n sa id 1ha1 is ri ght ... and their child1en . St i i . u were in a co-habi1a uon wi th .:a
m:rn :i r1d he had childre n who we re goi ng to co ll ege . and yo u had cn iJdr en . thi s docsn ·1 <1 ll ow th at. Am I
r:g~, or am I wrong?
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City An orne y 8ro1zmn n sa id that is co rre ct
Mayo r l::irad shaw said so we ca n j us1 sm ke the age lim it.
M~. Wolosyn sa id I wo ul d ll lrikc 1he age limit
Ma yor Bradsh 1:.w asked if 1h 111 wns oka y with Cou ncil .
Council Membe r Wolosyr. poi n1cd out 1hn11herc are ma ny ki nd s of si1u a1io ns and ma ybe children are never
able to go out on 1hci r c wn.
M.iyor Brndshaw agrc(d there ore many kind s of 1hing s. absolutely.
Coun ci l Member Moore sai d j u 1 ~o r 1he rccNd, I cunen tl y think twr ,~ 100 restric ti ve and would fav or
th ree.
Counci l Mem ber Grazuli s said she woul d ag ree . At leas t 1h rce, only u<ca use of some of ,he rem s and so me
of !h e mortgage pri cc:s. I 1hink someti.nes just one fami ly is too res tri ctive , I think yo u have 10 all ow more.
she said. and I ran no1 placr myself in a posi1 ion to go down my s1ree1 and see who is legal and who is not.
Mayo r Brad shaw asked fo r a poi nt of d nrificat ion . ls 1his by en fo rceme nt onl y, by co mplaml ?
Mr. Fruchtl answered yes . It is s1ric1l y co mpl ain! dri ve n. if so me one we re 10 call in .
Mayor Bradshaw so id it is co mpla int driven . so if it is two people or three people. it is sti !i co mp l:ii nt
dri ven . 11 do we need an amend ment to th e amcnd mem. to strike '"Under th e Age of Eight een Yea rs"?
Council Mem be r Ga rrett said he would consent 10 the wi thdra wal of the "U nd er th e Age of Ei ght een
Yc.::irs". The secn nd ag re ed .
Ma yo r Br:.idshaw said now we are loo km g. a1 voting on 1wo unrela ted people and the ir children as defined
in the memo 1ha1 Mr . Fru ch1\ offered .
Council Membe r ~foore said he had one more que stio n just to cl arify . Thi s just ge ts us to th e Publi c
Heari ng :is th e ke y pu rpose of thi s'! Mayo r Brads haw sa id 1h:11 is rig ht.
Vo le results on the morion to amend:
Ayes : Council Membe rs Nab holz, Moore. Garre tt. Wolosy n.
Yu rc hi ck. Grazul is , Bradshaw
Na ys: No ne
Mo1ion cnrried .
Vol e resul ts on moli on to a ppro,•e Counci l Bill No. 62 lW ame nded and to set the Public Hearing for
December 16. 2002:
Aye s: Council Mem bers Nab holz. Moore. Garret!, Wol osyn.
Yurchic k. Brad sha w
Nn ys : Coun ci l Mem be r Graz uli s
Moti on can ie d.
(ii) Ass istant Cit y Manager Flaherty prese nt ed a reco mm end ati on fr om th e Cit y Mana ger's
Offi ce to adop t a bill for an ordi nance :ipprovi ng nn Op1i on to Purchase th e Skerri n House by the Colorado
Pre se rva tion. Inc. Th e pu rcha se price is $60.000.00. he sa id . and th e term of the Purchase Opti on is
thro ugh April I, 2003 . The con1rac t lan gua ge provi des fo r li abili1 y co vcrnge durin g th at pe riod by th e
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Op1 io ncc and also incl ude s discl os ure of environmen tal h.izards by 1hc Cit y to the Op1 ionec. There are two
ch anges that we disc overed on Fr iday, he said. fo ll ow in g th e puckc ls bei ng sent out . This is a 1wo reading
ordinance. so if Counci l agree s .i..id the Lit y Auomcy can provide th e cha nges . we will procee d wilh those .
The fi rst chant c rel ate s 10 i1cm 11 , Failu re to Exe rci se. If th is optio n is not exercised, th e own er shall not
retai n, but shall rc fond 10 the O pti onee all th e consid cr:u ion gi ven fo r it. That is the SS00 .00 check 1h01 we
rec eived fr om CPI. We have ag reed th at we wo uld do th is , and we have raised the purchase price that we
set ini ti all y fro m 558 ,000 .00 to $60,000 .00 . Th e seco nd cha nge is in it em 12, Ris k of Loss. The last
se nt ence in 1he p:trcnlh cses. (Optionce shall prov id e: proo f of insurance 10 the City in 1he amou nt of
S25.000 .00 } should be s1rick en. If you recall . we no longe r ca n carr y propert y damage in sura nce on 1he
build ing beca use of lh e da ma ges 1ha t th e pro perty suffered and the fac t rh ar we received a 101al senl emcnl
fr om th e insura nce t.:ompa ny. Because we cannot obt:ii n insurance, he said, we arc not goin g to as k th e
Opri oncc 10 obiai n insurance eith er.
Mayor Bra d'i haw said. other th an th ose changes, it is as it was pre sented in yo ur packet on Thursday.
CO UNCIL MEMB ER WOLOSYN MOVED , AND IT WAS SECONDED , TO APPROVE AGENDA
ITEM 11 (a ) (ii)· COUNCIL BILL NO . 6~.
COUN CIL B)L L NO . 6-l . INTRODUCE D BY COU NCIL ME MB ER WOLO SYN
A BI LL FOR AN ORDI NAN CE APPROV ING AN OPTI ON TO PURCHASE THE SKERRilT HOUSE .
Mayo r Brad . J W aske d if there we re any qu es tions.
Coun ci l Mem ber Ga rrett sai d he had a que stion. We arc supposed 10 refun d the $500.0v , is th :n correct. if
th ey don·1 cxer.-:i~e the option?
Ass ista:-it Cit y Manager Fl :i herty sa id yes. we WC'U id refund the $500 .00 .
Mayo:-Brad~haw sai d I don't lik e th ar.
Mr. Garrell said pa n of the reason for asking fo r 1he money , is th at th ey had so me commitm ent to the
project and helped defray so me of 1he cost 10 the Cit /. Mr . Fla hert y sai d that is correct. Mr. Ga rrell noted
rh at we had no di sc ussi on abo ut re fundi ng that money :11 :?ii.
Mayor Brad shaw po inted out tha t we also lowered the: amount we requested.
Mr . Garrett sai d we requested S2.000 .00 . I'm nol sure when th ere wa s a big change ·n po li cy.
Mr . Flaherty s:t id I unders1a nd. Th is was one of the te rms of agrcc ~nent 1ha1 CP I had req ucs1ed. Th ey
can not go fo rward. if 1hcy arc not refunded the money in the cvcr,1 that they do n ·1 exerci se che opt ion.
They made th at very cl e:;r to me ... 1ha 1 th ey will nm go fo rward unl ess they a.re 3ssurcd a refund of the
S500 .00.
Mr. G::-rctt ~:,i d. fr om my pc rspcc1 1vc . it's ba it and swit ch. because we we re very cl ear at tl1 c Cou ncil
mee tin g ·.hat we did nCJ t w:...u the ci tizen s to incur additi onal costs fo r th at Th at wa s the reaso n we ask"cd
fo r S2 ,000.00 and we co mprorrn scd on 5500.00 in good fa ith and he said okay . I will write th e check
to ni ght.
Mr . Flahert y sai d II is my undc rs1an ding that ( ..,, will no t agree to that change . but I can 't spc.i k for th em.
Mayor Brad shaw sa id :he ge ntl eman fr om CPI is here .
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Mr . Flaherty said Mark Rodman is here ond ff he wo uld like 10 address lhnl 1onigh1 , he is certainly welco me
to do th:it.
Mr . Rodman !:.aid our co nce rn is 110 1 getting the S500 .00 back ir v:e didn 't exercise 1he option al 1he end of
the term of thi s option . Our co nce rn was giving yo u the $500 .00 and yo u not accepting the option in the
fi rs t pl:ice . So. if yo u approve 1his opli on. he sa id . we "re very comfonnb!c with yo u keep ing the S500 .00 .
My concern was giving yo u the SS00.00 and 1hen gcuing to 1hc place tonight where you ~.tlJ no. we do 001
wuni 10 go forward wi1h thi s option . So we ca n change that in the langua ge. it's n ta problem . On ce the
op ti on is done. he sai d. we will be glad to give the $500.00. that was ne ve r in questi on .
Mr . Garren stated 1hi s language is inapproprinle . h sho uld be "if1his o p1ion is not execu ted" by 1he
part y ... not exerci sed .
Mr. Flahcny said num ber 11 should stay as wrincn 1hen, with no change .
Mayo r Bradsha w s:-iid the o wner shall retain all the considcrn1ian given fo r it. So. yes, we leave it as
wriu cn.
~.11yor Bradshaw said now we o nl y have one change 10 lhe agreement and 1hat change is in paragraph 12
w ,ere we strike the sentence in paren the ses. Mr . Flah eny said that is correc1 .
Ma ye r Brad shaw asked if there were any more quc s1io ns. There were none .
Vt ,te results:
Aye s:
Motio n c.i rried.
Co uncil Members Nabholz. Moore. Garren. Wolosyn.
Yurchick . Graz uli s. Brad shaw
No ne
Ma yor Brad shaw 1hankcd Ass is ta nt Ci 1y Manager Flahcny.
{b) Approva l of Ordinances o n Second Readin g
(i) Council 81II No . 54 . ap pro ving the Uni versit y Homes Plann ed Uni t
De ve lopment was considered.
Mayor Bradshaw said Council is co nfused. bcc:1usc we thought we made a recommendati o n. I guess we
need 10 be more forceful in our reco mmc:nd:u io ns . It has 10 do with the bui ldi ng hei ght and what we
received back was 1ha1 the following points were co nsidered. I gue ss I thought it wou ld say a maxi mum
heigh! and I was confused . She nDlcd that Co uncil Member Garrett also raised this question.
Seni or Pl anner Lang on said we believe th:11 we didn't re:11ly receive a direcu un from Co uncil as to one way
or the other. other than yo ur discu ssion wit hin the meeting. that yo u were not pleased with 1hat 32 foot
height.
Mayor Br.idshaw said if yo u do n·, rec eive directions from us ... jus1 ask for it and we ca n be much more
specific . The is sue is a.bou1 the height. I think 32 feet is way too high . I shared with yo u guy s that I live
by a devel o pment 1ha1 1hey didn 't co un l lhe att ic space . They onl y counted to the gutters of 1he houses
behind m..: and the y went up another 8 feet above the gutters. So . I d 1ft want 10 sec our residents or
Denver rcsidcnlS negativel y impac1cd by th at. I believe Council Member Wol osyn had a compromise. she
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COUNCIL MEMBER WOLO SYN MO VE D, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO APP ROVE AG END A
IT EM 11 (b) (I) • COUNC IL BILL NO . 5~.
COUNC IL BI LL NO . 54 , INTRODUCED BY COUNC IL MEM BER WOLOSYN
A BIL L FO R AN ORD INANCE APPROV ING TH E UN IVERS ITY HflMES PL ANNE D UN IT
DEVELO PMENT (PUD) AT 305~ OUTH UN IVERS ITY BOULE'i A.lD IN THE CITY OF
ENG LEWOOD. CO LORADO .
Counci l Me mbe r Wolosyn sai d because De nver's is 30 fee l and ours is 25 feet, I think the 30 foot heig h! is
reaso nab le . Howeve r. onl y if tli ~t is attac hed 10 a slope. We don·, wa nt a fl o1 roof. A slope of 8 or 12 fee l.
I do n'1 lmow ... bur a slope tha t wo uld minimi ze lhc effe ct of sunli ght on those build ings . And also leave
oul the oppor1uni1y to do so mcthing ... like build a mi ni apa rt ment bui lding th ere. I don't kn ow what
anybody el se thi nks . she said.
Counc il Member Moo re said I am also co ncerned about the 32 feet. At u min imum . I "'o uld li ke 10 see a
slope require ment ad ded. I also wo uld li ke to see that 32 fee l li mit lowered to 30 fee1. which is probab ly
fi ne with me. Firs1 of all . he said. I was a lin le bo 1hered ste pping :iway from 25 feet. given 1hat was our
srn ndard . However. kn owi ng 1ha1 space :ind i1s long his 1ory ofunderdeve lop men1 or ;.md eve lor,ment, I'm
okay giving them a lin le more l:u itu de . bul I'd like 10 sec so met hin g like 30 feet wi1h a defined minimum
slope . if we can't app roach wh:u a story is.
Mayor Brad shaw said so 1hc co mpromise would be ex1e nding 1he height limi l five feet above our surnd ard,
wi th a slope. and th at wo ul d be the ape x. Is tha 1 rig ht ?
Mr. Mou re said from the re, whether i1s 3 anrl 12. or I :i nd 11.1 wou ld 1hink we cou:d dcli nc the req uired
slope .
Ma yo r Bra dshaw sai d you are say ing th::i 1 lhc lo ng axis goes north and so u1h on the property.
Ms . La ngo n said 1ha1 wo ul d hr the gene ral way. becau se 1he long side of th e lot run s east/we st
The ""□mmen t was made th a1 1c wo uld need 10 define a slope.
Counci l Me mbe r Wolosy n as ed if 8 or 12 fee t would l>e 100 steep .
Direc 1or Simpso n said I th ink you co ul d just specify t.,. .. ·.he arc hit ec tu re mus l includ e a pitched roof. wi1 h
the max imum heig ht bei ng 30 feet . Th at would add1.:ss Co un ci l's co nce rn s. I don't thin k. he sai d. 1hat you
would wa nt 10 dic ta1e the nu mber of sto ries or specifi c roo f pi1ch .
Ms. La ngon advised 1ha1 typi cal roo f pitc hes in Englewood are eit her 6/12 or 7/1 2.
Mayor Bradsh aw sa id so 6/12 wi th a 30 foo t height maxi mum.
Council Mcmbr· Yurch ic k sai d he agreed wi1 h Mr. Simp so n on no1 se llin g the pi1c h. beca use if 1hey wa nt
10 lower 1h1:ir seco nd fl oo r wal l. and have a 1eepcr pi1ch 10 1hci r roar. as long as 1hey s1ay wi1h in the 30
feel. we huvc accom plished wha 1 we wa nl.
Mayor Brad sha w sai d bu t the minim um wou ld be 6/12.
Mr. Moore said I j ust wan1 to n1ake sure it docs n·t ge t less and Oa nened out. Ir it gets steeper. that would
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Ms. \Volosy n said I thin k th is is a good lime 10 be sayi ng !h at we do wa nt deve lopment bu1 we wa nt ii
w11 h111 l!0 mc cons1rn1 n1 s of the PUD . I 1h ink 1ha1's im po r1 an 1. she said .
Mr . Ran dy Fm:scn. w11h Papp as Archu cctu rc. sai d the main reaso n we want ed the heigh1 is so we co uld do
th e slope . J 'm not sure 1hal I agree th at 6 or 7 10 12 is real ly norm. A l01 or ti mes a 4/ I 2 pitch in th is area is
abo u1 normal
M:1yor Br:1dshaw s:ud that wou ld be fo r a fl a1 roo f. Ou r conce rn is. we don't wa nt a fl at roo f th ere.
Mr. Fnc ll cn said I \\Ould ass um e 1f you are goi ng 10 do a fl :.u roo f. ii ought 10 go back to :i 25 -foo t heig ht
bu1 our m :1111 obJc c11 ve is to be ab le 10 do a pitched roo f on ;1 two-s tory house.
Mayor Bra dshaw said yo u ca n do th:u in 30 feel'?
Mr. Fri esen rc phc d yes. r m nm sure if we c.:a n do 11 ,~•i1h a 6 nr 7 slope . lha t wo ul d be pu shin g it a liul e bit .
but 4 10 12 ... certa inl y.
Di rccmr Simp so n said prov idi ng a range of pit ch would also give you a var iety of archite cture. eliminat e
1hc fl at roo f o pt ion and . again . you still kee p yo ur contro l.
Mayor Brads haw said so we can .:a me nd this to say a mi nimum .a to 12 pitc h wi1h a 30 foo t ma ximum
hc igh 1.
Senior Planner Lan go n said a maxi mum heigh1 of 30 fe et ::.nd .i min imum -'/12 pit ch.
C OUN C Ii. ME~III ER GA RR ETT "1OVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO AMEND COUNCIL
BILL NO. 54 TO REQUIRE TI-IE . ·•~IUM HE IGHT BE 30 FEET, W ITH A MINIMUM
PITCH TO T HE ROOF OF 4 TO 12 .
Ayes : C-.>unci l Member s Na bholz. Moore. Garrell . Wolos yn.
Yurchick . Grazuli s. Brad shaw
Na ys : None
Moti on c:t rncd .
Vore rcs ulls on morio n to appro,·c Council Bill No . s.a as umcn dcd :
Ayes: Co unci l Membe rs Nabholz. Moo re. Ga rrell. Wolosy n.
Yurchic k. Grazu lis. Bra dsha w
Na ys : None
Mouon ca rri r.:d .
Mayor Bra dshaw thanked Council.
(c) Rcso luu om. and Motions
Th ere we re nr, add i1iona l re solu 1ions or mmi ons sub min cd fo r t1 pproval. (See Age nd a Item 10 -Co nsent
Agenda .)
12. General Discussion
(a) Mayor's Choice
(i) Mayo r Brad shaw said I don·1 know if everyo ne recei ved an invitatio n. but !he
ve ry firs t Stn ngs An ac hed rccll ll. fca 1uring violin s1udc nt l> frC'm Clay1on and Madd oit Ele me nt ary sc hoo ls,
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will be he ld on November 22 nd at 7:00 p.m. nl Cla ylon Elemen1ary Schoo l. 4600 So uth Fox. The inviuuion
is darling. she sa id. but I will be unable 10 att e nd as I have t1 dinner 1his Frid ay .
(ii ) Mayo r Brad shaw advised tha11hi s Wednesday a1 11 :00 a.m . we will have the
ground breaking for 1hc Malle y Seni or Recreati on Ce nt er and the Englewood Re crea 1ion Ccn1c r. I believe
yo u nil received invitatio ns in yo ur mail box. she said .
(iii ) Mayor Bradshaw said CML iss ues upda1es and I have asked to be added !o d,d r
e-mail li s1. She exp lained th at the Homeland Security Acl is in fr ont of the Scn,:lle , but the problem wi lh
1he Homel a nd Secur ity Act is th at they aren·t fund ing first respo nde rs . ll's ri. Federa l mandat e without
funding . To qu ote NLC Presid ent Karen Anderson . she s:t id ''Co ngrr:ss should have approved the
President 's S3.5 billi on First Responder init ia1i vcs to gc1 re so urces to Ameri ca 's ci1ies and towns .
Co ngre ss is leavin g town wit h the chcckbcok in hand wh ile ci ties are still left holding the ba g:·
M.iyo r Brad shaw sa id I would like your pcrmis!iion to write letters to Mr . Allard and Mr . Campbel l. ore-
mail th em or wha1cvcr . as soo n as possible .
Co uncil ind ic:ucd thal was oka y.
(iv) Mayo r Brad shaw sa id o.:COG has an Urba n Growth Bou .... area . Are yo u
workin g on that ?
Council Member Wo losy n answered that she is on 1hat commince. Whal was it. jusl abo ut 1he mee1ing
1omo rrow?
• Ma yor Brad sha w sai d it is about Metro Visi on 20/3 0. so lei me give 1hat IO yo u in case yo u didn't gc 1 it .
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(v) ~1:tyo r Brad sha w said we al so rece ived n lener from Sheridan Celebra te s on
''The Li nlc Cit y th at Did " on Sep1embcr 28th and they were asking for more mone y fro m us. 1 think that we
can support th em by auendin g. if we want.
(vi) Mayor Brad sha w ad vised lh at En glewood Shine s will be held on Saturday,
Dece mbe r 7U1 and I ha ve asked Mike Yurchick. and hi s 1hrce and a hal f year old daughter Sarah . 10 light the
Chri stmas tree .
Ma yo r Bradshaw as ked ever yo ne 10 keep 1hat date open . The Englewood High C,chool Band will be the re.
she sa id. and Sanla will arrive by lighl rai l. There will also be ho lida y crafl n:atmg in 1he Library an d
Charle s Dic ke ns Caro lers.
(v ii ) Ma yor Brads haw sa id we also ha ve a Tri -C ities meeting thi s Frida y at 7:3 0 a.m.
here in 1he Co mmunit y Roo m. You rece ived the ag enda in yo ur packet . she said . so let Sue Brad shaw
know how many or yo u arc :mend in g. I will be 1herc. she said .
(b) Co unci l Members· Choice
(i) Co uncil Member Moore sa id in case there is an y confusion. I sho uld h:i ve said
before. th at I did not abs ta in on 1h tu la st vo te eve n though I mi ssed the Puo lic He:i.ring . I did go th ro ugh
the no1cs J nd felt co mfo rtable wi th it I just wa n1cd 10 s1a1c lh:i.t fo r th e record. he said .
(ii ) Council Member Garren :
I. He sai d. respeclive 10 the 1railer isc:ne the gc n1lcman brought up . I belie ve trailers arc for
constructio n si tes. because there is an expc ctJti c n that !hey will be removed soori . One of my concerns
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:ibou t puni ng a lr :i il cr in place. wi th out 1he appropri111c build ing !)Crrnits in place. 1s lha t it ca n become :i
pc rmanem so lut ion. whic h is so me1h mg 1h.1 1 I thin k we have not enco uraged .
2. He said wt. buih our so und wa ll and I was Jml w:rntmg an upda te. We pul in the po li cy of how we
want 10 do the se th ings, but doc s it ll•all y wo rk'! Are 1hc ci tizens h:i ppy th at the so und wall is there?
Mayor Bradshuw said .it Na tional Nigh t Ou t 1hey bange d 11 w11h II bo ul e of champ:ig nc and ii held up.
Cou ncil ~!embe r Wolosy n sa id they were all telling U!i th :u night 1h:u th ey we re ve ry happy wi th it
Mayor 13 r:ids haw no ted tha1 it made ;1 difference when we were there thal ni ght.
Mr . Garrell said tha!' s grc:11. I wa s juM curio us abou t it. as I hadn ·1 he:1 rd back .
3. Ht: said I was honored 10 rece ive, on be half of the citii.::n s of Englewood. another award fo r th e
same projt:ct. In North Ca ro li na we wo n the EPA Regi on 8 Awa rd . Mr. Simpso n. Mr. Sear~ and Mr .
Kahm wen: there and I was quite proud of our Cit y. he said .
Councii Membe r Garr~u said th ere we re twel ve proj ec1s th at we re honore d ac ross m~ 11ati on. and we were
one of them . We were in good compa ny. There we re some reall y remarkable proj ec1s. so I was quite
prou d of what we have do ne here and I th ink i!'s nice th at we were so honored.
Mayor Brad shaw thanked Mr . Ga rrett fo r att endin g.
(i ii ) Co unci l Member Wo losyn :
I. She sa id tom rro,, afl crnoo n Englewood Sc hoo ls has ca ll ed a press co nfere nce to ki ck off th e
Teen age tJ ri nki ng Task Force . Ci ty Ma nage r Sear and 1 have bee n as ked 10 say j ust a few wo rd s and be
pre sent. r,.fostl y, she said. it is abo ut the idea of co ll abora ti on be twee n the Cit y a nd th e Schoo ls. It is at
I :30 p.m. in the Co mmons a1 th e Englewood Hig h Sc hoo l.
2. She advised tha1 on th e 22 nd at 7:30 p.m. there is a co nccr1 here al Ci tyCc nte r. .lhc Yo un g
Sin fom:1 Co nce r1 .
Mayor Br:id shaw no1cd th at we have two co mpe ting concert ,;: m 1he 22 nd •
(iv ) Co unci l Membe r Yurchic k sai d 1he on ly thin g he had wa s infor ma1io nal. The
Malle y Cc111er Tru st Fund met a nd they hav e dec ided 10 commit $169.000 .00 to im prove me nt s to go along
wi t}; th e renova tio n. They arc bu yi ng fu rn iture .ind kin d of sp ruci ng up 1he old to match the ne w. he said .
?-.fayor BraJsh:1w said th at is a good idea .. th at's what it was se t up fo r.
(v) Counc il Membe r Graz uli s sa id Engle wood Hi gh Sc hoo l did pl ay anoth er pla yoff
g:1me thi s las t Sa 1urday. but un fo rtun ately th ey did lose to Palisade . Howeve r, I th ink it is time 10 now
ho nor Coac h Penn and the tea m fo r having an 11 and O seaso n.
Mayor Br ads haw said I thin k we mi ght wa nt to do lh at when we have the meetin g with th e Schoo l Board in
Ja nuary. It is rea ll y hard. if yo u 10s 1 so methin g th.i t yo u wo rk ed all se aso n fo r. yo u ce na inl y don't wa nt to
show up . We .is kcd th em to do that las t yc:ir, to show up al a Co unci l mec 1in g. and th ey politel y came . but
I re.i ll y thin k it woul d me an r.,orc if it came from ,~c Sc hoo l Board an d th e Ci ty Co uncil at 1hr me lime.
I do n't know wha1 your feel ings arc. bu1 1 do thin k we need to honor them . By tha t tim e. we \l II know if
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Mayor Bra dshaw no1ed th:u when I was on Co uncil before. we used to honor kid s in speec h. we used to
honor all kind s of kid s all the time and someh ow we got away from th at I thin k i1's sa d be ca use it kind of
shows a di s~o nnc:c1 ,~ it h thi: sc hoo ls and the Ci 1y. but I vo'is h we co uld go back 10 so me of that.
Coun ci l Member Gra zuli s said she ng reed 1oia l\y . There are a 101 of awa rd s and a lot of thing s going on out
there .
Mayor Brad sha w s:lid Iii t yea r o ur Englewood Speech Team went to the ati onal f oren sic Final s and that
is the fir st time in 28 years . We didn't get 1he information until I received th e ncws leller and . by then,
sc hoo l wa s out. So. for th o.:.e of you on 1he Sch oo l/Ci ty Co mmittee. if you could broach 1ha1 subjec t wi th
the sc hoo l on th at . bee .ruse I think ii is import :mt to recognize kids doing goc :i thin gs . Sh e poin ted out that
usually their only contact wi th rhe Ci ty is through th e Court, and that is not usually positive .
13. C11,, Munu ~cr's Report
(a) Ci ty Ma na ger Sears said he just wanted 10 say 1ha1 Mr . Garrell understated . a li nle bit . 1he
award . It re:1ll y is an incredible :iwa rd. There were 40CX) peop le at th e co nferen ce and it is within 1he fir st
fi ve years of Brownfi clds coming to th!! fo re. Mr. Garren was on stage with the EPA Repre senlativ :.: from
Regi on 8. he said. and we did gc:t our pictures taken . Th ere were ten awards nationa ll y. he said. These
included a stadium rem odel in Loui sv ille and a major aquari um rcco ns1ruct!on in Charlesto n, so nationally
we were absolute ly in great stead . I was :i t th e co nference fo r planning for the ICMA Confe rence . whic h
wa s at the same time in Charl oll c, and thl!y said how incredib le it was for an ybody 10 be awarded thi s type
of award and noted Engl ewood in pa rticular . Springfield, Mi sso uri also received one. he sai d. The top of
lhc award is made o u1 of a spe cial 1ypc of glass th at co mt:s from thot are 3 and you reall y should take a loo k
at it. It is preuy inl·rcdiblc and it is even ni cer wi th 1hc ligh t on. Mr . Sears s1a1ed thi s is a tremendo us
honor for Eng le wood. fo r Co uncil. for srnff and Bob Simpso n and Rick Kahm m p ular .
Mayo r Brad shaw said the wh ole co ncep t of Phoenix rising from th ! ashes .. it is S<. sy mbo lic .
1-t . Cit f Attorney's Report
Ci1 y Attorne y BrOLzman did 1101 ha\'C any matt ers to bring bl!fore C ,;1i:1d l.
15. Adjournment
MAYOR BRADSIIA W MOVED TO ADJOURN. The meeting adj ourned at :47 p.m.
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