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ENGLEWOOD CITY COUNCIL
ENGLEWOOD, ARAPAHOE COUNTY, COWRADO
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June US, 2000
I. Call lo Order
The special meeting of the Englewood City Council was called to onler by Mayor Bums at 7:35 p.m.
2. lnvocad"n
The invocation was given by Council Member Nauholz.
3. Pledct of A......,_
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Mayor Burns.
4. RoDCaU
Present :
Absent:
Council Members Nabholz. Garren. Bradshn·. Wolosyn. Yurchick.
Burns
Cou ncil Member Oruulis
A quorum was present.
Also present: City Manager Sean
City Attorney Brotzman
City Clerk Ellis
Director Olson. Safety Services
Planner Langon . Community Development
Director Si;npson, Communily Development
Engineering Manager/Capil.ll Projects Manager Kahm, Public Works
Mayor Bums said he would like 10 welcome everyone to the first me-.:ting of the City Council in thest
chambers . He said he would lik., to thank City Manager Gary S<:an . members of City Council , department
hc:1ds . and all the people who worked so hard to complete the move . I know there is a linle unpacking to
he done ycl. he said, but we ha ve had scmc very good responses from our City staff and the public . Mayor
Bums commented that he was hopeful that everyone could hear with this sound system . He noted there
will be a lot of adjusting as we usc this room, but it is a grea.1 pleasure and a thrill lo be here after many
years of cffon . On behalf of Council . he thanked Assistant City Manager Mike Flaherty , who wu scrt of
tJt-:: go.ru of the move. as we ca.II him . and all the department he3ds that worked so hard on this move. He
opi 1~ it went very well and it was ahead o~ time by the time it was complc1cd . He was hopeful we will
have man y. many years of good usc out of this building .
5. Minutes
(a) COUNCIL MEMBER YURCHICK MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO
APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL !dEETING OF JUNE 5, 2000.
Ayes : Council Members Bradsha w. Wolosyn. Yurchick, Burns
Nays : None
Abstain: Council Members N abholz. Garrett
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Motion carri ed.
S. Schedulecl. Vlslton
There were no :.i:licduled visitors.
7. Non• sch,duled Visitors
Council Member Grazulis
(a) Di :ector Chris Olson said he just wan ted to talL: about the July 4th fireworks
enforcements. As you have probabl y read in the paper, seen on TV :i.nd through a variety of sources, he
said, we will once again participate in the · ;;ry active enforcement of fireworks violations in the City this
4th of July . Actually, we have started it a,:cady and will be more heavily into it this Friday as we figure the
who le weekend is probably going to be tilled with this . But , Di.rector Olson sai d, we arc a very active
member t )f the Metro Fireworks Education Coalition Commiucc. and our goal is to m.tkc sure lhat people
tn thi s metropolitan area, and the State understand that in most are:i.s fireworks arc illegal in the Stale of
Colorado. Even though you c:m buy fireworks in the S1a1e of Colorado. use. for the most part. is
prohibited. He suucd that in Englewood . everything is prohibited, even sparklers. So if you have frie ,ids or
neighbors that are using these. ple:isc inform them that we will be out enforcing that and issuing citations,
he advised . We will be having a special team. once again, of a firefighter and a police officer 9ut in a
specia l unit. and they will be going our directl y to those locations . He pointed out rhat the fire divis ion. as
well. will be going out and will be confiscating and asking for citations to be issued. So those will be
presented generally through municipal coun, he said. depending on the nature of the charge , If it is some
sort of an arson charge, it could go to county or district coun as well . So we will be on ou1 there . and I •
guess I'm preparing you for the fact that yo u may be getting some co mplaints. he sai d. As you know, a lot
of people spend a lot of mone y on these fireworks. He st.au:d that we will be confiscating and issuing
citations. so the re probably will be unhapp y folks out 1herc . The whole point is that it is an education-type
process. and we hope that ove r the years it will encourage citizens ti: .. UiK:11: 10 th e laws , as well as,
hopefull y. put a bug in the car of the state legislature to get some active v,:ork done on making sure that
sa les and ur.c arc uken care of on a statewide basi ... He thanked Council.
(b) Don Leada ►rand, 3281 Soulh Galapago Street. said that 1irst of all he wanted to thank
two of the Council members. ~le stated that he called Ms. Bradshaw and Ms . Nabholz on Saturday
afternoon . The wind had come up Saturday afternoon, about a 30 to 40 mile an hour wi nd . The entire area
moved ove r into my arJa. he sai d, and the dust and dirt was such that we couldn't si t outside for about three
hour s. He advised that they did stan the water truck this morning. Mr . l.cadabrand asked if there was
anyone he could con1.1c t on the weekend ~.., get so mething done about that. He ackn owledged thill the
Council members tried their best to get something done , bul they couldn 't get ahold of an)·body until
Monday. Nothing could be done until thi s morning, he said. which was a little bit la1c . He asked again if
there was anyone he could contact.
City Ma!'lll~t.:r Scars advised that Rick Kahm , our projccl manager. was present. and he co uld provide lhe
name of someone with Sa1Jnders Construction Company . Saunders 1s respo nsib le for the entire si te. al ong
wtth Trammell Crow an~ the ir co nuactors, he said , and they would give Mr . Leadabrand a call later
tomorrow with the :,ame of a contractor . He asked Mr . Kahm if 1herc was a contac t person on weekend
du1y .
Ca pit:il ProJects ~tanager Kahm said he did no l have 1t.a1 informati on a1 the m::-rn•;nt . However. he
advi sed, if the y were to ca ll Safet y Se rvices. 1he emergency call number for the cont ractor fo r Sau nders is
over there .
Mayor Bums sug~csted Mr. Lcadabrand be given the name of someo ne to .7a ll .
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Mr . Kahm s~ted there is a way of con11<:1in1 lhose fol ks on lhe weel<en,J .
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Council Member Bradshaw asked if lhey call Safely Servi ces, whal number do lhey call. How do lhey gel
ahold of Safely Services on lhe weekend? Mr. Kahm advi;"'1 lhey should call 303 -761-7490 and !hen ask
for Saunden Construction .
Mr. Lc11dab:-itnd said thank you and commented that he kno ws that the people working there do oot live in
this area , so they don't know what is goir ,g l n. I realize this is difficult , he said . He noted that he attended
the ne ighborhood meeting of June 15th at Bishop School . and there w1s quite a discussion regarding tho
wall . He asked if there was any outcome of that meeting . Like what, Council Member Bradshaw .isked .
Mr. Lead,brand said a change in lhe wall.. .bringina 1he wall closer on Galapago Siree1, !here isstill 11bou1
a 60-fool span and there wu a discussion on the height of the waH .
Mayor Bums advised that Council just hnd a discussion of tha t in the Study Ses sion before this meeti ng. It
came up and we dlSCus!ed it some more. he said. and CoW1Cil's consensus seemed lO be lo take a gradual
appro ac h to thaL to 5l&n increasing lhc wall on the west side .
Council Member Bradshaw stated that the west side would be increased two feet.
Ma yor Bums noted that in a couple of weeks we'll be testing this because the butCS will be running, and
looking at the gates we're talking abaut as well , to try to work wi th the neighborhood to have the best dfect
we can from increasing the height of the wall and also the gates . The idea seems to be not to put everything
in 1u once . because we arc not sure we will need all of that, but to see how it works by incrcuing the wall
on the west side , and moving toward the cast , as it seems necessary , in order to get the best result. But the
whole idea is to work with the neighbors in order to have the best result we can , he said, to be capable and
reildy to do what we need to do to have the best result.
Mr . Lcadabrand said that he didn 't know ifhc had any time left on his five minutes. but there is a
gentleman that came in that was not able to signup to spcat·. and he was wondering if it would be all right if
he shared some of my time .
Ma yor Burm sa id sure and he invited the gentleman to co me on up .
(c ) Bill Mulnix said lhat he owns lhe propeny at 3280 Soulh Galapago S1ree1,"1CI he jus1 had
a couple statemen ts. He said he would again like to request that the wall on Floyd Avenue be cl~cd . He
advised that. at the ne ighborhood meeting at Bishop Elementary Sch oo l that they attended , the fire chief
sa id he had no problems with putting in wooden gates at all of the openings . as long as they were bolted.
Mr. Mulnix slaled lhe opening al Galapago is 80 fee~ and he would like 10 requcsl lhal 1h11 be brough1
down to 35 feet . and at the 35 foot opening, they put ir. wooden gates that would be! stained or painted to
blend in with the bnck. An 80 foot open ing on a sou1td barrier wall just docs not seem logic:iJ to try to hold
pollution and dust and noi se out of the neighborhoods, he said . And aga in, I wo uld just li ke to sec if they
co uld ... instcad of taking a wait and sec attitude about how the 400 buses arc going to affect our comcr ... if
we co uld get the sate s taken care of as soon as possible .
Ma yo r Bums asked if the 80 fool wall was di sc ussed at the meeting, the 80 foot gap. He asked what the
ronscnsus was . Ms. Nabholz Sil.id she h.id to lea ve.
Co um.11 Member Yurchick ad\'1scd that the y di sc ussed it. 1t w.u brought up anLI ~he concern was having a
wide -:nough openin g to get the emergenc y equipment through . He said he didn 't re member the oulCOme .
Counc il Member Bradsha w commented th at in the Study Sess io n the y said they would access thil.t
ne ighborhood via Eutrnan. She asked if that wns correct.
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Mr. Mulnix said it is his understanding that they are widening Floyd on the north side, on the other side of
the bus route; they a.re widening that whole street there also. to make access for the fire trucks .
Council Member Bradshaw said they have decided they can access 1h11 neighborhood on Eastman without
adding ilny widening to Aoyd. Mr. Mulnix said. then 1hey arc not going to widen Floyd anymore? Mayor
Bums stated that Council wns told a few minutes ago that r(,.;:y determined they could go down E:lStman
without going down Floyd .
Mr . Mulnix said that is what he thought.
Cc•1~il Member Bradshaw asked if his concern is that the entrance to Gal11pi1gO is 80 feet, and he would
li!.-r: 10 make that 35 feet with a gate. Mr. Mulnix said he thought 35 feet would be fine, because that would
be ;urficic nt for the fire trucks .
Counci l Member Bradshaw asked if he had talked to other neighbors on his block . Mr . Mulnix noted that
Don Lc.:Ldabrand lives right across the street Ms . Bndshaw explained that our concern is that there were
people who were in early on in lhc process when we started talking about this, about how were going to
rrcat Floyd , and the fact that we were going to put a sound wall up . And there were people who were at
meetings early on in the process who said that was jwt fine. And until the 11th hour when yo u were at our
last meeting. she said, and so was Mr. Leadabrnnd . that was the only objections we had heard up m that
point regarding the wall. Ms. Bradshaw noted the planning process has been going on for five YC3rS, two
for sun:, on that neighborhood. She explained that we are trying not to negate what was already agreed to,
wit h the rest of the neighbors. That is why, she said. we are going 10 proceed at a slower pace. I am trying
to explain our point of view . Mr. Mulnix said he can understand !hat.
Council Member Bradshaw asked if she had explained Council 's position on that fairly. Mayor Bums said
he thought so.
Council Member Nabholz pointed out that we are not goi ng to quit listening to that neighborhood. Council
Member Bradshaw said absolutely not.
(d) Joanna Mulnix said she has talked 10 sevm.J of their neighbors. and she has talked to the
lady al 3290 South Galapago and she is so upset she is l'C1d y to try to sell her house . that she totally agrees
and wants it closed . Ms. Mulnix said she had talked to L<e and Sherry Barton at 3270 South Galapago .
They're older people. she noted, and they nrc too upset about this whole thing to C\'Cn show up. They also
wo uld like to have it closed. The only neighbor that [ talked to, she said. that would n't completely commit
and wanted to think it over. is a person that takes the bus and would like 1m opening at least at Elati and
Inca to access RTD. And every other neighbor is in favor of closing it. She stated that they are concerned
about parking problems. people walking up and down from the apanments to the park. and they believe that
access should be along Inca . So they could access the park only on Jnca. Council Member Bradshaw
asked. Ms . Mulnix said yes, instead of people walking through their neighborhood. as they are already
having proo,.:ms with even the workers. the noise. and the polhtion, she said .
Council Member Bradshaw suggested she call Saunders and 1cll 1hem. Mayor Bums noted that is easy to
say. but it is kind of tough to know where 10 call.
Ms . Mulnix advised that they have been experiencing 1hc problems all year. all 1he neighbors have,
especially on Galapago Street. They arc trying to get :1cross to Council. she said, that in our opinion we can
keep our neighborhood and still have the shopping center separate .
Council Member Bradshaw asked if they want separate gates . Ms . Mulnix said yes, and closed . Out not
just ugl y wooden gates, she said. something that \li."Ould look nice; no1 ugly. brown INood gates. but pair.led, •
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stai ned . designed gales that would go with the de sign of the wall. Council Member Bradshaw said yes that
she heard thnl.
Mayor Bums commcnled that he though! this has been consistent for the lut several years, that this
neighborhood said they wanted 10 be buffered from the effects of this development. and it is consisrcnt with
our promise 10 them that that would happen . I think we should continue to work very closely on this, he
said . Mayor Bums thankt.d everyone for coming .
(e) Sieve Schalk stated he was with the Gothic Theater al 3263 Sooth Broadway in
Englewood. He said he just wanted to bring Council some numbers from his lut year with the three
percent sales tax he pays for every person that comes to his theater. Mr. Schalk explained that he is very
different than a movie theater, in that a pan of the gross that comes into a the.Iler is taken to pay for that
movie . He noted he someti mes has a 510,000.00 act , and he brings in $8,000.00, the City still makca three
percent or that and he has already lost $2,000.00, plus the three percent. La,i year. he said, he ,pen~
roughly, $423 ,000.00 for live 1alen1 and he brought in $270,000.00, the City made $8,000.00 and I lost
S 152,000.00. I would like the City 10 work with me for a little bit on this partnership we have nil talkcd
about for so long, he said . Mr. Schalk stated he is bringing cuhure to Englewood . lhat he suppons a new
dance thcalcr, but th.at be wants to stay in b1.1siness too.
Mayor Bums said that he was not sure we can make up that kind or gap . Mr. Schalk explained that he is
not looking to make up that gap, that he is just looking to eliminate that three percent sales tax. I'm
competing against theaters in both Boulder and Denver, and neither of them pays tax on ticket sales:, he
said. He no cd the bands pay stale and sales Ill. Maybe you can tcll me, he said, where my money goes,
where the llucc percent goes here in Englewood, versus Boulder and Denver when, they gel oothin&,
Where did n,y $8,000.00 go last year, he asked. Council Member Bradshaw said it goes in the Gcaerai
Fund. City Manager Sears stated it goes to provide poli ce and fire services. Mr. Schalk. commented that he
pays taxes on his liquor and everything else 100.
City Manager Sean said it is an admissions tax. it is actually l3Jl that he colleclS. But it is just like any
other business that collects that tax and it goes to the general fund .
Mr . Schalk suucd that live cntcnainmcot is a difficult business. He noted they arc paying taxes and h('
didn 't really see the justice of this three percent. He noted it is not a tax on the profits. it is a tu on the
gross. I will give you a tax on the profit. he said.
Mayor Bums said he is sure he would.
Council Member Dradshaw advised Mr . Schalk that Council would take this under advisement.
Mr . Schalk said that he had prepared a paper 10 give 10 Council with all those numbers .
Mayor Bums said Council would be happy 10 accept whatever he had wilh him.
8. Communications, Proclamations and Appointments
There were no communica1ions, proclamations or appointments.
9 . Public Hur1ng
(a) COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW MOVED, A, .. , IT WAS SECONDED, TO
OPEN A PUBLIC HEAJlJNG TO GATHER INPUT ON COUNCIL lllLL NO . 33, APPROVING
THE HAWTHORN SUITES PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
Ayes: Couocil Members Nabholz, Garret~ Bradshaw . Wolosyn, Yun:hick,
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Nays: None
Absent Council Member Grazulis
Motion canicd and the Public Hearing opened .
All witnesses were duly sworn.
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Planner Tricia Langon stated that thi s a continuation on the public hearing of May 15th regarding Counc il
Bill 33 for the Hawthorn Suites Limited Hotel Planned lf1it Development. The purpose of the public
hearing is to de1crmine 1he land use decision 10 consider the rezoning from R3 10 PUD for the intent of
constructing the 52 room hotel. At that public hearing on May 15th. she said, applicant Michael Plante
requested financial incentives to. quote , make the note I a. realit y. He requested 11 waiver of water and sewer
assessment fees of $127 ,000.00, waiver of use tax on materials for $50 ,000 .00. abatement of lhe sales tax
over a fivc •ycar period with an average of $45,(XX).00 per year. and an abatement of the lodgers tax over 11
fifteen year period , which averaged 522.000 .00 per year. Council directed staff at that time to research
approximately seven key issues related to the incentive reques1. Ms . Langon said she would like to thank
all the depanmcnts in the City that assisted with the analys is. It has been 11 complex and difficult issue, she
said. and not always quantifiable . but we did it. The applicilnt's request for financial incentives does not
affect th e rezoning of the land . although it does directly impact the project. The applicant's request does,
however. impact the City 's incentive policies for private development To tho.I end . City staff recommends
that Council separate the two issues inlo : one, land use, and two. incentive policy. Ms. Langon stated that
staff recommended thal Council approve the land use and either deny or table the incentives to another
forum . She said she wanted to point out. that in a conversation she had with Mr. Plante late last week. he
indicated tha1 he was not in1ercs1cd in PUD approval without an incenti\e package. the reason being that it
would encumber the property . If the PUD is approved , what you would have approved is what would be
allowed on that property. He indicated. also. that he needs the assurance of the Council for financial
incentives before he goes for funding . Based on the :m:ilysis of the issues, staff feels that the hotel funding
is not secured at this 1imc. and it appears that the :ipplicant plans to use City monies 10 leverage a financial
package 10 improve his de\'e)opmenl's bottom line and io produce a positive cash flow . The City is
generally no1 in the business to make money , nor is the City in the business to finance private development,
she said. So to that end. staff feels that the financial incentives requested arc premature . Ms . L:ingon said
she would like to review. quickly , the seven key areas thal Council requested that we review . First off. the
legal questions : The abatement of tax is illegal. What is le ga l is the rebate of tax . All tax must be
collected. and any incentive would have to be budgeted :tS an expenditure and then rebated. The financial
impacts . the requested waivers :ind reb:ites or abatements would. over the life of the incentives, be
approximately $730 .CXXl .OO cos 1 to the City . She explained that as part of the analysis. we did a
cost/benefit analysis where we modeled hotel assumptions projected over 1ime and based on typical
economic trends. The ho1el does provi de a value 10 the greater commu nity. However, it is not necessarily
that those monies would be spent here in Englewood . and those :ire the numbers 1hat are difficult 10
quantify ... the benefits . With those projections, the degree of accuracy also diminishes ove r time . Council
also :tSked ebout pre vio us incentives . Has an ything like 1his been offered in th e past ? She stated th.at the
waiver of water and sewer 3SSC$Smcnt fees has never occurred and that is in 1hc purview of 1he Water and
Sewer Board . and should be referred to them . The sales 1:ix has ne ve r been rebated; lodger 's tax has never
been rebated . Ms. Langon :id vised th:u they found 1wo instances whe re use 1ax was rebated, actually, one
package was with the First Data Corporation al 750 Hampden. where the y brought 500 jobs 10 the City in
that package . That waiver of the use tax was $26,250 .00 ; coupled with that was a use tax and landscape
provisions for Omni Corpora1mn . the owner of the buildin g. which totale d 517 .500.00. Toge ther 1hat
packa ge of incentives was approx1m:itely. $44,000.00. 10 bnng 500 jobs lO the City . There was also a
promisso ry note reducuon of S200.000.00 O\'Cr a ten year period to Dill on. which ,s a pa rent company of
King Soopcrs. as long as they kept a grocery store at 1he Trolley Store location . She pointed ou1 that there
arc 1hrcc other PUD 's in the Ci1y . and oone of those PUD's have received any incentives, that no use uix or
building permit fees were waived on this project, the building we're in tonight. or on 1tic Trammel Crow
residential development Under the hotel study comparison, she said . and the question on whether any of
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lhe studies predicted an incentive need. the 1997 report by Clarion, which wu initiated by the City,
predicled incruscd COSI for exlCnded•Slly hole( conccptS. They fell lhal lhe success of a hocel would be
bllSCd on the commitment from the hospital to close its own lodging facilities and 10 refer to the new hocel.
They also fell Iha, lhc holCI had ID be mulli-scrviccd. and no, just have. hospital clienlele bu,_ Clarioa
also roponed lha1 the slAndard holCI is a full-sized ho1el wilh banquel rooms and conference rooms ... public
rooms of that nature . The standard hotel wouJd require City incentives, and it was unlikely th111 those
incentives would be balanced by significant benefits by the City. Therefore , with that reasonins. she said,
it would be reasonable to wume that if the inc:enoves for the standard hotel produced little benefit to tbe
City, then the extended stay. bec.1,15e it docs not have restaurants or meeting facility rooms. would produce
even less benefit to the City. T~ .e Hospitality Re:il Estate Counselor's, Incorporated study done for the
client, the Hawthorn Suites client. showed a feasib ili ty that was hindered by a smaJI room count. and the
room rate wu not high enough to suppon the development cost and predicted a dcvclop1ncnt gap of
$468.000.00. The Sludics showed, 73 and a 69 pcn:cnl occupancy,.,., respectivel y. One of the
questions, she nmcd. concerned the capi tal ization rate of 10.5 percent. Mr. Yurt.hick rcqt,cstcd this
information. The cvalua1ion of the hotel is affected by the capitalization rate , it is a much more complex
mathcmaticaJ figure, bul very simply it is the net operating figure divided by the capitalization rate.
Therefore, she advised, a.s with any figure proponion. the higher the cap rate. th~ ll"wer the value of the
hotel or vice versa. The ~pilllization rate is the rate of interest considered a reasonable rerum on the
investment, and the applicant is using the rate of 10.5 percent, based on a discounted cash flow or the
projected dollars discounted to present-day dollars . The question here was whether that 10.5 percem was
an industry standard. And I was able to determine that an actual industry standard figure may not exist
because the capitalization rate is market driven. Capitalization 11tcs range from approximately 8 percent on
the coast of Manhattan and California. and up to maybe 13 percent in mid-America. The consulting
co mpany that we spoke with estimated that the applicant's rate of 10.5 percent for the Denver metro area
seemed reasonable. Mr. Plante distributed :i. handout that is Cxhibit 9 in Council's packet. she said, and
there arc a number or figures that we reviewed. In his handouL he stated that fees during consttuction
included a use tax of $50.000.00. The City's dc1cnnina1ion was lhal figwe would be closer 10 S42.000.00.
The handout demonstraled bu ilding permit fees of $69 .000.00. The City's cs1ima1C of !hat would be about
S 17 .000.00. Ms. Langon s1a1Cd 1h11 belWten !hose 1wo figures. lhc applican1's handosl is about double lhc
City's estimate of those figures for the cost during construction . The utili ty installation cost and the
assessment fees were reasonable cstima.tes. according to the Utility Department. We fccl these m the costs
of doing business here in Englewood . :md they arc less here thsn elsewhere in the metropolitan area. She
cxpl11ined 1ha1 these costs arc also reflective of 1his panicular site. As we discussed at the May 151.11
mce1ing. she said, it is a constrained site and that affects co sts. Also in 1hc handout wa.s an area called
yearly taxes before and after construction. The handout demonstr111cs that current property taxes arc about
$4,000.00. According to 1hc Ar:;ipahoe Cou111y Assessor's office. those figures on the propenics are about
$2.200.00. Actual monies received by the Ci ty arc 11bout 5245 .00. The majority of that money goes to the
school district and 10 the Co un ty. After consrruction. 1hc hotcl ... on the han<!out. .. is demonwa.ted to have a
propcny tax of about $60,000 .00. The City. she said . estimated lhat figure to actually be about $65,000.00
and. in actua.lity. the City would receive about S7 .000 .00 or property taxes. The sales tax of $45,000.00 per
year and the lodger's lax of approximalely $22 ,000.00. are yearly averages over a 10 year projection. and
they're based on occupancy rates and room r11cs and they seem 10 be reasonable estimates. She advised
that the revenues would actually be dependent on hotel sales . Mr . Plante indicated tha1 the effect of the
City's incentives would be to reduce the construction cost of the hotel 10 a reasonable cost per room and
1hat his intcnl was to use taxes to generate 11 positive c:ish flow . Fro m the City staffs point of view. she
said. this financial s1ratcgy uses City money m leverage fin:;incial funding ... sweete n the dc:i.l . if you
will ... impro vc the bcmom line or make the development profitable and again produce a positive cash f.'lw.
Ms. L1ngon said 10 summarize the incentives. when inccnuves are considered on o projec1. we would likt
to look al whether the project has adequate private funding, whether it is financially stab le . and whether
there is minimal financial risks relative to the public benefit . The questi on here probably is ... arc the
benefilS derived by 1hc Hawthorn Sui1es Limiled Ho1el baloncod by 1he request. She poin1cd out that lhc
Hawthorn Suites Limited Hotel docs provide a greater community good. although it is a limited public
service good because it does not offer the public areas. It docs serve a need that is currently lacking in the
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community, there is some increase in propcny tax revenues . It docs offer approximately tenjl\b:, llbeit
minimum wage jobs , and it docs provide some 1pin-off dollars to the greater economy. Again. lhil is
difficult to quantify as to the amount of dollars that the Englewood community would actually gather,
Hawthorn Suites Limited Hotel docs not provide conference rooms for proms or weddings or an)'thina of
that nalurc . It docs noc provide an opponunity for smrounding complimentary devdopmenl. For the first
five years of its existence it would not provide sales tax revenue. and for the first fifteen years of its
existence it would not provide lodger's tax . Staff considered it, not a question of whelhcr the extended Illy
is the type of hotel needed in the City. but rather is the extended stay Hawthorn Suites Limited Hotel die
type of hotel 10 which the City wants to provide incentives to1111ing $732,000.00 over the lifcllme of the
request. Again. she said. the hotel funding is not secure at this time. It appears that the applicant intends to
use City monies to leverage a financial package 10 improve his bottom line o.nd produce o. posi1ive cuh
flow . And a.gain, because the Ci1y is not in the business to finance private clevclopment, staff feels that any
incentive package offered by the City is premature Qt this time, and that the development does not warrant
an incentive package of this scnlc . Ms . Langon asked if Council had any questions .
Council Member Bradshaw said well done .
Mayor Bums swed that Council really appreciates oil the work that has been done on this . He noted there
has been considerable staff involvemenl. He noted they had also talked about rcceivin1 monies back from
the sale of the hotel at a future time. Ms. Langon advised that that is illegal under I.be TABOR amendment
Mayor Burns noted that collection of the tax by the applicant, without paying it to the City is oot legal
either . Ms. Langon said that is right, ti1ey would have to collect all tax, then rebate it nnd that would have
to tc rebated u ;m expenditure througt1 the Department of Community Development
Mayor Bums said he thought the applic,nt made it abundantly clear that staf."'s conclusion is exactly
correct. that they needed the financial package from the City . As we undcrst1 1nd it, they either haven't done
a lot of work with the bank on getting the financing or they realized some time ago that it wu not going ro
be financed by the bank without an incentiv i.::i. package from the City. So, h\: said.. the key question, indecJ.
is whether I.be City wants to ma.kc or break this project. That is about what L1C )' arc asking us to do . Mayor
Bums stated that for a variet y of reasons . a number of these items they have requested , we have not done
before. or the Water and Sewer Board has to do or whatever. He said it seems to him that there is jusl a lot
of ground we would have to break here that would be new .
Ms. Langon noted that earlier this evening we also saw another request for an incentive package of sorts.
Co uncil Member Wolosyn said she wondered why. on the Council Communication, after such a strong
di scouragement about voling for rhe incentives, there was the advise ment to go ahe.11.d and vote for the
zoning change. Because, she .11.sked. isn't each zoning change particular for 1hat particular use .
Ms. Ulngon said that is correct. but there arc 1wo separate issues here : there is the land use issue that has
only 10 do with the rezoning and th.11.t is what the publi c hearing was for. and the other issue was the poli cy
issue . She e~plaincd rhat they are independent ye t greatly tied :ogcther .
Counci l Member Wolosyn said then you just look at it in sort of .11.n abstract way ... that yes a hotel would be
good here so we could do a zoning change. but that zoning change doesn 't con tinu e if th is deal doesn't fl y.
She asked if that is right, if she understood that correctly .
Ms . Langon explained that the PUD is a re zo ning, and basically on the PUD what you approve is what is
built There is a pro vision within the PUD that the current residential properties could remain. but basically
it is for the hotel purpose. Ms . Langon noted that if the hotel is not builL that she thought the language
is ... if there is not substantial progress within a three-year time and that means a building permit is
pulled ... rhe zoning revens back to 1he origi nal zoning, to the R-3 zoning . Basicall y it would go away
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through a process . If you do approve the PUD , but without the package ror the incentive , thal does
encumber the land so that the only thing that can happen on that land Is the conti nuat ion or the e•iating
residential propenies or the hotel itself being built . She asked if that onswered Council Member Wolosyn's
question . Ms. Wolosyn said yes and thanked her.
Council Member Yurchick asked if the developers arc saying that if you don 't give him nmmcial incentives.
he doesn't want the zoning change . Ms . Langon said that is correct , because. as she understands it. it would
encumber the property. From our conversation .. she advised. she understood he was not interested in
encumbering the propeny.
Mayor Bums said that was my question . If the applic:int doesn 't want the zoning without the financial
incentive, who arc we to impose it on him? Ms . Langon said exactly, that she thought it was for Mr. P!a:ue
to decide whether he pulls the application and that is something that is possible.
Mayor Bums said that he sees that as just not good policy for us lo do that. Council Member Wolosyn
3Skcd for clarification. Mayor Bums said he meant for us 10 grant the rezoning when the applicant himself
doesn 't even want 10 do 1h31.
Mayor Bums 35}:cd if there were other questions . There were none from Council.
M, ltael D. Plante of E vergrcen Colorado advised that he was here representing the development tC3nt on
the pro;;:-µective project of the Hawthorn ':iuites Hotel. He said that tonight we have heard confirmation of
what h~ was asking for the last time at the hearing. That. in fact, the hotel does oot make a lot of sense
without the economic incentives. He said he would like to point out that they are incentives that are created
throu gh tax re venues paid for by the hotel. These llrC not revenues generated by any otl !f' source. He
emp :ia~ilcd that they arc not looking at propcny tax, which he heard mentioned several times. We're
loo ki113 :-t !iOme son of a tax payback after we collec1 the tax, and I believe the term I used last time wu
inMrrcct. and I stand corrected on thal. he said . Mr. Plante stated that a rebate of the sales tax. after they
arc collected, would be absolutely satisfactory. There arc a couple of issues, he said. that he would like to
bring out. First of all. he opined that what we need to address tonight. and the objccti\'c of this Council
meeting. should be to clarify in fact whcth~r or not the City could enjoy any benefit out of this hotel. and is
it worth the time we spent working oul the problem. First of all, he said, I think economic benefits <.:an be
very myriad and diverse in a hotel project. He pointed out that right oo•.v Englewood has three major
visitor demand generators : Swedish , Poners. and Craig Hospital. There arc others. but if we have that
need for people in the City of Englewood right now ... maybe under circumstances that do not please
them ... but nonetheless they're visitors to lhis City . He noted that right now you have no hospitality. This
Cit y doesn't allow visitors to the City to experience the City . Right now they 're going away from the City,
and who knows what other benefits go to those othe r cities . I have lo think back. he said. on where I was
three nights ago. when my brother was having cancer surgery al Poncr, and my brother-in-law and my
sis1er and I wen1 10 Fratelli 's afterwards . We were here. we came to the City and enjoyed the City . If we
were from out of town, we mighl be going lo Old Chicago, next 10 the Hampden Inn perhaps . But . he
no1ed . there is also a social benefil to the people who \'isi t the City . I lhink. he said . that we also have to
think about the citizen.\ of Englewood and reali ze that the homes that were built after World War U were
homes that housed smaller families and right now don 't iocorporate the idea of guest bedrooms and
situat ions where 1hc residents of Englewood could provide a level of hospiuility 10 the people that comi.: in
10 visil ... grandkids or children . Right now. he ma intained. there is no hospitalit y resource in Englew ... Jd
that could benefit the citizens :u large in a large pan of the communit y. He stated there can be other
so lut ions 10 what wc ·rc talking about. So . he said. if we loo k at there being no economic benefit bcc .. usc
we haven 't gencr:llcd the sales lwt revenues, because we are only taking them back 10 make sure that 'his
hotel does ~ark, then he would have 10 think that maybe schools aren 't ve ry necessary , or maybe
uni versities aren 't very necessary to communities because they don 't pay those kinds of taxes . Or maybe
our churches and synagogues arc n01 as imponant. Is hospitali ty not an important feature of the
community. he asked . I think the point is made that lhcrc is benefit . and 1 would like the Cit y 10 recognize
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that there is benefit while we look at this, he said. He stated that he :md the development team of the hotel
11c not lookfag for economic enrichment on this project. They are very interested in establishing a method
by which, if through an audit process we do not need these incentives, we will no1 take these incentives .
We are very interested in doing that, he said. Mr. Pla.nic advised that, with regard to the financing
commi1mcn1 , they have 14lkcd and 14lked 10 lenders regarding this process and they already know lhc
answer is no . We don't need to make application :ind find out it is no . he said. we already have that answer
from our lenders. Plante stated that the fact that they have no financing commitment is why he is in front
of Council tonight . because they cannot have a financing commitment under these constrnints in front of us.
We don't know that everything that I have discussed previously is the right approach 10 do this. he said.
We don't want a PUD on the land . We do not wa nt to change our land use if. in fact . we ca n't reach a
resolution on this . Because frankl y, he staled. it shadows the property for two ye3fs , and we don't want
that. He said he would like 10 suggest the foll ow ing alternative, that we fonn so me son of a task force
between himself and perhaps the Ci1y Attorney's Office , perhaps Bob Simpson or Community Planning ,
and perhaps our representative Council member and our bank . That we sit down and discuss possible legal
wa ys by which we can either rai se 1hc bridge or lower the water so that the ship can pass and we can
actuall ) have a hotel in Englewood . So with that , he said, his request tonight is that we look at some of the
benefits that the City co uld have and decide whether or not it is worth going one step further ; that we table
this to another City Council meeting and in the meantime we have a task force arranged of people of
Council's choosing, but it would certainly include him and his bank , and that we si t down and try 10 figW'C
out a way this project could be a reality. He thanked Council for their time.
Director Simpson noted that , first of all , this has been a really difficult application. He said he wanted to go
on record as saying that we're not at all opposed 10 a hotel in this co mmunity, quite the contrary. He opined
that it has been made very clear fo r the pas1 se vcml years. that this Council and previous Councils. have •
indicated a very strong interest in securing some sort or hospitality lodging in this community. To !hat end,
he said . one of 1he things Council allowed us to proceed with was a hotel study to see what kind of effons
cou ld be made 10 put a hotel in10 this community. This particular applicatio n. as I said. is difficult because
clear ly Hawthorn Suites is a qualit y hotel. I have personally 1ourcd a Hawthorn Suites that is located
within the Denver Tech Center, he said. and it is a wonderfu l facilit y. very. very good quality. It is a high
end product, in fact, and 1hcre arc some really great aspects of it from that standpoint. He said that he
thinks what it comes down to, and Council can see from the s1aff rcpon, is that Ms. Langon has done a
tremendous job of doing an analysis on a very difficult subject. From a land use standpoint. he noted, we
have no problem with thi s and. in fact. we arc reco mmending 1hat we proceed with this . The difficulty is
what kind of incentives are appropriate . Mr . Simpso n sa id that , at first blush . when an applicant or
de veloper tell s me there is no profit being made . I do have to smile to so me extent becau se the reality
here ... and it is noted within the applicant's information ... is there is goi ng to be a 10 and a half percent
return on invcs1men1. Thal i!i what the desired ra1e of return is. That is also reasonable . I have nothin g but
good to be said about developers making protit, he said, lblt is what capitalism is about . !hat is what runs
our country and 1hat is what is appropriate and reasonable in this particular case. But we need to rca!ize
there is a profit mot ive here. so somebody is going to do okay. APain . he said. we come back to what is
:1ppropria1c . Director Simpson said he would like to make a suggesti on, if Council is amenable. that we
table this until Jul y 17th. with direction fr om Counci l that we do take another look at these incentives.
Perhaps there is so mething that can make that boat fl oa t under that bridge. he sai d. but he docs not know
what that is. He explained that it is difficult to determine that because through ou r analysis ... and we ha ve
had staff that have looked at this very closel y ... the gap anal ys is doesn't provide us 1he understanding that it
takes to de1enninc wha1 is that appropriate level. So . he sai d, we :ire goi ng to be looki ng to Council to
determ ine 1,1,he the r we need ll proceed with 11iis. We arc in terested. we do wa nt 10 work and we wa nt 10
give ii our ver y bes t cffon . '.>o again. he no ted, it is going 10 be up 10 Co unc il 10 he lp us proceed.
Ma yo r Bumi asked if any Council members h:id a com ment. He commented that he has seen horcl •
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Discussion ensued between Council members. Mayor Bums explained that Council was just clarifying the
legal point of whether they needed to continue the hearing .
Mayor Bums commcn1ed Iha! ho hu seen hold propoaala for many years, and ho has even seen,w~iie 1eq1 ,
recep1ions where • holel en1i1y had announced they were going 10 build • ho1el and ii didn'I bapp:en. Thmo ,
are obviously some very significant financial challenges of doing a hotel facility in the City. I have no
objection to continuing this matter to another date to sec if the staff can work on this and come up with
some kind of recommendation to Council , he said. Mayor Bums commented that , indeed, the conclusi1 ,n
of the staff is the same as the dcvclope · said last time. that without the incentive package from the City, the
financing wasn 't going to be there . Ht said he thinks that is a real challenge to Council, because what
we're being told is. without your panic1pation Yr'C'rc not going to have a hotel . But, he said, he thought
Director Simpson's comments were appropriate, there is a profit built in here in this whole syllem and that
is another thing we can talk about if we have a task force or a group to review this further. He advised that
he is willing 10 do that, but he would be cautious . as he thought most of Council would be, as to what we
can do here . He pointed out that we have looked for more hospitality in the City for a long time and it
would be wonderful if we could have it. but he thought v ,~ have to have it in the proper term£. and be
faithful 10 the kind of mandate we have from the citizens o' •t-iis City, to be careful of our money and guard
our incentives so we 11pply them in 1he proper way to the proper project.
Council Member Bradshaw said at this point she wouJd move that Council direct the staff to continue1the
work with the developer .
Mayor Bums asked if they needed to continue the public hearing.
Council Member Garrell rcquesled pennission 10 speak. Mayor Bums 1old him 10 go ahead .
Council Member Garrett stated that he would move to close the public hearing . He noted that he is really
in favor of a hotel , but the question, for him, comes down to what level do they ner.d to be subsidized, to
him that is a policy question . He said he is not prepared to subsidize at this point. The reason I am not
read y to .subsidize at this point. he said. even if Wt. !live it another three weeks, is that be wantJ to see bow
this development works . he wants to sec how South Bro3dway works. We may have eoough econo~
generation going on here that we do not have to subs1 Jize. He said his mind won't change on that point.
He said is for closing the public hearin t and putting this 10 bed today. Because, he said , he doesn't think he
wants the applic ant 10 s1 end a lot of money or our staff 10 spend a lot of time at this po int He stated that
that is his view .
Cl uncil Member Bradshaw asked if this is a process staff could learn fro \n or not.
Director Simpson staled that we can aJways learn from all things, that there is value to looking at iL But,
he said, he al so understands where Mr. Garrett is at. I'm not sure we'll see a substantial change in three
weeks, but the re is alway s a possibility, he said. Director Simpson commented 1hat he knows how
important thi s is to Cou11cil and he just wamcd to giv e it another shot if it was imponant enough.
Co uncil Me1nbcr Bradshaw noted that she spoke early on about how we weren't going to give away the
Cit y to get a hotel. She said she didn 't know if this was on that magni1ude , but cerutinl y this is the greatest
subsidy she ha s seen come before Coundl in her 10 years on the Council . and she just can 't sec us
belaboring the po int. She tho1;ght if so methin g new could come out, she would encourage staff 10 do that,
she said , but if it can 't. then lc1 '1i just go ahead and vote, like Mr. Garrett said, on what we're do ing, at this
point.
Council Member Nabholz staled that she is with Council Member Garrett on this , that it is time to put it to
rest , this unbe lievable incentive package. I think staff has researched it from one end to another. and I
applaud them on their effons she said .
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COUNCIL MEMBER N"8HOLZ MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO CLOSE 11IE
PUBLIC HEARING.
Ayes: Council Membcn Nabholz , GD,m,tt, Bradshaw, Wolosyn. Yw~hick ,
Bums
Nays: None
Absent: Council Member Grazulis
Motion carried .tnd the Public Hc.1ri,g clr scd.
Ciry Attorney Brottman said he would like 10 clarify that by closing tho ~ublic hearing , this will come back
to Council as a second reading at the next Council mecdng on July 17th, unless the application is
withdrawn.
Council Member Bradshaw offmd her thanks to staff and stated they did a good job.
10. Consent Agenda
COUNCIL MEMBER GARRETI' MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO APPROVE
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 10 (a) (I), (il), (W), 10 (b) (I), (ill, (W), AND 10 (<) (I), (U), (W) and (Iv).
(a) Approval of Ordinances on First Rooding
(i) COUNCIL Bill NO . 51. INTRODUCEJ> BY COUNCIL MEMBER
GARRETT
A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 3. CHft~'rER 6. SECTION 7. SUBSECTION 7, OF
THE ENGLEWOOD MUNICIPAL CODE 1985. INCREA~ING THE BENEFITS FOR RETIRED
MEMSERS AND BENEFICIARIES OF THE ENGLEWOOD NON-EMERGENCY EMPLOYEES
RETIREMENT PLAN BY 3%.
(ii) COUNCIL BILL NO . 53. IN'RODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER
GARRETT
A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AND AUTHCilli.lNG THE EXECUTION OF
INTERGOVERNMF"TAL SUBGRANTF.E AGREEMENT FOR THE 2000 ARAPAHOE :::OUNTY
COMMUNITY DEV .:.LO?MENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM BETWEEN THE ARAPAHOE BOARD
OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD.
(iii) COUNCIL BILL NO. 54 , INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER
GARRETT
A !\ILL FOR AN ORDINANCE AMENDING mLE I. CHAPTEl 6. SECTION 2: CHAPTER 6B . 6D .
6F. 60. 6H . 61 AND 61 ; OF THE ENGLEWOOD MUNICIPAL CODE OF I 985 PERTAINING TO
DEPARTMENT AL ORGANIZATION .
(b) Approval of Ordinances on Second Re:ading
(i) ORDINANCE NO. 42. SERIES OF 2000 (COUNCIL BILL NO . 49 .
INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW)
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AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEM.SNT BNTrrLED "18 111
JUDICIAL DISTRICT lUVENil.E ASSESSMENT CENTER INTERAGE.NCY AGREEMl!N1"'
AUTHORIZING ALL AGENCIES PARTICIPATING IN THE JUVENll.E ASSESSMENT CENTER TO
PROVIDE AND SHARE INFORMATION WITH EACH OTIIER CONCERNIN1'J JUVEJl.11.ES WHO
PARTICIPATE IN THE ASSESSMEl\'T AND INTERVEl\'TION PROCESSES CONDUCTED BY THE
JUVE.Nll.E ASSESSMENT CENTER .
(ii) ORDINANCE NO . 43 , SERIES OF 2000 (COUNC~ Bll.L NO . 50,
INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW)
AN ADMINISTRATIVE ORDINANCE REPEALING TITLE 5. CHAPTER 29 , "SECONDHAND
STORES " AND AMENDING TITI..E 5. CHAPTER 15, SECTION I. TO 'NCLUDE "SECONDHAND
DEALERS"; RENUMBERING TITLE 5. CHAP'! ER ~9. SECTION 3, "SALE AND DISPLAY OF
WEAPONS" AND AMENDING TITLE 4, CHAPTER 4, SECTION 2. ENTITLED "DEANITIONS"
AND TITLE 4, CHAPTER 4, SECTION 4 SUBSECTION 3(8), ENTITLED "EXEMPT TAXPAYERS;
GARAGE SAU!S", AMENDING TITLE S, CHAPTl!R IS, TO IND~UDE SECONDHAND DliALERS
A.'ID AMENDING TITLE 7, CHAP'TER 6C WITH THE ADDITION OF A NEW SEC llON S
ENTm.ED "SALE AND DISPLAY OF WEAPONS"; AND AME"1DING TITLE 7, CHAPTER 6(F),
SECTION 6 WITH THE ADDITION OF A NEW SUBSECTluN C. OF THE ENGLEWOOD
MUNICIPAL CODE 1985 .
(iii) ORDINANCE NO. 44, SERIES Ol' 2000 (COUNCD. BILL NO. 52,
INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BURNS)
AN ORDINANCE APPROVING MILE HIGH COMPACT AMONG C.'TIES AND COUNTIES
ORGANIZED UNDER AND EXISTING BY VIRTUE OF THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF
COLORADO.
(c) Resolutions and Motions
Ci) RESOLUTION NO . 5 I.SERIES OF 2000
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN
THE ENGLEWOOD EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATION AND THE CITY o:: ENGLEWOOD FOR THE
PERIOD OF JANUARY I. 2001 THROUGH DECEMBER 31 , 2001.
(ii) RESOLUTION NO . ~2 . SERIES OF 20UO
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING CONTRACT BETWEEN THE
ENGLEWOOD FIREFIGHTERS LOCAL NO. 1736 AND THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD FOR THE
PERIOD OF JANUARY I. WCI THROUGH DECEMBER 31.2002 .
(iii) RESOLUTION NO . 53 , SERIES OF 2000
J. \•<«_.. ,)N SUPPORTING THE CONTRACTOR SELECTION FOR Tl-IE ENGLEWOOD
·• ~-' 1 ., i CITYCENTER ENGLE WOOD BY THE ENGLEWOOD ENVIRONMENTAL
1• .. !ON.
(iv) PROFESSION AL SERVICE CONTRACT WITH CLARION ASSOCIATES
.. C FOR PHASE I OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE (UDC) IN THE AMOUNT OF
S35 .000.00
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Nays: None
Absent: Council Member Grw.ilis
Motion carried.
11. Regu• ,r ,\i.·nda
(a) Approval of Ordinances on First Reading
There were no additional ilcms submitted for 3pproval on first reading. (See Agenda Item 10 • Consent
Agenda.)
(t) Approval of Ordinances on Second Reading
(i) Mayor Bums advised that this item is Council Bill Nr J9 amending the
Englewood Municipal Code peruining 10 Sidewalk Sales.
Planner Langon advised that on June 5th , Council held a public hearing on the issue of sidewalk sales, and
at 1h01 time Mr. Clayton of the Chamber suggested a change in the definition . City Attorney Brotzman has
drafted lan@uagc for the change of the definition to read a public sidewalk sale is a ··community event or
celebration allowing use of public sidewalks by Englewood merchants in the front of their business as
authorized hy the City Manager or designcc ." What 1his does basically, she explained, is remove the
review and 1he issues of when and where and how the sidewalk sales arc conducted. from Council. and puts
it on the City Manager or his designee. Those are the only changes . She asked if there were any questions.
Ma yc,r Bumi said lhey remember that and it seemed 10 be preny well accepted by the staff.
COUNCIL .WEMBER BRADSHAW MOVED, AND IT WAS SECl)NDED, TO AMEND AGENDA
ITEM 11 (bl (I)· COUNCIL BILL NO. 39, 116-8-1 DEFINITION OF PUBLIC SIDEWALK SALES
AS READ BY MS. LANGON.
COUNCil. Bll.L NO . 39 . INTRODUCED BY COUNCil. MEMBER GARRETT
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 7. CHAP'fER 6B , SECTION 6, TITLE I I. CHAPTER 3,
SECTION 3(.8); AND TITLE 16, CHAPTER 4. SEC.'TIONS 10, 12, AND 19; AND CH \PTER 8, OF
THE ENGLEWOOD MUNICIPAL CODE 1985. PERTAINING TO PUBLIC SIDEWALK SALES.
Vote results:
Motion carriec .
Ayes:
Nays:
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Council Membm Nabholz . Gam,1~ Bradshaw, Wolosyn , Yurchick,
Burns
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Council Member Grazulis
COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO APPROVE
AGENDA ITEM II (b) (I)· COUNCIL BILL NO. J9 AS AMENDED.
Ayes : Council Members Nabholz. Garren. Bradshaw, Wolo syn. Yurchick .
Bums
Nays : None
Absent: Council Member Gra.zulis
Motion carried.
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Council Member Gamm s1a1ed he would be nbs1aining on Agenda Items 11 (b) (ii) and (iii) because of a
conflict or imerest with his employer.
(ii) COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSIIA W MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED,
TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 11 (b) (U) • COUNCIi, BILL NO. 44.
ORDINANCE NO . 45 , SERIES OF 2000 (COUNCIL BILL NO . 44, INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL
MEMBER BRADSHAW)
AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING ENTERING INTO A "RIGHT-OF-WAY USE AGREEMENT'
Bt7WEEN THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD , COLORADO AND METRJCOM, INC.
Council Member Yurchick asked what docs it mean. in the third paragrap h, where it says "as well as
facilitie s owned by third panics ." He DSkcd who is !he third pan).
City Attorney Brotzman explained that if Public Service has a pole, in the Cit:· easement. and \hey get
permission from Public Service, they also need pcnni~s ion from us because they arc in our casement. So
they need pernussior. from both under that circumstani.:\!, he said . They have to receive pcnnission from
Iha! third pany , Mr. BrolZlllDn said.
Mayor Bums uked if there were any other questions. There were none.
Vole r,sults:
Motion carried .
Ayes:
Nnys:
Abstain :
Absent:
Council Mcmben Nnbholz, Bradshaw, Wolosyn, Yurchick, Bums
None
Council Member Garrett
Council Member Gruulis
(iii) Mayor Bums advised this ite m tS Council Bill No . 47 , approving an amendment
to the City's Basic Local Exchange Services Bu.su1ess and Oc cupatioM Tax .
COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW MOVED, AND IT WAS Sl!CONDED, TO APPROVE
AGENDA ITEM 11 (b) (ill)· COUNCIL BILL NO. 47 ,
ORDINANCE NO . 46 , SERIES OF 2000 (COUNCIL BILL NO. 47, r:-ITRODUCED BY COUNCIL
MEMBER WOLOSYN)
AN ORDINANCE REPEALING TITLE 4, CHAPTER 5, OF 1llE ENGLEWOOD MUNICIPAL CODE
1985 AND REENACTING A NEW TITLE 4, CHAPTER 5 ENTITLED "ENGLEWOOD BASIC LOCAL
EXCHANGE SERVICES BUSINESS AND OCCUPATION TAX ."
Council Member Nabholz said this staleS tha1 lhis is 00111 new, a Lax rate increase, an cxteMion of an
expiring tax , an increase in a tax , or a tax policy change directly causing a net lax revenue gain to the City .
So this is not 11 tax increase . That. she sa id . is her que stion .
Frank Gryglewicz, Director of Admin istrative Services. said that all this docs is reallocate how the tax is
collected . Right now it is a flat rate . and this takes the fl11t rate and di vides it by the number of existing
lines . It lowers the barriers of entry to new firms wanting to come into the City. he said . Because , as it is
currently. ev,n if they provided one line, they wouJd have to pay lhc flat rate . So, he explained , this
encourages competition :u the City of Englewood .
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c ,u,1.:,I Member Nabholz said then this would not be an increase on the tax that Mr. Schalk is currently
r.ayu,g. Dir<etor Gryglewicz said no .
Vote rosults:
Motion carried .
Ayes:
Nays:
Absu1.in :
Absent:
Council Members Nabholz . Bradshaw, Wolos yn. Yun:hick , Bums
None
Co uncil Member Garrell
Council Member Grazulis
(c) Resolutions and Motions
There were no additional resolutions or motions submitted for approva.l. (!)cc Agenda Item 10 -Consent
Agenda .)
12. General Discussion
(a) Mayor's Choice
(i) Mayor Bums we lcomed everyone to the fir st regular Council meeting in the new
d.ambers and hoped they would find these facilities much more useful th4n lhe one we left . We 'll be
working on the various systems in th e building , he said, including this room. 3S we go along to make them
,he best we possibly can .
(ii) Mayor Bums said he was asked. by the Chamber of Commerce, abour buying
two foursomes for the George Allen Golf Tournament scllcduled for July 12111•
MAYOR BURNS MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO APPROVE TWO FOURSOMES FOIi
THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE GEORGE ALLEN GOLF TOURNAMENT ON JULY 12,
2000,
Ayes :
Na ys:
Absenr:
The m.J ti on carried .
Council Membm Na bholz , Gam:11 , Bradshaw. Wolosyn , Yurchick,
Bums
None
Council Member Grazulis
(b) Council Member 's Choi ce
(i) Council Member Nabholz :
I . She sa id she appreciated having 11 number to call so that citize ns. like her, can have conUlct on the
weekend s if we ha ve .a problem with the dust and noise.
2. She t~ 1k.ed everyone who was involved with cleaning up nnd fixing up the family shelter on
South Grant. The help was greatl y appreciated. she said. and she wanted to emphasize that this is a family
shelter.
3. She welcomed everyone to our new Co uncil Chambers .
(ii) Counci l Member Garrett reminded Cour.cil th at. during the Study Se1.,ion , we
discussed canceling the July 3rd meeting because there is going to be quite a few Jul)' 4111 acth1tie~ taking
place Jul y 3~.
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COUNCIL MEMBER GARRETT MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO CANCEL THE JULY
3, 2000 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
Ayea : Counc'I Memben Nabholz. Gme11. Bradshaw. Wolosyn . Yurcbick.
Bums
Nays : None
Ah'.ent : Counci~ Member Grazulis
The motion carried .
(iii) Council Member Bradshaw :
I. She recalled it was almost a year ago that Council was dealing with an issue on Dartmouth
reg111ding a church across from a residential~-There wr.c some problems . she said . because Newcomer
Monuary wanted to come in lhac. at Dartmouth and University. 1nat church was purchased by a Korean
church, which had been shlrin1 the Emmanuel Methodist Church II Yale and Downing, She said she
drove by there and it really looks nice. it is a good use and she was glad Council didn 't violaie the
residential area by putting a business use in there. They have taken care of lhc propeny and maintained it ,
and she felt that, as a group, we made a really good decision rcac.ding that iuuc.
Mayor Bums said that was good to hear becau.sc Council took a strong pos ition on lhat.
Ms . Bradshaw rcca.lled lha1 wasn 't a very popular dctision, but she really f,:h the community was being
served very well.
2. She again welcomed everyone to our new home, and invilrd them I" keep letting Council know
about the dust problems .
Mr. Lcada~rand said he would . Ms. Bradshaw said she had a feeling he might and that she really
appreciated his phone call and giving us a heads up on that.
(iv) Council Member Yurchick :
1. He thanked Assistant Cit y Manager Flaherty and Public Works Dirccior Ross for soothing them
when both of the contraclon were showing up at the some time, and getting the parking worked out and
their signs put up. They seemed 10 be happy with that
2. He se.id we discussed a little bit about it in 1he Council meeting that EDDA is going to request ll
special process so they can get their tax diotrict on the November ballot this year. He said he requested that
they notify every business owner who wou ld be affected by this district so they can come to the Jul y 17th
meeting and have their input.
J . He said EDDA took a vote and voted to spend S55.000.00 finishing the concrete from the street to
the building in the 3400 b,0,1< of Broadway and the cast half of the 3300 block. He said he told them he
would ask Council to consider waiving the $20 ,000.00 they just asked for in lieu of them investing
$55 ,000.00 to finish the sidewalk .
Counci l Mcmbc-r Bradshaw asked if they were puaing up the S55 .00C 00. Mr . Yurch ick said yes. and we
wa ive the $20,000.00. Ms . Bradshaw said she had no problem wi1h that .
Mayor Bums felt it was a positive move for EDDA to participate in this and this is obv iously the time to do
lha1 improvement on the sidewalk .
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Council Member Bradshaw said EDDA means Fnglewood Downtown Development Authority, for some of
you sitting out there that might not know that .
COUNCIL MEMBER YURCHICK MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO WAIVE THE
$20,000.00 ASSESSMENT ON THE SIDEWALKS ON SOUTH BROADWAY.
Ayes: Council Members Nabholz, Garrett. Bradshaw, Wolosyn. YW<hick.
Nays:
Absent
Th e motion carried.
Bums
None
Council Member Grazulis
Mayor Bums noted the EDDA S20,000.00 payment is waived .
(v) Council Member Wolosyn said staff had jus1 informed her that on July 3rd we
had scheduled that public hearing about the tattoo parlor zoning. so she asked me 10 move that we
reschedule the public hearing for the July 17th meeting .
COUNCIL MEMBER WOLOSYN MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO R&SCHEDULE fflE
JULY 3, 2000 PUBLIC HEARING ON COUNCIL BILL NO. 48, AMENDING THE
COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE PERTAINING TO TATTOO AND BODY
PIERCING ESTABLISHMENTS, TO THE JULY 17, 2000 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
Ayes : Council Members Nabholz, Garrett. Bradshaw, Wolosyn, Yurchick,
Burns
Naya :
Absent
The motion carried.
None
Council Member Grazulis
Counc il Member Bradshaw asked how many members of Council volunteered 10 be in the dunk tank on the
Founh of July. She noted thnt she and Mr. Yurchick. Mr. Sears and Ms. Nabholz have volunteered. Next
year it will be the rl!.:l.: of you. she said .
Mayor Burns said he has done that. .. the dunk tan 1. nit in the face and wet sponge.
Ms. Bradshaw noted that she and Mr. Gmett take turns doing that. so she was just checking.
If you want a sho~ at any one of ls. come on down and pay your money. Ms. Bradshaw offered.
I 3. City Mana1er's Rtpon
(a) City Manager Se:Lrs said one of the things we promised to provide al the new Civic
Center is a good air conditioning system , and we have failed to do 1h11 this evening and I apologize
profusely .
Mayor Bums said he didn"t know how man y limes he had turned ro 1hcm in 1hc old building and asked for
more air .
Mr . Scars said he would make 1his a very. very high priority .
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City Manager Sears said we need to make some adiustmenu here, and apologiud to the audience and
Council.
(b) City Manager Sears thar.!-.ed Cow,cil and said he wa, grateful for the support of the staff
in making the change. The stafC just has done an incr<dibly difficult and are•• job, he said, and tharwd
those in the audience, Ken R"SS, Rick Kohm. Bill Amack. Jerrell Black, Bob Simpson, and all the others.
for rc:illy making an cffo1 " ·o 1iiakc this a good home. I just wan! to say J'm really proud to work with such
a good sl4ff, especially Mike Flaherty ovu here. he said. We're still assessing all of the issues, and we
have a lot to do in terms of finish touch up, but I want 10 say thank you to Council and the Mayor for all
your support. ( can assure you also, he said. that we haven 't lost faith in the continuation of the project and
we will main~in a push on that and will keep Council posted on the status of that so we can get this thing
closed and move ahead. It is certainly al the top end of our priorny lis1.
(c) City Manager Scars said Rick Kahm was unable to be at the earlier session thi s evenin&,
I have llSkcd him to come forward so he can Wk to Council about some or the numbers and design times in
terms of the wall. he advised. Mr. Kahm has been the project manager, and I didn't want to second guess
where were going, he ••plained. Mr. Sean felt we could probably proceed with the e,panded wall and the
gates. if Council would like to move. He said he wanted to have the facts and lay the concerns out to
Council. He invited Capital Projects Manager Kahm to talk about thal a little bit.
Mr. Kohm apologized for being kind of casual. but he was in the dirt in the field all day and he really just
stopped by to see how the Council Chambers operated this evening. You all look really good up there, he
commented. He said he hosted an open house at Bishop Elementary school a week ago ThUBday. Initially,
the meeting was set up just to spread information out to lhe community u to what we were proposing along
Floyd Avenue. since we hadn't had as good a communication as he would have liked. Subsequent to my
notice, he said. there were folks from the neighborhood that approached City Council and had concerns. At
that meeting there were several folks from the neighborhood . Actually, the meeting was attended by about
twenty citizens and about eight to ten staff members. There were four or five citizens from the
neighborhood that were concerned about the buses and the noise and the pollution, all of those things. In
the City's defense. there were also a number of folks in the neighborhr -.1 that spoke on behalf of the City
and felt that the City had. in fact. honored commitments they had made through the development process to
the community, he said. Regardless of that . Mr. Kahm stated that he thought we were all aware 1h11 there
was a potential impact on that neighborhood from the buses. He said he discussed at length at the meeting.
with Ben Greene . lhe City 's Fire Marshall . lhe possibilities of closing off the intersections at Fox,
Galapago. Huron. as well as 1he alleys, with putting up screen fences and access gates. Mr. Greene chose
to sleep on that. he said. Unfortunately. he went on vaca1ion. Mr. Kahm sa..ir', and he wasn't able to get with
Kieth Lockwood 10 finish that discussion until this last Fnday. At 1he mce1ing, the Safety Services folks
poin ted out that there arc really two responses to that area. In an emergency, 1here would be trucks
dispatched from Tcjon, as well as from the Jeffe rso n Station. They felt their primary response, to that area.
would be from Eastman Avenue . But Mr . Greene pointed out he would need a secondary access, because if
in fact 1hey disparchcd a truck and it came m from Eastman and laid hose, if they needed additi onal
equipment. they can't come in behind where they already lied on to the hose. So they need a second access .
When I concluded my discussions with Kieth Lockwood on Friday, he said, it was agreed tha1 in fact they
r f")uld li ve with gated intersections, so we could close thar off. At Galapago, right now, there is a seventy-
five foot opening . He explained that the reason that is seventy-five feet. is that that is the on ly place
through 1ha1 area th:u we had provi-Jed for pedestrian access across Floyci Avenue to get back and forth. If
you consider that we have a thirty -two foot street and wc·rc lining our han,iicappc i.J ,am ps up with the curb
and gutter on both sides . that creates th is forty -five foot ope nin g. In order 10 have proper sight distance. so
the fo lks aren't steppi ng out from behind a wall. it was necessary to hold tnc wall back the additional
distance . So we ended up with a seventy-five foot op:mng . Mr . Kahm said . prior to the meeti ng at Bishop,
staff had already reevaluated that crossing for pedestrians and concluded we could probably get by with a
pedestrian crossing on ly on the west side of 1hat intersection . So we had alre:i.dy talked about narrowing
that opening by th irty feet The narrowing would take place on the east side of Galapago, he said. We
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would just extend the masonry wall one more section . So. he said, we had already concluded we could do
1hat. What we're looking at right now is that we talked about closing all those access points and putting in
wood gates . He said he understood there was 111so an interest on Council's part to raise lhe wall by two
feet. He said what he would recommend this evening , is if they were inlel'C$ted in raising the wall, that it
would be prudent at this time to just reisc the wall by two feet. because oiherwise we would go m IJ.tC put a
seven.foot fence to match the seven.foot wall . and if we came tack to raise the wall to nine feet, then the
fence would only be seven so we W'OU!d be back changing the fence and the gates out. Mr. Kahm said,
while he was siui ng in 1he back of the room, he looked at some numbers. in case it would be of interest to
Council, budget wise . We are . in fact. dealing with about 1,200 feet of brick wall out there right now. He
said he hun 't talked to the contrnctor, but based on the price of that wall , which is about $80.00 a foot to
build. he is assuming it would be about S20 .00 a foot or approximately S25,0t'.X).00 to raise it two feet . So ii
is not a major cost. he said. that can be done . We have also looked nt the cost of closing the thirty-three
foot openings with wood and with the woode n gates. and even at nine feel. he felt it would cost about
SIS.000 .00 . The only additiona l cost we are looki ng at. he said, is that by nlllTOwing the opening at
Galapago we .-1 to add thirty foot of wall and that would cost somewhere around $3,000.00. So overall.
we're looking at a cost increase of about $45,0CK>.00 to SS0.000.00. he said One thing, he said, that he
L1lkcd 10 Bob Simpson about at the conclusion of the mctting at Bishop school. was whether we thought
we should lotally close that neighborhood off. Our staff opinion was that we really need to maintain the
pedestrian access at Galapago . In fact it is a quaner of a mile between Elati and Inca. While we heard
from some folks on Galapago that were concerned . it is really a large neighborhood , nonh of there, and we
think tlut probably a pedestrian access through that point would possibly benefit tlut whole neighborhood.
But that, he said, is of course Council's call . In talking to Safety Services, it is still necessary for us to
maintain thiny-thrcc feet between the masnnry openings at all the streets and intersections. Because even
though the gate is only twenly feet, these fire trucks have 10 swing in and swing out. If. in fact. they swing
wide, they don't mind knocking down a wood fence , but they don't want to hit a masonry wall . So we do
need the lhirty-thrcc foot openings.
Council Member Bradshaw noted that Bill Mulnix said he wanted it to be thiny-five feet. Mr. Kahm said
we are at thirty-three feet at the alleys, we're at seventy-five feet at Galapago and we 're recommending
pulling 1ha1 to fony-five , he said . The reason it would be at forty-five is. if we're proposing pedestrian
access, it is offset to 1he side of the intersection . (n other words. he said, in all the other instances, the
1hirty-thrct feet is centered on the street to the north.
Co unci l Member Bradshaw said she was glad they were already thinking ahe:id.
Mr. Kahm said that actually what they proposed at Bishop , if Safety Services supported it, that we cksc the
ope nings and put in gates. But again , if it is necessary 10 raise the wall, all the wood would be at sew:n
instead of nine.
Ms . Bradshaw said that was what she had proposed earlier. was that we just raise the wall
City Manager Sears said. based on this. we can go ahead and proceed . He said he wanted to mJk-: sure we
were okay aud that we had looked at all the different angl!s . But if Mr . Kahm feels comfonable. a..'ld Chris
Olson spoke earlier saying the Fire Dcpanment was satisfied with this , that he felt we could proceed Wlder
those guidelines. he said. II will tD.ke so me time to get the wall up , and in terms of fabrication of those
gates. it ma y take us a mar.th or so before that actually happens.
Mr. Kahm said chat is correct. We have the RTD station opening in a sh ort period of time and we need to
concentrate 011 getting 1hat usable. But, he advised. we will 1mmcdiately start working on the design
changes and gelling the gates fabrica ted . He sai d he agreed with Gary Sears . that it will probably take four
or five weeks 10 get those improvements in place.
Ms. Bradshaw said we will monitor it closely .
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Mr. Kahm said. during the same timefnune, we'll also be working the ma nonh of the brick wall between
!here and the propenies. We ha ve got a road to widen 1hcrc and addi1iorw.l screening fences 10 put on thok
adjacent propcnics. he sai d. So there is additional work to be done there as well.
Co uncil Member Bradshaw thanked Mr. Kahm .
Mayor Burm asked. as part of the ope ning and preparing for the bu.'iCs and so forth, where we arc, at this
poi nt . on the steps and the bus turnaround and that sort of thing. and how much of the piazza docs he
cs1 imate will be finished by the time the RTD light rail opens .
Mr. Kahm advised that Saunders Cons truction had provided him with :i sc hedule that has the things we
need to be functional for tt:c ope ning of RTD . Basically. that says that all the roads on the project will be
paved: again, 2Cping in mind that all the asphah at Galapago, Inca. the Parkway, is b(ing left down an
inch and a half, because of all this construct.ion activity that will take place over the next months with retail
and rcsiden~I being developed. And th-:n we will top those streets out when we're done. But all of the
streets will be paved . Right now the north parking lot is basically complete. Floyd Avenue will be done
fo r the buses 10 get in and 011t. Inca will be done up to Dartmouth and we expect that sienal to operational
as well. The bus bays wi ll l,e full y operatio nal. The sidewa lks adjacent 10 th e bust-\'di be complete,
he said. The top lift was pJ ured last Friday nn the ste ps coming off of th e bridge. melt syalem is
alrc.idy in place. and the ·nt:.al fabri cator for the bridge is prepuring to put the rest \. ·~ki n place , he
advised.
Mayor Bums asked ,·.,hen the bridge would be op.:ra tional. Mr . Kahm responded that it -vould be about
three days before we need it. the 10th or 11th .
Mayor Bums said there would be a tour of the light rail by City official s on 1he 6111• He asked if that means.
when it Slops at the bridge, the bridge wou ld not be co mplete . Mr. Kahm said that is right. On the 6th they
will probabl y be pouring decking .
Mayor Bums said we probD.bly don't even want officials there.
Co uncil Member Bradshaw said, on the 611r,, all we're doing is riding to Mineral and back .
Mr. Kohm sa id the statio n it self. the pl:nform is :e:i.dy to go.
Mayor Bums said Ms . Brad shaw was probab ly r;~ht. There probably won't be a stop there anyway.
Mayor Bums asked if there would be parking . si nce they're saying we may get 10,000 people on Sa1urd11 y,
the 15th. Mr . Kahm advised that Tra,nmel Crow is agreeable to all ow us to park in their area. RTD prefers
not 10. so he felt it would probably be an ove rflow si 1u111ion. The other thing that ma y be available to us. he
said. alth ough he has not discussed it with the Wal-Mart folks. is the Wal-Man parking lot. which he felt
would be paved al tha1 time.
Mayor Bums said we can stir up a lot of dus1 on that si de . Mr . Kahm agreed . In fact . he advised. there is a
call list that was provided. at the beginning of the projcc1. to Safety Services. so 1hey have emergency
numbers. including my ow n. he said . Saunders is prepared to respond. They do. in fact. have a water truck
on the project . But 1t is really unfortunate when things happen . like Sa turday. Saturday I was playing go lf.
he said. and I couldn't sec 10 get across !he brid¥;e from the dust that came off of Bituminous Roadwa ys
property . It happens in a hurry . and by the time folks ca ll, it is probably go ne by the time they respond. As
we go fo rward , as more of these parki ng areas arc paved. the problem will lessen. It won'I be very long
before Trammel Crow starts coming out of the ground and every time they put in foundation it is that much
more si te th t is n't susceptib le to the dust situa :i on . We will cor.linue to work on that , he said. He noted
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the; h1vc :11rc.1dy ralked aboul the weekend of the 14lll, 'with the number of people we will have there thD.t
we wir l just continuously water, but that is a real e~pcnsive proposition. you ca n't ann·cipate when the
w 1'1ll1 are ~oing to come up .
Council Member Nabholz thanked st:1ff and Safety Ser vices for ancnding and holding that meeting at
Bishop, and making themselves av:iil:tble, even though it was on a S1uurday. And thank you for the
conti nued support; she said . You listened to those citizens. She commented th:n Mayor Pro Tern
Bradshaw mode 11. very good ana.logy, that we ha ve been so used to this place being quiet , not used to the
lraffic and hubbub of che old Cinderella City, that it is difficult when you add in four hundred buses around
here, it is going lo take some adjustment.
Mr. Kahm agreed .
(d) City Manager Scars said we have a new Information Services Director coming to the City
from Kirkland, Washington, and he will be here on Jul y 12th . His name is Don Ingle and he is outstanding .
with a grea t background . I appreciate Director Gryglcwicz· effort, he said . He has done a marvelous job of
keeping the tT program going. And the telephone system here really is great. So as soon as he gets here .
I'll put hi :n in contact with Council. he said .
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Ci ty Attorney Brotzman did not have any m.:mcrs 10 bring before Council. .....
Council Memocr Nobh olz said Thursday night 's concen in the park had the biggest attendance she hnd ever
seen.
Counci l Member Bradshaw congratulated Mr . Scars for m..king ii through Ride the Roclcics.
Mr. Scars sa id he was just happ y to be here . He co mmented 1h111 he rode against 60-rriile-an-hour winds,
but he chose 10 ride against those winds . He thanked Council.
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