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Thc n:piar ~ of the Englewood Cily Council was called io order by Mayor Bums at 7:35 p.m.
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The imllCllion was given by Council Member Nabholz.
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Toe PIDIF"' A1lqjjancc was led by Mayor ew....
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Absent:
A quo,-w:as prua,l
Also p,escnt:
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Council Members Nabholz. Cllfll', Gurrcn. BradshJw, Habenicht
Waggoner, Burns
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Cily Manager Scars
Cily Al10rDCy Brottman
Cily Clerk Ellis
Neighborhood and Environment Technician Langon
Dirr.ctor Gryglcwicz. Finmcial Services
(a) COONCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO
APPlltOVE TIO: MINUTES OF 1BI REGUIAII MEETING OF APRIL 20, 1998.
A-, Council McmlJcr, Nab.'lol1. Gam:IL Bract.haw, Habenicht,
• Waggoner. Clapp, Bums
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{a) Mayor Bums IIOtOd that Micbacl Cou~e has generousl y come back. after our little
technical prot,km ab• weeks qo. He arlviocd that Michael Cooke is a D01,z las County Commi ssioner
and Dc,ner Regional Council al Gcm:mmcnts Board Member. He welcomed Ms . Cooke .
Miclml Gook thanlzd (',iuncil for the opportunily to appear before tl1em tlu s evening. She s1atcd that . for
the i-.,._ years, the Regional Council has honored local governments through their 1nnovnti ons
Award Pn,paa. 'lluoagh this program , she c.x~lai.,cd, they rcrognizcjurisdictions and pco, .e in tl1osc
juri,_ b 111cv arativily in solving complex problems tluough inno\'ati\'e programs that serve the
ccmmunily ia -cfficicnt WB)'S. This year, she si · ' the Regional Council was joined by their sponsor,
TCI. as ...U a COAlrimJllm, H K Centennial Engin.. .:;. George K. Baum and Cornpany, Inc .. Public
Service ~· of ColoraJo and United Power b,·. :,orated. in presenting the lr.llOYations Awards.
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Their prog,amjudGCS reviewed appn»lim..'toly l5 projocb .,__......,. fiom II local 10\'CIIUIICllll,
as well a•• number of oth< 1 jullll!icllol,1-·st11C1C11~.8---....._ ....,.ood, Ms. Cooke
advised, wok second place in lhc prograr 1 's Public/Private l'll1nrnllip .....,, for lhc Safe Summer
You th Outreach Pmg,am. thal ofrm youth a-. .-Jtiw-... ~-A1 lhc RA:gional
Cou ne ll '1 Annual Awanls llanquei, held II th< end of Man:b, 111c DOted. lilly n,cogaiud tho Director of
Parks and Rec:rr,uion Jcm,U Black and Universal Cffllzrta Vice Pn:sidcal ad Gaw:nl Manager Gene
Felling for their worlc on lhc Safe Summer Project Tonight, s1,c advised, * -bore to pr:sent Council
wilh an Innovations A ward plaque for !heir Sllppon and porticipllioll in Ille Safe Summer Pnig,am, Ms .
Cooke stated that they, at DRCOG. congrntulalc Council on tbc prognm. SIie pra,cntcd the plaque to
MayorBl\fflS.
Mayor Bums thanked Ms. Cooke and he congrntulatcd Diru:tor .Jardl Bid and tl1c Parka and Rccn:al ion
Dcpanmcnl He said !hat Mr. Bl ac k and TCI arc to be a,ngnlUlalaland llcakd for oDOlhcrround of
applause for !hem.
Diroctor Black said !hat he would also like to acknowledge Gene Fdling. rr-u..asal Cooccru. who
was a co-winner oflhis award. He stated lhat if it wasn't for Mr. Fdling ..,llis group providing lhe
funding, we certainly wouldn't have lhc program He also recopiad the Sai2y Services Division. who
wo~, closely wilh Parlcs and Rccn:alion on lhis program . Also, be aid, lhc lila:natioo Services Manager
Gary Hultberg and his stall'. as lhcy arc lhc ones !hat really make Ibis progra11 work. Duec..:,r Black stated
!hey really do appreciate it and he wanlcd lo acknowledge than. CaunciJ !\.baber Habenicht asked Mayor
Burns if they could have lhosc people llalld so d!ey could~ and imnk lhcm. Mayor Burns said
sw,, and n<>led lhal Gary Hultberg was present and asked Ila !Jo 1lmll ap.
Mayor Bums thanked Michael Cooke for coming again.
(b) Mayor Bums ad,i scd lhal John Mcckcr Chief Exa:uti>e Olliccr a{ Developmental
Pathways. was proscnt to~ information on their West 1:bcllanr, facility . Be noted a lot ofpccplc
turned out las1 week during Council's Open Forum .
Mr. Meeker staled he is lhc Diroc:to: of Pathways and llat :.. ••anlal to bcgim ,i lh a fonnal s-.atemcni a.,d
!hen tum lo a raponsc lo some of lhe issues lhal have been ra.aed in thc r= DO'A'Sp3J)Cr article and tlien
open up for questions. He asked if !hat ""' agreeable with Council. Mayor Barns said lhat was fine .
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Mr. Meeker Slated that he has been asked by lhc Council to .,.,... tonigbt ID ..,.,..ct Ill allqations made.
and actions taken , by persons in lhc neighborhood surrounding die 1lcme OWIICd by Devclopmcnral
Pathways on West :henango . This home is occupied by.,.,. dmlllcd itldivdal. and is stalfcd 24 hours
per day . He advised Ihm !his individual has been livin,, suCCC';sfu ll,. ia single nmily residential
neighborhoods for mor,: lhan 10 year.;. Our raponsc. he sai d. i> belt summam:cd by comparing our
experience at this home "i th that of his previous rtjiden cc, which "as in a 5Dlllllar neighborhood just n few
miles south, also an R-1 . r,:sidential neighborhooo . Tiial home is being rcx,,,:mcd lo serve peopl e "'ith
ph ysical disabilities . Mr. Meeker advised !hat in his previous n:sidcnc:c thcrc -= no incidents wh ere
ne ighbors"""' distwbcd or placed at risit and in lhis ruidcna: there have bcm no incidents . In his fo rm er
nei ghborhood neighbors greeted him and stall'with a wa>'C or bclh,. and tbc:J lbcl pcd QCb othcr di g tl1e ir
cars oul of the snow . In lhis neighborhood. he said. neighbors have subjected liim 10 hostile glares and
the ir staff to racial slun. In his fonncr neighborhood, if neighbo rs had '11JCStlCm5 or concc ms. the)·
contacted Pathways management and asked lor a response . In lhis neighl,odiaod no one called Pa~tways
managcmcnL Instead . neighborhood leaders circulatccl a fl yer co niaining ddmaory and unsubstanti.1te d
allegations designed to promote fear and hysteri a. and rallied n:sidcms to_. at lhc City Coun ci l
meeting 10 demand some kind of action . Mr. Meeker staled tha1 this indhiduai ilas presented no tlucat to
an yone in lhls neighborhood . He expl ai ned he wa, bom wilh menial r,:1311Nim -S with devel opmental
needs !hat rcq'1irc suppon and supervi sion and he likes lo kocp lo bimsclt: He ,s proud of his house and
help ;• car,: for II. Ne ighborhood children liave played in hio frool yard on ... a:a1 ocxa,ions _.,Lhout •
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iDCldenl .-he mowil 111. Ho and illall'lllte10Ul<cwalluinlhenol(ll,barboad. HeWIIIIS IIOlhiA9 more
lhan In"""' • qulel 111d i-,dlll bci,,,e In • nice Mipboltloocl IIISll:ld be hu beca llllely ponn,ycd as
IOlllli 10rt of violenl' dlnM ID netghborhooa children. MrJ Meeker IWed dial bis addreu bas beca
published in a Mldeloul ftyer 11--dlllribulm ID 200 homcholdl lhrou&houl lhe ncighborbood and
beyolld.' He llllillli-i lie hall been raade a 1a1p1 or rear and dillikc, 111111 lie bas doM absolllldy oothina
10 deliem, 11111, ~ 10 lie a pelllllllwilh disabilillca who lloolu a iillle bit dill"crcnt. He asbd COUIICII 10
iapie llul, !Iii plftllll-ftiet lraowili& ha has been ainglr.d OUI and branded u 10111C1 kind of
COIIIIIIIHUly llval. i <JW 1'0llid anyone hlft llel If llli1 Wll doae IO !heir SOIi Of daughler'I Mr. Meeker
swat 1111• ilc 1'Mlcd 10 be .cry clear lhal Pallnwy1 docs no1 blame nei!ll>bors fos having COIICUIU.
especially dlosc who ,_.ed aRcr .,.ing such an inllammalo,y ftyer. ltl1 ,_,...,., for neigJ,bon IO be
curious, he nolcd. and sonll:lilllCI concemed aboul lhcir new ncigl,bon wilh dillbilides. 111d Ibey welcome
the opportunity 10 laJk wi1II !hem by phofte or in neighborhood moetings. Our objection here, he achi""1. is
lo lhc INIIIICf in Wbicb die.....,,. of lhe O:· ,tr.hole lo pulSll< lhcir COIICOIIIS. They di<! DOI cor 1:1
Pathway& manage,_ 10 ditcua llleir co,ants. They did nol conlacl Paalnny110 check orvcruy lhc
In' Afflllion lhal lhcy publl1bed in !heir flyer. They did not seek any IOlwons shon of inV" JJl 8 Ibis
individual's privacy and trying lo hound him from Ibis home . In mon, lhan 20 yean of dcaltng ,.;th
neigllborhood concerns aboul irtcgraing pcO!)le wilh disabilities inlo residential neighborhoods. he said. he
bas never <KOWlleted a dc&malOly MWi oflhis kind on 1111)' llldivi,luai wldl diabilllies. Mr. Meeker
lllalOd dial Palllnys reqU<III dlal lhooe """°nsiblc fcqlUblilhlng and dislribut .ng lhc flyer publish a
upod retracoon and dislribule 11,1along with lhis ora umilar ,wcmea1&om Padaways, 10 lhe same persons
n,cciving the finl flyer. He comrnenlcd lhal lhcy wen, hopeful thal Oily Council wi!Lcnr.owage those
n,spoasible to take lhi;; c:oncai\'e action . They dcsirt lhat Ibis situation be remedied in a fair and ci•il
manner, he ,aid, bul ifnecesmy !heir organization will £<Ck legal rcdrm from those MIO originaled the
Oyer for the clCII' violalioa of this pcnon's righl lo live pri\'llely and pcooofully in bis home. Mr. Meeker
staled !hat Ibey apprcciale lhe dTons or lhc C11y or Englewood 10 resolve Ibis situ.lion, and to do co
withoal ful1hcr injwy 10 lhi5 '.ndividf'•: Mr. Meeker no<cd Ibis i1 the endnfhis limnal swcmcnt and be
woald like 10 commc,. on a couple of lhings lhat were reported In the llliclc.
He said he lalked 10 Mr. Munds and he was very fair and. with on, rninorlhillg. bcquoiC<J him absolutely
c:omctly. Bul Mr. Medtet said. loe -.Id like lo clarify some of the mcasagcs. Finl. there is a suucmcol
in the article 10 the cll'cct 1h11 when Carolyn Fulton alleged !hat she coDIIClcd Palb,nys. &1 ,e was told that
Palhways bough! the house in No\'embcr and one of the n:p"'5Cl11aliws !old us noighbo,. that it would be
USC'l 10 ttain handicapped indi 1iduais lo live on !heir ov.11 . They aiso said lhc people could be ,iol<nt or
~ i:riminnl n,cords . She said we as neighhon don '! like lhatalall and (be n:1i:lc111 lhere now is bein g
kq,I in his room and rcpol1Cdly can be violent. Mr. Mcci<er staled lhal be called Ms. Fulton this afternoon
and uted her who she bad spol<cn lo and she lnfonncd him that she had made a generic call to huh1'-ays
and asked who we scrv<d and was lold lhal we train people 10 live independently in lhc community . She
also sp,cillally asked lfwe serve poople with criminal n:cords or wilh violenl bchavio ,. Mr. Meeker
explained that anitody in their organirtion would have answen,d yes, because they SC1''C o\"er a thousand
indi\iduais and families N'd. over lhc course or the ycan, t~cy ha,·e served people like that She did not
ask that qucstiot1 about ll"e indi vi dual in lhis home and. he rucsscd, lhcy had no idea sbc w: s calling .,;th
reference lo the home on Wes, C11 ·nango. The second point. h• said. is lhc rcfen:ncc lhat Ibis is a half-way
house. which suggests Y.>mc sort or criminal activity or that somebody is in transition from an irutitution of
IOIDC kind where Ibey MR incarcerated He noted lhal lhis individual, as he said. has been li'"ing
succasfully in lhc community for 10 years . He statca lhi s is an individual that docs n,quirc, Jp<nisio n.
but he is an individual that Ibey ha\'e leam<d how to serve ,~ry well and to help him ru,\"e a ri ch life in 11,e
community . Mr. Meeker emphasized tltat he is not • Oircat and he has 1101 been a bother 10 ne ighbor.;
Finally, in tcmlS of what s«ms to him to be so mcwh,.1 1 or a pattern of rumors , which, he Qpincd. ine,itably
occurs whcu people don't take the time to check "i th so urces of informalion . He s.1 jd he wan1cd to ;e late
to the con v...:rsation thal seems lo be at the crux or the concern here, which was a conversation bcrwcrn one
of their staff memb:n ;u,d lhe \Vil .nan who lives ne xt door . It had 10 do with lhcc~ildrcn next dooc playU1g
in their fronl yard. Thal stllemcnl from !heir staff was 10 this affect lhal we did nol say keep yow ki,ts in
lhc house. we did no1 say do not send your kids ... th ey ca n't play in our yard ... "~ rcque<ted that if u,ey
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were, 1bat "be iaronn.d mAlllltllo illdiridllol liwiilsilulis home coukl rbe il)fo.._t.,,Mf, ~cekl;r saljl;!I
lhat belikctlokceplO ..... taodllo.,. lbe._ ... ad ilis-for.U,~J¥1".~r ;llJ9 ,ltaff ,,,
simply asked to be iabniod. ao tllil itllllrc-doil6al tlae.il QIIIW be·el<plaimd .to lli6 ruide,a or thc
homo, tllal tho kids....., pi.yins ill till 9-,-d. Midi. lio IIOled, ._,, have done on• oumoer of
or.c:aslonawtlholil iacideal. Mr. ~ ..... --•-bu 50~J,oen lllllW!lled, as il
goes dcwn the rumor mill , to ll8ff ll)'ialtlbal ........... ahould lrecp lhcir chikln:n ~ and DOI have
1hem ooiside playii,s because nf tbia illdividuaL Noailla alUld bo llutbctrfrom Ille bUlh. be _.aid, Mr. ,
Meeker lllled lhal lhcre 1111 -beca 1117 __,.., llis entire liiio, diet be is aware nC.nd be bas Im.own
him for lhc 1151 13 or 14 )Uri. tbal irMllved~-,, lwldoftbra110 any child l\'balSOC\·er. So Ille
allegatior, Iha! 10111CMW lhil individual ia a.,_• ~ is limply not IN!;, He said he "·ould draw thc
analogy to -body who may have a cnllday ...-,ldad who lives al home aud doeso ·1 like lhc kids on '
the lawn ... and Ibey say to Ille nm,hllor ... wdl • .,... ym let us know or may~ !Jcep ,thc kids aff lbc lawn
Mr. Meeker said be doubts IUl Ibis ia• ueipbur-.1 lrllcR: eve,yt,ody ,llas lOlally ~ -to
eve')i,ody'sprivale propc,,y. Hcatateddoal-.. .lhll•'I.S~-lhal lhcybc info.rm<d. He
insisted tbal INI individual ii not a dual to~ iD any way . With 1111~ he said, be woold Slop and '°"
if Council has any qUClllions. . ' Mayor Bums advised 11111 oollllllly ln dlcac ci.-nc:e,; we have sta1emcn1S made ajjd ll)crc is oo
dialogue wilh lhc Council. But, he said. be inqaiml of Com!cil ca,\ier m S!lldy S..Siop. iflhC) would like
to ask questions and hove -dialopc and IM)I' Ilic! )U. Mayor Burm asked ;r any Council mcm~rs
had qucstiona or comaata • tbia poinl '" . " Council Member Bnodshaw ulu>d >OW may Dnidapmcnlll Pllh,..ys Incorporated homes there arc in
Enslewood . Mr. Meeker ...i be doaa't bow. lle::a>.'C be tllirll<s ill~ or Anpaboe Counry and
Aurora. He noccdhc caaldtdlCcunciltbcy lacaaut 12 to •l4irl,tt.ar.ea.bu1 hcdnesn 'lkno,.· how
many othcr11hcrean: illEnglcwood. He saidbe-•,ny. Couaoil ~ Nabholzasked if be could
get Council ihat infonnation . Mr. Medler Did 11£ca,linly can. Mr. Meeker advised thal probably ar most
one. They na,.., homes in LiWelon, unincorponll::d Araplboc: County and Aurora. He said he lhought that
,.., pr,tty much i~ lhll be did Dal llliak there -any ill Englewood, bul adv ised that he would get
Council lhat information. So, Council Ma111,a; Gim,a aid, be tbou&bl this W'I.S the only one in
EosJewod . Mr. Meeker said it is the GIiiy oae 1"<ca nocall II U,c ino,ncnt. because, he noted. be is nol
exactly sure of the boundaries for Englewood.
Mayor BumJ asked if then: was auy particular crilaia tbcy use when looking for a location for a home for
their people. Mr. Meeker said ia. lhcno arc. & ....i lhll they obviouoly look for a home 1>ilh a nice
environmenl for the people they serve. Tbcy alsDar, lofiad an envinxunent that ts going to match the
needs of the individuals Ont live lhcre. In .-call<S, be l>OCtd, it rally is just a maner of findi.ng a house
that is physically suilable. Mr. Meeker commeaed tlaa tbcrc are a lot oC nice ocighborhoods in Arapahoe
County and our area Whm lbcy look. he~-Ibey do nol ta,gct a neighborllood . TI1ei have a
realtor that goes around and looks for a home t&a .as our criteria. He maintained that lhe onlv
co nsideration Ibey would cvcr give 10 ancipbmliaxl WCJUld be if they knew some of lhe residents in that
home bad jobs. Say they had jobs in Littlcloa. -..u probably look for a home somewhere do"n in this
an:a. he said. as opposed 10 over in Aurora. jllll m 6cy can get to their jobs. In some cases , in this
case ... which is one of U1c reasons they are so ,mptisr:d by lhis. they thooght this home was ideal . II is on a
dead end street basically, there is just one ncigllboJ-and it is very quiet Tiial is something this indi,idual
likes. is just a quiet place. Mr. Meeker advised IJi:a ~ thought. as lhcy have been successful umc and
again. Uial lhey would simply be unobtrusive. ...,. people in lhe neighborhood . Somehow. he noted , that
ha.s not worked out in this case .
Council Member Habenicht commented thal IWJbc she misheard. but she Utought he said U1~ ilave been
sming this particular individual for say 12 to l♦ _,_ Yes, Mr. Meeker said . Ms. Habenicht asked what
critcrio makes them dlange one home lo 3llOlba:. cma: they have someone placed in a home or dc·,elopcd a
hom e. or whatever. She questioned wha1 prcciplOrltS a change and do they change rcsidenlS in these homes •
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oftea, or liom Ibo way ,be ~.il ... <lo t1icY OW11 ~ ho'!!!', ~,q -!'l)d she )"IH\ld ~ Sh,\' docs DOI
quill uadenlan4 ,Mt,~r ~ Jllal SC11cral!y. they dq µy IO,k<ql P.F!',Plc ill a sj~o'1' whc:R ~ ls
conllnuity, but !here AR limol wheo lhqwiU l1llll<c ~-UfWllly, ii is for '!(>mcbQdY Iha! mayi,,: got 1
job on lho odw ~ of IOJOD 111d ,-en: abllo 10 wort< ii ouj 10 where Ibey '!'ere able 10 fflO'/P 10 a pvup bomc
or ae apanm.,.* on lhal side of town. •In Ibis cue, be nolCd. thcy have n,o olhcr gro~p bomcs..hc lllouJht
one wu in Lillklon and one ill unincolporalcd Ar.apaltoc Couolf. lha1 lhcy n:cci\·ed some JUDdiJJa to
n:novate and expand. The n:ason fjJl lhal is lhal they bllyc a number of individuals .who arc becoming
elderly and lhcir llbiUI)' 11>·1~ llllWld isn ·1 very good and we occdcd a couple of facililics lha1 ~ oo oac
level, very ac:a:ssible. So, !hey had two homes that wen: very well suited lo bcin~ n:modclcd and c.<pandcd
in lhal fashion and one of the homes was the home in which Ibis individual was li,ing. 01hcrwisc, Mr.
Mcckcr advised. be ,would Rill be then:.
Council Member Carrctt ask .. d , bcfon: Ibey purclwe • borne and move inlo a neighborhood. if lhcy U)• 10
make oolll&Ct with lhc neighbl•rs IO let them know what is go4'g on, .a lhcy CUI undcrJI.U1d thc siwa:ion.
Mr. Meeker a.lviscd that it all C:cpcolls on the cin:umslan<CI. If it is a group home, he said, absoluldy, as
thal is a home 1h11 ft1Quin:s licensing. it i, a big chaogc for the qcighbqrhood, bcc:lusc lhcy will have
anywbcn: Cron, f011r to cighl individuals, ii is a home that has 10 be licensed . For inslancc, be said, when
they initiated the n:modeling of U-olbcr two homes, be band dcliveraUctters IO all of lhc adjacent
ncigltbo11 explainina what iltcy wen: doing and ill vi tins U1C111 to oonlact him if the)· bac! questions. In fact.
he noted, !hey did aad ~ bad a~ good meeting, they 801 lhcir qucsliqas ansv,·~ M'1 t¥>' arc ,-cry
pleated. la a ..... Iii<• tltis, whcrv it ~ simply one individual moving into a,small. in a quid
ncigltborbood, JICIICllllly they would not. ;Ho explained that they try to keep '!,low pRJlilc. Gcncmlly, be
said, ilncighbon have qucslions they willa,mclllll(uk us. So, he nolOd, ill Ibis ca,c we would not. Mr.
Mcckcr staled that they walk a difficult line on this, that these an: individuah ,.;th full legal rilh!5 ~ all
citiuns. Ho pointed out thal when somebody else moves inll a neighborhood, there is ocver any
sugcslion that neighbors would be notified of who tl,cy an: aod why lhcy arc mo,iltgill, or maybe wbctber
they llave a crimins1 n:cord o, aaythiog like that He ad\iscd they feel their obligation is 10 cnsun: thai the
individuals an: well cared for, that they an: placed appropriaiely. so that iltcy do not pose a risk to the
ncigbbothood and Uiey have b<en c.xtraon!inarily succc,sfuJ al that.
Council Member Garn:11 noted that it =ms like in tltis case, for whatever reason. then: was ... what be
characterized probably as a mi500mmunication between one of his employees and some of the neighbors.
Which obviously, he commented. by the tum ou t i, oo longer a low key , quiet affair. Mr. Garren asked if
he was ~i~Jing to meet with the neighbors now. just to go through some of these iSSl.ies. Of cowsc. Mr.
Meeker SIA'cd, they an: alwa ys willing 10 meet with the neighbor> and lney ob,iousl y would have pn:ferrcd
to do lbal b.:fon: a flyer wcnl out 10 200 people, some of them thn:c or four miles away from this
homc ... according to the addresses on the ,ignup sheets . Bui yes, he insisted absolutel y, they have ocn:r
n:fuscd a meeting with any neighbor of any home that tl1ey operate .
Council Member Garn:11 asked if he would be laking the initiat n·e 10 sci up such a mcc1ing now or if he
expected 10 be contacted or how this process should wmlt. Mr. Meeker advised that what llSll3ily happens
is somebody from the neighborhood contacts them anil says they would like to have a meeting a,1d they
suggest a place and tl1cy come and they sil down antl tallt. Mr. Meeker explained that they don ·1 fccl they
can have the meeting in the home. it is his 110mc and that would be vcrJ invasl\·e.
Council Member Clapp said she tak es it they just ha\·c Lh c one individual currcnLI~ li\'ing al tha1 address
Mr. Meeker said Uiat is oorrccl. Ms. Clapp asked if tl,cy have plans for additional in di,·idual s to move LD.
No. Mr. Meeker advised. their intent was thal tJ1i s would be a long lcnn rcsidcn1i.al placcmcnl for tlus
individlL1l.
Mayor Bums asked i,'therc was a particular reason why this individual was aJonc. He no ted Mr . Meeker
said he likes to keep to himself in a home , but Mayor Bums asked, is that mo st of it or arc there any al.he r
reasons why t11cy would have this individual just by himself. Mr. Meeker explained that it is because he
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likes q, be aloae, be doeilll't do wd"Wilh ruomffllla ... ,I Ii very imponant'!IYhim to haw his OW11 space.
Mr. Medicrlllled be Im•--, 111e ll)'(ldtome, it'l1-...Nng<ui.t1Dllly •~small Nllber,of
people In die coun1ry hnc. II i-a a.llllon Ii,! woo llom wi111, Mr. Mel,tter explalntd, ho bu no anibol
over it, butdiey ha..: ...,,...ad)' a to work ,mh this Individual and he hill a wry t.ppy lhomo life .
Mr. Med.er IIOled lhai be...., .... llldler this ofterriooit, jllll to let him blow what -haptlOlllng. His
comment -1h11 hi , -is• ...... 111d has been doing the best ho has done In hi■ entire life, in the
last lbfte or lbur years. Mr. Molltlr ft!ilenied that they """"n,ally'llgun,d oat haw lo work with this
individual and provide him a .-life and make him be a good neighbor. He sakl he has been a good
neighbor.
Council Member Nabholz aaed il'dleir supervision were to break down wilh this individual. if !here was a
~"" or an asswanc:e, to ._a:ipborbood, lhal lbere would 1101 be any problems wilh either lhc
children or neighbors. Mr. Meda'--.! 11111 be c:a't ,r,e 11111 g,arar!lec, anymore than lhe ntist,borhood
can gn,e him a ~ Iba ...ty ill rile neiglibarllood would ... r act oul Mr. Mocker adYilOd lhcy
have monitoring of this inlhirllla diey bave 24 hourllllrin lhe home and ifhe lenves lhe home on his
own !here !s an alarm ~ ....., ., lhe slall' would be llencd. He noted it has not been for many yws,
but the few times he has left m llil own. he has.,_ always c:omc baclt withaul incident Nobodv hns
ever been injured. Mr. Ma:br-.1 it is usually because he wanted lo gel OU! and do something else or he
was fruslr...i. Again. be ~GIi. be is not lalking about 1111)1hing !hat has happened in the last lhree or
four yean. He Slatal dlis ...__ Im been doiaa cxucrnely ,.-e11. !here ha..: simply been no incidehls of
any kird. But no, he md, lltca"u1ake1 guarm,lec ... whll ·be can say is thal they have been 5JC1Ving this
individual &ira lmgrimo _,_..,,_., had those kinds of breakdowns and !here is no reason to think
they will . Mr. Meei.a• llatal lkJ lta\'c an extttmely good staff in this home, 111051 of them "'"rkcd with
this individual for a narnuer rl ,-..
Council Member Nabholz.,,.. _,. are trying to clear up miscommunicallons within lhe Englewood •
Herald, Iha! it is her .mdcr 5 g ._ if this individual were 10 get out, wi1houl supervision, there i, no
need for the neighbon to all 91 1. Or, she asked, should they call !he police . Ms . Nabholz asked wh. t is
the pro1oc:ol. Mr. Meeker said l!bc,e are a couple of things. lfhe left on his own, lhey would nol wan1 'um
olf on his 011 n, for his ow,, prnoie::tion. So , he advised. what they would appreciate is , if the neighbor
would come over and knoct .,.. 6c door and let lhe staff person know. if for some reason he hadn 't corr,,
ou1 with him. Or, he said. if tlml...,,. lhc case and the neighbor had any conc:cm at all...ycs. call 911. J1 !I
as you would if you have a ama:m about anybody in your neighborhood . Bui again, he nO(ed, lhe
probability oflhal being the cise is c,ctrernely unlilcely .
Council Member Bradshaw aol:,:d. tor lhe record. if Mr. Meeker would give the people in tlic audienc . the
phone number where he aialll lie n:acbed. Mr. Moeller said yes. al 360-6600.
Council Member Waggoner saad that he mentioned staff people in the humc . He asked how many staff
people are there at any one~ time. Mr. Mel:ker advised ii is one 10 one . so they ah,~ys have one
person in tlic home. Mr. Wagoner aslccd if that is at all times . Mr. Meeker said ii is n1 all limes. unless
lhcy go oul... now he is OU! ol lite bome a 101. The., go inlo the community, the S1alT al the home frequently
involve him in family activme-,.;o, !heir own families . 1lial Mr. Meeker said, is the kind of so called
thrc:lt he is. So he is out of tkhamc a lot but st.1ffi:: with him when he is out of the home and st.nffis with
him when he 1s in the home.
Council Member Habenicht s:md she had a qucstii;,1 ju.st 10 throw out. She asked what was !he next step
Council Member Bradshaw $Ind that she thin!~s the neighbors mee1 \\ith Mr. Meeker.
Mayor Bums commented th.it k would tlunk so an d hope so . Lha1 the neighbors would mccc \\1th Mr
Meeker and ha\'c that conummccati on He noted Council has a memo from the City A1tomcy about some
of the legalities iTI\'Ol\'cd ~ But. he said . he thought the immcdialc concern is with lhc neighbors and •
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Council Member Hallenlchl uked if one of the COlllllllllUly RlOIIII would be an~ .........
such a -JI. Mayor Bums aid he clidn't know why not. City Manage< S....llllal _.,... _. tmt.
Mayor Bams ubd Mr. Medler if be WDRld be intcialed in U... Absolutely, Mr. Modra .,_ He ailtlOd
that his cblef rcpt is the conversallon 1h11 appscnlly arouml people 's concerns. happened.lillc,.-x m
seven woc:b aao. ADd, he aid, the flnt !boy knew of aaytlling was when he got a call _,. 6c Oity
Council meetlns lut Monday nipt. Mr. Me.ser stated lie ~ !lave deeply approc:iatcd 1k ca'l ad tllcy
n:main deeply concemcd about the effi:ct aI this Oyer MIi 1h11 this home bas now been idmilim and dlis
indMdual bu been Wgcted u somebody who is danpmus to the community. Mr. Mc<brapiillod tbal ii
is c.,aanely llllpOllalll that dlat damage be undooe to tbe -that it can be.
Council Member Bradshaw asked how he would.., thll being undooc . Mr. 1',1e,otcr said i.:....,. a flyer
should so out, lh>m the same authon. n:tr"'1ins the alleptioas, with the same distributiaa. • tklOO
households that !boy sent it 10. He noted that then: is no way they can aow control the -.'Old oL -■Ill tbal
has been generated fror. that. But , he said, he docs think ii is very imponant. .. imaginc ay.Cmwilbout
having any opponunity 10 n:spond. having a flyer distributed 10 200 families in your neighborlaood and
being told, llllscly, that you werc a danger to I.he ncil!hborhood and a violeot per,on.
Mayor Bums commented that 1h11 will, obviously, be pan of bis di11:11SSion wilh the citma. tla lie plans
ID have.
Mayor Bums asked if I.hen: wen: any other comments or suggestions from the Council me-...
Council Member Nlbholz asked if I.here arc age rcquimnents, do they take under the age ol la• 21 or do
I.hey have to be a ccnain age. Mr. Mc,lter advised thal I.hey have a huge variety of programs-1bey sen-c
binh lo clealh . In a home like this it would be an adult. Ibey actually have two childn:u 's .....,.__ but most
of I.hose individuals have now aged into adulthood . But. usually ll1ey would not place someb:xi'f in llli•
setting until they were 16 to 18 years old.
Mayor Bums asked if I.hen: """' any other comments or questions. A5 there wen: DODO. Mar,-Bums
I.hanked Mr. Mccltcr for romi ng tonight
(c) Safety Services EMS Coordinator Jim Ulrich advised I.hat be sc"'tS as a ...,ia aI the
Air Life Memorial Pa,1< planning commiucc. He noted that. as everyone is aware. there...,. a--..,,.,,
crash last December that alfccted the whole EMS community. He said he was here to introdlocz Wicbxl
Gn:coc. He noted Mr . Gru:oe has been with Ai0·Life for IOyears and has been the p,_......,, fo r the
past S years. Mr. Ulrich stated I.hat I.hose living in I.he Denver area enjoy probably the best EMSdclh-cry
sySlcm in the coontry, spccificnlly in the soul.hem metro area. And so. he said, somethiag lii<.c tlms alfa:ts
us ralhcr deeply .
Mr. Michael Greene thanked Council for allowing him to address the ~tayo r arn:1 Council riembtrs. He
said he ,muld keep his corn men IS brief. He staled I.hat on December 14. I ~9 7 Lhrcc mcmlns af Im Air
Life team died tragically down on Sou01 Santa Fe, just a few miles from hen:. They "uc 01 a massioo of
mercy and were tran spo rting a critically injured p,1ticnt who also, trngicall~. had surtcd the :ieq,.-:c>cr of
events 0131 changed many lives 0ml ,tight In the days and weeks that followed . he noted. be bm:d lumscif
deeply sadde ned and fearful 0131 ltis friends and co,workers that gave their Lives would be forgooa,. He
said he found Lhal he was not alone. Through I.he sorrow he found others lilce himself thal-= sard? .,g
for a way 10 honor and n:mcmber Leslie Fcl~:,JWI. Pete Abplanalp and Beth BartJcr and I.has llc:pa a gras5
roots clfon I.hat is today something a litOc les5 formal Lhan I.he Air Life Memoria\ ?ark ea........_ He said
they n:ally wanted lo create a place Ota! would pay honor to Leslie Feldmann. Fete Abplanalp ¥!Id Bclh
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Balmr_._. lt....,lihmliaa pn,ceu dlltqly,.,.. ~d 4alcriplion IOlli&'IL He,uid be wu bete
tonipl 11> IIA: 11> Council aboul dlle parlt. IO explain it and ail< ior tlieir 51\Ppon lo 1111\'IO lhal ~ aiaJity,
Moll ...,.-Jy, be noced, he ii p-aleful for the COl!lmunity i11pj!,1n lho-J all the me nbciS oflhe Nr Life
...... __ _....., _ phylicim, bawroa:ivcd. Theaulpo!.,.ni uf ,;,ppon miir. lbecolllllllllllty !!as
boea u---. llc llid/ud it bu heired~ ... awr.l kll. Mil llid hcUIO\Jljn'.~all,orr""""il
r=iwd ... ~ in their iad<cts lonighl lhal dclails the 11\<morial porlt ·•·id h• IX iol<d DUI the artist's .......,.ar.,.pn. whlcb be 11111 displayed on a ;ripod. He said be ....,led 10 poi•d out some of the
r-. Bo...,.. Mt. Ulricb 10 pus out bnx:hun:s, IO the.mcmben ol lhc a,cnmu tity in the audience.
Mr. 0.-e,q,laiaed lhal the Memorial Put will be OD the west side of Santa Fe •1.OJlg lhc Mary Carter
~.jlllllO the cast ofCulautial OolfCoune . The pork will featuru very large public...., lha1
wiU loea -nx:k with roclc bcnches,'tt will fealllre a -•rdcsigo lhal will have bubblcrs splashing
waler 1p _, a met Iha! wiU be etched willl geese laking olf io night Off from lhc main ,pul,lic area will
be a nx:k pm, leads bad< IO a mon, Cllllllelllplntve spot Lhal they have designed with the bclp of the
famitia -.,.,,., artists lhat arc working oo thc parl< with lbem . That spol will feature a circular of rock.
willlildlallld< will be ctdled the saying: "When you awaken in lhc morning's hu!h, I am the swill
uplilliog .-, al qllid birds in circled night I am the soft 1181 lhat shines al ni;;~I. Do nol stand al .ny
812"" -0f'!. I am aot lhcR; 1 did not die." Mr. Greene staled thal is the perk and i.e would be glad lo _..,..,.._._
Council Mmibcr Habenicht .-bim 10 rqat the location . Mr. Greene C.'<Plained Iha! lhc location is just
south of'Prilloc SlrCct on the west side of the South Platte River along the Mary Caner Gr=way. Council
Mmlia' .....,._IIOlcd ii ii ..i ol behind 11111 sculpllll'e. west of the sculpl\lre. Mr. Greene said yes, that
scalpllff •• the cast side of the Platte River and that is the site of lhe accident He noled the helicopter
came 11> n:sa jmt on the fairway of the golf counc.
Mayor S.. aarDOllled Iha! it looks like a lm'Cly memorial . He asked how much time they think it will
laltc ., -!ml. Mr. Gea,c advised Iha! they plan on eight IO ler. weeks of construction. They
-i.t likc•ar:alt ground Utis5Ulr. ~er IO haw: the parl< finished before winter seis next year. He noted
thal rigllt..,.., as far as furxing for tnc porlt goes, the City ofLildelOn most graciously has funded $20.000
out ol a St00.000 cstimale for the park. Swedish Medical Cente r bas also funded $20.000 and lhe
coDllllllDi(!. :in a '"''l' grass roou effon has come forwa rd with about $15.000 . Mr. Ulrich. in his dream.
drcaml ofam event 10 coinc ide 1>ilh EMS week. die proceeds of which will go lo lhe park. And, he noled.
they -z ,golf IOWDllllCnt that Health One pulS on for lbem and the proceeds will also go for the p,,lc.
So. he said. ihcy an: hoping thal 1>ill be a significanl move in lhe direction of gelling ii dooe.
<:,,aacil ,._ Habenicht asl<,d if he bad approached the Arapehoc: Greenway Foundation and lhc Soudi s.-P.ada. Mr. Greene advised that he bas spoken with the Soulh Suburban Pnrl<s and Recreation
Districl. -illlis is actually laJld that they mamge and so thn>ugh lhe approval process he has been before
lbem ..-..:cal limes. So. yes he has spoken with them and Ibey broughl some questions aboul the design and
some aci-macs. but thal has boon it So . Mr . Greene advised. lheir suppon ou1 lhere would also be very
n.ocll~ when 1hey speak lo members of the Recreation Disllict .. .just lheir suppon of the project
He said he blcn\--s ii is in the Cit)· of Littleton. bul ccrtainJ y many of the citizens from Englewood, down
inlO unm:mrpora,cd Arapahoe: Counly . "ill brr.cfil from lhc park.
Mayor --that he read U1c full names of lhc lhrec people . Mr . Gree n dvised dial Pete Abplanalp
was the pdi:lt. piloting th e aircraft 1h31 nighl and die nighl nurses 11~rc Be1h Barl>er and Leslie Fel dmann .
MayorB thanked him for coming toni ght and commented that it looks like a wonderful tribute 10 them.
Mr. Ulridi,.advised thal lhc c:,.'Cnl lhey were lalking aboul is the Air Life Memorial 5K run/walk which will
be held~· 11" al Hudson Gardens in Lildcton and he had applications if anyone was interested . He
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Mayor Bums aoced lhal lllcre arc ICYClaJ pa,ple slpcd up to lpCak IIIM• .-iced were al last ,.,:cit°• open
fo,um thal won, cooamied obout lhc w .. C'-8go ... icr. He aid lie wald ..,_. Jbal liDcc ~-had
I dialoauc wilh lhc ,._;.., o(lhc company lhal Comcil lllipt lilCi floe to do lhc same .. ,lh lbe
people who '11311110 speak OD tbe SIID1C subject .
(a) Carol Bel~ 4871 Soulh Lipan Stn:ct. lllalal * -..... a,prisod and a lialc shocl:ed
due to the attacks and Iha llvals nlldc by Mr. Meeker. SIie llid sbc ........ lie -comin& bcre to lllfo m,
lhc Council regarding the bouac. She acknowledged Iha! st,c and bcr ...,_. _.. responsible for U>C
Oyer. It wa.s calkd slallderous and inllammalo,y and also~ -• about leaal redRss. 5llc
staled Iha! she didn 't realii.c that poosibly lhey would have to ba,-ca iw,,,erlloR. Ms . Belt adYiled thal
lhey found oul r=ntly that Dc:vclopmcnlal Palhways is a S 10 million a yes busi.ocss ... non-profit
corporation. So, she said, she would suppose they could do a lol olk:pl ~ to tbcm . Bu~ she ;:rued,
ii was no1 their intention at all lo dcwnc this man. Sbo said U----6illg said about racial ,;urs.
that she lhoughl that wu mcnlioaed at the community fonun aJ,o. Ms. Bdl ad\ued that she hu oc< beard
racial shu,;fromany oflhciracighbors, that lhc ncighborsllCX!doaran:i-.-,ic and~ isa1"".5b
neighbor on lhc olhcr comer. Sbo pointed oul thal lhey have IIC\'Cr had MJ ,-,l,leals like, lhis ia the:r
neighborhood. She Dlid ,-Iv , ..ould guess lhal she would have li)GI • uve a COll'o~ wilh
Dcvelopmallal Pathway,· OUl lhis particular poraoo IDOYiag illlo !Ir'-ariph.~ lbat lhi5 is tbolr
community . She noted .'· ,ias lived lhcrc 34 years and their neighbors ha,,: lived lhcn: lhe same amount
of time and this is !heir -nmunity . Even !hough ii wasn 't a group home it ""'1ld have bcco very c:,:: and
polile ol'thcm to info, ,,em. ML Bell opiocd lhal lhil ii \'Cl)' lllllionmalc aat all of this is coming about
right new and c:spcci, lhc way Mr. Mcckcr lalkcd. She saicl,b ~ ii llillwbed qui1c a few oi :icr
neighbors and she ht~,.od when !hey get up to talk they will Uy to Sia)'• calaas slk· is right aow. S umbcr
one. she said. lhcie ,,. ,n: two words on the Oyer ... one , "balf-vay ...,._.. and ant was ",iolen1 person."
She &lllcd thal U : ,x,licc told !heir neighbor lhal this panicular gmdcma -violcol Ms . e..11 sa;d Iha!
she lhoughl M.. Fulton called !heir repn:scnlalivc Dot• ·t Gam:n MCI she ala> c:allctl Dcvclopmenlal
Palhways and apparcnlly lhc 8S5Wnption wu Iha! lhcte could, \'Cl)' well be a ,'iolen1 person there. 5:bc said
she docs not lhinlt Uuswasan Wllnllh. tl 101 ii was maybe an unr..--ao be used, bu1 this O,tt did
nol jUSI address that. She advised that ii nddrcoscd another a,nccm reganli.lg their pad. SD it ...... ·.:
wgcting lhis one individual al all . Ms . Belt emphasized that she would Iii< IO ma.ke lha1 very clear She
said she wrote down so many nolcs from whal he was saying and he said -iting about because :,,:: looks
dill'cienl She Slated Iha! many of lhcm do not even know what be looks like. if be were to get oot c:' the
house !hey would nol know who he was. IJUthfully . She said be all0 --something about Ill<:·
tl1ou ght it was an idenl location on a dead-end stn:ct. Bu~ she poi.-cd -. lbc dead-cod stn,ct happ:::,s 10
be ri ghl next 10 lhc Belleview Parlt Chenango parking lot. Ms. Bell said .. •as sure if lh ey look l::s:ic in
lhc police records lhcy will fmd lhat lha1 panicular atta bas been tailed m -,. many, many timce.
because of lhc parties la1e at night. so this poor gentleman is ieally going ID bedislurbcd li vin g~ She
said. as she said before. !hey have lived !here a long time aod lhcte is a 1cM ol uaffic, a 101 of noise . a iot of
musi c bei· .g played. a lot of people occupying that parlc and lhat particular an:a. She said she woo~d gu ess
tli.11 is · oe had 10 say ... lhal , like she said, she was just ve,y shod<cd. She 1101cd he mentioned SC Cl'o lhin g
about : •ir:01ion ... she sai d lhc onl y lhing she could lhink of, riglll off !be top of her head . is ma,bo! , lcucr
to the c.. •. uor. that wou.Jd probab ly reach as many people . She said she docs IIOl feel any retracti on. i"?:3.1Jy, 1s
in ordcr ... unl~ss. lik c they said , L11 cy bring some legal rcdrcs.c; 10 t11an. She w.d she docs not kno..,. •hat to
say , beca use ii is a shoc k. He sai d lhat 1hey have rights , well , she no1ed, ii ,c,cms 10 her thal ap par=.), they
have more rights tl1a11 we do at tlli s point . She said she docsn 'I know "bat ID sa,· abou t lha t. She sa;d she
always thought th.11 they had. as Americans. as ci tizens of Englewood. just as man~ rights as any or~ else.
es pe ci all y as lon g as tl1cy have lived in !heir nei ghborhood . She statal she J11S1 fc,15 vcri sad abow '.Clls
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(b) Carolyn Fullon. 4955 South Lipan Drive, Slated that most of the things that she did want
<ID say would have to l,e addralcd to him. iflhey an, going to have a meeting. •The onolllllll Ibo did do,
.a said. and she did :lo a little calculalion, Is that she <lacs 1101 believe that when the Federal government
,...S the American Diabllitlel Act that k -inllnded ftlr IUCh a dlln9 u lhiL II !hey pay a porRJn
•.00 • hoar to mona,e llus-. tlmeo JOd..;. for lho DDllh. shcatme up with about s,,760;,,
lllary ... lel alone lbod and the..,. of baying the homo. She said obe does 1101 Ulldentand where all that
aaacy comes from . To spend that much moncy ... taxpayer's moeey ... on one individual. Ille -•t
1111dctmttd ... just 10 place them in a neighborhood. She said the other thing that she doesn't quite
undetmnd whal he is t.viftg to say, ii lllal he say, the man wants to be alone and thez, he tum.s around and
~ tltot the c:ounodon late hia10 -of their liunily things. W>ich. she aid. sounds like be goes out
and lillemizes or wh.,teverwi•Olherpeople and y,c be wanll IO be alone. She said sbedoesn't
undcr5wld ti.. t:wo. lhey.,.,. to contndict each alhcir. Thlt Is al~ she said. exc,pt tlJc other things will
.... to be addlaled to him ill lbe ..-iltg.
(e) David Veluqo,cz. 1201 West Chenango, said that at this time II, really c1ocsn·1 ha,,. that
much to say, but fmm whal he hard from the man speaking here and fmm ..,hat be beard from bis
wife ... and his wife Is a YOf)I good woman ... she wnuld not lie ... Mr. Velasquez stated he is just disguaod.
that be is so c,onl\Jsod right tMM that he is just pissed off, that he can ·1 even think straight. He said that
when somebody comes up to la wire, when she is goingjust bonlerline to the yard. to say I gJoet you into
the neighborhood and that guy gel! kind of mean with her, he doesn't rapea that at all. Mr. Velasquez
no<ed that at llus ti111e he is 1101 l')ing ID say M1ything. because he is so mad that he is afJaid of what be
would say .
(d) Lori Vewquez. 1201 West Olcnango. said that fira of all she \\'llllled to say to Mr.
Mahr that when hiJ coan,elor came up to her ... lhal actually she was running and she wu coming home
ad her daughter's bicycle was pa,lled in the driveway, ao she went into lhe driveway to pick it up and be
waited out and he asl<ed irlhal wu her bike. She said she told bim yes, that it belonged to her daughter .
Ms. Veluquez said he told her, 11 lhal time. that he would appn,ciate it if she wouldn't let her kids a,me
into his yard, becau!e he said be has "OIIColtho<e uh, you know, one oftl\ose kind of kids ." She said she
jml SlllOd these, she didn't say much. Actually , she advised. when he first can:: out she said "oh. hi. are
you the new neighborl" that be did !IOI even say "yes. I am the new ncighbo,~ or ICI me welcome bun into
the new neighborhood . Ms. V~z staled she is piSiled olftoo, br..:ause he went and told Mr. Mcdter
something else . A11d. she noted. he told her that if her kids ,.,.re going to p·,ay in his yard to let him know.
WeU . she said. lhcrc is a erect right then: and she sl10Uldn ·1 have to let hir,t know when her kids are goi ng
to play in the crttk, the creek is 1101 his. She reiterated she shouldn 'I have to Id him know and yes her kids
do dri,,. in his dm'Cway and go around in the!r bikes and a,me bock arow,d, they do do thaL BuL she
stated. he told her 0111 yes, he cculd get violent with her kids and that is \'Cry worrisome to her. Because .
she said. he, <ids should 1101 foci like they are in danger, when they are just playing with their bikes or
doing sonte11ti .. J around her aoigbbomood . She swed it nialtes her very pissed off that be went and told
Mr. Mocker something tOlally clilferenL She emphasiud that she will a,nfront him and yes, she ,.;u talk to
him if Mr. Mocker brings him to the meeting and she will say exactly what he said. ll<cause. she ad,ised.
she bas nve children at her home, ranging from 15 IO 4 years old . Ms. Velasquez said yes it makes her mad
to know th8' her kids cannot fed safe. She said she has had to tell her kids not lo play over there and her
kids do not 1mdcrsland that , because for the past three years that they have lived tl,erc the1· ha\'e pla yed in
tbal yard anll they go around And yes. she said. she thinks that tl,cy do have open neighbors in her
neighborhood . because when she mov<d into that neighborhood Mrs. Belt and the Babcoc ks . and a lot or
other llf!i ghbors that arc hC'rc . rcccivOO them inlo lhc neighborhood and gave them a bi g pan ~ to "clcomc.
them in to the neighborhood. along with one of the other neighbors lhat had moved in . So . she comme nted ,
, es they arc an oy. 71 neighborhood. because her kids drive into tJ1c Babcocks , her kids han gone in10 the
Belt 's garage"""· Th ey play around and nobod y bas ever, ever told her not to let her kids play in their
yard .. ocver . On tho contrary . she said. they all agree and tl icy all live happy . until Mr . Mcckers guy came
in ;nd told her lhat yes he cou ld gel vio lent "itl1 her kids. And. she stated . as she sai d before . !hat does
ma~e her \'c ry, very '"'-·•rricd and very. very con cc mccl
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him on tiuyina ln,,IUCb •'aoocl aeipbarboc1d, bee■-ik......,ny values .... exa!nchl. He said 1/l jtisl saw
where hl1 propcny went up SI l ,000 liom WI,.__ ,......,, be ~j,.. 11 she sald, he lricd to Wl\'e to
their cowuclors ... hc didn 't C\'en i<Mw lll)1,ody liwd tlls lllllil the lqinnin1 of April. Just before they
talked to them, he s:,w one guy and lricd to wave. He llial lie doi:sn 't C\'en kMw when they moved in,
bc<:ausc his housc loob right down the SIRCt. down 0.-,0. thal he lives right on the coancr. Mr.
Walker advised he is like everybody else. he warus io Fl MIii them al their mcctin& and sec what they say
and th<n they will get back with Council and sec wllal _,. ray.
(I) Rick Gilli~ 4985 Soulh Lipan Dm-c, Ila.I that he is kind of swpriscd at the geotleman 's
commcnlS. lhat he too WIS cxpccWII to be informed lllllipt. He maintained that lhat WIS one of lhe most
evasive and dcfcnsi\'e commcnll bi tbaupt he bad 1-11 iD • loo& time . Mr. GiUit opined that he could
have done much more, ifbc had coa,e IO illl'orm. He ailS .. .!lill doesn't know what this gcnUeman 's
problem Is. He h:isn 't said whether ot ooc be Is a violail pcnoa. All he has heard is them attacking our
community . yet he has to understand thal is where tbcJ 1ioc, 0. he has children and his neighbors ha\'c
kids and he lhougbt Ibey had a right to be Wormed. &....S be appreciates that somebody in our
communiiy had the guts to inform tlacm thai !here -• iilmc. Mr. Gil lit said be thanks God that we still
ha\'e the amendment that says freedom of speech aad,.. cam say what we feel and we ha\'C frc<-doms to
write things. He said he lhought that the palCst cnar is dut th<:)•. as a company ... and Ibey are a company
whether they arc non-profit or prolit...did DOI ialorm -~ befote they brought this individual in .
It would have been a great asset to tbcm and to us to be udbnntd. He said he hopes this gentleman takes a
lesson about this to the next community that they Uy IO impel. that a little bit of infonnation sun: helps a
lot Mr. Gilli! staled that he just challenges lhcm and dlciir Alll"to rally undcrslalld where we come from
as .a community and wbcrc we come from as ocipbcn. dla..,..sun: we ar,: going to be dcfensh·c, because
we ha\'e a right to be . He pointed out that it is a lot ~ wbcn it is in your backyard. and it is in his
backyard, in his neighborhood. He said he hopes Mr. Meder' comes off not so dcfcnsi\'c . Mr . Gilli! sta led
~ to him. the letter Mr. Mcckcr WIOIC WIS slanda.-~ mcm. He really needed to regroup and reth ink
what he said. because he thought probabl y 90¾ of them nm lll>k,fT rigbt away. just hearing how he came
across . He said tllal he hopes the next time they appn,ad> "'· as a commwuty. that they ap proach us "i 1h
informatio n. nol defens iveness .
(g) Jan Kcrzic. 4790 South Lipan. said Iha~ i.s ooe tlung we ha\'t missed here and 1J,a1 is
tha1 this is an infrin gement oa your rights as City Cow,ciJ..a our aqnsenwi\'es of the Cit). Sh e pointed
out that they didn't tet Council know whal happened. &be, didll·1 come to Council and let lhem know what
was go ing on in U1c ne igh borhood and ,Jae lhought ~ ba,c thal right
8. Communlc1tion1, Procl1m1tion1 and Appeialamb
(a) A leucr from Mike Dil a1ush in diCIIJDg iw. rcsignauon from the Clean . Gn:<n and Proud
Commission was co nsidered .
COUNCIL MEMBER NABHOLZ MOVED, AND IT W _ ,ECONDED, TO ACCEPT WJTII
REGRET THE RESIGNATION OF MIKE DILATtJSB FROM THE CLEAN, GREES AND
PR f'IU D COM MISSION.
Ayes : Counci l Members Saciiaol z. Garrett, Brndsha\,, Habeni ch t.
Wa ggo nc,. Clapp. Burms
Nays : None
Molion carried .
(b) A proclamation declaring tl 1c wed oi 11.br! 17 through 23, 1998 as Emergency Medi cal
Services Weck was considered .
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COUNCIL MIMBIR HABENICHT MOVID, AND IT WASlECONDED, Tp Pl!OCLAIM THE
WIIK o, MAY 11 THROUGH 23, j99t 'A5 EMERGENCT' MEDICAL S!RVItts WEEK.
Ayes: O,Uncll Meriibtfs Nabholz, Oanett. J!radshaw, Haben(l:hf," ,
Wauoncr, Clapp, Bums
Nays: None "
Motion c:amcd.
Mayor Bums presented the proclamation to Safety Services EMS Coordlnalor Jim Ulrich. Mr. Ulrich
commented that probably one of the most under n:cognlzed aspec15 of public service is the EMS
community . He no«cd you don 't sec them on TV very much liccause by the time U1e TV crew gets thtrc.
the ambulances have ahoady left. We arc pr<Uy much unrec.gnlzed, he noted . The only people who reall y
know about us, he said, arc the people who need us or who iiave used us in the past This week. the 17°'
thrnup the 23'" is Nalionaf Recognition Weck and they arc supposed to be promoting EMS awareness.
Mr. Ulrich suggested that when you sec I poramedlc, an EM!', a llmighlcr or police officer. or anybody
that ,..u involved with emergency medicine, you might just want to lhank them on that porticufar week .
He commented if they find time to go out to Hudson Gardens on the 17° Uu11 would be nice too . Mr.
Ulrich thanked Council for their support and noled they arc just really happy th.it they have ber.n allowed to
proYide one of the stale of the art services in the City or the Stale or the counlry . Counc il offered their
tlwlks.
Council Member Bradshaw said she needed to say something on behalf of that She stated th:11 if It wasn't
for Mr. Ulrich and his cmo, one orhcr neighbors would not be here. Ms. Bradshaw advised that they ha\'C
sa,'Cd that man twice in the last two years and she thanked them.
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Mayor Bums commented that he had occasion to be down 81 the fin: station on Acoma Saturday and he MS
talking to one or the firefighters and had a lour or the place and so forth . fl ls very obvious. he said. bow •
pmud they arc of th:11 service and n:marl<ed about how many people they have saved recently in th:lt
program and what a high stale of readiness they arc In ,.;th th:11 program. Mayor Bums staled it i, really
n:mariiablc how well they do .
9. Public Hearing
(a) COUNCll. MEMBER BRADSHAW MOVED, AND IT WAS SECOND El', TO
OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO GATHER CITIZEN INPUT ON A PROPOSED Bill FOR
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING INDUSTRIAL ZONE DISTRICTS.
Ayes : Council Members Nabhol z, Garrell Bmdslc,w , Habeni cht .
Waggoner, Clapp, Bums
Nays : None
Mo,jon carried and U1c Public Hearing ope .1e:!.
All testimony was given under oath.
Neighborhood and Environment Technician Langon staled Iha! before Council loni ght is Coun cil Bill No.
18. the proposed amendments lo the 1-1 Lighl Industrial and 1-2 General Industrial Zone Distriru or the
Co mprehonsivc Zoning Ordinance . She submined Proof of Publication of Notice of Public Hearing. 1'-bicb
""' pubhshed in the Englewood Herald April 10. 1998. TI1e proposed am rndmcnts. she advised , n:suh
from a request of City Council lo review lwo speci fi c land uses and those uses arc c.'\J' crushing opcra uons
and hal.ardous w~c storage and processing opcra1ion s. TI1 c pwposc of 1J1c proposed arncndmcnlS is to
mitigate polcnl ia l imp.1c1s of these lwo l1 c:.Ny industriaJ uses on adjacc nl re sidential neighborhoods . She
stated th.a.I tJ1c amendments arc zone di r1rict regulations Lhat address and affect 1-1 and 1-2 Zone Oismcts
cily "idc. They an: short term relief, a, specific lo '"'Oland uses and not mean! 10 ad dress all of Ill e
industriaJ zo ne distri ct rcgulntions or all lhc re visi ons th a1 arc ncccssa 1 / for !h ose distri c1s. The rc\isions. •
she not ed. arc also srnnd al one revisio ns which can be mco rpor.ucd into a more comprc hcns1vc revi sion of
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lhcindnslrial mnc dlsulcls whidtiir,.......'lbr'lawthis:,ear. M5.'Lail~ e,cplalned lhlt lhat revision
P'°"'"" has already beglm _. _ .........,.dlicaioas witli llime iMustrla: land uim and the
pwpooo i.::, briog the~ • ., dale, both tccbnicaUy tnd from the aspect or communlty q,,aJity of
life . She rdcmd Couaeil to Ille ~ Communication on page 2, the malrix, and said she W<luld go over
the moln --of the dhllnmoe. tlinior111c tint -. aalOIIIObilc sbralding! 1h11 use Is cum:ntJy prohibited
In 1-1 aad 1•2, as auto ...... _....., operations aad it has been prohibilcd 'lince 1978. The inlcnl
back in 1979, was aho the -*1liiil. lO midg,.te impacls to adjacent ne ighbodloods. In the proposed
arnc:ndmcnt lhosc uses would .....,pdlil,ited mes. The only chaap, to the amendment is an •omobilc
shredding definition and thal inlalol..., aushing. baling, compacting or similar processes, which r<ducc
vehicles or pal1S lo a fom: ~.,...., proceaing. Ms. Lant!•• advised that thcno is one existing or
known auto crusher In the 1·2 -•iii will mnatn the _....nronn1ng use. as it has boon since I 978 .
The second section is automobile -,king or diSDWllling, currcnUy ii Is a conditional use in 1-1 and
pennia,d ii, 1-2. Thal she staled. ..id ramin the same under the proposed amendment She said she
wanted to explain thal She sai!tia-wrtddng ordisalllnlling is a less interuic :lirmantllng, actually
dismantling or vehicles into their.......,... pans for sale or possible r,,cycling . The change here in the
amaulmcnl is an expansion and doliilicala ol the dc:fmilion lo include the term auto wrccldng
dismantling as oarting, salvagiag, ~ or similar processes. It docs nol she pointed oul include auto
shredding, aushing, baling, as m tllit'lint area. Thae -.Id be no change to cxistini operations in either
the 1-1 011-2, under the a .. o ........ ..-dlmanlling..cilon. Thcthinl ar.:a •shamdouswastc processing
and storage. Sbc stated they line 1111111d a clefinitioc ti1r bodt hmlrdous waste :,_o1 imanloas WIS1e
oper.ltions. She explained dlalcm,-umdomwasa,, wtieteft's the principle uoc orthe
bmincssco ... it docs not all'cct ..-IIIM·tai,pen to -1112:ardous materials as pan or their process .
Because. she noted , most any~ Im IDfflC IJpC of lmudous material . So it is only those businesses
that the principal operation is Siar.IF or pn,ccssing o( haDnlous waste . Cum:ndy . she staltd, hazm-dous
waste processing and st orage is pcanittcd in 1-1 and 1-2 and the proposed amendments "'>uld make d1osc
uses conditional use:i In both zooe--.,. to lhc proximity of ~idcnts and lhe potential for hcallh or
safety impacrs to U1osc residents. E1aitiDg uses will be able to remain as conditional uses with proof of
compliance . The other changes n lllic ordinance arc in defi ni ti on changes, ·, she said , they have crca1ed
new definitions for auto shredding,. 'iba:z,,.-.,dous waste and hazardous waste operation and then they ha,·c
revised or clarified the auto Wff:dr:iitc and dinarltlhlg definition. She staled they have also added, 10 the
prohibited use, biological waste pmc,,,sing. Thal could possibly fall W\dcr the umbrella of !..17Jlldous
waste, but they fell that it was """'"'""'Y to actually sr.11e that as biological waste . And then, she said. >here
arc a number or reference tenninolo!:!' cbonges lo just Uy and bring the ordinance into uniformity with
other ordimnccs , where in some c:aas iD previous ordinances we ha\'c w:cd: the lcnn section or ordinance .
now they arc all trying to be the....,. wording. Basically, she said. those arc •II of the arncrdmcnlS and as
d1ey can sec they arc fa irly stnigl\t ferwlnl. they have minor or no slfccr on existing l:usinesscs and they
do start the process of the revision af'lhc 1-1 and the 1-2. She no<ed that mo,i ng these amcndmcnlS forward
would meet Council's rcqucsred tirmcliamc. She asked if Council had nny que,,tions .
Council Member Bradshaw asked. .,. automobile 'MtCking, if 1-2 is the more intense district. Ms. Langon
said that is right . And , Mt. BrndsfuL.,., noted. we have a ntunbcr of\\TCCking yards up in northwest
Englewood . Ms . Langon said that 1Snght. and she tho"ght thct< "ere L'ircc licensed in 1-1 and six licensed
in 1-2 . Ms. Bradshaw commenced tfnat lhcrc arc quite a few and she was go in g 10 say she 1houg.lu it \\a5
nine or ten . Anywa y. she asltcd. ... :nnd commented that she doesn't know that dus has nnything 10 do \\i th
this one, bu l in the future is there a.dli!l'C'Cfll kind of zonin g th.11 we co uld h.1 \'C fo r auto "TCCkin g or for th.11
type of occu pation. Ms . Langon OlSCd l.h.ll she ll unks that is goi ng to l,c an area that is look.::d at quite
closel y, because 1hcre :\re auto wrcclb ng y ,rds and then Lhcrc arc auto salvage and tl1cn there is rc storali on
yards or small co mpanies tll3t do rcmoratic. n work . tha t do not follon· .a ny or th ese regul ati ons . She opined
thal what we need 10 do is look at aJ.D of these ca 1egorics of businesses a nd bas ically sec if we c.,n le\ cl the
pla yi ng field .
Co uncil . 4cmbcr Waggoner asked h~• this affects a st.ation d\11 mighl ha ve a ,i.·as tc oil stora ge drum 1ype
dung underneath the gro und. "hen: IIIIC)' drain the oil and 11-.cn pump ii out when it gets full . He said he
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would I""" 1h11 is I baz■nlous llllleri■J . Righi. Mo, ~Pl tpid, but 1h11 is• lkir ~ ape,atioa.
as a SIOIIIJ olthal wur.c . So, Mr. Wauoncr aid, Ille is lllki1'&!UJC!Ul the pw:ipal .,..aioa. Ms.
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Mayor&msukcd ifth■li1bandlccl11Ddcrthc Wam W11UTratmcn1Pl11ulld l.Jliljna,,qulatioas. Ms.
LIJlp said that ii riaht and 1h11 ii IIIOlhcr Ila '!bore WC -S to ,ipdatc ia die ..,._,., Bccauac, S~O
■dYiacd, riglll now the ordialnce c■Jla for Wldcrpolllldia& al IIOraF tankl. but EPA.._ 1101 "'llll that. So
tla■I is a muc~ outdalcd sc,;uon al lhc ordinano: that, nccdi µ, be ~
Mayor BIU'lll ask<d if, in the put, automobile wm:king and lhal sort of ICIMI)' 1-llc,ca rquialcd wider
gene ral nuisaaccs ordinances . He aoted that maybe City AIIDmcy Broum■a cooald _..,. tbal. Mt.
BrolZn>III Aaltd it was more in zoning ordinances .
Council Member Habenicht said thi.1docsn 't~any iuucs oCbulTc:n bclwcai21aS.oranything like
that. She asked if thal was true. Ms.. Langon advised lhat oo it docs not. that they Cdt llial was a much
larger topic and, to Call within C0111cil 's timcCramc. ii was not iomelhing lhal could be addressed.
Council Member Habenicht commented lhal lhc other thing she ooticed was "'ilh bialcgjcal ,.,....
proccwng that wc arc exempting, or it doesn't COWII. sewage plantJ or an)'l"ing like Iba. Like our sewage
disposal plant. She askcd if that is considered biological wastc processing_ ~ ita1a1 lhal
biological waslc is geacrally medical waste. Oh. Ms. Habenicht said, you II\. ~ ..,, medical waste.
She askcd if !here was a definition in !here and where ii was. Ms. Langoa Slid Iba IIO thcy did not. include
that as a cldinition. Mayor Bums asked if tl,cy plan to. Ms. Langon said ii is problbly 1D1J1ethui& that the)·
need to address ia lhe future .
Mayor Bums stated that if they an: going 10 scpa,ate ii from hazardous waa.c Ibey slioald probably define
it.
Council Member Habenicht agreed and noted that lhc first lhing that crossed bet mind• she was looking
a1 it this time .. ,and she didn't really notice ii bc!ore .. .is pona potties and things likic tbai.and that is human
biological "aste. isn 'I it? Ms. J..an&on rK tcd they were originally looking al mo:dial 'IQSIC basically.
Mayor Burns s,.id that he understood that she waa saying lhcy an: going 10 a'Oh·e imo me buffer issue in
lhc futun:. Ms. Langon explained lhal that is one area that lhcy arc going to ba>-c to loot al. Ag.un. she
nolcd , the real concern is the 1aDd or la.""..!< of land and where can we come up with me buffer. so that is oac
mclhod . There will be a 101 of things to look at on lha1 ... i11 a 10 foot buffer rcall) a,oagh to k<cp a
hazardous ".stc away or dues ii have 10 be a 50 fool buffc· In most CISCS, 511c ~ ou~ lhc land is not
Shere, so they need to look at a number of methods.
Or, Council Me:nbcr Bmdshaw commented, maybe grandfathering thngs io tllat ar. already ill existence
and lhen when !hey change hands lhcn that is no looger a pcnnill«I use. Thal. she saJd. is ano!hcr way 10
deal wilh ii. M~ Lango11 agreed.
Council Member tfabcnicht as..(cd if this addrcs.scs , in any way, th,: issues of noise ad the impacts of
noise . Ms . Langon ad\oilMI that any of the uses lilal 31c dthcr condiLional or ~onrung ha\'C noise
abatement aileria that they ha"e 10 folh .. w.
And light abalc:mcnt as w~II. Council Member H:1bcuich1 asked . Ms. Langen sud )CS..
Counci l had no fun.l ier questions or com1u;nts.
Mayor Burns nolcd Ui.11 no Qnc signed up 10 \i~ at tha public h\3ring. but be 35kc:d If M~one \.lo'Qntcd 10
come forward and address C:owicil.
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Caty 5--or ADZ Tn,ck Pans, a salvage yard or wrecking yard in Englewood. staled that tho
IUIO lffldoiltc liczm< lhat the Cily of Englewood hu iaucd 10 wrcclting yards in Englewood is probabl y
the -~ '.1 Dllle: At dis pol,. Mr. SU.USS po:md, to take a drink of walar.J
Council ......... Bradshaw ukcd Mr. 5-were ABZ Truck Parts was localed. Mr. S1rauss advilod k is
111 -wteckia& yard, Iha! ICIUllly he only docs lrucks, al 1922 Wcsl Warren Avenue .
Mr. SU-aid ·"' -.Id <1111 over. He llalal lhat lhc 11111D wrcc:kin1 license lha1 the Ci1y of Englewood
hu Ui'llld ID -.m,cking yards is lhc mo.,1 rcslrictive onlinMCC the Cily iw. He explained !hat what Ibey
would likto sec from lhc Cily is a fair compliance from other busincascs lhal do nol ha\'e wrecking
Ucema. t.-stote and sell non-running aulOCIIObilcs or part,. Mr . Slrauss staled lhal lhe Cil)' is in lhe
rccydillc bll5incss. like ii or nae. He conuncn1ed lhal lhc Cil)' has 01 dinanccs in zoning dealing wilh non •
liccosal. IIIOll nmaing alllomobiles, appliances and mi...Uancous Ir ISi, We have 10 keep in mind, he S:1id.
Iha! pct pie Ila,.., IO dispose oflhcsc aulOl'llOhilcs and melal produclS wilh some recycling outlet Mr.
Str.nm ai:loilod 1111111 • loog time~ in lhc Cil)' ol Englewood he, and other l)COl)lc in lhc
wredi:iag ..._, ~ lpflftlCialc bciJlc pul in the loop wilh lhc new zoning and ordinance changes lhal
the Cily plans. He staled lhat aulo wr<dtiog recycling serves 1 vilal role in preserving narural resources
111d ......_ ....i sca,cc landfill ...., .. FortOJCltllPlc, he uid, lhc industry recycles over 10 million
mctor ._._ ia * UDilcd Slala, lhcrd,y saving III Ollimalcd 1.5 million bamls of oil lha1 -.Id
otbcnriJe k taal ill !he manufactW'C of rcplaccrncnt puu. Additional energy and rcsou· .:es is n:alizcd by
recycliag llllaiJd:lblc am: parU IO lhc au1r,mobilc parts indust,y and lhe aulomobilc wrecking industry also
suppliD ii ·--1ely '7%olall fcm,us -.I sc11pl0 tbesaap processing industry . Mr. Slrauss said he
would lillC ID...., ii clear IO lhc City Council lhal lhc wncking yards in lhe Ci 1y of Englewood do not
lm-c a pn,licm willl rc:zoaiaa or diolnaa in lhc ordinaaoo, u lon1 as lhey can have some input ilnv , bat "
beias,. '"'-11. He DOied !hey have always wori<ed wilh the Cil)' for many years, most of lhcm have
bccM iallalliaca foro, .r 20ymn. He aaid lhcy don'I CXpocl lo get !heir way or be intolerant to whal lhc
City ....W like u, change. He DOied Ibey aln:idy have a lot of EPA rules and olher regulations from lhc
Fcdonl .,.,.,._ Iba! he docso 'I lhink the Cily even nccd5 lo wony about Believe me, he said, lhci· arc very......,......., down from lhc Fcdaal government and everybody he knows of in U1c City of
Ell~,_. 1111 a wrecking lice DIC alnady has applied for and received all or !heir EPA pcnnilS . He
asked if Camx:il bad any quc,:,io ns. There'"''" none . Mr. Smluss staled he bad some handouts from lhc
National Re..")·clcrs 1h.11 he wu going to lea,,: for Council if lhcy would like 10 look at U1cm.
Mayor Burm. asked if ill1yonc else wanted IO come fo1 ·ard to speak on LIUs matter. 11,erc was no one clsz:
pl'CSCIII ta :addrcs, th , issue .
COUl'ICll. MEMBER BRADSHAW MOVED, Ai'<D !TWAS SECONDE!l . TO f'LOSE mE
PUBLIC BEARING.
Ayes: Council Members Nabholz, Garrctl Bradslmv, Habenicht,
Waggoner, Clapp, Bwns
Nai•s: None
Motion amcd and th< Putlic Heari ng closed.
{:11 ) Approval of Ordin.,nccs on First Reading
COUNCII. MEM8£R CLAPP REMOVED 10 (a) (Ii) and iii) FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
COU NCll.MEMBER BRADSHAW MOVED, AND !TWAS SECONDED, TO APPROVE
CONSC."IT AGENDA ITEM 10 (a) (i) ON FIRST READING .
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(i) COUNCIL BILL NO. 22, INIRODUCED IIY COUNCIL MEMBEi-
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A BILL FOR Nl ORDINANCE ADOPnNG THE "CITY OP~ FTREFIGffl'l:!RS
PENSION PLM1 (AS RESTATED JANUARY I, 1996)" BY TilE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD.
COLORADO.
Volt raulta:
Ayes : Council Mtmllcrs Nallholz. Gamtt. -w. Habcnidll.
Waggoner, Clapp. Bums
Nays: None
Motion carried .
Mayor Bums advised thal 10 (a) (ii) is a recommendation f,-die [)qsm,cnt orFinanc:ial Services to
adopl a bill for an ordinance implementing diangcs to supplemealll beudi11 for Englewood's Firtllghlcrs.
Dil<Cloroffinandal Services Grygltwlcz staled thal be il'IIID a manbor of the Old Hire Po11a: and F~
Pension Boards. He ldviscd Iha! Agenda IICllll 10 (1) (Ii) 111111 (iii) minor ad! Ol.her so lheJ can div.om
them al I.ho same Umo.
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Council Member Oapp noled tbal ii shows an inaaa, loere ad she ,..jail woadering if there is 811)'
savings by doing ii lhis ny. Dilector Grygl,wicz said lie lhiau 11,ae ii.a poltlllial, subslaalial savings in
lhc lllcl that under CUtrtlll ordinanoe Uicre is !IC1Ually DO ..,..;lie SU.-• ID who gets this benefit So.
either one of tho raislon boards could award a full 20% IO 111 00C11J111i-1 duability. So it could 3Ctllally •
double thc oost 11, the City. So. he said, he thinks with this ordinance..,,.., wiU be subllanlw cost savings
10 the Cily. Bui, he ootcd. he also thinks I.hen, an, subotantial benefilH•6e pol:~ and firclightcrs because
if they come lo the newly fonncd board they will knowwhal thcirbClldil wiU be. Cum:nlly !hey arc 1101
quite sun:. because, be nJtcd, it is somewhal subjective and the boards --at ii either way, they can
eilhcr •-d ii or nOI, ii is nOI black or while . Mr. Gryglcwicz mtaatd h t he thinks thcro an: substantial
~,vings and that ii is a benclil to our Safely Scnices penl)IVld .
COUNCIL MEMBER WAGGONER MO,·"<.:D, AND IT WAS SECOl1iDED, TO APPROVI,
CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 10 (a) (U) ud (Iii) ON Fll'ST READ~
(ii) COUNCIL BILL NO 24 , INTRODUCED S Y COUNCIL MEMilER
WAG<.ONF.R
A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 3, CHAPTER 11.. SECTION 1. SUBSECTION 2 OF
THE ENGLEWOOD MUNICIPAL CODE 1985 BY REPEALING TTn.E 3. CHAP1cR ,. SECTION 1.
SUBSECTION 2, AND ENACTING A NEW TITI.E 3. CHAPTER 8, SECTION I. SUBSECTIO N 2.
ENTITT.ED SUPPL EMENT AL DISABILITY BENEFITS WHJCH PEJRT AINS TO DISABILITY
BENEFITS FOR FIREFIGIITERS .
(iii) COUNCIL BILL NO. 2J. INTROD UCED BY COl.i NCIL ME MBER
WAGGONER
A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 3. CHAPTER 7 SECTION 2, OF TilE
ENGLEWOOD MUNICIPAL CODE 1985 BY REPEALING TITLE ,. C HAPTER 7. SECTION 2. AND
ENACTING A NEW TITLE 3, CHAPTER 7, SECTION 2. ENITIU3!> SUPPLEMENT AL DISABILITY
BENEFITS WHICH PERTAI NS TO DISABILITY BENEFITS FOR !10LICE OFFICERS . •
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Ayes : Council Mcmbcn Nabholz, GarrctL Bradshllw. HabcnichL
W1111oocr, Clapp, Bums
N1ys : None
Madon carried .
(b) Approval of Ordinances on Second Reading
COUNCILMIM8U WAGGONER MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO APPROVE
CONSENT AGENllA ITEMS 10 (b) (I), (II) aad (Ill) ON SECOND llADING.
(i) ORDINANCE NO . 28, SERIES OF 199& (COUNCIL BILL NO . IO,
JNTRODUCliD BY COUNCIL MEMBER WAGGONER)
AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING A PIPELINE CROSSING AGREEMENT ENTITI.ED "PIPELINE
CROSSING AGREEMENT -MILE POST : 6.W AT YALE A VENUE Wfnl TIIE UNION PACIFIC
RAILROAD COMPANY .
(ii) ORDINANCE NO. 29, SERIES OF 1998 (COUNCIL BILL NO . 21 ,
llmlODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WAGGONER)
AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING A PIPELINE CROSSING AGREEMENT ENTITI.ED "PIPELINE
CROSSING AGREEMENT-MILE POST: 7.76" AT KENYON A VENUE Wl1ll 1llE UNION PACIFIC
RAILROAD COMPANY .
(iii) ORDINANCE NO . JO, SERIES OF I 998 (COUNCIL BILL NO . 20,
INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WAGGONER)
AN ORDINANCE APPROVING SUPPLEMENT NO . 137 TO THE SOUTHGATE SANITATION
DISTRICT CONNECTOR 'S AGREEMENT FOR 1llE INCLUSION OF LAND WITHIN THE
DISTRICT BOUNDARIES .
Vote raulu:
Ayes : Council Members Nabh ol,. Garrell Bradshaw. Habe ni cht.
Waggoner, Clapp. Bums
Nays : None
Motion carried.
(c) Rcsoluliom and Molions
COUNCIL Ill EMBER NABHOLZ REMOVED JO (c) (i) FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
COUNClL MEMBER BRADSHAW MOVED, AND !TWAS SECONDED, TO APPROVE
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS JO (c) (ii), (iiQ and (iv).
(ii) CONTRA CT WITH TEAGUE EQUIPMENT CO MP ANY IN THE AMOU NT
OF S94.5 46.00, FOR TIIE PUR CHA SE OF TWO BUCKET TR UCKS
(iii ) CONTRACT WITH TRANS WEST TRUCKS, INC IN ll{E A.~!OUNT OF
S40 ,l 14 .00 FOR TilE PURCHASE OF A DUMP TRUC K.
(iv) CONTRACT WITH TRA NS WE ST TRU CKS. INC IN THE AMOUNT OF
S40.l 14 .00 FOR TilE PURCHASE OF A DUMP TRUCK .
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Motion carried .
Ayes: Council ....... Nlllholz. Glrrffl, Brwlshaw , Habenlchl,
w...,...., Clopp, Bums
Nays · None
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(i) Council Member Nabholz aid she just had a couple or questions, to clear things
in her mind. :lhe noted that on Amendmcnb l and J in 1h11 ii sllalo\:d the employee vote -. by a large
majority, agains1. Mr. Gryglewfcz said ~-She med if theY ..., pu1lng this with all the Alllc:ndrnents as
they arc. Director Gl)'glewicz explained~ an: minoring the ,'Ole.
COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW !\fOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO APPROVE
CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 10 (c) (i).
RESOLUTTON NO. 53 , SERIES OF 1991
A RESOLUTTON IN WHICH ll!E CITY COUNCIL OF TiiE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD, COLORADO
HEREBY CASTS ITS EMPLOYER•s VOTE FAVOR OF F.P.P.A. 'S PROPOSED AMENDMElfl'S
NO . I, NO. 4 AND NO. 5, AND AGAINST FP .P.A.'S PROPOSED AMENDMENTS NO. 2 AND NO. 3.
Voce raaltJ:
Ayes:
Nays:
Motion carried.
11. Reicular Apda
Council Member1 Nabholz. Gam:I~ Bradshaw, Habenlc~
Waggom,. Clapp. Bwns
None
(a) Approval ofOrdiuancxs 011 Finl Reading
There ""e no additional items submitted r.,.. apprm-.J on first reading. (See Agenda Item JO• Consent
Agenda.)
(b) Approval of Ordinances oc Sea>nd Reading
(i) Mayor Bums asked if Council had aJJ~• questions or commcnls regarding this
Agenda Item . There were none .
COUNCIL BILL NO . 13 , INlllODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HABENICHT
A BILL FOR A.N ORDINAJ-1 .::~ AfAEh'DING TITLE 16, BY REPEALING TITLE 16. CH <\PTER 4,
SECTION 18, ENTITl..ffi LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE : ENAC11NG A NEW TITLE 16. CHAPTER 5.
SECTION 26, ENTrn ~D LAND SCAPING STANDARDS: AND AMENDING TmE 16, CHAPTER 8,
SECTION I, BY Tlfr: ADDITIO N OF SEVERAL DEFINITIONS . OF TiiE ENGLEWOOD
MUNICIPAL CODE 1985.
COUNCIL MEMBER NABHOLZ MOV£D TO APPROVE COUNCIL BILL NO. JJ.
COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW :110\'l:D, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO AMEND COUNCIL
BILL NO. 13, TIIE LANDSCAPING STAJ'1DARDS ORDINANCE BY MAKING THE
.-OLLOWING CHANGES :
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I. "-ad 16-5-26-D (1) (e). Lancbcapod Area ""'ulretMIIII lo rud:
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POD dlllrlct land1ea11l11 n•qulfflH811 olld be delermlned oe I eae-lly-<e-NIia. COlllldt .....
111.U be pva lo tbe type al devdop111et1t •• ANP ADJACENT USES. POD ludlcape req,,1,-
alaall be plded by ,..1,■■MII •••H•III• fer 11■11 ■• •111111,■■■tt Ill elllllN1r-......... THE
DISTRICT'S PREDOMINANT DEVELOPMENT USE AND BY RIQUIREMENTS
ISTABLtSR!D FOR SIMILAR Dl:Vl!LOPMENTS IN SIMILAR 7.0NI: DISTRICTS.
l. Amend 16-5-26-D (I) (I). La■d,capod Area Requlreme ■IJ •llb Ille addltioa al a new
•i.ctloa to read:
WATER, WASTEWATER •l'REATMENT AND OTHER SIMILAR LARGE-SCALE PUBLIC
FACILtTIES; WHERE COMPLIANCE TO DISTRICT ZONE REQUIREMENTS MAY NOT BE
FEASIBLE OR PRACTICAL , AN ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE PLAN MAY DE
SUBMITTED.
J . Amend 16-5-26 F (S ). General R<:quirements 10 read :
All la■d1t.-ped OFF-STREET PARKING areu alljwnl II ,ehie•l•r are u shall be prota:ted rrum
..WC.~r lnllllc by coacrek, turbl,•1 or otber dnice1 acceptable to the C-tty whldi prohillit >UicuJar
...-to ud acroubmcnt ■poll these ueu.
,. Amend 16-5-26 L (6). Plaatlnc Criteria lo resd:
Shr■~• and other pl11t materials with tboms, 1pinu, ..,.d pods nr la,ie rrullJ shaN not be peraltlal
witlltb; fell feet (10') or 1ldew1l1u ...... ., .... , .. r1 ... APl!U.
Vote results on amendments:
Ayes :
Nays :
Motio n carried.
Counci l Member, Nobh olz. Gamt~ Bradshaw, Haben ic ht .
Woggoncr. Clapp, Bums
None
Mayor Bums no1cd thi s is 1hc cquiv:ilen t of the first rea ding. because of substan tia l amcndmcnlS . Cit)
Anomcy Brotzman agreed and explained ii will come ba ck 10 Council .
MAYOR BURNS MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO APPROVE COUNCIL BILL NO. IJ
AS AMENDED.
Ayes : Council Member, Nabhok Gam:tl Bradshaw, Haben ic ht.
Waggoner, CL1 pp, Bum s
Nays : Non e
Molfo n carried.
(c) Rcso luli ons and Moti ons
There we re no :i ddi tio nal re so luti ons or mo lions su bm i11 cd fo r approva l. (Sec Agenda Item 10 • Consent
Agenda.)
12. General Di.K:uss ion
(a) May o(s Choice
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(i) .... lluml.alll,llc bu~ I\IC,~far;a\lc c!Jani.c,at the El 1~uan
buildillp on Broadway .... opillcd Iha! it by fat the betl WC have had . Council agjccd. 'Mayor 'Burns
noced W ii rally • ....., c:llao&• and he~ like to ICC an awllll IOI mo~ or ~l,O,Y,I lljCR.
COUIICII MaDl>er NIIIW&...,. 111N lhcy pailllCd Wqocr'1 Swidly.
Council Member Hablaiidll.-1 ~ ~ ii pllt of the EDD.l f~ program. Council advised her that it
is .
(ii) Mayor Burns reminded everyone that next Monday night is their bi,&,POP·Up
meeting on Cindc:rclla Gey. If< noled they ha>-c appreciated Gary Scars ' updates on that as Ibey have gone
along and lbat they""' i.ikiaa bwaRI lo ii. If< said be wu rcaUy ,bopiag u.,y 1"11 have ,omclhin8 Ibey
can get dlcir leelll iD m-alad on thal proj<a.
(b) Cowx:ill Mcml>c(s Choice
(i) Council Member Nab holz:
I. She Slated sllclias 5DIIIC l1iank you 's tonighL Fir>I or all, she said. she wantcc 10 tliank Wayne
Oakley . She noted Ibey Iliad a dillicull time getting a couch picked up1 ii was 111'1 a ;:qdc cnforccmcni issue.
h was not a police issue :and this business was really having a hard time . Ms . Nabhilz said she called ilfr.
Oakley and it was no1 • ;,roblcm. he had it picked up . She said she woold like 10 thank I.any Medina for a
quick follow-up on somoe code violations and Mary Rran-Ozbum for having the lo!S cleaned up by the
dq,ol Md Jerrell Black. Ml. Nabbolz Slated 1h11 Mr. Black bas worked witl, her since she was elected
aboul a year ago and Doo,n,cr Council Member Bill Himmdn>ann, She advised that she r=h'Cd a loner •
from Mr. Himmelmann :and DOied Ibey had !ricd lo gel lollery money for their trail that COMCCIS 10 our trail
down here on the PLittc. She read the lcttcr :-0car Ann. -V-1,. n .. , ........ ..:css ful. as is C\idcnt in tl1r 1rticlc
enclosed . Great a.-Colorlldo awarded S-18,000 for completion or the West Har.,.ard Gulch ·: rail.
Thanks so much for you.-lldp 1'itlt tlte application." So, she pointed out, coopcrati\'e efforts do pay arr. II
1ook them a year 10 wadi. l>l<:lr. and fort!~ but she applauded Mr. Black . She said she wo uld also like 10
thank Leigh Ann Hoffhimts for an i.nvi&.1tion to tJ,c Metro Mayor's Banquet at which. she was very proud
10 say. three of our kid! !from Engl01'ood wen: honored .
2. She advised lhllll she ancnded the DR COG Commission witlt lhc Aging. One of tltc tltings !hey
arc looking at right DOW u the lack of money for Meals on Wheels . She advised !hey arc possibly look;nR
at Lone,y money. SIie.,. sbc met an interesting officer there that work$ only wilh lhe seniors and works
righl out or the senior OOll1Cr. Ms. Nabholz Slated she ""' n:ally impressed "ilh lhis guy, he is a big guy
and all lhc seniors know bun.
3. She noted she also ru:cived an applicarion for a paint-a-then for a seni or in our area. which she
ju:,-, received on the 8111 lf the} need their house pain1cd and they arc una ble or h,wc no fanuly members,
SC\'cral of the employco from First Federal Sa,i ngs "i ll do 1ha1.
-' She mrcd she ""1.11 be a11cnding t.hc FourtJ1 Annua.1 lntcrgcncration aJ Co nferen ce at Au raria
cam pus on l\tly l 9c!a. Cl 11.5 put on through DRCOG and the Comm.ission on the Aging.
(i1) Council Member Garrell:
I. He asked ... tum 1s going in where Burger King was. Council Member Nab holz advised it will be
another Burger Kin g. !m response to Mayor Bums . Council Member Garrett advised it \\35 al Chenan go
and Sou th Broadway .und II is go ne . •
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2. He ulied iflhere luny s,onl on the bulldlag when Melady ..... ..., .. be. downlowa. He
sald he wondered if !hen, WIS aoy won! on some leasing ICllvity . City MamprSan advited lbay will
follow up on thaL
3. ffe!llaled he hid I personal obleM!lon, 11111 dlo-lbay had ■--•--qn, forbirn,
WIS a di,appolnmienL Council Member Gam:11 lldriaed 11111 lilt came la ...... Clllp0Cali0111 b what
he WU lltinking that fbrum WIS to be, which WIS ... ~an, -bricC ..... ._ .. differenl dqlalmeDIS
and theit lhe Council tort a( saying well we 111y want io Nlll1ocalc tlliap....,. ilUo the nc,ct yoar's
budget, because ii is ,on a( a budget goals IIICICbllg ~ Mr. Garrm aid. lliis ii I pcnnnal
,mp"'51ion. .. but !hey pttsenred t<Hlo lisu and 11a1a n,po,1L He Slated tlml ...._._ dlinks of goals. be
thinb. these are lhc dm,e tbings I wanl IO focus on next :i--or bow,.,..•• ..... a little bit
dllfe-iy, ,o Council ooald -that and !hey could make boodget d<c:ilim< .. ~ tbiak ii is a
wonhwhile goal or not. for example, he said, a lot of citizms are very CODCeMDd wida Bdlcview Parla: and
a lot of our parl< systems may be going down and maybe now that we ba\"C some cxtr.i funds that are
coming back from some of your n,sioration ideas ... is 11111,.., dwak about idoas cm bow IO get our parl<s
system back up. Bu~ he noced. !bay did not have time IO discuss those sons al daiogs and that was what he
WIS CX)lCdlng. He Did thal ma,l,e his e,q,ectallons "ac ..,__ wha is fair..lllll whca he thinks of
Council budget goals he WIS thinking !hey wcn, 10ing IO baw: ilp,t ialso --So Iha~ he aid. was
his personal obleMlion. it that ifthc,y were having a acssion like thal be-.ldlila: it to be called "give
you a stablS from the deplrtmenb." He ooted that when he dai,.. ai.. .--"MIit he is required to do
in his job, is that he thinks alaout die two ortlu"Cc things be really wam lD--IO impnlV'e ... 11111 be
still has to do his job everyday ... but what he w.ints IO do next year. 1llaL be said.-. his impraoion ol
the~l
City Ma nager Scan advised 1h11 he appreciated lhe fccdblct .
Mayor Bums eomm,.nted that al the end of many of tho5e pn,$Clllaliom tllcy ,...., the goals from last>=
ond those wen, in tl., fonn of goals. So, he said. he could sec wtiy then: •aolll be some son of confusion
about that .
Council Member Bradshaw stated that ~ .. also thoughl they ,.-ouJd be f~ piL
(ii i) Council Member Bradshaw asked how Good Neighbor Days wcnl She said she
would like an updaae on Good Neighbor Days.
Mayor Bums said he would like to co mmen1 on that He said he docsn ·1 know •·hcthcr Gary Scazs has
investigated the cnfon:cmcnt of the truck ordinance on lhc change on Unica. bal be did get aruthcr call
from Mr. Damico . He noted he talked 10 him ond he said they were looking at "'5toring the funds that t11 cy
n:moved from Good Neighbor Days ond he didn'1 say that they ""uld n«ZSIIUily do it alL but he did
mquirc as to how the enforcement is bein g co ndu c1cd on West Union. Wbethcs the \'e.hiclcs thaJ may be in
vio lation, initiaJly, were being ci lcd immediatel y. or just warned for awhile to mfonn them of what the new
regulation is .
City Man.1ger Scars advised 1ha1 he h,1s asked Chris Olson to give him an u:pc-.:1 lcltcr so thar they could
send th.at off to Mr . Damico , but he hasn ·1 received lhat yet
Mnyor Bums advised that he 1oid him 1ha1 he couldn't do any qu ic k quid pn> q,a,o obviously on somcthl11g
like this. But the impression he gol from him was thal lhcn: was a flash or..,_ initially. from the
co mpany , and Mayor Bums though! it migl11 ha\·c been hi s, that resulted in thi:-action that was taken. And.
he no1cd, Mr. Damico also con .mcntcd on the restriction of 7,000 pounds CiliX:' weight ... and reminded
himsclfthal it was empty wcight ... and they arc dctcrmilUng that this is 001 dml!: big of a problem for them
after all . So, he comme nted. it is not an one rous restri ction. So he said. he thtls tha.1 coo ler heads
prevailed and they have thought it :1\1 over and said we ll I guess ii is noc. all~ bad after all . So. Mayo r
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Buma llid, dtay are.....,. ln>Wld and •• did call ill ""l)OIIIO IO his lcacr ud ho tbousJU Ibo)· were going
1owoil<dlil..._
Council Member Bradshaw asked how tho Good Neighbor days went. Neighborhood and Environmcnl
Tlcbaldall w..,, ad¥iaod thoy had l'2 pank:iJIIIIIS, IO~ ..uemcly full loads, some tbal came in tbe
bock otcan. SIie ..ia-lalged that 142 a&111 low. but it is a1cncnl fllll numlJcr and tho fustW<>Ck is
die u..._ Sbc said lbc WIS SUR it will pkt up the ncJ<t lwo weeks, if tho wealhcr holda, tho Commissl011
will rally gd busy.1 Ml. Langon OOIIIDICIIICd thlt she has to say thal Waste Management was cxu.mcly
cordial to tho CommiSlion 111d mon, than helpful and supplied a 101 of tho supplies and "~"' most helpful
and Ibey rally kepi things movi~ With tho additi011 tbat wcnl tbrougb iul year. tbcy had morc bays and
things wcnt wry ..-Illy. She noted thoy .... ,. a little bil backed up two tilllCI, aboul I 1:30 and about
1:30, whcll ii wu aeniag cloa: 10 tho end. But 011 tho whole ii WCIII CXU.mely well and she anticipates we
will still come clooe ID Ille 600.
(iv) Council Member Wayoncr:
I. He Did that In lhc EnsJcwood ll<Wlplpcr be n:ad the anicle on park• and he was kind of Rupriscd
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io sec tllal the Roman's Park tbcmc was bup. Council Member Bridshaw conuu<nlcd tbat she tboughl it
-......,_._ No, Council Member Waggoner said. ii IYWI ·1 cilhtr one, it was llllUrc tbcmc. He
llalCd 11111 pat of ii bad 10 do with bugs. part of ii had to do with Rlikcs. pan of it bad 10 do with
~ pat of ii hod to do withtlOCd podl. port.of ii had lo do with IUlllcs ... !>!11 ii W3llD'tbugs. ii w.u a
IIIIUR tllemc Anti, be advised. tbcn, was not a dew:lopcr im·olvcd In tho HOW1na r· ,I< or Ho,;anna
axnplcx at alt It was between tho schools and the Cily and a lot or negotiations w,•01 on . He noted we
may have had a developer build it by bid, bul it was not a developer tbat had to put 11,a1 in. Nol the pail<
a,mplcx ... it was tho Cil)' in nego1in1ion with tho schools. and long ncgOliation; IO ~ it approved. And
with Urban Drainage and Flood Conlrol. Counr.il Member Bradshaw said . Council Member Waggoner •
ap,cd. He sold tbal aU Iba& tbat was to do was 10 lake tl1c peak oil" tho hydrog11ph so Jia1 tho overflow
a>uld go on down tho ditch and tho overflow would go inlo Hosanna Pall< until we could drain it away .
Ms. Bradshaw said tbat was righl.
2. He opined thal thoy do need to lake a look al our R-1-A zoning and decide wha1 is going to
happen "ith group homes and some of this otl1cr stuff. Council Member Waggoner stated we do need 10
ga. an answer from our Auomey Gcncr.ll. a response Lhat says why they allowed a group home to go so
close to another group home. when they have the definition in 1hc State Slalutcs that says it has to be so
much distance apan from another home .
3. He said since we arc gearing up on code cnforccmcnl 1.ha1 lhcy noticed a home the other day at the
soathwcst comer of Pennsylvania and Floyd . He staled it looks just li !.e tl1cy jusl walk ou1 tll! back door
and tbrow their trash bags right oul on the yard. There is all kinds or stuff piled up tl1erc .
M Council Member Habenicht :
She asked if they should have something as strong as a moll on for Cou ncil Member Waggoner's
suggestion that we get a response from the Allomcy General She advised she would like to sec that as not
Just one Council member 's choice. but a full Council request and she \\OUld so move .
C1cy Attorney Brotzman advised lhcy will actually be asking ll1m of th eir lcg1sla1or, because as the Au omcy
Genera l's office info rmed us last timc ... lhcy do not work for us. the~ "ork for lhc legislators and the}
won 't respond to us .
Well then we ,..,.rite to nil of them. Council Member Bradshaw said. •
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City A~ B~ aotrilod a. Tom Bl~er ICIUllly said 1111 time I.bat he would lJ)I and gel
us an answer on tlilL (,
Couocil .¥calller Habcaicb1 IIMl 'flf l"""'d like•..-Lhal wc1 ~ tlli1 u a Council. Through all
of our~ l:ouii:ca~Nabbolz .... Mlyw''!I""" ojjdthat bclhciught lhal~cloi!ain!y
Council'•~ lO '\" .-IIDl{,., )YU !If-wuodhe ... time. I ( I
So, Council 1Member Haloenlcht aJil. we don 'I n<all :ailllOdcM. we just 111\'C a strong co\ucnsus .
2. She advised that the Cullural Ans c..........., iJ meeting tomorrow nigh~ that dicy ustllllly meet
on Wednesday ni&hts. She 11:11"'1 \J,cy are baWII,. .-,cial piaentalion by Alice le1: Mafo . who 'MIS the
person who C/tfflC to the Pal1ts Md Rtc!<ation c.,......,. .i talked a lilllc bit about Cultural Arts and
how ii wotks within a commwuty. Cooncil Member Hallenidll c.<plaincd that-it 'MIS lhrnugh her
prescolalion lhal the Partcs and Rccralion ColllllU!liia, ,n,commended a Cull\Jral Ans CommiS1ion in the
City of Englewood . So it should be a fun mectina • Ille aid slie was loxing forward lo h.
J. She ltaled that she wanled to take this -~ to i:ongntulatc Lauri Clapp for getting on the
ballot for Slale representative . She noted lhal iJ ..,.,.. easy lhlng to do .
4. She aid she wanted to ay bow mush i: ~ 11,cr heart to attend the MMCV A Metro Banquet.
She nolcd she was awa,c Mayor Bums had -....d • lllaid. Ms. Habenicht noted ii was hc:artwarming
and wonderful and c.xciliag to sec the tlu= rcmn:,ililc yoomg people that were there rcprcscnting Arapahoe
County, who were from Englewood schools :in.1 EDyjlcwood nominations. She said she would like to ask
Council to support her a little bil just 10 say she 15 om lbc rig)II tracl: ... but she ""'"d like to find ou~ maybe
from An Scobello, one or'"" businesses in dic ai1D1D1unicy that might be willing to provide some soot of
small scholarship award to lhcsc yow,g people. Ms.. 'Habcnicbt noted that these arc probably tbc people
who mOSI need some kind of scholarship or fonanciil,1 ""5istancc Md mually they arc not the type of kids
that gel into tbc loop. She said she would like 10 ptlCRIC lhat a Ulllc bil
Council Member Bradshaw asked if Council Mcmlx:r Habenicht meant a .cholarship for college. Ms .
H.ibenichl said yes. Ms . Bradshaw poinlcd out tllalrllbc:rc arc billions of dollars I.bat arc not clnimcd and
that is available on d1t lntcmct and ifwc could &cillilate tbat ... rrut)1,c Hank Long could facilitate that for
them or something like lhal. But , she noted. I~ airman)'. many . many scholmhips that go uncla imed .
Ms . Habenicht agreed that maybe "~ can do that.
What happens, Council Member Habenicht said. is tlhat so many times these kids just don 'I ha\'e the
opponunity or the suppon or the mcntorship to go DD.and gc, lhcsc things . An:,'\\'3)', she st.11cd. she thinks
they deserve some c."tra special aucntion.
Council Member Nabholz SlalCd that she suppons lliul! idea that maybe "~ need 10 inform our busircsscs
through the media or somctlling else, that we have ditcsc bds and if they are "illing 10 support them . She
agreed that. for most of them, the only access rhcy w.oul d have to the Internet is here a1 our own Public
Library .
CoW1ci l Member Habenicht commented that their snories arc remarlcablc .
Mayor Bums stated he would join in Y.ith that. As ti! lUmS out. he said. he was out of town. bu! he was al
the two previous meetings. the one the County Cam.ttnissioncrs had. 100. and this really is a wonderful
program . He <Utcd the kids and the parents~ tilll;cd "i th had some reall y inspiring stories and he rc.'llly.
fully supponed Coun cil Member Habenicht in thru: c,:gard.
5. Council Member Habenicht said ii lm comae to ha attention that there is this fantastic mask
project that has been getting a lot of anent ion in tfiL!' tl1lClrC.' area. It has also come 10 her attention ,ti ... , one of
bate,lood Clly Couwcll
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the ll<OI ,le who hu a muk In thal project, which she undcnlands IJ raiilng lbncll flit HOIJlicie of Coldrada,
is our oNII Mayor Bums. She ald she undemands thal lhclc""' for purdwe.
cou~cn. MJ:MBqt.~ENICBT MOVID,AND IT W,\5 Sl~NJJED, THATTRi CtT'V OF
ENGLEWOOD PURCHASE ID MASK ~T W.,.S DO~.\'. MAYOR '.J'qM -~S ~D
THAT WE DISPLAY IT IN COUNCll. CHAMBERS FOR AWIIILE AND THl:N Jic>NATE ITTO
OUR BIST0'1CAL MUSEUM AND TO AU'J;IIOIUU UP TO $100 TO PURCHASE TBA T
MASK.
11.-yor Bwns 0011:d he dotso 'I know wbclhcr ii /jscs 10 lllal lcy,:I or 001. He staled thcrc arc some
wondcrfld muks thal have been done by celebrities and all kinds of people and his probabl y docso 't rise to
thal level, bul Ibis is a nice gcst=.
Cooncil Member Habenicht staled lh<y apprec;iale lhat he did tha1 and she lhoughl this would be a nice
lhing to do.
Ayes: Council Members Nabholz, Garret~ Bradshaw, Habenicht,
Wauoncr, Clapp, llums
Nay,: Nooe
Mayor Bums thanked Council Member Habenicht
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Mayor Bums said he though! lhcy had mentioned before tlial be was going to be givio~ a presentation oo •
Wednesday morning 10 lhe Soulh Meuo Cha mber Economic Dcvelopmenl group on lrnnsportation issues.
especially lhe southwest corridor. He noted 1ha1 lhis morning he spoke 10 a group out at the Tech Center at
the request of an anomcy friend of his . One of the members there is a member of a Rocary Club that tnCd5
in that arr.1 and asked him to come by and speak . She said they had hcanl lhe other side of the question
aboot the southwest corridor and she ""'"Id like for him lo come and talk about our version of what
happened there and why we have been successful. So, he said. "~ arc gcning a lot of anention, people arc
v,ry, very interested in what we arc doing with Cinderella City and tl1e southwest corridor. He nolcd be
spoke generally on Cinderella City, but also the lighl rail is a big issue "ilh these folks . He said he is
happy to be getting the word out as 10 what we have gone through 10 achieve this success and he is hoping
they will c:onliouc to do that If any of Council has the opponuni ry to do Ih a~ he would encourage lhcm ,o
~ to groups and whatever about our e:-cpcriencc here .
13. City Manage .r's Report
(a) Regarding Air Life. City Manager Scars said he didn ·1 know if Council would lilcc us 10
come together with some aJ1ema1ives. in regard to participation in th-: Memorial Park. or how Council
would like lo address that issue
Cou ncil Member Habe nicht sai d th.1nk you. that since it is he r underslanding that it is property owned by
Soutl~ :'.;uourban ... and she didn't hc:ir that Sou th Suburban had suppo ned it in any way ... that it seems 10
her that ".-~.'er refunds arc avai lable to South Su burban. as well as they arc to us . And. she said. she knO\'s
the City ofEngkwood, for the memorial for the airplane park. where we brought in the people from
I oc~:hccd Martin and all of the work th~• did, thai th.al was a spectacular and wonderful event And th.it
WciS vc 1y meaningful to them . the commemor.llion !here . Bui she thought thal perhaps they should
cncotL"':lge South Suburban to utili ze the ir opti on 10 go 10 the water refunds and to get some money to
support that prC'gram . Perhaps. she said . we co uld send them a le tter of support of lh,11. •
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Also, Mayor BumJ aid. be .._..,. ii ...... be good to have some oplions to be presented to Council. He
Wiled that it ,.,.. 1 uagic illCidml ad ...a Clolugb it wasn 't in our City, it was very close . This service, be
noted, obvlausly scrvica e........,....,..,.. a daily basis and it is vciy important to our community.
City Man&.., Scan indicaUd 1!,ey ca pull that together.
14. City Attonoey'1 R,p,rt
(a) City An0<ncy ~ requested settlement authority for the Gcsin case, which would
entail getting a lia:ns.:. "'"' coming bock to Council with an ordinance for a pica: of property that is about
two foot square for a po.!~ for the Gcsin 's house.
But , Mayor Bums said. the.-• ,.,u be no cncroachmcnt on the riglu-<if-way by the structure. City Auomcy
Brotzman said that was com:a. Ma)ool" llons commcntal that this came through the Water and Sc,,~r
Board originally and he tbougbt it •-.s _,ipriate that there be some sculcmcnt oo this matter and this
seems like a good compromisl:.
Council Mcmbc 1 Waggoner ast<d if there will be an overhang outside or 1he posts. City Auomcy
Brotzman s:iid no and cxplaiaal..,. the post i, on the very edge so that will tal<c can: of eve,ything on
that.
COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSBAW MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO ACCEPT THE
SETTLEMENT ON THE C!Sil( CASL
Ayes : Cow:dl Members Nabholz. Gam:lt. Bradshaw, Habcnichl.
Waggoner. Clapr . Bums
Nays: Nooe
Motion carried.
15 . Adjournment
URNS MOVED TO ADJOURN. lltc mccling adjoumcd m 9:21 p.m .