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ENGLEWOOD CITY COUNClL
ENGLEWOOD, ARAPAHOE COUNT\", COLORADO
Regular Seulun
September 8, 1998
Mayor Bums advisccl Cowicil Member Clapp should be back sborlly, that she was ha,1ng a lillle L~roal
difficulty and she ww11cd to go get something for it.
I. Call tu Order
TI,e regular meeting of the Englewood City Council was called to order by Mayor Bums at 7:~9 p.m.
Jnvocation
Tiic invocation was given by Council ~lembe, Nabholz.
3. Pied~ of Allegiance
TIIC Pledge of Allegiance was led by Mayor Bums.
4. Roll Call
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Present:
Absent
A quomm was present.
Council Members Nabhol z. Bradshaw. Habeni cbL Waggoner , Bums
Co11ncil Members Clapp, Garrett
5. M1,11tcs
Also present: Cay Manager Sears
City Attomcy Brot zman
Citv Clerk Ellis
Oi.:OC1or Simpso1L Neighborhood and Business Development
(a) COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW ~tOVED,AND IT WAS SECOND[:\,.<)
APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF AUG US T 17. 1998.
Ayes : Council Members Nabhol z. Bradshaw. Ha bc111d11. Waggone r. Bums
Nays : None
Absent : Co1111cil Members U1rrct t. Clapp
Moti on earned .
6. Scheduled Visitors
(a) Prcschcdulcd visi tor Jolm Brick was not prcscnL
7. Non-,c hcdule:d Vi,H-;!'!
(a) F:.t1tk Miner. 3121 South Vine Street. stat ed he was here tonight to bring up l11c mancr of
rczomng of the R• I •A neighborhood by Universi1y Boulevard. He said li'-11 reccntl ) he came across an
an1clc published in the International Cc 1nctcl)' & Funeral Management maga1J 11c. wnncn by Edwin P.
Carpcn :cr \\ho ts an attorney specia li zi ng the cc mctcric s ,10d fun eral industry and he 1s based in Topeka.
K..insas . He prc~nlcd the City Clerk with se veral co pie s of the article for Co un cil. In th.is , Mr. Miner s.ud.
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he Sln'.SSCS the problems ar rczooios lot· die runcral indumy, 1dtc1 the runer.il industry into zones when: it
is not pr,:scntlyocccptcd. Asa -of fact, he'notcd, tht Ulle ofthl!-aitielc is 'Navigating Your Way
Safely Tluough Zoning Land Mines." Mr. Miner advised that, nwnbcr one. he Sll)'S thm ordinances have
been held valid that prohibit • funa:11 lw,onc from a residcntlal district, Uiat funerJI homes have been
prohibi1cd . and a,c prohibned. bccmic they may lower property values to surrow1ding landowners . TI1is is
an attomey , he pointed out. wortiac in tlic runer.il industry . advising people in the funeral induslr).
Basically he says that c:cmdCrics DR wonderful , people IO\'C ccmclcrics ... open sp.1ce. pcrpc1ual c.vc. no
problems 11i1h cconct<rics ... you cm lacate !hose most anywher,:. But funeral homes arc a commcri:ial
indusuy and he advi ses. oouruds. bis people not to Ir)' to anetnpl to put them in residential areas Mr.
Miner said the cxccpuo n being UJ o6dcr. run.-down neighborhoods ... ,•cry often a fw,cral home in an older
run-d0\\11 ncighborhourl H1tl c.lh:ana: the neighborhood and help it. But in new up and coming
neighborhoods tl1cy 10 .... ,1 property ,21ucs. Mr. Miner S.1..'d thal this is what we . in our neighborhood. don't
want to sec happen . Hr ,i-. iJOcl lhol Ille corucnsus in our neighborhood. and he has can"asscd the entire
neighborhood . 1s that 1t: ~ don"! WUI io so.. lhc rezoning ta l<c place on Univcrsi1y Boulcrnrd. just north ol
Dartmouth He s.1lt1. . fccl u W10 lower their pmpcn) values, because it \\Ill in crc.1sc traffi c on two
hc.1v1l~ tra,·clcd •,:rec!!! :aid lhc:y sec oo dc1r,011strJtcd need. 11,crc an: three funeral home s \\1thin . l•.c: would
say . less than a mile Hi: noccd he bai 1101 paced i1 01: oot there is one on Hnmpdcn. one on Col ;,,rndo
Boulevard and one on P.,r~.sy ~ Miner str:.s..;cd ll ~I they sec no need fo r an addi11011.1l funeral home
in wll.1t is presentl y an R-1-A l'eSldall.J.al ncighllorhood.
(b) Lester Myas. ,1 9S SGuth Clarkson Street , advised he is bnck in rcgnrd to the code
enforcement and police protcaion am! problems tl1cy ha,-c had in the neighborhood . Hr said tliat. as he
mentioned the lasa lime he was bcrc.. approximately a month ago. that he has seen more problems \\ith code
enforcement officers and dungs m 11K aaturc. ~1.r. M~cr:. s:iid that after talking to the di\uion officer. and
he was hoping he would be here lllise,,ening, he said he had given Council a repon in ,i:gn.'li 10 the
temporal)· pcnrnt he h3d in his"~' and the windo,\S were· ;l.-,dcd and you wcrcn~ able IJ sec it. He
gave tl1e Ci~· Clerk two pidurcs of die lcmporary pcnnil for 1.:ouncil's perusal . Mr. Myers cp1ned that ii is
qu11c ob\'1ous 1ha1 thC) arc vis,blc. tmll is from a dist..'lll cc a:1d just situnc in front of the hou~. So. he s.-ud.
he ob\10USly d1.s.1grccd "itb his rqxwL He ad\'ISCd Lh:u the:,· have still had a IOI of \'and.i..lisn, tn tl1e
neighborhood . in 1he la.st couple of weeks or so He s.1 :d he has seen more code enforcement officers .
:1~1,11 . than Ju.: li.1 s :;o.::1 pol ice olTJcCB.. And tl1.11. lie nolcd. just irTitatcs they l1cck out of lum ... bccausc lu s
taxpa~ er's m<'ney. In fxt.. be said. he had one s1op and wave 01 him the other mght ou1 there m the ~ard
and h..: found th.11 v~I) imtablc to h:n-e more code enforcement officers dndng around !1is ne1£hborhood
than he has police office~,. hen thq arc h.wmg so m:1c h vandalism 111 J ,e nei ghborhood . Unfonunately.
he ad vised. Cow1cil mil ha\-c another gentleman speak 1orught thal just had his windo\\ broke out tlus
evening. Mr. Myers said dicy bal :a,thcr ncighbor at HO I or 4203 South CL,rkson. who ~'lid he called the
police. but they won~ do illl)1'1ing about it. He h.1d his broke out just about a \\CCk ago . He saod he docs
h.,, c to gh·c 1hcm credit. the) had ptc11 y quick response the otl1cr ni ght. they were ac1ually ther e ,qlhin 1cn
mi nutes after th e) c,,lle.1 ~ '13d some prot. 1cms ,, uh some kids in :he •1eighborhood . so . he saJd. he
docs ha,·c to g i\'e rhem credit fo r 1hc r.ar:t 1h.11 th•: respo nse time h;,3 incrcnscd and is much bc !lcr tli.an it was
m the p.1 s1 S1111. it.: pc1111od out. a lot uf ixopli: 111 the ne ighborhood a.id have got the n1111ude ·.,hy c:all
them . 11 docs n'1 dC" a1•~ good. the.' drJn"I do illl)thmg Jbout what is go111 g on arow,d here any,,a~ ~r.
M)crs ad\lscd l!1a1 he h.,s seen tlv-o: or four ,:;11C10\\S broken 0111 in iust the laSI cour'e of week s \\ilhin a
six. cigl11 block :u-c,1 of \\here he lJvts arr of Clark so n :u1 d Pnncclon . He said 11 is JU like he told tl1 c
poli ce officer tonigln . 1f Lhc)· \llould make tJtemsclvcs , 1siblc. because code enforccml nt docs. lll..'!t they
woul dn't have these proble-.ns to the OCJghborh ood Mr ~l )C rs !.a itf he prob,1bl~ should 11'1 ha, c said lhal
1hat \,as goin g a linlc bu ou1 oflux.. bul II rca.11) 1rri1:1tcd lum. cspcc 1all ) "hen his neighbor!, \\Inda,, gees
broken ou1. 1lungs or th.11 R.llw-c:. Hi: advised he ha s asked for C.\;tr.1 police protection III thee\ ernn gs.
csp:cially bch,een 11..,1 pm. and rrud:rught TI1crc :1:e J lot orumcs tliat he walks up and do,\11 Lh e
neighborhood there and sitting out oa tlte pa1io and he rlC\ er secs a police car go by He said he d°'-!sn 't
kno w ,, hy th1.., neglect that pru1 of1bc neighborh ood 01 "hn l th e probl em ii; 1hcre
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Mayor Bums .. kcd Mr. Mye11 ifU,cy have an active Neiahbori>ood Watch in ltis ncighbottload. Mr.
Mye11 said 1101 ,u Utis lime, U\81 he hOJ lllkcd lo• few of lhc nciahbors. but unfonunaicly tbc ~ of
!he nei&11..ors arc new, jusl moving in, or lhc p1a.., 11 for snle. so U1ey haven'! been able 10 ~111.iaa 9lia& lll
Ibis limo wiU1 U,c Neip1borhood Wn1ch program. He commented lha1 he WU chairman of a Nci....,_
Watth program years ngo. in w10Uicr area . He said he 1ltinks ll>e progmm worl<s prcny well. May..-Bums
noted UUII wc really have one of the most active Neighborhood Watch programs. probably tllc t.a..,. in
u,e Slllle. wc haa o«r 330 block panics a few weeks ago when we had lhc National Ni~ Out He asked If
Mr. Myers hns 1alkcd 10 Nancy Pc1crso,1 at the Police Department Mr. ~ycrs said no . Mayo , Burm
advised Uwt Nancy Peterson is UIC paJ'ly 10 talk 10, U.il she hcods up our Neighborhood Walch P"'IID'JI and
do-:.s a f,1 11aS1ic job and 11 .. been recognized by !ho State and even nationally for this progr.>m. .5hc ,s o\"Cr
with 1hc Code Enforccmcnl office anu he can gel U\81 munber . He said Ms . Pe1ersoo is absolutely llllc
person 10 talk to . if you don'l lwve a Neighborhood Waieh proa,:un she will gel you one and if~-Fl
within 1en feel of Ms . Peterson you have volunteered. lie opined she is g,CM al this and be really
encouraged Mr . Myers to taJk to Ms. Peterson. b :cause 1ltis could be a bi& hclp willl all tbc vandalism
problems.
Mr. Myers noted that as he mentioned when he w:1 s here prc\'iously he was looking for suggcslJDIISor
things tJ1cy can do in the ncig.hborhood for this n.ason .. \\ 1th all the prob lems Ille~ h.1,·e had "ith tk
v:rndalism Md all the windows being broken and now it 1s gen mg to \\ here thC) \\Ill e,·cn do Jl UL~;light
Ma)or Bums staled tJuu iflhey have ccn11inju\·euilcs doing 1lt.is. or ncighbort1ood kids. Lhe)· p~· need
to identify that . And. he nolcd, Council Member Habenicht 111..1dc a good suggesuon about Nelgbbadmod
Wnteh. He opined thnl the combinali on of things could rc.1lly help him with tJus problem.
Mr. Myers commented that they did l•vc an incident a few weeks ago tJ\al he thought was ratha tt,111Crical .
A couple of old ladies and a go--car1 'A'Crc pulJcd over by a police car and tJ1ey didn't know \\ hat to dD about
it. Because lhcy had been working on lhis g<H:art. golf can. 10 get u going and the one lady was in :.:r
fiflies and the other lady was in her eighties . He said ii \\JS funny how tJ1c police can find somctb:l:tg like
tiin1. but they can't find tltcse k'ds driving around wiU1 BB guns and pellet guns and tltcy ob,,ously must
have a buck.cl of rocks in the ear with them because they use a sling shot to shoo! these rocks and sadf
with . Mr. Myers said he did gel a prc11"1 good description of o p:ck-1•µ lite olllcr night Iha! he 11>,m might
be involved so maybe 1h01 will lead 10 something. But again. IIC said. he wanted 10 state tl,e faa ~DII Jle
feels offended that he has seen more cOOe enforccmcn l officers t11..1J1 he hns seen police officers..
Mayor Bums said he tJ1ougl11 lh.11 was why he may find Neighborhood Wntch so helpful. bcclu:se ~ don 'I
h.wc to have Ll1c police oul tJ1erc all or 1hc umc, if they l~\'C a good Neighborhood Watch progr.un.. .And if
yon h:r,c ccnain kids. he nolcd. often we find 1ha1 it is the kids m the neighborhood domg the: cia..a:age and
)'UU may t-c able 10 identify them .
Mr Myers c.xpl:un cd 1h:u 1hc1r higgcst problem is Iha! the~ do11 '1 IL1,c an~bod~ on Lhc cast side of t!ic street
1hat can sc·c 1hcrc So all they c.11 1 do isju~t on the sides s1rcc1s 1J1cr" \\lt11;:h most of the people a.r.e o ut
go11c , or JUSI 111 0, mg oul and one house is vaca,11 there nglll 110,\ So. he s.11d. he has talked 10 .a an~plc of
people and the ~ arc willing and lhC)' w:uu lo do somc1h111g also . because they arc !ired of the \\lJldi::m'S
lx;i!!~ :;i, out anc1 brok1.11 out and different 1hi11gs of thal nature and tJ1 c graffiti. Mr M~·ers ruw:d. n:luu an~
suru;c.st,..,n.s or 1dc.1s or any help t11cy c:111 get he \\OUld dcfimtcl~ apprccm1c 11 .
Mnye,r Bllm s ask,:d 1h:11 he lal k to Na11q· PcterSOI'. that he fel l Mr M~e rs would find her 10 be .a gr:21
resource . Mr. f\.l ~ers said okay .
(C) Bri;m Bleile. ,UOI South Clarkson Street. said the reason 1s lus here 1s pan!~ bc:causc ;,f
what Mr. Myers \\as talking aboul ... codc enforcenu.:111 \e:sus po li ce cnforce me111 He advised t.h.JL he
wrote down lhc sugges:1J11 about cont.icling Nancy Peti.:rson ar.J he \\Ill dcfimlcl~ get a hold of~~
Pclcrso n. Mr Rici le s1a1i.:d th:11 he works out of hi s house and he 1s home 24 hours a d.1~. sc, en d:11'.,' s a
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w .. :1r.. so 11e ......... kA o(whal ispngon, Ho said he wonl in Ille house 016 :00 Md SIMod WIIIChing
lhc pmc 11111 _...,. out al 7:00 IO annc 10 1110 111ec1ing ond his window 111111h01 on his 1ruck , He said
h< docsn'I kMw if~ n,alizes Ille c"1enl or lhc Jnmngc thal Is happening 0111 lherc, but 11181 mak•
sc,'Cn homes i&llk ... ,..... and a halfllaal he knows of in his lwo block area 111.11 have h11d lheir windows
shol CUI. He aid lie-led 10 know lflhc police ac1ually 1111,. lhis is o seri ous cnou&h issue , He said we
can,;, ..i LIit alllnll .. ,wdl ii is kids .. 1111 a BB gun, kids do kids lllings ... bu1. his SBO ccductibic on hi,
insurance un'l 111'11!1 to .. .if hc soys ii is a kid wllh a BB gun, ii is o kid ll1ing ... 11 hi don'I you just ~ace II.
Mayor Bums Sillid kl1binks ii is a lot . u 11 way 100 1111-th, bul it is not efficient to ha\'C a c,tll nnd response
with lhc pt>li<c ID IIJ'IID soh'C thal kind of chronic neighborhood problem . He 1hougl11 perhaps U1cy need an
i111p,1t1 loam if b i$dlaa serious . So, Mr. Bleile soid. yon don'l think a chronic ncigl1bort1ood problem
should Wll1llN IK,.UC.7 Mayor Bums said no , 11131 whol he i, saying is lha111,c Ncigl1borhood Wolch
progr:un. which N,-:y Petenon. as a police officer. adminisleR ... what that docs is pul Ilic neigl,bors in
conrnct \\ith cadl cda'. So ir it their kids 1ha1 arc out roaming around or" hatC\·cr. they get 10 know each
other. they ge1 to knr.,w the kids in Lhe f'C1ghborhood, they get th is co mmunication going back and fonh
between them and dlwt is much belier than having to pick up the phone :ind call the police every time
somcuiing happc:,& He maanaained ii is just more effective . Mr Bleile said tha1 he concurs 1009/.,
Mayor Bums sta1cdlttbm commwli1y poltcitig is a big issue in Engle"'ood. \\C l"Crul~ like 10 push that and
Lhal is a 101 of wit.al dbal is all about. He s;iid he was sure II was frust.r.Uing if the~ arc just calling the police
all the 1im: and waDllin& them 10 rush OUI if so,nconc knocks a '4indo\, out or something. but Ui.11 is not the
mOSl efficient"~ miuk.c Cll'C of ii .
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Mr. Blei le staled Ll.1.iU! ttac docs not C.'<pcct . after the ract. an omccr 10 come ou1 and sol\c lus problem . He
cmpbasia,d Iha! whul!llecxpccts oul or111e poha: dcpanmcnl enforccmcn1 ,s 10 keep 1hosc problems from
ocarninr,. PrC\'Cllr.la. Council Member Bradshaw Slid . Mr. Blcile said exactly. prc"cn1ion. He noted •
there 113\1! been "'1l1IDDIIS Sludics done tha1 even Uw, si~lu or a pa1rol vehicle decreases the amount of crime
in a neighborhood. !Sis just a given fact . And like Mr. Myers s.iid. l\,o meetings ogo he was here and C'\'Cr
since Lhcn they bafflkql( ur.i.ic.. A running tabul.1tion or whnt th~ ha,·c seen . versus code enforcr.mcnl
versus law cnforcaae:m. Mr. Bleile said diaa the day the two old ladies were pulled m·cr in the golf C1'.rt
w.u: the firsl timemmy 11mc they h.,vc !ten a \·chicle in 1hc L1st few mec t'ngs Council has had llJld lhcy
have seen code caforn:::11lCOI four tim,~ tlc commented 1li.11 he undcrsianc!s ~ '\de enforccmcnl is lhcrc for a
reason. he <locsrt'l h:a»c: a problem wilh 11"1:ll other Ow, 0 1crc is somcth.ing n'". uorking right. He said ii
s~1ouldn'1 be th.it you 'Jtt singled out more because yol!:--weeds arc gt0\\111g 1:UI. than the v.indal1sm
occurring to our~-Mr. Bleile said there is just !IOmcthing ,, rong and he docsn'1 understand . if
Council doesn't~ undcrsland the impact or whm is happcnmg. He po11ucd ou1 1ha1 this is seven that
he knows about a:i dim!', Dt"f in:luding the pt.'Ople he doesn't know aboul. In foci., neighbor had hers
broken out twice tn tw«> weeks and his 'llhcr ncxl door neighbor li.1d lu s broke 0111 the next week . So. he
said. it was ju st lus tw:n
Council Member N:ib haolz asked 1r h~ 1lli the police c:ich lime this happens Mr. Bleile said lhcv call 01c
police . cvcf) lime II ltM happened Ms Nabho lz said then there is documcnt.:llion on record. Th~ comment
was m. .. 1de that rhcy cul each umc . bu1 rnhcr I\CtghborSJUSI s.1y wh~ bo1her . bccmsc 1lu.~· don 'I do anything
about it. Cmmcil Mcmtbcr Nabho lz noted 1h..11 1hm is pan or the pr oblem and they need the d, .:umcntallon .
Wh;n !he~· an: doing d.1fcct 1,cl) 1s co111 111umc:u 111g amoug rhemsch c" as nei ghbor s and she encouraged
them 10 1011c h base w1rlil N~ Pc1erson Bui. SJ1c po111t ed out. th e po lic e \\111110 1 kn o\\ th ere 1s a probl em
1fthcy s.1y 11 11,,s h.,ppcmcd cighl or mnc 111ncs. hi we have onl~ c:illcd ~o u once \ls Nab hol1.
ac knowledged that somlCl uncs response !line 111.1) be longer than \\C \\Ou ld all like 11 10 be . but they have 10
hm·c the documcnuuoui lO crc.11c a record oftJ1 is. so 111.11 \\e c:111 sec tl1a1 \\•~ rcall ~ need 10 p.1y .ittenuon 11.1
tins pan of town . Trtl!,Cl me. Mr Bleile s:ud . somebod y rc;1il ~ needs 10 p.1~ a11e1111011 to llus pan ofto"11
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Council Member Habenicht co1M1cnwd that .iic 1"""5 what he is sayioa ... doc .-uon. Bui. she ,aid.
shr. would also like to sh,.n: lhal sbe ha,; aucndcd some program• on ~ fllllicia& lhal have lalkod
about. .. and silo wldento,Jd then, 1<-as one in Deaver Cllllcd Eyes and Ean. or-iua, like Iha! ... where
eve ry vehicle, every presence of the cny, whether ii be public work£. code...,.,_,,._ animal co111tol ,
snfely scrviccs .•. lhcy arc out in UlC 5trCCISand oblc 10 counter lhosc kindso(..,.._ So, .tic sa,d. 5llC
kuoW5 that in a way they arc expressing a (ru£U'Dtion. but that it i, al50 to lbeir 8 .u1agc that other city
vehicles arc ('IUI there .
Mr Bleile agreed U•ll ii is a 1cam clTon . U'1t everybody iu Enl!lcwood sboold br OIi the same 1cam, it
shou ldn't Ir nnybody competing against one another . He said he agreed 1<1th -Illa¾.
Mr. Bleile Sl:ltcd U•11 U1c folks he nnd Mr. Myers have i,Lkcd 10 arowv' their i-.cs. thal the incidents have
been between 10:00 and nudnigl1~ c.xa:pt tonight nnd U1is wai; bct1<ccn ~ ~ _, 1.:00 ltjus, happened to
be coincidental. on his way to this meeting.
Mr. Ble ile said he just wamcd 10 bring 11u~ 10 Couuc:11's attention. I.hat he doarnl •'ant 10 be a chroruc
complainer. but it is gelling \'Cf)' serious.
Mayor Bums su1cd tl1nt Council i; glad lie did. because he definitely rt<Cds to ave some ac, ion over there .
He thanked Mr. Bleile for coming.
I Clerk's nolc : Council Member Clapp entered the ntecling al K:09 p.m.l
(d) Chris . .tilncr. 2232 East DanmouU, A,·enuc. said U•ll ~ he was htre this C\·ening
to let Council know 11•11 tllcrc is an ""ful lot of suppon for the funcrnl chapd· a UruvcrsitJ and Danmoutb.
He said he hvcs rigl11 on DartmouUc across Ult street from U1t church . He ..i.-.m that one: of 1hc Uungs
tllOI is going on over tl1crc. at that litUc church. is tlial U,cn: "Vet) liulc ~ nnd wllOI landscaptng
u,crc is is mostly weeds and UlisUcs. plus tl1cy have seven old school buses paii;al there. He no1cd that
when the wind blows all of the seeds aud cverythms el!tC blows; across D31'UD01a11 iNO lheir yards . II
makes for a terrible mess. considcnng lhe weeds and Li v Llus1lcs and lJlC dust ad &he din and tllCy also
ha\e the SC\·en old buses to contend willt Mr. Milner advised lh.-i! anolhcr thalg US happened Ul their
neighborhood is 1h01 , as he was sure .. · of Council knows . this is not solllCSi:nc new t.har has co me
before Council as far as proJCCIS for~"' propcn y. He Slated they \\Ould hloc 11>2C a non-polluung. qwcl
non-threatening business. like a funeral chapel esta blished there. He miUDlaa::ed 1hcrc has been an a\\ful lot
of misinfonnation filtered ou1 inlo 1he community . Misinformauon like~ 1s. gomg 10 be cmbalrrung and
cremation taking pince there. Mr . Milner stated 11 is not. it 1s stnc1ly a funcraJ c:mp"J . He said he can go
out and find !tix articles, right now, th.11 will tnJk about a funeral chapel lll a ~rhood bcmg good for
property values . So. he said. he thinks we need 10 look :11 \~ha11 s actuall) go1::J.~ on m the neighborhood .
He stnted he ha s a li sr of homco\\ ncrs ,1long D:1n111011th and along Danmouth C•dc and \\'C arc I.he people
who arc most affected b)' tlu s propc:1). And to a person . he saui. tl1c) h.1\·c s:asd yes. they would like 1c. sec
1his propcn y go in. He 1101cd thal a gcnllcm.111 spoke earlier here about ca.milSSlmg the neighborhood and.
he said. frankly . t11at is jus1 a lie. Mr . Miluer advised the:, ha\'e bad homco,.ne:n; mc:cung.~ al Ins home and
thc1c is trcmendcus suppol"I for th.is proJCCI in tl1c1r nc1 g,hborhood Again. be $ad, ii 1s because there arc a
lot of them 1ha1 would like to sec th;U propcn y finall) developed and dC\dopi:Q uao something Lh,1t woulc!
be acsthc1icall}' bc.1u11ful. but also non -po llutin g. 11011nvas1\e 11110 the::~-not invasi\·c in10 our
neighborhood . With 1hc plans the Newcomer's have proposed 10 us. he saad. rT"~g landsc..ipmg. hours
of opcr.nion 1hey close al 9.00 111 the ~\ening ... thc idc.1 of 1\~0 or three f~ proccss1ons a week . ma,
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He said he thinks tllat if someone is conc.:med obout tmffic congestion two times a week rrom n :':iner.,I
procession. thal he really reds they need to get o hobby or something . Because. he wd. tint is one tnp we
are all going to take someday and he W<JUlij oertalnly like to thin!: U"ll we could cut someone sorr.~ slack if
chcy are holdins us up five minutes on our way to Safeway. He said he jasl really wnnrs Council • ., knr1w
that there arc: a whole bunch orus that live in Englewood . .,. Englewood tnxpnycrs. Englewood , oi,•: wt.i
arc in favor ofthi5 project . He nOll.'d hr. hRs a list of homeo,\ncrs nnd he ill getting more C\'Cry d.!•, He
said he just really wants Council to know there is another side 10 this s1ory .
(e) Ray Berlin. 2132 E.,st Dartmouth . soid he ,s n neignbor or Mr. Milner, nnd he :::anked
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Council for their time . He said he would like 10 make ~ome specific comments 1h,1t he thinks are :,1rcraely
1mponant to 1hc :ipproval of this PUD . f;rs1 of all , he 1101cd. the false infonnntion Mr Milner \\:l: ::..."·. •i,,~
to. especially in regard to a crcm:uoriwn ... 10 make n crcm.11oriwn profitable 1hcrc yo u would h.'.1 ',"! :o bum
lclf or Arapahoe County . He opined )'OU could never 11,ikc the 1hing P"l' and Uuu's no, C\'en in r.:s PUD
And rc.aJi 1j n~ he s.1id tha1 Newcomer nuu a business that is lughly susceptible to criticism . tltt!:• ha,·e a
tug,h de gree of int cgrny ... it is a business with a 101 of decorum and it is a business th,11 nobod~ I!: ;.e . I.hat he
can think of. "ould want 10 do. He pointed out th,11 they arc dcaJing with an aspect of life thnt ti:·.• ,.,f w
Jil.c to face al all . And they take c.vc of ii in a wa~· tkll is quiet. it docsn'I intrude on anybody art; :t would
be a benefil , in re\'icw or whal they ha\'e had pro~.;cd to them 111 the past. He said ,hey \\ ould r:=icmbcr
"hen the Chcslcr's moved that house over. I.hat wns nppro\'cd nnd o PUD wns gmn1cd Mt Berl:..:. runcd it
hasn't caused a great deal of intrusion in the neighborhood and this one won'l either. !n fa ct. he ~d. he
was looking nt some or tl1c comments that were m,1de b~· Commission members and incident.ill~ Si x of the
agbt commissioner's \'Olcd 10 approve lhis project with I\\0 disscntions. Ms . Tobm and Mr. R..uu::~:.r . \\ho
dJd not make ad\'crsc or llCg;JU \C co111111cnts even in their disscntion to ,·01c yes on thi s pr ~1eci . !._-,j ~tr.
Douglas, especially. has said. what I h,1 ,·e said in 1he past. time and Lime again. he s.1id it \\a5 n 1.:,~g.h
dcClsion for him because he lives in the neighborhood and he is afraid th.1t with this propo s.11. \\ r_ .:h he
hkcs. tli.11 he fears that there would be a much worse SC1.:nario pul forward and would be nppro, c-..: 111 the •
fulurc . And. Mr. Berlin said. so docs he . He s.iid he docs n'I ,,ant his neighbors. either in De m e: :>rm
Englewood . 10 ha,·c somebody impose on their righl 10 cnJo~ 1heir propcny in a pnvate way wu!' :-'J I
dtsa url>ancc fr om an~ ou1sidc intmsion. none or us wan1 tlL1t He sm d we nrc 1101 that kmd or pcci: ic 111
Englewood and that is why he moved here and he h,1s been here 28 years. Mr . Berlin stnted lh.:lt ::,! didn't
mcn,-c here from Denver bcc:msc he hnd no 01her choice He i,d\'iscd tlrnt Mr. Welker S1nted th.n1 ::.! docs
DOI sec the monuary chapel as n large lmffic producer i,nd . Mr. Berlin said . neither docs he . He :=amtaincd
u is not goini 10 produce any more trnrTtc at the times the~ go. because !hey arc restricted to \\ hi!!: th ey can
tu,oe a funcml go out And this. he said. is going to be :1 \'te,\ing center. not ,, monw1ry The~ 1.-:-::101
g.omg 10 bury people there. they arc n<M going to c111balin people there . Bui t.. ;r Berlin said. he ~_:.s 10
agree with people th.it hold that single rnmily dwellings \\Ould be the most r•~ :-opnah: us.,ge of ......:s
propcny. !hat goes wit hour s.,ying . TI1c sile ncq11isi11on for this. he advised. is S7 5tl.fM )O and an ~,::)! m their
ngln mind who 1s go ing 10 pay $375,000 for a site 10 build a house on. would go to Cherry Hills ·;. :Jere he
could get acreage . not a building site . He'll go 10 Cherry Hill s Fanns. because 1r yo u pay .S175 .1 '1 , , for the
building sile you surely nrc going to pul a $400.000 plus house on it. And. he poi111ed ou t. the ti .::: preccpl
or real cs1:11e 1s loc.11ion. locauon. loc:11ion and this is 1101 :1 loc111on for lhill kind or scc nano It ··-Si won't
"Ork there. nobody will build lhn! 1herc. if you pre:,ch .1bou 1 ti from now unul doomsdn y And :~~. he
S31d.. Mr. Stitt m .. 1de a comment Ihm the best possible use for the \;ind 1s single famil y dwellings . -. :Uch
"'ould be two smglc family unils, howc\'er. 1f more 1h.i1111\\0 arc dc\'clopcd 011 1!11 s propcn~. Lh e !\1msion
or w.ucr and sc"er 1s prohibitive a11d the cost is or great conccm Ir mo re than 1wo muis were de. !loped
on 1his si1e it \\Ould require the dcvcl op 111cnt ofa pm ale strccl. \\l11ch is s1rongl~ d1 scournged S,: ~tr
Berl in opined. that j ust ;ibout shoals cJo,\n anybody pullin g those londs of thi ngs in there He sa.: ~ most
a.ssu rcdl y he would 1101 like 10 sec our nei ghbors to the nonll in Denver. loo king ,11 lhc back side : fa blank
,,.a JI wilh 111ili11cs hanging on it. bcc:111sc condonunmm!, \\Crc developed there He 1iHllcd that ncrJ: or us
"'oold like tlLII. thal is highly intmsivc . Su . Mr. Berlin said. in co nclu sio n he. \\Ot1ld urge Coun c:. ·3 and
he was sure 1t~ .' would read these when they rC\•iew tlus ag:nn ... 11 would be . or all the scc nan o! :i 'JI forth
1n the p:1s1 ten ~cars . this one 1s probabl y the best. 1hc quic1c s1 and th e lc:isl 1111msive i11 lh c nei gt.r.,:1rhood •
that they c.i n hm c. And al1llough he 1s ;a bi g advocale or R-1-A neig hborhood s. he said . he does:-· ;mow
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what else they can do wilh lhis . Mr. Berlin sold that Mr. luninge~s oomu,cnt in here soys it aJl ... something
worse mu)' come down nnd it may be approved.
(I) Philip e:iring. 2702 Sooth FiU-.ad\iscd he is from Den\'er and represents lhc
Sou them Hills Community Association llw is on the CHI Side or lhc church. the proposed mortuary . He
said he come 1onigh1jw110 Wldcrstr Id a link bit IDOft:dlhc issues Iha! arc facing Otis planned
rcdc\·clopmcnt. A 101 of the indi\·idu.,l s within his hamccMlltf"s associalion hare contacted him. as lhc
President. 10 t.,y 10 gain a bcucr W1dcrs1and in1 of wha III going 10 be taking pince there . Some of the
commcn1s he hns heard. he ad\'iscd, arc \\hat h:1,-c ba:m cchocc( tonight with respect to propcrt)' values and
doing wtun is best for the site . Mr. Ncanng S.'Ud he feds II needs 10 be bcnclicial too. nol onJy Englewood.
bnt also 10 the folks on the Denver side . He oom-lA'.ll he reels kind or like lhe black sheep here
repre se nting Denver, bul he feels th,11 his homto"·ncr'~ a550ciation has some valid co nccms "1tl1 rc~pcct 10
o,e redevelopment Personal!)', he said , he h<a -.tlal NS a,c lhoupts around~aboUI po5iibly doing
something worse U,an the l1Xlltc.ary . Mr. Ncariag ,..al dial ma)'bc: they could rcdc\·elop, or re-landscape
the area de something belier with the existing church. 'So. he poinlcd oul , lhcrc arc 01hcr allcmati\'cs
besides lhe mortuary or something that would appear ID be less beneficial to the community He said he
just wanted 10 r.omc and let Council know that this is c.itdung the aucnlion of some folks on ll1c Denver
side . Undoub1cdly . he 1101cd. in the nc.~t couple of wceb. before we have the open h~ng. he ,,ould like
10 get a little bit more information about it and lie wodd like to know who to L1lk 10 about doing that He
asked who he 1nigh1 talk 10 in the fulUIC about lhis ma,:. Mayor Bums adviJed that Dirtaor Bob Simpson.
in U,e back. just raised his hand . He noted Mr. Simpsi,a, is 1'ith Neighborhood and Business Dc,·elrpment
and suggested 1hm Mr. Ncanng speak \\.ilh him
8. Communic.11iuns. Proclamalions :md A~ats
(a) A lencr from Denise Lombardi Ul<bcuuag her rcsignatioo from th e Englewood
Firefi gh ters Pensioo Board was considered .
COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW MOVED, AN9 JT WAS SECONDED, TO ACCEPT THE
RESIGNATION OF DENISE LOMIIARDI FROM TJlE ENGLEWOOD FIREFIGHTER'S
PENSION BOARD,
Ayes :
Nays:
Absent
Mo11011 carried.
Counc.il Members Na bholz.. Bradsh:m . Habenicht. Waggoner. Clapp,
Bu n ,s
None
Cou 11c1 I Mc1110Ct Gumm
Mavor Bums commented that as he undcrsLinds. from dh.1s lcncr , she ~JtnOl commu c to serve once she has
leO .ll1c City . City Allomcy Bro12ma11 C.'\:pl amcd that stu.: was a c.1ti1..eo member :md. although we would
,o, c 10 keep her on the board. once she ma ,·cd ou t of lflie City Lhat \\715 it. Sc\·er.11 Counc il members noted
thal she was a wonderful member.
Mn~ or Bums asked if that was being oommwuci 1cd to Ms. Lombardi . Ci1y Auomc~ Brotzman advised
Ll1e} will 1:1 kc care 1f that .
(b) A proc lam:11100 dccl :inng tJ1c week ati Scp1cmlxr I 7u. through v •J. l 9'JX .is Co nsuiuuon
Weck \\as cons1dcrcd
COUNCIL MEMBER NABHOLZ MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, T () .-\PP ROVE A
PROCLAMATION PROCLAIM IN.:; THE WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 17"', I ROUGH 2J"', 1998
AS CONHITUTION WEEK.
Ayes : Co un c. · \tcmbcrs ':ubhol z. Bradslia,,. Habcn,chL Waggo ner. Clapp .
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Nays: None
Absent: C\J1111cil Mc111bcr Garrell
Molion carried .
9. Public Hurina
No public hrnring wns scheduled before Cocncll.
IU Con .. nt Ai,,n~a
(o) Approvnl ofOrdinnnccs on FirS1 Rending
COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW MOVED, AND ITWAS SECONl'ED, TO APPROVE
CONSENT AGENDA ITl:MS 10 (M) (i), (ii), (I ii) and (iv) ON IIIRST READING.
(i) COUNCIL RILL NO . SJ. INTROl'UCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER
BRADSHAW
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A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE APPROVING SUPPLEMENT NO . I 38 TO THE SOIITHGA TE
SANIT A ,ION DISTRICT CONNECTOR'S AGREEMENT FOR THE INCLUSIOJ-Of L.AND WITHIN
THE DISTRJCT BOUNDARIES .
(ii) COUNCIL lllLL NO . Si. lNTRODUC:l!D BY COUNCIL MEMB!:R
BRADSHAW
A BILL FOR ANO, DIHANCE AUTHORLZING A LICENSE AGREEMENT BETWEEN MICHAEL
THY:-1 , E AND THE CITY OF ENG 1.EWOOD. COLORADO FO R THE INSTALLATION OF A 6"
WATER MAIN OVER THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD'S RIGHT-DF-WAY FOR THE CITY DITCH
LOCATED /,T EAST BATES AVENUE' ,.ND SOUTH EMERSON STREET.
(iii) COUNCIL lllL l NO 50 , IITTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER
BRADSf;AW
A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING A LIC ENSE AGREEMENT BETWEEN DANIEL
BROST AND THE CITY OF ENGLEWOO D, COLORADO FOR A BAR N WHICH WAS BL'ILTON
THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR THE CITY 'S Wt.TER LINE .
(iv) COUNCIL BILL NO . S2, INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER
BRADSHAW
A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING A"( RAITT OF A CITY DITCH EASEMENT"
BETWEEN THE FIRST CHURC H OF CHRIST, SCIE.-ITIST AND THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD,
COLORADO FOR A 25' EASEMENT ALOt;G THE CITY DITCH LOCATED A 1 370 I SOUlll
LOGA N STREET.
Vote rciulls:
Motion c;1 m cd
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Nays ·
Absent ·
Co1111cil Members Nabhol ;,~ Bradshaw, Habcm cht Waggoner, Clapp.
811ms
None
Cou11 ci l Member Ga m:11
ApprO\n l of Ordinances on Second Rcadmg
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TI1en, wen, no addiuoml iik:ms submitlcd for approval on sccon(i rending. (Sec Agenda Item 11 • Regular
Agenda.)
(c) RaoluliamaadMOl1ons
COUNCIL MEM.BUl WAGGONER MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO APPROVE
CONSENT AGENDA rn:MS 10 (c) (I) aad (ii).
(1) RESOLUTION NO. 9 I. SEIUES OF I 998
A RESOLUTION AUlllORJZING THE ENGLEWOOD OLD-HIRE FIREFIGHTERS ' PENSION PLAN
AFFILIATION Willi 1llE FIRE AND POLICE PENSION ASSOCIATION (FPPA).
(i i) ;u;sQLUTION NO . 92. SERIES OF 1998
A RESOLUTIO,: AlflHORlZING THE ENGLEWOOD OLD-HIRE POLICE OFFICERS' PENSION
PLAN AFFILIATION Wl1ll THE FIRE AND POLICE PENSION A~ JCIATION (FPPA).
Vote results:
Nai-.:
Absalt"
Motion carried .
II. Regular AJ!:l'IMU.
Council Members Nabholz, Bradshaw. Habenicht. Waggoner. Clapp.
Bums
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Co,mcil Member Garren
(a) Appro,-al aCOnlinanccs on First Rc.1ding
(i ) Director Simpson p,cscn•.ed a rcco111111c1via1ion from the Dcpanmcm of
Ncightiorbood and Busini.:m I)c\.'Clopmcnl 10 adopt a b1il 10r an ordinance .:pprO\'ing the Newcomer
Monua1)' Planned Um1 Dc,dopmcm and 10 set a public hearing on thi, mauer for October 5. 1998. He
advised thal Sia.IT is rccoa:uncnd.ing. as we do wiLh any of our Englewood ordinanD:.".s. tJ,at we set a public
hearin g 10 yio\'idc :ll1 opponumt)-for the public 10 conu: forward ;u1d testify eilhcr for or against Lhis
propos.1 1. M1. S11npson sated tJ1.11 ll1 is. by nu means . ~,rO\ ides any level of approval for lhis ordin a,1cc . Al
a later d.·uc.. Councll C3D-sm.11 dc:::i.rf) vole aye or nay 011 this m.aucr.
Council Member B~ ad\'1scd 1.h .. 11 sl1e asked our City Allon1 cy if they have to schcduJe :J public
hearing. Pc.rson.1ll). she: s:»d. I.he feedb ack she has received from \/ ..: neighbors in the area is Jmt they do
not want Lhis. they af-w!ulld} do noL
City Allomcy Brotzman ai:hiscd Lha 1 if she is basing her dccisio11 on th ~ inform;:tion from Plamting and
Zoning. on thci .~ record and what ~our ;·.o ning co nditi ons arc. 1hat's fine . If you arc going 10 look at wh.1t
the neighbors wanL th3l ts. go mg 10 hi. 1..1111s1dc c, 1dc nc c :md you really ;hould open a publi c hearing for
that , he c.xplaincd.
Council Member Bradsha.,,. said she had a qucst1 011 ;uic! referred them to pa ge J. Section I. item 9 of lhc
council bill . She st:ucd sbt:Just has problems \\1111 tl1at being a rc.1~111ablc use of 111.11 propcny am . tha1 is
why she was Lh..inkmg tbill if the lnaJorily of Council feels 1hat w:1y then maybe they wol!ld not C\-, ·n have 10
deal n 1tJ1 a public hearing. She asked if thal was correc1 . Ms . Bradsl1.1w explai11ed she is basing i i on
rc.1son.1blc use of the subjCCS propcni cs Cil y Allomry Brotz nl.UI clarified lhal this was based upon the
C\'idencc that .,-as prC'\ioos1y prcscm c(J to the Pl anmng a11d Zoning Commission . Council Member
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Br>dshaw snid yes and ndl'iscd Uuu she rood 1hc 111inu1cs of 1hc 111CC1ing anJ after dbu,g thal she still feels
1hal wny, 11'11 II.ii is 1101 n,ason.,ble.
C:ouncll Member Wa88oncr said he has been going down du-ough some of lhcoe llliogs. thal arc listed in 1hc
ordinan ce. and be too feels that there is quite a little here that has not been~ or. • lcnst. in h.is
mind. docs nol follow whal we hal'e ,111e111p1cd lo plan for lhc Cily or Englewood. He po,111.Cd OUI Iha!
number I says d'11 the District PIM rcquircmcnls ore in amfonnancc \\id! die Campd,ensiwo Plan. Mr,
Waggoner said he 1hinks 1ha1 our Comprchensil'e Plan calls for /u, R-1-A in llW--. ii has been zoned R-
I-A for a long time and that it should Slay R-1 -A. He smlcd ano1.hcr one. Oil nwnba-3 . says ii follows
gcnemlly ucccp1ed stnndards or devclopmcnl in 1he Cil)'. Council Member Waggaaacr snid he docs not
bclic\'c it follows the generally accepted standards of dcvclopmc111 in tl1c Cit) tbol ·area is supposedly 10
be developed as R-I-A . He Stoled he d,JCS not bclie\'e it is consistcnl "ilh the p(,l.d,jecu,·cs. design
guidelines. policies and any other orcUn.,ncc. law or requirement of the City We b-.oc other onlinances that
say dw is still R-1-A . And number 7. ag;1in. says generally :icccp1ed siandards of dc\'Cl opmenl and. Mr .
Waggoner s.i.id. he jus1 doesn 't bclic\'c 1ha1 ch.,nging the 1.oning :u1d gc1tin g u-ay fuom the R-1-A
dc\'clopmcnt in the area is a gcncrnlly nca:p1cd standard . He stated Lh,.11 he too wtll .as far as he is
conccmr.d . be voting no bcc:iusc oftl!:.SC reasons. along with number 9 that Conncl:Mcmbe-~ Bradshaw
mentiom:d
Council Member Nabhol z said 01,,."l she would like lo pi81,'Yback on Cow,cil ~ Bradshaw's and
Council Member Waggoner 's sa:ucmc111s . She agreed that ii is not i1f1 acccpc:cd Slaadard or de\•clopmcnt in
our R-1-A arc-u . She opined we have worked \'Cl')' hm1:t 10 try 10 brin g struldards an Englewood. in our
rcsidc111ial :i ,--;as . Ms. Nnbholz s.1id she docs 1101 think ii is a rc.uonablc use of that p;opcrt)' and she too
will be voung no.
Mayor Bum s nskcd if there were iuty 01l1er co 111111c111s.
M:i)or Bums :1dviscd th,11 he ll.1s ll.1d :1101 or input 100 :tnd some of the same people-,...ho 1es11ficd ai tJ1e
publi c h~uing ha\'e called l1 im on tlli .; .md lk: knows !:e can'I base this on th:Jt. But. !Jc atcd. he il&S tJ1c
same kind of concerns . 1l1is is a PUD applic:uion and ii 1s nol a rezoning under the pcscn1 zoning
classification . He asked if tl\3t was rig.hi. City A1tomcy Brotzman S3id lh:it was-concct. So. Mayor Bums
~,id. in order 10 pmcccd yon have 10 oca:p! lhe fact 1ha1 this is• PUD Jpplicatimllal you an: willing 10
cnlcnain. which is difTercnl tlmn just lhe rcgulnr 1.0ning. He s1a1ed he ha5 hod cooc::ms about ii nnd he is
conccmcd for the record :iboul it too ... he doesn't h,1 \'C :1 whole 101 of record here He S3td he has the same
concerns c\'crybody else docs. obou1 whet h,:r this is an appropn:uc use .
Counci l Member Hnbcni cht s.1 1d she \\Ould like to echo tll.11100 and SI~ tlut in bc:mmg the concerns of the
co mmission members 100 .. .is they rcscn1cd n ... lll.11 they arc talking .:ibout a cholct: bcl\l.ecn taking their
arm or !heir lcr. :md 1h.11 they preferred Inking the leg to the ann or sometl1ing. lmt something worse could
co me down 11lc pi ke . She s1:11cd she rc:1II}' doesn 't think ii would be respc:ms1blc lOtsuppon something
becau se somc1hing ,,orsc might h:1ppc11 . Ms Habc 111ch1 sai d she tlunks \\C ~ u-yrmg to find the lughcst
and best uses . aud ,, ha1 c, er ,,e ca n do , 1h:11 wou ld best sen e 1hc communm and thl!' R-1-.-\ d1st nc1
/to hhough she cm und crstl.lld so me rears. i1 docs n '1 see m 10 her to be 1l1c ~as upom "'ifuch to make this
decision so. she said. she 100 will be \'Oling no
Mayor Bums sa id he 1s some,, 1ml concerned tha1 ir they don 'I h,1, c a pub he hcnn~ tl~ wo n't get the
citi zen input . 1l1ey h:we had some 10111 g.h1 . and he kmd oflikcs 10 ll.l, e lha1 an 1.hcs.: k.mds of s i.u auons.
but. he noted . there is a st rong fc.-cl ing. II ap~1rs. n111011g !h e Council. that th.Js rs ncti an appro prinle use .
Mnyor Bums no1e:d th.1 1 they don't lln\'C a 111011011 10 pass at 1lus po11u and lh~ don! br.e J molio n to sci .i
publi c hc:1ri11~. He asked if :rnyonc: wo,1l d wish h> maki.: such ;i 111011<'11
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COlrlllCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW MOVED, AND IT WA S SECONDED, TO REJECT THIS
ISSUE HCAU;,~ IT WASN'T APPROPRIATE TO BE UNDER THE PIJD.
Ayes : Council Membc11 Nabhol z. Bmdshaw. Hnbcniehl , Waggoner, Clapp.
Bums
Nay s: None
Absent: Coi:ncil Member Gnrrcn
(b) Approval of Ordinances on Second Reading
(i) Coum ii Bill No . 48 approving 01e sale of Iha Depot building to 0,c Englcwo.:d
Hisrcnc:al Society under an instaJl .11e nt con1rnct was considered
CO i:. 'CIL MEMBER NABHOLZ MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED. TO APPROVE AGENDA
ITEM 11 (bl (i) ON SECOND READING .
~CE NO. 58, SERIES OF 1998 (COUNCIL RILL NO. ~8. ltrrRODUCED BY COUNC IL
MEMBER HA BENICHl)
A~i ORDINANCE APPROVING SALE OF DEPOT BUILDING BY 1liE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD TO
THE EN<JU.,,-,OOD HISTORICAL SOCIETY FOR Tl'E TOT AL SUM OF S76,000 UNDER AN
INSTALLMENT CONffiACT.
Coumiil Member N•bholz :ul,;scd that 1hc Historical Society says 1tc11ik you . TI1cy h.,d a board meeting
~· morning nod they appreci::nc the Ci1 y's partnership . their \,illingncss :md they were reall y
~·camng that tJ1is wouldn't go lo secon d r~1ding . Ms. Nnbholz offered thnnks for nJI they have done , as a
Ciry . for this soc iet y.
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Absent
MOllmll earned
Council Memtx:rs Nnbholz. Br:,d shaw. Hnbcnichl. Wn ggo ner, Clapp.
Bums
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Coun cil Member Garrell
Mayor Bwns asked Dircc 1or Simpsort. as a poim of infor m:uio n. to lell him where we rue on lh c: ather pan s
o(thasll'IIIS3Ction. including the land tr.trt'i fcrs \\l lh 1he Housing Kuthorit y Mr Simpson advised that
C\'cry1!mng Ins been app""-ed as of this c~·cnin g.
City An~· Bro1 1.m:m st :n cd we \\ill be se llin g a closi ng wi lh Mr Flynn with 1he Hi s1o ri c.,1 Society and
wnh lfue Englcv.ood Hous ang AuLhonty as wc,1.
Mayot1 Bums advised that the Housi ng Au1hori1y has a project. nn A VS project lh cy woul d like to use on
one of those lots th ey are gettin g. So 1hcy wouldju s1 like 10 l\:1,c th e closing so 1hcy c;m mo,·c ahc.1d \\i lh
these i.:1ds. "ho arc no" back in sc hoo l and need to ge 1 staned.
Council Member Waggoncr s1:11cd t..h.1t he 1hough1 some of1 he peopl e III the au di ence 1111gh t be wonde rin g
"hatchc) did on 1hc mon~ propcn~. He suggested Ma)o r Bums C\'p l:un to 1hcm th:11 th ere will nol be a
pubhc hc:inng.. th.it the issue. nght no,,. is dead .
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Mayor Bums explnlned that IVjllt tlw, yo!~ of lite CqwK,I ,...,. IAOl'll"'!l',,tl1at ,it i• 1)111 pn •~ri•~ Pup 11
use, tl•ore wllJ not be a public hcarin& set and the ordi....,.;:e" IIOI p;wcd on first reading. therefore Ibis
ilcm is dead ns of the present time.
(c) Rl.'solulions and Motions
n1crc were 110 addi 1ionnl rcM>lutions or motions submitted for approva l. (Sec Agenda Item JO -Consent
Agenda)
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(a) Mayo~, Choice
(i) Mayor Bums advised we ha,c a Tau Talk on ll1ursday mght at Bates Logan
Park and he encouraged everyone to go .
(ii) Mayor Bum, noted they wtll hil.,.-e IDIDC more discussion in a bit on tJ1c lwK:h
meeting tlmt l:c a,;;t Gary Scars hnd •;lit RTD on Wcdncsby. it was an c.stmncly positive lunch.
(iii) Mayor Bums said he hoped ,i.n, the ncig),bori1ood ot Clarkson wall contact
Nancy Peterson and do 10111e Neighborhood Watch "ork.. He "'id be lms a feeling tliat tllCIC on-ccnain
demons in the neighborhood that they need to idcJUify. who.arc c:iusing some of their problems . He said be
hopes they cnu get some relief on that
(b) Co unc il Mc,nbcr's Choice
(il Co11ncil Member Nabholz .
I. She said she 1hought she had c.xplaincd. in regard 110 Gcncra.J Iron Works. that lhal 1s und· r
co111mc1 with Barton Supply .
2. She advised lh,11 she lefl a mcss.1ge for Chris D:uuds ... shc s1oppcc.J 111111 and talked with Dan
Brotzman aboul him using the parking lol 0\er here to U1C asr. oft.he Librill) for a Fanucr's M'lfkel. She
noted she has had more calls for a Farmer's Mark.:L bcc11.1s: of the bumper cro p offruit and all this year.
However . th.it being a lo! that is owned by Swal'.o,, Hill. b&: al one point in time seemed real open to us
us111 g th;-it So . she sai d, they hnvc been pl.l)IIIM phone tlg Ollck and fo r1h as 10 possibly using thnt this
summer on Sa turday's or Tuesd ;1y's or wh;IIC\er, from 7 ~00 .aJn. 10 2:00 p.m So tl1.11. she said. is in the
works
She said she ;-ipp rec1a ted lhe Ncighbo rh ~ W:ucb pot Jud, mee ting las1 ,,eek .. tliat was
wonderful.
4. She ;id\'iscd she :1 lso :111endcd a plann ing sess ion.~ 1s C:Ulcd face II . TI,cre ,,iii be a su mmit on
l1m11cl css ncs.'i in ,,es1e rn Ar.1pah oc County . She s:ud she \WOUid highly urge a ll ofCou nc1l 10 pan1cipatc
and if they ca n '1 suppon ii ph )si call ~, she would be glad to lbc that \'01cc TI1e~ ha'-'e asked for ci ty
allomey's. direc tor's of police .u1d fire audit \\ill be Oc1obL~ 1411 a1 Sheridan Hi gh Sc hool . 111c mumJ lh,1t
is currently at the County building 1s or aciu:il homel ess fauntlics
Ma~rr Bums noted that the Hous mg A111hor11, ,,as mac.le .i.~-an: oftlus :1 1 thc la s! meeting .
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Coor.ell Member Nabholi adviled lhat Jane, Grinunel! called her and she wns 1·el) instrumental and she
applauded her for pulling all of Utcte people tos<thcr. TIIC)' olso hnvc someone from South Subwban and,
she sald. she will try to get somebody from Parks and Rccrcn1io11.
5. She tlutnked Joyce Pnrscins . She said she pul II call in 10<tny in n:gard 10 a problem on Acoma and
she hnd an answer wilhin a two hour timcframc. So she applauded that.
(ii) Council Member Bradshnw :
I. She said on the 4300 and 441Ml blocks or Logan . from Logan to Clarkson. scents 10 be a gathering
pince for young people, not fro,,. our area. from Denver and all over. wilh a lot of 1u1Supcrvised youU1 on
the streets after midnight and there is speeding. Ms. Bradshaw wondered if some of 1hat vandalism isn't a
n:sull of UIOIC young people ir •veling 10 and from , since tltat is Ute 4100 block of South Clarkson . Sbc
staled tltal laM weekend wash< rriblc,jus1 horrible ... il was nlmost like a riol. She said she was at a picnic
al n rricnd's house nnd she felt ii w;is so c;c;:uy . She said she just tlUnk.s tJL.11 needs to be adcirc:5sxl.
2. She ndv1scd she wus nskcd by one of the high r.chool students if Cil)· Council \\OUld be interested
an uakrn~ out 1U1 ad in the yearbook . She said she thinks 1ha1 would be son of a good use of Council's
money , a hulf pngc 11d or somcthin& like thm.
She said she dodn't know how Cou · .,I felt about th.iL but UIC)' do have money in Aid 10 OUicr Agencies
and site UIC uchl u.-1 would nlso show S1udcn1S we arc supporting 1ha1. Slic asked how they should do iL
City Mnn,11cr Sc.in advised they can do ii by motion or jus1 direct him 10 1akc that account and wortc with
ii. Council Member Bradsltaw said okay and Cow1cil concurn:d . She advised him Umt Jud y Cox is Ute
sponsor DI tloc high school .
J . She wd dwt one of Ilic 1c:1cl1crs from Bishop wns telling her how tJ1cy arc. apparently, losing
people out of 1ha1 nei ghborhood. who move into different houses and tJ1in gs like 1.ha1. And 1ha1. she noted.
is reaJly a cono:m they hnvc. thnt tJM:rc 1111gh1 be too man y rentals . Ms . Brndsh:I\\ smd she 1old her there
arc ocher ahcmativcs for some familie s. She said she gave a heads up 10 1he Housin g Authori1y that lJM:re
arc Project Bwld hou .cs nnd tlungs Hkc 1ha1. tJ1..11 people might nol know nboul. because 1hey arc not in that
loop . So Englewood Hous ing Au1hon1y is going 10 be :,sked 10 ltll'C a 13ble a1 B,shop Back to School
Night Ms . BCMishaw snid she though! th,11 was n good way 10 deal with ii.
4. She Bskcd whal happened m Sheridan . Director Simpson :idviscd that Sheridan Ci1y Council
considered the c.~mption tonight nmJ 1l1cy did deny it ... 7-0. 1l1cy indicated 111..11 there was not sufficient
cri1cria 10 g.ranf II under an wlduc h,1rdsl11p rmd th.it ii did affect public intcrcsl. He said Ili c imponan1 thing
to no1c is 1l1..11 1s wa s denied as an e~c111p11011. but they will s1ill move fon,;ird on a PU D So the ap pl icmion
for rc1..0ning u,ill come fonrnrd nnd we will 11..wc lo consider how 1h01 mo ves. \\e mll mo1111or tJiat and we
will dcfini1cly hnvc to go and 0gl11 and speak ag:unst II i111cs1i111ony . Cow1c1I Member Brad sl~w stated
they ilrc more t.11:111 willing 10 do th:11 She thnnkcd Direc1or Simpson.
(111 ) Cou ncil Me111lk:r Clapp sa id 1ha1 :i s she looked thr oug h lur packet based on the
co n,crs.1 11 011 1..h~ had 1111hc la st S111d) Scss 1011 . 1ha1 she ,,as u11ckr 1hc 1111prc~s 10111h.:.1 Go\'crnor Roy
Romer was Ill\ lied 10 lea d Ilic p;iradc through the Par.1de Co 111111 i11cc and there \\J.5 110 1 a r.onscnsus vote of
Council t.akcn. Ms . Clapp stnled she \\ii~ 1 l111le taken IJ.1 ck by 1l11 s le tt er 111.al has aJI of Co U11C1l 's names on
11 and is on Council's lct1crh c:1 d. when ,;he 1or one would defini1 ely 1101 su ppon lha t He 1s dcfin.:1c1 y not
so mebody she "ould look :11 :ts a role l".X lcl. she smd
Ma~or Bum s .1d\1 SC d 1h,11 GO\e mor Romer h:,s alrcmJ ) dc1.l11u.:d all)\\il). as he 1s not gomg to be available..
Mayor Bunl!" explained llt:il he contn ch.:lJ Ak, ll:1hc111ch1 and s.1,d he undersl ood tile Parad e Conunin cc
woul d like Go\Cmor Romer 10 sc "t nmJ :l(;k ed 11 she 110111d lik e fo r hun to 11n1c a leller on beha lf of th e
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c:ommilloe . He was 1old yes and III May• a..m. ,.·rote U,c lcncr. Mayor Burn, aa, cd ho •uldmtuod Ma .
Clnpp'spoinc bul IMI ao..mo, -•dechncd. he if. DOI l/,li~~lol:ic in !lie PJ .llde .
Council Member Oapp commcrucd I.baa il.P''C lklt imprcssu,n and she. ~ttt.inly dl,1n't 1~n •• o B~
wrapped up In lhal .
Council Member Nabholz advised lhat slr:wo dtd nol appro\'e of C',ovemor Rom :r being grand manhnl .
She said she lhoughl in ti,c p.151 we have -.cn:d away from polilicu heads Md evidently Uml hns now
changed . She said ii is h :r own pc,soaal lllj>IIUOn U"u U1e i •cor, Auslin Gomes gave 10 1hn1 parade
nsooci>1lon .. , at she s,.es no pobl.,. widlMr. Gomes being lhe gmnd manhal. She poin1cdou1 U"u he
worlccd very hm;t for •,_ y..,., let him lie gJ2Dd marshal .
Council Member Bmckhaw Dido .. tbc 111111 a ·,ggcs1cd a political person. Bcuy AM Dittrmorc. for her
service on lhe Slalc and Arapahoe c....,. ie.-.t. as a poss1bili1 r 100. Bcc:lus<. she opined . thal wo11ld be a
nice w.iy ro 1lonk someone and her~ iln'? ,-~· good right now.
Council Member Habenidu adviscJ U•••* will take oil of those names 10 the Pnmdc Com1r<nce .
Council Member Cla pp said she would JU!S1 cauti on U,11 in 1hc past we have stayed away from political
figures. for obvious ICISOns. She Sl:llal ,h: tlunks thnt ts a good policy and we should continue it Even
Belly AM Diuemon:. Council Member -asked. Ms . Clapp said she U1inks so. thal she lhinltJ they
would be opening lhe door and if you -lbc door, you open U1c doe<.
Council Member Habcnichr said she jug •.wed !o sa~ somc1hing. h'wing served on the Parade Committee
for 3 number of yea rs. as tJ1c Council ~uu,·c on l11e Parade Comntincc for 1he last six or seven yean
:u lc,151 and knowing a lot of pc0l who ha\ c g.1,·cn :i lot of timt" ,md effon 10 the p:trnde . She nolcd that
the polilic;1,J picct. just 10 clarify thal. th.a Ule P:lradc Co mmiucc still has a sense that this is not to be 11
political parnde. She advised tha1 dccislc,a was base d on 11hcU1cr or not people could campaign in the
parndc. like having one of the c:indid:u<sb-e a noa, in U1c parade . as 1hcy do in Wcs1cm Welcome Wecil .
E.1ch year it is rcvisi1cd and r: has bccll SITOllgl) fel l. b) Ute Parade Committee. 11.u 1hcy have statcd U1cy
do 1101 want to be po li tical . But as Ca, "5hi\'Ulg political people involved or who you arc going 10 ha,'C as
grand marsh:11 a.ncl wls11 have you. ia lhl<past \\e ha\'C had all of the mayor.; who hove SCl\'Cd in me City of
Englewood and Uicre has been ra:ognillcn of people who arc in off ICC nnd. die pointed oul . we have
,1Jw:1ys. tr.1d111 011.1l1y ... and she fell Ann N;ib holz could \'erify this ... invitcd our st.11e scn:nor. our stale
rc prcscn mtives. "hich Lauri Clapp magla be one some cL1y. and our RTD rep. 10 be in ll1c parade . Tit.11 . she
slated, h.1s been continml \\it.bin the tr:lllnioo of thlll par.idc and no one has eyer questioned it un1il just
now.
Council Member Clapp staled th:H m II~ of some of tl1c things 1h,11 lli1ve taken pl:tcc \\ithin the public
pre ss. 1h,11 she felt II was highly U13ppCCilrt3CC . thnt i11d1v1dual . And. she s.1id. she docs not bcliC\'C lhal if
thnl person \\Cre n01 go\'ernor tha1 pcss;m 'A Du Id ha\ e C\ er been invited. She said let us not forget t11 e fnct
thai he ;ilso hca<Js up the Na11on.1l OcmL'"tCr.lUC Pan~. he 1s he.id or it Co un cil Member Bradslli1w s.iid th,11
she undcrst:md .i th.11
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I COUNCIL MEMBER WAGGONER MOVED, ANO IT WAS SECONDED, TO GO INTO
EXECUTIVE SESSION RIGHT AFTER THE MHTING.
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2. He said 1hm. 111 the report on the project stams for tl1c dc\'clopmcnt plan. he noticed <Iowa dterc on
the on•going project maintenance nnd operation th.it they were talkins about t.hc common area fflllliacnanoe
agrccmcnl. But they referred 10 jus1 a common nrcn nnd he wns nol sure lh,11 will suffice, in his mad. He
opined II should Include. not onJy the common arcr.s. but something should address the buildin~ 1a make
sure nil of the buildinJjS stny in good repair. He 1101cd that he is 1101 swc how we should address er... bua he
jus1 1hough1 ii should be pan of 1hc o,,cmll plan 10 mnkc sure u,,1 tl1e buildings slay in good repau . in
:u.ldi1io1110 tl1c common nrcas .
(v) Council Member Habenicht:
I. She noted there was a comment about the property al Danmouth and University having ;r b of
weeds and thisllcs 111:11 blow in10 people's yards . She said she just thought m.1ybc somebody should take
note ofthnt.
2. She said she just wal\lL-d 10 indic:llc thal she h.id a cnll from a ci1i 1.cn who had occasion to ba\'c 10
cnll lhc graffiti ho1linc and shcjus1 wn111 ed 10 call to say 1h.11 she \\:lS \'cry unpressed and pleased •llh the
response 1h.1t she go· Ms . Habc11ich1 s:ud !ihc just want~ to pass tli.:u on.
3. She sai •e JUSI w.uucd 10 share, as they were mlking nbou1 partisan sluff wi1h the paadlC. 1llal the
p.,rnde is supp() .J to be whole bunches or run and she just wanted to 1n.1kc sure 1hm it cominucs.mb: tba1.
Also, she w:w· to sl'.arc, for the record. Iha! the person on the Parade Commillcc , who offered lb:' mmc
of the go\·crr 10 be IJ1c gmnd marshal. is n gcrulcman who ran ns a Rcpublicau for the Distria 3 p:!Sition .
He is a Rep• :can and has been a Republican candidate and he felt th.it tl~s wns beyond partisan politics.
Council Mr ,bcr Habenicht said she wanl!..-d 10 share that on behalf of the c,rnunillcc and on behalf of Mr.
Bc.1ver. wl·.v was a fine candidate for the Hous '""istric1 3.
13 . City ManaJ..,cr's Rc11ort
(n) City Mnnager Scars said he wa s advised Fnd.1 y :1ftcrnoo n 1ha1 Paulcua PWlcercJ.5 ihad a
health ). hap p~ baby He s.11d he was in vo lved \1t1h th e llC\\S med ia al the tune and he foiled 10 find ou11f
she had a girl or boy Coun cil ad\"iscd th.1t she had ;1 gi rl
14 . Cily Anorncy's Report
Cuy A11ome) Brot zman did not !\!Ive any maners 10 bn11 g be for e Coun cil
15 . Adjournmcnl
The 111ee 1111 g :tdJo umcd at &·-n p.m .
