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INGL&WOOD CJTY COUNCll.
INGLIWOOD, ilAP,\JIOI COUNTY, COLORADO
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May JI,'"'
I. Calllo Onkr
The n:gwar ~I oflllc Enaia.'OOd Clly CGUllCil,.. called to order by Mayor Bwns at 7:35 p.m.
2. la~
The i.avocalion •u gi,,:n by Couucil Mcmbct Wi&lins.
3. Pledp, of All<tlante
The Pledge ol All<giana: \W led by Mayor Bums.
4. Roll Call
Abocnt:
Council Mcmbtrs llalha•'IY, Clapp, Wiggins. Vormittaa. Wagoner,
Bums
Couacil Manb<r Hlbcnichl
A quorwn "-as pn:sent .
Also pn:scnt: City Mafll&C' Clark
Cit)' Anon,cy Blotzman
AssiSWII to tho Cit)• Manager Grace
City Ciak Ellis
Dir?Ctor Esterly, Public Works
Din:dor Gryglcwic:z, Financial Services
Ncighborl-i Community Coordinator Graham
(a ) COUNCIi MEMBlcR WIGGINS MOVED , AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO
APPROVE THE MINUT! S OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF MAY 6, 1996,
Motion carried.
Ayes : Council Members Hatha,.~y, Vormiua&, Wiggins, Waggoner. Clapp,
Bums
Nays: None
Absent: Council Member Habenicht
6. Sckdul<d Visiton
(a) Mayor Bums. on b<halfofthc Clean , Green and Proud Commission, honon:d Waste
Management or Colorado for its sponsorship and assiSlanCC with the 199S Good Neighbor Days. He s,Jd
that Waste Management has sponson:d and olTcn:d assistance with Good Neighbor Days since 1993 .
Their 199S donation of tripping fees totaling SI0.000, allowed Englewood n:sidcnts to dispose of
accumu lated trash fn:c of charge .
Clean. OICICII 111d Proud Commlulon Cbainaan Ann Nabhol2. .. bellllf of lhc Cammillllan. Nied lhal
Wutc Manlgancat is wry pntrOUS. They eo llboYc llld beyond tllelr donation ofSI0,000 by pt<Mdlng
at lcall six em;,' IO bdp flcillllle tho Good Neighbor Days. She aid lhc memben of !he
Commission hop<. , conlinuc lhc rdalionlhlp belMOD lhc Commisliion and lhc City. She oommented
lhal tho Commission appnciates lhc commitment of Wutc Manqanent.
Mayor Bums p,escnted tllC plaque lo Dean Vander Bun. President ol Waste Mlnagemenl
(b) Mayor Bums, on behalf of tho Clean, Green 111d Proud Commlllion. honcnd lhc
Saf01y-Kleen Corporation. for its sponsorship oland wiaance with Houaehold Hazardous Wute Drop,<llf
Days 1995. He noled he would be ,.....nting a plaque 10 Greg Galllghcr. SafOly-Kleen Bnmcll MaMger
and Lisa Lacey, Wes1em Division Public Alfain Manaaer of Safely-Kleen. He llllCld 1h11 Safely-Kleen
bdped to ooUea and dispoR of mon: lhan 1800 pllons of uocd oil. point 111d aolYOIIII. dropped off by
City residents. Mayor Bums DOied that thtir commitment 10 tho OdYiroamcntal inlegrity of tho
community is gratly apprecilled .
Clean. G~n and Proud c.»nmi.::on Chainnan Ann Nabholz llallld lhat tho Commission app,eclates lhe
in-kind donation f,om Safe1y-Klcen for last year's Household H.uanlous Waste Orop,df. She commented
that they realize tho ,-atue is 1"ell O\'O.r SO\'Ollll lhousand dollan and lhc project would 1101 htr\'O been able
1.0 continue to go on 'l\ithout their help. She pointed 001 that Ibis year we.,. facing an interating
challenge because ,.,. do no1 ha\'C access 10 tho same in-land soun:es. Ms. Nabholz said Iha! although
they hope that Safely-Kleen will continue 10 be genclOUS with their mppon ii is clear we •ill ha\'O to find
additional financial resoun:a to subsidize this project . She noted 1h11 she is optimistic that additional
funding will be allocated and if appropriately phmncd lhc Household Hazardous Wam l>rop,aff will •
proceed more diiciently and less expensi,,. lhan in past years. Ms. Nabholz pointed out that this is a
community project that sa,i:.1 ,c City and its residents ttnS of thousands of dollan, by finding a proper
source of diiposal fo r hazadws lM special household Wasle. She Slid. ,.;th that in mind . she encowages
th e City lo help the Clean. Green and Probd Commission to find CX!lllinuing suppon of this highly
suc:ccssful program. On behalf of the Commission she thanked Safdy-Kleen .
On behalf of Saf01y-Kleen , Mr. Gallagher acx:epted the plaque from Mayor Bums. He said they appreciat e
the aw.rd and look forward 10 panncring "ith tho City of Englewood in the future . Mr. Gallagher said
!hot bein g the world 's largest recycler ofliquid hazsrdous waste. the)• are proud 10 continue the recycling
program with Ilic City ofEngl""ood and its residents . Mr. Gallagher advised that IIIO)' have a
presentation. from their Manager of Corporate Public Affairs Lisa Lacey, for the City of Englewood and
the Clean Green and Proud Commission.
Ms . Lacey, on behalf of Safely-Kleen Corporation. presented 10 Ma)'Or Bums, her company's
Environmental Excellence Award for Cities. She pointed out tha1 Englewood is the second city in tho
mtion to recei\'e this award. Ms. l..acey read the text of1he award in its entirety . She thanked the Mayor
for !he City 's outstanding program . Ma)'Or Bums thanked Ms. Lacey and offered appreciatio n on behalf
oftllc /'.:ity. ·
(c) Mayor Bums, on behalfofthe Clean. Green and Proud Com.mission. recognized
Englewood fi refighters Miles Kubly and Marie Slout for their invaluable assistance with the 1995
Household Hazardous Waste Drop-off Days. He staled that their knowledge and expcnise have made
them a great asset to the City . He tllllllked all of the firefighters who participated in this progmn.
Clean. Green and Proud Commission Chainnan Ann Nabholz thanked Mr. Kubly for his silver tennis
shoes and fo r keeping the Commission 1ight. •
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Mayor Bums p,aented MlJCI Kubly •'illl * cen.illc:ale. 1'llid lie 111d in run . lie offered CGuncU ·,
appr:-tiation and thanked Mr. Kubler for lais work.
Clan. Gr=t and Proud Commialon Cllalnaan Ami Nabllolz llllnked Mr. Slooll beca111e she aid he
keeps e,,ayonc in line at the paint drop-<lff point SIie aid thal in l'acl he pcnoaally makes them Jump
into the dumpslm if they throw in the wnina cans.
Mayor Bums pracn~ Marl< Stoot wtlh the ccrtiflcate, w'1ich be raid in 11,JI, lie Nl'ered Council's
appreciation and thanu to Mr. Stool
(d) See Agenda !tun 6 (b).
Mayor Bums commented that Council really appreciates the dfons on behalf a( the recycling process in
Englewood. He gid he hopes the eff'on continues and thal be bas a couple of paint cans l,c would like to
get rid of.
7. Noo-tchedule:! Vllito11
(a) Gary Kozacd<. 1260 West Oxfbnl. aid he is rcpttSenting \lie Englewood Yooth
FOOlball Association (EYF A). which is a youth orpnimion that luaeation dropped last year. He
advised that a new non-profit organization has been ro.-4 and be is the IC'. ,,1 commissioner of that
board . He explained to Council that the Color.ado Wildcau an: doing a bcndit p,nc to bcoellt the EYF A
on Saturday. Due to ·.:ic tcaguc r<quircmtnl<. an \MT-be present during the pme and Mr. KoZICdt
asked if the City could ha-l·e their pa......tics preocal iuing the pmc. He lllid if they have to go 001 on
call they go out on call, just as they do di-ring high IIChool p-.s. He advised that 1,.cy will have a lnlincr
oo the sidcl incs as well . Mr. Kozacck DOied that Englewood Public Schools donated the field , the refer=
bl\'C donated their time and the only cxpcmc left is having an EMT p,aent during the pmc. He asked
the Council if they could sec fit to have a pamncdic ,quad 0\-ailabie, as they arc already on duty, during
the evening hours from 7:00 p.m. to approximately 9:00 p.ir,. on Satwday C\'Cning.
(b) Tonda Gatewood. 1015 West Stanford P11cc, 5tlted lhllt she is a licensed daycare
prmi der in the R-1-A zone district anJ that she is not allowed to ha\-c a home occupation in that district .
She noted she is a si ngle motl,cr oftluec children. ages 14, 7 and J . Ms. Gatewood advised that this is
how she maltcs her ihi ng. She said she had a dispute .,.;th her neighbor who docs not like chilchen IJld
the neighbor called the polioc on her children three times last ycar . She explained that this happened on
May 14~ when the ncighbo. threw a rodt over her fcoce, they got into a dispu1e. The neighbor called the
City and now. she said . the c,, is IJ)ing to close her down as of May 31". Ms. Gatewood stated that she
owns her home, her parents have helped her and that her Dad worlced for the EnglC'MlOd Fire Deparuncnt
for 22 )'CVS. She sai d she would l'C3lly like to keep her license as this is how she makes a li,ing to
suppon her kids and home. Ms. Ga1ewood submilted letters, for the record. fro1o 1 her mothers, fathers and
neighbors. She commented that she woold really appRCiate it if Council I\Otlld raid the letters and
conside r her request .
8. Communications, Prodamatiolls and Appoiatmenb
(a) COUNCIL MEMBER HATHAWAY MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO
ACCEPT R REGRET JEAN M. CRRISTMAN'S LETl'ER OF RESIGNATION t'ROM 11JE
BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND APPEALS.
Ayes:
Nays :
AblctA:
Motion c:anied.
Council Mcmbas Halbaway, Vomunag. Wiuins. w,_,,._, Clapp,
Bwu
Nooe
Council Manbor Habeftlchl
Council Member Hathrqy urged that Council look II maltin& IIIIC they include tlai1 with lllc )IIIIO 24•
interviews. Sh pointed OUI that the Board of Adjmamcnt and Appeals bu I hlld time opcntina even
short one men r. Mayor Bums commcated that they need I pretty good votiaa lllalglh OD 1h11 board to
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9. hblic Burill1
No public bearing was scheduled before Council .
10. Coucat AlfNA
Cow ,cil Member Ha1hav.11J• Slalcd that she ,.;11 lbswn from ,·oting on Agenda Item IO (a) (i) regarding
the Concrete Rcp~rncm District No. 1995 b:ausc she is in th< di'1rict .
~OUNCIL MEMBER WIGGINo MOVID, AN D IT WAS S£CONDF.:•, TO APPROVE
~NSENT AGENDA ITEMS 10 (1) (i) ON nRST READl:'IG.
(a) Appro,1e on Fint Rading
(i) COUNCIL Bill. NO. 29 , INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMllE ~
WIGGINS
A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE APPROVING 1llE WHOLE COST OF 1llE IMPROVEMENTS MADE
WinnN CONCRETE REPLACEMENT DIS11UC'7 'lO. 1995 IN TilE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD,
COLORADO: APPROVING AND CONFIRMING 1 . .E APPORTIONMEITT OF 1llE COST TO EAO!
LOT OR TRACT OF LAND IN SAID DISTRICT: ASSESSING A SHARE OF 1llE COST AGAINST
EACH LOT OR 'TRACT OF LAND : AND PRESCRIBING 1llE MANNER FOR 1llE COLLECTION
AND PAYMENT OF 1llE ASSESSMENTS .
Vote realU:
Mot.ion carried.
Ayes:
Nay5:
AtoSlain :
Absenl :
Council Meml>cts Vom.sllag, Wiggii.<. Waggoner, Clapp, Bums
None
Council Member Hathaway
Council Member Haben icht
Council Member Hathn-ay commented that she happens to own property incl uded in the distri ct and so
th erefore :1 might be peroe.ivcd as a conflicl of interest
In response to Counct l Member Waggoner . City Anorncy Brotzman advised that Council BiU No. 29 scts
the public hearing forluly I . 19%.
COUNCIL MEMBER WIGGIN5 MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO APPROVE
CONSENT AGENDA IIlMS 10 (b) (i), (i i), (iii) and(i,•) ON SECOND READ!NG .
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(b) ,\ppnM OD recond Radi~I
(I) ORDINANCE 1¥J. 19, SERIES Cl' 1996 (OOUNCIL Bll.L NO. 21,
INTRODUCED BY COUNcn. MEMBER WIGGINS)
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING 'ITll.E J, CHAPTER IN, SECTION 9, OF 1llE ENGLEWOOD
MUNICIPAL CODE 1985 CONCr...NING DISCIPLINJ RY APPEALS .
(ii) ORDIN,'NCE NO. 20, SElllES OF 1996 (COUNCn. Bll.L NO. 24,
INTRi>DUCEl> BY COUNCll. MEMBER HA 1llA WAY)
AN ORDINA.'ICE AUTllORIZINO AN INTl!RGOVl!RNMENT AL AGREEMENT BETWEEN 1llE
UNTIT •, t'fATES L3PARTMENT Of lllE INreRIOR Gl!(1001CAL SURVEY AND 1llE CITY OF
ENGLEWOOD. C')L()IU.00 EN1Tll.ED '"DEPARTMENT OF 1llE INreRIOR GEOLOGICAL
SURVEY JOINT FIJNDIJ'IG AGREEMENT FOR WATER RESOURCES INVESllGATIONS."
(iii) ORDINANCE NO. 21. SERIES OF 1996 (COUNCn. B0J. NO . 25 .
INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WAGGONER)
AN ORDINANCE PROHIBITING 1llE POSSESSION OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS BY MINORS IN
1llE CITI OF ENGLEWOOD. COLORADO IIY AMENDING 'ITll.E 7, CHAPTER 6E. OF 1llE
ENGLEWOOD MUNICIPAL CODE wrm 1llE ADDmON OF A NEW SECTION a, ENl111.EI)
ILLEGAL POSSESSION OR CONSUMPTION OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS BY AN UNDERAGE
PERSON.
(iv) ORDINANCE NO. 22, SERIES OF 1996 (COUNCIL Bll.L NO. 27 .
INTRODUCED BY COUNCll. MEMBER HAlllA WAY)
AN ORDINANCE AITTHORIZING AN INIERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT BElWEEN 1llE
CITI OF lllORNTON . COLORADO AND 1llE CITI OF ENGLEWOOD. COLORADO FOR AN
EXCHANGE OF 1llE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD 'S ROTOMILLING SERVICES TO 1llE CITI OF
lllORNrON IN RETIJRN FOR SAND/SALT. HOT MIXED ASPHALT. OR CRUSHED AGGREGATE
MATERIALS .
VOie rcsulU:
Motion carried .
Ayes : Council Mer .hers Halhaway, Vorminag. Wiggins. Waggoner. Clapp,
Bums
Nays: None
Absen t Council Member Habcn ichl
11 . Ordinances, Resolutions ind Motion s
(a) Approve on First Reading
(i) Director Esterly presented a ru:ommcndatlon from tl1c Department of Parks
and Recreation 10 approve. by motion. a construt1ion contract in tl1c amount of $42 ,941 .00 to U.S.
O.,ntractors for Ccnlenn iaJ Lake 66" S1orm sewer Outfall Rchabililalion Project . He said 1bcy arc
-IDCIIClln/( lhc low bidder U $. ~ for lhc bw coalllet llllOUDI ph& Ille-. 111111 wu
pn,pooed. which bu 10 do witll bow lhc mMaial wu dl.,..i olhm lhil CXCIVlliaa.
COUNCIL MEMBER BA TBA WAY MOVl:D, AND IT WAS 51.CONllED, TO Al'PllOVI: A
CONSTRUCTION CONTIIACT IN TRI AMOUNT or Ul,Hl.00 · ,'.O U.S. CONTIIACTORS,
INC FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF "CENTINNLU. LAU"" STOIM SEWL"'! OUTFALL
REIVJIILITA TION PROJECT."
Motion carried.
Ayes : Couacil Membol1 Halhaway, Vormlnaa, Wigias, Wauo,,cr, CIIA>,
Bums
Nays: None
Absent Council Member illllcnlcbl
(ii) DilerlOr Clfypcwicz .,,__. ,uollllll<lldalion m1111 lhc Dq,utmcal ol
Fi,w,cial !;emces 10 adopl,. bill for an ordl....,. Cllablishing a lcmporary suspomioD,. _.arium ol
ccnain miscella,-,s ~ licenses for a period cl six mooths. He said. u was dm:aad II lhc May
6. 1996 Sludy Session. tllis ordlnano,,-.id esublish a monlorium on mlscella,-is bmiD:a liccma
under Title 5 of the Municipal Code. Mr. Gryglewicz explained lhal ii ..-ould basically put • monaorium
on all bul a few of the licenses • mainly liquor, Goi11g Out cl Business, Chrislmas u.,e dealen for I period
of6 montlls.
The Ciiy C1cr1t was asked 10 rad Council Bill No. 21 b)· title :
COUNCIL BILL NO. 28, INll\ODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CLAPP
A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A TEMPORARY SUSPENSION OR MORATORIUM •
OF CERT A1N MISCEU.ANEOUS BUSINESS LICENSES FOR A PERIOD OF SIX MON1l!S.
COUNCIL MEMBER CJ.APP MOVED, AND IT WAS SECONDED, TO APPROVE AGENDA
ITEIII 11 (a) (ii)-COUNCIL BILL NO. 21.
Ayes : Council Members Hathaway, Vonni11a3, Wiggins. Wauoner. Clapp.
Bums
Nays : None
Absent Council Member Habenichl
Motion carried .
(iii) Neigh.,,rhood Communil)' Coordina1or Graham prcscnled • rmmunenda.tion
from the Offi ce of Neighborhood and Business Dcvelopmcnl 10 adopl a bill for an ordinance approving
proposed amc ndmenlS to the Comp~hcnsi,-. Zoning Ordinance ~lative 10 Planned Unit Development.
He ami sed lhal the only changes in tllis = the addition ofa n,qui~ meeting prior to• formal
application and some procedures including how the notification is to occur.
Mayor Burns comme nted lhat those were discussed the la.st time this maner came before Council. Mr.
Graham said lhal is right.
The Cily Clerk was asked to read Council Bill No. 19 by title :
COUNCIL BILL NO . 19, INI"RODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HATHAWAY
A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE REPEALING TJTI.E 16, CHAPTER 4, SECTION IS . ENTJ11.ED
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DI STRICT OF THE ENGLEWOOD MUNICIPAL CODE 1985 AND •
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ENACTING A NEW TITLE 16, OW"Tl!R 4. SECTION U, EJlrtTn.ED PLANNED UNIT
DEVELOPMENT ZONE DIS11UCT.
COUNCU. MDOIEII HATHAWAY MOYD, /JID rr WAS SICONDID, TO APPROVE
AGENDA JTIM 11 (->(Ill)· COUNCU. IILI. NO, It UINTilODUCID WITH TRI PROPOSED
AMENDMI.NTS ON FIJI.ST READING.
Motion carried.
Ayes: Council Mcmben Hldllwly, Vonnittq, Wlr&ins, W111oner, Clipp,
Bums
No.ys : None
Absent : Council Manber lllbenichl
(b) ApplO\-c on Sa:ond Radin&
(i) ORDINANCE NO. 23. SERIES OF 1996 (COUNCIL Bll.L NO . 26 .
INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HABENJOIT)
AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AND AtmlORJZING THI! EXECUTION OF
INTERGOVERNMENTAL SUBORANTEE AGREEMENTS FOR THE 1996 ARAPAHOE COUNTY
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM COITTJNUING RESOLl!l1ON
AJNDING BElWEEN THI! ARAPAHOE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THI! CITY
OF ENGLEWOOD .
COUNCIL MEMBER BA TBA WAY MOvt.D, AND rr WAS SECONDED, TO APPROVE ON
SECOND llADING AGENDA ITEM NO. 11 (b) (i) • COUNCIL BILL NO. 26 REGARDING
THE 1996 ARAPAHOE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM.
Mayor Bums aal<d lhat he will abstain from ,'Oling on this issue b<cause of his position o( Chairman of
lhc Housing Aulbori1y. as this is vc,y much inlcg,aled in lhc Housing Au1horilies plan .
Ayes:
Nai~:
Abstain :
Abscn1 :
Motion carried.
12. General Disc:llSliOD
(a) Mayo~s Choice
Council Members Hllhaway. Vonninag. Wi&&ins. Waggoner. Clapp
None
Mayor Bums
Council Member Habcnich1
I. Mayor Bums said he wan1ed to ru:ognize lhat sina: Council had their last regular meeting \\-C
have had lhc signing oflhc full funding grant agr-ccmcal for lhc extensio n of lhe southwest rail line
through the southwest conidor. He said Ibey bad lhc pleasure of attending that with a member of the
Prcsident"s cabinet• Sccmary ofTransponalion Federico Pella wbo came to l)cn,-cr for 1hat ceremony.
Mr. Pella reminded C\-.ryonc lhat this is contract to build lhc line in incrcmcnls, lha1 the funding has to
come from Congress each year dunng construction and lhat we have to be diligen~ pressing tlic Congress
for the continued funding . Mayor Bums said Ibey plan to do lhal . He comrncnled lhal he was hoping
they wouldn 't have to 1r.wel to Washington C\'CI)' year, but he said he would guess thal the tm-cl is nol
ove r .
l . Mayor !.larlll llll<d 11111 be 111d Ille plcuu,e of Ulllalllq AUllla Gomes• Citma of the Yoar on
May ll".
J . Ma)'" Bumi IIOlal 11111 the Cir)' llad the lint public ronua ror Cindcrdll Ci1y IMI -and tho
next ODO is Wodaolday iu,111111 EacJcwmd Hl&h School . lie l t Jd they tpln -.. c:ilbml to oome .
He commenlod that he thoupt the cidzms pa,tlc:ipolod verj•...O ia die lint one rA be ........ they
ICIUIII)' cqjoycd IL Mayor Bumi llllal 11111 they look rorwan1 ID the llCXI a-i.a ...... ....,.
4. Mayor B111111 lldvilod 1h11 be recciYod I call II home thiJ 'MCkcnd, while be Ml out or town.
rrom tho sup-brother of Mike Sjunlanl He italed that Ml. Sjwdeml was tho lildlpter who
wuonuna1dy lost his life ia III accident• home. Mayorlluml aid that he bam't talbd to the stq>-
brothor )et. 1h11 he plMI to call him. However, be adviaod, tho llq)-l,rothor Wlllled to Id CQIDdl know
how much the family ljlpfOCiltcd everything 1he Ciiy had doae ror tho wnily in m:ognilion or this
tragedy and thal tho Cily had done I lint dwjob olworkin& widl the famil y.
(b) Council Member's Choice
(i) Council Member Vormiuag asked if Cily Manager Clari< would 11ke care or
Guy Kozac:tk 's request reguding ponmodia. Mr. Cl1rt uid he will take care m il at stiff meeting in
tho morning.
(ii) Counci l Member Wiggins :
I. He directed a comment to Public Worts Director Esterly. lie commented that be noticed in I.he
Ci 1y of Littleton II I.he intmection oru . S. Hipway 85 , commonly known as Saudi Santa Fe. 111d Chluth
A\'enuc, oo Sunday evenina. their lipts are on four-way nash. He Slid this is just lbr iafonatdion. that
Ibis is a major ancry in tho Cily, but tl,cy put It on four-way flub oa Sunday night.
l . He Slid he undentands then: ha\-e been some requests to the Ciiy Muqer ror wrbatim notes of
counci l meet ings. where the Ciiy Clat is taking notes and she does write tbem up and submit them to us.
and yet tl,e Ci1y Manager is getting requests for verbatim notes. He advised that be feels. after talking 10
I.he Ci iy Attorney. thal lhe Cily proceed in lhe Sime manne, IS they do when they make I request lo the
coun or 1he Cily A1tomei• for ,-erbatim notes. tha1 they be gi,-en the ofl'er of being supplied a tape. He
staled thal Ibis is much less ~nsi,•e. He Slid thal lhe time involved cost "ise and for •;tall' lime, be
feels, is getting oul of hand. He commenled 1ha1 he still does not understand the purpc>'.e for the verbatim
notes. Council Member Wiggins said 1ha1 he would recommend. if the rest of Council approves. that if
somebody ,.;,hes 10 ha,-. ,-erba1im notes of a council mee1ing tha1 they be a!IO\<'Od to Fl a tape. Then, he
said. iflhcy wanl 10 seek somebody 10 malte up a iype..Tiuen form thal's fine . He pointed out thal in legal
mail ers in coun lhe defendanl is allO\<ed 10 ha\'e notes. but he has to pay for lha1 e.,q,ense. M,, Wiggins
s1a1ed lhal he feel s 1his is an undue expense against :he Cily. He Slid he does not know how the rest of
Counci l feels. He ask ed if anybody ehe had any comments on that.
Mayor Bums commented that at the first forum the Mayor Pro Tern got up and di sag,,,d "i1h the
de\'eloper speaking. He noted that she read a vetbatlm transcripl of the motion to not p,q,are our lilt of
tenan ts on Ille developer's contnlet unti l after the public meetings. Mr. Bums said that he 1alked to her
an erwanls and she accused him of not follO\<ing the rules and said lhat the Cowlcil had decided lha1 the
deve loper ~-ould not speak a11hese meetings and thal it Yiolaled tho rul es that they were lhere and it was
hi s fa ult Mayo r Bums sai d that completely surprised him as he does not remember the Ciiy Counci l
dec iding thal Ille de\'eloper "~ not going to speak al tl1CSO meetings. He sa id that. in fact . he thought it
was 1he op posi 1c. Thal the whole idea or ha,i ng 11,e public meetings. and lhe ones they told Ille public
they would ha\'e, is so 1he de\'e lope r could explai n his concept and lhe pubh c cou ld react to it. Mr. Bu ms •
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aid 11111 wllen be asked Clarion and~ Ille), aid Ibey ...-d lhedcwlopor lbere lO explaia lheir
conc:q,t so lbc public -id ,apond to it. He 1111d 11111 he lliillU tbll u 1he ....... oldie public ..eci
on lilr plans and so lbnh. that lhe,.. ol lhll DI"'~ floa their miad .... ..., )1111 pl lO
wor1< on what they wbcR doinj. 11c .. 1ed hedael 11G1 tlllu thal It NIiiy llllde ■IICh difllnnce. He
commented tllat pat,apl be diould ha.e mentioned 11111 M lllldy llllioa, bat lie did ll0C l'einolliber • if
any Council Member lffllOfflben, that Council made a !Ille 111111he dM lap■'-.ld llllC ,peak. He aid
he thoughl that II lhc moeting they had with Clarioo tbol lbc Mayor Pro Tan -unable IO be tbcR.
Council Member Wiggim advised U,.al Ille meeting -llped and lhc -given I c,opy o( Ille !ape. He
said that Council Member Halllawly had spocillc:ally asked that 1he meeting be taped . lie laid ifil 11 oa
the tape. it is on the tape. but that he does not recall ii tidier.
Council Member Hathaway aid that she doftnit ely remembers contrary lo that. She ltlted that Ibey
established that Ski p definitely needed to be there. that he definitely 1-sed lO ,peak bccawo -al'the
residen ts had never """' him in person . Mayor Bums aid that wu right
Council Member Clapp said she thought they had agreed on jllll keeping It llllon. and thal WU lhe ooly
limi tation they put on ii. Beausc. she staled. it•·• really going to be larlCly for the community. nac for
the de\'eloper. and they wanted to make su re that be,.,.. not taking loo much olthe 1ime.
Mayor Bums said thal ..... righl and ic'ldeed be ulldmlood thal it did go oa for awhile wilh the de\-elopcr
and so fonlt He noted that he understands thal ClariGa readily agreed that evening that all ol thM sbould
be shonened up considerably with the next nating in order 10 gel 10 tlie ciliun panlcip11ion quidler.
Council Member Hath.wai said 1ha1 she al so tl1ough1 thc consul tants "iii shonen lheir pr<Sentations.
because of the fact that ii was 1heirfim one 001 olthe hopper. their first time dealing wilh our group or
people.
Mayor Bums agreed. soying thal ii was a real lest run. and be thought they all found out that it got a littl e
long before they got to the citi zens. So. he sa id. be antici pates that it will be shortened up considetabiy.
Council Membe r Waggo ner asked whal was on the tape? Council Member Ha1haway said slle did 001
know.
Counci l Member Wiggi ns sa id lhal we arc still back to lb: issue on thc verba1ims .
Mayor Bums staled that be did not know. lh;;t be besita1es 10 ask Cily Council membe" to pay for their
own, thal it gels praty expensive 10 pay for 1ranseripts. He said thal he ju>t lhinlts lhcy should be
jud iciously used and he did not know th e whol e purpose of ha,,j ng verbali m 1rnnscriptS eitl1cr.
Counci l Member Ha1haway asked if a member of the public reques1s a verba1i m copy of Ci iy Council
meeti ng minu1es. if Ibey have to pay fo r ii? City Attorney Brottman said yes, unl ess a verbalim has
al readj been done. "~ wou ld charge copying cost s bul oot lhe time 10 do tha t. Otherwi se. he staled. Ibey
would have to pay fo r tlie verbatim .
Council Member Wiggi,,s sa id ail right then . Ibey "i ii just have 10 live ";th it if that is lhe way you ..-an t
10 be. Bui he opined lhdl it is gelling oul of hand and lhal he thinks 1he Cily Clerk takes very copious
notes . Counci l Member Halhaway co mmented 1hat she is required to ~o it off the ta pe anyway .
3. He said 1ha1 back to lhe ve ry issue-:,f Tucsday nighl's meeting which they all attended . he wanted
10 1eii Counci l 1ha1 he "~s humil inled lrJ the "~Y 1ha1 our Mayor Pro-Tern Alex Haben ichl acted that
ni ght. Council Member Wi ggin s noted Iha! Council had kind of agreed I hat th ey would no, speak . He
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p,c ap t1Mn ud nod Yllllllia Ille wide.._.. Ht aw 1M her.II., llllmilillal for Caaa;11.i for
lhc Cil)' of l!qlcwaod Ille My Ille ll:led. Mt. Wial"' llld lllol lhe ""ol llO CDW1Cly II all ta lbc people
who were 11Yi111 ta 11111 Ille 111iaa. ClarioL T1iea. he IIOled, Iller 11111 Ille IIQI up .S paml lbc wbolc lloor
bock and fm1II like I cat ....... I pN)'~ 1111d no a.lay, lie paillld out 1M ifllle -Uyiq lo
sllClk ml he or uy other,.._ -Mlklac........, dillnclia( llae peoplewbo ~ lbcn. wdJ tblt it
was ,omplcll:ly oa1 of hand lilld he llid lie -reot•y ~ Mr. Wi&rim IIIIOd dill he,........ to
l'CIISU:e her on nocord bccalle he ii ve,y dilplled with 1h11 kind of Klion and he llid he lhinkl she
kDow5 \t. He llid he ii jllSI lick ml wed of !be way shc ICU II ...... ........ He 00IIUDClltcd lhll he
still doc, !IOI unclmllnd what &he 11 t,ying to Id 11.
Mayor BUIDI c:ammcntcd that it -I ,wpriac but tbat it blppcncd. He llid be WII lq,d\lJ that Ibey can
proceed II the DCXt rm:etings "uhoul tllll .,., of thina.
(iii) Council Member Waggoner stated that he thinks thcro needs to be more input
from the public. 11 the public folwns, .,.. tenant mix . He Slid be thinlts one ol Ille thlnp that IW1cd
the forums anyway was to try to find ciut wlllt the people want as fir IS SIORS to lbop in or aclUllly what
they want in Cinderella Cil)'.
Council Member Hathaway DOied 1h11 some of them did t>RJ'ide some of 1h11. Council Member
Waa-r stated ti'.at some of 111cm kind of puucd it alI 10 the lido and did man: of the p,nml layoul
\\ith the 2000 IIQUIR foot SIO""-Ms. Hathaway 1grad 1h11 IOIIIC bcdgcd around it. MI . Waggoner said
he ju.<t thinks there nccd.5 10 be mon: request for specific tenant mix .
Mayor Bums said that be tcods to ao lloag ,.;th that. that he would like to know more about whll they
really want. what they would like to ha\'C IS far u if they Willi I large lllCRhandiser. who it might be.
Counci• Member Hathaway llid it ii her undelltandin& from Bob ~ Ind the disculsioa lllen>vd is
that the lir!t six that "-cn: -II this last forwn ire gain& to be put up II the next forum. She llid that
might help . rather than having the six that Clarion provided. ll<ause, she advised, that.-of the
people she talked to al\er the IIIOdlng looked 11 the six that Clarion P""idcd Ind Slid tbat none of these
work here reall y. She said she thinks that is why the)· goc mon: absorbed inputting in the public
amenities. the tn:es and Sluff. because they wen: looking 11 all of the other ones that Clarion provided.
She said she is hoping Wc:dnc5day's ..-ing will be I little bit dilTen:nt . because tbcy will ha,'C more
home10"11 Englewood ideas as opposed to something that may have come from the OISI coasi . She stated
that ..... the biggest complaint she helrcl was 1h11 they did not want an)1hing from the CISI coast. Mayor
Bums Slid he thinks 1h11 ii a aood comment.
13 . City Man1gu'1 Report
Cil)' Manager Clark did not have any mallen 10 bring b.:fon: Council.
14 . City Attorney's Report
City Attorney Brotzman n:commendcd 1h11 Council go into Executive Scs.ion to discuss a personnel
matter which is the City Altomcy 's evaluation .
COUNCIL MEMBER BA THAW A Y MOVED . AND IT WAS SECONDED. FOR COUNCIL TO
GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESS•ON IMMEDIA TEU' FOLLOWING THE COUNCIL MEETING
TO D•scuss c•TY AlTORNl:Y BROTZMAN ·s EVALUATION.
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Ayes : Council Member.; Hathnway. Vormittag. Wiggins. Waggoner. Clapp , •
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Nays :
Absent:
MocloG carried.
IS. Adjouni .. al
Bums
None
Council Member Habc:nicbl
COUNCIL MEMBER RATBAWAY MOVED TO ADJOURN . The meeting a<ljoumcd 118:12 p.m.
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