HomeMy WebLinkAbout1975-08-18 (Regular) Meeting MinutesCOUNCIL CHAMBERS
CITY OF ENGLEWOOD, COLORADO
AUGUST 18, 1975
REGULAR MEETING:
The City Council of the City of Englewood, Arapahoe
County, Colorado, met in regular session on August 18, 1975, at
7:30 P.M.
Mayor Taylor, presiding, called the meeting to order.
The invocation was given by Reverend Fred Hahn
of Immanuel Lutheran Church, 3695 So. ·Acoma. The Pledge of
allegiance was led by Boy Scout Troop 154 which is spon-
sored by the Englewood Volunteer Fire Department.
The Mayor asked for roll call. Upon the call of the
roll, the following were present:
Council Members Jones, Sovern, Mann, Blessing,
Clayton, Taylor.
Absent: Council Member Brown.
The Mayor declared a quorum present.
Also present were: City Manager Mccown
Assistant City Manager Nollenberger
City Attorney Berardini
Assistant Director of Community
Development Romans
Deputy City Clerk Johannisson • • • • • •
In the minutes of August 4, 1975, Councilman Sovern
stated that on Page 22, paragraph 2, he "objected to the
concept of the City Attorney being responsible for the redistri-
bution of personnel from the Department of Community Development
to other departments.if Councilman Clayton's decision is
adopted." This should be added to the paragraph.
Councilman Clayton said that he and the City
Attorney had discussed this and he had no objection to
making the change in the Minutes.
City Manager Mccown said that on page 18 portion
relating to the ~intergovernmental Agreement with the City
of Littleton for a fire training facility, paragraph 3
should read "a committee will be established with the follow-
ing representation, two from Englewood, one from Littleton,
and one from the Littleton Fire District." City Manager Mccown
also stated that all references to Acting Director of Community
Development Romans should be changed to Assistant Director of
Community Development Romans, which pertains to pages 1, 7,
8, 11, and 15.
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COUNCILMAN MANN MOVED, COUNCILMAN BLESSING SECONDED
A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF JULY
21, 1975, AND TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF
AUGUST 4, 1975 AS CORRECTED. Upon the call of the roll, the
vote resulted as follows:
Ayes: Council Members Jones, Sovern, Mann, Blessing,
Clayton, Taylor.
Nays: None
Absent: Council Member Brown.
The Mayor declared the motion carried.
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Mayor Taylor indicated that Mr. Robert White, 3073
South Pearl Street, would not be present at the meeting tonight.
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Mr. Art Martin, Jr., 5054 So. Grove, Chairman of
the Planning and Zoning Commission, was recognized. He spoke on
the abolition of the Department of Community Development. He
indicated that Englewood needs planned growth, and it is the
Department of Community Development which is most important in
carrying on this function. It is this department which provides
the liaison between the City of Englewood and other governmental
and private agencies. To abolish the Department of Community
Development would be against good local government, as it is the
focal point for the important function of planning. He indicated
that many have accused the Department of Community Development of
empire building, but he indicated that this is a complaint which
can be brought against any municipal government or department
whether it be Englewood or any other city. He further stated that
many citizens feel that the function of the Community Development
Department are finished in terms of the Larwin project, Santa Fe-
Union Annexation, and the Core City Plan. While these areas of
concern are no longer facing the City, there are others to replace
them. He asked that the City Council either table or defeat the bill
for an ordinance relating the the Department of Community Development.
He further discussed the functions of the Planning and Zoning
Commission, in relationship to the City Charter and City Council.
Councilman Clayton said that the issue at hand is
not one that involves personalities. He also apologized for
the comments which he made at the Planning and Zoning Commission
meeting which he felt were inappropriate.
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Mr. Tom Burns, Chairman of the Englewood Housing
Authority, was recognized. He stated that in his opinion the
Department of Community Development .should be retained in the City
structure because it has assisted the Housing Authority tremen-
dously, in its several housing projects. He said that the
Department of Community Development has many fine personnel
on their staff, including Lois Kocian, who acts also as the
Executive Director of the Housing Authority. He said that the
Council should consider the association of the Housing Authority
with the Department of Community Development in coming to their
decision as to the future of that Department.
Councilman Blessing thanked Tom Burns for the fine
work he has done for the Housing Authority and for the City of
Englewood.
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COUNCILMAN BLESSING MOVED, COUNCILMAN CLAYTON SECONDED
A MOTION TO INCLUDE CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLULTION NOT ON THE
AGENDA AT THIS TIME AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF $2,225,000 IN
GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS TO CONSTRUCT A 104UNIT RESIDENCE FOR
THE ELDERLY WITHIN THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD, COLORADO. Upon a call
of the roll, the vote resulted as follows:
Ayes: Council Members Jones, Sovern, Clayton, Taylor, Mann,
Blessing.
Nays: None
Absent: Council Member Brown.
The Mayor declared the motion carried.
RESOLUTION NO. 38, SERIES OF 1975
A RESOLUTION SUBMITTING TO THE VOTE OF THE QUALIFIED ELECTORS
OF THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD, AT THE GENERAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION TO
BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 4, 1975, A PROPOSAL TO AUTHORIZE THE
ISSUANCE OF $2,225,000 IN GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS TO CONSTRUCT
A 104-UNIT RESIDENCE FOR THE ELDERLY WITHIN THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD,
COLORADO.
COUNCILMAN BLESSING MOVED, COUNCILMAN SOVERN SECONDED
A MOTION TO PASS RESOLUTION NO. 38, SERIES OF 1975.
City Attorney Berardini answered Mayor Taylor's
question regarding the legality of this by answering that the
City Council can place a resolution before the electorate on
the ballot. He outlined the resolution to the Council and to
the audience, and indicated that the resolution was in order.
Mr. Tom Burns or the Housing Authority was again
recognized. He gave the background of the preparation of this
resolution. He said that their initial attempt to get approval
for plans for elderly housing were met with a "No" response
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from the Federal Government. Under a new law which was passed
earlier this year by Congress, a program of rent guarantees was
instituted in order to back the financing for the construction of
projects such as this. The City of Englewood's preliminary pro-
posal was accepted in July. The City was the only one to submit I
a proposal. The primary reason for the acceptance was that the
City already has land purchased, and at the time there was a
waiting list of more than 100 people. That waiting list now has
200 people. The final proposal will be submitted by September 1,
1975. The problem has been financing of the project. It was
initially thought that revenue bonds would be the best way to go;
but with current municipal bond market, interest rates have been
rising very rapidly. At the initial inception of the financing,
the interest rate difference between revenue bonds and general
obligation bonds was onequarter of a point. But now that spread
has widened to approximately one full point. The scare in the
municipal bond market has been created by the problems existing
with New York City bonds. The issuance of general obligation
bonds requires a vote of the citizens of Englewood. Because of
the federal rent control program, there would be no increase in
taxes to the citizens of Englewood because the bonds would be
essentially backed by the federal government~ This is just a
technique for funding of the project.
Upon a call of the roll on Resolution No. 38, the
vote resulted as follows:
Ayes: Council Members Jones, Sovern, Clayton, Taylor,
Mann, Blessing.
Nays: None
Absent: Council Member Brown.
The Mayor declared the motion carried.
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Robert Knopf, general counsel for Shakey's Incorporated
and Joe Warren, treasurer for Shakey's Incorporated were recognized
to request the 3.2 beer license be reissued to Shakey's Inc. from
Robert L. Blakley at 3281 South Santa Fe Drive.
Councilman Mann asked if the current policy carried on I
by Mr. Blakley's operation relating to the fact that persons under
21 would not be served was going to be carried on. Mr. Warren
indicated that the Shakey's Inc. has not made a decision in relation
to this policy.
COUNCILMAN SOVERN MOVED, COUNCILMAN BLESSING SECONDED
A MOTION TO REISSUE A 3.2 FERMENTED MALT BEVERAGE LICENSE FOR
CONSUMPTION ON THE PREMISES FROM ROBERT L. BLAKLEY TO SHAKEY'S
INC. FOR A LOCATION AT 3281 SOUTH SANTA FE DRIVE.
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Councilman Clayton asked what the particulars were
behind the change of ownership and the reissuance of this license.
Mr. Knopf answered that Mr. Blakley was the largest franchiser of
Shakey's pizzas, and had several Shakey's in the Colorado-Oregon
-Wyoming areas. He was selling these franchises back to
the Shakey's corporation, and that this sale back to Shakey's was
conditioned on the successful transfer of the 3.2 beer licenses.
Upon a call of the roll, the motion vote was:
Ayes: Council Members Jones, Sovern, Clayton,
Taylor, Blessing, Mann.
Nays: None.
Absent: Council Member Brown.
The Mayor declared the motion carried.
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COUNCILMAN MANN MOVED AND COUNCILMAN CLAYTON SECONDED
A MOTION TO CONSIDER ITEM 5(d)(i) AT THIS TIME ON THE AGENDA
RELATING TO CONSIDERATION OF ACTION ON THE LEGAL PROCEEDINGS
INVOLVING AMERICAN METAL CLIMAX AND DRAVO CORPORATION. Upon a
call of the roll, the vote resulted as follows:
Ayes: Council Members Jones, Sovern, Clayton, Taylor,
Mann, Blessing.
Nays: None
Absent: Council Member Brown.
The Mayor declared the motion carried.
City Attorney Berardini reported that he was not ready
to report on the subject at this time, and that it would be at
least two weeks before a report could be rendered.
Daniel R. Hale, Senior Attorney ·with American Metal
Climax, was recognized. He apologized for being absent at the last
meeting, and indicated he would be most willing to answer any
questions of the Council at this time. There were no questions.
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Mrs. Ruth Tromly, 3104 So.Vine Court, was recognized.
She conunented on the Department of Community Development. ·She
said that she concurred with Mr. Martin and Mr. Burns on the
value of the Department, and hoped that the Department is re-
tained in the City structure.
Mr. Oliver Gisebert, 3171 So. High Street, was I
recognized. He commented on the Department of Community
Development subject. He noted that the budget for the Department
had gone from $72,000 in 1972, to $152,000 in 1975, and he asked
the Council why this budget has raised so dramatically in the
past three years. He also noted this was only the budget for
the Community Development Department and did not include its
subordinate divisions. He asked the Council if the City can in
fact afford a high-priced function such as this. He urged
Council to table their consideration of this subject for further
study.
Mr. Maurice Merlin, 3688 South Sherman was recognized.
He said that he feels the same as Mr. Martin and Mr. Burns, and
feels that the Department of Community Development should be
retained, and asked that the City Council table the motion on
consideration of this subject. He recommended that the City
Manager should not proceed with hiring a replacement until the
future budget could be considered. He also asked that the City
Manager highlight the July financial report.
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Mr. Don Martorano, from the firm Lee and Hines, public
corporation, was recognized. He requested that ·council approve
a connector's agreement for two recently acquired parcels of land
in the Country Horne Sanitation District No. 1. He requested that
City Council bypass the normal procedure for approving a con-
nector's agreement where it would go to the Water and Sewer Board
first and then to Council. He presented affidavits verifying
that a emergency exists in this situation, and indicated that
there was a misunderstanding on his firm's part as to the pro-
cedures involved. He said that there is currently equipment on
site to do work on the project, and that if the Council does not
favorably consider this this evening, that it would be very costly.
He asked the Council to approve this with the understanding that
they would go to the Water and Sewer Board meeting tomorrow night
t o obtain their approval. ·
COUNCILMAN CLAYTON MOVED AND COUNCILMAN JONES SECONDED
A MOTION TO APPROVE A CONNECTOR'S AGREEMENT FOR A PARCEL OF LAND
IN THE COUNTRY HOME SANITATION DISTRICT NO. 1, SUBJECT TO APPROVAL
BY THE WATER AND SEWER BOARD AT THEIR MEETING ON AUGUST 19, 1975.
Upon a call of the roll, the vote resulted as follows:
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Ayes: Council Members Jones, Sovern, Clayton,
Taylor, Mann, Blessing.
Nays: none
Absent: Council Member Brown.
The Mayor declared the motion carried.
Councilman Clayton noted that this is an unusual
situation and the Council should steer clear of making decisions
in this manner.
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Mayor Taylor introduced Glenn Wallace who is the
new appointee to the Water and Sewer Board.
COUNCILMAN MANN MOVED, AND COUNCILMAN CLAYTON
SECONDED A MOTION TO APPOINT GLENN WALLACE TO THE WATER AND
SEWER BOARD. Upon a call of the roll, the vote resulted as
follows:
Ayes: Council Members Jones, Sovern, Clayton, Taylor,
Mann, Blessing.
Nays: None
Absent: Council Member Brown.
The Mayor declared the motion carried.
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The follwoing communications were entered into the
record, with no action recommended:
Minutes of the Housing Authority meeting of
May 27, 1975.
Minutes of the Planning and Zoning Commission
meeting of Julyu 22, 1975.
Minutes of the Public Library Board Meeting
of July 29, 1975.
Minutres of the Police Pension Board meeting
of July 30, 1975.
Minutes of the Audit Selection Conunittee meeting
of August 7, 1975.
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Financial Report for the Month of July, 1975.
Letter from the District Engineer of the State
Department of Highways to the Director of Public
Works concerning the status of The U. s. 285
study.
Status report on recovery of energy and materials
from solid waste.
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City Manager Mcc ·own commented on the Financial
Report, per Mr. Merlin's request. He reported that City
revenues were lower, especially in sales tax and
use tax. Consequently, the budgeted revenues were adjusted
last month. He reported that most expenditures are in line
with their budgets except for an unexpected expenditure caused
by the Ranch Creek project. At _ Mayor Taylor's request, City
Manager Mccown indicated that the City Council budget was almost
completely expended because City Council makes many expendi-
tures early in the year to other agencies such as InterFaith
Task Force, Jaycees, meals on wheels, etc.
Councilman Mann questioned why the City's revenues
are $700,000 more this year than last year and the sales tax
revenue has been reduced.
City Manager Mccown answered that it was primarily
due to property tax and revenue sharing income.
Councilman Mann also asked why there were no figures
detailing expenditures in the Water Fund for last year when the
same are available for this year.
City Manager Mccown indicated he did not have an
answer at this time, but one would be given to the Council.
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Richard M. Graham and Richard B. Frielinger were
recognized to request a public hearing for the issuance of a
3.2 beer license application made by the M B F Corporaion, d/b/a
Deadwood Diggins, Ltd. at a proposed location at 3550 So. Broadway.
City Attorney Berardini indicated that City Council's
purpose tonight was to establish a public hearing date and to
establish a neighborhood in which to petition. A discussion
ensued between Council, City Attorney Berardini and Mr. Graham
relating to the establishment of the neighborhood boundaries.
Council felt that seeing as this is a unique type of establish-
ment, it should include an area larger than the normally pres-
cribed sixblock area. While Mr. Graham felt six blocks would be
adequate, he said he would concede to Council's wishes as the
bulk of the customers would be coming from outside of the six-block
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area. He further stated that the primary petitioning area would
be within a closein area, but they would also petition outside of
the inunediate proposed location, and it would be up to Council to
consider these signatures from outside the immediate area.
COUNCILMAN MANN MOVED AND COUNCILMAN SOVERN SECONDED
A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REQUEST FROM THE M B F CORPORATION D/B/A
AS DEADWOOD DIGGINS, LTD., AND SET A PUBLIC HEARING OF SEPTEMBER
15, 1975 AT 7:30 P.M. TO CONSIDER THE ISSUANCE OF A 3.2 MALT
BEVERAGE LICENSE FOR CONSUMPTION ON THE PREMISES TO BE LOCATED
AT . 3550 SOUTH BROADWAY, AND TO SET THE CITY LIMITS OF
ENGLEWOOD AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF CONSIDERATION. Upon the
call of the roll, the vote resulted as follows:
Ayes: Council Members Jones, Sovern, Clayton,
Taylor, Mann, Blessing.
Nays: None
Absent: Council Member Brown.
The Mayor declared the motion carried.
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Mr. Mccown presented a letter of .resignation from
Charles B. Zartman, who is an Englewood Career Service Board
member. The letter contained no effective date. He further
stated that the timing of the effective date could have an
effect on the current impasse existing in the negotiations with
the Police.
COUNCILMAN SOVERN MOVED AND COUNCILMAN MANN SECONDED
A MOTION THAT CITY COUNCIL ACCEPT, WITH REGRET, THE RESIGNATION
TENDERED BY CHARLES B. ZARTMAN FROM THE CAREER SERVICE BOARD, TO
BE EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 2, 1975, AND THAT CITY COUNCIL THANKS MR.
&ARTMAN FOR THE FINE WORK HE HAS DONE IN HIS TENURE ON THE BOARD.
Councilman Blessing stated that he thought Mr. Zartman
meant his resignation to be effective inunediately. City Attorney
Berardini said that if the City Council makes the resignation
effective inunediately, it may create problems in regards to the
current impasse.
Upon a call of the roll, the vote resulted as follows:
Ayes: Council Members Jones, Sovern, Clayton, Taylor,
Mann, Blessing.
Nays: None.
Absent: Council Member Brown.
The Mayor declared the motion carried.
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INTRODUCED AS A BILL BY COUNCILMAN SOVERN,
BY AUTHORITY
ORDINANCE NO. 34, SERIES OF 1975
AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF ENGLE-I
WOOD, COLORADO, A MUNICIPAL CORPORATION, THE CITY OF LITTLETON,
COLORADO, A MUNICIPAL CORPORATION, AND THE LITTLETON FIRE PRO-
TECTION DISTRICT TO ESTABLISH AND CONSTRUCT A JOINT FIRE TRAINING
FACILITY.
COUNCILMAN SOVERN MOVED AND COUNCILMAN MANN SECONDED A
MOTION TO PASS ORDINANCE NO. 34, SERIES of 1975.
Councilman Clayton asked if there were any changes
that needed to be made. City Attorney Berardini answered in the
negative and indicated that the emergency clause has been removed.
Upon the call of the roll, the vote resulted as
follows:
Ayes: Council Members Jones, Sovern, Clayton, Taylor,
Blessing, Mann.
Nays: None
Absent: Council Member Brown.
The Mayor declared the motion carried.
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INTRODUCED AS A BILL BY COUNCILMAN JONES,
.A BILL FOR AN ORDINANCE REZONING THAT AREA WHICH IS BOUNDED
ON THE NORTH BY WEST UNION AVENUE, EAST BY SOUTH CLAY STREET
EXTENDED, ON THE SOUTH BY LITTLETON-ENGLEWOOD CITY LIMITS,
AND ON THE WEST BY SOUTH DECATUR STREET, LYING AND BEING WITHIN
THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD, COLORADO, FROM R-1-C, SINGLE-FAMILY RESI-
DENCE TO R-2-B, TWO-FAMILY RESIDENCE, AND AMENDING THE ZONING
MAP ACCORDINGLY.
COUNCILMAN JONES MOVED AND COUNCILMAN BLESSING
SECONDED A MOTION TO PASS ON FIRST READING THE -BI~E~FOR ~AN .
ORDINANCE AS STATED ABOVE, AND SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR
OCTOBER 6, 1975, AT 7:30 P.M.
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Councilman Mann pointed out that there are only three
property owners who are requesting this action. The Council
received a petition against this action from approximately 91
people. Of the seven major property owners in the area, three
are for;~and four are against it. At this point in time, he
said that he is not for this action and would just as soon keep
it off the floor of the Council.
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Councilman Jones stated that the Council should
establish a public hearing to solicit conunents from those
affected.
Councilman Sovern agreed and said that this situation
deserves a public hearing, even though he registered reservations
with the rezoning.
Upon a call of the roll, the vote resulted as
follows:
Ayes: Council Members Jones, Sovern, Clayton,
Taylor, Mann, Blessing.
Nays: None
Absent: Council Member Brown.
The Mayor declared the motion carried.
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Direct transcript from the tape recording of the City Council
Minutes of August 18, 1975, relating to a Bill for an Ordinance
which abolishes the Department of Community Development
City Attorney Berardini: Item 5Bii is a bill ~which abolishes the
Department of Community Development from the Departmental Organi-
zation, and the administrative structure, of the City. The second
part of Section three of that ordinance modifies the section on
"Definitions and Rules of Construction" because the phraseology
of "Department of Community Development" appears throughout the
Code, and if you add to this ordinance from the past, some defi-
nition that we have to attach to that part of it, that is the
purpose for adding the language there. In the event of passage,
the Department of Community Development is aware that when the
language appears in the code it can be construed to mean the
department, division, agency or administrative officer or employee
authorized to perform said function or functions . of that office.
If you have questions, I'll be happy to answer them.
Mayor Taylor: Yes Dave?
Councilman Clayton: Your Honor, I am the Councilman who asked for
this, and there were a number of comments made here tonight, many
of them obviously directed at me, and that's fine, there's nothing
wrong with that. I think it's great to participate in (unintelligible)
and I'm serious with these remarks. I really think that when we
vote on this we ought to have a full Council. We do not, tonight.
I don't know what the desires of the Council are. And, uh, even
with the motion tabled, there have been some misapprehensions
that were certainly not intended. I full and well understand
how these things happen in requests of this type. Now, I don't
know whether it is the desire of the Council to table this
indefinitely or not. I have no objection to that motion. But,
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there have been some statements here in all honesty and
sincerity that, with the approval of Council, even if we do
table, I would like to make some comments on, since there have
been several of those made without this direction, and I don't
mind the direction that's been intended by anyone. But if the I
Council would let me know how they would like to go, I really
think this ought to be voted on by a full council, and I am
perfectly willing to delay it. I would like to speak a couple
moments on some of the notes of the previous speakers, and a, a,
bely some of their fears, and some of their apprehensions, if
this meets with the Council's approval.
Blessing: What is it, you want to speak?
Taylor: Well, I think he's in order, Paul, because if this is
voted to table, then there is no discussion.
Blessing: I, myself, of course would not table, I got in my packet
what the missing Councilman feels about this, so I think we
have a full Council as far as I'm concerned. His vote is in the
packet; he isn't officially here, that's true, but I know his
feeling.
Clayton: I have that letter too, and if it's the desire of the
Council to not table, I am going to go along, if I can see an
unofficial, I really think it ought to be a full vote.
Taylor: Well, Dave, I'm going to take the prerogative to read a
letter written August 13, 1975, by a long distance telephone from
California, to Andy Mccown, City Manager, from Howard R. Brown,
City Councilman, dated August 13, 1975, Subject: Community
Development Department. "I wish to make a few comments regarding
Councilman Clayton's proposal to abolish the position of Director
of Community Development. This concerns me greatly. I feel that
this would tear down the organizational structure of that depart-
ment, and I think it would wreck our entire .future planning for
the City of Englewood. I am against this proposal and wish to
have this statement presented to the Council when it is discussed
Monday." Signed, Howard R. Brown, Councilman. That was for the
record.
Clayton: If the Council wishes to proceed, I am willing to do so.
I do think there should be a full motion council, but I am willing I
to proceed if the Council wishes to do so. Alright, it seems that
the Council wishes to proceed. Let me make some remarks. This
Department has been the object of much community-wide discussion
since its foundation. And much of the thinking behind it ·is ·ve~y
good. It came in for a considerable discussion in the year 1974
and you are as familiar with as I am during the Core Area situation.
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The putting together here, and by the way, when I requested this,
I have a report here put together .by City Staff, all since
the last meeting. I think there's a couple of papers in here
that were already printed at that time. One is a journal of
some type here, I see, one page. I want it clearly under-
stood that there was nothing personal in this for me. Nothing.
When our operating, not capital improvements, City Budget, and
Mr. Nollenberger, if I make a mistake in these figures, will you
correct me, is approximately, when the first of the year
began, approximately $6,600,000. Tap me on the shoulder if I
make a mistake. When the year began, approximately 76 percent
of that budget was personnel. Since that time, an amount a
little over $300,000 has been taken out of that budget due to
the shortness of sales tax collections. So if you'll take that
$6,600,000, multiply it by 76%, and then subtract approximately
$320,000, I believe, that's very close, you'll find the cost
of personnel in the City. Now, I'm not in anyway reflecting
badly or condemning the City's payroll. We have very qualified
employees in sizable numbers on that payroll. This Department
that we are discussing has very qualified employees in it. I
do not dispute that. Very qualified people. I doubt if we could
replace many of those people with anybody that could do any better
at all. In the last year, the three major, the last fifteen
months, excuse me, the three major projects that that Department
has had, have had, have either become inactive, or very little
activity. When this Council passed a resolution in July a year
ago to stop activity on the Core Area Plan was the first one.
The Larwin development has been reasonably inactive. Now they
do get phone calls; they have had some projections for continua-
tion of that department, or excuse me, of that project. At the
last Council meeting, the Council voted to withdraw from the
Santa Fe Union Annexation. Now those projects have taken considep-·
able amount of time. And I understand that in the future we
might very well need that job again. I have no qualms about that.
It does not appear to me that we need it at this time. Now that
job is on the payroll for $22,000 plus fringe. And with the capable
personnel that is there, I think that job of Director could be
vacant for awhile, and by the way, we received several letters
urging us to keep this Department. I have called each of those
letters, those people that wrote those letters, personally on
the telephone. And some of the people who are most familiar
with that department, some of them who wrote those letters agree
that that job could be vacant for awhile without .injuring the
functions of the City. Now, in no way to I want to delete the
functions of that Department. I have not asked for this, I do
not ask for this now. I am truly sorry, even though I doubt
there is any way around it, of the apprehension and the fear
caused by the City employees. In no way did my proposal cast
dispersions upon any individual at all. Now, let's talk to this
comment that keeps cropping up about empire building, because
I know where that came from, it came from me.
When I asked the City Manager if this was an empire building
situation, and he said no. That's where that came from, I'm
quite sure. Now, if we had a surge of activity in the City,
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and we might, at a future date, I can see .that very readily,
this position could be filled. At the present time, I think it's a
position we could live without. And, I would not quarrel with Mr.
Burns' earlier comments that this Department has made a good
relationship between the Housing Authority and them, I have no I
quarrels with that. I have no quarrels with the jobs being
performed by the people in that Department. I have no quarrels
with the personnel there, they are very good. The budget aspect
MnOiseburt mentioned, I would like to look into later. That
can come up during the budget hearings that the Council is going
to have. I do think we ought to look into that., I'm sure there's
an explanation. I just think that .we have the position here,
and we have deleted a little over $300, 000, ·if I remember correctly,
for personnel that we have budgeted the first of the year.
Now, the, and it was these concerns, that I wish to express and
have the City's attention brought to when .I requested this
matter.
Mr. Mayor, I think these are the comments that I wanted to make.
Mayor Taylor: Thank you Dave. Would you like to sponsor this
bill, or any one of the Councilmen.
Clayton: Yes, full well known, and it's probably not going to
get a second.
Mayor Taylor: Is there a second?
Jones: I'll second it.
Mayor Taylor: It has been moved or sponsored by Councilman
Clayton, seconded by Councilman Jones.
I would like to have the bill read, first, Paul.
Clerk: INTRODUCED AS A BILL BY COUNCILMAN CLAYTON.
A BILL FOR
AN .ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION .3 AND REPEALING SECTION 12 OF
CHAPTER 5, TITLE I BY ABOLISHING THE ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTMENT
ENTITLED "DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY D:b.'VELOPMENT," AND ADDING A
NEW SUBSECTION (dd) TO SECTION 5, OF CHAPTER 1, TITLE I, OF
THE 1969 E.M.C.
Mayor Taylor: Thank you. Now, Paul.
Blessing: A couple of comments I'd like to react to, Dave,
you kind of implied, it seems to me, that there wasn't much
of a need for this any more. Dave, just tonight, you voted
for 2~ million t .o develop an old folks home in Englewood.
That's going to take a planning Department. Dorothy would you
answer, Mrs. Romans, is this Halcyon Heights, how far along
is this, this is going to be a $6 million dollar project, so I
think there are going to be things for this Department. This is
just two big ones I'm thinking of right now that could be on the
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board. So I'd certainly want to vote against your ordinance,
bill, because I honestly feel there is a need for this planning
department.
Mayor Taylor: Dave
Clayton: In all honesty, Councilman Blessing, the plans for
the 104-unit, basic plans are complete, and I assume there
is one more set of plans to go through. The regulations on
Halcyon Heights and its restrictions have already been voted
on by the Council and I'm not questioning we might need that
job in the future, I have no qualms about that, but we have
put a moratorium on other jobs, then we exclude this one.
Mayor Taylor: Any further comment, Doug?
Sovern: I've got two or three comments. It seems to me in
large part that the proposal in front of us is a contradiction
in terms. During the Core Area study I must have heard a
thousand times, why didn't we do this with our own staff. I
have no preconcenived notion that in the near distant future
we're going to do any significant outside consulting concerning
Englewood's planning. We're going to have to have people on
our staff, very strong people on our staff, who can react and
work with the citizens of the community, the planning and
zoning conunmission, and ourselves, along with other people,
who can help to mold some kind of future for the City of Englewood
and it's with this thought in mind is why in the following budget
situations we have in the City is just exactly why we do need
this department, probably more so than any other department
we have. Because this is the Department which is the focal point
that should be turning this whole picture around. They have to
be heavily involved, we have to have good people there, and it
is a department head level position. So, I don't see any way
around that particular position as part of our particular staffing,
and I really do believe that we've got to handle this thing
ahead of budget time. We can't go into a budget with a contin-
gency this and contingencies that. I think we've got to tell staff
what our intent is and if we're going to have to cut out any
particular area, we're going to have to find a, particular
positions that, uh, will remain unfilled, or something along
that nature. We're not in a crisis situation like 50,000 people
are going to lose their jobs in the City of Englewood tomorrow
and with them 150 City of Englewood employees. We're in what
appears to be a fairly stable position, and we can predict where
our income is, and I think there are things we can do about it.
It's not going to be easy, but if we have to cut down on our
personnel budget, we'll just have to do it just like we did this
year. There are certain positions that do have lesser importance
in day-t.o-day operations and future of the City. It may just have
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to stay that way for awhile, then we'll be lessening the
services, there's no doubt about it, when you eliminate a posi-
tion, you eliminate a person filling that Job, there's an
elimnination, or lessening of a degree of services. I don't
see a crisis in our budget and I want to tell our staff that
tonight, wat we're going to do about this particular position
so it can be put to force in the budget.
Mayor Taylor: Any further discussion?
Clayton: I would like to make a little comment on what Council~
man Sovern just said. Councilman Sovern just said that this,
if I'm putting this wrong, just say so, this type of position
could keep us from having to hire consultants like the core
area. But it didn't. We paid the money, it was on the payroll
and we still paid for that study.
Sovern: That's not what I said. I said that I heard that
a thousand times during the course of that study and the
individual that will be hired next, and the individual that
filled the position before, is going to have to step in and
fulfill the roll which we are not going to be able to practically
fund in any great degree within the foreseeable future. The
handwriting is on the wall. That may not be the best solution,
but it is our only solution at this time.
Mayor Taylor: Any further discussion? Lee?
Jones: I just want to raise one question. Do we, in fact,
have an Assistant Director of Community Development?
Mccown: Councilman Jones, we in reality have three, because
they are titled Assistant Directors of Community Development,
Bill Brokate is in charge of Code Enforcement, Dorothy Romans
is in Charge of Planning, and Lois Kocian in charge of Housing.
These are particular titles for assistant directors.
Mayor Taylor: Did you have something you wanted to say, Andy?
Any further discussion? The question's been asked. Would you
read the motion again, Eric. May the motion be read?
Clerk: Introduced is a bill by Councilman Clayton. A Bill for
an Ordinance amending Section 3 and repealing Seeton 12 of
Chapter 5, Title I by abolishing the administrative department
entitled Department of Community Development~" and adding a
new subsection (dd) to Section 5, of Chapter 1, Title I of the
1969 Englewood Municipal Code.
Mayor Taylor: Okay, the question has been asked.
Clerk:
Clayton
Jones
Sovern
Mann
Blessing
Councilman Clayton
Yes
Yes
No
NO
No
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Taylor No
Clerk: Two ayes, four nayes, one absent.
Mayor Taylor: The motion's lost.
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City Attorney Berardini outlined a bill for an
ordinance which would convey Reservoir Road to Greenwood
Village for use as a street. In response to Council questions
City Attorney Berardini indicated that the bill does not address
the question of who has liability in the event that there is
road damage caused by any problem with the waterline. He also
indicated that there is no emergency in acting on this.
Assistant Director of Community Development Romans
indicated Greenwood Village would like to have this acted on as
quickly as possible. She also said that it does not have to go
to the Planning and Zoning Commission, that it is on land which
is outside of the City limits.
City Manager Mccown stated that Greenwood Village
would accept the road, and if they did they would blacktop it
and maintain it. Englewood would still retain access to their
water storage area.
INTRODUCED AS A BILL BY COUNCILMAN SOVERN.
A BILL FOR
AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CONVEYANCE OF LAND TO THE CITY OF
GREENWOOD VILLAGE, COLORADO, FOR STREET AND ROAD PURPOSES FOR
THE USE AND BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC.
COUNCILMAN SOVERN MOVED AND COUNCILMAN BLESSING
SECONDED A MOTION TO PASS ON FIRST READING A BILL FOR AN
ORDINANCE AS ABOVE.
A discussion ensued between Council and City
Attorney Berardini relating to the responsibilities of the
parties involved relating to the construction and maintenance of
the road under the proposed agreement.
Upon a call of the roll, the vote resulted as follows:
Taylor.
Ayes: Council Members Sovern, Blessing, Clayton,
Nays: Council Members Mann, Jones.
Absent: Council Member Brown.
The mayor declared the motion carried.
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The Mayor called a recess at 9:45 P.M. The Council reconvened
at 9:55 P.M.
Upon a call of the roll, there were six present, and one
absent, Councilman Brown.
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Assistant Director of Community Development Romans
explained the master street plan and the proposed changes. She
said that the Planning and Zoning Conunission had a public hear-
ing on this subject, and that they honored the wishes of the
respondents at the hearing in relation to Elati, Highway 285
and Zuni. In response to Councilman Mann's questions relating
to the criteria for a master street plan, Mrs. Romans said
that the changes are made in response to changes in traffic
count, traffic patterns, and anticipated changes. A discussion
followed leading to the status of various streets in the master
street plan.
Councilman Mann pointed out that Elati Street
should be designated a collector and would assist the Fire
Department which is now in a precarious position. This is
especially true of the situation existing at Floyd and Elati,
where a traffic island exists.
Councilman Jones stated that the existence of
that was established by an old agreement between the City and
the citizens on Elati between Floyd and Dartmouth.
Councilman Clayton pointed out that the area between
285 and Kenyon needs a street designated as a collector, and he
asked what City Council could do to make this type of change.
Councilman Sovern asked if the Council can change a
designation without going to the Planning and Zoning Commission.
City Attorney Berardini stated in the affirmative, but that the
City Council would then have to have a public hearing on any
proposed change.
Councilman Mann asked that a report be received from
the Police and Fire Chief in regards to designation of a collector
street in the area of the Police/Fire Center.
Councilman Jones asked for a report on the agree-
ment between the citizens who live on Elati between Floyd and
Dartmouth in ·regards to the existing traffic island.
RESOLUTION NO. 39, SERIES OF 1975
A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE SECTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR
ENGLEWOOD, COLORADO, 1969, ENTITLED "MASTER STREET PLAN."
COUNCILMAN JONES MOVED, COUNCILMAN BLESSING SECONDED
A MOTION TO PASS RESOLUTION NO. 39, SERIES 1975·
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COUNCILMAN MANN MOVED TO AMEND THE MOTION THAT SOUTH
ELATI BETWEEN WEST YALE AND WEST QUINCY BE DESIGNATED A
COLLECTOR STREET. There was no second.
COUNCILMAN CLAYTON MOVED TO AMEND THE MOTION THAT
SOUTH ELATI FROM WEST FLOYD TO WEST KENYON BE DESIGNATED A
COLLECTOR STREET. There was no second.
Upon a call of the roll, the vote on the motion
resulted as follows:
.,,.. -·Ayes: Council Members -Jones, .. Cihlj.yton, Sovern,
Blessing, Mann, Taylor.
Nays: None.
Absent: Council Member Brown.
The Mayor declared the motion passed.
• • • • • •
COUNCILMAN CLAYTON MOVED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING
ON SEPTEMBER 15, 1975, ON A PROPOSED CHANGE IN THE MASTER
STREET PLAN AS PROPOSED IN RESOLUTION NO. 39, SERIES 1975.
There was no second •.
Councilman Sovern stated that the Planning and
Zoning Conunission should continue to look at the ··South Elati
area need for a collector street. He asked the City Attorney to
specifically look at the agreement with the residents on Elati
north of Floyd.
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City Attorney Berardini 'reported on the need for
appointment of a special counsel in the River Redevelopment
legislation.
RESOLUTION NO. 40, SERIES OF 1975
APPOINTING GEORGE L. ZOELLNER, ATTORNEY AT LAW, 144 WEST COLFAX
AVENUE, DENVER, COLORADO, AS SPECIAL COUNSEL IN CURRENT AND
ANTICIPATED LITIGATION INVOLVING THE CONDEMNATION OF CERTAIN
REAL PROPERTY, WHEREIN THE CITIES OF ENGLEWOOD AND SHERIDAN
PROPOSE A MULTIPLE USE RECREATION FACILITY ALONG THE SOUTH
PLATTE RIVER BASIN.
COUNCILMAN MANN MOVED AND COUNCILMAN SOVERN
SECONDED A MOTION TO PASS RESOLUTION NO. 40, SERIES 1975.
Upon a call of the roll the vote resulted as follows:
Ayes: Council Members Jones, Sovern, Clayton,
Taylor, Mann, Blessing.
Nays: None
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Absent: Council Member Brown
The Mayor declared the motion carried.
• • • • • •
COUNCILMAN CLAYTON MOVED, COUNCILMAN BLESSING
SECONDED A MOTION TO CONSIDER ITEM 6-D RELATING TO A REPORT
FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS TO THE CITY MANAGER CONCERN-
ING TRAFFIC SIGNALIZATION AT DOWNING AND FLOYD. Upon a call
of the roll, the vote resulted as follows:
Ayes: Council Members Jones, Sovern, Clayton,
Taylor, Mann, Blessing.
Nays: None
Absent: Council Member Brown
The Mayor declared the motion carried.
City Manager Mccown explained the report which was
generated as a result of an accident at that intersection which
damaged property owned by Mr. Gene Stewart. He explained that
the current traffic count does not warrant any additional
signalization at that intersection.
Councilman Mann questioned the results of the
report and stated that possibly a need exists more at this
location than it did at the intersection of Chenango and
Huron, where a light was recently put.
Mr ~ Gene Stewart, 3296 So. Downing, was recognized.
He stated that there is a light currently at South Downing, which
is always green, and needs to be activated by a pedestrian. He
stated that in his opinion the reconunended traffic counts seem
high for justification for additional signalization. He pointed
out that the traffic count during peak hours would justify a
light at this location.
Councilman Blessing stated that using this reasoning
additional signalization could be justified at every street
corner. Council discussed possible alternatives.
City Manager Mccown said that they would look into
other alternatives.
Councilman Mann stated that other areas -within the
City should be looked at in terms of adequate traffic control.
He indicated that the City may have to have a better definition
of their criteria for traffic control.
Mayor Taylor stated that additional work will be done
on the subject, and that a report will be rendered to Mr. Stewart.
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COUNCILMAN MANN MOVED THAT THE CITY INSTALL A FULL
SIGNAL AT THE INTERSECTION OF FLOYD AND DOWNING STREETS. There
was no second.
• • • • • •
Assistant City Manager Nollenberger reported on the
work of the Dog Committee. He said they identified four major
areas of concern which include: (1) the education of the public;
(2) the need for additional enforcement programs; (3) the need
for greater special enforcement; and (4) changes in the ordinance
governing the animal control. He said that he received numerous
calls both at work and at home relating to this subject, with the
majority indicating that they want a great deal more control. He
said the Committee looked into the possibility of raising the
fees for violations, having a leash law, having a paper bag law,
and instituting a vicious dog law.
COUNCILMAN SOVERN MOVED AND COUNCILMAN MANN SECONDED
A MOTION TO INSTRUCT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DRAW UP AN ORDINANCE
CONCERNING ANIMAL CONTROL, AND THAT THE ORDINANCE BE STRUCTURED
AFTER THE RECOMMENDATIONS CONTAINED IN THE REPORT OF THE COMMITTEE,
AND THAT THE ORDINANCE SPECIFICALLY CONTAIN A LEASH LAW WITH A
PROVISION THAT ANY ANIMAL UNDER DIRECT CONTROL OF ITS OWNER NOT
REQUIRE A LEASH.
A discussion between Council and City Attorney
Berardini followed regarding when a citizen files a complaint and
what steps are necessary to follow up a complaint.
Myrtle Jones, 1520 So. Washington, was recognized.
She talked about the problems she has had with stray dogs in her
yard.
Councilman Sovern further explained that part of
his motion relating to control over dogs, stating that there are
ma~y dogs who have been highly trained and do not require a
leash as they are always under constant control of their master.
Maurice Jones 1520 So. Washington was recognized.
He recommended that animals that have received special training
and are under control of their masters be given special licensing
after the completion of appropriate tests.
Councilman Jones stated that the City of Englewood
used to have a dog license ordinance in existence.
Assistant City Manager Nollenberger stated that
that was discontinued because it discouraged owners from getting
the shots for their pets.
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Upon a call of the roll, the vote on the motion
was:
Ayes: Council Members Jones, Sovern, Clayton,
Taylor, Blessing, Mann.
Nays: None
Absent: Council Member Brown.
The Mayor declared the motion passed.
• • • • • •
Mayor Taylor stated that Item 6-B, relating to a
report from the Director of Public Works to the City Manager
concerning additional information on the hazardous sidewalks
would be discussed at a later session.
• * * • • •
City Manager Mccown presented a report from Harriet
Lute, Director of Libraries, relating to a contract between
Englewood Public Library and Arapahoe Regional Library District.
COUNCILMAN CLAYTON MOVED, AND COUNCILMAN SOVERN
SECONDED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGREEMENT FOR LIBRARY SERVICES
FOR CALENDAR YEAR 1976, AS RECOMMENDED BY THE DIRECTOR OF
LIBRARIES, HARRIET LUTE. Upon a call of the roll, the vote
resulted as follows:
Ayes: Council Members Jones, Sovern, Clayton,
Taylor, Mann, Blessing.
Nays: None
Absent: Council Member Brown.
The Mayor declared the motion carried.
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Mayor Taylor declared the meeting adjourned at
11:35 P.M.