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ALLIANCE FOR COMMERCE IN ENGLEWOOD
Nove mber 13, 2008
I.~ CALL TO ORDER
The regular meeting of the Alliance for Commerce in Englewood (ACE) was called to order
at 11 :40 a.m. in the City Council Conference Room of the Englewood Civic Center, Chair
Schalk presiding.
Present: Sc halk, Guinther, Vas il as, Lonborg, Pa netta
Absent: McDermott, Espinoza
Also present: Michael Morton, Exec utive Director, Chamber of Commerce
Joe Jefferson, City Council Liaison
Randy Penn, Councilperson
Jim Woodward, Mayor
Staff present: A lan White, Comm u nity Deve lopment Direc t or
Darren Hollingsworth, Economic Developme nt Coordinator
John Voboril, Pla n ner
Gary Hultberg, Manager of Recreation
Bob Leonard, Facility Supervisor
Mike Flaherty, Deputy City Manager
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
October 9, 2008
Ch air Scha lk stated that the Minutes of October 9, 2008 were to be considered for
approval. It was determined there was a quorum. Chair Schalk asked if there were any
changes or adjustments to the Minutes. There were none.
Vasilas moved:
Panetta seconded: THE M INUTES OF OCTOBER 9, 2008 BE APPROVED AS WR ITIEN.
The motion carried u nanimo usly .
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ENGLEWOOD RECREATION CENTER l.D. CARD
A brochure on My Englewood Rewards was distributed to all in attendance. Mr.
Hultberg stated he is Manager of Recreation for the Department of Recreation . He
introduced Mr. Bob Leonard who is the fac i lity supervisor at the Englewood Recreation
Center. Mr. Hultberg stated Mr. Leonard came u p with an idea that we would like to
present to the ACE group. H e thanked the ACE members for allowi ng them to attend the
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meeting. He stated he discussed the idea with the Parks and Recreation Department and
they suggested we speak to Mr. Hollingsworth who in turn suggested we come before
ACE . What we are proposing is a rewards program . We have thousands of people who are
patron card holders at the recreation center and thought it might be a good idea to team
up with businesses that were interested to offer some type of discount in goods and /or
services when a customer shows their recreation l.D. card. He turned the presentation over
to Mr. Leonard.
Mr. Leonard stated there are other cities doing something very similar to this. We feel it is a
win win for our patrons and will help generate business within Englewood businesses. The
rewards are basically things that you determine as businesses that you would like to do in
terms of discount services . We feel it's a great way in these tough economic times to
generate business in Englewood. We are not looking at a long-term commitment. It will be
presented to our patrons at the recreation center, at other facilities and on our website as
far as what types of discounts and services will be offered . The cards would have the City of
Englewood logo on them and a bar code. He said some type of advertising would be
pro v ided to display at participating businesses.
Chair Schalk said maybe the program could work both ways ... are there opportunities for
businesses to receive services for a reduced price if you do a bigger amount and to offer to
your employees or are you trying to offer your members with an avenue of getting
discounts in and around Englewood? Mr. Leonard said the latter is what our first attempt
would be. Mr. Hultberg said most of the recreation center's card holders are not residents .
The idea was to offer it to only Englewood businesses to generate business from non-
residents .
Chair Schalk asked if they had examples of how this concept has worked in other cities . Mr.
Hultberg said they would maintain a list of participating businesses on their website and a
hard copy at the recreation center for patrons to look at and ask them to be on the lookout
for the advertising displays at participating businesses. We want to make it simple . If a
business wants to pull out they can certainly do that or if a business wants to change what
the y offer we will do that too . Lafayette has done something similar, but they have a v ery
small number of businesses participating. We are envisioning this on a much larger scale .
Mr. V asilas said in 33 1/i years of doing business on South Broadway this is the first time the
City has offered to partner with the businesses. He said it is an excellent idea and offered to
be the first person to sign up. Ms. Guinther said she would be the second to sign up.
Mr. Hultberg said great and if they proceed and if Mr. Hollingsworth and Mr. White are
willing we'll include them in the specifics . Mr. Vasilas asked for information to be given to
him to pass around in the Business Improvement District (BID). Chair Schalk encouraged
them to provide the BID with information .
M r. Panetta asked how they plan to roll this program out to make sure they get as much
• exposure to as many businesses as possible . How is it going to be promoted?
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Mr. Hultberg said that 's where we hope to have some help from Mr. Hollingsworth. Ms.
Guinther said it's newsworthy too. Mr. Hollingsworth said it will go out in the typical
channels such as the Englewood Citizen newsletter, the website, by word of mouth through
the BID , the Chamber of Commerce, the Activity Guide for the recreation center and the
local press .
Mr. Hultberg and Mr. Leonard left business cards for those in attendance and exited the
meeting.
SWE DI SH HO SPIT AL DI SCUSSION
Ms . Lonborg said ACE asked me to talk a little about the hospital and its employees.
She said if there are other things that you want to know that I don't address, just ask and if I
don't know I'll find it out.
The hospital has 2000 plus employees of which 100 live in Englewood. The average age of
an employee is 48 to 49 years of age. The average age of the nurses is the same . She stated
the hospital is working hard to recruit more nurses, which we have been successful at and
in doing so have brought and will bring the average age down . We have instituted a new
graduate program that is going strong. Many of the nurses live in Lakewood, Littleton and
Douglas County. Because the typ ical schedule is three 12 hours shifts and then you are
done for the week it is not uncommon at all for them to live farther away and commute for
those three days . Th e ancillary staff, which provide service to the hospital, statistics are no
different. Wages vary across the board; most would be classified as middle income. We
offer a sliding scale ECO Pass from RTD so anybody can get an RTD pass for the year . The
most a person would pay is $28 and some would be free. All employees are offered good
insurance.
Mayor Woodward had a question regarding the ECO Pass. He asked if Ms. Lonborg had
received any feedback on the ART Shuttle. Is the service of value to the employees? Ms.
Lonborg said yes employees, patients and family members use it.
The hospital offers a day care . They lease the building from En glewood Schools and are in
partnership with Craig . Services are offered to employees at a discount rate and services
are also available to the public. The hospital does not offer any housing except on a very
short term basis if we have moved an employee in from out of town. Ms. Lonborg asked if
she had answered th e questions ACE had in regards to the hospital.
Mr. Panetta said in some of the studies Mr. Graham did the hospital area was identified as
one of the key areas in Englewood. He was interested to know from her perspective as well
as her peers' perspectives, is there a gap that exists in terms of needed businesses in the
nearby community and specifically whether or not better housing stock would be a benefit
to attract employees. He said he thought what I heard you say was that basically since a lot
of employees work only three days a week that maybe the housing would not be a benefit.
Ms. Lonborg said the housing stock question is in tandem with the school situation for our
younger families . When I look at where people are living in all honesty they are living in
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more suburban planned communities . She said the employees that she knows that do live
in Englewood are older and don 't have family considerations and many are single . She said
she can 't think of a segment of businesses that are missing. We have a need for hotels, but
have partnerships in existence today with hotels outside of Englewood because there have
not been hotels in the area. For a hotel to be successful we would have to commit to
unwinding those partnerships and we just resigned for several more years . We ha v e good
relationships with dry cleaners, car washes , and oil and gas establishments and ha ve a
concierge program in place. They have gone to Englewood businesses to partner and offer
great rates on services for hospital employees . They found good partners in lots of
businesses around the hospital. We don't offer enough time for our employees to take a
lunch to make a restaurant business out of it.
Mr. Panetta said to paraphrase what I think you said was that Englewood perception or real
lacks some of the necessities that residents feel are important for their quality of life or
raising their family to move to Englewood.
Ms . Lonborg said particularly in the form of housing and schools. She stated she visited with
a young woman last week who is typical of our younger nurses ... single mom with two kids.
She's buying her first home and needed a place in a good school system . She could not
afford anything around here and ended up in Castle Rock where she could get the square
footage she needed, schools nearby, safe environment, views and is willing to commute.
This area was not a consideration at all. That is an example of what the younger set is
looking for.
Mr. Vasilas stated his son also wanted a nice three bedroom house in Englewood, but could
not find one with good square footage in the $300,000 range here. He ended up buying in
the area of Bowles and Wadsworth. The schools suffer because young families cannot find
affordable housing in the City. He stated he is currently looking for rental prop e rty under
$200,000 . Properties over that price with one bathroom are difficult to rent; people w ant
more than one bathroom . He stated he attended a City Council meeting a few weeks ago
where there was a group of South Ogden residents who were opposed to a developer
building a duplex in their area . We need to educate the residents of the City to allow
pro gress ... either we allow developers to build new duplexes and housing or the school
sy stem in Englewood will die because there is no housing for young families . He noted 90
to 95 % of his customers are destination customers. They don't live in this area. He asked if
there are statistics on how many people work in Englewood and how many live in
Engle w ood. Mr. Hollingsworth said a citizen survey was done, but he did not recall the
exact numbers. He believes approximately 20% of the work force lives in Englewood. Mr.
Vasilas said it should be about 80%. He asked Mayor Woodward what the specifics were
regarding the Ogden property.
Mayor Woodward said the property is zoned R-1-C , which means it is in a single family
residential are with most lots being 50 feet wide. This particular lot has 96 feet o f frontage .
Several years ago City Council, in a study session, discussed these types of problems with
lots and the 2004 Unified Development Code. They decided that the City Manager's
designee, which would be Community Development in most cases , would have
administrative control to basically give something similar to a variance to subdivide a lot
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provided that it was within 5% of that zoning. If it's 96 feet that's within 4%. A developer
came along, bought a piece of property and wanted to subdivide it. It was approved by
Community Development, however, it was brought up that that decision was not made and
approved by City Council other than in a study session. It was not codified. As a result, the
nei g hbors took it to the Board of Appeals, which denied it because they had no way of
approving it since it had not been codified. It went to Planning and Zoning to start the
process of codifying. It th e n came to City Council and went through two different nights of
public hearings where it was voted down . That's not to say that it will not come back again
because this 5% is not atypical for other communities and to make that decision
administratively.
Mr. Vasilas asked what was happening in Denver. Mayor Woodward said there is a lot of
down zoning going on so it's not a good place to compare. Mr. Panetta asked what down
zoning is. Mr. White said it would be like going from an R-2 to an R-1. Mayor Woodward
said Denver is also looking at d es ign standards to stay in line with the rest of th e
nei ghborhood . He said he personally disagrees with that concept.
Ms. Lonborg said are we reacting to what is going on in the specific situation with a specific
house and developer or are we lookin g at what does the City need to ha ve happen and
what's best for the future of the City. Are we tryin g to preserve what we have or are we
trying to move to what's best for the future for the City? It feels like the zoning doesn't
match . Mr. Vasilas said either we move ahead or we lose our City .
Mr. Morton said this is his ninth y ear selling real estate in Denver. When he shows people
around in places like Littleton and Englewood the problem is the lots are so small to try and
put a duplex back on a sin gle -fam il y lot produces an undesirable home. It can be done, but
people do not like the look. What is possible right now doesn't fit the consumer's needs
and wants even if the y can scrape and rebuild . Buying a house in Engle wood and scraping
it is ve ry difficult to do price wise for a builder.
Mr. Je fferso n said he believes part of the problem is that we are a land locked community
and the issues are not uncommon. Maybe it is an education issue .
Mayor Woodward said the duplex zoning code was changed in the R-2 zone district within
th e last couple of months. You can now build a duplex on a 50 foot lot in that zone district.
H e said he does believe that Council and Staff are looking at the bigger picture. Bein g a fir st
tier, post World War II suburb any ty pe of remodel is expensi ve due to the cost of takin g
down a place, abating the asbestos, etc. It's really easy out in Highlands Ranch or Douglas
County to scrape a piece of ground, dig a hole and build a house . Englewood is prime
location . When a lot of the seniors in District 4 start moving to places like the Terraces on
Penns y lva nia, nursing homes or other types of condominium homes and that housing starts
opening up those four bedroom two bath houses that are on nice lots, that will start a new
generation of change. He said he hopefully will be on the steering committee for the
National League of Cities because Englewood is different that the East coast where their
first tier cities are older than the st ate of Colorado . Littleton is experiencing exactly the
same sort of problems that Englewood has experienced ; the y are just a few years behind
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us . They are talking about shutting down two elementary schools and Denver certainly has
had its problems with schools.
Chair Schalk asked if the people attending these meetings are owner residents or renter
residents. Several noted they are owner residents and they say we love our houses, we love
our neighborhoods, we don't want to see any development, we are happy ......... Ms .
Lonborg said "we don 't want any change". Mayor Woodward said these are public
hearings and they start out by being sworn in and are asked to state their name and address
and they usually state how many years they have been at that address. Ms . Lonborg said
the passion they have for the City and what they feel they have is remarkable ... that is the
good news . Chair Schalk sa id it doesn't equate to a vibrant economy. We have a group of
people here that keep Englewood from moving forward .
Mr. Penn said a lot of people in Englewood cannot afford $600,000 to $ 700,000 homes
and if they can their children are not going to go to Englewood public schools . You just
create another mess. You have to find a way that is somewhat more medium so we can
keep these people in Englewood and keep their kids in our school. He said he agrees with
Mr. Panetta in that when we grew up in Englewood we might have had only a two or three
bedroom one bath house and all the kids lived together .... that society has changed and
their va lue s have changed and that is why we are having a problem with the housing
situation right now. Hopefully, we'll have the opportunity again to look at the 5% reduction
issue and still get the house that we need .
Discussion ensued .
Mayor Woodward noted that the City has applied for a $3,000,000 grant to be used for the
purchase and rehabilitation of foreclosed properties in the City. The City would sell the
homes after the rehab is complete. T he possibility of establishing a CDC was discussed.
The members all expressed their hope the City receives the grant.
SMALL AREA PLAN UPDATE
~ Mr. Voboril passed out a map of the proposed Medical District Small Area Pl an
rezoning and a synopsis of past meetings. He said the previous conversation was very
interesting regarding the needed change in Englewood . Community Development has been
working hard to see if we can bring about some change . Staff has been working closely
with the people w ho live in the medical district area. Several years ago we held se v eral
public meetings with them and engaged them in order to see where they would accept
change. Since early 2007 Staff has been working on defining that area and developing new
zoning districts that would make it much easier to develop than what exists today. He
referenced the map he distributed earlier. He reviewed the two different zones. The
difference is that the M-2 zones would allow for small scale retail uses and M-1 would not.
Categories discussed were Land Use, Height, Lot Development Standards and Pedestrian-
• Oriented Design Standards.
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Staff is looking to add hotels as an allowed use within the entire area. Stepped height zones
would range from 32 feet to 145 feet. Swedish Hospital is currently at approximately 130
feet. The 145 feet maximum would allow them to add one more story onto the front of the
hospital. Reduced setback requirements, reduced landscaping requirements, parking
requirements, 1st floor windows and parking area screening was also discussed.
Mr. Voboril stated Staff is looking at restricting retail to 10,000 square feet per lot with a
few exceptions. City Council has asked Staff to look at the NEC and NWC of Clarkson and
Hwy. 285 and also at Logan Street and Hwy. 285 to allow larger retailers . He noted on
November 12 th Staff held the first public meeting with some of the stakeholder 's in the
neighborhood and showed them all the different concepts. They were good with most of it.
The one thing that might need to be adjusted is the height restrictions. They were
somewhat concerned with the 145 feet maximum .
Chair Schalk said what about hotels. What if someone wants to build a hotel? He stated he
is in favor of increasing the height limit. If someone wants to put that kind of capital
in v estment into our neighborhood .... for us to not want to do that feels like insanity.
Mr. Voboril said a developer could do a PUD. Chair Schalk said that's what we are trying to
avoid . Mr. Voboril agreed . Chair Schalk said why wouldn 't we want a taller building?
Mr. Jefferson said an example is what was done at Kent Place; the developer was trying to
build taller buildings there. Some of the residents felt they were affected by the shadow of
the buildings, their views became obstructed, etc.
Mr. Voboril thought some of the stakeholders felt that the entire area would be covered
with 145 foot buildings and that's not realistic.
Mr. Schalk said he would like to see that t y pe of development in Englewood. One person's
concerns should not stop progress in the City.
Mr. Voboril said Staff felt the areas south of the hospitals would be the appropriate place
for that higher type of development because it isn't really affecting single-family areas. He
referenced several buffer zones on the map that have been created .
M r. Morton asked if Staff could designate two or three areas that would be good for a
hotel. Mr. Voboril said that is what we did show the residents . We created three different
height zones within the whole area. Chair Schalk asked what the hospital thought of the
145 foot limit. Ms. Lonborg said the hospital feels that limit will work for them. Discussion
continued regarding the hotel issue.
Mr. Panetta asked Mr. Voboril what the next phase was for the Medical District Small Area
Plan . How do we move forward?
Mr. Voboril said there is one more public meeting tonight. He invited all members to
attend. Early next year we'd like to begin to codify these concepts and hold a series of
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Planning and Zoning Publi c Hearings. It would then be forwarded to City Council for
approval. Staff would like to have the new zoning in place by the summer of 2009.
Mr. Panetta asked what's the draw to bring residents and businesses in other than Swedish .
Mr. Vasilas said central location . Mr. Panetta said we have that now. Mr. Voboril said the
other piece we are working on now is that we have hired a planning consulting firm, Britina
Design Group, who specializes in streetscape design. They did the streetscape in Old Town
Arvada. This process is going to begin early next year . We want to get the community
involved in looking at ways that we can improve the design for the Old Hampden corridor
and Broadway downtown.
Mr. Panetta asked if there were medical related architects that specialize in community
development using a hospital as the focal point and have experience in developing the sub-
communities around that focal point. Is there somebody that is doing that already in the
United States? Mr. Voboril said yes there are. He stated when the Request for Proposal
went out we did get some interest from larger firms that were from out of state but they
quickly became less interested when they found out what our budget was .
MICRO BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT UPDATE
~ Mr. Hollingsworth distributed a memo regarding the Micro Business Development
bankruptcy. He stated the memo was included in Council's packet last week. He provided
some background on the City's involvement with Micro Business Development. The
company has filed Chapter 7 bankruptcy. Englewood granted $218,365. 72 to them . Their
annual report stated they had made one lo an of approximately $128, 1 77. The loan assets
are being held by an intermediary and loan payments will always go to an intermediary. As
a grantor we will more than likely not be in a secured position to be able to make any
claims against Micro Business Development. However, there is a creditor's meeting in
December that Staff will be attending.
Mr. Flaherty said when the City granted that money it was gone. The benefit was, at least
theoretically, that it would drive business development in the City.
Mr. Hollingsworth said there is a new group that has been formed called Rocky Mountain
Micro Finance Institute that will be managing the loan assets for Micro Business
Development and hopefully we can build a relationship with them. When those dollars are
repaid we can see if they would maintain the intent of those original dollars to help
Englewood businesses though they have nothing binding with us.
Ms. Lonborg asked if Micro Business Development had other debts. Mr. Hollingsworth said
the y did ... $5 .8 million in debt and $4.7 million in assets. Mr. Hollingsworth stated Staff
would be contacting other grantors to see how they are handling the situation. Mr. Jack
Crawford is the only Board member left and Staff has been in contact w ith him .
Mr. Panetta thanked Mr. Hollingsworth for the update and said hopefully we learned
something from this .
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Ill. COMMENTS & EVENTS
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
Mr. Morton said the Chamber has a new website in development;
www.myenglewoodchamber.com. It will be easier to use for not only the members but also
for people relocating to the Englewood area. We will also have the advantage of being able
to let local businesses advertise on our website .
Our next event is on Friday, December 12 th , which wi ll be the holiday party held at The
Alexan. It will start at 5:00 p.m. The Chamber is looking for people to help sponsor the
event and for donations for the silent auction , which will be a fund raiser for the Chamber.
H e invited all to attend.
Mayor Woodward noted the holiday party is open to al l businesses , whether they are a
member of the Chamber or not. The next Business After Hours will be held at Liberty Bank
on Tuesday, November 18th from 5 to 7 p.m . Liberty Bank is located b y Safeway.
Mr. Penn said the golf tournament will be held on June 12 1h at Broken Tee Golf Course . The
cost will be $99 per person . We have talked about holding some business type seminars
next year. He asked ACE members for topic suggestions . The Chamber would also like to
start the Women in Englewood Chamber meetings again .
Mr. Morton noted in the membership directory you will ha ve the ability to connect directly
to business websites.
BID COMMENTS
Mr. Vasilas said the BIO holiday banners have been installed and look very nice. The
streetscape will start next week with a final walk-thru next Monday afternoon . After that
construction crews will begin installin g the bike racks and planters. Se ven pieces of art will
also be instal led within the planters. The program wi ll continue next year.
The tree replacement took place last weekend. Ten trees were remo ved and replaced with
new trees. The owners of the businesses are very happy. Mr. Vasilas said he would lik e to
thank Community Development, City Council and the Parks and Recreation Department.
We all worked together to get the job done . Thi s program t oo wi ll continu e next year.
The coupon book has gone to press and should be available next week. Mr. Vasilas said
there are 90 businesses in the BIO district and only approximately 35 participated in the
coupon book. He will bring one to the next ACE meeting for all to see.
There will be a big Christmas tree on the north side at Broadway and Yale and we will light
at least three buildings on the north side and the trees on the south side.
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Mr. Vasilas distributed the Notice of Meeting for the annual meeting of the BID . It will be
held at 1 :30 on Tuesday, November 18th at the Twin Dra gon restaurant at 3021 South
Broadway. He invited all to attend .
Things are starting to happen in the Business Improvement District. Next year we will see
more and better things. The merchants are now seeing things happen and we have the
cooperation of the City Council.
The members thanked Mr. Vasilas for a nice job.
ACE MEMBERS
Mr. Panetta asked about the application for the $3 ,000,000 grant. If the City gets all
or any of it, when would that be funded? Mr. White said the federal government still has to
allocate the money to the State. We made application to the State and it will probably be
sometime next year but there is no guarantee we will get the entire amount.
Mr. Panetta said if we anticipate a timeline for receiving funds, and based upon the
anticipated use and the vehicle being a CDC, how long of time does it take to form a CDC
so you aren't sitting on the funds and not putting them to use? Mayor Woodward said that
was one of the questions he had and has asked Community Development Staff to check
into it. Mr. Vasilas asked if that money would be a loan . Mayor Woodward stated it would
not be; it would be a grant. It would be used to purchase foreclosed properties that we
would rehabilitate and then sell.
Mayor Woodward said he would hope we can look into forming a CDC and also to make
sure we could put the funds from the State into it.
Ms . Guinther said since the intent of ACE is for supporting commerce if we, as individual
businesses , could give a report that addresses the community need through our own
individual businesses. The point is how are we addressing the community's needs through
our own individual businesses. She stated she refers people to other businesses, but didn't
necessarily know exact ly what everyone around the table has to offer. She distributed a
new p ubli cation that has come out, Metaphysical Journey, if anyone is interested in
advertising in it.
Chair Schalk asked Ms. Guinther if she had an outline of what she would like to see from
each of the ACE members . She stated she would put something together and give to Mr.
Hollingsworth to distribute .
Chair Schalk said we made 60 Minutes last Sunday ... we got some national publicity.
STAFF COMMENTS
Mr. Flaherty noted Englewood Shines will be held on Saturday, December 6 th at 5:00
p .m. Santa will be there and the lighting of the Christmas tree will take place. It is sponsored
in part by Millennium Bank.
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No further business was broug ht forth for cons id eration. Th e meeting was adjourned at
1 :22 p.m . The next meeting is scheduled or December 11, 2008.
Barbara Krecklow, Rec rd in g Secretary
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