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ALLIANCE FOR COMMERCE IN ENGLEWOOD
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CALL TO ORDER
The regular meeting of the Alliance for Commerce in Englewood (ACE) was called to order
at 11 :40 a.m . in the City Council Conference Room of the Englewood Civic Center, Chair
Schalk presiding.
Present: Schalk, Verbeck (e ntered 12:28), Panetta, Vasilas
Absent: Guinther, McDermott, Lonborg, Espinoza (altern a te )
Also present: Jim Woodward, Mayor
Joe Jefferson , Councilman (e ntered 11 :4 6)
Michael Morton, Executive Director, Chamber of Commerce (entered 11 :44 )
Staff present: Alan White, Community Development Director
Darren Hollingsworth, Economic Development Coordinator
The Recording Secretary d istributed the Community Development 2007 Annual Report to
all members .
Mr. Hollingsworth distributed the February 14, 2008 issue of The Villager to all members.
He noted on page 6 there is an article on economic development in the City of Englewood .
APPROVAL OF MI N UTES
January 10, 2008
Chair Scha l k stated that the Minutes of January 10, 2008 were to be considered for
approval . It was determined there was not a quorum.
11 . ACE BUSINESS
2 008 GOAL S
The members are all anxious to push more forward in 2008 than ACE ever has . Chair
Schalk stated he feels if ACE can bring City Council up to speed more quickly than in the
past, hopefully we can make some real progress in the next couple of years .
Chair Schalk stated one of the goals he is proposing has to do with the discussion at last
weeks BI D meeting. Parking i n the 3400 block of Acoma Street where t he proposed
Cu ltural Arts center is to be built was discussed. The business owners in the 3400 block of
Broadway are co ncerned. H e said the King Soopers parking lot used to be a retail structure .
We have learned from t he past what did not work and feels if done again it could be done
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right the second time. He proposes to look at building a multi-level parking structure on the
current parking lot with retail storefronts from Starbucks south to Kaufman 's. It could
service the 3300 block, the 3400 block and the 3200 block where the Gothic Theater and
The Falcon are located. He said the downtown parking issue has been discussed numerous
times over the years, with no resolution . He feels the lack of parking is hindering
development, especially in the 3400 block of Acoma. He stated he has 100,000 customers
coming to Englewood and a lot of them would p ark there and provide revenue for the City.
Englewood Arts could then build their complex on Acoma and all the owners of the 3400
block wouldn 't blockade the expan sion of that business area because there would be
ample parking. It would also attach the 3400 block down to the Gothic Theater and the
areas that are currently parking lots could turn into businesses. Those lots will never be able
to turn into businesses without parking . Money the City could generate from selling the
Acoma/Englewood Parkway property could help jump start the multi-level parking structure
and retail piece. He said he feels King Soopers would be open to the project because
everyone would be parking in front of their store. He said he would like to know if ACE has
access to funding to put together a concept of a retai l/multi-level parking structure that can
then be pitched to King Soopers and all the businesses in the area. He said he doesn 't want
another parking study; they 've been done in the past.
Mr. Panetta asked who owns the parking lot. Chair Schalk said King Soopers is the owner.
Mr. Panetta said the first step w o uld be to get them on board. Chair Schalk said to get them
on board he would like to show them a visual idea of what is being proposed. He said he
would like to ask the City, instead of doing a parking study, to allocate funds for a
rendering.
Mayor Woodward said more of a conceptual type drawing? Chair Schalk said that was
correct. He said placing a large structure in front of King Soopers is a big impact and their
initial reaction will probably be no. Mayor Woodward said maybe the way to get to a yes
on that issue is signage on the front.
Mr. Morton asked if Chair Schalk had a secondary location in mind . He said he did not. Mr.
Morton suggested if ACE is going to engage somebody to do a drawing there should be a
choice 1 and choice 2. Chair Schalk said he personally likes the King Soopers location
because it is visible by 60,000 cars daily on Broadway and visibility is very important and is
centrally located. He said he doesn't believe any of the other parkin g lots in the area are big
enough to accommodate a multi-level structure .
Mr. Panetta said for those of us who were not at the BID meeting, can you give us a
summary of the pros and cons discussed at the meeting. Chair Schalk said the question was
"what are we going to do about parking if the art center is built". Mr. Vasilas said the
businesses in the 3400 block on both sides of the street welcomed the idea of building the
cultural arts center, but we have to come up with a solution to the parking problem for
both the center and the businesses. He suggested the old Hollywood Video store lot be
considered for a parking structure. It was determined the lot was too small and had already
• been sold and will be divided into three tenant spaces.
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Discussion continued on the use of the King Soopers lot. Mr. Vasilas said he felt customers
of King Soopers would not be willing to carry their groceries up an elevator to get to their
car. Chair Schalk said the bottom level could be designated for grocery shoppers only.
Longer term parking would be on the upper levels. He said until someone comes up with
an idea of where a parking lot can go that area is going to remain undeveloped. He would
like ACE to at least try to see what can be done. Chair Schalk said there is already a King
Soopers store in town that has no visibility; there is a parking structure in front of it. He
believes they could see ACE 's vision.
Mr. Jefferson asked about building a parking structure on the east side of Broadway behind
the 3400 block of retail shops. Chair Schalk said his feeling is if you cannot see the parking
lot you'll never find it. Mr. Jefferson said aesthetically, maybe the structure should not be
right on Broadway. Chair Schalk said there needs to be more retail from Starbuck 's to
Kaufman's. The members stated there used to be retail along that area. Chair Schalk said
Englewood wasn 't that vibrant back then and it wasn 't happening when that retail center
was built. Mayor Woodward said the retail on the front was functionally obsolete when it
was built. The two-story building made no sense and there was only one permanent tenant,
a liquor store, the entire time the center was there .
Chair Schalk said it is a long shot in many ways , but is there another solution to the parking
issue? That piece could unify three blocks of the prime old downtown area. If everyone is in
agreement he would like ACE to hire an architect to do a rendering . When ACE has a
rendering we all agree upon we will take it to King Soopers. Sam Kaufman would also be
contacted to obtain his input.
Mr. Hollingsworth said he agrees parking is an issue worth addressing. He reminded the
members that the government "process" can sometimes be painfully slow. There is value in
having a plan of action; it helps everyone get on the same page. He said the cost of a
parking space runs about $20 -$25,000 each in today's climate, which equates to about a
$4.5 to $5 million structure to fit the demand for the proposed cultural arts center. Mr.
Panetta asked who would fund it. Mr. Hollingsworth stated there are still a lot of questions
at this time . Mr. Morton asked about adding in Englewood Arts making them partially
responsible for helping with presenting the idea to King Soopers and coming up with some
of the funding .
Chair Schalk said there is potential for tax revenue dollars . A nominal amount of money
could be charged to park. If you charged $2 per car at night to go to the Gothic Theater he
said he should be good for 10,000 to 15 ,000 cars a year. $30,000 could be gained from
just the Gothic Theater customers alone . Mr. Morton asked who would get the revenue.
Mr. White stated it would be whoever floated the bonds to build it. Chair Schalk said he
hopes the Acoma property is not going to be given to the arts people. There 's money there
to put towards a parking structure.
Mr. Vasilas asked who owns the property where the old two-story retail structure stood
along Broadway. Mr. Hollingsworth said that is owned by King Soopers. Mr. Vasilas said he
thought it was owned by the Englewood Urban Renewal Authority at one time . Mr.
Hollingsworth looked at a map of the area and confirmed it was owned by King Soopers.
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Mayor Woodward asked Mr. Hollingsworth and Mr. White if Patty Silverstein could do a
study on the impact to King Soopers if a parking structure were built. She has already
provided a study on the cultural arts center. Mr. Hollingsworth said Patty Silverstein is a
well known regional economist. A Fiscal Impact Analysis looks at the spin off dollars of
people being in the area. He said Patt y Silverstein has already created a Fiscal Impact Study
for the proposed cultural arts facility. He suggested inviting the Cultural Arts group to the
next ACE meeting for discussion. He asked if that was something ACE would support? After
discussion it was decided the ACE members did not want to go that route just yet.
Chair Schalk stated that ACE's goal is to unify businesses and to bring more commerce to
Englewood. That is why I want to take on this enormous goal of providing a parking
solution for the downtown Englewood area.
Chair Schalk asked if ACE could ask the City for money to hire an architect to do a
rendering. Mr. Jefferson suggested talking to King Soopers and Mr. Kaufman first to see
what their thoughts are. Mr. Hollingsworth agreed. Mayor Woodward suggested
Community Development be the one to initially contact King Soopers. Mr. White stated
Community Development's work program contains developing a strategy for parking in
downtown. There are consultants we need to bring on board to help us figure out the
strategy such as how do we build it, who builds it, who collects the money, and how is it
run. At some point he believes King Soopers will want answers to those questions too. Mr.
Morton asked if maybe the cultural arts building team could help out. Mayor Woodward
said the architect might be somebody who could very quickly do a conceptual plan.
Mr. Panetta said one of the first questions that you have to be prepared to answer is
"what's in it for me ". King Soopers will want to know what will motivate them to do the
project. Chair Schalk said the question of what this will mean to King Soopers financially
needs to be answered. Mayor Woodward said having a real rendering of the arts center to
show them would be helpful.
Chair Schalk asked if Community Development could put together a list of pros and an
economic forecast. Mr. Hollingsworth said he believes the Cultural Arts facility would be
happy to hear that the merchants on Broadway and the city of Englewood's business
advisory board, ACE, is supportive of the idea. He suggests bringing them into the
downtown parking discussion. Then we can begin the next step of looking at the economic
impacts in the area and a parking strategy. Maybe ACE needs t o have some professional
assistance to look at the issue as it becomes far more complicated in structuring something
financially as to who pays what and how the parking lot will pay for itself. By contract
Englewood Arts must resolve the parking issue. He said working together to address the
issued you will go a whole lot further. Mr. Jefferson agreed.
Chair Schalk said he will volunteer before the next ACE meeting to meet with Mr. Eric
Bertoluzzi and his group and obtain information. He said he would rather not have them
attend the next meeting, but go t o them first to discuss ACE's strategy. Hopefully, they
would then be able to attend the following ACE meeting. Mayor Woodward suggested to
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include Jim Anderson and Shaw's representative in the meeting also. He said he would be
happy to meet with them too.
Mr. Vasilas asked if Community De v elopment has had any discussion with Mr. Bertoluzzi
and Englewood Arts about solving the parking problems. Mr. White said they had not other
than stating in the Agreement they are responsible for solving the issue .
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
January 10, 2008
Chair Schalk stated there was now a quorum and the Minutes of January 10, 2008 could be
considered for approval.
Vasilas moved:
Panetta seconded : THE MINUTES OF JANUARY 10, 2008 BE APPROVED AS WRITIEN.
The motion carried unanimously.
Ill. COMMENTS & EVENTS
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
Mr. Morton introduced himself as the new Executive Director of the Greater Englewood
Chamber of Commerce. He said the new staff is trying to rebuild the Chamber and to be
viable in the future we need more membership. He asked the members to help drive
membership to the Chamber.
Their Board would like to connect ACE , the BID and the Chamber to work on projects, to
be more connected so they are not three different entities. They approved at their Board
meeting to open up two Board seats to be filled by one member from ACE and one
member from the BID Board to attend the Chamber's Board meetings and to collectively
work together. Mr. Vasilas stated he would bring it up to the BID and get back to Mr.
Morton . Mayor Woodward noted that Mr. Brian Hart is already on the BID Board and also
belongs to the Chamber so may be able to fill one seat. Mr. Morton said they would also
like to have someone from the ACE Board. Chair Schalk asked for a volunteer. Mr. Verbeck
volunteered to serve on the Chamber Board. Mr. Morton noted some of the business
owners who have recently joined the Chamber would like to see the Chamber more active
and full time . They also would like to see the business community come together and each
support the other one .
Mr. Jefferson asked Mr. Morton how many members are currently in the Chamber. He said
there are approximately 120. He noted there has been a steady decline in membership and
the events that have been ran in the past few years have lost money. He said the goal is to
increase membership by 100 members and run profitable events, which would enable the
Executive Director and the Community Relations Manager to become full time employees .
If anyone has any suggestions or knows of new businesses or anyone who would be
interested in the Chamber, please let us know.
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Mayor Woodward suggested working with The Villager to address the Chambers thoughts
and plans for the future. Mr. Morton said The Villager has been loyal to the Chamber, and
the Chamber just included The Herald. The idea for The Villager is to have a two-page fold
out. One to two businesses would be showcased on one page and the other page would
be a Chamber sponsored page for advertising at a reduced rate for any Engle wood
business .
There will be a Business After Hours get together on the 19 th from 5 to 8 at Frame de Art.
Mr. Morton invited all to attend. Plans are to hold one a month at different businesses in
the area .
ACE MEMBERS
Chair Schalk asked all members to email him if they have items they wish to include on
next month 's agenda .
Mr. Panetta asked if Mr. Bob Simpson had made a presentation to City Council in January
regarding the redevelopment of the Flood Middle School property. Mayor Woodward
stated that did happen. He asked Council for feedback on types of development they might
wish to see on the property and also reiterated that the school board was motivated to
build what best benefits the community on that property. A neighborhood meeting was
also held in January .
BID COMMENTS
Mr. Vasilas stated there is a BID meeting next Wednesday at 1 :30 .
STAFF COMMENTS
Mr. Hollingsworth referenced the Community Development Newsletter that was distributed
earlier. He noted City Council also received a copy. 2007 was a banner year in many ways;
14 new businesses located in Englewood. The Hotel Study was discussed in the report. ACE
supported the Hotel Study and there are at least three hotel projects being discussed within
the community. Economic activity shows permit activity is way up from last year.
No further business was brought forth for consideration. The meeting was adjourned at
1 :20 p.m. The next meeting is scheduled for March 13, 2008 .
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