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ALLIANCE FOR COMMERCE IN ENGLEWOOD
April 10, 2008
CALL TO ORDER
The regula r meeting of the Alliance for Commerce in Englew ood (ACE) was called to order
at 11 :42 a.m. in the City Council Conference Room of the Englewood Civic Center, Chair
Schalk presiding.
Present: Schalk, Lonborg, Panetta, McDermott, Guinther
Absent: Vasilas, Verbeck, Espinoza (alternate)
Also present: Jim Woodward, Mayor
Joe Jefferson, Councilman
Michael Morton, Executive Director, Chamber of Commerce
Staff present: Alan White, Community Development Director
Darren Hollin gsworth, Economic Deve lop ment Coordinator
The Recording Secretary distributed a copy of ED 701 The Metro Mayor's Caucus to all
members of the Board .
Mr. Hollingsworth distrib uted a copy of an article entitle "Builde rs look to Englewood for
high-end custom h o using" that was in Th e Villager Februa ry 28, 2008, one entitled "No
re spo ns e to buy school site" that was in the Engl ewood H erald on April 3, 2008 and th e
ne w brochure from Micro Business Development.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
February 14, 2008
Chair Schalk stated that the Minutes of Febru ary 14, 2008 were to be considered for
approval. It was determined there was a quorum.
McDermott moved:
Guinther seconded: THE M INUTES OF FE BRUARY 14, 2008 BE APPROVED AS WRITIEN .
The motion carried un animously.
The Record in g Secretary gave a short presentation on the new Liberty recording system.
II. ACE BUSINESS
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT-METRO MAYOR'S CAUCUS PRESENTATION
Mayor Woodward asked that Staff provide this information to ACE for genera l discussion .
H e said the Caucus is made up of 3 7 m ayors from the metro area. Mr. John Cod y,
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President of the Longmont Area Economic Development Council, presented the
information at the Caucus. It describes the role of economic development. Mr.
Hollingsworth asked if there were any discussion points the Board would like to make.
Mr. Panetta asked how we put it to use or utilize any of the information.
Mr. Hollingsworth said one of the reasons it is important is that ACE will gain a broader
understanding of the role of economic development in the community. ACE was very
instrumental in getting Englewood's first Economic Development Strategy off the ground.
Economic development isn't only tax revenues, there 's also a jobs component. As we talk
about the investments within the community, whether they are housing or jobs being
brought in from a new employer; that enhances the economic vitality of the community.
Retail typically follows rooftops and where the jobs are. The higher level of disposable
income you have the greater propensity for spending in an area . As an example in
Englewood we have a good level of spending now on quick serve restaurants and casual
dining. This was more of an educational piece for ACE.
Mr. Panetta stated he thought it was very well done and a good summary of economic
development. He asked how the Community Development Department can utilize and
condense this information and disseminate it to the community. He said he feels it is
important the citizens understand the impact to the community.
Mr. Hollingsworth said this is a big, broad umbrella of economic development. He
reviewed the section ED Basics on page 7 of the handout. Categories discussed were
Supporting Existing Employers, Attracting New Employers, Growing New Companies and
Educating the Community About Their Importance.
Mayor Woodward stated there was a lot of discussion at the Caucus regarding economic
development. He said one of the main points made was on page 3, Primary Jobs Drive the
Economy. Primary jobs are the economic engine of the local economy. Primary jobs are
living wage jobs, which are the type of jobs that bring people into a community and
support retail and other businesses within the city and the city itself. Patty Silverstein, a local
economist, spoke on the economy of the metro area and state, which was much more
positive than the national outlook. One key Mr. Cody pointed out was to have a balance of
everything. When you can balance the primary jobs, retail, quality of life and housing then
that is success as far as "economic development" goes.
Mr. Hollingsworth said there is a role for everyone in the community in terms of economic
development. He noted he met with the city's firefighters last fall and talked about their
role. They see first hand a business that may be struggling financially or a business that is
looking to move into or out of Englewood. ACE members, the Chamber of Commerce and
City Council all play a role in economic development.
UPDATE TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY
Director White said the City's Economic Development Strategy is a few years old. He asked
the Board if they would lik e to take a look at it and maybe update it since ACE played a
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major role in writing the strategy. Chair Schalk said that was a very good idea and he would
lik e to see what is not being done and how we can redirect ourselves to get on the right
track .
Director White asked the Board if they would like to move the update higher up on the
City's priority list. Mayor Woodward said the Council has short term goals and he said he
believed economic development was at the very top of that list. He would support the
update. Ms. McDermott agreed. She said the document is intended to be a long-range
document, but things change, the economy changes and everyone 's focus changes.
Director White said he would move it up on the priority list and get it on the short-term
agenda.
Mr. Panetta asked Mayor Woodward if Council went into any greater depth at the
meeting? Mayor Woodward said that particular meeting was more of a broad range
discussion for the City; two to five years out. There is another meeting that Council wants
to have taking from what was said at the first session and start to narrow down and
pinpoint the discussion . He asked Mr. Jefferson to address what he sees at priorities.
Mr. Jefferson said housing restrictions have been looked at; the need for more dense
development to be built. To his knowledge subsidizing businesses directly has not been
looked at.
Mr. Panetta said from ACE's perspective it is great to hear that Council believes economic
development is a top priority. He asked the Board to please go to page 8 of the document
"Why Companies Locate ". There is a list of 10 reasons. He said it would be nice if Council
would do their own needs assessment in terms of what do and how each of the Council
members feel about these various items and what role can City Council play in conjunction
with the Chamber, ACE and any other economic development groups .
Mr. Jefferson said he believes there is plenty we can do in a lot of these different areas. The
one that pops out to him is "Adequate Infrastructure Capacity". With the expansion of
RTD 's FasTracks plan and the possible Bates Station this is something Council is working
through now to try to, in his opinion, bring the City a Bates Station. That station could
provide the spark needed for redevelopment on the northwest side of town .
Mayor Woodward said Bates Station is not only what is described as northwest in the
studies that have been done, but it flow s all the way down into Broadway. Bates Street
could be made very pedestrian friendly. Bates Station certainly is something that Council is
strategizing on right now. He agreed with Mr. Panetta in regards to taking parts of the
Caucus presentation to Council for discussion.
Mr. Jefferson said he believes Englewood generally stacks up pretty well against the
competition in some of the issues . Englewood 's problem is attracting the large employers
since we don't have large land masses ava i lable for development. Going back to the Bates
Station discussion, we are in a situation now with the rising commodity costs it increases
the cost of bringing another station into Englewood. He stated Council is meeting with the
developer of Bates Station soon , but he feels their response is going to be it is not feasible
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for them any longer due to the rising costs. He asked if ACE would like to see the City try to
attempt to look at subsidizing that deal to make it happen or is it something that shouldn't
be pursued at this time.
Mr. Schalk said he definitely believes infrastructure is the most important thing that City
Council and the City can do. Bates Station should be on top of the City 's list.
Mr. Jefferson said unfortunately, he believes, Bates Station is slipping away and that 's why
he brought it to ACE 's attention .
Ms. McDermott said you have to do the economics. Mr. Jefferson agreed. He was just
asking if the general feeling, if feasible , should the City be subsidizing the project.
Ms . Lonborg asked what the alternatives were. Mr. Jefferson said the alternative would
probably be to not have the Bates Station happen and RTD might provide some additional
monies to help the City redevelop the CityCenter area to provide for additional parking.
Ms. Lonborg said she didn't mean with respect to just that project. Mr. Jefferson said
unfortunately, that is the catalyst that will bring development to that area. Without Bates
Station it will remain a Brownfield for a while . Ms. Lonborg said that was the point; there
aren't other alternatives that are as lucrative. She believes the City should move forward .
Mayor Woodward said there are two different land owners. One is Winslow Crane . They
have been in that location a long time and they would be happy to stay there because it is
a great location for them. They are happy to stay there, but also see an opportunity. To
clarify, Bates Station is a part of FasTracks and in addition to that there are a certain number
of parking spaces that are quote "owed to the City of Englewood" separate from FasTracks.
RTD provided the City with several choices a few weeks ago. Some were totally
unacceptable. There is a handshake type of agreement that the developer will pay one-
third , the City will pay one-third and RTD will pay one-third of the cost of Bates Station.
RTD did the original estimates, which were less than $3 million and are now at somewhere
between $8 and $1 0 million. Maybe it is time to go to RTD and say we need to again
discuss that split as there are some new options available to RTD .
Mr. Morton asked who the lead entity is in this to pull it off. Letting the station slip away
shouldn 't really be an option. Maybe a group could be formed of three or four entities that
could move the project forward.
Mayor Woodward said he believes Community Development has been doing that and it
isn 't as easy as it may seem with the individuals involved.
Director White agreed. He said on April 21 st Winslow and his developer will be attending
the City Council meeting. Th at area is an urban renewal area and there is the ability to do
some financing through the tax increment that is going to happen if development happens.
The numbers just need to be run .
Mr. Morton asked if lofts or apartments were going to be a part of the development. Mayor
Woodward said originally it was going to be for-sale units, but now may be proposed as
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starting to close because Gates is currently under construction .
Ms. McDermott said she doesn 't believe the owners want to sell the property. We 've been
talking about this project for many years now. How much brain damage does the City of
Englewood want? What do we do? What's the bottom line? Why haven't we moved
forward?
Chair Schalk said he believes the project is too important and the City needs to expend
every effort to move the project forward ; the future potential is too great.
The concept of RTD ha v ing a parking lot at Bates Station and running a shuttle to
CityCenter was discussed .
Ms. Lonborg asked what is in it for RTD. Mayor Woodward said what is in it for RTD would
be to save the money of doing it. The Board said that seems like a big stumbling block. Ms .
Lonborg said it seems the City has the most to gain and the other two don 't care . If we
don't think this is ever going to get developed why wouldn't we trade a parking structure at
CityCenter for Bates Station. Mayor Woodward said he does not want to do that because
CityCenter is under parked and RTD owes the City roughly 430 spaces. Ms. Lonborg said
she knows what the City wants , but is worried it is not feasible and is not going to happen
especially in this economy. We'll then end up with neither.
• Mr. Jefferson noted the voters did vote to pay for one-third of the cost of Bates Station and
that is where the funding should go.
Mayor Woodward said the one-third share was a hand shake only . The station itself was
approved by the voters, not the cost split.
Mr. Jefferson said he spoke to RTD and Englewood has the fifth highest ridership of any
stop in the entire system; the highest outside of downtown Denver. What we haven 't b een
able to capitalize on is the retail. Providing additional parking isn't going to do anything
except allow more people to pass through.
Chair Schalk said his answer to Mr. Jefferson 's question would be yes , the City should help
figure out a way to move forward with the Bates Station project. The City needs to be more
aggressive and have the desire to make things happen. Ms. McDermott said if you ha ve
land owners that are not willing to negotiate and seem willing to push off the project year
after year they aren't hungry. You need to go back to the land owners and come up with a
plan that is going to be feasible for everyone. Mr. Jefferson said he hopes those answers
will come out of the meeting with the land owners next week . Ms . Lonborg said ACE looks
forward to hearing the outcome of that meeting .
Mayor Woodward asked ACE , through Community Development, to make a written
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Mr. Panetta said he believes the direction from ACE is to try to bring all the members to the
table to find out what it is going to take to move Bates Station forward or to find out the
economics just won 't work. Otherwise this discussion could go on for many more years.
Lonborg moved:
Schalk seconded:
Motion passed.
RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL THAT THE BATES STATION
REDEVELOPMENT IS AN IMPORTANT ECONOMIC GENERATOR
FOR THE CITY OF E GLEWOOD, SHOULD BE OF HIGH
IMPORTANCE AND COUNCIL SHOULD SERIOUSLY LOOK AT IT
AND DETERMINE IF IT IS FEASIBLE .
Director White said even though it is not a good time to start development right now, an y
kind of financing or agreements with the City are going to take a considerable amount of
time to assemble. Also, the property's zoning currently does not allow residential
development and would need to be changed . Hopefully, by the time all these issues are
resolved the economy will be better.
Chair Schalk asked Mr. Hollingsworth to draft the letter to City Council .
Ms. Lonborg said it might make sense to ask some businesses to do an assessment on the
City as well . Businesses that have just moved here and several that have chosen not to so
that the City understands what they think our weaknesses are. Mr. Panetta said that was a
great idea. Mayor Woodward said he also felt it was a good idea to get that type of
feedback.
Ms. Guinther said parts of the Caucus presentation would be a great agenda for the
visitation program. Chair Schalk said as much as ACE feels that program is important I don 't
think we have made any huge strides in getting it implemented.
Mr. Hollingsworth asked if ACE would like to have the visitation program on the agenda for
the next meeting. Ms. McDermott said, speaking for herself, it was a fabulous idea in the
beginning. We spent a lot of time in the past almost three years pulling it together and how
it could work, but at this point in time my business has grown to the point where I don 't
have time to volunteer for business visitation. She said unless anybody feels different that I
do perhaps we should just shelve it for the time being unless Staff knows someone who can
run with it.
Mayor Woodward suggested , as one of the Board members of the Chamber and now
having Mr. Morton and Anne at the Chamber that are active and out in the community,
maybe they could incorporate this into their ambassador program, which they instituted
three months ago. Mr. Morton said the Chamber would certainly be open to doing so .
Ms. McDermott said there is really no current committee. Mr. Hollingsworth said the
committee, to his knowledge, is still in existence and Margaret is correct in that the
program began several years ago. Mr. Hollingsworth gave a short background on the
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program . He believes the earliest form of the program which dealt with retail on Broadway
led to the formation of the BID. If it wasn 't for the visitation effort brought out by ACE
Council would probably not have funded monies for a study to determine the feasibility of
developing a Business Improvement District. The current visitation program, as headed by
Mark Graham, is for Primary Employers focusing on the jobs side of the equation. There is a
formalized business visitation survey, which gives a real assessment of a business . The
Chamber does some relationship building, but that is not visitation in this sense . Business
visitation is important because we are gathering information about our business community
and if someone is looking to leave or grow we can assess the situation . That need is
currently not being met.
Mr. Hollingsworth stated he did not know the current status of the visitation program. What
would ACE like to do?
Schalk moved:
Lonborg seconded: TO DISCONTINUE THE VISITATION PROGRAM AT THIS TIME
Mr. Panetta said what he got from Darren 's comments is that ACE would like the program
to continue, but needs to determine what organization and people can actually perform the
function .
Mr. Hollingsworth stated business retention and expansion through a visitation program is a
core area of Economic Development. Staff will continue to meet with the business
community on some level.
Director White asked if the City received a grant from the State to help with the program.
Mr. Hollingsworth said Mr. Graham could provide more clarity on how the program was
funded , but the State was going to give the software to the City for free.
Mr. Panetta said one of the Chamber 's goals is to increase membership. Couldn 't the
Chamber, given Staff limitations, perform some of what Community Development is asking
for as well as doing the meet and greet.
Mr. Hollingsworth said he wasn 't involved directly with the visitation program , but as he
understands it was to set up a visitation with team members such as the Chamber and
someone from the business community. It is a deep assessment of the health of the
individual businesses. Mr. Morton said he understands the ambassadors would not be able
to do the survey, but maybe he or Anne could do it. He suggested the Chamber have a
discussion on visitation and report back to ACE at the May meeting. He said what has
happened in the past has obviously not worked so maybe a new way of looking at it might
work.
Ms. McDermott stated the original intention of the visitation was to combine forces with an
ACE member, key business leaders in the community and a Chamber representative. She
said what she believes is the reason the visitation had trouble putting groups together to
call on businesses was that everyone's time on this committee has gotten very busy and it
was very hard to get a small group together to actually go out and make the calls. The value
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if we are go in g to keep v isitation a part of ACE.
Mr. Morton said he would be happy to meet w ith Mr. Graham and discuss the program
and see if there is a way to make it happen and report back at the next meeting.
Mr. Hollingsworth asked if ACE wants to continue to look at the 600 plus primary
employers. Mr. Morton said they are looking at all sections.
The members asked for the motion to be restated.
Ms. Guinther and Mr. Panetta still feel the program is valuable and important to the City .
Lonborg moved:
Panetta Seconded: Table the motion until the next meeting.
Motion passed.
MICRO BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT -ENGLEWOOD REPORT
Mr. Hollingsworth referenced the Micro Business Development Annual Report that was
includ ed in the meeting packet. He reviewed the report wi th the committee.
• Mr. Panetta asked if all monies had been funded to Micro Business Development (MBD ).
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Mr. Hollingsworth stated they have received the total of $218,000 and have not requested
any additional funding. Di sc us sion ensued.
Mr. Panetta asked at what point does ACE find out what tangible benefit Englewood
receives from this program. Mr. Hollingsworth will ask MBD what their measures are and
report back.
WEBSITE UPDATES ON THE NEW BUSINESS CHECKLIST AND BUSINESS
DIRECTORY
Mr. Hollingsworth referenced the outline for a new business checklist that was distributed
at the beginning of the meeting. MBD was instrumental in putting the checklist together. It
should be placed on the web in the near future.
Mr. Hollingsworth asked ACE w hat their feelings are about having an on-line business
directory. Right now the directory is all voluntary. It would be very time consuming to
update. Not every community has a business directory on-line. How important is that to
ACE? Currently there are only about 600 businesses on the database; there are about 2300
businesses in Englewood.
Ms. McD ermott said it would not be for her business. Chair Schalk said he has mixed
feelings about it and trying t o get everyone included would take a lot of effort and doesn't
see the val u e in it. Ms . Lon borg asked if the Chamber directory was on-line. Mr. Morton
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said it was , but you must be a member of the Chamber to be included. Ms. Lonborg asked
if people use it. Mr. Morton said yes , from what we hear. Ms. McDermott said if she were
looking for a business she would not think to look at a city 's database, I would go to the
yellow pages . Ms . Lonborg said she would rather see Staff time spent on other projects.
Chair Schalk asked if the licensed people can still be included in the current database. Staff
said they could be.
Mr. Hollingsworth thanked the committee for their input.
Ill. COMMENTS & EVENTS
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
Mr. Morton said he was happy to announce Costco 1n Sheridan has signed up as a
Chamber member.
The Chamber's main focus has been on economic development by trying to bring together
different groups in the City . The first group they worked with was the Business
Improvement District. The Chamber has been pushing them to work with the City on
several projects such as outdoor seating, a proper mix of shops on Broadway, bike racks
and benches on Broadway.
Another project they have been working on is Englewood Sale Day. It would help to add to
the revenue on Broadway and also attract new businesses. It would be a specific sale day
every month. It would not be a sidewalk sale , it would be more upscale. The Chamber
would like flags placed on all businesses on Broadway on sale day. The Lions Club has
already placed flag holders on about 20 -25 % of the businesses . On Memorial Day and
Labor Day they place American flags in the holders. Mr. Morton would like to work with
the BID to place flag holders on the remaining businesses and place a BID logo flag out on
sale day.
Mr. Morton stated he met with the builder's group and is encouraging them to form a
group to discuss issues they have regarding building. Then, with the help of the Chamber,
we can approach the City and discuss needed changes and help facilitate implementation.
Mr. Morton met with the arts council and they are considering joining with the Chamber on
several events this year . 2008 i s a transitional year for the Chamber. They are looking at
better planning for next year to where they have four to five Chamber events. The Chamber
will be taking over Englewood Days this year. The Chamber's idea is that it become a family
friendly event. It has been suggested to explore combining the car show and Fun Fest into
one event next year and holding it in front of City Hall. We would li ke to have art booths,
food booths, a children 's area, music and the car show.
This year Englewood Days is being held on September 21 st. Location has yet to be
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The Chamber golf tournament is July 18 th at Broken Tee. He invited all ACE members to
join in. There will be a picnic after the tournament.
ACE was invited to attend Business After Hours on Thursday, April 1 7th from 5 to 7 p.m. at
the Twin Dragon.
He stated the ambassador program is go ing full swing. They have met all of the businesses
along Broadway from Hampden to Yale . The industrial area is the next area to be vis ited.
When Mr. Morton started work at the Chamber in January the membership was at 115 and
we are now up to 140 members .
ACE MEMBERS
Mr. Panetta said kudos to Community Development for your March report. It was very
comprehensive and thorough. He would like to suggest it be an agenda item for next
month's meeting. Everyone agreed.
Ms. McDermott noted that Chair Schalk 's and her term are expiring this year. The deadline
for reapplying is May 9th. She said serving on the Board is one of the best volunteer efforts
she does. She asked how the rest of the committee feels about her reapplying. The
committee all agreed they would like both to remain on the Boa rd . Applications can be
found on-line or in the City Manager's office .
BID COMMENTS
Mr. Vasilas was not present at the meeting.
STAFF COMMENTS
Mr. Hollingsworth stated there are 15 new businesses in Englewood this year under the
sales tax licenses .
Future meeting topics include:
• Visitation Update
• Project Report -General Iron Works
• Economic Development Strategy Update
No further business was brought forth for consideration. The meeting was adjourned at
1 :35 p.m. The next meeting is scheduled for May 8, 2008.
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