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MINUTES
BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND APPEALS
September 13, 2000
I. CALL TO ORDER
The regular meeting of the Englewood Board of Adjustments and Appeals was called to
order at 7:40 P.M. in the Englewood City Council Chambers, Chair Bode presiding.
Members present: Bode, Carlston, Davidson, O'Brien, and Seymour
Members absent: Rasby and Smith
Staff present: Nancy Reid, Assistant City Attorney
Tricia Langon, Planner
Kate Newman, Planning Technician
Robert Simpson , Director of Community Development
Chair Bode stated that there were five members present; therefore, four affirmative
votes are required to grant a variance. Chair Bode stated that the Board of
Adjustments and Appeals is empowered to grant variances by Part III, Section 60 of the
Englewood City Charter.
Chair Bode set forth parameters for conduct of hearings: The Chair will introduce the
case; applicants will present their request and reasons the variance should be granted;
proponents will be given an opportunity to speak; opponents will address the Board;
and then staff will address the Board.
II. CASE #14-2000
Larry Underwood
2250 South Zuni Street and 2377 West Iliff Avenue
Chair Bode declared the Public Hearing open, stating he had proof of posting and
publication. He also stated that the case was continued from August 9, 2000. He
introduced the case by stating it is a variance from Section 16-5-13:A.2.b, Minimum
Front Yard for Residential Corner Lots, to encroach 18 feet into the required 25 foot
side yard setback.
Larry Underwood, 3033 South Oak Way, Lakewood, Colorado was sworn in. Mr.
Underwood stated in order to save t he existing house at 2250 South Zuni Street and
ma intain two lots, he wants to subdivide the two properties from east to west. The
south lot would be 50 feet wide along Zuni and 120 feet along Iliff. It would create two
lots which would conform to street frontage and lot size requirements. This buildable
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area of the south lot would not be functional. If the structure faced Iliff, the front and •
rear setback would be 25 feet. If it faced Zuni, the front setback would be 10 feet. The
side setback along Iliff would be 25 feet; the side setback to the north 25 feet; and the
rear setback to the east would be 10 feet. This would leave a buildable area of 20 feet
x 100 feet, as shown in Figure 2 of the staff report.
With regard to the five criteria, Mr. Underwood testified that the present property line is
approximately 1 foot from the rear of the existing house, which leaves no backyard.
Due to the present configuration, he is not able to develop and sell the two properties
separately. The proposed variance would allow these properties to be separated. With
respect to the spirit of the ordinance, the variance would allow for the development of
single family housing in the area while resubdivision would provide conforming setbacks
of the ex isting home.
With respect to the third criterion, Mr. Underwood testified that when he bought the
property there was an old, two-room, condemned house on the lot. Since that time , he
has demolished that building and improved the appearance of the area. He stated that
he also restored the existing house. The proposed new housing would also improve the
appearance of the neighborhood. The adjacent property is already developed, but new
housing would encourage future investment and development. With regard to the least
modification, Mr. Underwood testified that proposed setbacks conform to the R2C
standards, and he is only requesting that the orientation of the setbacks be changed. •
Mr. Underwood submitted neighbors' statements to the Board.
Ms. O'Brien asked if Mr. Underwood owned both lots. Mr. Underwood responded that
he did. Ms. O'Brien asked what had changed since he bought the lots, and why he
didn't know this was a problem when he bought the properties. Mr. Underwood stated
he was new to this type of situation. His original plan was to develop the existing
house, and change the lot line around because the original lot line runs north to south
and runs through the rear part of the existing house. He stated he wants to build a
house on the other lot and sell it separately.
Ms. Carlston asked when he bought the property. Mr. Underwood replied that he
bought the property in the middle of June, and he has been working on the ex isting
house for three months. He stated that he has also improved the landscaping on the
lot.
Ms. O'Brien stated that on West Baltic there are four lots that have been divided north/
south rather than east/west. Ms. O'Brien directed the applicant to Figure 3 in the staff
report. Ms. O'Brien asked why he couldn't divide the property in the same manner. Mr.
Underwood ask for clarification as to which lots Ms. O'Brien was referring. Ms. O'Brien
stated she was referring to Lots 19 and 20. Mr. Underwood replied it has to do with
how the existing house is located on the property. The north/south property line on the •
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existing property runs to the back of the house. Ms. O'Brien asked if staff could clarify
the issue.
Tricia Langon, Planner, was sworn in. Ms. Langon approached the Board. She referred
the Board to the staff report and proceeded to explain how the property was currently
configured and how the applicant wished to change the property line . By changing the
orientation of the property line, it brings the existing house into conformance with all
setbacks and provide the owner with a buildable lot. Ms. Langon clarified that Mr.
Underwood can subdivide the property as it currently exists; that is not the issue. The
issue is having buildable area that is practical. Ms. Langon stated the existing house is
currently five feet from the proposed property line. If the orientation of the property
line is not changed, there would be more variances needed to subdivide the property.
There would be variances for lot area and setbacks.
Ms. O'Brien asked if the property could stay "as is." Ms. Langon stated that was
certainly an option -leave it as one big property. Ms. Langon reiterated that the
subdivision can occur whether a variance is granted or not. She continued; there are
three situations: If no variance is granted, the property can be subdivided which is
shown in Figure 1 of the staff report, which provides for no buildab le area. Figure 2
shows the buildable area as 25 feet wide because of the requirement for residential
corner lots, rather than the R2C requirements. The configuration shown in Figure 2 can
be accomplished without the variance, but it is not practical. Ms. Langon clarified that
the applicant's request is shown in Figure 3 with the variance.
Mr. Seymour stated that one of the neighbor statements did not have an address. He
asked Mr. Underwood if he knew the address of Barb Fitzsimmons. Mr. Underwood
stated that she lives next to the property on Iliff.
Ms. O'Brien asked if the property had any prior variances. Ms. Langon stated it did not.
Ms. O'Brien asked for Community Development's position on the value of having a
house on a "weirdly" located lot w ith no backyard or private area to the house. Ms.
O'Brien asked if Ms. Langon thought it would be an asset to the City. Ms. Langon
stated that what has been demonstrated in the staff report is the buildable area-the
area in which a house could be built according to the corner lot regulations. Ms.
O'Brien again asked if Community Development had a position on the variance. Ms.
Langon stated staff would support the request because it meets the requirements of the
corner lot regulations. The corner lot regulations are for such situations where there is
only 50 feet.
Chair Bode asked staff to explain the corner lot regulations to the Board. Referring to a
drawing, Ms. Langon approached the Board and explained the corner lot regulation.
Ms. Langon stated it is a difficult case to understand because it involves a corner lot,
but also that it is a corner lot "turned the other way." The corner lot regulations
generally work on whether it is a short street or long street side of a block. In this
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particular case, Zuni Street becomes the short street side of the block, which is key. •
When a house faces the short street side, then the regulation allows for setbacks that
are 10 feet on each side, 5 feet to the rear, and 25 feet to the front. The reason being
is because all the other houses along Iliff are required to have a 25 foot front setback.
On the corner, there would also need to be a 25 foot side setback. Referring to the
staff report, Ms. Langon stated that Iliff is their "side" because they will face out to
Zuni. Zuni is the other houses' front and the block requirement is 25 feet. The
applicant would need to provide 25 feet which is really the side because it is Zuni Street
Chair Bode asked if the corner regulations stated how far he had to be from Zuni Street.
Ms. Langon stated it would be 10 feet.
There were no other persons present to testify for or against the variance. Chair Bode
incorporated the staff report and exhibits into the record and closed the public hearing.
Mr. Seymour moved;
Ms. Carlston seconded:
THAT CASE #14-2000, 2250 SOUTH ZUNI STREET AND 2377 WEST ILIFF
AVENUE, BE GRANTED A VARIANCE FROM SECTION 16-5-13:A.2.b , MINIMUM
FRONT YARD FOR RESIDENTIAL CORNER LOTS, TO ENCROACH 18 FEET INTO
THE REQUIRED 25 FOOT SIDE YARD SETBACK. •
Ms. Carlston stated that it would add to the neighborhood. She stated she didn't want
it to be a rental property, and that a "normal size" house should be built on the lot
rather than a small house. It will add to the development of the neighborhood. She
stated that the existing house look improved, and that lot was a good size. She agreed
that allowing the variance would allow the applicant to build a structure that would add
to the neighborhood.
Ms. O'Brien stated that the applicant knew what he had when he bought the property,
and now the Board is being asked to cut it in half so he can make money by building
another house. Ms. Carlston pointed out that Mr. Underwood is permitted to subdivide
the lot regardless of the variance; he would just need to build a smaller structure. Ms.
Carlston asked whether or not the Board wanted the applicant to build a smaller
structure which isn't utilized efficiently rather than developing it into a single family
dwelling which would add to the neighborhood.
Mr. Seymour stated he drove by the property as well. He stated that he is usually
against people who make money on dividing lots, but in this neighborhood, it is not an
unusual request. A 50 by 120 foot lot is a standard sized lot i n Englewood. It has
6,000 square feet. It is not an undersized lot and the owner should be allowed to put a
large house on it. •
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Ms. O'Brien stated that she wants separation between houses, and there is no backyard
on this property. Mr. Seymour stated he didn't believe it was unusual for the
neighborhood.
With no further discussion, the secretary polled the members' votes.
Mr. Seymour stated he voted "yes."
Ms. Davidson stated she voted "yes." It observes the spirit of the ordinance in that it
encourages residential use. It will not adversely affect the adjacent property. There
are statements from the neighbors supporting the variance request. It is the least
variance to grant the applicant relief. The exceptional condition is the corner lot
setbacks.
Ms. Carlston and Ms. O'Brien voted "yes", concurring with Ms. Davidson.
Chair Bode stated he voted "no." It does not meet all five criteria, and the corner lot
criteria would have provided the owner with buildable space. He stated he wasn't
convinced that the variance would not adversely affect the adjacent property.
AYES:
NAYS:
Carlston, Davidson, O'Brien, and Seymour
Bode
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Rasby and Smith
The Chair announced the case approved by a 4-1 vote.
III. CASE #17-2000
Mark and Sherry Olson
4710 South Fox Street
Chair Bode declared the Public Hearing open, stating he had proof of posting and
publication. He introduced the case by stating it is a variance from Section 16-4-2:1.1
to encroach ten (10) feet seven (7) inches into the 18 foot required total side yard
setback, four (4) feet nine (9) inches into the required 7 foot minimum side yard
setback on the south, one (1) foot ten (10) inches into the required 7 foot minimum
side yard setback on the north, ten (10) feet six (6) inches into the required 18 foot
side yard setback between adjacent principal structures on the south, and ten (10) feet
ten (10) inches into the required 18 foot side yard setback between adjacent principal
structures on the north.
Mark and Sherry Olson, 4719 South Elati Street, were sworn in. Mrs. Olson stated they
were requesting the variance so they can build a nice family dwelling. They started out
with a remodel. After the first variance was granted with the condition that the south
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wall remain, it was determined that the south wall was rotten. Mrs. Olson stated they •
had no choice but to take it down. They are now asking for the same variance in order
for them to build a nice single-family dwelling to upgrade their neighborhood. Mrs.
Olson continued; the land falls within the RlA zone district, but it is really an RlC lot
because the lot is 125 feet by 50 feet. They need to encroach on the south and north
side so they can build a two-car garage and have a front and back yard. The two
bedrooms on the main floor of the house are 10.3 feet by 11 feet; they are not large
bedrooms. Mr. Olson stated that the master bedroom would be over the garage. It is
approximately 29 feet by 20 feet. Mrs. Olson stated that if they are not permitted to
encroach, it would make the house a "hallway"; they would rather make it a nice home.
With the garage on the side, it will allow them a nice front and back yard. Mrs. Olson
stated they have a family and intend on living in the house and need a front and back
yard.
Mr. Olson stated they tried to save the south wall, which was the condition of the first
variance, but it did not have a slab or footings under it. The walls were sitting dirt on
grade; the floors consisted of pallets on dirt sheeted with oak flooring. He test ified
there was no way to determine this before the demolition. Mrs. Olson stated that the
house had concrete on the north and south sides. They initially thought it was footings,
but it was only a barrier to stop the weeds from growing up into the house. The
concrete was pushed up against the house and under the walls. The floors were
pallets. The applicants submitted pictures to the Board. Mr. Olson also submitted •
drawings of the proposed house. Mrs. Olson stated that the drawings show that the
house is not a "cheap throw up" home. They intend on building a beautiful home. Mr.
Olson stated that upon discovering the rotten wall, they called their structural engineer
and asked him to draw an addendum to the addition which was originally proposed. He
submitted the addendum to the Building Department and the Board has a copy to
review as well. Mr. Olson stated that there was nothing structurally left to the house to
tie the addition.
Mr. Seymour asked if there was any part of the house left or just a hole in the ground.
The Olsons stated there was just a hole in the ground. Mr. Seymour asked if they had
neighbors' statements. The Olsons stated those are in the Board's packet; and further,
they have been open and honest with their neighbors, especially the two neighbors
adjacent to the property. The property on the south will be affected more than the
other properties. Mr. Olson stated that Mr. and Mrs. Baker, the neighbors on the south,
have requested that they consider moving the house to the 3 foot minimum setback
from the property line. Mr. Olson stated they didn't have a problem moving the house
to meet the three foot minimum. Mr. Seymour asked how that would affect their floor
plan. Mr. Olson stated that it would shrink the bedrooms in the back. Mr. Seymour
asked how it would affect the staircase. Mr. Olson responded that there is room to
absorb those 9 inches. Mr. Seymour confirmed that the master bedroom was upstairs.
The Olsons stated that was correct; it is over the garage. Mrs. Olson testified that it
was the only way for them to put a three bedroom home on that lot. Mr. Seymour
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asked ·if they had children. The Olsons responded that they had two boys, ages 7 and
13.
Ms. Carlston asked the square footage of the house at the time they were asking for the
initial variance back in May. Mr. Olson replied that the original house had 620 square
feet. Ms. Carlston asked what the square footage of the house would have been with
the proposed addition they initially proposed. Mr. Olson replied that the total house
with the garage would be just under 1,900 square feet of livable space. Ms. Carlston
asked whether the plans had changed since that time. Mr. Olson stated the house
would now have a full basement.
Mr. Seymour clarified that they could move the house to meet the 3 foot requirement.
Mr. Olson stated it would not be a problem and would not drastically impact their plans.
Mr. Seymour stated that it might make a difference with fire wall requirements. It
might allow them some type of opening. Mr. Olson stated that there initial response to
the Building Department was that the exterior is masonry veneer, which meets their
one-hour fire rating.
Ms. Carlston asked if they started erecting a new wall on the south side. Mr. Olson
stated that it was originally going to be dropped in the hole with some sheeting on it to
help shore the bank. Once the foundation was poured, the wall could be pulled out and
set on top of the sub floor. Mr. Olson stated it would have been very expensive to build
those walls, shore them, and try to hold that spot with the dirt. Ms. Carlston stated that
the condition of their previous variance was that if they tore down the south wall they
were to come back to the Board. Mr. Olson stated they was why they were before the
Board.
Mrs. Olson stated that they stopped working, and in fact were issued a stop work
order. Mr. Olson stated that he finished putting in the footers and didn't notice the stop
work order. There was an old stove sitting in the front of the house and wind blew the
stop work order under stove. He happened to notice the paper under the stove, and
once he realized it was a stop work order, he immediately stopped working on the
house.
Ms. Carlston asked why the applicants didn't change the floor plans once they realized
they would be starting from "scratch." Mrs. Olson replied that they still wanted a front
and back yard. The only way they felt they could achieve that goal was to make the
house wider. If they built it to the setbacks, the house was be long and narrow like a
"hallway." They would not been ab le to put two bedrooms at the end of the house
unless they were extremely small. Mr. Olson stated that he felt the two car garage was
narrower than most garages. Mrs. Olson also stated that the house needs to be
"resellable" and feels that the front and back yard are key for the house to resell at
some point. Mr. Olson stated that the original house had 6.5 foot ceilings and he had
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to walk bent over. With the exception of the two rear bedrooms and the kitchen, the
new house has vaulted ceilings.
Chair Bode clarified that it was the south side they would be willing to adjust to meet
the 3 foot requirement. The Olsons stated that was correct.
Jeff Baker, 4714 South Fox Street, was sworn in. Mr. Baker stated he is the neighbor
on the south of the Olsons' property. Mr. Baker testified that the house has been
demolished. He stated that it would be illogical to enforce the RlA zone district
requirements on this house. The current houses in that neighborhood are not built to
those standards. Mr. Baker recommended the Board consider a 3 foot offset from the
property line on the south side. He stated that he and the Olsons have talked about it ,
and a 3 foot offset is acceptable. Mr. Seymour clarified that he was requesting a 3 foot
setback from the south property line. Mr . Baker stated that was correct.
Ms. Dav idson clarified that it would be acceptable to Mr. Baker if the Olsons bu ilt the
house with the 3 foot setback on the south and would support the variance if that were
required. Mr. Baker stated that was correct.
Ms. O'Brien asked how the 3 foot setback wou ld affect the l ight on his property. Mr .
Baker stated that it would not drastically affect his property. Ms. O'Brien asked where
the previous south wall was located in relation to the property line. Mr. Baker stated •
that he wasn't sure, but it was approximately 2 foot 3 inches from the property line.
Ms. O'Brien stated that the 3 foot setback would provide 9 more i nches, and asked Mr.
Baker if he thought that was acceptable. Mr. Baker stated he did. Ms. O'Brien
explained that if the Board grants the variance, Mr. Baker will be "stuck" with it. Mr.
Baker stated he has lived in his house for 18 years; it has always been "t ight" and the
additional 9 inches would be helpful. Mr. Baker stated he felt the resale value of his
property should be considered as well.
There were no other persons present to testify for or aga i nst the var iance. Chair Bode
incorporated the staff report and exhibits into the record and closed the public hearing .
Mr. Seymour stated he needed the new numbers in order for him to make a motion
requiring the 3 foot setback on the south. Discussion ensued.
Mr. Seymour moved;
Ms . Davidson seconded:
THAT CASE #17-2000, 4710 SOUTH FOX STREET, BE GRANTED A VARIANCE
FROM SECTION 16-4-2:1.1 TO ENCROACH NINE (9) FEET TEN (10) INCHES
INTO THE 18 FOOT REQUIRED TOTAL SIDE YARD SETBACK, FOUR (4) FEET
INTO THE REQUIRED 7 FOOT MINIMUM SIDE YARD SETBACK ON THE SOUTH, •
ONE (1) FOOT TEN (10) INCHES INTO THE REQUIRED 7 FOOT MINIMUM SIDE
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YARD SETBACK ON THE NORTH, NINE (9) FEET NINE (9) INCHES INTO THE
REQUIRED 18 FOOT SIDE YARD SETBACK BETWEEN ADJACENT PRINCIPAL
STRUCTURES ON THE SOUTH, AND TEN (10) FEET TEN (10) INCHES INTO THE
REQUIRED 18 FOOT SIDE YARD SETBACK BETWEEN ADJACENT PRINCIPAL
STRUCTURES ON THE NORTH.
Chair Bode asked if the Board had to vote on the variance which was requested by the
applicants and then amend it.
Ms. Reid stated it can be done that way or the Chair can ask the applicants if they
object to an amended variance request. Chair Bode asked the Olsons with they would
accept the motion on the floor which changes their initial variance request. The motion
only changes the south side of the property by requiring a 3 foot setback. The Olsons
responded they would accept.
Ms. Carlston stated the applicants are now adding a basement, which has changed from
their initial plans. She is not clear why the Board should grant a variance to construct a
structure that is starting from "scratch."
Ms. O'Brien stated the Board was very clear in May when it considered the initial
variance that it was only for a remodel and it was clearly defined in the Minutes what
the remodel would be. It was also clear that it would be considered a rebuild if the
south wall was not structurally sufficient and had to be removed. Ms. O'Brien stated
that it is a standard sized lot, and they should make it fit. Ms. O'Brien further stated
that she considers it a "scraped lot" and there is no need for a variance. It is a
standard sized lot, and there is no reason why the applicants can 't build a house that
fits within the requirements. She continued; the Olsons are very fortunate to have such
an accommodating neighbor on the south, but she stills wonders why the Board should
even consider the variance.
Mr. Seymour stated it is a standard lot if it where in the RlC zone district but it isn't; the
property is in the RlA district. The RlA district has larger requirements for side yard
setbacks. Following those standards makes it d ifficult to put a house on the lot which is
only 50 feet wide. Discussion ensued.
Ms. Carlston stated the prior variance was defined by the south wall. The wall is now
gone. Ms. O'Brien agreed; there is nothing tying into the previous south wall. The lot
sizes in Englewood are what they are. Ms. Davidson clarified that it is basically the
same structure the applicants presented in the previous case. Ms. O'Brien replied that
Ms. Davidson is missing the whole point, but the basic answer to the question is yes.
Mr. Seymour asked if he could ask staff a question. Ms. O'Brien stated he could not;
the Board was having discussion. Mr. Seymour stated that off the top of his head the
minimum lot frontage in a RlA zone district is 60 feet. In this case, there is only 50
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feet of frontage. The applicants are already starting with a lot that is 10 feet narrower
than the requirement which makes it an exceptional lot. Ms. O'Brien stated that was
only one criteria; the applicants must meet all five. Mr. Seymour stated that the area is
already developed and the neighbors don't have a problem with the variance.
Discussion ensued.
Ms. Dav idson stated she missed the hearing in May due to illness. Ms. O'Br ien asked if
she read the Minutes. Ms. Davidson stated she did but wasn 't sure she really
understood the south wall. Ms. O'Brien stated that basically the design of the proposed
addition was based on the south wall remaining. The Board agreed to be
accommodating and granted the variance only because the south wall couldn't be
moved. The Board made it very clear that if it "shifted" from a remodel to a rebuild, the
applicants had to return to the Board because the reason for granting the variance
would be gone. Mr. Seymour agreed, but they still have a narrow lot to build a house
on with RlA standards. Discussion ensued.
Chair Bode agreed that the variance was granted for a remodel. The applicants are
now asking for the same variance, but they are building the same house. In his
opinion, there is no need for a variance. The house can be reconfigured to fit on the
lot. He is not convinced that granting the variance is right for that neighborhood.
Ms. Reid stated that even though the public hearing has been closed, the Board can •
review the Zoning Ordinance to determine the setbacks and frontage for the RlA
district.
Ms. O'Brien stated that she believes the size of lot dictates the size of house. She
doesn't want to see a group of houses that covers all of the property. Mr. Seymour
countered that if she wants a proper sized house for a proper sized lot, this property is
a RlC lot, not a standard RlA lot. Therefore, the RlC setbacks should be followed not
the RlA. Discussion ensued.
Ms. Carlston stated she wanted to look at the Zoning Ordinance. Ms. Carlston stated
the minimum lot frontage in the RlA district is 75 feet and the minimum lot size for
single family dwelling is 9,000 square feet. Mr. Seymour stated that the property is
actually 25 feet narrower than the requirement. Ms. Davidson asked to look at the
requirements for the RlC district. Ms. Carlston stated the minimum lot area is 6,000
square feet and the minimum lot frontage is 50 feet for a single family dwelling. Mr.
Seymour reiterated that the property meets the RlC district standards and the
applicants should be allowed to build according to those standards rather than the RlA.
Discussion ensued.
With no further discussion, the secretary polled the members' votes.
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Mr . Seymour stated he voted "yes." The applicants are between a rock and a hard
place, and the applicants are just trying to build something that looks decent.
Ms. Davidson stated she also voted "yes." It is an exceptionally narrow lot for that zone
district; therefore the applicants should not be held to those standards. The spirit of
the ordinance is to create livable single family residences. This property is exceptionally
narrow and changing the floor plan of the house would be an extra expense and
hardship to the owner. It does not adversely affect the adjacent property now that the
Board is requiring a 3 foot setback on the south, which is more than the wall that was
there before. She stated she wasn't sure it was the least modification, but it is the
same structure that was proposed i n the first variance which the Board granted. She is
taking into account the expense and the hassle for the app licants to redo the floor plan.
They did not purposely find out that the footer was nohexistent.
Ms. Carlston stated she voted "no." It did not meet the second criterion. It does not
observe the spirit of the ordinance. It might be a small lot, but she believes there are
other ways to construct a single family dwelling on the lot without a var iance.
Ms. O'Brien stated she voted "no." The spirit of the ordinance has not been met. It
assumes development conforms to the zone district provisions of RlA. It does not meet
the fifth criter ion. It is not the least modification necessary to grant relief to the
applicant. She does not belief relief is necessary for a 50 foot frontage lot.
Chair Bode stated he voted "no." At the first hearing, he voted yes because the south
wall was existing. Since that time, there have been a number of changes. It does not
meet the second, third or fifth criteria.
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Davidson and Seymour
Bode, Carlston, and O'Brien
None
Rasby and Smith
The Chair announced the variance denied by a 2-3 vote.
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Chair Bode asked for consideration of the Minutes from the August 9, 2000 public
hearing.
Mr. Seymour moved,
Ms. Carlston seconded:
THE MINUTES OF AUGUST 9, 2000 BE APPROVED AS WRITTEN.
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AYES: Bode, Carlston, O'Brien, and Seymour
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: Davidson
ABSENT: Rasby and Smith
The motion carried. The Chair announced the motion approved.
V. APPROVAL OF FINDINGS OF FACT
Mr. Seymour moved;
Ms. Car lston seconded:
THE FINDINGS OF FACT IN CASE #10-2000, CHARLES L. WILLINGHAM, 4233
SOUTH SHERMAN STREET, AND CASE #15-2000, WILLIAM CHANDLER, 4188
SOUTH LOGAN STREET, BE APPROVED AS WRITTEN.
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Bode, Carlston, O'Brien, and Seymour
None.
Davidson
Rasby and Smith
The motion carried. The Chair announced the motion approved.
VII. STAFF ADVISOR'S CHOICE
Ms. Langon stated there were two variance cases for next month. They are located at
4020 and 4030 South Elati Street. She stated that Mr. Seymour had previously
suggested that once the public hearings were completed, the Board adjourn to a
conference room for the discussion portion of the meeting. She asked if the Board,
therefore, would, like to adjourn to a more informal setting to cont i nue the meeting.
Ms. Reid stated that the Board can move to a more comfortable setting and the public is
invited to attend that portion of the meeting as well. Chair Bode stated he would prefer
to conduct all the meetings in a conference room rather than council chambers. Ms.
Reid stated that Council has directed that the Board meet in chambers because it is a
Board of record and must have the meetings recorded on tape. Ms. Reid stated that
the entire meeting needs to be conducted in council chambers in order to be recorded;
that would include staff's choice as well as board's choice. The Board can then adjourn
to a study session for discussion.
VII. CITY ATTORNEY'S CHOICE
Ms. Reid distributed a North Carolina zoning case addressing the parking of a Mac truck
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in a residential subdivision. She felt it was an interesting discussion by the court on a
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parking. Further, in a previous case during testimony, the applicant testified she had
two sheds on her property. Mr. Seymour informed her she was only allowed one shed.
Therefore, the zoning enforcement officer notified Ms. Heideman that she is in violation
and needs to remove the shed or come to the Board for a variance.
IX. BOARD MEMBER'S CHOICE
Ms. O'Brien commended the City for using Bennett's Bar-B-Q at the City's picnic. Ms.
O'Brien asked if it was appropriate for her to ask for staff's position in a case. Mr.
Simpson responded that was part of what staff wished to discuss during the study
session.
Mr. Seymour stated after reading the Englewood Recreation Center was offering a free
day at the recreation center, he suggested to Mr. Simpson and the City Manager that
Boards and Commission members receive free annual passes to the Englewood
Recreation Center.
The Board took a short recess; and reconvened in the Community Development
Conference Room at 9:40 p.m. for a study session.
X. STUDY SESSION
Mr. Simpson stated that a few months ago he assured the Board that he would provide
a senior staff person at all the Board meetings. Ms. Newman will continue to present
cases, but Ms. Langon will now be the Board's main staff contact. Mr. Simpson stated
staff also wished to discuss how they could provide the Board with better information
and improve communication. Ms. Langon stated that she would also like to discuss
when staff speaks at the Board meetings. Discussion ensued.
The Board decided it still wants the applicant to present their case and that staff may
present any additional information and answer questions from the Board after the
applicant has completed testifying. Further, if a Board member feels they need
additional information after reviewing their packet, they should contact Ms. Langon
directly and ask her to present that information at t he hearing. At the hearing, Ms. ·
Langon will inform the Chair she has been asked by the Board to present that additional
information. Ms. O'Brien stated that Community Development should present as much
information as possible, without a recommendation, in the staff report under
department review. The Board agreed; the Board also directed staff that they would
like staff's opinion or recommendation on the case if they ask for it. While they don't
want a recommendation contained in the staff report, if the Board should ask at the
hearing for staff's position, staff should make thei r position known.
Chair Bode stated he, as well as other Board members, would like alternates appointed
to the Board. He stated it is difficult for the applicant when Board members are absent,
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and there is no one to step in. Ms. Reid stated that it is a City Council matter. Mr. •
Simpson suggested staff draft a letter to City Council asking Council to consider the
issue.
Ms. Langon stated she would like to continue holding study sessions after the meetings.
The Board decided it would like to meet every other month for study sessions. Ms.
Langon suggested the Board contact her with issues they would like to discuss.
There was no further business brought before the Board. The meeting was declared
adjourned at 10:30
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