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CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
DECEMBER 3, 1959
The meeting was called to order by Vice-Chairman Kelley at 7:50 P. M.
Members Present: Braun, Hill, Kelley, Schmitt
Lacy, Ex-officio
Members Absent: Jones, Romans
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Minutes for the previous meeting were discussed. Councilmen Hill and Braun stated that
inasmuch as they had not yet received their copies of the minutes, they wished to defer
approval until the next meeting.
N. Fout & 4 Others Subdivision
Approximately Three Blocks N. of Quincy
& W. of Jason
Hearing No. 38-59
(Also see minutes
from February 16,
1956 50 Sept. 28,
1956) .
The Planning Director presented a rough overlay drawing o f a possible subdivision plan of
the subject area. He stated that the diverse ownership and the unwillingness of Norvell
Fout to sell his property for subdivision has caused cons i derable hard feelings in the many
attempts to subdivide this area previously.
He noted that the D.U. Recreation Study calls for the subject area to be used almost entirely
for a neighborhood park. In light of this development there seem to be three possibilities
of developing the area:
1. To extend Quincy Place straight through as it is now stubbed in from
South Lipan Street allowing home sites to be built on the south side
of this new street while developing the remainder of the ground to
the north of the street as a park site.
2. To lay out the entire. area in a similar development as the property
to the north previously owned by the Sangers and Sunderlands, making
full residential use of the ground with the maximum number of potential
1 • building sites.
3. Allow half of the existing ground owned by four owners to be developed
with a cul-de-sac street, leaving the half owned by Norvell Fout to be
developed at a later date with a curved street connecting South Jaron
Street and West Quincy Avenue.
A major difference between Plan 2 and 3 is that Mr. Fout would probably lose a few
potential building sites because of the curbed street development if he does not wish to
go along with the present four owners.
The Planning Director stated that his office is preparing some preliminary sketches to
show the relative merits of each type of development. He said that these would be considered
by the land owners, and then the Planning Commission would begin work on the whole matter.
Planning Commission
City
Master Plan No. 3
Public Buildings
Hearing No. 36-59C
October 22, 1959
November 5, 1959
November 19, 1959
The Planning Director reported on the joint meeting of the School Board and the Planning
Commission November 30th in the City council chamber. All members of the School Board and
the School Superintendent were present with Mr. Lacy, Mr. Kelley, and Mrs. Romans.
The matter of a potential library site in relation to school needs for Flood Junior High
was discussed. Mr. Bishop stated that the school administration had postponed plans for a
library in the new high school addition awaiting the outcome of the D. U. library study to
determine whether or not a joint public and school library was practical, plans went ahead
for the present high school building including the school library.
The Planning Director presented a summation of all considerations bearing on the public
library site at the joint meeting. This included a summary of the meetings between the
Planning Director and the School Superintendent, the Planning Commission, the Planning
Director, and the Library Board and all recommendations of t he D. U. Library Study and the
D. U. Recreation Study that were pertinent to library locat i on.
After considering this report and discussing all factors involved as well as studying an
aerial photo with an overlay showing a downtown circulation plan and a possible need for
connecting South Delaware Street through the City Park in later years, the School Board
agreed that the most practical site for the city library was north and west of the present
City Hall in the City Park.
They conditioned their approval by saying that it did not imply the outright endorsement of
taking South Delaware Street through the City Park. Such a move to connect Delaware Street
should be timed in such a way that it occurs only after many more acres of park land are
acquired and developed throughout the City of Englewood as parks and then only after a clear
need for such an additional street is apparent.
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Planning Office
City
School District Re-Organization
Master Plan No. 4 -Financial
and Population Forecast
Hearing No. 9-59B
March 5, 1959
March 19, 1959
The Planning Director reported that the second half of the joint meeting between the Planning
Commission and the School Board on November 30 was devoted to considering whether or not
the Englewood School Distr:kt should favor the withdrawal of th a t portion of the district lying
from Santa Fe westward in the Scenic View area.
The Planning Director presented preliminary figures of a detailed study projecting develop-
ment in the area to 1980. On the basis of these figures, it appeared that the Scenic View
portion of the School District would not even pay its own way by 1980 because of additional
children to be educated in comparison with anticipated industrial development.
However, the Planning Director cautioned that this was a preliminary estimate and that the
projections would need to be refined before they could be considered valid and worth serious
consideration. It was the feeling of those present at the joint meeting that such refinement
should be made and that the report, a joint one by the Englewood Planning Director and the
School Superintendent, should then be made available for consideration.
After reporting the above happenings at the jofnt meeting, the Planning Director explained
briefly methods used in arriving at the estimates. He explained that a system based on a
development factor (DF) was determined by studying the assessed valuation of improvements
and personal property of industries to their land values.
This study revealed that an industry which has full development of its existing land in
high value improvements (first class) generally has an assessed valuation of improvements
and personal property which is 51 times the land assessed valuation. The DF for an industry
which has a large amount of land with relatively few improvements for full development be-
cause of needed outdoor storage or other considerations (second class) has a DF of 9.
Since land values also increase as utilities become available, the percentage of development
in a given area was applied to the present land assessed valuations to arrive at an annual
future land value as development occurred. The DF then could be applied to this increased
land valuation for a projected total for the future years.
However, the DF itself was modified on the basis of how much first c l ass industry could be
expected compared to second class. In the preliminary findings, two-thirds of the area was
assumed to be logical for second class industry and one-third for first class. This resulted
in an overall DF of 23 for ultimate use within 20 years.
The Planning Director continued to explain the DF as it applied to residential property and
school costs based on the present student annual figure. He explained further that the
basic assessed valuation in the preliminary estimates did not include some $60,000 in
Colorado Central Power and Public Service Company "plant" assessed valuation.
He noted that the projected value for that portion of the Englewood School District in
Scenic View over a twenty-year period was greater than a similar sized area of the City of
Englewood proper had enjoyed in the past twenty years which indicates a certain validity
for the preliminary estimate as a minimum projection.
The Planning Director noted that the preliminary sheet which was provided members of the
Commission should not be cited for any purpose until further projections have been made and
a reasonable result determined.
Mr Schmitt questioned the outcome of disconnecting a portion of Scenic View which would
take wi th it its mill levy for school bonds and attaching it to a consolidated school
district with its own bonds and operating costs. He submitted that this would leave the
Scenic View portion thus consolidated with an exceptionally high mill levy which would in
turn discourage industrial development.
It was agreed that the studyffiould be completed, considering this and other major factors,
and be prepared as soon as possible.
American Municipal Association Meeting
The Planning Director reported on the American Municipal Association panel on transportation
planning for small cities held at the Shirley-Savoy Hotel at 9:30 on December 1. He noted
the highlights of the panel discussion as follows:
1. That any transportation study and program must be on a
continuing basis, not a one-shot deal.
2. Such a program must strive to reach a certain goal, and all
information considered should be in a realistic form which
is understandable and usable.
3. The mayor and city council only can get such a program
started. One good way is to get an interested group to
take an objective look at the City.
4. Beware of adopting solutions that were studied and found
practical in other communities without a thorough valuation
of your own needs.
5. Methods of financing off-street parking presented revealed
nothing new that the City of Englewood has not already ex-
plored in striving for a solution for its own problem. To
carry out a study program there should be a technical com-
mittee comprised o f people such as the city manager, city
engineer, and the city attorney to guide the research
work. There should also be a citizens' advisory committee
or the planning commission to insure that the plan and
program are realisitic from the citizens' point of view.
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ICRPC Meeting Report
The Planning Director stated that the ICRPC Associate Membership meeting had been held on
December 1 in Westminster. He stated that the meeting was primarily for communities in
the Clear Creek basin and concerned the Metropolitan Sanitation Plan exclusively. The
Planning Director did not attend this meeting since he had heard this presentation three
times previously and since the Planning Commission had also considered the program and
recommended endorsement of same to City Council previously.
There being no further business to come before the Planning and Zoning Commission, the
meeting adjourned at 9:15 P. M.
APPROVED: /S / J. M.Lacy
Jewell M. Banfield
Recording Secretary
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CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
DECEMBER 17, 1959
The meeting was called to order by CThairman Jones at 8:45 P. M.
Members Present: Braun, Hill, Jones, Kelley, Romans, Schmitt
Members Absent: None
Minutes of the previous two meetings were considered.
Braun moved:
Hill seconded: That the minutes of November 19 and December 3, 1959, be approved
as written.
Ayes: Braun, Hill, Jones, Kelley, Romans, Schmitt
Nays: None
Absent: None
Richard Simon, Atty.
3311 S. Broadway
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Rezoning
Southwest Corner of Hywy. #70
& s. Clarkson
Hearing No. 34-59D
October 8, 1959
October 22, 1959
November 5, 19!:9
November 19, 1959
The Planning Director reported that the City Council had accepted the Planning Commission
recommendation that a land economics study be made of the area bounded by Highway 70,
Little Dry Creek, South Clarkson Street and South Logan Street.
He stated that in talking with George Nez and John McLucas of ICRPC and Jim Small of the
Denver Planning Office, the following outline for such a study was confirmed to be practical
to answer the immediate question and fit into a future larger area study for possible
revision of the zoning ordinance:
Primary Question •... "What is the highest value use consistent
with the best interests of the community
in this area?"
Two questions are to be answered for each of three possible zoning
uses:
1. What would be the impact on the value of
similarly zoned areas in the City?
2. What would be the relative ·increase in value
of land and improvements in the subject area?
The three possibilities:
1. If area is zoned for multiple-family use.
2. If land is zoned for commercial use.
3. If land is zoned for a com b ination of these or
other zones.
The parties consulted suggested that three appraisers in the Denver area would be qualified
to perform this study. After discussion, the Planning Commission agreed that these
individuals should be contacted in the order listed:
1. Watson A. Bowes.
2. John Foster.
3. Frank Mannix.
Five specific background items will be provided to the consultant selected to help picture
the City's consideration to date: