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Planning Office
City
Planning Conference
The Planning Director reported that the National Planning Conference of the American Society
of Planning Officials is scheduled for May 10 -14 in Minneapolis. The Planning budget does
not provide funds to send the Planning Director to this conference and therefore the Planning
Director does not intent to be present.
Mr. Braun stated that he had requested an estimate of costs from the Planning Director to
send all members of the Planning Commission by automobile to the conference. The estimate
of cost indicates that a round trip travel cost for each of two cars at $85.00 and total
expenses per person of $160.00 each for a total of $1,290.00 if all Planning Commissioners
and the Planning Director could make the trip. The Planning Director stated that it was
his opinion that although the conference would be excellent background and technical training
for all Planning Commission members, it would seem odd that the City could suddenly allocate
$1,290.00 for such conference when only $5,000.00 was felt justified for the entire first
year of the Master Plan work.
A poll of the members indicated the Planning Director and all except Mr. Kelley and Mr. Jones
said they would be able to attend if the money were forth~oming. Mr. Jones and Mr. Kelley
said they may be able to attend, but would have to confirm their decision later.
There being no further business to come before the City Planning and Zoning Commission, the
meeting was adjourned at 11:30 P. M.
Jewell M. Banfield
Recording Secretary
Approved J. M. Lacy
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CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
March 5, 1959
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Jones at 8:10 P. M.
Members Present: Braun, Hill, Jones, Kelley, Romans, Schmitt, and Lacy, Ex-Officio
Members Absent: None
Walter M. Boggs
4301 S. Bannock
Subdivision
West Side of South Half 4600
Block South Galapago
Hearing No. 8-59
The Planning Director presented a preliminary design for a four-lot subdivision in the sub-
ject area. He stated that the drawing had been submitted to the Utilities Department and
Public Works Department and had been approved by both. He stated that Mr. Boggs, real estate
agent who was submitting the preliminary design, had asked that the frontage of the four
lots be apportioned at 78' for three lots and 81.3' for the corner lot instead of as shown
on the presented drawing.
Hill moved:
Schmitt seconded: That the preliminary design of the subdivision be appr01ed if all sub-
division regulations are observed.
Ayes: Braun, Hill, Jones, Kelley, Romans, Schmitt
Nays: None
Absent: None
Planning Office
City
Amendments to Zoning and Traffic
Ordinances
Hearing No. 35-58
August 20, 1958
November 6, 1958
November 20, 1958
December 18, 1958
The Planning Director stated that the City Attorney, Building Inspector, City Manager, and
Police Chief had studied a tentative amendment to abate traffic visibility hazards at inter-
sections. He said the amendment is now being redrafted for additional study by the City
Attorney before being presented to the City Council.
Planning Office
City
Amendment to Uniform System of
Subdivision Regulations
Hearing No. 44-58A
(Also See Hearing
No. 40-58, Nov.
20, 1958).
December 18, 1958
The Planning Director stated that the tentative amendment as referred to the City Manager
and City Attorney by the Planning ~nd Zoning Commission had been modified slightly by the
City Manager and approved in substance by the City Attorney. A redraft of the proposal will
be available for Planning Commission reconsideration at the next meeting.
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Planning Commission
Planning Director
General Zoning Amendments
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Hearing No. 3-59C
(Also Joint Meetings
of January 14, 1959
and February 25, 1959)
(Also see Hearing No.
35-58-B Nov. 20)
January 22, 1959
February 5, 1959
February 19, 1959
A memorandum concerning "Further Consideration of Certain Zoning Ordinance Amendments"
dated March 2, 1959, was considered in detail. All sections were approved with minor
changes with the exception of provisions relating to gas oline and oil service stations,
automobile sales and automobile repair.
The Planning ~irector and Mr. Jones took the position that automobile repair is a
traditional and necessary accessory use to a new car sales operation and that new car
sales need locations in retail commercial areas for display purposes.
Mr. Schmitt said he felt that allowing the "big operator" who also sells new cars to c onduct
a repair operation in downtown areas while prohibiting automobile repair shops as such was
a discrimination against the smaller repair operators. He suggested that possibly the
repair operation in a downtown commercial zone could be further ,c o n trolled and and
regulated by specifications for doing repair work only indoors and with c~rtain other
requirements to control noise, odor, etc.
Mr. Jones stated that an automobile repair shop as such is not a compatible commercial use
in a retail commercial district because of the noise, and actual working on cars out of
doors that seems to be the mode of operation for most automobile repair shops in Englewood.
Mr. Braun said that he felt noise and odor from an automobile repair shop were equally as
obnoxious whether they came from a large shop as an accessory use to new car sales or
whether from a small repair shop. He also questioned the possibility of automobile
repair shops offering one new car for sale in order to use a loophole in the form of
purporting to offer new car sales as a primary use.
Mr. Kelley stated that he agreed with the City Attorney's stand that if automobile repairing
is to be prohibited in a certain zone, it must be prohibited entirely and not only when
conducted as a principal use. The Planning Director stated that recent conference with
the City Attorney revealed that he feels very strongly that allowing automobile repair as an
accessory use and not as a permitted use would be clearly legal discrimination.
Mr. Hill stated that perhaps an additional commercial zone was needed in which new car sales
and repair and automobile repair as such could be located and such new zone would be an
intermediate commercial zone between the present C-1 and C-2. Mr. Jones and the Planning
Director stated that any attempt to regulate use on the basis of the "big operator" versus
the "little guy" is not in the realm of planning.
The matter of compatible commercial uses and land planning is of utmost importance as a
guide for the investment of private dollars which will ultimately provide sound returns
for the investor and the community. In light of the varied opinions and legal questionability
of the proposed amendment, it was agreed that the zoning ordinance provision for automobile
sales and repair should b e left alone as it now stands.
Discussion on the definition of gasoline and oil service stations revealed that tentative
limitations on automobile repair as an accessory use to service stations were not realistic.
It was further agreed that limiting the size of service bays likewise tended to place an
arbitrary limitation on the size of the business. Therefore, these provisions were removed
from the tentative amendment as were provisions restricting sale of vehicles from service
station premises.
Mr. Braun commented that present off-street parking provisions place b anks in the same
category with offices instead of retail operations. He felt this was not proper and should
be changed.
The Planning Director suggested that a piecemeal change of off-street parking requirements
is not wise and may possibly be illegal. He also stated that the necessary study and re-
search to effect a proper change would be impossible with present staff and current critical
work on the master plan as a preliminary to the first capital improvements required by
charter in July of 1959.
Mr. Jones stated that he felt that banks as a business have led in providing proper business
and customer parking, and that current planning problems are much more pressing than a re-
designation of parking spaces for banks. He said that until the concept of off-street
parking h as ' been stabilized or ruled out b y the Colorado Supreme Court, theCity might be
wasting its time in doing any changing of the off-street parking requirements.
Planning Commission
Planning Director
Institute for Planning Officials
Two Day Conference at Colorado
University March 6th and 7th
Hearing No. 7-59A
The Planning Director stated that funds were available at the rate of $3.00 per vehicle per
round trip for those attending the conference and that all conference meals and registration
would be paid for. ($2.00 for each of two luncheons and $3.00 for the Friday n:ight dinner.
The following members indicated they would attend both days of the conference:
H. Reece Braun, Dorothy Romans, Lee Jones, and Joe Lacy.
Sam Hill said he intended to be present for the Friday afternoon session and Bob Kelley
said he would be present for the Saturday morning session only. Sam Hill and Lee Jones
indicated they would take care of their own expenses except for the registration fee be-
cause of an indefinite personal schedule.
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Planning Off ice
City
ASPO Planning Conference
Mr. Braun reported that Council had informally considered sending all Planning and Zoning
Commission members to the National ASPO Conference in Minneapolis. He reported that al-
though the sending of all Commission members was denied by an informal poll of five to
four, it was the feeling that perhaps a few members might be able to attend if so recommended
by the Planning and Zoning Commission.
The Planning Director presented a memorandum previ·ously sent to the City Manager and
transmitted by the Manager to the Council as follows:
"To:
From:
Mr. L. R. Rudd
Mr. Joe M. Lacy February 27, 1959
NATIONAL PLANNING CONFERENCE
We have not received the schedule for the State Planning Institute which most of the Planning
Commissioners will attend at budgeted expense. A copy of this program is attached.
It appears that the movement to send Planning Commissioners to the National Conference at
Minneapolis in May may still be alive and would cost as much additional "planning" money
as $1,290.00.
I feel it is important that I make a recommendation in this matter in light of the bare
Master Plan budget account for 1959 even though none of the National Conference money would
come from the present budgeted planning funds.
The program for the State Conference which includes all pertinent information which small
municipal Planning Commission members could practically digest is an excellent agenda. Not
only does it present the local angle but also brings National authorities to the conference
which is small enough that all Commission members will have an opportunity to talk personally
with these National leaders. Money for this conference is budgeted and is to be used to
keep our Planning Commissioners up-to-date in planning. To contemplate sending the same
Commissioners to a National Conference and use $1,290.00 of unbudgeted money for this phase
of planning when we so critically need at least $1,290.00 more toward the Master Plan seems
completely unjustified.
Perhaps this memorandum may serve as the 'administrator's view' as the whole subject reaches
Council in an official way.
Respectfu]]y,
/S / JOE M. LACY
Planning and Traffic Director"
In further discussion it was felt that it would be valuable ror a few commissioners to attend
the conference if their personal business permitted. The Planning Director asked the Council
members of the Commission if they felt that additional funds for technical aid might be forth-
coming if n ee .'ed for Master Plan work if requested by the Planning Commission. Mr. Braun
and Mr. Hill indicated that they felt Council would approve such a specific request for funds
if strongly recommended by the Planning Commission.
Mr. Braun stated that he would be able to attend the five-day conference plus four days travel
time if funds were appropriated. The Planning Director stated that the Master Plan work was
too indefinite at this time to make a firm committment, but that it is possible that he too
could attend over the nine-day period. None of the other Planning Commissioners indicated
that they would be able to attend the conference.
Kelley moved:
Hill seconded: That the Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to City Council that
they consider requesting Mr. Braun and Mr. Lacy to attend the ASPO
Conference and suggest that the City defer the expenses.
Ayes : Braun, Hill, Jones, Kelley, Romans, Schmitt
Nays: None
Absent: None
Planning Office
City
School District Re-organization Hearing No. 9-59
The Planning Director reported that technical research and mapping is under way to provide
data on assessed value, existing school districts, projected land use and projected assessed
land evaluations in the four school districts now under consideration for re-organization in
the northwest corner of Arapahoe County. The Planning Director said such data would be made
available as soon as possible.
Planning Off ice
City
Liaison Between Planning and Zoning Commission
And Board of Adjustment and Appeals
The Planning Director reported that the Board of Adjustment and Appeals has not been able
to make a decision on the location of curb, gutter, and sidewalk in the 3600 block on South
Sherman for the 1959 paving District. This decision has been delayed because theBoard of
Adjustment and Appeals has not received an indication from the Planning a Ld Zoning Com-
mission setting forth planning considerations in connection with the request for locating
sidewalks along the existing curbs.
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The Planning Director presente d the following letter summarizing all known planning pro-
jections which may bear on the requested Board of Adjustment and Appeals decision:
"TO: March 6, 1959
FROM:
BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND APPEALS
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
Gentlemen:
At your request we have compiled all known planning considerations which would bear upon
the placement of sidewalks on either side of the 3600 block of South Sherman Street. These
considerations are the result of current research and projected trends which are not definite
enough to be seriously considered in any decisions on subjects such as the one before you.
I. TRAFFIC
(1) The Little Dry Creek Shopping Center is the beginning of commercial
in the southeast quadrant of Englewood's downtown commercial area.
ments are already being planned.
development
Other develop-
(2) The traffic generated by Little Dry Creek Shopping Center and its surfaced park-
ing lot providing a connector from the Highway No. 70 curb cut and South Sherman
Street north of Little Dry Creek will cause a need for a signal installation at
East Ham pden Avenue and South Sherman Street during 1959.
(3) The above two items will in turn provide heavy justification for the construction
of a bridge across Little Dry Creek at South Sherman Street which will undoubtedly
be scheduled in the 1960 Capital Improvements budget.
(4) Once the bridge is installed, Sherman Street will then become a through street
from East Quincy Avenue to E a st Floyd Avenue in order to accommodate commercial
traffic from south-east Englewood and Arapahoe County.
(5) In the early stages of the Master Street Plan, Kenyon Avenue is slated to become
the southern boundary of the outer belt of theEnglewood downtown commercial area.
This means that the present trend of heavy traffic flowing on and off of Kenyon
Avenue as a collector for South Logan Street and South Broadway traffic t o be
routed on and off of Highway No. 70 will be heavily increased.
(6) This trend will mean that . South Sherman Street from Kenyon Avenue into downtown
Englewood will carry substantially heavier traffi~ than the rest of South Sh~man
Street from Kenyon Avenue to East Quincy Avenue.
(7) This increased traffic .will critically need additional traveled wid t h of street
in the 3600 block. Our projections indicate that the removal of on-street park-
ing in this one block would satisfy this additional width need for as long as
five years. Probably in 1966 the street would have to be widened to the 44' width.
II. PEDESTRIANS.
(1) The present Master Street Plan of the City adopted in 1951 specifies separate 4'
sidewalks on arterial streets in order to provide additional safety for pedestrians
walking along side an arterial street which carries large volumes of f ast movin g
traffic.
(2) At present, few school children walk in the 3600 bl ock o f South Sherman Street be-
cause there is no protected pedestrian crossing ove r Highw a y No. 70 ~ Most
children who live in the northeast part of Englewood cros s either on Broadway or
South Logan Street.
(3) When the anticipated Sherman Street bridge and signals at Sherman Street and
Highway No. 70 are installed, many more children will cross at this more direct
point to reach Flood Junior High School thereby increasing school pedestrian
traffic in the subject area.
(4) Another pedestrian trend which is at present non-existent will also develop with
the new protected crossing. This use will be by householders who will wish to
walk to the Little Dry Creek Shopping Center for normal household shopping from
the apartment units located in the 3600 block of South Sherman Street and sur-
rounding area.
III. COSTS.
(1) Since the existing curb and gutter was installed under City permit, current
policies require that the City must pay the entire cost of removing such curb and
gutter and installing similar facilities at a wider street width, regardless of
when it is done or whether it is under a paving district or not.
(2) This policy applies likewise to sidewalks if they now exist. If they are installed
against the curb in 1959, the City will have to pay the bill for their inevitable
removal and re-installation at the wider width.
(3) The street can feasibly be paved at the present width and widened at a future date
at City cost without disturbing the 1959 paving in any way.
These considerations are submitted to you as all of the factors that can be definitely
foreseen at this time in relation to the 3600 block on South Sherman Street.
FOR THE CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
Respectfully, re L
/S/ JOE M. LACY
Planning and Tra f fic Director"
Braun moved:
Romans seconded :. That the letter should be transmitted immediately to the Board of
Adjustrrent and Appeals as the requested Planning Commission communication
on the subject.
Ayes: Braun, Hill, Jones , Kelley , Romans, Schmitt
Nays: None
Absent: None
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There being no further business to come before the City Planning and Zoning Commission, the
meeting was adjourned at 11:40 P. M.
Jewell M. Banfield
Recording Secretary
Approved: /S / J. M. Lacy
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MEMORANDUM TO THE ENGLEWOOD CITY COUNCIL REGARDING ACTION OR RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
Date:
Subject:
Recommendation:
March 5, 1959
ASPO Planning Conference
That the Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to City Council that
they consider requesting Mr. Braun and Mr. Lacy to attend the ASPO
Conference and suggest the City defer the expenses.
Respectfully su b mitted,
By order of the City Planning
and Zoning Commission
Jewell M. Banfield
Recording Secretary
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CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
MARCH 19, 1959
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Jones at 8:15 P. M.
Members Present: Braun, Hill, Jones, Kelley, Romans, Schmitt, and Lacy, Ex-officio
Members Absent: None
Planning Off ice
City
Master Plan No. 5 Hearing No. 10-59
Downtown One-Way Street Plan
The Planning Director presented a three-year program for installing one-way streets in the
downtown Englewood area. He explained the relationship of the Englewood Commercial area to
highway development and residential development in Englewood's master plan area.
The program calls for increasing the capacity for inflowing eastbound traffic off of Highway
70 by four times. This would be accomplished in July of 1959 by making West Hampden Avenue
between South Bannock and South Acoma Streets one way east, 3400 block of South Acoma one way
north and 3400 block of South Bannock one way south. The installation of signals at West
Girard Avenue and South Acoma and South Bannock Streets would also be required.
In 1960 Hampden Avenue would be extended one way east from South Acoma acrossSouth Broadway
to South Lincoln. At the same time Girard Avenue would be made one way west from South
Lincoln Street to South Bannock Street. Angle parking on Broadway would have to be eliminated
to provide left turn circulation off of Broadway at Hampden Avenue and Girard Avenue in this
stage.
The 1960 phase also includes tentative purchase of vacant land in the north half of the 3400
block b etween South Lincoln and South Sherman Streets for development as free off-street
parking. The preliminary plan calls for City purchase of the land with development of a free
parking garage to be financed by a special improvement parking district paid for by a mill
levy on benefiting commercial property.
Other capital improvements needed in 1960 include a Sherman Street bridge over Little Dry
Creek and widening of existing bridges over Little Dry Creek at South Bannock Street and
West Hampden Avenue. A bridge on Dartmouth Avenue over the South Platte River and grade
separation at Santa Fe Drive are also possibilities for 1960 and de f iftite requirements
for 1961.
The 1961 stage includes extension of West Hampden one way east to South Sherman Street and
West Girard one way west to South Sherman Street. The complete one-waying of South Bannock
from Dartmouth to Girard southbound and South Acoma Street from Dartmouth to Girard northbound
would al s o be necessary when the Dartmouth bridge and overpass are completed.
In the discussion that followed, Mr. Hill suggested a temporary measure of eliminating part
of the angle parking on South Broadway to allow left turns east and west at Girard Avenue.
The Planning Director explained that such a movement would eliminate angle parking for one-
third of the block north and south from Gfrard on Broadway and still would cause left turn
bottlenecks during peak hours as traffic backed up beyond the one-third block left turn
pockets. He suggested that implementing part of the 1960 phase of the one-way street system
in 1959 to extend Hampden and Girard one way east and west, respectively, to Lincoln would
allow the left turns desired by commercial interests in the Englewood area.
The Planning Director explained that large overhead reflectorized signs are planned at
Mansfield Avenue and South Broadway and Eastman Avenue and South Broadway suggesting to
mo t ori ts to turn west prior to Kenyon or east at Floyd if they had business west of
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