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Home My WebLink About2011-04-19 PZC MINUTES·~ • • • Planning and Zo nin g Commission Stu dy Session Case #2009-05 , Sign Cod e Amendments, Youth Member Di scussion April 19 ,20 11 Page I of 4 CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING April 19, 2011 Minutes and audio are available at: http://www.englewoodgov.org/Index.aspx?page=l52 I. CALL TO ORDER L;] The r eg ul a r meeting of th e City Planning and Zoning Commission was ca ll ed t o order at 7:00 p .m. in the City Council Conference Room of the En gl ewood C iv i c Ce nter, Cha ir Knoth pr es idin g. Present: Abse nt: Staff: Bleile, Roth , King, Welker, Knoth, Fish, Calonder, Brick Kinton (a lternate ) Krieger (exc used ) Tricia Langon, Senior Plann er Na n cy Reid, Assistant City Attorney II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Ap ril 5, 2011 l~ Mr. Fis h moved: Mr. Welker seco nd ed: TO APPROVE THE APRIL 5, 20 11 MI NUTES Cha ir Knoth asked if there were any modifications or co rre c tion s. The re we r e non e. AYES: NAYS: ABS TAIN: ABSEN T: Roth , Welker, Knoth, Fish , King, Calonder, Brick None Bleile Krieger Motion ca rri ed . • • • Planning and Zo nin g Commission Study Session Case #2009 -05, Sign Code Amendments, Youth Member Di sc u ssio n April 19 , 2 011 P age 2 of 4 Ill. STUDY SESSION ~ SIGN CODE AMENDMENTS Ms. Lan go n st ated t o ni ght's discussion w ill ce nte r on signs th at a re exe mpt from permits. She p rese nt ed a Pow e rP o int sli de show show in g the different types of sig n s. She refere n ced the current UDC t ex t for exe mpt sign s w ith co mm en ts and options for add ress in g these types of sig ns that was inclu ded i n the m ee tin g packet. Areas di sc u ssed and co n se n su s includ ed: [!] • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • Bu ll etin Boards: Leave as is . Cafe Table Umbrellas: D o n't reg ul at e Job Site: Change siz es to 6 SF for res i dentia l and 24 SF for co mm e r c ial, on site for duration of wo rk , one per street frontage Dri ve -thru Menu Boards : Must be in drive lan e, ma x imum 8 ' h ei gh t, two on a lane, associated w ith an order box, no maximum area Election Signs: Lea ve as is Fla gs: No h eig ht res tri ction on poles, maximum numb e r on site is 5, leave res t as is Garage Sa les: Leave as is Ho li da y Decorations: Leave as is Illumin ated Buildings: Leave as is Private Parki n g o r Traffic Directions: Leave as is Publi c In forma ti on and Reg ul atory Signs: Max imum size 8 SF Safety Warning Signs: Maximum size 8 SF Sale , Lease, Rent Sign s: Add M e dical Di st ri ct, res t as is Scoreboards: Leave as is Signs in th e Publi c Right-of-Way and Signs Requir ed by La w: add "a nd /o r th eir va ri o u s eve nts" t o the t ex t for South Broadway ID ba nn e r, address num bers: in crease size to 2 SF for res id en ti al a nd 32 SF for Co mm ercial • Signs Within Buildings: Leave as is • Vehicle Co n sum er Informati o n : Leave as is • Vending Machines: Le ave as is • Works of Art: Leave as is • Mi sce ll aneous Non-illuminated Signs: Maximum of 1 SF Ms . Lan go n stated Staff is also preparing an illustr at ed sig n code gui de to go along w ith th e new Ord in ance. A n exa mpl e w ill be bro u ght to th e n ex t m ee tin g. She n o t ed the gu ide wo uld not be pa rt of th e Ordinance; it wou ld be a D epa rtm en t document. • • • Planning a nd Zoning Commission Study Sess ion Case #2009-05, Sign Code Amendments , Youth Member Discussion April 19 , 20 11 Page3o f4 YOUTH MEMBER DISCUSSION [1lJ Conse n sus was to requ es t City Council consider allowing a youth m embe r on the Planning a nd Zo ning Commission. This discussion will continue at a futur e meeting after Chair Knoth prepares a draft lette r outlining the reasons for a youth member. IV. PUBLIC FORUM [l1J Mr. Doug Cohen and Mr. Steve Schalk each commented on tonight's sign code discussion. Comme nts included: • • • • • • • • • • • Clarification was requested on the size of door stickers. Signs can be no more than 1 square foot each. Plannin g and Zoning has the opportunity to change the anti business rules that have been a problem for businesses. Creation of a liberal sign code would be a benefit to busin esses . There are more empty storefronts south of Yale than north; the sign code is a part of that problem. Lik ed the Street Graphics concept presented at a past m eet in g . Felt the Commission is trying to make things easier rather than hard er for th e business com munity . The proposed LED billboard at Broadway and Englewood Parkw ay was mentioned. Murals need to be removed from the sign code and hav e a different code entirely. The restrictions for iconic signs need to be lessened. A 42 in ch projection is not e nough; awning can protrude much further. City isn 't allowing much creativity for business owners; sign code is too restrictiv e, needs to be more liberal. Felt most people will not abuse the code, but a few may . V. DIRECTOR'S CHOICE [l1J Dire c tor White was not present. VI. STAFF'S CHOICE [1lJ Ms. Langon provided an update on future meetings: May 3: May 17: Jun e 7: Medical District Phase II Study Session Youth Member discussion continu ed MYCP Discussion, Study Session Sign Code Amendments Study Session • • • Pl annin g and Zo ni ng Commi ss ion St ud y Sess ion Case #2009-05 , Si gn Code Amendments, Youth M emb er Di scuss ion Apri l 19, 2 0 11 Page 4 o f 4 Ju n e 2 1: Si gn Code Am e n d m e nts Stud y Sess io n VII. AlTORNEY'S CHOICE ~ M s. Reid had n o thin g f urth e r to repo rt. VIII. COMMISSIONER'S CHOICE [!] Commi ss io n e rs res p o n ded t o Mr. C oh en 's and M r. Sc halk 's co m m e nts. Ev eryo n e ex pre ssed their t han k s t o both fo r attendin g th e m ee tin g an d p rov idin g sa i d co mm ents. Oth e r c omme nts in cl u de d: • V as t m aj o rity of b u sin esses are responsibl e and w ill do w hat t h ey n ee d to do, b ut th ere i s always th ose f ew w ho ruin things for eve rybod y; t hat's where t h e limitati o n s co m e into p lay . • • • • • • • • • • C iti ze n s h ave an inte rest in w hat th eir c ity lo o ks lik e . Th e c itize n s ca n help ide ntify th ose wh o abus e th e rul es by n otif y in g staff. In p ut fr o m th e b u sin ess co mmunity is im po rtant a n d t he Co mmi ss ion do es n o t ge t th at input. Co mmi ss io n e rs wea r seve ral hat s at th e m eetin gs: as a c it ize n, b ri ng th e i r own v i ews an d w hat is b est fo r th e C ity; th ey ar e som et ime s co m p leme nt a ry and so m etim es th ey co nfli c t. App rec iat ed th e busin ess v i ewpo in t th e gu ests b ro u ght. T h e b u sin ess envi ro nm e nt in th e c ity n eed s to th ri ve . Comm iss i o n is an d has loo k ed at electro ni c si gns and be li ev es th ey are app rop ri at e in En glewoo d . As reg ul at o rs, th e Co mmi ss io n is try in g to wr ite som et h i n g that is enfo rceab l e. G u es t s we re in v ited t o atte nd f uture m ee tin gs a n d c o m m e nt on what is b ei n g proposed. Co mmi ss ion n eeds t o be awa re th at va ri an ce s cos t m o n ey an d t ak e tim e . T h e Co m m iss io n th an ked th e reco rdin g sec r et a ry rega rd in g th e n ew fo rmat of t h e m i n ut es; t h e rece nt mi n utes have bee n ve ry we ll do n e. Sin ce M s. Kri ege r has mi ssed seve ral m ee tin gs, t h e Co mmi ss io n asked th at sh e b e c ontac t ed to see if sh e is abl e t o co ntinu e se rvin g .