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CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
April 19, 2005
CALL TO ORDER
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at
7:00 p.m. in the City Council Chambers of the Englewood Civic Center, Chair Krieger
presiding.
Present:
Absent:
Staff :
Bleile, Diekmeier, Hunt, Krieger, Mosteller, Roth , Schum , Welker
None
Mark Graham, Senior Planner
Tricia Langon , Senior Planner
Nancy Reid , Assistant City Attorney
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
April 5, 2005
Mr. Roth moved:
Mr. Bleile seconded : TO APPROVE THE APRIL 5, 2005 MI N UTES .
Mr. Hunt stated he had a correction on Page 7 of the Minutes. H e stated he should be
indicated as present at the study session. Mr. Roth and Mr. Bleil e accepted the fri e ndl y
amendment.
AYES :
NAYS:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Bleile, Diekmeier, Hunt, Krieger, Mosteller, Schum , Roth , Welk er
None
None
None
Motion carried .
Ill. APPROVAL OF FINDINGS OF FACT
Case #2004-33 Fence Ordinance
Mr. Hunt stated he had a correction to the Findings of _Fact on Page 3. His name should be
inserted into the "Ayes " for the vote on the motion.
Mr. Hunt moved;
Ms. Mosteller seconded: TO APPROVE THE FINDINGS OF FACT IN CASE #2 004-3 3
FENCE ORDINANCE AS AMENDED .
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AYES:
NAYS:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Bleile, Diekmeier, Hunt, Krieger, Mosteller, Schum, Roth, Welker
None
None
None
Motion carried.
IV. PUBLIC HEARING
Case #2004-41 MU-B-2 Setbacks
Chair Krieger stated Case #2004-41 is a continued public hearing on MU-B-2 Setbacks.
Mark Graham, Senior Planner was sworn in. The issue is a proposal to provide relief to
four uses within the MU-B-2 zone district: sidewalk cafes, additions to existing buildings,
deep commercial properties, and drive-thru uses.
The Burt dealerships support the proposal and approached City Council to provide relief in
their situation, which was an addition to an existing building on a deep commercial lot to
the Chevrolet and Toyota dealerships. They are on record in support of the change.
Council provided some temporary relief to them and provided direction to staff to make
the modifications that are currently being proposed. Through the course of the last few
months, staff has made those modifications.
The goal of a strong development edge is to provide safety and well being for citizens . The
four listed land uses are uses by right in the zone district. The proposal provides a design
edge which is attractive in the commercial zone.
In Table 16-6-1.1, Footnote. No. 4 was added and the language for the footnote was
specifically added. In the Ordinance, the title was adjusted to remove the reference to
residential uses and to make it more broadly applicable to a business use. In the final
section, CS, the entire section was added which lists the four uses which may app ly for the
exception and the language suggesting that the City will provide relief from the front
setback requirement if a strong development edge is provided.
Mr. Graham stated there is also a policy document that is also included which shows the
minimum section of the strong development edge will typically be 11 feet unless there is a
drive aisle or parking behind the development edge. In that particular case, it will be a 16
foot cross section . That policy will guide the development review staff as they review site
plans for building additions or new buildings that meet the criteria.
The areas affected are all MU-B-2 zoned areas, primarily South Broadway with the
exception of the downtown; Evans Avenue (Zuni to Raritan); Old Hampden (east of Logan
to Lafayette); south side of Hampden/US 285 (Cherokee to Elati ); Federal Boulevard (south
of Chenango to Belleview ); and Cornerstone Park which straddles Belleview east of
Windermere .
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Mr. Graham stated the staff report goes into some detail regarding the expectations for the
5 to 10 foot setback, including the need for such amenities as walls, the circumstances
where the wall needs to be solid adjacent to a drive aisle or parking lot or instances where
it could be the standard Englewood fence, and also that the area would need to be
landscaped according to the Landscape Ordinance. In the case of the setback greater than
10 feet, it talks about adding the 5 feet of width and landscaping it according to the
Ordinance.
It is anticipated that the fencing and screening will meet the Fence Ordinance _ _o there are
no exceptions proposed . There may also be requirements for Encroachment Agreements in
some instances for the walls, and the development review staff is aware of that possibility.
Mr. Graham reiterated that the goal is to provide the strong development edge to make the
business district attractive to motorists and pedestrians. Staff has added several conditions
based on the last study session with the Commission. The six requirements are listed in the
policy entitled "Strong Development Edge." The first details the minimum widths which
have already discussed, but it also anticipates that if there is not sufficient right-of-way, the
City will exact an easement for the sidewalk. The second requirement is related to
achieving a regular rhythm of vertical elements such as street trees or potentially street
lights as part of the design concept. The third requirement is that the building shall be
enhanced with brick or stucco and shall also be part of achieving a strong development
edge. The fourth is a definition which is necessary to understand how much of the building
needs to meet the minimum setback or they would fall into the category of requesting relief
and providing the strong development edge; the number proposed is 40% of the building
must meet the 0-5 foot setback. The fifth notes that an applicant may still seek relief
through the Landscape Ordinance for alternative compliance . The final requirement is that
block corners and entrance features should be enhanced.
Mr. Graham stated staff requests the Commission take public testimon y and requests the
Commission approve an amendment to the Zoning Ordinance accepting the changes. Mr.
Graham confirmed that proof of publication was provided when the public hearing was
opened. The secretary confirmed that it was entered into the record .
Mr. Welker moved;
Ms. Mosteller seconded: TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE #2004-41
MU-B-2 SETBACKS
AYES:
NAYS:
Bleile, Diekmeier, Hunt, Krieger, Mosteller, Schum, Roth , Welker
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
Motion carried .
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Mr. Roth moved;
Mr. Hunt: TO FORWARD CASE #2004-41 MU-B-2 SETBACKS TO
CITY COUNCIL WITH A FAVORABLE
RECOMMENDATION.
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSTAIN :
ABSENT :
Bleile, Diekmeier, Hunt, Krieger, Mosteller, Schum , Roth , Welker
None
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None
Motion carried.
V. PUBLIC HEARING
Case #2005-05 UDC Housekeeping Amendments
Chair Krieger introduced Case #2004-3 3 stating it is a public hearing on the Unified
Development Code Housekeeping Amendments . She asked for a motion to open the
public hearing.
Mr. Welker moved;
Mr. Hunt seconded: TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE #2005-05,
UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE HOUSEKEEPING
AMENDMENTS .
AYES :
NAYS:
Bleile, Diekmeier, Hunt, Krieger, Mosteller, Roth , Schum , Welker
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
Motion carried.
Tricia Langon, Senior Planner was sworn in. Ms . Langon stated she prev iousl y submitted
the proof of publication to the recording secretary which noticed the public hearing in the
Englewood Herald on April 1, 2005 and the staff report has also been entered into the
record. The request is to review the proposed amendments to the Unified Development
Code, take public testimony, and provide comments on the proposed amendments .
For background information, Ms. Langon stated the Unified Development Code (UDC) was
adopted in 2004; it was the first major rewrite of the zoning and subdivision regulations in
approximately 20 years in the City. The project reformatted, reorganized, and updated the
Code as well as established new regulations. It was anticipated at that time, because of the
size of the document and such a major rewrite, that small oversights and errors were
inevitable and would be addressed through future "housekeeping" or updating
amendments .
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The proposed amendments have been considered by the Commission at an earlier study
sessions and are outlined in the staff report. They are designed to correct omissions, to
provide clarity to existing regulations, and to provide consistency to the remainder of Title
16 and the Municipal Code. There is new material in the amendments which were
included because they were deemed small additions to the Code which did not warrant the
full ordinance process. Those additions are the internet sales use included under "New
Retail Sales and Service" and permitted projections into the setback for mechanical
equipment and for handicapped access ramps. The projections into the setback has been a
longstanding policy the City has had and the addition codifies the policy. The other new
material is a lapse of approval which is a termination of postponed cases after 180 days.
The 180 days is similar to the 180 day timeframe for expiration of building permits which
are inactive and expiration of variances that are not acted upon. These would only be
cases that for some reason could not be carried out. It provides the City with an ending
and closes out the case so the case does not become "stale " or does not leave a cloud on
title of land.
The other major section in the housekeeping amendment is historic preservation. Under
that section, City Council directed staff during the April 4 study session to resolve the
ambiguities between the terms "application" and "nomination ." A single term "application "
is being used , and Council also directed staff to adjust the section so it is more consistent
with the other procedural processes in the Code. There are no real substantive
amendments to the section .
Ms. Langon continued; there are a total of 16 amendments listed in the staff report. Staff
requests the Commission recommend to City Council to approve the proposed
housekeeping amendments to Title 16 Unified Development Code. Ms. Langon welcomed
questions from the Commission.
Ms. Mosteller clarified that with the amendments to the Historic Preservation Ordinance,
the public cannot nominate a property for historic designation. Ms. Langon stated that was
correct. Ms. Mosteller continued; the only way a site can be designated is through an
application process by the property owner. Ms. Langon stated that was also correct. Ms.
Mosteller asked if that was consistent with historic/preservation ordinances in other
communities. Ms. Langon responded that from the information she reviewed earlier other
ordinances ranged from only the property owner to people other than property owners
being able to nominate sites. From discussions at Council, she believes it is their feeling
that it is a property rights issue and it should be the property owner who ultimately makes
that determination. If the property owner did not support the application then it should not
move forward. Ms. Mosteller asked if the owner of the Englewood Post Office did not
want to designate that building, there would be nothing the general public could do to save
that building. Ms. Langon stated that with the amendments, that is correct.
Mr. Roth stated the Code does not place any limitations on the property; it is a designation.
A property owner could receive a designation and then still have the building demolished .
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Ms. Langon stated Council also stated that without an inventory of all "historic" buildings in
the City, they were not ready to move forward with any other amendments regarding
limitations on development or demolition of the structures.
Mr. Welker stated the section starts out "historic preservation", but it really is only a
"designation." There is no "teeth" for preservation unless the property owner so decides.
Chair Krieger stated the proposed amendment changes it from "preservation" to
"designation." Ms. Langon stated that is correct; it is a process of designating the property.
Mr. Welker stated that is how he would like the section to be written, more as designation
and less as preservation . Mr. Roth agreed; in 16-2-20 :A.1 it starts by stating : "Preserv e and
protect buildings ... "which it doesn 't do. The title and purpose of the section is correct,
but the first paragraph then states the City is going to preserve and protect buildings, which
it isn't doing. The Commission suggested changing the wording to "designate." Mr. Schum
confirmed that a future property owner could still demolish a property that was alread y
designated historic. Mr. Welker and Mr. Roth stated that was correct. Mr. Schum agreed
that the City wasn 't "preserving and protecting." There are no rules pl aced on sit es to
protect them from future demolition once they have been designated. The criteria needs to
be outlined before the Commission can proceed with an actual historic preser va tion
ordinance. Chair Krieger agreed.
Mr. Welker stated the actual designation of a building should include photographin g it,
documenting it, and permitting a sign which would acknowledge that there was a building
on the site at one time if it should be demolished . Mr. Welker stated that is w hat a
"designation " is to him. If it cannot be preserved, than designating it should m ea n
something in the sense of acknowledging the building, the designer, the history, etc. The
language in the ordinance is very vague. He stated he understood the Commission 's
direction is for designation and not preservation, but it should be more clearl y defined .
Chair Krieger agreed.
Mr. Schum asked if a property could be placed on the National Registry or the Colorado
Registry for historic preservation. Chair Krieger responded yes. Mr. Schum stated no one is
estopped from being able to preserve a building by Englewood's Code; the y can apply to
other organizations.
Mr. Welker stated he has a problem with 16-2-20 :A3 which states: "Promot e the public
health, safety, and welfare ... " This is standard language in the Code and doesn't reall y
seem to have anything to do with preserving and protecting a building. He would like to
see some stronger language.
Mr. Welker stated the Commission has not had a chance to discuss the Historic Ordinance
prior to the public hearing. He is hearing a lot unhappiness on the Commission regarding
the wording. Mr. Hunt stated he believed it can be fixed with some minor changes .
Ms. Mosteller clarified that the ordinance is historic designation not historic preservation .
Ms. Mosteller asked if it would be uncommon to have both sections in a Code; she asked if
the Commission could work on a Historic Preservation Ordinance to add more substance
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for preservation. Ms. Langon stated the Commission might be getting sidetracked on the
words "preservation" and "designation." There is not a major difference in the terms in the
sense of what is trying to be achieved in the Code. It is merely a process, no different than
a process for a variance . Mr. Welker stated the designation is all that Council has
supported at this point. Ms. Langon stated that is correct. Mr. Welker stated at this point
preservation is a goal. Chair Krieger stated the Historical Society and others in the city are
working towards that goal.
Mr. Welker suggested adding a registration process for the designation, similar to the State
Historical Society or similar organizations. They take specific steps to register a building; it
doesn 't necessarily protect the building, but it does register the building. Mr. Schum stated
that could always be placed into the Code as a separate section as part of preservation.
Chair Krieger reiterated she believed the City was working towards that goal.
Mr. Welker stated he can support designation and registration at this time, but he agrees
the City is not in agreement on preservation as to who should be allowed to take those
steps . Chair Krieger stated she didn 't believe the City was prepared on the registration
issue either. Discussion ensued .
Mr. Roth stated regarding the criteria, it states that: "only buildings or structures at least 50
years, or districts in which the majority of structures have been in existence for at lea st 50
years may be designated ... " Mr. Roth stated that history starts yesterday not 50 years ago .
Ms. Langon responded that section is consistent with the current state requirement. Mr .
Roth suggested that the 50 year requirement be removed.
Mr. Welker stated he didn 't believe today's buildings would stand the test of time. He
agreed 50 years may be arbitrary. Mr. Roth stated his point is there are a number of
buildings that deserve historic designation that are not close to 50 years old, such as the
Colonial Bank building which is architecturally significant.
Mr. Hunt suggested continuing the discussion once the hearing was closed. Chair Krieger
agreed. Ms. Langon stated in the same section Mr. Roth was referring to, A4 addresses
some of Mr. Roth's issues that buildings already on the National Register of Historic Places
could forego the 50 year requirement. Ms. Mosteller stated that the way the section is
written the buildings still have to meet the 50 year requirement and one of the other four
criteria. Mr. Welker stated that was correct. Ms. Langon re-read the section, apologized,
and stated Ms. Mosteller was correct.
Chair Krieger asked if there were any more questions for staff. Ms. Langon suggested the
Commission make only minor changes to wording, but the contextual issues be held so the
Commission and staff can look at the whole Ordinance in comparison to other
communities .
Douglas Cohn, 3051 South Marion Street, was sworn in. Mr. Cohn stated he was
interested in finding out what would be discussed prior to the meeting. He stated there
was no way of doing that. He asked the recording secretary if the Commission's packet
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could be posted on the City's website so it could be reviewed prior to the meeting. Chair
Krieger stated it is available in the library one week prior to the meeting. Ms. Reid
reminded Mr. Cohn that when a person is testifying for a public hearing, the same as at the
Board of Adjustment, questions cannot be asked of the Commission. The purpose is to
provide testimony on the case. Mr. Cohn stated his only testimony is that it would be
helpful to have the case information available prior to the meeting.
Mr. Hunt moved;
Mr. Diekmeier seconded: TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE #2005-05,
UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE HOUSEKEEPING
AMENDMENTS.
AYES:
NAYS :
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Bleile, Diekmeier, Hunt, Krieger, Mosteller, Roth , Schum, Welker
None
None
None
Motion carried .
Mr. Hunt moved;
Mr. Bleile seconded: TO RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL APPROVE CASE
#2005-05 UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE HOUSEKEEPING
AMENDMENTS WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES:
1. 16-2-20:A.1: Delete "Preserve and protect" and insert
"Designate '.
2. 16-2-20:A.3: Delete "Promote the public health, safety, and
welfare by encouraging" and insert "Encourage ".
Mr. Roth stated he would like to propose a friendly amendment. Section 16-2-20:H
Criteria, Mr. Roth stated he would like subparagraph 1 (a) to be changed to read as follows:
"Such building, structure or district must meet two of the following criteria ":
He would like the remainder of 1 (a) to be a new 1 (a) 5 and to read as follows:
"(5) Only buildings or structures which have been in existence for at least fifty
(50) years, or districts in which the majority of structures have been in existence
for at least fifty (50) years may be designated."
Mr. Hunt asked Ms. Reid for clarification on procedural matters as to voting and discussion
on the motion. He stated he did not agree with Mr. Roth 's amendment. Ms. Reid
responded that Mr. Hunt has the right to not accept the friendly amendment and to call the
vote on the original motion. Mr. Roth can then make a separate motion .
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Mr. Hunt stated he did not accept Mr. Roth's friendly amendment.
Ms. Mosteller stated she does not agree that the only person who should be able to file an
application for designation is the property owner. Mr. Bleile asked if she thought the
property owner should have a say in whether or not their property gets designated,
because the other side of the issue is what the Commission encountered with the hearing
regarding the Bank. As a property owner, Mr. Bleile stated he would rather have the right
as to whether or not his property is historic. Discussion ensued.
Mr. Welker stated one option is for the Commission to remove the Historic Designation
Ordinance from the vote, vote on passing the other amendments, let those amendments
move on to Council, and take the Historic Designation section back into review. He asked
if the Commission wished to pursue that option. Ms. Mosteller stated she liked that idea.
Chair Krieger asked Ms. Reid for her legal advice. Ms. Reid stated that is an option for the
Commission. There is a motion on the floor which the Commission is discussing. If a
Commissioner wishes to make another motion to do as Mr. Welker suggested, that is also
possible.
Mr. Hunt stated while he appreciates everyone's comments, he doesn 't believe they
warrant holding up the Ordinance from moving forward at this time. He urged the
Commission to allow the minor changes to be made and move forward at this time and
address the larger issues of preservation at a future date. He see them as two separate
issues. Chair Krieger agreed .
Mr. Bleile asked what the process would be to look at an actual historic preservation
ordinance with "teeth." Chair Krieger stated it is her opinion that the Historical Society and
other people are actively pursuing this issue. It is a large job; there has to be a review of all
the buildings in the city. They are wo rkin g towards it, and Chair Krieger encouraged
Commissioners interested in historical preservation to become involved in that project to
bring it forward.
Discussion ensued.
Mr. Roth moved;
Ms. Mosteller seconded: That Section 16-2-20:H1 (a) read as follows:
"Such building, structure or district must meet two of the
following criteria:"
In addition a new subparagraph 5 be added to read as follows:
"(5) Only buildings or structures which have been in existence
for at least fifty (50) year s, or districts in which the majority of
structures have been in existence for at least fifty (50) years may
be designated."
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standard. It proves that the buildings stands the test of time. With the current motion, a
structure could have a connection to events, embody distinguishing characteristics, and be
one day hold, and be historically designated. Mr. Roth stated that was correct. Mr. Hunt
stated he disagrees with that intent for historical designation; he believes there is a reason
why there is a standard in the realm of historical preservation .
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Discussion ensued.
Mr. Bleile agreed with Mr. Hunt. The Commission should pass the minor amendments now
and revisit the major changes to the historic designation/preservation section in the future .
There doesn't appear to be any pressing issues to warrant the Commission rewriting the
entire section now.
Chair Krieger called for a vote on Mr. Roth 's motion.
AYES:
NAYS :
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Motion failed .
Mosteller, Roth
Bleile, Diekmeier, Hunt, Krieger, Schum, Welker
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Mr. Diekmeier stated he would like the Commission to study the historic preservation issue
and to review some of the documents from the state or federal level on this issue. Also , the
Commission has been discussing the difference from historical significance, whether it be
architectural or some other type of significance . Chair Krieger called for the vote on the
original motion.
Mr. Diekmeier asked the recording secretary to restate the original motion . Ms. Fenton
stated the original motion is:
AYES:
NAYS:
TO RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL APPROVE CASE
#2005-05 UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE HOUSEKEEPING
AMENDMENTS WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES:
1. 16-2-20:A.1 : Delete "Preserve and protect" and insert
"Designate'.
2. 16-2-20:A.3: Delete "Promote the public health, safety, and
welfare by encouraging" and insert "Encourage " .
Bleile, Diekmeier, Hunt, Krieger, Roth, Schum , Welker
Mosteller
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ABSENT:
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Motion carried.
Ms. Mosteller stated for the record her "nay" vote is because of content contained in the
historic designation amendments .
VI. PUBLIC FORUM
Doug Cohn clarified that it is the Planning and Zoning Commission that is referred to in the
Historic Designation Ordinance as the "Commission ." Chair Krieger responded that was
correct.
VII. DIRECTOR'S CHOICE
Ms. Langon stated there are no cases for May 3 and asked if the Commission w ould lik e to
approve the Findings of Fact and Minutes from the public hearings by telephone poll o r if
would they like to meet on May 3. It was the consensus of the Commission to not meet on
May 3 and approve the Minutes and two sets of Findings of Fact by telephone poll .
VIII. ATTORNEY'S CHOICE
• Ms. Reid stated she had nothing further.
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IX. COMMISSIONER'S CHOICE
Mr. Schum stated he and his family are moving to Littleton the end of April, and he
unfortunately needs to resign from the Commission . He has enjo y ed his tim e on th e
Commission and has learned a lot. The Commission wished Mr. Schum well and thanked
him for his service to the City.
Chair Krieger again stated it is even more critical that Commissioners be in attendance at
meetings now that the Commission is down two members. It is also just as important to let
the recording secretary know whether or not they will be attending the meeting so she will
know if a quorum will be available prior to the meeting.
The study session adjourned at 8:35 p .m .
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MEMORANDUM
To: Secretaries to Boards and Commissions ,, -.
Planning & Zoning Commission -Nancy Fenton ·
From: Jeanne Kelly
Records Management Clerk
Date: December 14 , 2005
Subject: Minutes
I have been informed that the auditors will be here on December
In checking all Board and Commission minutes books, I find that
some minutes are missing. Please send me a copy, if there actually was a
scheduled meeting .
Following are the minutes I do not have :
Mry, June and Aurst
I-Jo /rku:rl-t'u f Ne; M'2a:l-o1
MEMORANDUM
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To: Secretaries to Boards and Comr:nissions ,., . .
Planning &·Zoning Commiss ion -Nancy Fenton ·
From: Jeanne Kelly
Records Management Clerk
Date: December 14 , 2005
Subject: Minutes
I have been informed that the auditors will be here on December
In checking all Board and Commission minutes books , I find that
some minutes are missing. Please send me a copy , if there actually was a
scheduled meeting .
Following are the minutes I do not have: Its fe~ MrPr~ fiv-tr,J
Mry , June and Aurst
/Jo ltko-f-t'u f No Mead-1 1
Work Session on Commission Handbook
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