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CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
March 21, 2000
I. CALL TO ORDER
The regular meeting of the Cit y Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at 7:00
p.m. in the Community Room of Englewood City Hall , Chairman Welker presiding.
Present:
Absent:
N ote:
Staff:
Willis , Lathram, Rininger, Sauter, Stockwell , Weber, Welker
Douglas
One Vacan cy
Mark Graham, Senior Planner
L auri Dannemiller, Planning An alyst
Nanc y Reid, A ss istant City Attorney
Als o present: Sus an Blansett , Blansett & Associ ates
Jesse Sil verstein , Development Research P artners
Other Staff: Arthur Scibelli , Business Development Coordinator
Darren Hollingsworth , Business Development Speciali st
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
M arch 7 , 2000
Chairman Welker stated that the Minutes of M arch 7 , 2000 are to be considered for appro va l.
Ri ninger moved:
Weber sec o nded : The Minutes of March 7 , 2000 be approved as written .
AYES :
NAYS :
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT :
Rininger, Sauter, Stockwell, Weber, Willis, Welker
None
Lath ram
Douglas
The motion carried.
III. FINDINGS OF FACT
Hawthorn Suite s
PUD-98-03
.Mr. Welker st ated that the Findings of Fact for the Hotel PUD , Case #PUD -98 -03 were to be
considered for approval.
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Weber moved:
Rininger seconded: The Findings of Fact for Case #PUD-98-03 be approved as written.
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Rininger, Sauter, Stockwell, Weber, Willis, Welker
None
Lathram
Douglas
The motion carried.
IV. EVALUATIONMATRIX
Economic Development
Fiscal Impact
Mr. Graham introduced Ms. Susan Blansett , Blansett & Associates ; and Mr. Jesse Silverstein ,
Development Research Partners. Ms . Blansett and her firm have been engaged to prepare a five-
year strategic economic development plan and market analysis of the Santa Fe Corridor. Mr.
Silverstein and his firm have been engaged to prepare a fiscal impact model that can be used not
only for evaluating de velopment for the General Iron Works (GIW ) site, but for other scenarios.
Mr. Graham stated that staff has reviewed the City Charter to determine fiscal responsibility of
the Commission in making decisions ; the Commission must keep in mind the overall business
health of the City , and try to maintain a balance of residential versus revenue producing projects.
Mr. Graham asked that Ms. Blansett present her project.
Susan Blansett stated that her contract with the City is to develop a five-year economic develop-
ment plan for the City of Englewood. Ms . Blansett stated that she would present an overview of
the work that has been done . Ms . Blansett demonstrated a "growth cycle" of a community, indi-
cating points where redevelopment or "reinvention " is needed . Ms. Blansett stressed the need to
maintain the vitality of a community , and to take these steps prior to reaching the point of "rein-
vention".
Ms . Blansett distributed a synopsis of her presentation. This synopsis addresses the task, the
methodology , factors that will drive market dynamics in the Santa Fe corridor, real estate outlook
for both industrial and office use , the Santa Fe "action plan'', the challenge of balancing residen-
tial and commercial land uses , and the challenge of resolving conflicting needs and goals.
Ms. Blansett stated that there is a lot working in Englewood's favor: the national, state and local
economy is strong, and the prognosis is for continued good economic development health.
Englewood has a strategic location relative to highways -Santa Fe Drive , South Broadway, U.S.
285 -all heavy traffic carriers. Englewood is also situated in close proximity to major employ-
ment centers -downtown Denver, and the Denver Tech Center. Englewood will have the light
rail station open in July , 2000 -much earlier than other employment centers in the metro area. A
seven-year construction period is projected for the I-25 corridor; this may serve as a "disincen-
tive" for new development along this corridor. Jefferson County has a lack of developable land
for commercial purposes ; Interlocken in the northwest sector of the metro area is developed and
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congested. There is a tight labor market, and residences/access for employees to their work
place is at a premium. There is a growing trend among some classes of employees -young, sin-
gle or couples , no children, or the empty nester -to chose the urban lifestyle -lofts, condos,
town homes , etc. Ms. Blansett suggested that Englewood could provide affordable housing that
will be attractive to prospective residents and/or employees of the area.
Ms. Blansett noted that a majority of new industrial development is occurring in the Denver In-
ternational Airport (DIA) area, or by Centennial Airport. The southwest sub-market area (south
of Alameda, west of Broadway) has a vacancy rate of 4.2% in the industrial properties; the va-
cancy rate metro-wide is 5 .5%. Leasing rates in Englewood are very reasonable , and business-
men who have located here are not interested in relocating -only those who need to expand their
business and cannot do so relocate. Industrial properties in Englewood are aging -some of the
buildings are outdated, small, and generally unattractive to prospective tenants. Or a tenant may
not be "choice", but in light of the low leasing rates , they don't relocate . Ms . Blansett stated that
businessmen must have flexibility in use of their "space"; "flexible space " is very attractive in
today 's market and , though the uses may be industrial in nature , the new buildings can be de-
signed very attractivel y . Ms. Blansett stated that new buildings have good security systems built
in , telecommunications systems are built in, advanced lighting needs are built in -in short, new
construction provides a lot of "bells and whistles " that today 's businessman wants. Aging indus-
trial construction does not provide that , and this is an issue Englewood needs to address.
Mr. Welker asked if there is in ventory of industrial buildings and spaces that are available in the
City. Ms . Blansett stated that she does not know of such an inventory. Mr. Graham suggested
that we could get the Assessor's data to get the big picture , but this would not re veal how each
site is being used. Mr. Graham noted the difficulty of keeping such an inventory up-to-date.
Mr. Scibelli s tated th at the Business Development office has tried to maintain a current inventory
of available properties; he estimated that there may be four or five "small" properties at any
given time , but facilities of 30,000 sq. ft. to 40 ,000 sq. ft. are very rarely available in Englewood.
Mr. Welker commented on the Santa Fe corridor review and the need to understand more about
the businesses along this corridor; he is interested in determining what ma y be redeveloped , de-
termining key "nodes " for development or rede velopment, and the option of moving more busi-
nesses into the area. Mr. Graham stated that staff could work with Ms. Blansett to develop the
strategies and get the information to the Commission.
Mr. Welker suggested that the transit area also be viewed for the impact on economic trends.
Mr. Silverstein stated that we are considering two separate issues -occupancy of a structure/site
versus physical inventory to determine what development is on the site. Mr. Welker stated that
he would like something before the Commission so they can see what is or isn't at a particular
location.
Mr. Scibelli referenced the former "Ragsdale site" on South Santa Fe Drive ; he suggested that if
more tools had been in place , the City could have taken steps to acquire the property to be rede-
veloped, or used for open space .
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Ms. Blansett discussed the "office" outlook; again, the southwest sub-market vacancy rate is
considerably lower than the metro-wide rate: the southwest sub-market vacancy rate is 6.97%;
metro wide the vacancy rate is 9.3 %. Rental rates are, again, lower in the southwest market area.
The low vacancy, low rental rates indicates outdated, unattractive office space -long-term ten-
ants who prefer cheap rents for lower aes thetic and maintenance costs. Flexible lease terms, im-
proved building features, and access to transit lines are strong selling points for Englewood.
Ms. Blansett discussed the Santa Fe Corridor Action Plan, citing the following four objectives:
1) Promote the optimum mix of business, residential, institutional , cultural and recreational
uses;
2) Redevelop underutilized/deteriorating properties , with emphasis on major intersections;
3) Capitalize on mass transit and commuter traffic through Englewood;
4) Capture recreational/aesthetic potential of the S . Platte River.
Ms. Blansett cited five action steps for Commission consideration :
1) Create quality/aesthetic corridor standards and ensure local policies , incentives, zoning
and regulations support the City 's goals for the corridor (e.g. mixed-use , transit-oriented
development)
2) Establish a land bank 50 l-c-3 to facilitate corridor transformation, preservation of the
employment base;
3) Analyze market to identify the optimum retail mix and work to obtain necessary in-
gress/egress from Santa Fe ;
4) Host an event to draw attention to Englewood's plans for the corridor, and to solicit ad-
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5) Establish a Santa Fe Corridor cooperative arrangement with other corridor communities.
Ms . Blansett suggested that the Commission re-evaluate the policies for zoning, and make sure
the zoning regulations are in sync with the overall vision for the corridor, and encourage high-
quality construction on development and redevelopment projects.
Ms. Blansett discussed investigation of creation of a 501-c-3 for land banking. This process will
allow a community to acquire land that may be desirable for another use as it comes on the mar-
ket; the community may also swap land owned in other sectors for land in the corridor. Mr. Sau-
ter asked if the City could run a 501-c-3. Ms. Blansett stated that the 501-c-3 would have to be
managed in conformance with the tax laws . She stated that this is a non-profit corporation that
may accept donations of land or money.
Ms . Blansett suggested the need to engage a "retail expert" to conduct the market analysis and
determine optimum retail mix . The City must work to obtain and develop necessary in-
gress/egress from Santa Fe. Ms. Blansett urged establishing a cooperative arrangement among
the communities of Littleton, Sheridan , Englewood, and possibly Denver, to address improve-
ments, development and redevelopment along the Santa Fe/South Platte River corridor. Engle-
wood needs to work with Littleton and Sheridan to development an image of the corridor.
Mr. Stockwell asked if the intra-city cooperative in conjunction with the 501-c-3 corporation
would be possible . Brief discussion ensued.
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Ms. Blansett suggested hosting events to direct attention to the Santa Fe corridor. If this is un-
dertaken properly, "experts" in the field of retail development, office development and industrial
development could be in attendance , and could "critique" whatever plans the City may have for
the corridor; these "experts" could also be asked for advice or suggestions on what might work in
the corridor. This would be a good public relations opportunity, not only for the corridor but the
City as a whole.
Mr. Welker asked if the RailVolution conference could be an opportunity to promote the corri-
dor. Mr. Graham stated that the City will be very involved in this Conference , and staff mem-
bers are designing "walking tours'', some of which will be in the Englewood area.
Ms. Blansett suggested that events be kept fairly "intimate" -not large, public meetings; the City
should be very candid with the attendees on the goals and proposals for the corridor.
Ms . Blansett then addressed the challenges for balancing residential and commercial land uses;
the City needs to ensure sufficient land for employment centers, and to keep pace with changing
needs in the marketplace for both industrial, office space , and retail space. The City also needs
to promote development of housing stock that will appeal to the entrepreneurial segment of the
population: this will serve as an attractor to retail and to employers. There must also be a fertile
environment for small/entrepreneurial b us iness growth.
Mr. Sauter asked for further explanation of housing development Ms. Blan sett had referenced
earlier. Ms. Blansett suggested construction of condos, patio homes , lofts above retail , co-
housing developments . Many of the young people , and empty-nesters, would be interested in
this type of housing. Mr. Sauter asked what the present ratio of residential to industrial devel-
opment in the City is. Mr. Graham stated that the City is zoned for 60 % residential , 30% indus-
trial and commercial development. Ms. Blansett commented that Englewood is in the favorable
position of "importing" employees -there are approximately 1.6 jobs for every employable resi-
dent in the City.
Mr. Sauter asked where open space issues fit into this scenario. Ms. Blansett stated that open
space is very important -it improves the quality of life for not only residents , but also employers
and employees. Mr. Silverstein also noted the importance of open space is stressed at Smart
Growth conferences he has attended.
Discussion ensued. Ms. Blansett suggested the City might consider some incentives to encour-
age new development or redevelopment.
Mr. Welker stated that the redevelopment of the Santa Fe/Platte River corridor will have a
greater impact on the community as a whole than will redevelopment of CityCenter. Discussion
ensued. Determination of development the City wants versus what is not wanted was discussed.
Ms . Blansett emphasized that the tum-around of this corridor will not be a short-term project -
this will be at least a 20-year project to regenerate the corridor. She emphasized the need to set
standards; determine what is acceptable and what is not acceptable -the standards will help de-
termine what the City wants and what it doesn't want to see in this corridor.
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Mr. Sauter asked if there are other "models" the Commission can review. Mr. Graham stated
that staff does have plans from Littleton and from Denver which can be made available to the •
Commission. Mr. Graham pointed out that the Metro Vision 2020 and the evaluation matrix have
both addressed the need for redevelopment along the Santa Fe/Platte River corridor. He stated
that staff has a number of issues that will be brought forward to the Commission. Mr. Graham
stated that it is important for members of the Commission to get the "big picture" information
such as the economic development/fiscal impact information.
Mr. Welker discussed the revision of the Comprehensive Plan, and the need to use the Compre-
hensive Plan as a tool to address redevelopment along the Santa Fe/Platte River corridor. Mr.
Graham stated that staff has been working toward development of an overlay zone district for the
Corridor area; the standards and regulations of this District will be before the Commission in the
near future; however, application of this zone district to the land and map is not scheduled at this
time.
Mr. Welker stated that he thought the Comprehensive Plan revisions would be to the Commis-
sion by this time. Mr. Graham stated that work is progressing on several sections of the Plan -
the Regional Plan, open space, housing , economic development to cite four. The transportation
section will not be revised this year. Work is also progressing on the Comprehensive Zoning
Ordinance revisions; the format will be changed initiall y, and then standards and regulations will
addressed.
Mr. Sil verstein addressed the Commission , and pro vided a brief synopsis of his background. He
is an economist by profession; has been in the commercial real estate arena for the last 10 years , •
and is drawn to challenging development and redevelopment situations. Mr. Silverstein stated
that he has been asked by the City to develop a tool to enable fiscal evaluation of new develop-
ment and redevelopment.
Mr. Silverstein stated that growth is occurring , and everything is in a s tate of change . It is very
important to determine where land use of area is headed ; how do we make areas we want
changed attractive to developers , and how do we ensure that the development/redevelopment is
wh at is wanted in any given location. Englewood is "land-locked" -further growth and devel-
opment must come about via redevelopment of existing sites , be it residential, commercial, of-
fice , or industrial. Low vacancy , low rental rates are indicative of decaying properties. Mr.
Silverstein stressed the necessity to maintain a viable commercial/industrial tax base; property
taxes from residential uses do not pay for the cost per capita of public services rendered . Com-
mercial and industrial properties are taxed at a different rate , and property tax revenues are con-
siderably higher than those from residential use. Mr. Silverstein stated that studies have shown
an average cost for public services of $660 per year per residence, contrasted to $200+ per year
per employee. "Public services" include police, fire, snow plowing, street maintenance, etc.
Mr. Silverstein suggested that typically when we talk about redevelopment, large market evalua-
tions are done; he stressed the need to identify specific sites -not large areas. He commented
that at Oxford and Santa Fe, for instance, there are lots of small sites that might be assembled
and could be very attractive to a larger industrial business. Mr. Silverstein emphasized the need
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to work with land inventories, consider the market, consider how the site could be developed,
and consider ways tax revenues can be maximized.
Mr. Silverstein stated that land should be looked at two different ways :
1) The building -occupied by a business; or occupied by an investor who is allowing the
income to determine the best use of the property.
2) What is the highest and best use of the building/property for the City. Determine what is
the highest and best use versus what can be attracted to a specific site.
Mr. Silverstein offered the following "definitions":
Economic Impact: how many times money turns over within the City from a particular use -i.e.,
a paycheck is distributed, cashed, purchases made, bills paid , etc.
Fiscal Impact: how much is taken in versus how much is expended for the business or develop-
ment.
Mr. Silverstein stated that an economic benefit realized from a particular development is a very
important measure for a community . Mr. Silverstein stated part of his project for the City is to
take the economic and demographic information on Englewood, and develop a spreadsheet,
which can then be manipulated to indicate economic and fiscal impact results in several scenar-
ios.
Mr. Sil verstein discussed the need to look at projected revenues in relation to costs incurred from
any proposed development ; is the proposal a revenue generator -sales tax collected by other
businesses from employees , or revenues directly from the business. The City needs to consider
what portion of revenues will be coming back to offset an y investment (incentiv es ) that may
have been advanced to the development project. He commented that most communities realize a
5 % return. Mr. Silverstein noted that per capita revenue s generated from sales ta x in Den ver are
$6,400 ; per capita re venues from sales tax in Englewood are $8 ,800. This indicates a high
amount o f money in Englewood that is spent on retail sales .
Mr. Silverstein stated that economic analysis is based on best-guess information. Fiscal analysis
is a tool to be used in e v aluating a de velopment. Nlr . Silverstein pointed out , for instance , that
open space and parkland-if this is what is envisioned along the South Platte River-will not
generate tax revenues. There maybe revenues from fees charged for park usage. The possible
revenues , in this case , must be weighed against the importance of open space to the community .
Mr. Sauter asked when Mr. Silverstein builds the fiscal "model " or the economics "model", will
these be built conservatively? Mr. Silverstein stated that he tried to take an "average" approach
-more "middle-of-the road", and tried to be objective. Mr. Graham stated that a lot of the in-
formation use in building the models is based on numbers of emplo yees , cost per square foot of
construction (from Building Magazine information ); good sources were used to support specific
types of information needed to build the models.
Mr. Silverstein noted that incentives the City might offer to entice new development include tax
rebates, permit fee waivers , infrastructure, etc .
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Mr. Sauter asked how we could determine how much revenue we receive from people who don't
live in Englewood, or how much is lost by purchases outside of Englewood. Mr. Graham noted •
that the City has a use tax that is collected on products, such as construction materials, purchased
outside the City and used within the City. Discussion ensued . .tvlr. Silverstein discussed "trade
areas" which may have a three mile radius, a five mile radius -or greater.
Mr. Silverstein stated that on-site fiscal impacts are broken into three categories:
1) Property Tax Revenues
2) Sales Tax Revenues from business operations
3) Sales Tax Revenues from residential units
Mr. Stockwell asked for an explanation of "on-site " versus "off-site". Mr. Silverstein stated that
terminology references a specific site. Mr. Stockwell asked if Mr. Silverstein considered the
GIW site, for instance, as one site , or as two because of the proposed split development. Discus-
sion ensued.
Mr. Welker asked if Mr. Silverstein is building the model so that changes can be made -can
Wal-Mart projections be put in, or can other modifications be plugged into the model to reach
different conclusions depending on the scenario . Mr. Silverstein stated that projections from
Wal-Mart have not been plugged in; however, the model is designed to provide the flexibility to
input new assumptions and projections. Mr. Welker asked if Mr. Silverstein is taking into ac-
count the types and numbers of residential units that are proposed in the CityCenter develop-
ment, as well as various commercial enterprises that may be developed. Mr. Silverstein stated
that the model can address these concerns, and reiterated the flexibility that has been designed
into the model. Discussion ensued.
The population of Englewood, and the population that the CityCenter residential development
can generate were discussed . Mr. Graham stated that the average household in Englewood is
comprised of 2.1 people per unit. Mr. Silverstein stated that on high-density development, he
assumes a per household population of 1.5/unit. There are fewer children in high-density devel-
opments. High-density de velopments generate higher propert y taxes than single-family residen-
tial developments , and there will be more households located on one site, all with tenants that
will generate more revenue by shopping at local outlets . Mr. Silverstein noted that one needs to
take into account the types of people who want to live near a transit site ; he suggested that resi-
dential development can pay for itself in this particular type of transit-oriented development.
Mr. Rininger asked if Mr. Silverstein made any differentiation between homeowners and renters
in determining fiscal impact and economic impact. Mr. Silverstein stated that the iss ue of home-
owner versus renter was ignored; he did use similar ass umptions on household income. Mr.
Stockwell asked if there is a list of taxes paid based on the number of units on a site . Mr.
Silverstein stated that he has not prepared such a list, and pointed out that property tax revenues
comprise a very small part of the City 's overall revenues.
Mr. Welker stated that property tax revenue is not the issue; the sales tax revenues will be greater
if there are people living on the site who work and shop in Englewood. Per capita costs for fami-
lies with children versus single , young couples, or empty nesters were discussed. Mr. Sil verstein
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pointed out that the Englewood School District reaps approximately 60% of the property tax
revenues paid by Englewood residents; the City of Englewood receives very little revenue from
property taxes.
Mr. Welker suggested that when considering "disposable income", there might be quite a bit of
this that the C ity isn't capturing.
Further discussion ensued on the fiscal and economic impact models. Mr. Graham suggested
that if it is determined to be a useful tool, it should be kept up-to-date. Mr. Si lverstein noted that
the most recent data is six months old, and a lot of the data is older than this.
Mr. Welker stated that if we are serious about "planning", we need to have something to base the
plans on. We do need to have some ability to forecast a possible future scenario -change in tax
base, tax generator, whatever. This will be the only way to evaluate how the plan being pro-
posed is affecting the City.
The GIW site was briefly discussed. Ms. Blansett suggested that in evaluating any project, the
evaluations should be on fiscal impact, economic impact, and qualitative impact. How will a
project affect the quality of life for the neighborhood , the community, etc.
Mr. Welker again asked if the fiscal/economic model will be flexible, and will this tool be avail-
able to City Staff. Mr. Graham stated the model is flexible, and can be adjusted to reflect various
scenarios. Mr. Silverstein stated that this economic/fiscal model has been developed through
cooperative work by Mr. Graham, Darren Hollingsworth, and himself .
Mr. Welker commented that it is necessary to have the economic/fiscal models available, noting
that in the past when developers approached the City requesting catalyst funds or incentives, we
were not able to understand the impact of that request.
Mr. Silverstein further reviewed the handouts on the economic/fiscal impact model. Ms. Blan-
sett noted that the City can impact the quality of housing that is developed by the standards that
are developed; these standards , and the adherence to them, can drive the development or rede-
velopment of residential, commercial, and industrial.
Mr. Willis asked about the existing development, residential and industrial; will this result in an
"oasis" appearing development. Mr. Graham discussed Mr. Willis' concerns, and noted that part
of the answer is for new development to have sufficient critical mass so it will not take on the
character of an existing or adjoining neighborhood. Mr. Silverstein noted that on the GIW site,
for instance, development could be designed to take into account "view corridors" -both for
those who might reside/office in the new development, and for the existing development abut-
ting.
Discussion ensued regarding requiring new developments to provide for telecommunication
"built-ins". Mr. Graham noted that fiber optics were p laced in S anta Fe during the improve-
ments along that corridor; he does not know whether the CityCenter developers have made ar-
rangements to access this amenity or not. It may be a franchise issue, also. Mr. Graham sug-
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gested that standards be written into the Comprehensive Plan or Zoning Ordinance requiring that
all new developments include telecommunication amenities. Mr. Rininger suggested that the •
market would drive inclusion of these amenities in new developments; if prospective clients or
tenants want these amenities, the developer will provide them.
Mr. Welker suggested the need to begin looking at development of these standards, and to get the
fiber optic facilities in the central corridor.
Mr. Willis asked what kind of retail space is proposed on the GIW site. Mr. Graham stated it
would be supportive -convenience shops such as a barber, shoe repair, etc. The amount would
be based on a ratio of the entire development. Mr. Graham stated that we don't want to bring
additional traffic into the neighborhood, and the retail would be designed to serve only those who
Ii ve in the immediate neighborhood. Discussion ensued regarding the mixed use and industrial
on the GIW site.
Mr. Graham stated this completed the presentation by Ms. Blansett and Mr. Silverstein. He
stated that he appreciated the efforts and time they have devoted to these assignments, and ap-
preciated their attendance at the Commission meeting. Members of the Commission also ex-
pressed their appreciation to Ms. Blansett and Mr. Silverstein.
V. PUBLIC FORU1VI
No one was present to address the Commission.
VI. DIRECTOR'S CHOICE
Mr. Graham distributed a memorandum regarding meeting scheduling problems during the
course of the administrative office relocation in June. He asked that members read this memo-
randum prior to discussion. After members read the memorandum, and a brief discussion, it was
the consensus of the Commission that, if at all possible , the regularly scheduled meetin~s of June
6th and June 20th would be cancelled ; a special meeting would be scheduled on June 27t . It was
also pointed out that the regular meeting of July 5th is on a Wednesday evening, and recent his-
tory has indicated extreme difficulty in getting a quorum of the Commission for a meeting on
Wednesday evenings. Staff was also suggesting that the meeting on July 5th be cancelled. This
scenario will still provide for one meeting in June, and one meeting in July.
Mr. Graham referenced the tentative schedule for meetings, printed on the reverse of the agenda;
he noted that Public Hearings to amend the Englewood Municipal Code, Title 16, Comprehen-
sive Zoning Ordinance , have been scheduled for April 18th. One public hearing pertains to
elimination of the prohibition of sidewalk sales; the second hearing pertains to regula-
tion/location of tattoo establishments. A Public Hearing is scheduled for April 4th on designation
of the Skerritt House as a Historic Site.
Mr. Graham stated that he would be attending an Arapahoe County meeting on open space the
evening of March 22.
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Mr. Graham stated that a tour of the new Ci vie Center building for board and commission mem-
bers is being considered; it is not scheduled at this time, but members will be notified of the date
and time.
VII. ATTORNEY'S CHOICE
Ms. Reid had excused herself from the meeting earlier in the evening; no one was present from
the Attorney's Office.
VIII. COMMISSIONER'S CHOICE
Mr. Stockwell stated that his schedule will not allow his attendance at the Real Estate Confer-
ence in May. Discussion ensued. Mr. Rininger stated that he would be interested in attending if
Mr. Willis, for whom a registration has been submitted, cannot attend.
The meeting was declared adjourned.
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Gertrude G. Welty , Recording Secre
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