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THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
January 6, 1998
I. CALL TO ORDER.
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at 7 :00
P.M. in the City Council Chambers of the Englewood City Hall, Chairman Douglas presiding.
Members present: Tobin, Weber, Welker, Cottle, Dummer, Homer, Douglas
Simpson, Ex-officio
Members absent: None
(Secretary's note: two vacancies)
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
December 2 , 1997
December 16, 1997
Chair Douglas stated that the Minutes of December 2, 1997 were to be considered for
approval.
Tobin moved :
Homer seconded: The Minutes of December 2, 1997 be approved as written .
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Tobin, Weber, Welker, Cottle, Dummer, Horner, Douglas
None
None
None
The motion carried.
Chair Douglas stated that the Minutes of December 16, 1997, were to be considered for
approval.
Tobin moved:
Horner seconded: The Minutes of December 16, 1997 be approved as written.
AYES:
NAYS :
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT :
Weber, Welker, Cottle, Horner, Tobin, Douglas
None
Dummer
None
The motion carried .
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III. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT
North Englewood Small Area Plan
CASE #CP-98-01
Mr. Douglas stated that the issue before the Commission is a proposed Small Area Plan for
North Englewood, and asked for a motion to open the Public Hearing.
Welker moved:
Horner seconded: The Public Hearing on Case #CP-98-01 be opened.
AYES:
NAYS:
Welker, Cottle, Dummer, Horner , Tobin, Weber, Douglas
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
The motion carried.
Mr. Douglas set forth parameters for conduct of the Public Hearing, asking that citizens
wishing to address the Commission limit their testimony to no more than five minutes , and that
repetitive testimony be avoided. Mr. Douglas also asked that the audience be courteous to
whomever has the floor . Mr . Douglas asked that staff present the case .
Mark Graham, Neighborhood Coordinator with the Department of Neighborhood & Business
Development, was sworn in. Mr. Graham stated that he will be presenting the North
Englewood Small Area Plan to the Commission. Mr. David Cohen, with whom the City has
signed a public/private partnership agreement, will also be speaking. Mr. Graham stated that
he anticipated that the Public Hearing on this Plan will need to be continued to January 2om, on
which date Civitas, City consultants, will make a presentation to the Commission.
Mr. Graham emphasized that the staff is not seeking a vote from the Commission on the
proposal this evening.
Mr. Graham testified that the North Englewood Small Area Plan (NESAP) is a "focus plan"
on one of six neighborhoods identified in the 1979 Comprehensive Plan. Just as the South
Broadway Action Plan (SBAP), adopted in 1997, addressed the needs and concerns on South
Broadway, the NESAP addresses this particular North Englewood neighborhood, and offers
opportunities for development, redevelopment , and revitalization of this area. Mr. Graham
testified that the 1979 Comprehensive Plan addressed the need to revitalize housing in this
neighborhood, and promote owner-occupancy . Another issue which impacts this particular
neighborhood is the General Iron Works site, and the possible uses which could be imposed
under the existing heavy industrial zoning. Mr. Graham stated that a moratorium on
development of industrially zoned land has been extended by City Council to July 13, 1998 .
This moratorium will provide an opportunity to develop the Plan and implement whatever
zoning changes are needed . Mr. Graham stated that staff is working to develop zoning that
will allow uses with a lower adverse impact on the residential community consistent with the
Plan.
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Mr. Graham provided a brief background on comprehensive plans , stating that a •
comprehensive plan is a policy document to guide the Planning Commission and City Council
on issues of development, investments such as improved infrastructure , budgeting plans, etc.
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The Comprehensive Plan is a long-term document, whereas a "small area plan" is a
shorter-term document, which also contains policies, and is a step in implementing the overall
Comprehensive Plan .
Mr. Graham addressed efforts at public outreach, noting that NBD staff scheduled four
neighborhood meetings -two at Mayflower Congregational Church, and two at Bishop
Elementary School. These meetings occurred in August, September, and October. Postcards
were mailed setting forth the date, time, and location of these meetings as well as a statement
on the intent of the meetings. Staff also designed a door-hanger which was distributed by a
Boy Scout Troop prior to the last meeting in October in an effort to generate further
neighborhood interest. Staff also scheduled an "open house", which was held on December
16, 1997. Mr. Graham noted that attendance at the meetings has increased since they were
begun in August, and noted the good attendance at this Public Hearing. He stated that staff did
work with a core group of residents in the North Englewood neighborhood in development of
the Plan, but because of the new attendees, much of the previous discussions and efforts must
be reviewed and recited for the benefit of the new members of the audience.
Mr. Graham testified that proposals made in the early discussions have been modified because
further discussion revealed adverse impacts, unworkability, or some other reason necessitating
the modification or change. Mr. Graham stated that a goal is to design a Plan that is workable,
and does not "sit on a shelf"; it must be capable of being implemented. One proposal cited by
Mr. Graham was a "parkway" proposed along the South Fox Street alignment; this has been
scaled down because of adverse impacts on abutting properties. Mr. Graham stated that a real
opportunity that has been discussed is to consider ways to capitalize on light rail transit. There
is an opportunity to attract development that will provide a high employment base and/or a
diverse residential base. Such uses will support a light-rail station if RTD commits for a
station in this neighborhood . Mr. Graham noted that the Plan has been designed based on the
premise that a light-rail station will be approved for the neighborhood; if this does not happen,
the Plan will have to be redesigned. Mr. Graham pointed out that the Plan affects this
immediate North Englewood area, but also impacts the City as a whole. Mr. Graham stated
that the roadway which will be designed to handle the traffic funneling from Denver through
the neighborhood to West Dartmouth Avenue will have an impact on the adjoining properties;
however, the heavy truck traffic will be directed to one street -South Fox Street, rather than
using an assortment of residential streets between Yale and Dartmouth A venues.
Mr. Graham stated that staff is working on several large projects, two of which are the
redevelopment of the Cinderella City Mall, and the General Iron Works redevelopment area.
A public/private partnership between the City of Englewood and Cohen Brothers Development
was created; this will provide marketing information and marketing assistance as well as
development assistance. The City will provide assistance with environmental assessments and
will work with developers to assemble land and develop supporting infrastructure.
Mr. Graham noted that land use concepts must be flexible to allow the market to suggest uses,
and to assure compatibility with surrounding uses. Mr. Graham asked that, during the course
of the Hearing, discussions be directed to the "policies" in the Plan, and not to specific issues.
• Mr. Graham testified that the General Iron site is ripe for redevelopment; however, the market
may bring in uses that are not compatible to residential development in the area, such as a car
crusher, hazardous chemical storage, an RTD maintenance garage, etc. Some of the uses
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which have been discussed with staff are 24-hour per day uses , generate a high level of noise ,
soil contamination, and present potential hazards or negative impacts to this neighborhood and
to the community as a whole. If the City and neighborhood do nothing to address the potential
redevelopment of the GIW site , there is a real possibility of an undesirable heavy industrial use
development on the currently vacant site.
Mr. Graham reiterated that the emphasis of the Plan is on redevelopment and revitalization of
this neighborhood; this does not mean a wholesale clearance of existing development; it does,
however , mean addressing issues of improved access ramps at intersections , encouraging
development of separated curb and sidewalks with the planting of street trees in the parking
strip , and other ways to improve general appearance of the neighborhood. Mr. Graham
acknowledged that the neighborhood from South Fox Street west to Santa Fe Drive is
considered a primary "redevelopment " area , and that the majority of "revitalization" efforts
will be directed to the neighborhood east of South Fox Street. Mr . Graham stated that the
1990 Census reflected a 70% rental rate for the residential neighborhood . Efforts will be
directed to encourage a higher percentage of owner-occupancy of new and rehabbed homes .
The goals of the Plan are to eliminate the threats and impacts to the neighborhood from heavy
industrial uses; to balance the rede velopment and revitalization efforts , to create a "front door "
along West Dartmouth Avenue , address improved landscaping , improved lighting , etc.
Another goal is to pursue study of a light-rail stop in this location and to increase tax revenues
from real estate in this neighborhood . Mr. Graham reiterated that the NESAP is a supplement
to the South Broadway Action Plan (SBAP); it is difficult to revitalize South Broadway without
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addressing the needs and providing improvements to the abutting neighborhoods . This •
includes improving housing , providing a market for more residents in the neighborhood . Staff
believes that the policies and recommendations in the Plan will help to realize the goals for the
neighborhood . Improvement of transportation through the area includes development of
pedestrian and bicycle trails and linkage to existing trail systems . It is not the intent to
encourage "drive-through " or "cut-through " traffic from Denver through to the redeveloped
mall ; rather , the traffic from Yale is to be funneled on South Fox Street to West Dartmouth
A venue and will disperse from there . Mr . Graham stated that there has been a lot of
discussion regarding the type of traffic -is it heavy truck traffic from industrial areas and/or
from Denver; neighborhood traffic. The Plan is designed to explore ways to get the traffic out
of the neighborhood without going "through " the neighborhood.
Mr. Graham briefly addressed implementation of the NESAP , noting that the Plan will require
approval by the City Council as will any changes in zoning designation. Other steps to
facilitate implementation could include inclusion of projects in the City budget process,
application for grants , and working with the private sector to promote redevelopment in the
area . Mr . Graham noted that redevelopment and revitalization is not something that will occur
immediately; even if a project is included in the City budget process , it could be several years
before it becomes reality .
Mr. Graham stated that staff is interested in receiving comments from residents and property
owners , citing what is of concern to them about the Plan , but he asked that the Plan not be
rejected out-of-hand. Staff and representatives from Civitas will then address the concerns that •
have been voiced by the residents to try to resolve those concerns . If there is need for
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extensive revision of the Plan, he asked that the citizens and Commission provide the feedback
to enable the staff and consultant the tools with which to proceed .
Mr. Horner asked what is going on north of Yale A venue in Denver . Mr. Graham suggested
that Mr. David Cohen would address this.
Ms. Tobin requested clarification of the "public/private" partnership . Mr. Graham stated that
this is a partnership wherein the government (city) can do and/or provide some facets of a
project, and the private sector does other facets. In this particular instance, the public part of
the partnership can provide the infrastructure improvements, and the private sector has access
to the marketing information and development community .
Ms. Tobin asked if Mr. Cohen was a "paid consultant". Mr. Graham stated that Mr. Cohen is
not a paid consultant on this project.
Ms. Tobin asked who would pay for the transit station; does RTD not pay property tax.
Mr. Graham stated that RTD does not pay property tax. Payment for development of the
transit station development has not been determined; funding could come partially from the
community, or from other funding sources.
Ms . Tobin asked if redevelopment and infrastructure improvements would be done
concurrently with improvements to the water system . Mr. Graham stated that he did not
know .
Mr. Douglas noted that reference had been made to the GIW site and use of that site by RTD;
he asked for clarification . Mr. Graham stated that RTD had proposed development of a
maintenance facility on the GIW site; staff met with RTD representatives and asked that the
proposal not be pursued at this time. The maintenance facility would have been a 24-hour
facility, and would have had an adverse impact on the neighborhood. They do not employ a
great number of people, but the use does require a lot of land to store the cars that are in for
repair. The facility would not provide a tax revenue source to the City. If the residents of the
neighborhood determine that an RTD maintenance area would be acceptable, RTD would
reconsider the site.
Ms . Cottle asked, if the transit stop does not come to fruition, and the Commission has to go
back to amend the Plan in the next six months or so -what guidance can staff give the
Commission on this possibility. Mr. Graham acknowledged that this is truly a chicken/egg
type of project -the transit station will attract a certain type of development, and a certain type
of development is required to support the transit station -but which should and will come first .
He pointed out that this Plan is designed for a three to five year implementation, and that it
will be entirely appropriate to readdress the Plan in that period of time if it appears certain
facets are not going to occur, and to provide redirection to keep the
redevelopment/revitalization moving. Mr . Graham suggested that if the transit station does not
happen, it is possible an alternative such as maintaining open space and that east/west streets
will end with a "mountain view" could be considered. This would probably also result in a
much less dense development. Without a "critical mass" of people, the Broadway benefits are
diminished; and fewer jobs would be created. There are amenities that can occur if the transit
station is part of the development, but which cannot happen if there is no transit station.
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Mr. Welker inquired about the traffic coming from the north, across Dartmouth to Floyd
A venue; will this direct route be continued south of Cinderella City , and what about the traffic •
traveling north -Fox Street disappears in Denver. Will reconstruction of Yale A venue be part
of the Plan to be addressed. He asked about the impact additional traffic will have on
Dartmouth Avenue. Mr . Graham stated that Dartmouth Avenue changes character when it
intersects with Broadway; he suggested that Dartmouth Avenue would be a collector street.
The Plan, as presented today , indicates improvements on Dartmouth A venue to Fox Street and
resignalization every two blocks between Santa Fe Drive and South Broadway. Mr. Graham
stated that Santa Fe will be a major contributor of traffic into the redevelopment area; no plans
are developed for improvement of additional east/west routes, such as Bates Avenue or Floyd
Avenue . In fact, Bates Avenue is proposed as a "pedestrian route " more than a heavy
vehicular route. Mr. Welker asked what happens to the traffic once it gets across Yale A venue
to Denver . Mr. Graham reiterated that South Fox will be the primary route to funnel all truck
traffic to and from Denver to Dartmouth Avenue ; the Plan is designed to alleviate the
residential streets of the heavy truck traffic now experienced. Mr. Graham stated that staff and
Civitas consulted with the City Traffic Engineer regarding development of a through truck
route , and South Fox Street was the route best suited for these purposes -street grades are
better , the stacking distance is sufficient , and there is an elementary school on South Elati
Street which would be heavily impacted by truck traffic .
Mr. Graham reiterated that initial phases of the Plan proposed a 60 ft. parkway on South Fox ;
this proposal was rejected. There will have to be some acquisition of easement rights to
facilitate development of detached sidewalks. Mr. Graham discussed proposed "neck-downs " •
at several locations to control and discourage through traffic on streets.
Mr . Welker asked about the timing on redevelopment of the Mall . Mr. Graham stated that the
NESAP does recommend improvement of South Fox in lieu of a projected through street
proposed in conjunction with redevelopment of the Mall; staff and Civitas felt that
improvement of South Fox Street was preferable to extending a street through Cushing Park to
Dartmouth to provide linkage with the mall area. The street through Cushing Park had been
proposed early on by the City Public Works Director ; this proposal was rejected because it
would be too disruptive. The NESAP proposes that traffic will use South Fox Street
southbound from Yale Avenue through to West Floyd Avenue ; use of South Fox Street as a
through street is not shown on the existing plans for mall area redevelopment.
Mr . Welker asked about more in-depth consideration of the area between West Dartmouth
Avenue and West Floyd Avenue . Mr. Graham stated that current plans for the mall area
redevelopment indicate that the existing residential development would remain. Mr . Graham
commented that use of South Fox Street as the through street creates a "boundary street " to
separate diverse types of development.
Mr. Douglas asked if the proposed South Fox Street improvements could be done within
existing right-of-way . Mr. Graham answered affirmatively , with the exception of the
"diagonal " connections. Mr. Graham noted that the "diagonals " locations are not firm .
Mr. Dummer asked if Denver is willing to cooperate with Englewood. Can Fox "boulevard "
be extended north into Denver -what is in Denver north of Yale A venue . Mr . Graham noted
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that the traffic into and out of Denver exists today -the Plan indicates designation of one street
to carry that traffic rather than allowing it to impact the entire neighborhood by using all
residential streets. Mr. Dummer asked what justification there is to improve and develop
South Fox Street to carry the heavy traffic with no evidence of cooperation from Denver. He
noted that he formerly worked in this industrial area, and noted there are large semi-trucks
coming through this neighborhood; he noted that a lot of them are using South Delaware Street
now. Mr . Graham suggested that people living in the area are aware of the semis using the
residential streets; the proposed Plan will move that truck traffic west to South Fox Street.
Mr. Welker asked if development of South Fox as an improved truck route will increase the
heavy vehicle traffic going through the area into Denver. He noted that the majority of the
heavy vehicle traffic is coming off of South Santa Fe Drive . Mr. Welker also noted that a
light-rail station at West Evans Avenue is proposed. Mr. Graham asked the Commission if
they had a proposed solution or alternative on routing the heavy vehicle traffic through this
neighborhood. Mr. Welker noted that improvements proposed to South Fox Street will serve
the industrial development in Denver very well, but will impact the residential area in
Englewood.
Mr. David Cohen, Cohen Brothers Development, was sworn in. Mr. Cohen testified that he
has been working with City representatives for some time before entering into the
public/private partnership agreement in mid to late 1997. He has been considering
redevelopment proposals that extend north of West Dartmouth Avenue. Mr. Cohen stated that
a primary objective of the small area plan is establishment of policies to govern redevelopment
and rejuvenation efforts for this North Englewood neighborhood. Mr. Cohen acknowledged
that the GIW operation was a prominent facility in Englewood during the time it was active;
however, this site has been basically idle since the mid-1980's, and is now a detriment to the
neighborhood. Mr. Cohen noted that, as he sat through the community meetings, he heard a
lot about need to improve the area, and the negative impact the idle GIW site ha s had on the
neighborhood. The proposed Plan is an effort to move forward proactively, anL -move a
negative impact from the neighborhood. Mr. Cohen addressed the public/private partnership
agreement, noting that to successfully do something in this area will not be easy -there are
very tangible difficulties to any redevelopment; this partnership can provide some assurance of
progress on the redevelopment/rejuvenation efforts. Mr. Cohen noted that the South Santa Fe
corridor has not, until very recently, been a traffic/business corridor to attract investment
moneys for improvement; there are the railroad tracks in close proximity to the area, the sewer
plant, the PSC power plant, and Cinderella City. Mr. Cohen reiterated that he is working with
the City to try to move improvement of this neighborhood forward in a very optimistic way; it
will not be an easy endeavor, and there are a lot of limitations. Mr. Cohen further reiterated
that he has been working with the City for approximately 18 months, and that the
public/private partnership was entered into only three or four months ago. He stated that he
and City officials have worked very compatibly on the proposal, and feels that the efforts have
been very productive. Mr. Cohen addressed the issue of transit-oriented development; the
possibility of a light-rail station can be part of the redevelopment, and the Plan is, today,
focused to transit-oriented development (TOD). Mr. Cohen acknowledged that the light-rail
station might not be a reality, and that this must be contemplated . Mr. Cohen discussed the
issue of through traffic, noting that there is a great deal of truck traffic, which originates in
Denver, that is traveling through the Englewood residential area -therefore, it is Englewood's
problem to address. There needs to be some action taken to lessen the impact of this heavy
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truck traffic, and the improvement of South Fox Street to handle this traffic would clear the
residential streets from Broadway to Fox from use by the large trucks. Mr. Cohen stated that
there are a number of issues that must be taken into consideration -land use in the Denver
area , environmental issues in Denver, and in Englewood -there are a variety of issues that
must still be addressed before the Plan can be implemented.
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Mr . Douglas declared a brief recess of the meeting.
The meeting reconvened at 8:25 P.M ., all members of the Commission in attendance .
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Mr. Douglas referenced sign-in sheets which had circulated through the audience.
Kathy Wilks
3038 South Galapago Street -was sworn in. Ms . Wilks stated that she and her husband live in
a single-family attached home they purchased approximately two years ago . She stated that she
and her husband are Englewood natives, and that she is a veterinarian by profession. This is a
nice "starter home " for them , and noted that with the influx of people from other states to
Colorado , the housing market has become very limited. Ms . Wilks stated that she and her
husband want the "American dream " -to own their own home , begin a family , etc.
Ms. Wilks stated that the indecisiveness of the Plan is of concern to her , and believes it limits
the home owners should they decide to sell the existing house to move to a larger house.
Ms . Wilks stated that she is in favor of seeing the area redeveloped , and believes that
Eng ewood presents a lot of opportunities. Ms. Wilks stated that she does not want to see a
car crusher or some similar use just up the street from her home. Ms . Wilks stated that she is
basically in favor of the Plan, but there are facets which need to be further addressed.
Ms . Wilks stated that they did receive the postcard mailings and the door hangers, and have
been involved in the discussions since the beginning. Ms. Wilks did advise that more of the
community needs to be involved in the proposal , and questioned whether residents were
informed of proposed usages for the former GIW site. Ms . Wilks stated that when she and her
husband purchased their home, the neighborhood was very quiet. Ms. Wilks reiterated that the
Plan, in general, isn 't bad , but that the neighborhood needs to have more involvement.
Steve Van Cleave
2884 South Elati Street -was sworn in. Mr. Van Cleave stated that his concern is economic ;
he asked what feasibility studies ha ve been done , and what formula will be used to determine
compensation to property owners whose properties have to be acquired for the redevelopment.
Mr. Van Cleave stated that the Plan indicates that his property will be taken -he owns
property on the northeast corner of South Elati Street and West Bates Avenue .
Mr . Douglas asked if Mr . Graham could answer this question. Mr . Graham stated that in
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general the guidelines established by the State for property acquisition/compensation would be •
followed . Properties would have to be appraised , sales prices ne gotiated , and , if necessary ,
funds escrowed in court for condemnation proceedings . Compensation is based on fair market
value , and two appraisals .
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Mr. Douglas noted that the proposal is a "Plan '', but is not site-specific at this point .
Mr. Graham agreed that what is before the Commission is a "Plan -or a guide ". It may
indicate a need for more open space in the general area , but not that a specific site will be
devoted to open space , or to a retail development, or an industrial use. Mr. Douglas asked if
efforts will be made to retain existing businesses in Englewood. Mr. Graham agreed that staff
would hope that existing businesses can be relocated and stay in Englewood -the City needs
the small businesses , and there may have to be assistance made available to these businesses
who do need to relocate.
Marvin Hall
2800 South Elati -was sworn in . Mr. Hall stated that "this is a solution looking for a
problem ", and questioned whether the "Plan developed by Civitas and NBD staff isn 't a Plan
to justify their own existence ". Mr. Hall discussed the improvement of the "so-called truck
route", noting that truck traffic is carried primarily by Bates Avenue over to Galapago Street;
if South Fox Street is improved more truck traffic will be encouraged through the
neighborhood . Mr. Hall stated that he has never heard of the 1979 Comprehensive Plan , and
again questioned who initiated this particular "Plan" -"this wasn 't initiated by the
neighborhood " .
Mr . Douglas advised that the Commission is asking those citizens in attendance to express their
concerns regarding the proposed Plan. He noted that everyone wants to see something good
happen on the GIW site, and noted that there has been concern regarding truck traffic using
neighborhood streets. He suggested that relocating the truck traffic to South Fox will free
other residential streets to the east from the heavy traffic impact.
Mr. Hall asked if the reason the truck traffic isn 't put on South Galapago was because of the
Winslow ownership , and they were in opposition to through traffic on that street. Mr. Hall
stated that he was not notified of any of the meetings regarding the development of the
proposed Plan. Mr. Hall stated that he wanted additional information on several issues, such
as: who initiated this Plan -he suggested that "somebody with big ambitions is behind it ".
He stated that he did "not know what Mr. Graham and Mr. Simpson have done before , but if
Trolley Square is an example , [he] wants to see something that will work."
Mr . Weber asked Mr. Hall what he would envision for redevelopment.
Mr. Hall suggested that if the neighborhood viewed a modern car crusher , they would not
object to such a use . Vehicles are hauled out on rail , which is available. Mr. Hall stated that
truck traffic uses South Elati , and travels in front of his ownership/business, and thinks that
use of Bates to Galapago will be continued by truckers . Mr . Hall suggested that there are
alternatives to truck routing unless those property owners will not cooperate . Mr. Hall stated
that he wants to receive a copy of the cooperative agreement between Mr . Cohen and the City
of Englewood , and suggested that copies of this agreement should be available to anyone in the
neighborhood who wants one. Mr. Hall asked what Mr. Cohen 's relation is to the owners of
the GIW site . Mr. Hall referenced the proposed light rail station, and stated that he had
contacted his RTD Board member who told him he had never heard of such a proposal. He
further suggested that there is no provision for a parking area for those who might be using the
light rail station -where will they park their personal vehicles .
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Mr. Douglas suggested that the light-rail station would probably serve primarily the residents
who live in the immediate area who may want to travel to and from jobs in Denver or south in •
Littleton. Or, it may bring employees into the area if the redevelopment includes a
job-generator.
Mr. Hall again discussed the issue of the truck traffic on South Fox Street, noting there is no
tie-in with Denver on South Fox. Mr. Hall suggested that if this Plan is really tied to a transit
stop, the issue needs to be resolved with RTD; he suggested that RTD will not be interested in
developing transit stops every two blocks. Mr. Hall addressed the issue of "open space" -this
will be unproductive and untaxed. Where is the money coming from to finance the
infrastructure improvements. Mr. Hall stated that it appeared to him that the "City is jumping
into something with both feet when they should keep one foot on dry land."
David Peterson
2990 South Galapago -was sworn in. Mr. Peterson stated that he is an owner of property at
2990 South Galapago Street. He asked if the intent of the Plan is really to encourage more
traffic on West Dartmouth Avenue . He suggested that the neighborhood would like to see the
amount of traffic using West Dartmouth Avenue decrease. Mr. Peterson noted that reference
is made to "high density housing", and to the owner-occupied unit versus the renter-occupancy
rate ; he suggested that townhouses and condominium units typically become rentals. The
townhomes are lower cost housing, and purchasers may live in them for a few years, then
move on to something more up-scale . Mr. Peterson expressed concern regarding the
"neck-downs" and suggested that this proposal will only create a place for accidents to occur; •
will the "neck-downs" slow traffic or merely squeeze it together .
Kathryn Graham
3064 South Galapago -was sworn in. Ms. Graham suggested that "whoever thought this up
should be shoved off to a retirement home". She stated that she didn't know how or why the
old depot was moved into the area, Cinderella City has become a white elephant. Ms. Graham
stated that her home is paid for, she has lived there for many years, and she doesn't want to
move. She stated that she is "too old to make payments on a house".
Cindy Scott
3063 South Fox Street -was sworn in. Ms . Scott addressed the issue of "notification", and
stated that despite the attempts to notify persons recited by Mark Graham, the majority of
people did not know that discussions on the Plan were going on, or did not know the nature of
the discussions. Ms. Scott emphasized that "you cannot say that people were not interested".
She referenced the attendance at this meeting in support of her statement that people are
interested. Ms . Scott stated that she had done some research in her immediate area on
ownership versus rental properties; she also researched Arapahoe County records. Contrary to
the 1990 Census, which indicated this area had a 70% rental rate, her research indicates a 60%
ownership/occupancy rate. Ms. Scott commented that during the course of redevelopment,
properties will be sold, demolished, and the rate of home ownership will decrease while the
redevelopment occurs. Ms. Scott stated that if the Plan is adopted, she wants to see more
assurance on what will happen -the Plan lacks specificity. Ms. Scott stated that the staff
report "addresses those who will remain, but doesn't say what will happen to those who won't
stay." As far as the GIW site, she is aware that something will be developed on this property;
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there is no industrial use that will be unobjectionable to someone, but there are industrial uses
that are acceptable. Ms. Scott stated that she has seen the Littleton car-crusher, and did not
find it objectionable. She suggested that redevelopment of the GIW site and increased traffic
would be more objectionable to her. Ms. Scott stated that she , also, would like to see a copy
of the City /Cohen agreement.
Mr. Weber agreed that there may be some industrial uses that are acceptable ; however , the
permitted principal use list in the industrial d istricts is quite lengthy and covers a wide variety
of uses . The City cannot pick and choose which industrial use can go on any specific site ;
there can be no guarantee that an acceptable industrial use would , in fact, be placed on the
GIW site.
Ms . Scott stated that there are conditions and regulations that can be imposed on development ,
and does not accept the premise that the City has no control over what use goes where.
Mr. Welker asked if Ms. Scott's concern on traffic is because of problems she experiences at
the present time. Ms . Scott pointed out that if this Plan is adopted , her property will be taken
for redevelopment; it will not be retained for residential purposes. Mr. Welker asked
Ms . Scott if she was categorizing industrial uses that might be acceptable based on the amount
of traffic they might generate. Ms. Scott stated that her assumptions are based on that , and the
number of people that could be attracted to the area. Ms. Scott stated that it seems the
assumption has been made that a nice, clean residential area is good , and an industrial area is
bad. She said she would rather see the few trucks that presently go through the area than the
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Mr. Dummer noted that if no Plan is developed, the GIW site and the neighborhood in general
would remain pretty much as it presently is. Ms . Scott stated that it is her belief that
improvement will occur naturally in the neighborhood , albeit at a slower pace . Mr . Dummer
pointed out that this Plan, if approved, will serve as a guide for any redevelopment, and that
approval of the Plan is not the final step; in fact , the Plan will have to go before City Council
for approval , and there will be other implementing steps that will come forward for Hearing
before both the Commission and C ity Council. Mr. Dummer noted that without a Plan , a use
such as Waste Management could develop the site . Ms. Scott stated that she is not suggesting
there is no need for a Plan , but that this proposal does need to be modified. Ms . Scott stated
that she has had several telephone conversations with Mr. Mark Graham , and has found him to
be very gracious to give his time to discuss the issue and address her concerns.
Carol Rigdon
3296 South Fox Street -was sworn in. Ms . Rigdon stated that she is scared; she doesn 't know
what will happen on Floyd A venue with the redevelopment of the mall area , and to now have
South Fox improved to a "boulevard " could have horrendous impact on the residential area
south of Dartmouth Avenue. Ms . Rigdon noted that the traffic volume on Floyd Avenue has
lessened since closure of Cinderella City , and she doesn 't want to see more traffic with the
redevelopment of the mall area. Ms. Rigdon stated that her car was totaled this summer -she
had it parked on her street, and it was hit. She stated that she does not want to have to park in
the alley and be fearful getting from the alley into her house.
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Ms . Tobin asked if there was concern about access to Cushing Park . Ms. Rigdon stated that
her child is a teenager, but she does not want the child frequenting Cushing Park because of
the transients frequenting that Park, and of the drug dealing that goes on there. Ms. Rigdon •
emphasized that her concern is not based on the traffic between her home and the Park, but on
the drug dealing.
Mr. Welker noted that Ms . Rigdon lives in an area that will be impacted by redevelopment of
the mall area as well as redevelopment of the north Englewood area. He asked if Ms. Rigdon
is following the proposals for the mall redevelopment, and providing her comments and input
to staff regarding that. Ms. Rigdon stated that she has done so, but not consistently.
Ms. Rigdon stated that she "won't be happy looking at the backside of Wal-Mart."
Carol Tomasso
2998 South Bannock -was sworn in. Ms. Tomasso stated that she understood Mr. Graham
has mailed over 900 postcards giving notice of the four community meetings, and got less than
a 23 return. Ms. Tomasso stated that she and her husband are members of North Englewood
Organization of Neighbors (NEON). Mr. Tomasso attended the first NESAP meeting, and
reported that it was a "cumulative" process -information imparted at each meeting was a
"build-upon" from previous meeting discussions. Ms. Tomasso stated that there were facets of
the initial Plan that were alarming, such as four lanes of traffic on West Dartmouth Avenue.
Concerns were expressed, and City staff and the consultants have tried to address those
concerns. The information and the Plan has changed during the course of the community
meetings. Ms. Tomasso stated that the City staff has been working with NEON and with the
entire community. Ms. Tomasso stated that Mr. Graham has been invited to attend a meeting •
scheduled for January 12, 1998, 6:30 p.m. at the Mayflower Congregational Church to discuss
the proposed Plan; Mr. Graham has agreed to attend. Ms. Tomasso stated that there is a lot of
fear and panic in the neighborhood related to displacement and relocation issues. They want
more information on this so the neighborhood can make an informed decision on whether to
support or oppose the proposed Plan. There are a lot of questions that may or may not be
answered during the course of the Public Hearing; they want to have more neighborhood
involvement.
Mr. Douglas commented that the Public Hearing may be continued to January 2om; this has not
been determined at this time.
Ms. Tomasso stated that it is in the best interest of the community to get involved. She noted
that the Plan does not address retail concerns, nor the impact of retail development on the
residents. Ms. Tomasso stated that there are concerns within the neighborhood that existing
residents will become "victims", and that there will be a loss of property value. The entire
community would be very concerned if this were to occur. Ms. Tomasso suggested that we
begin with the GIW redevelopment and development of a light-rail stop; address those issues
satisfactorily. Then, proceed to address other redevelopment issues; this should provide the
residents and property owners an opportunity to benefit from increased property values if and
when they are displaced/relocated. Ms. Tomasso likened Englewood to a "sieve" noting that
traffic travels through the City north and south, east and west. Unless this entire neighborhood •
were to be "cul-de-sacd" there can be no control over the through traffic . Ms. Tomasso stated
that there is concern about the transit stop, and advocated the need for more information to
enable the neighborhood to determine whether this will be a positive facet of the Plan.
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Ms. Tomasso suggested that there should be another point of access from South Santa Fe
Drive, and not rely only on West Dartmouth Avenue . Ms. Tomasso stated that she has spoken
with Mr. Graham on several occasions, and that "he doesn't have horns and a forked tail , and
does really listen to people."
Ms . Tobin noted that points of intersection with Santa Fe Drive are governed by the Colorado
Department of Highways, not the City of Englewood.
Ms . Cottle asked if businesses have been involved in the NEON meetings. Ms. Tomasso
stated that NEON has been a grass-root effort of the residents in this neighborhood, but they
are trying to get more residents and the business people involved.
Bob Ryan
Ed Sabin
3036 South Galapago Street -was sworn in. Mr. Ryan stated that he was speaking on behalf
of Mr. Sabin , who is developmentally disabled. Mr. Ryan stated Mr. Sabin has purchased his
home, and is very proud of his home. Mr. Sabin does not want to move, and a relocation
would impact Mr . Sabin quite severely. Mr. Sabin has fears that even if he were to be
relocated , could he replicate what he has now . Mr. Ryan reiterated that change and relocation
would be very hard for Mr. Sabin. Mr. Sabin's home is right in the middle of the area
designated for redevelopment. Mr. Sabin's present location is convenient -he can walk to
stores if he needs to, and uses RTD to travel further distances . Mr. Ryan asked why the City
would think this redevelopment would be successful if Cinderella City has been unsuccessful.
Mr. Ryan stated that Mr. Sabin has indicated that the GIW site is fine as it is ; he just wants to
stay in his home. He feels there is the potential that something could happen is a threat to the
neighborhood residents, and makes them all uneasy.
George Levings
595 West Eastman A venue -was sworn in. Mr. Levings testified that "it seems a little
premature for a pie-in-the-sky development" plan to be pitted against something just getting off
the ground . Mr. Levings stated that he did not receive any postcard, nor did he get a door
hanger notifying him of any of the community meetings. He stated that he purchased his house
as an investment , and he has a four-year-old son. Mr. Levings noted that classes from the
elementary school walk to the Park and back. Mr . Levings stated that he is used to truck
traffic using South Fox and Dartmouth A venue. He suggested that if we want to revitalize the
neighborhood, there is need to work with the residents. Mr. Levings also noted that the first
step to revitalization is to "clean up Broadway -Broadway is a pig-sty". Once Broadway is
improved , the abutting neighborhoods will improve. Mr. Levings noted that when he first
moved to Colorado , he lived at Kimberly Woods, and his vehicle was broken into three times.
He bought a home to get out of a high density area. Now, the Plan proposes to put high
density into this area, which will contribute to an increase in crime rate. Mr. Levings stated
that he presently hears buses in the area from 5:30 a.m. to midnight. He noted there are three
main arteries serving the area -South Broadway, South Santa Fe Drive, and U .S. 285.
Mr. Levings suggested that the redevelopment of the mall will ta x financial resources of the
City. He urged that more thought be put into this Plan before the bulldozers are brought into
the neighborhoods; wait a few years to determine what impact the redeveloped mall will have
on the neighborhood.
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Dennis Shum
3053 South Galapago Street -was sworn in. Mr. Shum noted that a lot of concerns have been
expressed during the course of the Public Hearing . No one has explained what Galapago is •
like: he stated that he has trains to the west, and cranes to the south. Mr. Shum stated that he
can estimate at least 40 to 50 big trucks per day travel down his street, including wrecking
trucks with vehicles in tow. He saw the old Depot be moved in; people have been purchasing
homes and moving in; homes and the neighborhood have cleaned up. Mr. Shum stated that he
has a three-year-old and a four-year-old, when he puts his kids into the car, he has to place
himself in the line of traffic to protect his children. Mr. Shum referenced the discussion about
traffic going through the area into Denver; this will not stop with the new Plan. The GIW site
will develop -the industrial area in this neighborhood could be a "warehouse dream".
Mr. Shum discussed financing street improvements, noting that Denver won't be investing any
money in infrastructure improvements until they see revenue coming in. Mr. Shum testified
that the imposition of the moratorium on industrial development and threat of possible rezoning
has dropped his property value. People who want to sell their property are stymied because of
the disclosure requirements; no one will want to purchase residential property if there is a
possibility they will be moved out and lose money. Mr. Shum noted that developers buy the
property up and then pocket money once the development has occurred. He suggested that the
developers will provide the money and the City will do the condemnation work . Mr. Shum
stated that he is required to live within 15 to 20 minutes from his job -he stated that he works
for the City Utilities Department -and he will feel really bad if the City kicks him out of his
home. Englewood is composed of working class people; he stated that he purchased his home
for $69,000 and has put a lot of money into improvements. But why make more improvements
-why even paint a house -if it is scheduled to be bulldozed within one or two years. Mr. •
Shum stated that the police officers won 't come out to the neighborhood to take a report when
something does happen. Mr. Shum suggested that the neighborhood isn't "dilapidated -it's
only the way the City views it". Mr. Shum stated that he and other residents would like to see
their property values increased, and suggested that the City come up with a plan to assist the
existing residents and businesses in fixing up their properties -a no or low-interest loan
program available for fixing up their property. Mr. Shum urged that more options be explored
and investigated. Mr. Shum recalled the December 16m open house at which time he said he
was told that the "pictures weren't important; the words are what was to be approved". He
noted that many people feel they have been "rolled over by government", and that "big money
motivates them". Mr. Shum noted that redevelopment of the GIW site doesn't mean a
car-crusher will go in. He urged that staff talk to people -the residents are scared. Mr. Shum
reiterated that rezoning will devalue property.
Lynette Lansdon
3034 South Galapago -was sworn in. She testified she purchased her home 2.5 years ago;
this is her first home, and she is a single mother. She stated that it's great for Englewood to be
redeveloped, and that the neighborhood needs a "pick-me-upper". There is a lot of traffic in
the neighborhood, and she takes her child to school and to the Park. Ms . Lansdon stated that
if this Plan is pursued, staff really needs to sit down and talk to the people.
Sue Hall
455 Sherman Street -stated that she was speaking as a representative of the GIW property
owner. Ms. Hall stated that GIW ownership has never been notified of any of the meetings
over the last several months, either by postcard, by doorhanger, or by telephone. Ms. Hall
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stated that there is no relationship between David Cohen and the GIW owners . Ms . Hall stated
that there has been a lot of "innuendo " regarding proposed uses for the GIW site . Ms. Hall
testified that there has never been consideration of a hazardous chemical storage , or car
crushing operation; there was one use which was an auto parts reuse operation that was
considered . Ms. Hall suggested that there are ways to put two unlike uses next to each other
and to mitigate the impacts of those uses. Ms . Hall stated that the GIW ownership will not put
any obnox ious use on the site which will impact the City and the residential neighborhood.
Ms. Hall stated that this is an old historical building and use ; businesses from years ago had no
concerns about environmental issues and land contamination . Ms. Hall stated that she cannot
envision any really heavy industrial uses wanting to use the GIW site ; she did point out,
however , th at there are very few sites in the metro area zoned for heavy industrial use that
have rail access , which the GIW site has. Ms . Hall stated that the GIW site, as it is today , is
not dangerous, but does have a lot of serious environmental issues that need to be addressed.
There is an on-going fact-finding assessment going on at this time . Ms. Hall stated that any
kind of zoning or overlay district at this time will be very premature; nothing can be done until
the environmental problems have been identified and remediated . Ms. Hall reviewed some of
her professional history, noting that she had worked with the Denver Urban Renewal Authority
over 20 years ago , and discussed the approach used at that time by clearing sites and noted that
it has taken 22 years to rebuild the downtown area . Ms . Hall stated that a community is
composed of people -not plans. She stated that the GIW ownership pledges to work with the
City and the community in any redevelopment of the site , but cautioned that she did not foresee
redevelopment of this site happening in the short-term .
Steve Deyo
3053 South Fox -was sworn in. Mr. Deyo suggested that it will be a shame to displace
residents; he has lived in his home for 18 months. Mr. Deyo stated that he has seen homes
being improved. Mr . Deyo testified that it will be difficult for anyone to sell their property
because of the chaos created by the proposed Plan. This has created a lot of problems for
residents -people have had to put their lives on hold for some time since the moratorium went
into effect and now extended . Mr . Deyo stated that 70 to 80 year old homes shouldn't be
demolished . The Plan is powerful, but doesn 't really give anything back to the property
owners or to the City of Englewood. The Plan needs to give more to the neighborhood and to
the City . He stated that it is a shame to see an older neighborhood "shoved under the rug ."
Brian Gay
3049 South Fox -was sworn in. Mr. Gay stated that there has been a lot of good input given
during the course of the Hearing. He urged that the Commission and City make a decision on
the Plan because it is unfair to the neighborhood to wait around while the Plan is refined.
Mr. Gay stated that he has put a lot of work into his property , but with the uncertainty fostered
by the proposed Plan , he doesn 't really want to even take his trash out.
Diane Schimansky
2957 South Fox Street -was sworn in ; she stated that she is the third generation to live in her
home , and the house is paid for. She is employed by "Meals on Wheels", a low-paying job ,
and she could not qualify for a new loan were she to have to purchase another home .
Ms. Schimansky stressed that this is really a "family home". She urged that the Commission
not forget the people; many of them have lived in this area for a long time, and don't want to
have to leave.
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Terry Shaw was sworn in, and testified that he did not sign in to speak. Mr. Shaw cited new
development in a block south of U.S. 285 which was formerly developed with greenhouses; •
this block has been developed with new-single-family homes. He suggested that the same
procedure could be done in this neighborhood. Englewood schools are going down hill; in
Englewood there are typically one and two bedroom homes. We need to construct three and
four bedroom homes and encourage young families to locate here; this would improve the
neighborhood.
Bill Schimansky
2957 South Fox Street -was sworn in. Mr. Schimansky addressed the GIW site, noting that
he had been employed at General Iron for many years. Many people's livelihood depended on
General Iron. He doesn't like hearing it being called a "piece of junk".
Dean Buffington
590 West Bates -was sworn in. Mr. Buffington noted that it appears a road will be going
through the center of his building . He stated that he received no notification of any meetings,
and the only way he was aware of this meeting was by "happenstance". He asked by what
means will property owners be compensated for the loss of their property and/or business.
Will this compensation be through the public/private cooperation. He is also interested in the
zoning process even though it appears that his property will be taken. Mr. Buffington
reiterated his desire to know more about the reimbursement proposals. Mr. Buffington asked
about future notification processes; he wants to be aware of what is taking place in regard to
this Plan.
Mr. Douglas noted that once the public hearing process at the Planning Commission level is
completed, the proposal will be referred to City Council which body is also required to hold a
Public Hearing . Notice of Public Hearing will be published in the Englewood Herald; he
advised Mr. Buffington that he may also call the Neighborhood & Business Development
Office at any time to find out what is occurring . Ms. Tobin advised that Mr. Buffington can
also call his City Council representative.
Mr . Simpson advised that it is more appropriate to discuss the proposed Plan with
representatives of the Planning Commission and NBD staff at this time until the Plan is
referred to City Council. Mr. Simpson suggested the need to continue to take testimony at the
Planning Commission level, provide staff an opportunity to refine the Plan to try to address
concerns that have been expressed, and not involve the City Council until it is time for the
Public Hearing before that body. He strongly urged that citizens with questions call the NBD
office.
Mr. Welker emphasized that the public hearing before the Planning Commission is not the end
of the process, but only the beginning . There is a lot of business yet to be addressed before
this Plan becomes reality.
Mr. Buffington asked that his name be added to the notification list.
Mr. Horner stated that the Planning Commission is a citizens board appointed by City Council;
he asked that any member of the audience interested in serving on such a board make
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application for appointment. Mr. Horner stated that the Planning Commission is an advisory
board to the City Council, and that all members of the Commission are required to be residents
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Marti Kucharski
511 West Dartmouth Avenue -was sworn. Ms. Kucharski stated that she has also spoken with
Mr. Graham, and is very confused. The proposed Plan isn't "definite" -it's a maybe, a
possibility, etc. and she doesn't like this. Ms. Kucharski stated that her home was built in the
1890's; they have put over $100,000 into improvement of the property, and resents the
implication that it is of no value. Ms . Kucharski stated that there is no need for an "arch" .or a
front door to Englewood. She asked "when will you listen to the people of Englewood". The
residents of this neighborhood love Englewood and that is why they choose to live here. She
noted that her mother is 102 years of age, and still lives in Englewood in a nursing home .
Ms . Kucharski stated that she and her husband distributed flyers advising of this hearing over
the weekend, and they heard "horror stories" -people are wondering why we needed arches.
Ms. Kucharski stated that Mark Graham said we needed the arch, and that people don't want to
drive by old, broken-down homes. Ms. Kucharski stated that nobody she or her husband
spoke to received mailings or flyers regarding previous meetings. Ms. Kucharski stated that
traffic has increased over 2003, and there is an elementary school in the neighborhood. She
stated that she counted and clocked vehicles for one minute: there were five semi trucks, three
dump trucks, a [Budweiser] truck and 55 cars which went by her home in that one minute
time. Where are all these vehicles going. Ms. Kucharski stated that the small homes are good
starter homes -what will happen to them -will they be scraped off. She urged that the
proposed Plan be "scrapped"; no one in this area had anything to say about development of
this Plan. She stated that she is not part of the NEON group . If people received a flyer , "they
thought it was an invitation to a donut party". Ms. Kucharski stated that she had also opposed
construction of Cinderella City, and of Trolley Square; both of the projects have "failed", and
we don't need another project to blow up in our face.
Rhonda Mennard
2727 South Delaware -was sworn in. She stated that she is a single parent, has lived at this
location for eight years. She is trying to buy her home . She doesn't want her child to grow up
in a high-density neighborhood, and wants to keep her daughter in the Englewood school
system. She suggested that a better Plan can be developed. She noted that Dartmouth Avenue
cannot be crossed unless at a signalized intersection. If the present Plan is implemented, how
will kids get to the elementary school. She urged that the residential area be left alone. She
stated that she lives in very close proximity to the GIW site, and doesn't want to see things
changed.
Joe Steinback
3080 South Fox -was sworn in. Stated he bought his property two years ago, which was a
shambles, but he saw potential in the property. He stated that he has been putting a lot of
money into the property --structural improvements, as well as new landscaping. If the Plan is
approved and implemented, and South Fox Street becomes a major truck route, he will have
done a lot of work for nothing. He stated that he has a three-year-old son who would be
attending Bishop Elementary School when he reaches school-age . He urged the Commission
to think about the kids -improve the residential areas around the schools . Bringing in more
trucks and traffic isn't the right thing to do. He stated that he did work for Kimberly Woods,
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an apartment development in east Englewood; he agreed with a previous speaker regarding the
high crime incidence, and noted that in high density neighborhoods no one knows who lives
where . He feels that the North Englewood area can improve by itself without someone [a •
developer] coming in because of financial benefit. Mr. Steinback urged that the Plan
concentrate on improvement of and creation of more residential development; he questioned
that retail development would be of benefit to the neighborhood. He suggested that possibly
some small office buildings would be acceptable -some type of development that will not
attract large trucks.
Mr. Douglas asked if anyone else wished to speak. No one else indicated they wanted to
speak . He thanked all members of the audience for their attendance. Mr. Douglas called for a
vote to continue the Public Hearing.
Welker moved:
Horner seconded: The Public Hearing on Case #CP-98-01 be continued to January 20,
1998 at the hour of 7 :00 P .M .
AYES :
NAYS:
Cottle, Dummer, Horner, Tobin, Weber, Welker, Douglas
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT : None
The motion carried.
IV. DIRECTOR'S CHOICE
Mr. Simpson stated that he had nothing to bring before the Commission.
V. ATTORNEY'S CHOICE
There was no member of the City Attorney's staff present.
VI. COMMISSIONER'S CHOICE
Mr. Douglas asked if a study session will be held to work on the NESAP. Mr. Simpson stated
that Mr. Graham will be attending the NEON meeting on January 12th. The Public Hearing
has been continued to January 20th; he anticipated that some additional testimony will be taken
at that meeting, and that the Commission may want to conduct a study session at the conclusion
of the Hearing to consider a revision strategy to the Plan.
There being no further business to come before the Commission, the meeting was declared
adjourned at 10:40 p.m.
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