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CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING C01\11\11SSION
AUGUST 5, 1997
I. CALL TO ORDER.
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at 7 :00
P.M. in the Englewood City Council Chambers, Chairman Douglas presiding.
Members Present: Tobin, Weber, Welker, Cottle, Dummer, Garrett, Homer, Douglas
Ex-officio Simpson (departed early for another meeting)
Members Absent: Styes
Also Present: Harold J. Stitt, Planning Coordinator
Nancy Reid, Assistant City Attorney
Brad Denning, Planning Assistant Intern
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
July 22, 1997
Chairman Douglas stated that the Minutes of July 22, 1997 were to be considered for approval .
Homer moved:
Tobin seconded: The Minutes of July 22, 1997 be approved as written.
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Weber, Welker, Dummer, Homer, Douglas
None
Cottle, Garrett, Tobin
Sty es
The motion carried.
ID. SOUTH SUBURBAN PARK & RECREATION DISTRICT
Cornerstone Park PD Amendment
CASE #PD-97-01
Mr. Douglas stated that the Public Hearing is regarding a proposed amendment to the Planned
Development for Cornerstone Park.
Mr. Douglas asked for a motion to open the Public Hearing.
Tobin moved:
Welker seconded: The Public Hearing on PD #97-01 be opened .
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AYES:
NAYS:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Welker, Cottle, Dummer, Garrett, Homer, Tobin, Weber, Douglas
None
None
Sty es
The motion carried.
Mr. Douglas stated that the Planning Commission will address only land use issues during the
course of the Public Hearing on the proposed Planned Development amendment. He asked
that members of the audience present to testify on this case please keep their remarks focused
on the land use issue. Mr. Douglas asked that staff make their presentation.
Harold Stitt was sworn in, and testified that the Planned Development was approved in 1993
upon application by the South Suburban Parks & Recreation District to develop what is now
known as "Cornerstone Park". This site, comprised of 66.5 acres in total, encompasses the
former Arapahoe County Fairgrounds and the former South Drive-In Theater site on the north
side of West Belleview A venue. However, the proposed PD amendment focuses on the south-
east comer of the park that lies south of West Belleview A venue and west of South Hickory
Street. The zoning for this site is B-2, Business, and R-3, High Density Residence. Both zone
districts allow parks as a permitted use as a "public facility."
Mr. Stitt testified that the Planned Development was approved in 1993. In 1996, the Compre-
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hensive Zoning Ordinance was amended, and the Planned Development regulations were re-•
pealed and replaced with a Planned Unit Development District. Within the PUD regulations
there is a statement that amendments to Planned Developments approved prior to the PUD en-
actment shall be considered under the Planned Development guidelines that were in effect at
the time of initial approval. The requested amendment to the 1993 PD will add two sports
venues to the southeast comer of the park, provide additional parking, informational kiosks,
and small shelters. The sports venues proposed are two in-line hockey rinks, and one skate
park. Also to be added are four information kiosks, four shelters without restrooms, and 107
additional parking spaces.
Mr. Stitt cited standards the Commission must consider in reviewing a Planned Development
or amendment thereto, and addressed the compliance of the proposal with these standards.
Mr. Stitt stated that the proposed sports venue additions do not change the character of the
Park. Mr. Stitt testified that the traffic circulation patterns will not change inasmuch as only
an expansion of an approved parking lot is proposed. The in-line hockey and skate park are
situated to minimize impacts on the residential uses; there will be small scale structures in
conjunction with these sports venues, and there will be landscape screening to the south and
east of the recreational venues. Mr. Stitt pointed out that the parking lot on the southeast por-
tion of the Park was included on the original PD approved in 1993. The point of access to the
parking lot will not change, but the configuration will change to accommodate the additional
spaces. Mr. Stitt testified that the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance does not specifically ad-
dress the minimum required parking for a Park or recreational use. The City typically allows •
applicants to present standards they feel are appropriate to the use proposed. In this case,
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South Suburban has cited standards presently used by Douglas County , which are .5 spaces per
individual. Mr. Stitt pointed out that the park is adjacent to residential use in Littleton on three
sides ; the applicants will plant extensive landscaping to buffer the park use from the residential
development . Mr. Stitt noted that the location of the proposed in-line hockey and skate park is
approximately 150 feet west and 20 feet above South Hickory Street. The Park is being devel-
oped as a handicapped accessible facility . There is no bicycle/pedestrian trail system through
the Park; however , there are trails along the perimeter . Eventual plans call for the connection
of the bicycle/pedestrian trails with existing trail systems along Big Dry Creek. Mr. Stitt
stated that the natural drainage flows of the site have been maintained , the majority use is open
space with very few structures (shelters and kiosks ).
Mr. Stitt stated that staff does recommend approval of the proposed Planned Development
amendment. He asked if the Commission members had questions of him.
Mr. Garrett asked for clarification on the location of the additional parking spaces. Mr. Stitt
cited parking areas with figures as approved in 1993 and the proposed spaces in the amend-
ment , noting a net gain of 107 spaces . The bulk of the additional parking spaces will be lo-
cated in the southeast quadrant of the Park.
Mr. Garrett asked that the new shelters be identified. Mr. Stitt complied.
Mr. Douglas asked if notice of the Public Hearing was given. Mr. Stitt submitted Notice of
Public Hearing which was published in the Englewood Herald on July 24 , 1997, and the Certi-
fication of Posting for the site . Mr. Stitt also entered into the record copies of letters received
from Frank and Kathryn Holland, 5304 South Datura Street, Littleton; from Bernard A. and
Linda Lee Funk, 5323 South Datura Street , Littleton; and a letter/petition submitted by David
L. and Ruth 0. Hansen , 4511 South Galapago Street, Englewood. Mr. Stitt stated that the
letters submitted by Mr. and Mrs . Holland , and by Mr. and Mrs. Funk, express concerns re-
garding the proposed recreational additions to the Park. The letter/petition submitted by Mr.
and Mrs . Hansen address fees charged Englewood residents who use facilities in Cornerstone
Park even though the Park is located within the limits of Englewood . Mr. Stitt emphasized
that this issue may not be addressed by the Commission; it must be negotiated by the South
Suburban Board of Directors with the Englewood City Council.
Mr. Brett Collins , Senior Planner for South Suburban Park & Recreation District, was sworn
in. Mr. Collins introduced Mr. David Stipe , Planner , and Ms. Joanne Gould, Program Ad-
ministrator for the District. He noted that these individuals have worked closely on the devel-
opment of the master plan for Cornerstone Park.
David Stipe , Planner with South Suburban , was sworn in. Mr. Stipe testified that since the
approval of the Planned Development for the Park in 1993 , the recreational needs of the people
around the Park, and others using the Park, have changed. The revised Plan addresses the
needs and desires that have been made known to South Suburban officials. Mr. Stipe noted
that shelters proposed in the original PD have been decreased in size , but there are more shel-
ters -the net result is no decrease or increase in square footage devoted to shelters, but a
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greater number of shelters . Mr. Stipe located the shelters on the plan for the Commission.
Mr. Stipe stated that the additional informational kiosks are needed to disseminate information
on the programs offered , and location of specific activities to the users of the Park. Mr. Stipe
then addressed the in-line hockey rinks and the skate park proposed for the southeast sector of
the Park. In October , 1995 , a public meeting was held to discuss the addition of these two
sports venues to the Park; the meeting was advertised , but was not well attended. Those who
did attend the public meeting had the opportunity to voice their opinions and concerns on the
proposed PD amendment . The in-line hockey rinks and skate park will provide an opportunity
to youngsters , and to adults , to do their in-line hockey and skateboarding in an approved loca-
tion. Currently , youngsters who want to skate are chased off private property, out of parking
lots for malls , churches , and other places of business. Skating in the public streets is not ac-
ceptable , either .
Mr. Stipe stated that the hockey rinks and skate park will be lighted -probably about 20 foot
high lights similar to those used for tennis courts . There should not be light spreading into
adjacent homes. All South Suburban parks are open from dawn to 11 P.M . The skate park
will be of concrete construction , and will be sunken so that the majority of the bowl is below
grade ; it will have a walkway around the lip of the bowl for spectators, and for the skaters to
use in conjunction with their activity. There is no fee proposed for use of either the rinks or
skate park; however , there may be some programs and clinics scheduled for which there will
be a fee charged . Mr. Stipe estimated that during scheduled programs , they anticipate 35 users
of the rinks/skate park . There will be programs and clinics scheduled approximately 30% of
the time.
Mr. Stipe acknowledged they do expect some increase in the amount of traffic generated by the
new sports venues . To accommodate the increased Park usage , they have provided an overall
increase of 107 parking spaces from the original Planned Development. Mr. Stipe noted that
not all the parking spaces will be constructed at once; the parking lots will be developed as
needed , but the areas must be designated for parking on the plan so that the specific area will
be not developed or landscaped and have to be cleared before the parking lot can be con-
structed . Mr. Stipe stated that the District officials feel this is an exciting change, and that
they will be providing two new facilities that are needed.
Ms . Tobin asked if the hockey rinks and skate park will be restricted to children. Mr. Stipe
stated they will not be restricted .
Mr . Welker asked what activities were proposed for this area in the original Planned Devel-
opment . Mr. Stipe stated that senior activities had been proposed for this area; they have been
relocated to the west closer to the community building. Senior activities will include shuffle-
board courts , lawn bowlirig courts , a croquet lawn , and horseshoe pits.
Mr . Welker asked if there is a net loss or gain in vegetation. Mr. Stipe stated that any loss
will be compensated with increased density of plantings.
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Mr. Welker asked if the in-line hockey rinks will be "depressed" as will be the skate park.
Mr. Stipe stated that the hockey rinks will be at-grade; they propose to have netting at the end
of the rinks to catch the balls used by the hockey players (pucks are not used for in-line
hockey). Mr. Welker asked how motorists and pedestrians on the street and sidewalk would
be protected from the balls hit out of the rink. Mr. Stipe reiterated that fencing is proposed
only at the ends of the rinks.
Mr. Welker questioned the lighting proposed, and what controls will be in place. Mr. Stipe
stated that the parking lot lights will be on until the Park closes at 11 P .M.; lights on the fields
will be on while activities are scheduled.
Mr. Welker inquired about security in the Park. Mr. Stipe stated that the Park is policed;
South Suburban employs "park rangers" who do the policing. Mr. Stipe noted that the District
has a strict graffiti removal policy -if anything is tagged, the graffiti must be removed within
48 hours. Mr. Stipe commented that he has discussed the issue of skate parks and in-line
hockey rinks with other officials throughout the state and, indeed, throughout the country;
their comments are that the "kids police themselves"; they take pride in "their" facility and
don't want it trashed or damaged.
Mr. Welker asked about provisions for spectators during programmed events. Mr. Stipe stated
that there is a small "bleacher" area for the hockey rinks; they can provide temporary seating
for the skating clinics.
• Mr. Welker inquired about concession stands. Mr. Stipe stated that no concession stands are
proposed.
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Ms. Cottle asked if the courts are already in place. Mr. Stipe stated they are not; the District
must follow a budget process; next year they propose to accomplish quite a bit of paving, at
least one of the in-line hockey rinks and maybe the skate park.
Ms. Cottle asked if the District had reviewed previous use of the site. Mr. Stipe stated that he
is aware there was an ice arena on part of the site, with a horse track and stables in the center
and north portion of the site. They have done test borings at numerous locations, and have
found concrete and asphalt debris from dumping that occurred over the years; the District has
removed this debris when it has been located.
Mr. Homer inquired about the entry into the Park from Hickory. Mr. Stitt stated that the point
of entry from South Hickory has not changed from the original PD proposal.
Ms. Tobin inquired about policing provisions for the safety of youngsters in the Park; she
noted that parks attract pedophiles. Mr. Stipe again referenced their use of park rangers. Ms.
Tobin asked if the rangers had a regular patrol through the Park. Mr. Stipe stated he could not
address the "regularity" of their patrol.
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Ms. Tobin asked whether the District had a policy regarding use of radios by Park visitors.
Mr. Stipe stated that this has been discussed, but radios are allowed. Ms. Tobin commented
that many people object to the volume of the radios.
Ms. Cottle asked about telephones within the Park. Mr. Stipe stated that there will be pay
phones or courtesy phones at kiosks and/or shelters. They have a pay phone at the miniature
golf course. He suggested that emergency phones may be incorporated into the kiosks.
Mr. Welker commented that kids ride bicycles, and asked if there was a plan to have more
walkways or bicycle trails. Mr. Stipe stated that they will have four foot walkways on the
south side of the park, which can be extended from the southeast entrance point further north
along South Hickory. Mr. Welker stated that he would like to see this added.
Mr. Garrett asked how the build-out for the parking related to the build-out of the hockey and
skating areas. How many parking spaces are estimated for these two uses. Mr. Stipe esti-
mated that 37 parking spaces would be required for both the hockey rink and skate park.
Mr. Douglas stated that he understood the lights will be on until the Park closes; he asked for
verification on the closing time. Mr. Stipe stated that the Park closes at 11 P.M., and opens at
dawn.
Ms. Sandra Johnson, 5250 South Huron Way #11-205, was sworn in. Ms. Johnson testified
that she lives right across the street from the proposed sports development. She stated that
Cornerstone Park is a "beautiful Park", but the idea of lighting and traffic at the Park until 11
P.M. disturbs her. Ms. Johnson stated that she is not bothered by the existing lighting, but
noted that this development is much closer to her residence, and is concerned. She suggested
that even if the lights are focused "downward", she cannot star watch from her balcony.
Leigh Dehne, 5250 South Huron Way #2-310, was sworn in. He testified that he is a school
bus driver for Littleton Public Schools, and has been so employed for four years. Mr. Dehne
suggested that "you are setting a dangerous precedent" when you have large groups of young-
sters in the Park without adult supervision. He noted that kids get into fights, do drugs, do
graffiti. Mr. Dehne cited Benedict Park in Brighton, and noted that there is considerable graf-
fiti and vandalism in this skate park. Mr. Dehne stated that he is sure South Suburban has
"good intentions" and would be less concerned if there was some way to provide the adult su-
pervision. He suggested that a fee be imposed for use of the facilities to pay for an adult to
oversee the rinks and skate park. Mr. Dehne stated that these facilities are dangerous, and
there will be users that are injured; there must be someone present to provide assistance. Mr.
Dehne noted that a few years ago, one of the tennis courts in Belleview Park was turned into a
skateboard area complete with ramp, but it was not very successful and the skateboard area has
been removed. Mr. Dehne emphasized that the decisions Englewood makes regarding this
Park will affect people who live in Littleton. Mr. Dehne stated that he is opposed to this pro-
posed development -he is opposed to this plan.
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Ms. Tobin asked if Mr. Dehne felt it was safer for youngsters to try skating in parking lots or
on streets. Mr. Dehne acknowledged that it is no safer; he reiterated the need for adult super-
vision, and also advocated that the hockey rinks and skate park be located in . an industrial area
so they do not impact residential uses.
Eddie Hix, 6253 South Prescott, was sworn in. Mr. Hix offered his testimony from the per-
spective of a teenage skater -there is a need for this skate park and the hockey rinks. The
young people have no place to skate where the property owners or business people aren't op-
posed to it and chase them off. He stated that he has gone to the Boulder skate park and it is a
good park, but it's not close by. Mr. Hix stated that he thinks people from all over the metro
area and State will use the skate park, and that it could attract skate groups from other states.
This facility will keep kids off the streets, and it will be good for the kids to have a location
they can go to. Mr. Hix noted that Boulder charges a $5 fee. Mr. Hix stated that he does not
think there will be a problem with graffiti, that people "don't want to mess up where they
skate"; skaters do not use drugs -they are interested in staying in good health.
Ms. Joanne Gould was sworn in. Ms. Gould works with South Suburban, and stated that the
in-line hockey and skate parks will be part of the existing programs offered by the District.
Mr. Dummer asked if there will be open skating when programs and clinics are not scheduled .
Ms. Gould stated that the rinks and skate park will be open for the same period of time the
Park is open; restrictions would apply only for the period of time when clinics or programs are
scheduled. Ms. Gould suggested that the Englewood skateboard use in Belleview Park was
discontinued because of injury concerns ; she stated that she has run in-line hockey for over one
year with no injuries. Participants are required to wear pads and helmets; pucks are not al-
lowed -participants use balls instead. Ms . Gould suggested that most of the problems are with
the "image" of hockey players and skateboarders. Ms . Gould stated that there is a civic duty
to provide locations for youngsters who want to skate.
Mr. Douglas expressed his concern regarding lack of adult attendants/supervisors. Ms. Gould
stated that during all clinics and scheduled programs, there will be adult supervisors; there will
not be such service during the open skating times. She pointed out that there are many activi-
ties occurring in the park for which there is no adult supervision. She supported providing an
emergency phone system in the Park. Ms. Gould commented that the Boulder skate park is
one of the few skate parks that provide adult staff.
Mr . Garrett asked for clarification on lighting: when will the rinks and skate park be lighted,
and when will the lights be off. Ms. Gould stated that the Park closes at 11 P.M.; they try to
assure that scheduled activities end at 10 P.M. Ms. Gould stated that programs for in-line
hockey will run March through October.
Ms. Tobin inquired if there is a curfew for youngsters in Littleton. Ms. Gould stated that she
could not answer that .
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Ms. Cottle asked if a fee could be charged if an attendant is required. Ms. Gould stated that
fees can be charged; she pointed out that they will need to research this to determine the finan-
cial feasibility of charging fees to pay for attendants.
Mr: Garrett asked what activities would be scheduled in the skate park. Ms. Gould suggested
that skating demonstrations, clinics, rodeos, and promotions could be scheduled. Ms. Gould
pointed out that skating is a "free routine" for the individual skaters, and she doesn 't anticipate
many programmed activities.
Mr. Stipe stated that , in his opinion, the lights in the skate park itself would seldom be on, and
certainly not on an every evening basis .
Mr. Welker asked whether the proposed skate park will be comparable in size to the Boulder
skate park. Mr. Stipe stated that the Englewood skate park will be considerably larger. He
stated that Boulder allows about 50 skaters at a time in a 3 ,500 square foot area; he also under-
stands that Boulder is planning construction of a second skate park. Mr. Welker asked how
South Suburban has arrived at the average of 35 skate park users at any one time. Mr. Stipe
stated he has had discussions with skate park operators throughout the country, and this figure
was derived from information gleaned from those discussions.
Mr. Stipe commented that Parker is also designing a skate park. He emphasized that the Dis-
trict has to keep accessibility for skaters in mind in looking for locations for skate parks. He
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stated that the District has looked at building a second skate park in the eastern part of the •
District; however, the sites are not within established parks or on District-owned property.
Mr. Stipe stated that South Suburban wants to develop something that the skaters can be proud
of, and related that in Grand Junction the skaters joined in cleaning up the site during and after
construction, and have an "ownership" in the skate park. Mr. Stipe stated that the District
feels this is a perfect location for a skate park, and that Arapahoe County Sheriff Sullivan is
supportive of a skate park development . He stated that the District has written a grant pro-
posal with Mobile Pre-Mix for development of the skate park. They want to make the skate
park a safe, accessible, and affordable venue for the skaters. Mr . Stipe noted that "kids take
care of each other", but acknowledged that the District must provide the opportunity to get
help if it is needed, and this would be accomplished with the provision of pay phones through-
out the Park. Mr. Stipe commented that many parks do not have attendants.
Ms. Tobin commented on discussions she has had with some youngsters who have frequented
Cornerstone Park, and they have indicated that there is gang activity in the Park. Ms. Tobin
reiterated her opinion on the need for security checks by park police or rangers on a regular
basis.
Cord Hashbarger, 5555 South Elmwood Street, was sworn in. Mr. Hashbarger, a teenager,
testified to the need for a skate park, and that "kids get kicked off private sites and cops write
tickets". He stated that he has visited Cushing Park but didn't feel the skating facilities were
very good and the Park is always very busy. •
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• Jim Hix, 6253 South Prescott, was sworn in. Mr. Hix stated that he has driven a number of
the youngsters who like to skate to Boulder; he stated that the kids who frequent the skate
parks are very well behaved, and teach each other how to rollerblade. Mr. Hix stated that is a
pleasure to be around these youngsters.
Jennifer Loeser, 5301 South Hickory Street, was sworn in. Ms. Loeser expressed concern
about smaller youngsters who may want to skate; if there is no provision for proper supervi-
sion the small kids might get hurt. She noted that Mr. Stipe mentioned that the District con-
sidered sites for a second park; would this location be as closely situated to a residential area as
the Cornerstone site. Why is Cornerstone Park the first choice for a skate park rather than
some other location; if there aren't as many residential uses around it why not put the skate
park at the second location. Ms. Loeser also discussed the impact of late night lighting; she
stated that she thinks 11 P. M. is a little late to have the lights on to accommodate skaters.
There will be light pollution and noise pollution from the use of the park, all of which will ad-
versely impact the residents along Hickory Street.
Mr. Douglas asked what problems Ms. Loeser might foresee with no attendant on-site. Ms.
Loeser suggested that skaters could be injured, get into fights, there could be drinking by skat-
ers , and possibly other undesirable activities. Ms. Loeser noted that skateboarding is a high
risk activity, and if there are injuries will the liability belong to the District or to the C ity . Ms.
Loeser also suggested that an attendant could determine if the skate park area was too crowded
at any one time, and control the use of the area.
• Karen Nyhop, 5318 South Foresthill Street , was sworn in. Ms. Nyhop testified that the pres-
ent atmosphere of the Park is family-oriented, and the unsupervised skate park is of concern to
her . Also the skate park and hockey rinks are in close proximity to the residential neighbor-
hoods , and she is concerned about the noise from these activities.
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Don Girard , 5301 South Hickory Street, was sworn in. Mr. Girard testified that he is a new
resident, having moved into his home over this past weekend. He is concerned about the
lighted parking lots. If there is nothing planned for the skating area, and it 's 8:30 to 9:00
P .M ., will the skating areas still be lighted? What size are the trees and shrubs that are pro-
posed for the landscaping. Mr. Girard stated that he has no problem with the concept of the
skate park and hockey rinks; his problem is with the organization and location of these pro-
posed activity centers, which is adjacent to the heaviest residential area. The lighting is of
major concern; he noted that the lighted parking lots will be right along the boundary of the
park close to his home. Mr. Girard asked what South Suburban plans to do with the existing
trees that are in this immediate area; will they be removed , or trimmed. What time will the
lights be turned off if nothing is planned for the skating areas .
Mr. Weber asked Mr . Girard if there are street lights along Prentice Avenue. He noted that
street lights are closer to residential uses and higher than the parking lot lights shown on the
plans . Mr. Girard stated there are no street lights along Prentice Avenue . He reiterated that
the skate park and hockey rinks are right next to the residential areas .
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Upon questioning, Mr. Girard acknowledged that he knew there was a Park across the street
when he purchased his property, but that it was an "open space park"; he thought it might have .-
some further development but did not realize that this would include skating areas, or that a
parking lot would be right across the street. Mr. Girard commented that there are a lot of soc-
cer fields, and suggested that the skate park and hockey rinks might be relocated.
Eddie Hix again addressed the Commission, and asked that they keep in mind the majority of
the skaters using the skate park will be kids; parents don 't want them out after 10 P.M.; a lot
of kids also work and they want to be home and in bed at a reasonable hour . Mr. Hix pointed
out that there is a curfew in Littleton: Friday and Saturday nights it is 12 Midnight; Sunday
through Thursday nights it is 11 :00 P.M.
John Spencer, 5250 South Huron Way #10-206 , was sworn in. Mr. Spencer testified that he
knows what kids are like , and pointed out that his condominium is right across the street from
the proposed skate park/hockey rinks . Mr. Spencer stated that there have been several break-
ins , cars have been "ripped off', and other forms of vandalism have occurred since the Park
has been open. Mr. Spencer emphasized the need for some kind of regular policing policy in
the Park, and echoed the sentiment that this has been a "family park", but predicted that the
skate park/hockey rink additions will make it more of a "teenage hang-out".
Mr. Douglas pointed out that there is a loitering ordinance in Englewood, as well as a noise
ordinance. If adjacent residents experience these problems, they should call the Englewood
Police to register complaints .
Mr . Spencer also discussed the lighting, noting that the condominiums on South Hickory are
three story ; even if there is berming or the lighting is directed downward , it will still impact
those residents whose units are on the second or third floors.
Kathy Breen, 5250 South Huron Way , #6-205 , was sworn in. Ms. Breen expressed concern
regarding increased traffic , and the congestion at the intersection of West Belleview Avenue
and South Hickory Street. Ms. Breen also suggested that youngsters will walk home from the
Park, and walk through private yards rather than follow sidewalks.
Mr. Douglas recalled Mr. Stipe to the podium , and asked that the issue of existing trees on the
Park site be addressed. Mr. Stipe stated that the District has removed a number of old Siberian
Elm trees , and there are quite a few Siberian Elms remaining. A lot of trees are under power
lines and Public Service Company periodically cuts them back, however the PSC employees
are not "tree surgeons " and the trees are not shaped or properly trimmed . He stated that the
District will try to preserve the trees that are healthy. Mr. Stipe stated that when the District
plants new trees , they do not plant under the power lines; also the trees will not be 20 feet in
height , but will be 2 " to 3 " caliper in size .
Mr. Stipe reiterated that the lights for the parking lots will be on until 11 P.M. when the Park
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closes. He pointed out that the original Planned Development approved in 1993 indicated a •
parking lot in the southeast comer, so this amendment is not imposing a new parking lot, just a
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reconfiguration. The lighting will be "down lighting", and that non-glare bulbs are available.
Mr. Stipe stated that he cannot speak to the specific type of lighting that will be used. He
stated that he does not anticipate that the lights on the hockey rinks and skate park will be on
every evening, the lights "could" be on until 11 P.M. Mr. Stipe addressed the_ safety issue,
noting that the District will fence the skate park for security and safety reasons. Park rangers
open and close the Park on a dawn to 11 P .M . schedule, and the District doesn't want anyone
wandering cross the park at 2 A.M. Mr. Stipe again described the skate park, noting that there
will be a "sunken bowl " with a concrete perimeter for spectators and skaters to descend from
into the bowl.
Mr . Welker inquired about the height of the parking lot lights. He asked if Mr. Stipe had no
specific information on the foot candle rating of these lights. Mr. Welker also asked if consid-
eration had been given to providing buffering of the parking area by construction of a berm or
fencing. Mr. Stipe stated there will be some berming, but the majority will use the natural
grade of the park. Mr. Welker asked why the proposed hockey rinks and skate park were not
placed to the north along Belleview Avenue. Mr. Stipe discussed the portion of the Park that
has already been developed, the intent to keep automobile traffic on the periphery of the Park,
and noted location of utility easements which also inhibit location of improvements. Taking all
facets into consideration, the southeast sector of the Park was yet undeveloped, and the hockey
rinks and skate park could be placed there without tearing out improvements or encroaching
into easements.
Ms. Cottle asked what other parks the District has considered for location of these sports ac-
tivities. Mr. Stipe stated that only Cornerstone Park has the space available to accommodate
these uses ; furthermore , the other sites the District has viewed would require land acquisition
as well as development costs.
Mr. Douglas asked what construction is currently occurring at Cornerstone Park. Mr. Stipe
stated that the "Tot-Lot " has just been completed, and they will begin work on some of the
shelters very soon. Fill dirt and top soil is being brought in; grading for the hockey rinks had
begun, but was stopped to accommodate the process to amend the PD.
Mr. Homer inquired who the contractor firm is that the District has hired. Mr. Stipe stated
that RBI has done some work. Mr. Homer asked if RBI has any contracts with the District
now. Mr. Stipe stated that they have some bids in, but all contractors have been notified they
will not be pursuing further construction until approval of the PD amendment is obtained.
Mr. Homer stated that it appears the primary change on the PD is from passive recreation to
active recreation venues. Mr. Stipe agreed.
Mr. Dehne again addressed the Commission, asking the height of fencing around the skate
park. Mr. Stipe responded that the District is not in the final design stages for the skate park;
he stated that in his opinion, the fence would be more than three feet in height, and probably
no more than six feet .
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Mr. Douglas asked if anyone else wished to address the Commission. No one indicated a de-
sire to speak.
Horner moved:
Cottle seconded: The Public Hearing on Case #PD-97-01 be closed.
AYES:
NAYS:
Cottle, Dummer, Garrett, Horner, Tobin, Weber, Welker, Douglas
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Sty es
The motion carried.
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A brief recess was declared. The meeting reconvened at 9:24 P.M., eight members of the
Commission present.
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Mr. Douglas asked the pleasure of the Commission.
Weber moved:
Tobin seconded: The Planning Commission recommend to City Council that amendment
of the Planned Development granted to South Suburban Park & Recrea-
tion District for development of Cornerstone Park be approved.
Mr. Welker stated that he understands why the District chose to construct the skate park and
hockey rinks in the southeast quadrant of the Park; he stated that he isn't 100% in agreement
with the location, but understands that the District did not want -and could not afford -to
change construction that is already completed. Mr. Welker stated that he thinks there should
be such a facility in the area for skaters to use. However, the District should take steps to
mitigate the impact on the surrounding residential area. Mr. Welker suggested that lights from
vehicles driven into or out of the parking lot will have a greater impact on residential uses than
the stationary lighting in the parking lots and on the skating areas, and that "cars have more
impact than people."
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Mr. Weber pointed out that the location of the parking lot was not changed. Mr. Welker
agreed the location was not changed, but the size has increased. He advocated use of berms
and fencing to shield adjacent residential areas from headlight intrusion; he stated that he
doesn't want to see six foot high fencing around the parking area, but does want to see some-
thing done to reduce or eliminate the impact of the headlights. Mr. Welker reiterated that, in
his opinion, the impact from the lighting in the skating area will not be that great. He ex-
pressed displeasure and concern that this will be an unsupervised activity. Ms. Tobin sug-
gested that this may change once the skate areas are open for use. Mr. Welker stated that he is •
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still concerned that they do not plan adult supervision up-front; he reiterated that he really be-
lieves such a facility is necessary, but the need for supervision should be addressed by the
District.
Discussion ensued. Mr . Dummer commented that the overall increase in parking spaces, and
the increase/reconfiguration of the southeast parking area, is not related per se to the skate ac-
tivity developments , but to overall use of the Park. He also suggested that programmed activi-
ties may be more adult-oriented than youngster-oriented.
Mr. Garrett addressed the lighting concerns, and questioned whether restrictions could be im-
posed that the lights could not be on in evenings if use of the skate areas was not scheduled or
programmed. If activities are not "scheduled" or "programmed" for the skate areas, this
might also reduce the number of vehicles that may be using the parking area in the evening.
Discussion ensued. Mr. Welker suggested this is one reason he wants to see the "down-
lighting" for the activity areas and parking lots. He suggested that the Commission consider
imposing a condition on the approval that the lighting be controlled; also could the Commis-
sion impose a condition that the Park will not be open after 10 P.M.
Assistant City Attorney Reid suggested that imposing hour restrictions is not a land-use issue,
but if the Commission felt they could tie the hour impositions to an impact reduction they
could consider it.
Ms. Cottle suggested that a six foot fence, with locking gates, be required around the skate
park. She suggested that South Suburban needs to consider some program to have a regular
patrol service through the Park. Assistant City Attorney Reid suggested that the fence re-
quirement is a safety/land use issue; however, patrols is a law enforcement issue and not
within the parameters of the Commission. Mr. Welker commented that he regards hours of
operation and security as part of land use considerations.
Ms. Tobin stated that she is very concerned about the safety of patrons using all Parks, and
emphasized the need for Parks to be patrolled. Ms. Tobin also noted that there are a number
of programs, activities, and areas for senior citizens, but very little in the way of activities for
youngsters in the eight to 14 age group. She stated there is a need for some activities for the
youngsters in this age group.
Mr. Welker agreed, but emphasized the need to take steps to protect the community surround-
ing the Park. He noted the concentration of park facilities in this immediate area -Belleview
Park in Englewood, Progress Park in Littleton, and Cornerstone Park in Englewood but devel-
oped by South Suburban -which makes this a wonderful recreation area. He stated he shares
the concern of an audience member regarding the intersection of West Belleview A venue and
South Hickory Street, and the need for traffic control at that intersection. South Windermere
Street is also a heavily used street, and traffic volume will increase.
Additional discussion ensued .
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Mr. Horner stated that he is a landscape architect, employed by RBI. As an employee of a
contractor doing work on the Park, he will not participate in discussion or decision regarding
the proposed amendment.
Ms. Cottle stated that she wanted to suggest provision for additional pedestrian traffic from the
southeast corner to the interior trail system. Mr. Welker agreed.
The Commission determined that the motion should be amended to include the following con-
dition and recommendations for the developer:
CONDITION 1: The skate park shall be surrounded by a minimum six-foot high fence, with
locking gates.
RECOMMENDATION 1. Improve and provide additional pedestrian access from the south-
east corner of the Park to the internal path system, with defined crosswalks and sidewalks.
RECOMMENDATION 2: Impact of vehicle headlights on surrounding residential uses shall
be mitigated by use of grading, berms, or other means to prevent intrusion of the headlights on
the residential uses.
RECOMMENDATION 3: An in-depth consideration of lighting specifications for the parking
lots and skating areas be undertaken, addressing issues such as height of standards, deflection
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of light rays downward, foot-candle rating of bulbs. A lighting plan encompassing this infor-•
mation, as a minimum, shall be prepared and presented to City Council for their consideration
at the time the amended PD is referred to Council.
Ms . Cottle asked if the Commission could require a traffic study. Ms. Reid pointed that the
Park is surrounded by streets that are in the City of Littleton, the City of Englewood, and a
State Highway. A coordinated traffic study may be desirable but might not be feasible in the
near future . Mr. Stitt stated that a traffic study was done in 1993 prior to initial consideration
of the Planned Development.
Mr. Weber and Ms. Tobin accepted the proposed amendments to the motion, which now
reads:
Weber moved:
Tobin seconded: The Planning Commission recommend to City Council that amendment
of the Planned Development granted to South Suburban Park & Recrea-
tion District for development of Cornerstone Park be approved with the
following condition, and recommendations for the developer:
CONDITION 1: The skate park shall be surrounded by a minimum six-
foot high fence, with locking gates .
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AYES:
NAYS:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
RECOMMENDATION 1. Improve and provide additional pedestrian
access from the southeast comer of the Park to the internal path system,
with defined crosswalks and sidewalks.
RECOMMENDATION 2: Impact of vehicle headlights on surrounding
residential uses shall be mitigated by use of grading, berms, or other
means to prevent intrusion of the headlights on the residential uses.
RECOMMENDATION 3: An in-depth consideration of lighting specifi-
cations for the parking lots and skating areas be undertaken, addressing
issues such as height of standards, deflection of light rays downward ,
foot-candle rating of bulbs. A lighting plan encompassing this informa-
tion, as a minimum, shall be prepared and presented to City Council for
their consideration at the time the amended PD is referred to Council.
Dummer , Garrett , Tobin , Weber , Welker , Cottle, Douglas
None
Homer
Sty es
The motion carried.
IV. FINDINGS OF FACT
3183 South Race Street
3084 West Radcliff Drive
4737 South Fox Street
1015 West Stanford Place
CU-97-03
cu 97-04
cu 97-05
cu 97-06
Mr. Douglas stated that the Findings of Fact on the four home-daycare cases were to be con-
sidered.
Homer moved:
Welker seconded: The Findings of Fact for Case #CU-97-03 , CU-97-04, CU-97-05 , and
CU-97-06 be approved as written.
AYES :
NAYS:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT :
Homer , Weber , Welker, Dummer, Douglas
None
Tobin , Cottle , Garrett
Sty es
The motion carried .
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V. PUBLIC FORUM.
Mr. Dehne stated he had a question on procedure that will be followed on the PD amendment.
Mr. Douglas noted that the Public Hearing is closed, but that Mr. Dehne may confer with As-
sistant City Attorney Reid at any time.
No one else addressed the commission.
VI. DIRECTOR'S CHOICE.
Mr. Stitt stated that no cases are scheduled for the meeting on August 19th; however, discus-
sion of the Planning Commissioner 's Handbook is on the agenda . He asked that members
please bring their copies of the Handbook to that meeting.
Mr. Stitt noted that Ms . Cottle , Mr. Douglas , Mr. Weber, and Mr. Welker attended and
graduated from the Lakewood Citizens Planning Academy in April . The City Council will
recognize these members for their participation at the City Council meeting on August 18 th ; the
aforecited members were asked to please attend the City Council meeting at 7 :30 P .M. that
evemng.
VII. COMMISSIONER'S CHOICE.
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Mr. Welker stated there is a group of citizens considering artwork which may be included in •
the light rail station; they are soliciting suggestions, and have $35 ,000 allocated to accomplish
this project. Mr. Welker noted that citizens who have participated on Englewood, Focusing on
Tomorrow (EFOT), the Planning Commission, and other groups are involved in the project.
The meeting adjourned .
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Gertrude G. Welty , Recording Secretary
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