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V. NEW BUSINESS.
A thank-you note from Mr. Rice to the Commission for the plant sent him during his illness
was read by the Commission.
Mr. Rice moved:
Mr. Hill seconded: The meeting be adjourned.
The motion carried unanimously, and the meeting was declared adjourned at 8:10 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Gertrude G. Welty
Recording Secretary
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I. CALL TO ORDER.
CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
January 23, 1964
The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order by Vice-
Chairman Touchton at 8:30 p.m.
Members present:
Members absent:
Carlson; Fullerton; Hill; Rice; Starklof f; Touchton
Romans, Ex-officio
None
Also present: Wayne Monson, Planning Aide
Mr. J. L. Parkinson
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
Fullerton moved:
Rice seconded: The Minutes of January 9, 1964 , be approved as presented.
The motion carried unanimously.
III. CHRYSLER CORPORATION ALLEY VACATION
5000 Block South
Acoma /Broadway
CASE #l-64A
Mr. Carpenter was present on behalf of the Chrysler Corporation. He reviewed the request for
the alley vacation and the proposed dedication of an alley west to Acoma. There are Mountain
States Telephone Company poles existing in the present alley, used by both the Telephone Company
and Public Service Company. No water or sewer mains are in existance in the alley. Mr.
Carpenter stated he had met with engineers from both Companies and they had agreed to the
vacation subject to the granting of easements to the Mountain States Telephone Company and
Public Service Company. At such time as the vacation is approved by Council, and Chrysler
Corporation purchases the property, said existing easements would then be deeded to Chrysler
Corporation by the Telephone Company and Public Service Company.
The following memorandum from Mr. Davies was read regarding the paving of the alley:
"TO: Dorothy Romans, Planning Director
FROM: W. 0. Davies, City Engineer DATE: January 17, 1964
SUBJECT: Alley Vacation
In reference to the alley vacation, 5000 block between Broadway and So. Acoma, the Engineering
Department sees no forseen difficulty with the vacation of approximately one-half the alley,
the Northerly portion, and a re-dedication of 31 feet in Lots 15 or 16 with the condition
that this alley be paved with concrete for a 20 foot width. It would not be necessary to
dedicate additional area for a 15 foot radius as this alley could hug the Northerly side and
give us a 15 fo ot radius within the 31 fo ot area. As the records show there is no water or
sewer in the alley, I see no forseen problem. There is no problem in drainage in this 31
foot area to be dedicated as the drainage would be west to Acoma with sufficient fall.
W.O. Davies
City Engineer
WOD:emm"
Mr. Parkinson asked if this referred only to the
of the existing alley that would not be vacated.
only for the proposed alley; that the portion of
in a paving district, possibly next year.
proposed alley to Acoma or f or the rest
Mr. Rice stated he understood it would be
the alley not vacated should be included
Mr. Starkloff asked if it was felt the vacation and dedication as proposed would clmge the
traffic pattern in this particular block.
Mr. Touchton stated that he knows of no studies that have been made of the area, but he personally
felt the c ongested situation would be partially relieved.
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Mr. Touchton read the following letter from the Telephone Company and memorandum from Mr.
Wallace :
"Planning and Traffic Department
City of Englewood
City Hall Annex
3000 South Bannock Street
Englewood, Colorado
Attention: Mrs. Dorothy Romans, Director
Re: Partial vacation of alley in Block 8, Harlem Second Addition,
Arapahoe County, Colorado
Gentlemen:
We have been advised by a representative of Chrysler Motors Corporation that a petition
has been filed requesting a partial vacation of the alley in Block 8, Harlem Second Addition ,
at the rear of Lots 1 through 12 and 37 through 48 , inclusive. Chrysler has solicited our
comments on this petition because of our existing easements in the alley.
Our engineer examined the site on January 17, 1964 , and is of the opinion that satisfactory
arrangements can be worked out for relocation of our utility lines with the cooperation of
Chrysler.
However, in view of the fact that Chrysler will not be the owner of the above described
lots until the alley vacation has been accomplished , we suggest that such vacation be made
subject to an express reservation of a right-of-way or easement in the alley for Mountain
States Telephone and Telegraph Company for existing utility lines . By specifically reserving
the easement in our name , we can subsequently release the easement to Chrysler at such time
as their purchase of the adjoining lots has been completed and arrangements have been made
for substitute easements, and our present easement in the alley will be protected pending
such arrangements.
This plan has the approval of Chrysler, and is, we believe , a satisfactory solution to all
concerned.
cc: Mr. W. V. Carpenter
Public Service Company of Colorado"
"TO: Mrs. Dorothy Romans
Very truly yours,
MOUNTAIN STATES TELEPHONE & TELEGRAPH COMPANY
By E. H. Peterson
Engineer
DATE: .January 22, 1964
FROM: Beryl A. Wallace, Chief Building Inspector
RE: Alley Vacation -South Broadway-Acoma -5000 Block
I have checked the area concerned and concur in the proposed vacation of the portion of the
Broadway-Acoma alley in the 5000 block South and the · dedication of the extension of the
alley to South Acoma Street as shown on the sketch of this · area.
It seems to me that it might be well to require paving of this alley as a condition to granting
the request.
The proposed change in my opinion would allow the land to be better developed without pre-
venting ingress and egress of the existing alley.
Sincerely,
Beryl A. Wallace
BAW /ss"
Mrs. Romans stated she had been contacted by Mr. Rust of Public Service Company in regard to
the proposed vacation. Mr . Rust stated a letter has been mailed to the Planning Office in
re g ard this, but it has not as yet been received. The Public Service Company has suggested
that a reservation be made for right-of-way or easement for Public Service Company f or
utility purposes similar to the Mountain States Telephone and Telegraph Company request.
SECRETARY'S NOTE: The fo l lowing letter was received from Mr. Rust, Public Service Company,
January 24, 1964:
"Planning and Traffic Department
City of Englewood
City Hall Annex
3000 South Bannock Street
Englewood, Colorado
Attention: Mrs. Dorothy Romans, Director
Gentlemen:
Re: Partial vacation o f alley in Block 8, Harlem Second Addition ,
Arapahoe County, Colorado
We have been advised by a representative of Chrysler Motors Corporation that a petition has
been filed requesting a partial vacation of the alley in Block 8 , Harlem Second Addition, at
the rear of Lots 1 through 12 and 37 through 48, inclusive. Chrysler has solicited our
comments on this petition because of our existing easement in the alley.
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Our engineers examined the site on January 17, 1964 and are of the opinion that satisfactory
arrangements can be worked out for relocation of our utility lines with the cooperation of
Chrysler.
However, in view of the fact that Chrysler will not be the owner of the above described lots
until the alley vacation has been accomplished, we suggest that such vacation be made subject
to an express reservation of a right-of-way or easement in the alley for Public Service Company
of Colorado for utility purposes. By specifically reserving the easement in our name, we can
subsequently release the easement to Chrysler at such time as their purchase of the adjoining
lots has been completed and arrangements have been made for substitute easements, and our
present easement in the alley will be protected pending such arrangements.
This plan has the approval of Chrysler, and is, we believe, a satisfactory solution to all
concerned.
Very truly yours,
PUBLIC SERVICE COMPANY OF COLORADO
By Harold H. Rust
cc: Mr. W. V. Carpenter
Mountain States Telephone and Telegraph Company"
Mrs. Romans reported the petition has been received from the Skelly Oil Company. Mr. Carpenter
has indicated he desires to withdraw the letter from the Skelly Oil Company approving the
partial vacation which was filed at the last meeting and submit the petition as a matter of
record.
Mrs. Romans stated a letter had been sent Mr. Kvacek informing him of the proposed vacation.
The following reply from Mr. Kvacek was read:
City of Englewood
Dept. of Planning & Traffic Reg.
D. J. Romans, Director
"MAJESTIC MOTORS
3995-3998 So. Broadway
Englewood, Colorado
January 17, 1964
Re: Your letter of January 14 to vacate alley in 5000 block between Broadway and Acoma.
Wish to thank you for opportunity to comment on this situation and will sincerely appreciate
any consideration that you give me in my stand.
First I wish to point out, if you make a careful study of this situation, you will note that
we are the ones that this will really affect, sort of makes our property an island except for
access onto Acoma Street. When we purchased the property, we checked the records at the
Court House and were cognizant of the fact that there was a dedicated alley even tho there
was an obstruction at far end, which we assumed would have to go some day in the future and
then there would be access to Grand Avenue.
As time passed, there was a Station built at Broadway and Belleview, then a car wash next to
it which was designed to handle its traffic from Broadway. However, since the present tennant
leased it, he has completely taken over the alley for his own use, now that pressure has in-
creased, he would like to feed in from Acoma Street also. This I can understand, however,
the access you show from Acoma will just add to fencing us in on our Acoma exit on heavy wash
days, the same problem the Service Station now faces on these days. It has been my contention
that people who own a business have to provide their own solutions. We already have very
conjestion in our block on Acoma because of parking from the apartments across the street
especially in the summer. There are a lot of small children also who run back and forth
across the street creating a traffic hazard enough without adding the confusion of cars
waiting to enter the wash rack from Acoma. I again state, the wash place was designed to
feed from Broadway and I do not want our property to pay the penalty for their blunder. If
the car wash is to be allowed to dominate both the alley and Acoma, there will be days when
we will have to call a cop to get off our own property, we have had no use of the alley since
he took over there.
Now, the people who purchased the Conrad property, knew before they bought that this alley
existed and when the building was removed, it would automatically open the alley thru to Grand
Avenue. I am not in favor of closing part of the alley for the benefit of them at the expense
of our property. If the city deems it a benefit to close the alley, lets close it all the
way, this I will go for, as I stated previously, we have had no use of it for a long time now.
I am looking into the future for our property, the same as the people who want the alley
partially closed. Lets leave it as it is or vacate it all the way, this puts us all on the
same footing, not just benefiting a few.
I understand why there is no objection to this change from the people who purchased the Conrad
property, they will have a Broadway access, Acoma access and completely dominate Grand Avenue.
And the gentleman who owns the 2 lots north of us, he thinks it will benefit his property.
And he pays practically no taxes. We own several parcels of property infue city and have and
still are paying quite a sizable tax package. I am also selfish, I wish to protect the value
of our property, we peineered that area.
I thank you for the privilege of stating our side of this matter and hope your committee will
give the problem a lot of study, this slack time of year it may not seem to create one but
take a look in the summer when the apartments are full and the increase of traffic problems.
Discussion followed.
Yours truly,
Frank Kvacek
5086 So. Acoma
Englewood, Colorado"
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Mr. Hill moved:
Mr. Fullerton seconded: The Planning Commission recommend to City Council the vacation of
the alley from Lots 1-12, 37-48, in Block 8, Harlem Second Addition
as requested, and that the proposed 31 foot dedication thr ough Lots
15 and 16 to Acoma Street be approved, subject to the recommendation
made by the City Engineer and Chief Building Inspector in regard to
paving the proposed 20 foot alley, and subject to recommendations
made by the Mountain States Telephone and Telegraph Company and the
Public Service Company in regard to easements for the utilities.
Further discussion f ollowed.
The motion carried unanimously.
IV. FOUT SUBDIVISION
Quincy & Jason
CASE #10 -63F
Mr. Monson, Planning Aide, reviewed the Preliminary Subdivision Plat for the Commission and
outlined the procedure to be followed by the Subdivider in submitting the Final Plat. The
Performance Bond required in §21.4-6 of the Municipal Code was discussed.
Mr. Touchton rea.d the following memorandum from Mr. Davies:
"TO: D. J. Romans, Planning Director DATE: January 23 , 1964
FROM: W. O. Davies, City Engineer
SUBJECT: Fout Subdivision Performance Bond
In re f erence to the Fout Subdivision, the complete paving of the subdivision, that is the
inter i or , would amount to a bond in the amount of $13,500.00 for curb-gutter and sidewalk
combination, or Hollywood type.
However, there is a little problem. If the subdivision were to be started prior to our Paving
District contract, they would be confronted with an additional $2600.00 for the curb and
gutter on Quincy. If they were to put in the complete curb and gutter, Quincy and the in-
terior of the subdivision, the total amount would then be $16,100.00. This becomes a little
involved and, therefore , should be an agreement worked out stating that the contractor would
install all the curb and gutter prior to our letting of a Paving District contract. The
curb and gutter on Quincy, therefore, would have to be complete and in place by April 4 if
the full amount were involved with the bond. However, if the subdivider wishes us to install
the curb and gutter on Quincy, we should be so advised and the lesser amount included in
the bond.
W.O. Davies
City Engineer
WOD:emm"
Mr. Monson stated replies had been received from all departments and agencies to which the
Plats were sent, and all replies have been fav orable. It is now a matter of approving the
Preliminary Plat.
Discussion ensued.
Mr. Rice moved:
Mr. Carlson seconded: The Preliminary Plat of the Fout Subdivision be approved.
The motion carried unanimously.
V. NEW BUSINESS .
A. Mr. Hill stated that he had declined reappointment to the Commission and his term would
end on February 1, 1964. Mr. Hill stated he had enjoyed working with the Planning Staff
and the other members of the Commission.
B.
Rice moved:
Fullerton seconded: The .following Resolution be made a matter of record, and a
c opy sent to Mr. Hill:
WHEREAS: Earl s. Hill has served the City as a member of the Board of Adjustment and
Appeals and the City Council for several years, and
WHEREAS: Mr. Hill has served as a member o f the Englewood P~anning and Zoning Com-
mission since January , 1957 and has devoted much of his time and energy to the program
of the Commission, therefore, be it
RESOLVED: That the Commission members commend Mr. Hill for the fine contribution he has
made to the citizens of the City o f Englewood by this service.
AYES: Carlson; Fullerton; Rice; Starkloff; Touchton
NAYS: None
ABSTAINING: Hill
CASE #14 -64
Mrs. Romans stated a .Mrs. Lori Celentano, 3827 South Delaware had contacted the Planning
Of fice in regard to a nursery school at the above address. Nursery schools are included
in the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance as a "Conditional Use" which must be approved by
the Commission.
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Discussion followed. Mr. Rice and Mr. Fullerton both stated they felt it would be wise to
notify residents surrounding the site of such proposed Conditional Use. Mrs. Romans pointed
out that no policy has been established for procedure on Conditional Uses, and asked what the
Commission felt would be an acceptable process.
Further discussion followed.
Mr. Fullerton moved:
Mr. Hill seconded: That on all requests for Conditional Uses, properties within a 100'
boundary to the proposed site shall be notified; approval of all parties
shall be considered for sanction of the Commission on the use proposed.
The motion carried unanimously.
C. The Planning Director stated that Mr. Rice had been appointed by the City Council to the
Parks and Recreation Commission, which also meets on Thursday evenings. There would
appear to be a conflict in the meeting nights of the two Commissions.
Discussion ensued.
Fullerton moved:
Starkloff seconded: Section III, Paragraph 3 of the Rules and Procedure Manual be amended to
read: "All regular meetings shall be held on the first Wednesday following
the regular Council meetings each month, and such meeting shall commence
at 8:00 p.m. The first meeting of the month shall be a "workshop" meeting,
and the second meeting shall be concerned with the business of the Planning
Commission. All regular meetings are open to the public. If the regular
meeting of the Planning Commission should fall on a legal holiday, the
Commission shall set another date for such meeting. All members of the
Commission shall be notified, either by telephone or in writing, of the
time and date of said meeting, and notice shall be given in the official
newspaper of the City of Englewood in time for at least one publication
of such change in date."
AYES: Carlson; Fullerton; Hill; Starkloff; Touchton
NAYS: None
3STAINING: Rice
The motion carried.
D.
E.
Members were urged to attend the annual Recreation Council Dinner meeting, February 6,
1964 at the Englewood High School. The new park proposal is to be explained.
The merits of meetings with the City Council, the Board of Adjustment and Appeals, the
Action Committee, Recreation Commission, Mr. Von Frellick, and ICRPC were discussed. It
was generally agreed these meetings would be informative and helpful for the more
recently appointed members of the Commission.
It was determined the first meeting of February should be a general background review of the
Department, procedures and problems facing the Department and Commission. The Action Committee
will be asked to attend the second meeting in February.
Rice moved:
Starkloff seconded: The meeting be adjourned.
The motion carried unanimously, and the meeting was declared adjourned at 10':45 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Gertrude G. Welty
Recording Secretary
MEMORANDUM TO THE ENGLEWOOD CITY COUNCIL REGARDING ACTION OR RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
DATE: January 23, 1964
SUBJECT: Alley Vacation.
RECOMMENDATION: The Planning Commission recommend to City Council the vacation of the
alley from Lots 1-12, 37-48, in Block 8, Harlem Second Addition as re-
quested, and that the proposed 31 foot dedication through Lots 15 and 16
to Acoma Street be approved, subject to the recommendation made by the
City Engineer and Chief Building Inspector in regard to paving the pro-
posed 20 foot alley, and subject to recommendations made by the Mountain
States Telephone and Telgraph Company and the Public Service Company in
regard to easements for the utilities.
Respectfully submitted,
By Order of the City Planning
and Zoning Commission.
Gertrude G. Welty
Recording Secretary
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