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V. GENERAL DISCUSSION.
Mrs. Romans stated the next regular meeting would normally be August 18, 1965; however, a
Public Hearing has been scheduled for August 25, 1965. It was not felt that a meeting on
August 18, 1965, would be necessary with the present schedule.
General discussions were held on the scheduled Public Hearing; the Charter committee, which
was recently appointed by the City Council to consider revision of the Chater; the recommended
removal of angle parking; and the implementation of the recommended one-way street pattern.
The meeting was declared adjourned at 11:25 P.M.
Gertrude G. Welty
Recording Secretary
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I. CALL TO ORDER.
CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
August 25, 1965
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at 8:05
P.M. by Chairman Carlson.
Members present: Woods, Touchton, Rice, Parkinson, Fullerton, Carlson
Romans, Ex-officio
Members absent: None
Also present: City Attorney Criswell; Planning Assistant Monson
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
Touchton moved:
Fullerton seconded: The Minutes of August 4, 1965, be approved as written.
The motion carried unanimously.
III. BEAU MONDE, INC. REZONING
KLZ Site R-1-A to R-3-B
Fullerton moved:
CASE #12-65A
June 28, 1965
Rice seconded: The Pub l ic Hearing on the rezoning of the KLZ Site from R-1-A to R-3-B
be opened.
The motion carried unanimously.
Mrs. Romans outlined the R-1-A and R-3-B zone districts for the benefit of the audience,
covering permitted uses, accessory uses, and restrictions in both districts. The applica-
tion, received July 28, 1965, requests "rezoning" from R-1-A to R-3-B; it was stated the
R-1-A designation is by District Court Order, and is on appeal to the Colorado State Supreme
Court. Supplementary Regulations in the 1963 Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance which cover
the R-3-B District were cited by Mrs. Romans, among them the sections on Storm Drainage and
off-street parking areas.
Mrs. Romans stated that Public No tice had been given in the official City newspaper, the
Englewood Herald, on August 9, 1965. The property was posted on August 9, 1965.
Mr. W. J. Carney
2338 E. Floyd Place -asked if the R-3-B District would permit a motel?
Mrs. Romans replied the R-3-B District includes motels as a permitted use.
Mr. Carney then asked if a restaurant could be an accessory use to a motel, and if this
restaurant would be issue d a liquor license? Mrs. Romans replied that a restaurant could
be an accessory use to the motel. The Director then explained that the 1963 Comprehensive
Zoning Ordinance is a "permissive" ordinance and that :it can be assumed that any use not
specifically mentioned as permitted within a Zone District would be excluded from that Zone
District; therefore, the matter of whether or not a liquor license could be issued would
have to be decided by the Chief Building Inspector, who enforces the zoning Ordinance, and
the City Council, which authorizes the issuance of liquor licenses?
Mr. W. R. Ross
3120 S. Race St. -asked if the ordinance specifically permitted or prohibited a liquor
license in R-3-B?
City Attorney Criswell reiterated that there was no specific prohibition; the 1963 Compre-
hensive Zoning Ordinance is the type wherein a use is considered to be prohibited unless
specifically mentioned in the Ordinance. He also pointed out that the Commission is an
advisory body to the City Council, and does not have enforcement powers. It was further
pointed out by Mr. Criswell and Mr. Carlson that the matter of issuance of a liquor license
would be of Council determination, and is not a matter which comes before the Planning Com-
mission.
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M. M. Summers
3140 S. Delaware -
Mr. Nachazel
stated that in his opinion, a liquor license could be issued to a
restaurant regardless of zone classification.
2061 E. Floyd Ave. -asked if filling stations could be an accessory use in this zone
classification?
Mrs. Romans replied they could not be an accessory use or a permitted use.
Mr. Clarence Daane
2099 E. Floyd Place -asked if the R-3-B classification would require and/or permit the
tearing down of existing homes to provide access to and from the
proposed development?
Mrs. Romans stated the dedication and/or vacation of streets was in no way contingent upon
the zone classification. Mr. Criswell stated the zoning would have nothing to do with a
street pattern. Mr. Daane stated he felt this proposed development would create a need for
additional access, and was concerned.
Mr. Dick Dittemore
2239 E. Floyd Place -stated he was legal counsel for Beau Monde, Inc. He gave a background
for the case. Mr. Dittemore discussed the proposed multi-family develop-
ment on the subject site; he also discussed a trip he had taken to view
condominium developments in other states, notably Phoenix, Arizona.
Mr. Dittemore stated the subject site was very adaptable to multi-
residential use, and could not be considered for single-family develop-
ment. Mr. Dittemore stated there were several points to be considered
by the developer and citizens in this instance:
1. It is necessary to have a product that can be merchandised --it is necessary to have
open space, etc. to make the "product" attractive to prospective purchasers.
2. The land must be fitted for development; he felt the subject site met all the require-
ments for an R-3-B classification as set forth in the Ordinance.
3. The Economic Impact of the type of development upon the local government. Mr. Dittemore
stated that in this instance, the cost would be very minor, and would bring people into
the area to shop; the development would also aid the school tax situation. He stated
that 2 /3 of the area laid within the Cherry Creek School District, Mr. Dittemore stated
that studies have shown there are ,92 students per unit in such multi-residential com-
plexes; however, he stated the residents in the proposed development would be retired
or semi-retired people.
4. Mr. Dittemore discussed the fact that zoning is occasionally granted on the basis of
architectural presentations. He stated he did not feel this basis gave "assurance" to
the citizens in a given area, and in this particular instance would tend to eliminate
the "competitive spirit" of the housing industry.
5. He stated that the reputation of the developer must be considered by the citizens; he
felt the developer must be given some lee-way in the proposed multi-residential develop-
ment and that Mr. Von Frellick would not do anything to damage his reputation as a
developer.
6. Mr. Dittemore pointed out that the right to use property by an owner is a Constitutional
right. Mr. Dittemore requested the Planning Commission to recommend the R-3-B zoning for
the KLZ Site to the City Council.
Mr. J. Lort
2449 S. Colorado Boulevard -stated he was an architect, and had worked in Colorado since
1948, and had worked in land planning since 1955, Mr. Lort
stated that he felt every piece of property should be used to
its ultimate capacity, and that the KLZ Site could be developed
Mr. James H. Johnson
very attractively in multi-residential classification. He urged
the Commission to favorably recommend the R-3-B for the KLZ
Site.
7675 W. 14th Avenue -stated he was an architect and has been in business in Colorado since
1951; he stated he had viewed the KLZ Site and feels it is a very
adaptable location for quality condominium development. It would
serve nicely, he felt, as a transition from the highway on the south
to the single-family homes on the north. He felt, also, that there
was a great need for condominium type development in the Cherry Hills
area. He asked that the Commission recommend the R-3-B zoning to City
Council.
Mr. Skinner
5115 E. 17th Ave. Parkway -said he felt there was a definite trend toward urbanization on
a national plane, and that at the present, 45% of all residential
projects started are multi-family residential areas. He felt
that within 10 years, 80 to 85% of all residential projects would be
multi-family. Mr. Skinner stated he felt this subject site should
and would be developed as a "prestige" multi-residential area.
He urged the approval of the R-3-B zoning.
Mr. Von Frellick stated they were attempting to accomplish a use for the land that would be
compatible with the surrounding areas; he felt the proposed multi-residential development
would be an asset not only to the subject area, but to the entire city. He stated that the
only way he could be assured of the ultimate use of the land was to develop it himself; he
pointed out the possibility of commercial zoning being imposed on the subject site, and
commented that while he still felt the KLZ Site was the best location for a shopping center,
he is committed to the New Englewood development on the City Park site, and two centers within
such a short distance would not be to the best interests of the developer of either site.
Mr. Von Frellick invited residents to inspect centers he has developed --Crossroads in
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Boulder , and the Villa Italia in Denver. He stated that the sale of liquor is not allowed
in any establishment in which he has an interest; he further stated that he would be willin
to impose such a stipulation on the land by deed restriction. Mr. Von Frellick also in-
dicated that restrictions would be imposed upon the land in the event some of the parcels
are sold, which would provide for compatible uses, architecture, etc. Mr. Von Frellick
stated the area would have to be developed with luxury type units , and that once the d e -
velopment was accomplished, it would become an asset to the community. He requested the
application for R-3-B zoning be recommended for approval to the City Council.
Mr . Jack Bury
2108 E. Floyd Place -stated he had lived in the area for 10 years, and his property is 1 /2
block f rom the KLZ Site. Mr. Bury stated he felt the property as it
exists is a public nuisance and nothing but a weed patch. He approved
of the R-3-B zoning request, and urged its approval by the City.
John Bilderbeck
3705 S. Bannock -asked about the proposed highway across the subject site which would
tie into Floyd Avenue.
Mr. Von Frellick stated it has been discussed; it would be a one-way traffic arterial
crossing the site.
Mrs . Betty Keena
3261 S. Humboldt -asked why the R-3-B was considered rather than the R-2-B district?
Mrs. Romans stated the R-2-B would permit only a two-family development on 50 frontage,
and would n t accommodate development of condominiums as is proposed. Also, this zone district
is not developing within the city where it is now applied.
Mr. Carney
2338 E. Floyd Place -asked how the property was zoned when purchased by Mr. Von Frellick?
Mr. Von Frellick replied the property was under County government at that time, and was con-
sidered to have a commercial usage inasmuch as the KLZ towers were located on the site.
Mr. Roosevelt
39 Sunset Drive -asked how the property was presently zoned?
Mr. Criswell, City Attorney, reviewed the history of the KLZ Site. Property, when annexed ,
was classified as "temporarily" R-1-A until and unless a different classification was im-
posed on the property. The District Court has ruled the B-3 zoning as imposed on the property
as improper; therefore, the property is "temporarily" classified as R-1-A by Court order
until the Colorado Supreme Court issues a decision. Discussion ensued.
Mrs. Susan Fonda
3500 S. Franklin -stated they purchased their property in 1950; at that time she con-
tacted Mr. Terry, and was told the site was zoned R-1-A and would not be
changed in the future.
Mr. Kennedy
3225 S. Race -asked why a zone change was needed? He stated he did not feel the area had
changed in the past 12 years, and did not warrant a change of zoning.
Mr. Fulton
2191 E. Floyd Ave. -asked if there were any definite plans for the development of the area?
Mr. Von Frellick stated that studies have been made of the area; there are no specific plans,
but they have been negotiating with several multi-residential builders. He again stated he
would impose the necessary control to ensure the development of the property into a fine
residential area.
Mr. Fullerton asked if he correctly understood that a Board of Architects from the area
residents would be appointed to supervise the development? Mr. Von Frellick replied that
it was his intention to have the development compatible with the area and to enhance the
area and the entire city; this could be aided by the appointment of a board of architects.
Mrs. Hartmuller
3201 S. Race -asked why the zone change request, if there were no specific plans for the
development of the Site?
Mr. Von Frellick commented it had been suggested that plans be drawn for the development prior
to the request for a zone change; he stated he had done so once at a cost of $643,000 and
would not do so again.
A recess of the hearing was called at 9:50 p.m.
The meeting was called to order at 10:00 p.m.
Mr. Carlson stated opponents would be heard at this time.
Mr. Carney
2338 E. Floyd Place -stated he did not feel the presentation made by the proponents was
relevant to the issue. He did not feel there had been any changes in
the area to warrant a change of zoning. He felt the purpose of the
Planning Commission was to encourage redevelopment of the older areas
in the City, and to preserve and develop newer single-family areas.
Mr. Blake Hiester
3600 S. Gilpin St. -stated he was Co-chairman of the Committee to preserve Zoning Integrity ,
and was speaking for a large number of people residing in Englewood and
Cherry Hills Village. He stated he has had experience in condominium
developments, and served on the committee charged with drafting the laws
presently governing the condominium developments within the State of
Colorado. He is also a legal representative of Hallcra f t , Inc., developers
of condominium establishments. He felt this rezoning request is
"speculative" rezoning, inasmuch as a definite plan has not been presented.
He stated he personally would not oppose the R-3-B zoning if he felt
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there was a definite plan for development o f the site which could be discussed. He commented
that it was customary to have specific plans for an area, then attempt to obtain proper zoning
and/or variances for the site. Mr. Hiester reiterated his statement this was "speculative
20ning" and as such, he would have to oppose it.
Mr. Richard Eason
3220 s. High St. -cited requirements for change of zone classification as set forth in the
1963 Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance. He felt none of these requirements
were met in this application; that it was based on the desire of Mr. Von
Frellick to eliminate possible "competition" with the New Englewood de-
velopment on the KLZ Site, and to yield a reasonable return on his in-
vestment in the land. He cited the decision of Judge Lee, and stated
that no change in the area had been found which justified a change of
zone classification. He felt the Commission would be in error if they
based a decision on only the arguments presented by the proponents.
Mr. Bilderbeck
3705 S. Bannock -
Mr. Harold Feder
448 S. Pontiac Way -
stated the Co mmiss i o n should look beyond the impact of the development
on the City of Englewood, and the immediate future. He stated the pro-
posed development would present access problems for a high-density area.
He stated the changes made by the City must serve wider purposes and in-
terests than that of one investor or developer. He felt the change is
asked in terms of dollars and cents, and pointed out that he felt the
Planning Commission is responsible to provide a future for young people;
he did not feel a change such as this would aid in the provision of
that future.
stated he owned property in the subject area, and represented citizens
residing within the area. He stated he was not protesting the zoning ,
that he felt a multiple unit development could be an asset. He was
protesting the statement that the property has been properly posted for
the required time, and presented photos he said were taken on the morning
of August 11 , 1965, which photos, in his opinion, show posting signs
installed on August 9, 1965, being replaced on the morning of August 11,
1965. Mr. Feder charged this constitutes a posting time of 14 days; not
the 15 day minimum as required by the Ordinance.
Mr. Feder suggested some things to be done which he felt would aid in the elimination of pro-
test to the proposal. (1) the presentation of a plat or plan for the projected land use and
development of the site; (2) record covenants restricting the use of the land for motel,
commercial uses, and liquor outlets.
Mr. Feder also s tated that he was told by the Planning Director the highway proposed to cross
the KLZ Site was originally a proposal by Mr. Von Frellick, not by the City as had been implied.
Mrs. Romans stated the signs were posted on August 9, 1965; changes were made in all but
three of the fourteen signs on August 10 , 1965. The 1963 Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance re-
quires "a sign" which is legible f rom the adjoining street right-of-way. Inasmuch as there
were eleven signs correctly posted on August 10, 1965, it was felt the area was adequately
posted.
Mr. John Welles
3602 S. Gilpin -stated he would not oppose the R-3-B zoning if he knew it would be properly
planned to be compatible with the area. He stated that if the area were to
be developed to accommodate the maxinum on the minimum, there could feasibly
be 5,000 apartment units on this site. He would not be in favor of such
development, and asked that the Commission approve zoning only if the pro-
posed development would be compatible with the surrounding areas .
Mr. M. M. Summers
3140 S. Delaware -
Mr. Martin Deuth
2201 East Floyd -
Mr. Fulton
stated he felt the zoning ordinance requirements meant just what they
state; that if zoning is granted, the developer can claim every benefit
of that zone district. He asked what status the R-3-B District would be,
if granted, if the Supreme Court decision grants B-3 zoning to the KLZ
Site? Mr. Summers stated he felt the City should take steps to develop
areas such as the subject site into single-family residential. He
pointed out there are very few areas remaining for such development , and
certainly a very few of the areas that could be developed for residential
purposes with $25 ,000 to $35,000 homes. He stated he felt the highest
and best use of this property would be in single-family homes.
summarized the requirements and restrictions of the R-3-B district ; he
stated there could be approximately 30 apartment units per acre, with
approximately 3-1/2 persons per unit. Mr. Deuth presented two tablets
which had been circulated among the audience indicating signatures of
those opposed to the R-3-B Zone classification, and those in favor of the
proposed c la ssification.
3191 E. Floyd Ave . -felt the applicant had not shown a reason to change the zone classifica-
tion from R-1-A to R-3-B.
Mr. Von Frellick stated he would establish recorded restrictions on the land, and would be
willing to have a board of three architects appointed to review the devel opment of the site.
He suggested that one architect be appointed by the City, one appointed by the citizens of
the area, and one appointed by Von Frellick Associates. He felt this would aid in assurance
that the area would be developed in high-quality residential use.
Discussion followed. Mr. Hiester asked if Mr. Von Frellick would be willing to discuss
development of the area with the citizens living in the surroundin g area? He pointed out
the Commission would not be bound by any agreement which might be reached between the oppo nents
and Mr. Von Frellick; he stated it might be an opportunity for the residents and Mr. Von
Frellick to discuss the proposed development and possibly come to an agreement. Further
discussion ensued.
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Touchton moved: The Hearing be continued at the next regular meeting on September 8,
1965.
There was no second to the motion; the motion was declared dead.
Rice moved:
Parkinson seconded: The Public Hearing be closed.
AYES:
NAYS:
Woods, Rice, Parkinson, Fullerton, Carlson
Touchton
The motion carried.
Fullerton moved:
Rice seconded: The matter be tabled for fu r ther study and consideration.
The motion carried unanimously.
V. FUTURE MEETINGS.
Mrs. Romans discussed a meeting to be held August 31, 1965, at 7:00 p.m, at the Inter-County
Regional Planning Commission offices, 2475 West 26th Avenue. This meeting is to review the
redevelopment of the Platte River Flood Plain area. She urged all members of the Commission
who could to attend this meeting. Discussion ensued.
It was moved and seconded to adjourn the meeting. The motion carried unanimously, and the
meeting was declared adjourned at 12 midnight.
Gertrude G. Welty
Recording Secretary
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I. CALL TO ORDER.
CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
EXECUTIVE SESSION
September 8, 1965
The Special Meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at 8:05
P.M. by Chairman Carlson.
Members present: Woods , Touchton, Rice, Fullerton, Carlson,
Romans, Ex-officio
Members absent: Parkinson
Also present: City Attorney Criswell
II. BEAU MONDE, INC.
KLZ Site
REZONING
R-1-A to
R-3-B
CASE #12-65B
August 25, 1965
July 28, 1965
Mrs. Romans stated that notice of postponement of the regular meeting from September 8 , 1965 ,
to September 15, 1965, had been given twice in the Englewood Herald.
Mrs. Romans said she had talked to Mr. Davis of Von Frellick Associates about the meeting
between Mr. Von Frellick's Company and representatives from the Northeast Englewood Citizens'
Committee and the Committee to Preserve Zoning Integrity, which was discussed by those per-
sons the night of the Public Hearing on the requested rezoning of the KLZ Site. Mr. Davis
told her that Mr. Dittemore and Mr. Hiester would discuss the agreement further on September
9, 1965, following which they would meet with Messrs. Feder, Deuth, and other residents and
property owners in the area, and that any agreement which is reached by the interested
parties will be presented to the Planning Commission. Mrs. Romans stated she has told Mr.
Davis that the Commission and the Council would not be bound by any agreement that might be
reached; however, they would certainly take such an agreement into consideration.
She stated she had discussed the City's request to consider the possiblity of making Highway
70 and Floyd Avenue a one-way cuplet with Mr. Merten of the State Highway Department. Mr.
Merten has indicated it could be as much as another month before a recommendation is made by
the Highway Department.
Mr. Parkinson entered and took his place on the Commission.
Mrs. Romans stated the tape recording of the Public Hearing was available if members wished
to hear any portion of the Hearing.
The Director reported she had been reviewing information on the subject site, which has
been in the City files since 1961. The land was used semi-agriculturally prior to its use
for the radio transmitting towers. This radio tower use would be permitted as a "special
exception" use in the present Arapahoe County "Open Zone District", and therefore, could be
presumed to have been non-conforming under a residential district zoning. Development of
the surrounding area was reviewed; Hampden Avenue is now State Highway #70, and projected as
a freeway. This six-lane highway has been developed on the south boundary of the subject