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City of Englewood, Colorado
ENGLEWOOD TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Minutes of April 10, 2003
The regular monthly meeting of the Englewood Transportation Advisory Committee was called to order
by Chairperson Anderson at 7:02 p.m. in the Community Room at Englewood Civic Center.
Members Present: David Anderson
Joe Christie
Gary Dounay
Betty Goosman
Ken Ross, Director of Public Works, ex officio
Members Absent: Barbara Hodge
Cinda Losee (Alternate Member)
A quorum was present.
Also Present:
Approval of Minutes
Ladd Vestry, Traffic Engineer
Wendy Weiman, Transportation Analyst
Linda Wilks, Recording Secretary
Officer Erik Lutz
Mike Flaherty, Assistant City Manager
Jeff Becker, Senior Manager of Service Development, RTD
Robert Rynerson, Senior Lead Service Planner Scheduler, RTD
See attached sign-in sheet
Following brief introductions of Committee Members and staff, Chairperson Anderson asked if there
were any additions or corrections to the minutes of March 13, 2003. There being none, a motion was made
and seconded to approve the minutes as presented. Motion passed.
New Business
Chairperson Anderson briefly explained ETAC's role as an advisory committee to City Council. Jeff
Becker and Robert Rynerson from RTD were present to speak to the ETAC group with respect to services
offered, bus scheduling, etc. Mr. Rynerson noted that the metro Denver area RTD system covers more
square miles than most transit systems in the United States, comparing Denver with the San Francisco
municipal railway. Referring to information contained in a packet of handouts, discussion ensued with
regard to the development of the metro transit system and the existing bus routes servicing Englewood,
which include the 0, 12, 27, 35, 51, and U. The 35 is a newly established route, running only on weekdays
along Hampden Ave. The U route, from the Englewood light rail station, services the Conifer and Pine
Junction areas along Hwy. 285.
Mr. Ryerson noted that, interestingly, RTD ridership is always affected by the state of the current
economy .
At Director Ross' inquiry, Mr. Rynerson explained that ridership and cost recovery play heavily in
whether or not a route is eliminated from the system. The Skyride to and from DIA is the most cost
effective route, while portions of the Rockies Ride had to be eliminated because sports fans defected when
the light rail C Line opened. Likewise, for some Bronco Rides. Typically, when considered for elimination, a
route ranks in the bottom 10% for cost recovery and ridership in a particular class of service.
At Committee Member Dounay's inquiry, Mr. Rynerson explained that the midday 0 Limited, beginning
at the Southglenn Mall, services South Broadway to the Denver Civic Center area, providing half-hourly rush
hour service ; however, the midday service was eliminated due to low ridership when the light rail opened .
Brief explanations were provided regard ing the AVA route for disabled passengers attending a sheltered
workshop program; and the Access a Ride which provides transportation, required by the Americans with
Disabilities Act, for special needs individuals, picking them up at their home and delivering them directly to
their destination, whether it be work, grocery, church , doctor, or local tavern.
At Committee Member Dounay's inquiry regarding RTD's five-year vision, Mr. Becker stated that RTD is
restructuring services and travel programs to meet the modern day needs of the public while , at the same
time, eliminating underused services. Mr. Becker explained the Call and Ride program which responds , in a
defined service area, to people calling the driver on his cell phone to be picked up, or they can meet the Call
and Ride van at an established pick up point to be taken to the destination of their choice within the defined
area. Mr. Rynerson stated that the Call and Ride program that was proposed for the Englewood area, in lieu
of the shuttle, was part of the Guide the Ride proposal that was turned down by the voters. Mr. Becker
stated that the goal for the number of riders for the Englewood shuttle was approximately 8-10 people per
hour.
Comm ittee Member Dounay observed a balancing act wherein, on one hand , you're trying to make bus
travel cost effective, but, as you begin cutting back on your schedule, you get to a point where its not
convenient for some people, and therefore you lose some ridership; however, if you can get more people
riding the bus, then you can provide more frequent rides and you pick up more r idership. Mr. Rynerson
responded by referring to an imag inary graphic chart, stating that "the convenience of the headway (time
between buses or trains) is determined by the length of the trip", i.e., people are tolerant of short waits for
an elevator which is a short trip, but no one is tolerant of waiting for longer trips. He further discussed
ridership as it compares to frequency of scheduling. Mr. Becker discussed the usefulness of wisely choosing
from the many transfer options that exist.
At Chairperson Anderson's inquiries regarding changes resulting from the recent public hearings, and
also his impressions of the Englewood community meeting held at Malley Center, Mr. Rynerson noted that,
after hearing citizen comments, he suggested to those in attendance that it appears there are issues
between neighbors in this community other than transit issues that can only be solved by the citizens
themselves, not by RTD. In answer to the community dispute over the Lincoln St/Sherman St. route
change, Mr. Rynerson reported that a "successful compromise" was, in fact, reached for the riders on Lincoln
St. and the residents on Sherman St.
Committee Member Dounay inquired about possible actions that can be taken by ETAC Members and
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other similar committees to assist RTD in achieving their visions. Mr. Becker stated that committee meetings •
such as this is a good beginning, and to also advise RTD of the wishes of committee members as well as the
community. Mr. Becker stated that complications have periodically arisen when RTD attempts to mesh their
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transit visions with the traffic or land use comprehensive development visions of various cities. He noted
that some cities, such as Englewood, do, in fact, contact RTD for input during the planning stages of some
development projects. Discussion ensued.
Mr. Rynerson advised that speed bumps and repetitive four-way stops along the roadways prevent
good bus service because of the impact on the neighborhoods as well as the bus passengers. However, bulb
outs and roundabouts are effective tactics for slowing traffic without interfering with bus services.
Committee Member Dounay stated that the light rail fare changes at the Englewood Station, and he has
observed passengers, who would normally walk to the Oxford Station, now driving to and parking at the
Englewood Station to avoid paying the higher fare, thus increasing the overcrowded parking situations in this
area. Mr. Dounay inquired if changing the cut off point would improve the parking situation at the
Englewood Station, and provide opportunity for more people to walk to the station instead of driving. Mr.
Rynerson responded that the line where fares change was purposely established to encourage people to use
the parking that was provided for riders at the Englewood Station. Mr. Becker added that establishing fares
is, conceptually, very difficult because of the perception of distortion no matter where the line is placed.
Discussion ensued regarding zone fares, which would require also changing the fares of bus routes; this will
be further evaluated by RTD board members in the future. Mr. Rynerson expects that Hampden Ave. will
also be the dividing line for fares on the east corridor light rail, because the bus network basically changes at
Hampden Ave.; also, the grid ceases to function south of Hampden Ave. where the express or limited lines
are primarily utilized. Discussion ensued.
Mr. Rynerson encouraged Members to attend upcoming RTD hearings in nearby communities to gather
information pertaining to planned transportation projects. Additionally, local government meetings are held
quarterly to discuss long range planning issues, FasTracks issues, etc.
In response to Director Ross' inquiry regarding the possibility of constructing additional parking for the
Englewood Station, Mr. Rynerson advised that FasTracks will provide additional parking at County Line Rd.,
and at Lucent Blvd. and C470. Mr. Becker suggested that increased parking facilities also increases the
amount of traffic and congestion in those communities. Mr. Ross noted that the City is striving to protect
the nearby businesses from overflow RTD parking.
Chairperson Anderson thanked Mr. Rynerson and Mr. Becker for their presentation.
Public Comment
No one was present to address the Committee.
Old Business
Following a brief explanation, Chairperson Anderson made a motion, seconded by Committee Member
Dounay, to table further discussion of the draft Strategic Plan until such time in the future that a majority
vote of the Committee revives the issue. Motion passed .
Director's Ch oice
• The Committee reviewed their handout pertaining to the proposed Bannock St. survey planned for
mailing to residents on April 14th. Director Ross noted he is scheduled to speak with City Council regarding
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this issue on May 5th, but, to give ETAC first opportunity to review the results, Mr. Ross advised he will
reschedule his presentation for May 12th. Mr. Ross reviewed the recent speed study conducted on the one-
way stretch of Bannock St. from Kenyon Ave. to Oxford Ave., noting that the average speed was 27 mph
and the ssth percentile speed was 30.4 mph, which verifies that most drivers are driving responsibly on this
roadway. Additionally, Mr. Ross noted that traffic will increase if the roadway is changed to two-way traffic.
Brief discussion ensued.
• Director Ross suggested postponing discussion of the Flashing Operation of Traffic Signals policy until
the meeting in May. Members concurred.
• Director Ross presented an update on the City's current budget circumstances. Recognizing the steady
decline in sales tax revenue, departmental budget adjustments of 5% were made mid-year 2002, saving the
City about $1.8 million. Several additional cuts were made in late 2002, including a hiring freeze, elimination
of the pay-for-performance program, fleet purchases pushed back until at least 2004, adjustment of public
way permit fees, and transfer of some capital funds to balance the general fund. Currently, employee
furloughs are being discussed. In spite of these cuts and adjustments, the City is currently $650,000 under
projection . And by 2004, Mr. Ross continued, the City expects to be another $2-3 million under projection.
Mr. Ross stated that layoffs may then be necessary to balance the budget in 2004, in which case a decrease
in City service levels will also be necessary, i.e., streets maintenance, grounds and parks maintenance,
elimination of some Safety Services and Recreation programs.
Mr. Ross stated that staff has discussed possible tax initiatives for City Council's consideration to be
placed on the November ballot. These types of sales tax increases will help build the general fund balance
so that layoffs can be avoided and current service levels maintained. These tax initiatives include:
../ Sales tax on services such as hair cuts, vehicle maintenance services, etc. while, at the same time,
lowering the sales tax on merchandise from 3.5% to 2.0%, thus balancing the revenue stream .
../ Employment Opportunity Tax, or "head tax". Businesses in the City of Englewood and people
working in Englewood would pay this tax. There was concern expressed that this measure could,
perhaps, cause smaller businesses to relocate out of Englewood .
../ Property tax increase.
Mr. Ross stated he will prepare a memo to City Council indicating the thoughts and concerns he has
received from ETAC Members. Committee Member Dounay opined that City Council should initiate a focal
group of citizens to discuss these and other budget cutting options, and to also support voter passage of a
proposed tax increase. Additionally, to improve the City's budget situation, Mr. Dounay suggested
converting Englewood's library to a county library. Mr. Dounay stated that he will email Mr. Ross with a list
of additional budget cutting options.
Discussion ensued regarding the pros and cons relating to the three tax increase options.
There was brief discussion regarding the sale and development of the "Old City Hall" site on Elati St.
Director Ross reminded Committee Members of the Englewood Jubilee II events that will be taking
place, beginning May 9th, to celebrate Englewood's 10oth birthday. A copy of the schedule of events was
distributed to Members.
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Chairperson's Choice
• Chairperson Anderson inquired about the Traffic initiative presentation to City Council. Director Ross
stated the presentation will be conducted this coming Monday night, 6:30 p.m., at the Cherrelyn Elementary
School.
• Mr. Anderson noted, that because of the discussion this evening with Mr. Rynerson and Mr. Becker,
preparing a letter to RTD, as previously discussed by ETAC, may not be necessary. Mr. Ross opined that a
verbal communication would be most effective.
• Mr. Anderson informed Committee Members that he should soon be hearing from Committee Member
Hodge regarding her possible resignation froin ETAC.
Committee Members' Choice
To Committee Member Goosman's inquiry, Director Ross explained that a City Council redistricting has
taken place to balance Englewood's population within each district. Mr. Ross stated he will provide Members
with a copy of the new Council Districts map.
Adjournment
Chairperson Anderson reminded Members that the next ETAC meeting will be held on Wednesday, May
ih, at Clayton Elementary School, beginning at 7:00 p.m. There being no further business, the meeting was
adjourned at 9:58 p.m.
Linda Wilks, Recording Secretary
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