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CODE ENFORCEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MEETING MINUTES
September 16, 1998
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The regular meeting of the Englewood Code Enforcement Advisory
Committee was called to order at 7:05 p.m. by Chair Allen in the Police/Fire
Training Room.
Roll Call
Present: Allen, Boyer, Fischback, Fout, Hansen, Johnson, Roth,
Stankorb, Warren
Ex-Officio: Garrett, Langon, Nabholz, Parsons, W icks
Absent: Tucker
Unexcused: Crawford
Visitors: Kelly, Garcin
Member Johnson advised the committee that Member Tucker had been laid
off and no longer had a connection with the City of Englewood. He would,
therefore, be resigning from the Code Enforcement Advisory Committee .
Approval of Minutes.
Langon noted that on page four, the last sentence in paragraph two should
read that she had asked if the by-laws had been completed and had been
advised that they had.
MEMBER STANKORB MOVED AND MEMBER BOYER SECONDED THAT THE
MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 19, 1998, CODE ENFORCEMENT ADVISORY
COMMITTEE BE APPROVED AS AMENDED.
Ayes: Allen, Boyer, Fischback, Fout, Hansen, Johnson, Roth,
Stankorb, Warren
Nays: None
Absent: Crawford
The motion carried.
Old business.
Allen asked if anyone had attended any events since the last meeting.
Councilperson Nabholz advised that she had attended a Block Captain's
meeting and .that it went well. There was discussion about the Olde Tyme
Fair, which went well and was enjoyable. Member Warren advised that she
had attended both days and that there needed to be more shade provided,
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i.e., more tents, as it was very hot. Parsons mention the Tent Talk on
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h and advised that it had been well attended and very
informative. She told the committee that Swedish-Columbia had hosted the
Tent Talk and that Police, Impact, Code Enforcement, and Council had been
well represented.
New business.
Allen asked the two guests to introduce themselves. Donna Kelly introduced
herself and her friend, Billy Garcin. She then advised the committee that she
had received "The Citizen" today, that in 18 months she had only received it
twice and felt that she and her neighbors were not being properly informed
of meetings in the city.
Member Hansen advised that she had read that gangs were moving out of
Denver into Aurora. She asked Lt. Wicks if gangs were moving into
Englewood. Wicks responded that unless some significant change has
occurred in his absence over the last five weeks, no they were not. Member
Fout advised that she had been advised by two police officers that there was
a gang moving through the city. Wicks clarified that there was gang activity
within the city due to a gang moving through the city, but that there were no
gangs, to his knowledge , actually establishing themselves in Englewood. He
noted that the police could not prove any specific gang activity and that
there was a difference between gang activity and tagging. There was then
further discussion and clarification about gangs.
Member Stankorb brought up that he had been at a city council meeting
where a citizen had commented that there had been vandalism in his
neighborhood and that he had seen more of the Code Enforcement vehicles
on the street than police vehicles. This is a positive comment about Code
Enforcement.
Warren shared w ith the committee that beginning in November the police
department would be adding two motorcycle officers who would be a part of
the Impact Team. They will focus entirely on traffic issues . Wicks told the
committee about the COOT Grant. Parsons told the committee that the
motorcycle officers would be working different shifts than normal police
officers to cover traffi c needs.
Stankorb inquired about the two properties that had been discussed at the
August meeting . Nabholz advised that the house on Dartmouth had been
put up for sale . Parsons advised that the other property had been cleaned up
considerably.
Stankorb asked about the st atus of the letter for selecting particularly nice
properties for recognition. Fout advised that that would be covered by the
Education Subcommittee report .
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Discussion of Denver's "Neighborhood Ambassador" program.
The general consensus of the committee was that they were leery of the
safety factor of regular citizens citing code violators. The committee as a
whole felt that they would feel comfortable giving out information but not
actually confronting violators. The committee felt that there were other
ways Englewood could deal with these issues, i.e. increase communication.
Guest Kelly asked to speak at this time and brought up several issues
concerning her situation and her feeling that the Code Enforcement
department was harassing her. Several attempts were made to try to explain
the purpose of the Code Enforcement Advisory Committee
Wicks explained to Kelly that the Education Subcommittee would be
addressing many of the issues that were of concern to her and asked that
she wait to comment until she had heard what they had to say.
Subcommittee reports.
Education Subcommittee: Fout summarized the purpose of the Education
Subcommittee and stressed the positive approach in dealing with citizens.
She brought up the "Blue Ribbon Project" which was the successful turn
around of an area or neighborhood and that this effort should be recognized.
She also discussed individual and block properties being recognized and
suggested that a letter from the mayor to such individuals be prepared. She
reiterated that the committee was looking at ways to publicize even small
ways to publicly recognize a good effort. Fout stated that she had called
Tom Munds of The Herald several times and that he had not returned her
calls. Various members of the committee advised her that Munds was out of
the country on vacation.
Fout then asked the committee to look at a draft of a one-page flyer
developed by A.J. and the other members of Code Enforcement. She
advised that she had contacted Ed McKee in the print shop about printing
the flyer and that he would need one week's notice for a big mailing. The
possibility of inserting the flyer in the water bills is being considered and
seems viable, however, this needs City Council approval. Several
suggestions were made regarding various areas of the flyer and how to make
it more readable. Fout asked that the committee members look at the flyer,
make revisions and corrections within ten-days, and fax or mail their
suggestions to her. She will then finalize the flyer and have it available at
the next meeting.
Fout stressed that the subcommittee will be using several methods to get the
information out to the public, i .e ., patrol cars, city sites, high schools, via
Nancy Peterson (Neighborhood Watch meetings), etc .
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Fout stated that the subcommittee wanted to stress that education is the
key and that a partnership between the Code Enforcement Advisory
Committee and Code Enforcement is imperative.
Graffiti Subcommittee : Member Roth requested comments on the revisions
to the proposed Graffiti ordinance that was sent out with the minutes. Roth
feels that the suggested ordinance be discussed with Judge Vince Atencio
before going too much further as the committee felt if the ordinance would
not be enforced as written, they should do something additional. After
meeting with Judge Atencio, the committee would ask Dan Brotzman to put
the Graffiti ordinance into a proper format that would be presentable for City
Council. After discussion by members of the committee as well as the
guests, it was determined that Roth should contact the art department at the
high school regarding art requirements as they pertain to the size of the
markers.
MEMBER STANKORB MOVED AND MEMBER BOYER SECONDED THAT THE
REVISED GRAFFITI ORDINANCE BE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE AFTER REVISIONS, IF NECESSARY, ARE MADE.
Ayes: Allen, Boyer, Fischback, Hansen, Johnson, Roth, Fout,
Stankorb, Warren
Nays: None
Absent: Crawford
Langon suggested that Brotzman be asked to attend the October meeting.
Allen requested that he be informed if Brotzman will be attending so that
Brotzman can be placed on the agenda.
Internal Operations Subcommittee: Member Johnson asked for clarification
of what they are supposed to be doing regarding trash. Johnson was
informed that when working on the Nuisance Abatement Ordinance no new
definition of trash be created. There are currently three definitions of trash
in various ordinances and they should all be uniform. Johnson advised the
committee that as she continues to heal from her surgery the subcommittee
will be meeting more frequently.
Allen asked if there were any other things in which the committee should
become involved. No one had any suggestions.
Fout advised that the public needed to be educated regarding winter issues"
and Code Enforcement. Langon advised that the deadline for the next
"Citizen" was the end of October. The Education Subcommittee and the
Code Enforcement department will work on information to submit.
Next meeting, date, location, and agenda.
Wednesday, October 21, 1998, 7:00 p.m., Police/Fire Training Room.
Agenda: 1) Possible deletion of section of Ordinance regarding hobby and
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derelict vehicles; 2) Report by Graffiti Subcommittee regarding final
ordinance; 3) Tom Munds. Allen advised that he would not be at the
October meeting . Stankorb will be the acting chair.
Adjournment.
MEMBER JOHNSON MOVED, AND MEMBER BOYER SECONDED, TO
ADJOURN THE MEETING.
Ayes:
Nays:
Absent :
Allen, Boyer, Fischback, Fout, Hansen, Johnson, Roth,
Stankorb, Warren
None
Crawford
The motion carried and the Code Enforcement Advisory Committee meeting
adjourned at 8:40 p.m .
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Neighborhood-cleanup posse rides herd
By Susan Greene
Denver Posl Staff Writer
or!, she is on a jihad to clean up her north-
west Denver neighborhood .
branches hanging too low over sidewalks.
Fran Frain is the kind of woman who
makes you want to weed.
"I know I can't go out there and act like
the ge stapo ," sairl the president of Sunny-
side United Neighhors Inc . "But it's impor-
tant to semi the message that we need to
take care of where we live ."
in June after neighborhood activists com-
plained the city's two, phone -book size vol-
umes of zoning codes weren't being en-
forced .
For homes with two or less violations,
ambassadors write up a citation -called
"A Neighborly Heminder" -then affix it
to residents' front doors. Although the no-
tices resemble traffic tickets, city officials
note they are not legally enforceable and
are simply educational tools urging citi-
zens to comply with city laws.
Maybe it's the disdain with which the
Sunnyside activist speaks about disorderly
neighborhoods, about overgrown lawns
and overflowing trash bins and vinyl La-Z-
Boys on front stoops.
Or maybe it's the "citizen advisory"
tickets she issues, warning neighbors that
they're violating Denver city codes .
Frain is among 200 "neighborhood am-
bassadors" cornhing city streets for code
violations. Motivated by a belief that or-
derliness is the supreme urban godliness,
the posse is intent on fighting all that's
overgrown, unsafe , rat-infested and down-
right shabby in Denver .
"If you don't get a law to the people, it
isn't worth the paper it's written on," said
Jlay Krupa, a neighborhood ambassador
who is also neighborhood coordinator for
the Barnum Improvement Council Inc.
After about an hour of training, volun-
teers are . unleashed with burnt-orange
folders filled with citations for infractions
ranging from i~legal dumping to parking
on unpaved surfaces, from political signs
perched too close to the curb to tree
If people don't take action, then the am-
bassadors report them to city inspectors,
who could issue tickets.
By her own account, Frain's approach
falls somewhere between friendly advice
and outright nudging . Whatever her meth-
"At least it shows there's somebody in
the neighborhood who cares," Frain said.
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Recommendations for Graffiti Ordinance from Code
Enforcement Advisory Committee
This version contains amendments and further comments
based on the response from the Englewood City Attorney. After
further thought and discussion we feel that the ideas we are
presenting here should be ready for codification. We request
that the City Attorney review this and present the ideas
expressed here in code form, for further study by the Code
Enforcement Advisory Committee _
Current Englewood Code
Does little to discourage taggers
Taggers must be caught in the act, or confess before any legal
action can occur
Penalties are often not much more than a slap on the wrist
· Minor offenders cannot be sentenced to jail, and face
a fine limited to $500.00
Graffiti victims face harsher pen_alties than the taggers
Currently, victims are required to clean up the graffiti within 24
hours
Not realistic -Police often take longer than that to
respond to calls on graffiti
Victims could face up to 180 days in jail and a $500.00 fine if
they don 't clean up the graffiti
Other observations
Taggers are frequently minors
Tagging is often a competition amongst groups or gangs
Some people consider graffiti an art form
There are publications which offer instruction in this "art form"
Denver is forming a new Graffiti Task Force to study the problem
This could impact Englewood, especially if stronger laws there
push the taggers outside the Denver city limits.
Solutions
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Graffiti Prohibition
Cornrnont 'i/26/9<(. Since the current code shown below seems to coverall
the bases, it would probably be simpler to continue using the existing code, rather
than writing sometlUng new.
Engle'NOod Municipal Code 7-6F-11 reads:
Graffiti Prohibited. It shall be unlawful for any
person to paint, spray paint, draw, write, etch, carve
or by any similar method whatsoever deface any
public or private property except with written
permission of the owner of private property, the City
Manager, in the case of City property, or the
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supervising officer of any other public property. (Ord
2 Series 1992)
Make it easier to apprehend taggers
Make possession of graffiti materials an offense
eo1n1nent Ff/26/9Ff: We feel that this is a necessary part of the proposed
orriinance. Actually, the definitions in the section concerning minon is quite
specific. T1ut section on adults, as presented, is more broad buJ since it is drown
directly from Qty of Denver Code, would be consistent across city boundarks.
(Or if truly problematic, it could be changed to read the same as the section on
minors.)
T1ut dejinilion of broad tipped marking pens, excludes the tnarbn that would
normally be found in the possession of school children. The "1/ass etching, or
cutting" tools or instruments are specific enough to preclruh coins ( we know of
no U.S. coins sufficiently hard lo etch glass). The idea of the police harassing
sclrool childnn on their way lo school seems to be over reaction; a substantial
percentage of the high school students violate the tobacco prohibition, and we
don't see the police parhd in front of the high school passing out citations.
Ll.7cewise the prohibition of possession of graffili materials by an adult would
likely caUH no more problems than the prohibition of concealed weapons.
Source: Denver Code Section 34-66, Section 38-102
POSSESSION OF GRAFFITI MATERIALS BY
MINORS PROHIBITED.
a) It shall be unlawful for any person under the
age of eighteen (18) years of age to possess any
can of spray paint, broad tipped marker pen, glass
cutting tool, or glass etching tool or instrument.
b) A broad tipped marker pen is one with a tip that
exceeds one-quarter (1/4) inch in width.
c) It shall be an affirmative defense to charges
under this section that the person possessing the
materials was:
Within their home;
At their place of employment;
Upon real property with permission from the
owner, occupant, or person having lawful control
of such property.
POSSESSION OF GRAFFITI MATERIALS BY
ADULTS PROHIBITED
a) It shall be unlawful for any person to possess
graffiti materials.
b) A person possesses graffiti materials when they
possess any paint, marking pen, materials,
instrument or other article adapted, designed or
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commonly used for committing or facilitating the
comm ission of an offense involving damaging,
defacing, or destroying public or private property,
and they intend to the use the thing possessed in
the commissio n of such offense , or know that
some other perso n intends to use the thing
possessed in the commission of such offense, or
know that some other person intends to use the
th ing possessed in the commission of such an
offense.
c) Defacing as used in subsect ion (b) above shall
include, but not limited to, the writing, painting,
inscribing, drawing, scratching or scribbling upon
any wall or surface owned, operated or
maintained by any person or the city unless the
c ity or property owner grants written perm iss ion
for such writing, painting , inscrib ing, drawing,
scratching or scribbling .
Make it more d ifficult for minors to obtain materials that could
be used for tagg i ng .
Englewood Municipal Code 6-1-9 titled 11 Toxic
Vapors" possibly deals with spray paint Issue, but it
probably needs to be strengthened or clarified .
Comment ~ 12 619~: This is an informational point, we don't feel we
have the expertise required to modify the ''Toxic Vapors• code.
Recommended change. Source: Original, Various
eommo11f: fj{'/26/9~ Granted that it would be necessary to
educa te the businesses about this issue, but there are many other
iss ues that require the St11111! sort of communication. The concept
of "otherwise transfer· is inJenrionally broad, covering
distribution fJy gift as well as theft . This would probably require
1111!rchanJs to display these items in areas that are not self-
service.
Since publications are available even at the Englewood Public
Library, the prohibition of distribution of publications would
probably be impractical so we have dropped that .section .
SALE OF GRAFFITI MATERIALS TO MINORS
a) It shall be unlawful to sell or otherwise transfer
any can of spray paint, broad tipped marker pen,
glass cutting tool , or glass etching tool or
instrument to any person under the age of
eighteen (18) years
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b) A broad tipped marker pen is one with at tip
that exceeds one-quarter (1/4) inch in width.
Define Parental Responsibility
Source: Irving, TX Section 57-8
A parent or guardian of a minor commits an offense if
he or she knowingly permits, or by insufficient control
allows, the minor to create graffiti on tangible
property in the city without the property owner's
consent.
Make stiffer penalties for taggers spelled out in the code,
Including mandatory restitution. Source: Original
Cornrnent <l/26/9<l: 1he General Penalty probably is sufficient, however,
we would like to see greater emphasis placed on parental respon.sibility, so
additional penalties are specified.
PENAL TY FOR DEFACING PUBLIC OR PRIVATE PROPERTY
BY PLACING GRAFFITI OR GANG GRAFFITI ON SAID
PROPERTY BY A MINOR
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The parents or legal guardians of said minor shall be ordered to
do community service in an equal amount of hours and
simultaneously with the minor. Said minors who have not
previously done so or who are first time offenders shall also be
required to attend a SUCCESS program class .
Multiple time offenders may also be ordered to undergo medical
or psychiatric treatment, or treatment for drug addiction or
alcoholism;
PENAL TY FOR DEFACING PUBLIC OR PRIVATE PROPERTY
BY PLACING GRAFFITI OR GANG GRAFFITI ON SAID
PROERTTY BY AN ADULT
Cornrn@nt <l/'l.6/9'l: In addition to The General, we would like[u11her
emphasis placed on the psychological issUL .
Source: Chicago Ridge, IL and Various Others
Multiple time offenders shall also be ordered to undergo
psychological/psychiatric treatment.
Cornhleht 'l /'l. 6/9'l: The General pelllllly would probably be sufficient for
poJStssion of graffiti materials.
PENAL TIES FOR POSSESSION OF GRAFFITI MATERIALS
BY A MINOR
PENALTY FOR POSSESSION OF GRAFFITI MATERIALS BY
AN ADULT
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Lengthen time frame for clean up
Based on recommendations made by the Code Enforcement
Advisory Committee concerning the Nuisance Ordinance at the
May meeting, abatement could probably be handled by the
standard Nuisance Abatement procedures.
111111/ comm1111k f'/26~f': Our intent is to strengthen as well as broaden
the graffiti ordinances. Pan of the strengthening involves putting greater
emphasis parental, responsibility for offenses committed l1y minors.
Our objective in requiring parents to serve community service time along
with the offending minor is to increase the parents awareness in their
responsibility to teach their children to be good citizens. This would have a
positive effect on the community as a whole. At the same time it would serve
as a dete"ent for the minor (as anyone with teenagers is aware, they hate
being seen in public with their parents) .
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