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Englewood Parks and Recreation Commission
Minutes of November 10, 1988
The regular monthly meeting of the Englewood Parks and Recreation
Commission was called to order at 5:35 p.m. by Chairman Neyer at the Englewood
Municipal Golf Course Clubhouse.
Members present: Armstrong, Braucht, Clayton, Gomes, Hathaway, Kozacek,
Neyer, Ramelow, Kuhn, ex officio
Members absent: Wiggins
Also present: Jim Kavinsky, Parks Superintendent
LuAnne Mickelson, Recreation Supervisor
Ken Ballard, Recreation Supervisor
Jerrell Black, Recreation Supervisor
Chairman Neyer introduced and welcomed Raymond Ramelow to the Commission
as the new Youth Member replacing Robyn Vanderleest.
Chairman Neyer asked if
minutes of October 13, 1988.
that the minutes be approved
there were any additions or corrections to the
There were none . A motion was made and seconded
as presented. The motion passed unanimously.
Director Kuhn stated that Recreation Supervisors Mickelson, Ballard and
Black are present tonight to discuss proposed recreation fees for 1989. Kuhn
stated that a recreation program fee survey has been conducted which City
Council requests be done annually. Recreation Supervisor Ballard stated that
the Recreation Center admission fees have had no increase since the center
opened in March of 1985 with the exception of aquatics admission . Staff is
recommending admission fee increases of 25 cents.
Discussion ensued, which included comparisons of metro area program fees,
sports program fees, a decrease in racquetball play, charging fees that the
market will bear even though the fee may be higher than the recovery
percentage required by Council. Commissioner Armstrong made a motion,
seconded by Youth Commissioner Hathaway, to accept the program fees as
outlined by Recreation Supervisor Ballard but to change the 25 cents proposed
increase to a 50 cents increase for center admissions, which will also include
adjusting annual pass fees and coupon punch card fees . The motion passed
unanimously.
Recreation Supervisor Black discussed program fees in the areas of youth
programs, cultural programs and aquatic programs. There was discussion
regarding the difference in fees charged for cultural programs at Miller
Building vs . Malley cultural programs. Recreation Supervisor Mickelson stated
that Malley classes recover 100% of direct program costs and charge
participants for firings and supplies as is done with the regular cultural
programs. It was suggested that Recreation Supervisors Black and Mickelson
consider possibilities for making Malley cultural fees and regular cultural
fees more paritive .
There was considerable discussion regarding the uses of the Miller
Building and Council's direction to close the facility permanently and
eliminating the programs that are located there . Commissioner Kozacek made a
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motion, seconded by Commissioner Gomes, to recommend to City Council that
their policy to close Miller Building be reconsidered with the option of
trying to recover the costs by adding additional classes or other means of
cost recovery. The motion passed unanimously .
Recreation Supervisor Black stated that in the event that Miller Building
remains open, one means of cost recovery that he is considering is to rent
space at Miller to private groups as much as possible.
Director Kuhn stated that the Traffic Engineers occupy a portion of
Miller Building, and utility costs for that division have been charged to the
Parks and Recreation Department. Kuhn stated that he is presently trying to
get a reading on utility costs for the office space and traffic controls
utilized by the Traffic Division.
Following further discussion, Commissioner Armstrong made a motion,
seconded by Youth Commissioner Hathaway, to accept and recommend to City
Council for approval the program fee increases for aquatics, youth and
cultural programs as presented by Recreation Supervisor Black in his memo to
Leon Kuhn dated October 26, 1988. The motion passed unanimously.
Recreation Supervisor Mickelson reviewed the Malley Center fees and
charges survey and program fees recommended by staff for 1989. Mickelson
stated that all Malley programs recover 100% of direct costs with the
exception of the Limitless Fitness class and the volleyball league team fees.
Mickelson stated that the league team fees are being investigated for possible
cost sharing with other senior recreation centers. Mickelson stated that
Malley Center is the only senior center that does not charge a higher fee for
non-residents. Commissioner Kozacek made a motion, seconded by Commissioner
Gomes, to accept staff's recommendations for the Malley Senior Center program
fees for 1989 and that there will be no change in the present fee structure
regarding residents and non-residents. The motion passed unanimously.
Discussion ensued which included possibilities of charging a non-resident
fee at Malley Center for non-residents enrolling in classes and programs.
Commissioner Armstrong suggested that it might be appropriate to clarify
for the program participants, perhaps in the programs brochures, the hidden
and additional costs when program fees are determined so that participants
will understand the difference in fees between regular recreation programs and
similar Malley programs. Armstrong suggested that it may become necessary to
restructure programs in some form in order to bring the fees more in line with
one another.
There was discussion with regard to possibilities of moving Sinclair Pool
swimming lessons to the Recreation Center in the Summer.
Parks Supt. Kavinsky reviewed current fees and charges for use of the
Detention Pond and made recommendations to increase fees for the Englewood
Soccer Association from $2/game to $3/game, and for the Englewood Redbirds
Baseball team from $10/game to $25/game. For park shelter fees, Kavinsky
recommended increasing the fee for groups of 100 or more to $50 for a 5 hr .
reservation and $7 for each additional hour. Fees for groups of under 100
will be charged the current fee of $30/5 hr. reservation and $5 for each
additional hour. Youth Commissioner Hathaway made a motion, seconded by Youth
Commissioner Ramelow, to accept the park shelter fees and Detention Pond
rental fees as presented by Parks Supt. Kavinsky. The motion passed
unanimously.
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Director Kuhn stated that staff is recommending that there be no golf fee
increases for 1989 since the current fees are competitive with other metro
area courses. Following discussion, Commissioner Kozacek made a motion,
seconded by Youth Commissioner Hathaway, to accept staff's recommendation that
there be no increases in golf fees for 1989. The motion passed unanimously .
Recreation Supervisor Black reported that on October 29 attendance at the
"Fall Fling" dance for middle school students was more diversified than at the
"Spring Shuffle" with 44 students from Flood, 14 from Sinclair, 10 from St.
Louis and 1 from Jefferson County. Commissioner Clayton suggested charging a
nominal admission fee to the dance with separate charges for food instead of
one higher fee which includes food.
Black reported that the Halloween Carnival, which is a new program this
year for ages 1-5, was very successful with 75 kids plus parents attending.
There were 12 booths, including a fishing booth, cake walk and sponge throw.
He stated the program will be offered again next year and the age limit will
be for ages 1-6. Black thanked the Malley staff and the Recreation Center
staff for manning the booths and helping in other areas.
Director Kuhn stated that he will present at the next meeting his
recommendations for guidelines for commercial advertising.
Parks Supt. Kavinsky reported on alternate park budget cuts ($10,000) in
lieu of fertilizer budget cuts. He stated that Agricultural Supplies were
reduced by $1,500; Other Miscellaneous Supplies by $2,000; Building Materials
by $1,500; Electrical Supplies by $1,200; Plumbing Supplies by $800;
Irrigation Supplies by $1,500; Other Repair & Maintenance Supplies by $1,500 .
Kavinsky stated that new programs with regard to maintenance are being
implemented and can accommodate the budget reductions in these areas .
Commissioner Clayton recommended using "Xeriscape" for landscaping of the
new downtown parking area on Acoma . Discussion ensued.
Director Kuhn reported that the appraisal for the land North of Malley
Center has been received from Intermountain Appraisal Services. He stated
that the site is 9,375 sq. ft. and the appraised value is $90,000, or
$9.50/sq. ft. He stated that the Malley Trust Fund Committee will discuss the
appraisal at their meeting next week.
Director Kuhn stated that he and other members of staff have received a
number of complaints with regard to the closing of the Miller Building and
have been blamed for the decision of closing Miller. He stated that the fact
is that staff included the recommendation in a prepared list of 40 or 50 items
that would possibly have to be eliminated in the event that there was a 1/2
cent reduction in sales tax. He stated that staff would not have determined
the closure of Miller Building as priority should a cut become necessary due
to the fact that the programs at Miller are among the highest in revenue
recovery.
Considerable discussion ensued, which included the financial state of the
City, the difficulty that Council faces in making budget cut decisions, future
program fee increases, money that the City could possibly receive as a result
of the cultural arts amendment passing, etc .
Commissioner Braucht stated that the Englewood High School cross country
team has asked to use the Englewood Golf Course for an invitational cross
country meet in October (next year). This would take place at a non-golfing
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'time and the greens would be corded off to prevent damage to the course.
Director Kuhn stated he will check with the golf course manager and
investigate the possibilities .
Commissioner Kozacek discussed advantages to the City in locating a water
world facility in the Englewood area, possibly at Centennial Park or in the
area of the South Drive-In location at Belleview and Windermere. There was
also discussion of a fishing sanctuary at McClellan Reservoir.
Commissioner Gomes stated he received a letter from former Mayor Otis
thanking the Commission for honoring him with a lifetime golf pass. Chairman
Neyer received a similar letter from former Commission Chairman Poole.
Youth Commissioner Hathaway requested that he and other Commission
members receive a copy of the policy for renting the Recreation Center
facility.
There was some discussion regarding possible use of the Recreation Center
after hours by unauthorized individuals. Director Kuhn requested anyone
observing such activity to call him at home immediately.
Commissioner Clayton informed the Commission that the new golf course
concessionaire is currently working under an interim agreement because the
liquor license application has been delayed.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:15 p.m .
Linda Wilks, Recording Secretary
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