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City of Englew ood
PARKS AND RECREATI ON COMMISSION
Minutes of April 9, 2009
CALL TO ORDER
The regular monthly meeting of the Englewood Parks and Recreation Commission was called to
order at 5:38pm by Vice Chairperson Waldman at the Broken Tee Grill at the Broken Tee Golf
Course, 2101 W . Oxford A venue .
Present: Mitch Waldman , Vice Chairperson
Carolyn Armstrong, Commission Member
Bob McCaslin, City Council Liaison
Jim Woodward, Commission Member
Karen Miller, Englewood Schools Liaison (arrived at 5:45pm)
Jerrell Black, ex officio
Absent: Austin Gomes , Chairperson
Douglas Garrett, Commission Member
Christina Kruk , Youth Commission Member
Rebecca Laughlin, Youth Commission Member
Donna Schnitzer, Cultural Arts Commission Liaison
Also Present: Bob Spada, Golf Operations Manager
Dave Lee, Manager of Open Space
Gary Hultberg, Recreation Manager
Wayne Niles, Golf Course Supervisor
Scott Rhodes , Program Administrator, Broken Tee Golf Course (arrived at 5 :40pm)
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Vice Chairperson \Valdman asked if there were any changes or corrections to the
minutes of March 12, 2009. It was noted that Commission Member Miller's name
was left off for those commission members present for the March 12 meeting. The
minutes were approved as amended.
III. SCHEDULED PUBLIC COMMENT
There were no guests present for Scheduled Public Comment.
IV. UNSCHEDULED PUBLIC COMMENT
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There were no guests present for Unscheduled Public Comment.
LI ONS CLUB TRAIN
Discussion turned to the Lions Club Train. Director Black informed the Commission that the
City of Englewood received a letter from the Englewood Lions Club informing the City that the
train is for sale/donation to the City for $1 .00. Black reminded the Commission that the City
was in the process of submitting a proposal to the Lions Club for operation of the train for the
2009 summer. Black reported that staff will be meeting with City Council Monday evening to
get some direction from City Council in regard to the direction the City wants to take.
Commission members were told that staff has had a railroad specialist inspect the tracks, trestle •
and train so that the City will have an idea in re gard to short term and lon g term maintenance
costs. Black noted that the Lions Club had the train engine and trestle rebuilt a few years ago.
Commission Member Woodward , who also serves on the Board of Directors for the Englewood
Lion's Club , spoke in regard to the letter the City had received and the reason behind the $1.00
sale/donation. Woodward discussed the identification of the Englewood Lions Club remaining
on the train. Di scussion followed.
Commission Member Annstrong asked ifthere have been any accidents involving the train over
the course of the years. Recreation Manager Hultberg stated that there have been no accidents in
relation to the train. Armstrong asked if the City of Englewood's insurance will cover the train .
Black replied yes. Armstrong asked in regard to qualifications the train conductor will need.
Hultberg stated there are no licenses or requirements that the train conductor will need at this
time but that the City anticipates that it will be coming down the line since the train is
considered an amusement ride . Bl ack iterated that the City wants the operation of the train to
remain the same as it has over the past sev eral years and therefore has no plans to make changes .
Black discussed combining the operation of the train with the farm operations in the future that
will probably help to reduce some of the costs associated with operation of the train .
Armstrong asked in regard to the scenario that if in three to four years, the City decides it is no
longer interested in operating the train, does the Lions Club retain the first right of refusal.
Woodward stated no , that the Lions Club would not be interested in taking the operation of the •
train back o ver. Armstrong asked Woodward how selling the train will impact the Lions Club
using the train as a source ofrevenue for its annual scholarship program. Woodward explained
that the Lions Club has planned accordingly so that it can continue to distribute scholarships .
Discussion followed . Black told the Commission that staff has confinned with the Colorado
State Lottery that lottery funds can be used for the maintenance of the train which will help with
long-term maintenance costs .
A motion was made by Commission Member Armstrong and seconded by
Commission Member Miller recommending that the City staff continue negotiating
with the Lions Club in regard to taking over the operation of the Englewood Lion's
Club Train.
Ayes: \-Valdman, Armstrong, McCaslin, 'Woodward, Miller
Nayes: None
The motion passed.
VI. RETIREES AND ENGLE\-VOOD SCHOOLS BENEFITS
Discus sion moved to Retirees and Englewood School Benefits. Information was distributed to
commission members . Hultberg informed the Commission that a request was made to City
Council by a City of Englewood retiree in regard to retirees receiving the same benefit at parks
and recreation facilities as a City of Englewood employee . Hultberg explained that School •
District employees were added to the request. Hultberg stated that in response to the request by
City Council , parks and recreation staff has been researching current recreation facility use
policies and potential impacts of the proposed changes .
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Hultberg explained that as a component of the Employee Wellness Program administered by the
Human Resource Department, all benefited City employees are eligible to use the Englewood
Recreation Center at no charge. Hultberg noted that free use of the Center does not extend to
employee spouses or dependents. Hultberg went on to explain that benefit employees are also
allowed to register for classes and pro grams at the resident rate that are offered by Parks and
Recreation. In regard to admission into Pirates Cove or Broken Tee Golf Course, Hultberg
stated that benefit employees can use these facilities at the resident rate. Hultberg also reported
that spouses and dependents of benefit employees approved by Human Resources can obtain an
Employee Dependent Card that will allow them use of the Recreation Center, Pirates Cove and
Broken Tee Golf Course in addition to recreation classes and programs at the resident rate.
Hultberg stated that Human Resources has reported that as of 12 /1/08, there were 123
Englewood retirees in addition to there currently being 322 benefit employees age forty years
and older. Hultberg added that retiree numbers could conceivably be as high as 400 or more in
fifteen years. In regard to the potential impact to the Englewood Recreation Center, Hultberg
explained that currently, r eti rees who use the Recreation Center pay a minimum of $2.60 per
visit with the purchase of a multi-visit resident pass . Under the new proposal , all retirees would
receive free admission . Currently, non-resident retirees and dependents who register for classes
and programs pay non-resident rates. With the new proposal , they would be eligible for the
resident rates which would be a twenty-five percent discount. Hultberg stated that twenty
percent of City employees take advantage of the free use of the Rec Center and assuming a
similar percentage ofretirees wou ld take advantage of the free admission , the potential impact
would be $7,800 (124 retirees x 20% participation= 25 x 3 visits per week x 40 weeks @
$2 .60 /visit) .
In regard to the impact to Pirates Cove , Hultberg reported that non-resident retirees and
dependents who visit Pirates Cove pay a minimum of $8.25 per visit with the purchase of a
multi-visit non-resident pass. Hultberg explained that under the new proposal , the retiree would
be eligible to receive the resident rate which equates to a twenty-two percent discount. Hultberg
stated that although the financial imp act is unknown , staff feels that it would be minimal.
Concerning the impact to Broken Tee Golf Course , Hultberg explained th at currently, non-
resident retirees and dependents th at play golf at Broken Tee pay an additional $8 per round
weekdays and $5 per round weekends over resident rates . Hultberg went on to explain that
under the new proposal , non-resident retirees would save significantly, particularly if they were
to purchase an annual pass ; noting that currently, annual passes are not available to non-
residents . Hultberg reported that the financial impact to Broken Tee would be $64,000 ( 100
retirees/spouses playing 2 rounds per week x 40 weeks@ $8.00 per round -the difference in
resident vs . non-resident fees -weekdays).
Hultberg then discussed the request for Englewood School employees to receive the same
discount as City of Englewood benefit employees. Hultberg reported that Englewood Schools
currently employs more than 425 employees. Hultberg stated that currently, Englewood School
employees are eligible to receive the corporate discount that is available to all Englewood
businesses and their individual employees . Hultberg explained that the minimum twenty-five
visit corporate pass allows a school employee to use the Rec Center for approximately $2.60 per
visit, the same as an Englewood adult resident who purchases a 30 visit pass . Hultberg went on
to explain that with the new proposal, Englewood School employees would receive free
admission to the Recreation Center. Commission members were informed that currently, non-
resident Englewood School employees who register for classes and program pay the non-
resident rate. With the new proposal, they would be eligible for the resident rate at a twenty-fi ve •
percent discount. Hultberg reported that twenty percent of Englewood School employees use
the Englewood Recreation Center and assuming that a similar percentage would use take
advantage of the free use of the Rec Center, the potential financial impact would be $26 ,520
( 425 employees x 20 % participation = 85 x 3 visits/week x 40 weeks at $2.60 per visit).
In regard to the financial impact to Pirates Co v e, Hultberg explained the currently, non-resident
School employees who visit Pirates Cove pay a minimum of $8.25 per visit with the purchase of
a multi-visit non-resident punch pass . Hultberg reported that under the new proposal , the School
employee would pa y the resident rate and staff feels the financial impact would be minimal.
For Broken Tee Golf Course, Hultberg told the Commission that currently, non-resident school
employees who play golf at Broken Tee pay an additional $4 per round weekdays and $5 per
round weekends over resident rates. Hultberg stated that the new proposal would result in a
significant savings for the non-resident school employee, particularly if the y were to purchase an
annual pass. In regard to the financial impact, Hultberg showed the Commis s ion that assuming
fifty percent of school employees play golf and would take ad vantage of resident rates , the
potential financial impact would be $22 ,365 (213 employees playing 2 times per week x 12
weeks during the summer @ $4 .00 per round discount -and one time per month x 9 months
during the school year @ $5 .00 per round discount).
Hultberg informed the Commission that the City of Englewood 's Hum an Resource Department
conducted a survey of nine Denver metropolitan area cities with similar demographics to •
Englewood . Hultberg stated that the question was asked , "What if any benefits does the City
give to retirees as it pertains to park and recreation facilities and programs , including golf'.
Commission members were told that all of those surveyed responded that no benefits of this type
were offered to their retirees.
Hultberg was asked the question as to why the prop o sal does not address school retirees.
Hultberg explained that the request from City Council was only for Englewood School
employees . Discussion followed. Commission members discussed the email s from Chairperson
Gomes and Commission Member Garrett in regard their recommendation to maintain the current
rate structure with no changes. Woodward also discussed Garrett 's comment that the golf
course is a part of the enterprise fund , separate from the City 's finances , and fees paid are used
to support the golf course without the transfer of City funds .
In regard to School employees receiving the same benefits as City employees , commission
members discussed school employees already recei ving a discount to the Recreation Center
through the corporate pass. Discussion followed .
A motion was made by Commission Member Armstrong and seconded by
Commission Member Miller recommending that current school employees continue
with the same fee structure that is currently being offered through the corporate
discount rate for the Englewood Recreation Center.
Ayes: \Valdman, Armstrong, Mccaslin, \Voodward, Miller
Nayes: None
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Discussion turned to a recommendation concerning City of Englewood retirees receiving the
same benefits as City employees at parks and recreation facilities. McCaslin referred back to the
survey done by Human Resources showing that no other City gives benefits to their retirees .
Armstrong noted that they are receiving benefits from their own community. Waldman
commented that if a person is retired, they are probably not coming to Englewood to work out.
Discussion followed in regard to the Silver Sneaker program that is currently being offered to
senior citizens that allows free use of the Englewood Recreation Center and the Malley Center in
addition to eligible recreation classes.
A motion was made by Commission Member \Voodward and seconded by
Commission Member Miller recommending that the current policy regarding
benefits at parks and recreation facilities for City of Englewood retirees remain the
same with no benefits.
Ayes: \Valdman, Armstrong, Mccaslin, \Voodward, Miller
Nayes: None
The motion passed.
CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION UPDATE
Black gave an update on the April Cultural Arts Commission meeting . In regard to the Art Wall
at Wal-Mart, Black informed the Commission that the artist, Todd Siler, has contacted
Community Development in regard to the art wall needing restoration. Black reported that there
is not funding in the Parks and Recreation, Community Development or Public Works budgets
for the restoration work so he has approached the Cultural Arts Commission to see if there is
interest in using money from the one percent art fund which has a balance of approximately
$38,000 . Black noted that the artist has proposed $16,000 to restore the art work. Black told the
Commission that the Culh1ral Arts Commission members have tabled the discussion to give
them time to go look at the art piece to discuss in more detail at the May meeting. Black
reported that the Cultural Art s Commission members felt that $16 ,000 was high for the work.
Black also reported that the City has asked the Museum of Outdoor Arts representative if MOA
had any interest in funding the restoration work but he has said that MOA does not have money
in the budget for the work. Black stated that there is a clause in the agreement that the City of
Englewood will maintain the art piece but that there is also a clause that the City of Englewood
can remove the art piece at any point.
DIRECTOR'S CHOICE
There were no items for Director's Choice .
COMMISSION MEMBER'S CHOICE
Commission Member Miller reported that the School Board will be appointing a new school
Board Member to replace Shelly Thompson who has resigned due to her moving out of the
district. Miller stated that the Board hopes to have someone appointed by May .
In regard to the Flood property, Miller stated that Englewood Schools will be sitting on the
property until the time when real estate becomes viable again.
Discussion followed in regard to the restructuring of Englewood Schools.
Golf Course Supervisor Wayne Niles reported that maintenance crews are aerating the greens
this week.
Dave Lee, Manager of Open Space, gave an update on the Community Garden. Lee reminded
Commission members that Waldman was appointed as the Parks and Recreation Commission
representative to the Community Garden committee . Lee explained that the committee meets
during the day which he understands is a difficult time for Waldman to meet due to work. Black
told the Commission that Cultural Arts Commission Liaison Donna Schnitzer is on the steering
committee and she could be the Parks and Recreation Commission representative. Commission
members concurred that Schnitzer be the Parks and Recreation Commission representative to the
Community Garden Committee. Lee reported that the Community Garden committee has had
several meetings and the next steps for them will be to notify the neighbors of plans for a
community garden, distribution of fliers and research and apply for grants. Discussion followed
in regard to a formal agreement with Denver Urban Gardens.
Lee told the Commission that the City of Littleton has contacted the City of Englewood in
regard to a number of sewer manholes that Littleton believes are located on the golf course that
need to be located. Black stated that the City of Littleton is in the process of bidding out the job
and then the City of Littleton and Englewood will enter into an agreement to begin the process
of locating the manholes .
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Lee announced that the Platte River Bridge was installed on Tuesday and the Dartmouth Bridge •
will be installed this week. Lee noted that the Platte River bridge is one section where as the
Dartmouth Bridge is two sections. Discussion followed regarding traffic flow.
Discussion turned to the Parks and Recreation budget. Black infonned the Commission that in
2008 , the Department went over budget by $200 ,000. Black noted that $160,000 of the overage
was related to capital improvements at Pirates Cove that included replacing boilers and pumps
that went down. Commission members were told that in 2008 , Pirates Cove also brought in the
largest amount of revenue in all the years it has been opened.
Woodward announced that the Parks and Recreation Aquatics Division was awarded by the
United States Water Fitness Association first place in the State of Colorado, first place in the
Parks and Recreation Category and fifth place for Aquatic Programs in the Country for 2008 .
Woodward and commission members congratulated the Aquatics Division on the awards .
Woodward notified the Commission that the Farmer's Market will open on Saturday, May 2nd at
the intersection of Broadway and Englewood Parkway. Commission members were told that the
Chamber was able to negotiate five booths for non-profits to raise funds.
IX. ADJOURl~MENT
The meeting was adjourned at 7:00pm.
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Deborah A. Severa , Recording Secretary •