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CALL TO ORDER
City of Englewood
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
Minutes of June 9, 2005
The regular monthly meeting of the Englewood Parks and Recreation Commission was called to order
at 5:30pm by Chairperson Gomes at the Cushing Park,, 795 West Eastman Avenue.
Present: Austin Gomes, Chairperson
Steve Neyer, Vice Chairperson
Carolyn Armstrong, Commission Member
Mitch Waldman, Commission Member
Jim Woodward, Commission Member (left at 5:58pm)
Karen Miller, Englewood School District Liaison
Beverly Bradshaw, City Counci l Liaison
Janet Moore , Cultural Arts Commission Liaison
Jerrell Black, ex officio
Absent: Rebecca Laughlin, Youth Commission Member
Krista Niederjohn, Youth Commission Member
Also present: Dave Lee , Open Space Manager
Gary Hultberg, Recreation Manager
Rick Kahm , Public Works Director
Bob Simpson, Community De velopment Director
Greg Kainer, Englewood Unleashed
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Chairperson Gomes asked if there were any changes or corrections to the minutes of May
12, 2005. There were none. The minutes were approved as presented.
III. SCHEDULED PUBLIC COMMENT
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There were no scheduled public guests .
IV. UNSCHEDULED PUBLIC COMMENT
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There were no unscheduled guests.
BELLEVIEW PARK DOG STUDY UPDATE
Discussion was turned over to Rick Kahm, Public Works Director for an update on the Belleview
Park flood plain study. Kahm informed the Commission that staff would also be attending
Monday night's City Council meeting to give an update. Commission members were told that a
number of possibilities in terms of breakaway or knockdown fencing were explored to try to come
up with a solution that would allow a dog park in a flood plain. Kahm told the Commission that
the study has come back that would allow grading of the site. Kahm explained that grading would
be required to level the site, taking it down approximately a foot which would mean that it would
not be necessary to go through FEMA since there would be no rise in the flood plain, a savings of
approximately $4,000.
Commission members were told that proposed cost for the site was estimated at $38,000. Kahm
reported that the City expects it will be able to do much of the work, which will lower cost to
approximately $10,000. Commission Member Armstrong asked who was the Consulting
Engineer. Kahm replied Muller. Black told the Commission that staff would be outlining other
estimated costs for further direction. Black thanked Kahm and Bob Simpson, Community
Development Director, for their time and effort they have put into the study.
Gomes asked in regard to the existing off-leash parks and what would come of them if and when
the Belleview dog park is approved. Black explained that at this time they would remain open
because the off-leash parks are a separate issue from a formal dog park. Black went on to explain
that the recommendation to staff was to form a task force to explore a formal dog park and that the
off-leash parks were not part of the Task Force's discussion. City Council Liaison Bradshaw
asked who paid for the study. Black replied the $17,000 for the study came from the Arapahoe
County Open Space Fund which $50,000 had been budgeted. Armstrong asked how long the
water study would take. Bradshaw reported that Utilities Director, Stu Fonda, Utilities Director,
has estimated 6-8 weeks.
VI. FRANKLIN STREET PROPERTY UPDATE
Simpson announced the City has hired James Koustas as the realtor for the Franklin Street
property. Discussion followed regarding the selection process. Commission members were told
that Mr. Koustas has started working and has had three to four showings. Simpson noted that the
unofficial listing for the property is at $410,000. Black informed the Commission that Mr.
Koustas lives in Arapahoe Acres and has sold a number of homes in the neighborhood.
Discussion followed.
VII. SINCLAIR HANDBALL PROPOSAL
Dave Lee, Open Space Manager, informed the Commission that he has solicited a number of
contractors to look at what it would cost to repair the Sinclair handball courts but that he has
received no solid quotes yet to present to the board. Lee discussed how the courts were built with
footers at the base of the walls, which has caused the floor of the courts to concave in making it
more difficult to repair.
In regard to last month's presentation by Stephen Bauer who proposed to spend his own money to
fix up the Sinclair handball courts, Black stated that he is very uncomfortable to allow someone to
spend $5,000 to $10,000 of their own money to fix the courts and two years later, have the courts
removed. Black explained that if the courts are in need of repair, then they need to be fixed so he
has asked Dave Lee to look into what it would cost to get them fixed temporarily until the Parks
Master Plan is completed. In regard to Mr. Bauer's proposal, Lee reported that he had been told
by a professional contractor that what Mr. Bauer is proposing could actually do further damage to
the courts.
Bradshaw commented that the lack of use could be due to the condition of the courts and
suggested that staff talk to other districts that maintain handball courts and see what type of use
they get. Black responded that staff would be happy to survey other districts; noting that the Parks
Master Plan will also be doing extensive research on handball court use in the metro area.
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VIII. SHERIDAN REDEVELOPMENT UDPATE
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Black reported that the City has reviewed Miller Weingarten's proposal and is now waiting for a
response back from them. Black explained how the proposal has the golf course shifting westward.
Black also confirmed that other properties are involved. In regard to the most recent meetings attended
by Bob Spada, Black stated that there has not been a lot of information provided and what information
has been given has been told "is subject to change". Commission Member Waldman commented in
regard to the number of years it will take to rebuild an 18-hole course. Black told Waldman that the
City is gathering data on that issue.
CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION UPDATE
Moore informed the Commission that the Cultural Arts Commission would be having a booth at the
Old Tyme Fair.
XII. DIRECTOR'S CHOICE
Black announced the Positively Englewood golf tournament on Monday, June 13th and explained
that proceeds from the tournament would go to the Parks and Recreation Trust Fund for parks and
recreation program scholarships.
XIII. COMMISSION MEMBER'S CHOICE
Bradshaw explained that in a conversation with Greg Kainer from Englewood Unleashed, Mr. Kainer
asked in regard to the new rules and regulations signs for the off-leash dog parks and if they were
posted. Black explained that the signs have not been put together due to his understanding that the
group did not come to a final agreement on them . Black stated that he would follow-up with Mr .
Kain er.
Englewood School Board Liaison Miller announced that the Englewood High School stadium would
be getting synthetic turf; nothing that the process will begin the first of July and should be completed
by the end of August. Miller reported that Colorado's Finest Alternative High School would be
getting a new science lab.
Waldman spoke in regard to the large amount of fundraising golf tournaments that are being held in
the City and the expense in participating in them. Waldman explained that people do not have a lot of
money to spend on golf tournaments.
In regard to prior discussion concerning the status of the off-leash dog parks once a formal dog park is
opened, Waldman explained to the Commission that the future of the off-leash parks had always been
an issue with the Off-Leash Task Force but that it's task was to find a location for a formal dog park
and the off-leash dog parks were a separate issue and never part of the discussion.
Lee spoke in regard to a letter he had received from Frank and Connie Rauzi, neighbors of Jason Park,
regarding their concerns about the condition of Jason Park "due to the over-use by the no-leash law for
dogs". Lee told the Commission that the Rauzi's had called him last week, which he had urged them
to address City Council and the Commission. Lee commented that they had chosen to do it by this
letter.
Lee informed the Commission that he had been approached by Earl Ladewig regarding the
misplacement of a plaque in Cushing Park. Lee told the Commission that the plaque was in honor of a
son of his, Melvin Ladewig, that went missing in action. Lee noted that the plaque was placed in the
park in 1972. Lee stated that he nor long-time parks staff has any knowledge of the plaque but
according to Mr. Ladewig the plaque was there last year. Commission members were told that staff
will be using a metal detector to search the area in case the plaque has been buried. Lee asked
Commission in how they would like staff to proceed if the plaque is not located. Vice Chairperson
Neyer noted that the new policy does not allow plaques and asked if the City allegedly paid for the
plaque. Lee stated that he assumes the City paid for it. Moore asked if the City planted a tree with the
plaque. Lee said yes and explained that the tree is now 30-40 years old. Black discussed a
commemorative board is now located at City Center where plaques such as this are now placed.
Discussion followed. Armstrong told the Commission of a similar situation at Cherry Creek State
Park and explained that the City needs to resolve the situation by telling the family that this time the
City will replace the plaque but the next time the plaque is lost or vandalized the City will not be
responsible.
Hultberg gave an update on Pirates Cove. Commission members were told that there have been a
couple of good weather days in addition to two or three complete closure days due to the temperature
falling to 65° or below. Hultberg explained how the facility will be closed so not to incur staff costs.
The Commission was told that a leak was discovered in the pool and staff is working to get the
problem resolved; noting that it is under warranty.
XIV. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 6: 11 pm.
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Deborah A Severa, Recording Secretary
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