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FIREFIGHTERS PENSION BOARD l\1EETING
April 8, 1993
A regular meeting of the Englewood Firefighters Pension Board was called to order by
Board Chairperson Chris Olson at 3 :20 p.m . in the Conference Room of the Englewood
Police/Fire Complex, 3615 South Elati Street.
Members Present:
Members Absent:
Others Present:
Chris Olson, Chairperson
Willis Resley, Council Appointee
Mike Gruninger, Employee Representative
Bill Young, Employee Representative
Clyde Wiggins, Mayor
Lorraine Hayes, Director of Financial Services
None
Rick DeWitt, City Attorney
Don Mazanec, William M . Merce r Inc .
Carol Wescoat, Recording Secretary
A quorum was present.
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Approval of Minutes
MAYOR WIGGINS MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR
l\1EETING OF JANUARY 12 , 1993 . MS. HAYES SECONDED .
Ayes :
Nay s :
Abs ent:
The motion carried .
Olson, Young, Resley, Gruninger, Wiggins , Hayes,
None
None
MS . HA YES MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE JOINT l\1EETING OF
MARCH 23 , 19 93 ; WITH THE Al\1END1\1ENT OF THE DATE CORRECTED FROM
APRIL 23 , 1993 TO MARCH 23 , 1993 . MAYOR WIGGINS SECONDED.
Ayes:
Nays :
Absent:
The motion carried .
Olson, Young, Resley, Gruninger, Wiggins, Hayes
None
None
SEATING OF COUNCIL APPOINTEE WILLIS RESLEY
Willis "Shorty" Resley's re-appointment by the City Council to the Firefighters Pension
Board was acknowledged . Chairperson Olson welcomed Mr. Resley to another term on
the Board .
OLD BUSINESS
Consideration of Approval of amount for Garcilaso retirement benefit
Mr. Gruninger questioned Mr . Garcilaso's eligibility to receive benefit if working for
another fire agency .
Chairperson Olson stated the State statute restricting benefits was overturned last year
with FPP A support.
MR. GRUNINGER MOVED TO APPROVE A $2, 130.64 MONTHLY RETIREMENT
BENEFIT FOR JOHNNY GARCILASO TO BEGIN AT AGE 50. MR. RESLEY
SECONDED.
Ayes :
Nays :
Absent:
Olson, Young, Resley, Gruninger, Wiggins , Hayes
None
None
Consideration of William Mercer Inc . examples of payout options
Mr. Mazanec reviewed the options in the examples and explained the current payout
benefit is according to the State statutes : He feels that creating additional payout options
could possibly be a problem for IRS . The changes would mean restating the plan.
Discussion ensued regarding the change of benefit as it relates to the non-married
employee and any discrimination issues as well as the impact on the fund. Changing the
payout options would basically provide for the beneficiary of the non-married employee or
an increase in monthly benefit if there is no beneficiary .
Ms. Hayes pointed out that restating the plan would require a vote of the members and
there is a great deal of work involved in restating the plan .
Discussion followed related to restating the plan and the probability of approval by the
membership .
MR. GRUNINGER MOVED TO PROCEED WITH A RESTATEMENT OF THE
PLAN FOR ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF PAY-OUT AT RETIREMENT. MR.
YOUNG SECONDED .
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Discussion : Ms. Hayes asked ifthere were a middle ground between proceeding
with restatement and abandonment of restatement to allow an additional
solicitation of the members in support of the restatement through meetings .
Chairperson Olson concurred, provided the support of the board members does
not encourage an attitude that the City is trying to plunder or actually somehow
intending to reduce the firefighters benefits . Ms. Hayes caveat is the. possibility of
increasing the employee contribution .
Ayes:
Nays:
Absent:
The motion carried .
Olson, Young, Resley, Gruninger
Hayes, Wiggins
None
Discussion issued clarifying the process will begin with a meeting of the membership to
ensure interest exists in changing the payout option .
Mr. Mazanec commented that the retiree benefits will not be changed and questioned the
retirees need to vote on the restatement.
Consideration of FPPA affiliation
Ms. Hayes explained that although consideration of FPP A affiliation was presented at the
last board meeting there was not a quorum present at the point of voting .
Discussion followed indicating a possibility of not voting on FPP A affiliation at this time
because of the FPP A restrictions of a "one time affiliation vote."
MR. GRUNINGER MOVED TOT ABLE THE FPPA AFFILIATION VOTE. MAYOR
WIGGINS SECONDED .
Ayes :
Nays :
Absent:
Olson, Young, Resley, Gruninger, Wiggins, Hayes
None
None
Consideration of reclassification of firefighters positions to correspond with State Statutes
Ms . Hayes explained the classification of a first grade firefighter by City standards is the
opposite of State statutes and the board may wish to make a formal request to rename the
position.
MR. GRUNINGER MOVED TO PROCEED WITH A REQUEST TO RENAME FIRST
GRADE FIREFIGHTER TO CONFORM WITH STATE STATUTES . MR. YOUNG
SECONDED.
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Ayes:
Nays:
Absent:
The motion carried .
Olson, Young, Resley, Gruninger, Wiggins , Hayes
None
None
Mayor Wiggins left at 4:05 p.m. A quorum was retained .
Sheridan's acceptance of volunteer firefighters settlement
Ms. Hayes stated that Sheridan has accepted the City's offer on the volunteer firefighters
settlement and that Mr. DeWitt has drafted an ordinance with an intergovernmental
agreement that will go to City Council on April 19th .
Mr. DeWitt explained the current amount of $55,890 will change with interest as the
actual time of payment is determined .
Mr. Gruninger questioned whether the board has the authority to transfer their plan funds
to the City of Sheridan without City Cou.ncil approval.
Mr. DeWitt explained that an intergovernmental agreement must go before the City
Council.
Discussion ensued related to the amount and benefit calculation based on the actual years
with Englewood and prorating of service. Mr. DeWitt distributed a copy of the present
value of benefits to board members .
Further discussion related to the board's vote on the issue followed . Chairperson Olson
clarified that the board had voted to submit the offer to Sheridan and based on that vote
the offer was approved . Chairperson Olson referred to the October 8, 1992 minutes
indicating the consensus of the board members present was that the formula had been
voted on by a quorum at the March 24 , 1992 meeting . The amount offered was based on
that formula and there was no further vote necessary .
CHAIRPERSON OLSON MOVED APPROVAL OF THE FIREFIGHTERS PENSION
BOARD ATTORNEY SUBMITTING AN ORDINANCE TO THE CITY COUNCIL
AUTHORIZING THE TRANSFER OF FUNDS TO SHERIDAN BASED ON THE
CALCULATIONS DERIVED BY WILLIAM M . MERCER INC., WHICH WILL BE
ACCURATE TO THE DATE THE ORDINANCE TAKES EFFECT . MS. HAYES
SECONDED .
Ayes : Olson , Young, Resley, Hayes
Nays : Gruninger
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Absent: Wiggins
The motion carried .
20% Supplemental Disability Benefit
Ms. Hayes and Mr. DeWitt presented the ordinance draft that separates the funds for the
20% Supplemental Disability Benefit from the Firefighters Pension funds . Mr. DeWitt
stated that primarily this will be an administrative/accounting change. The ordinance does
not change the eligibility nor the amount of the benefit. The ordinance provides the
funding for the benefit to be placed in the Health Self Insurance fund .
Mr. Mazanec pointed out that currently there are four ( 4) firefighters receiving the
benefits and the amount to fund these recipients has been calculated at approximately
$100 ,000 .
Discussion ensued explaining the benefit and funding .
MS . HA YES MOVED THE FIREFIGHTERS PENSION BOARD RECOMMEND TO
THE CITY COUNCIL AN ORDINANCE TRANSFERRING THE 20% SUPPLE-
MENT AL DISABILITY BENEFIT OUT OF THE OLD HIRE FIRE PENSION FUND
TO THE HEALTH SELF INSURANCE FUND. CHAIRPERSON OLSON
SECONDED .
Discussion : Mr. Gruninger requested the motion be amended to limit the amount.
Further discussion specified actual payment calculations in an amount of
approximately $152,000 .00 . Mr. Mazanec estimated an actuarial calculation of the
liability amounted to approximately $104 ,000 .
Mr. DeWitt left at 4 :50 p .m.
MR. GRUNINGER MOVED FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION
RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL AN ORDINANCE TRANSFERRING
THE 20% SUPPLEMENT AL DISABILITY BENEFIT OUT OF THE PENSION FUND
TO THE HEAL TH SELF INSURANCE FUND IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED
$104,000 . MR . RESLEY SECONDED.
Ayes :
Nays:
Absent:
The motion carried .
Young, Resley, Gruninger
Hayes, Olson
Wig g ins
CHAIRPERSON OLSON CALLED FOR A VOTE ON THE MOTION AS AMENDED
RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL AN ORDINANCE TRANSFERRING
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. THE 20% SUPPLEMENT AL DISABILITY BENEFIT OUT OF THE PENSION FUND
TO THE HEALTH SELF INSURANCE FUND AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED
$104,000. CHAIRPERSON OLSON SECONDED.
Ayes :
Nays:
Absent:
The motion carried .
Hayes, Olson, Resley
Young, Gruninger
Wiggins
Analysis of Boston Company investments
Ms . Hayes has attempted to arrange with the other pension boards a time for a Joint
Board meeting . The consensus was sometime in May would be considered .
NEW BUSINESS
1993 Actuarial Report
Mr. Mazanec reviewed the actuarial report draft .
Discussion followed related to the report .
Mr. Gruninger questioned the percentage change in contribution amount and Chairperson
Olson explained the amount is subject to change .
Additional discussion related to the unfunded liability and the change of contribution
percentage.
Groditski pension to begin at retirement age
MR. GRUNINGER MOVED TO APPROVE A $2,022.09 MONTHLY RETIREMENT
BENEFIT FOR WALTER GRODITSKI TO BEGIN AT AGE 50. MS . HA YES
SECONDED .
Attendance of meetings
Ms . Hayes reviewed the attendance record distributed to the members . The record is for
information purposes and discussion indicated that adequate notification increases
attendance .
Review oflssue sheet for 4/19/93 meeting with City Council
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Ms. Hayes reviewed the issue sheet for the City Council Study Session . Chairperson Olson
will present the issues to the Council.
MEMBERS CHOICE
Mr. Gruninger questioned the lack of State funding for their pension plan.
Chairperson Olson explained the City's past decision to not participate in State funding
because of an assessment of a property tax mill levy.
Mr. Mazanec further outlined some of the loop holes involved in State funding .
Mr. Gruninger stated he will pursue the eligibility of receiving State funding on his own.
CHAIRPERSON OLSON MOVED TO ADJOURN. MS . HA YES SECONDED.
Ayes :
Nays:
Absent :
The motion carried .
Young, Resley, Gruninger, Hayes, Olson
None
Wiggins
Meeting adjourned at 5 :50 p .m.
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caro1 Wescoat
Recording Secretary
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