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The Planning Director was requested to transmit this decision of the Commission to the DMATS
Committee. She was also requested to obtain an opinion from the City Attorney as to whether
or not a Public Hearing is definitely required before the Planning Commission, and whether
the classification of streets and the one-way designation can be accomplished in two separate
procedures, i.e., one-way designation by ordinance, the classification by the Master Street
Plan.
The meeting adjourned at 11:15 P.M.
Gertrude G. Welty
Recording Secretary
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CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
June 1, 1966
I. CALL TO ORDER.
The Special Meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at 8:15
P.M. by Chairman Woods.
Members present: Carlson; Love; Touchton; Woods
Romans, Ex-officio
Members absent: Parkinson; Rice
Also present: Parks Commission members Allen, Beier, Cushing, Kreiling
Parks Staff Ro mans, Printz, Hale
J. C. Member Lone
Chairman Woods welcomed members of the parks Commission and staff to our meeting. He stated
this joint meeting has been sought to consider two objectives: 1) the Planning Commission
is charged by Charter with the submission of a 5-year Capital Improvement Program to City
Council; and 2) the consideration of all of the park sites, but most particularly the proposed
Dartmouth Park -Site, as various traffic patterns would affect them; i.e., the vacation of
existing rights-of-way and easements and the propose d dedications of new rights-of-way and
easements.
Mr. Woods stated the 5-year program, (broken on a ye a r-by-year basis), must be referred to
the City Manager and the City Council very shortly. Mr. Cushing stated the Parks Commissim
currently has a 5-year plan; it is not, however, on a yearly basis, but could be broken down
easily.
Mr. Woods inquired as to whether a park is definitely scheduled for the Dartmouth-Santa Fe-
Floyd area? It has been rumored that this site will possibly be abandoned for park use. Mr.
Cushing repli~d this rumor is false --there is a park planned for the area. The Park Com-
mission has been concerned about the traffic pattern in the area; it is felt by the Commission
that a street -even along the western edge -will cut down on the usefulness of the site as
a park. Mr. Beier commented that it would help their Commission if they knew the proposed
traffic pattern. Mr. Woods stated that Floyd Avenue has been tentatively proposed one-way
west bound. There has been discussion of the possible extension of Floyd across the railroad
tracks and across Santa Fe; the State Highway Department had stated they would give any sub-
mitted plans for such extension their consideration. To this time, Von Frellick Associates
have indicated no further interest in the extension of Floyd, and if the one-way west-bound
designation is to remain on Floyd, some means of egress from the shopping site must be found • .
Mrs. Romans pointed out that South Fox is proposed to be the only street north of Floyd wifu
direct access to the shopping site. In her opinion, Fox alone cannot possibly carry the
projected volume of traffic which will be generated by the shopping development .. Discussion
followed. Mr. Beier stated the City Attorney was in the process of reappraising the properties
within the proP,osed park site. He asked if any consideration had been given the Dartmouth-
Santa Fe intersection; he commented this particular intersection does not efficiently carry
the present traffic volume, much less accommodate a projected volume. Mrs. Romans stated
this intersection has been considered in very great detail; an interchange has been discussed;
however, no _decision has been reached.
The application for Federal aid made by the Parks Commission was discussed. If this aid is
approved, purchase of the cannery on the southeast corner of the Dartmouth-Santa Fe Lane
intersection can be accomplished. Beginning development of the park, if the land is obtained,
is scheduled for the fall of 1966.
Further discussion of proposed interchanges at Floy d and Dartmouth Avenues at South Santa Fe
ensued. Mr. Love stated he understood an interchange at Floyd and Santa Fe was not favored
because of its proximity to the Highway 70 -Santa Fe interchange. Mrs. Romans stated con-
sideration has also been given to the extension of Floyd under the tracks to tie into the
north-south route along the South Platte River. If such a proposal is approved, it would
relieve the problem at Dartmouth and Santa Fe.
Mrs. Romans asked about the treatment of Little Dry Creek at Dartmouth? Mr. Kreiling stated
that in his opinion, there could be difficulties crossing tbe Creek at Floyd.
The underpass at Floyd and Santa Fe was again discussed. Mr. Kreiling stated a minimum
clearance of 16' plus beams would be required.
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Mr. Carlson discussed the possibilit~ of a roadway extending north along the tracks from
Floyd to Dartmouth. This roadway would extend around the cannery. He asked what effect
this would have on the planned ballpark? Park Commission members reiter ted their previous
statement that any roadway thru the park site would decrease its usefulness. Mr. Romans
stated that commitments have been given on park developments, which the Commission feels
have to be kept. Discussion followed. Mr. Cushing stated he appreciated the opportunity to
meet with the Planning Commission. The Parks Commission members and their staff members
left the meeting.
Mr. Woods discussed future meetings of the Commission. June 8th is a regular meeting; it has
been suggested that City Department heads be invited to discuss capital improvements.
June 15th is the Public Hearing for the Englewood State Bank height exception. Offi cials
from ICRPC will also be present.
Commission members discussed the street plan; Mrs. Romans stated that of ficials fr om
Englewood State Bank have told her that it has been their understanding that Cherokee would
be extended north to Floyd Avenue. A representative of the bank expressed the opinion that
the bank would prefer that Cherokee be one-way northbound and Bannock one-way southbound.
If this proposal is carried through, it would be necessary that Floyd be designated two-wa~
at least between Cherokee and Bannock. Further discussion foll owed. The Planning Director
was instructed to request a letter from the Park and Recreation Commission stating: 1) their
intent to develop a park on the properties at Dartmouth and Santa Fe, and 2) their opposition
to a street or road thru the property. The Planning Director was also instructed to send
communications to the City Engineer, Von Frellick Associates, and the State Highway Depart-
ment asking for their desi gn suggestions on the Dartmouth-Santa Fe intersection and the pro-
posed Floyd extension onto or across South Santa Fe Drive.
Mrs. Romans stated she had asked the City Attorney's opinion on the designation of streets
in the Master Plan. It is his opinion the streets need only be given arterial or collector
designation; the one-way pattern is a legislative matter and can be accomplished by other
procedures. It is also his opinion that a Public Hearing on the Master Plan is required be-
f ore the Plannin g Commission. Discussion ensued.
The meeting adjourned at 9:40 P.M.
Gertrude G. Welty
Recording Secretary
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I . CALL TO ORDER.
CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
Special Meeting
June 15, 1966
The Special Meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at 7:30P .M.
by Chairman Woods.
Members present: Carlson, Parkinson, Rice, Touchton, Woods
Romans, Ex-officio
Members absent: Love
Also present: City Councilmen Allen, Fullerton, Kreiling, Ludwig; City Attorney Criswell;
J. K. Smith; Alan Peterson; Robert Frank; Mike Reidy; Roland Meuher
II. ENGLEWOOD INDUSTRIAL PARK
Curb and Gutter Requirements
CASE #7-66
Mrs. Romans stated that the request made by Mr. Tom Holland for permission to install valley-
type gutter along the Industrial Park has been referred to the Planning Commission. The Sub-
division Regulations require the installation of paved streets, concrete curbs, gutters, anti
sidewalks. There is no provision in the Subdivision Regulations for the valley-type gutter
and omitting the curb and sidewalk. Mrs. Romans stated .she had discussed the request with
the City Engineer. Mr. Waggoner is concerned, as is Mrs. Romans, about this type of installa-
tion at this location. The valley-type gutter will not carry the drainage that the vertical
curbing will carry, and will create problems with traffic control in relation to parking and
uncontrolled access to properties.
Mr. Love entered and took his place on the Commission.
The Planning Director read a memorandum from City Enginee~ Waggoner which set forth what,
in his opinion, are advantages and disadvantages of the valley gutter, as well as the cost
comparisons:
Advantages: Truck ingress and egress;
Lower initial costs;
No removal or replacement for curb cuts.
Disadvantages: Less storm-water carrying c apacity;
No control of ingress and egress;
Difficulty of enforceme n t of parking restrictions;
No control of random parking;
No provision for pedestrian traffic;
How would warrants for the installation of this section be set up --traffic
count, non-arterial, etc?