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A short recess was called. The meeting was recalled to order at 9:20 P.M.
III. MODEL CITIES PROGRAM.
Mrs. Romans stated that the Model Cities program really concerns both the College View area
in Denver, and the Scenic View area in Englewood. She stated that Mr. Grove had been working
on the program quite extensively, and the presentation will be made by Mr. Grove.
Mr. Giltner pointed out that Denver has two areas in the Model Cities Program, which comprise
probably a tenth of the total population of the City.
' Mr. Grove outlined the boundaries of the Model Cities area in Denver, which are roughly South
Federal Boulevard on the west, West Jewell Avenue on the north, South Pecos Street and South
Zuni Street on the east, and West Dartmouth Avenue on the south. He stated that the Denver
administration is aware that the residential area to the east of Zuni is in the City of
Englewood, and that it is not included in the application, but they felt that the entire
residential area was a "neighborhood".and should be considered as such. He stated he felt
there were three "neighborhoods" within this one "neighborhood" --one for the area north
of Evans Avenue, the second between Evans and Yale Avenue, and the third .between Yale Avenue
and Hampden Avenue. He stated that in his opinion it would be a logical approach to the
school .problem in the area if there could be a school located centrally within each of these
"neighborhoods". Mr. Grove also mentioned the gulch that extends through both the area in
Denver and the area in Englewood. He felt there could possibly be some sort of cooperation
between the two governmental agencies on this point also. Discussion followed. Mrs. Romans
stated she felt there were three points on which cooperation between Denver, Englewood and
Sheridan could be effective: the matter of schools, the gulch, and fire protection. It
was pointed out the fire stations that are now in the area are not by themselves ,adequate
and possibly if there could be one well-manned, well-equipped, station to serve the area,
it could result in a savings for the three communities.
Mrs. Romans pointed out that the residents of Northwest Englewood are now circulating
petitions to open additional streets in the neighborhood, and are also circulating petitions
to have the area zoned for two-family residential rather than single-family as it is now.
She asked if this would have any affect on the plans that Denver has in the Colleve View
Area? She also pointed out that the Northwest Englewood area has water and sewer service,
and that there are some of the streets paved. She pointed out that the .City has a commit-
ment from Public Service Company and the Telephone Company to move, at company expense, the
service poles which would be in the right-of-way at such time as the right-of-way is .secured
for a street and the street is opened. She stated that in the fall of 1967, a Mr. Moore
from the HUD office in Fort Worth had been in Englewood, and that he had toured the Northwest
area of the City. Mr. Moore had been of the opinion that the area is improving, not
deteriorating, and did not feel it would qualify for code enforcement.
Mr. Grove stated that the people in the College View area were interested in keeping the
"interior" area single-family residential, but on the perimeters they had mentioned "buffer
zoning". He did not feel the two-family zoning under consideration in Northwest Englewood
would be at all wrong --it would serve as a buffer between the industrial to the east, and
the single-family residential to the west.
Mr. Davis stated he thought that Denver and Englewood had been given a wonderful opportuniiy
to demonstrate that two governmental bodies can cooperate on a mutual interest project, and
felt it was time that we started working toward that goal. Further brief discussion followed.
Mr. Kelley expressed the appreciation of the Denver Planning Board and staff for the in-
vitation to meet with the Englewood Planning Commission. Mr. Woods thanked them for attending,
and stated he hoped we could meet again in the future.
The meeting adjourned at 10:00 P.M.
Gertrude G. Welty
Recording Secretary
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I. CALL TO ORDER.
CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
November 6, 1968
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning C,ommission was called to order by
Chairman Woods at 8:15 P.M.
Members present:
Members absent:
Also present:
Carlson; Lone; Lentsch; Parkinson; Touchton; Woods
Romans, Ex-officio
None
Messrs. Lyon, Mack, Rhodus, Mock, Birk, Simpson, Gross, and Herbertson.
Mr. Woods welcomed our guests to the meeting.
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
Mr. Woods stated that the minutes of the October 9th and October 16th meetings were to fire
considered for approval.
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Touchton moved:
Parkinson seconded: The Minutes of the meetings of October 9, 1968, and October 16, 1968,
be approved as written.
The motion carried unanimously.
III. BAPTIST THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY
S. University -Highway #70
CASE #37-68 Annexation
38-68 Zoning
Mr. Woods stated that representatives of the Baptist Theological Seminary were present to
discuss the possible annexation of their property, which is on the northwest corner of
University Boulevard and State Highway 70.
Mrs. Romans referred to a review of the discussions of the Kent School site since it was
first petitioned for annexation in 1961, which had been given members for their information.
She stated that she first discussed the possible annexation of the subject site with Mr.
Birk in March of 1968. The former Director of Utilities, Mr. Dobratz, had referred Mr.
Birk to her, and Mr. Dobratz had stated to her that water and sewer service would be
available to the site, and that he felt it would be wise f or the City officials to consider
the annexation. She stated that the Board of Trustees of the Baptist Theological Seminary
are now considering presenting a petition asking to be annexed to the City of Englewood.
Mrs. Romans also referred the members of the Commission to a copy of a letter written to
Mr. Birk by City Attorney Criswell, date of August 8, 1968. Mrs. Romans stated that the
matter had been referred to the departments which would have concern over the matter, and
read the reply of Fire Chief Sovern, which is as follows:
"November 6, 1968
After reviewing water supply and access to property for fire equipment, the proposal is
acceptable with the following recommendations:
a. Fire hydrant to be located on proposed entrance road from South University and to be
supplied with an 8" water main.
b. Driveways around buildings should be a minimum of 20' to compensate for truck width
and turning radius.
DOUGLAS C. SOVERN
Fire Chief"
Mr. Birk introduced Mr. Gross, the Vice-President of the Board of Truestees, and Mr. Simpson,
the contractor they have engaged to do the work. Mr. Birk stated that this development will
be a graduate school of Theology. They formerly owned property and have been located in the
Cheeseman Park area in Denver. The Seminary purchased the east 12 acres of the Kent School
property in June o f 1968, and the Board of Truestees has now decided to seek annexation to
the City of Englewood. The primary use of the property will be the graduate school, and
housing will be provided for the students as an accessory use. Mr. Birk discussed the re-
modeling of the existing structures that is now underway, and their plans for new buildings,
permits for which have been taken out in Arapahoe County. The building that was formerly
the Kent School gymnasium will be used as a library and the dormitory that was used by the
Kent School girls will be used as dormitory quarters for the single girls attending the
Seminary. Facilities for married students and single male students will be provided in
four, thirty-five foot high dormitories, which will be built in the northwest corner of the
property in the first phase of the new construction. Some eighty units are planned initially,
with additional units planned in the future.
Mrs. Romans asked Mr. Mack, Acting Utilities Director, if there would be any problem in
furnishing water and sewer service to the proposed developm ~nt? Mr. Mack stated that the
City has two policies regarding water and sewer service; one for areas that are within the
City limits, and another for areas that are not part of the corporate City. He stated that
service can be provided; however, the fees would be according to the status of the propert~
whether it is part of the City, or whether it is outside the City limits. Mrs. Romans
noted that Chief Sovern has recommended an 8 11 water line in the area. Mr. Mack stated that
Denver has a water line in University Boulevard to serve the area now; Englewood serves
water in the northern area, and he would propose that a connection from a 6 11 main in Race
Street through Kent Village be made. He noted that the land is rather high, and the water
pressure in the area is low, and until the program underway to improve the pressure is
completed, that residents of the area can expect poor water pressure. He stated that a
fire hydrant cannot be connected to less than a 6 11 main. He stated the 6" main will serve
the 80 units immediately planned, but to serve the expansion of 130+ units, an 8 11 main will
have to be installed. He stated that there is a 12" main at Race and Floyd Avenue; he
would like to bring this line down Race to give better service to all properties.
Mr. Carlson asked what service could be expected by the developers of the KLZ Site? Mr.
Mack stated that service would be provided fr om Highway 70; the land slopes northward, and
he felt the pressure in this instance would be better.
Mr. Lone asked what the pressure had been before the improvement program was started? Dis-
cussion followed. Mr. Woods stated that the average pressure was around 60# at the Fire
Hydrants, but he pointed out that some dropped as low as 35 -40 lbs. and others were as
high as 120 lbs. Further discussion followed.
Mrs. Romans stated that the representatives of the Seminary were also interested in the
zoning that would be applied to their property if they did annex to the City. She stated
that the City can begin zoning procedures, but the annexation of the property must become
final b~fore the zoning does. She stated that it .was the opinion of the City Attorney that
th~ Seminary can build ~n a~y zone district, and that the only problem would be the proposed
height --35 ft. If this site were .to be placed in the R-3-B .Zone District as the Kent
Village is proposed to be, there would be no problem. '
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Mr. Simpson stated the Seminary wanted to be a part of the City of Englewood. He stated
that they will not need water or sewer service until June or July of 1969, but they would
like to know where the service is coming from. He stated they would also prefer the R-3-B
zone classification in order that they would not have to apply for variances in the height
of future buildings. Discussion of the zone classification followed. Mr. Touchton pointed
out that there are presently several abandoned school sites in single-family zone districts
that cannot be sold or redeveloped until they are rezoned to an R-3 zone classification.
He felt the R-3-B would be compatible to the Kent Village development to the west, which is
also being considered for R-3-B. Further discussion followed.
Parkinson moved:
Lone seconded: Provided a petition for annexation of the site owned by the Baptist
Theological Seminary is received by noon of November 14, 1968, a
public hearing to zone the property to R-3-B (Multi-family Residential)
be set for December 18, 1968. The property is to be properly posted,
and public notice is to be given in the official city newspaper.
The motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Woods suggested that it would be in order to make a recommendation to City Council on the
feasibility of annexing the site.
Mr. Lone moved: The Planning Commission recommend to City Council that favorable con-
sideration be given to any petition for annexation submitted by the
Baptist Theological Seminary for the 12+ acres at the northwest corner
of University Boulevard and Highway #70.
The motion was seconded, and carried unanimously.
Mr. Lentsch asked about the drainage problem in the area? He pointed out that there is a
problem there, and further development with black-topped areas will increase the problem.
Mr. Simpson stated that the drainage has been studied; the property drains to the northwest
corner to Race Street. Further discussion followed. The Councilmen stated that the matter
of drainage would be considered when the City Council considered the matter of annexation.
IV. URBAN MASS TRANSPORTATION
Mr. Lyon and Mr. Herbertson
CASE #39-68
Mr. Lyon stated that he and Mr. Herbertson were present to ask Commission approval of an
application for Federal aid to purchase three additional buses for Mr. Herbertson's route.
This application will be sent to the Department of Transportation. He stated that approval
by City Council in the form of a resolution will also be required, and everything should be
completed by November 18th. It must also be submitted to the Denver Regional Council of
Governments before it can be sent to the Department of Transportation. Mr. Lyon pointed out
that the line run by Mr. Herbertson has experienced financial difficulties for some time, and
that in June, 1968, an agreement was signed by the cities of Englewood and Littleton, and
the Ft. Logan community with Mr. Herbertson. Englewood and Littleton subsidize the bus
route now by providing gasoline and insurance. He stated that a used Denver Tramway bus
was purchased, and the title does belong to the City of Englewood. The application will
be for three new buses. The application will be based on the 2 /3:1/3 basis, with Mr. Herbertson
supplying the 1 /3 for the City's share, or approximately $30,000. If the application is
approved, the City of Englewood will take title to the buses, and Mr. Herbertson will con-
tinue to manage the route.
Mr. Lone asked if Mr. Lyon had checked with the Council of Governments to see whether or
not the application could be submitted at this time? Mrs. Romans stated that she and Mr.
Jayne, Planning Director for the City of Littleton, had met with Mr. Bill Johnston of the
Council of Governments last week, and his concern was that a Mass Transit study for the metro
area is presently underway, but not completed. It is Mr. Johnston's opinion that we could
not be eligible for the 2 /3:1 /3 assistance, but might possibly come in under an emergency
program that would provide 50-50 assistance. Mr. Lone stated that he was concerned on the
time element, inasmuch as the restriction has been placed that no applications for federal
aid would be accepted in the metro area until studies had been completed in the five areas
as discussed by Mr. Smith at the July 17th meeting. He stated that this was effective in
June of 1968, or shortly after, and questioned that this application could be submitted.
He stated that when the City asked approval of a location change for the Centennial Park
it was noted that the original application was submitted prior to the decision of the Federal
Government.
Mr. Lyon stated that they were going to emphasize that the matter of federal aid has been
considered and discussed since December 1967; he stated the matter had been discussed with
the Denver Metropolitan Transportation System committee. Mr. Lyon stated that the route is
proposed to be expanded in two areas; the first is east on Girard Avenue to Downing, north
on Downing to Yale to connect with the Denver Tramway at that point, east on Yale to Colorado
Boulevard, with connections at University Boulevard and Colorado Boulevard with the Denver
Tramway, and then bsck. The second area of expansion is from Highway 70 north on Federal
to Loretto Heights, east on Dartmouth to Bryant, south on Bryant to Highway 70 and east on
Highway 70 to Englewood. There would be a connection with the Denver Tramway at Loretto
Heights. Mr. Herbertson commented that these expansions would provide service to some of
the lower income areas in Denver and Englewood. Mr. Parkinson asked how this proposed ex-
pansion would affect the subsidy provided by Englewood? Mr. Lyon stated that it is hoped
that the maintenance costs would drop, and with the subsidy being continued, it might bring
the line to the "break even" point. He stated the expansion could increase the costs in the
matter of fuel provided, and insurance rates. This could reach approximately $5,000 to
$6,000 per year.
Mr. Herbertson pointed out that neither the Swedish Hospital area nor the Porter Hospital
area is served by the Englewood Bus. He stated that the line averages 300 passengers per
day. He felt the service would be improved by the three new buses, and that more revenue
would be realized. Mr. Herbertson pointed out that with the new buses, there would be a
bus leaving Englewood Englewood every 30 minutes, and one leaving Littleton every 30 minutes.
Mr. Carlson commented that if the bus line was losing money now with one bus, that in his
opinion, with three buses, it would lose twice as much money. Mr. Lyon pointed out that
both the areas under consideration for bus route expansion will be on a one year trial basis.
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Mr. Carlson asked how much it would cost to lease a bus? Mr. Herbertson stated it was $1
per mile, and they average 120 miles per day for each bus. Also, the maintenance cost,
salary for the driver, and fuel are extra. Mr. Lentsch asked where the bus picked up the
most passengers? Mr. Herbertson stated that the passengers are about 2 /3 from Englewood
and 1 /3 from Littleton; Girard and Broadway is a prime location, and they ride to Ft. Logan,
to and from work. Further discussion followed.
Parkinson moved:
Touchton seconded: The Planning Commission recommend that the .City make application to the
Department of Transportation for 2 /3:1/3 aid to purchase three buses for
an approximate cost of $90,000 to expand the bus service in the area.
Further brief discussion followed.
Upon the call of the vote:
AYE:
NAY:
Lentsch; Lone; Parkinson; Touchton; Woods
Carlson
The motion carried.
V. NORTHWEST ENGLEWOOD
Mr. Rhodus-Mr. Mock
REZONING
R-1-C to R-2-B
CASE #33-68A
Mr. Rhodus and Mr. Mock were present to discuss their progress in circulating petitions asking
the City to initiate rezoning of the residential area from R-1-C to R-2-B. Mr. Rhodus stated
that they were not able to get 100% to sign the petitions, but the majority of the residents
are in favor of the change. They also want the minimum floor area of 720 sq. ft., rather
than the permitted 650 sq. ft. in the R-2-B Zone. Mr. Mock stated that in the area north of
Iliff, he found that some of the people would not sign the covenant agreement, which is
separate from the rezoning petition, but did want the R-2-B zoning. Discussion followed.
It was suggested that possibly in the revision of the Zoning Ordinance the minimum floor
area could be raised to the 720 sq. ft., which would solve the problem for these residents.
Parkinson moved:
Lentsch seconded: The Planning Commission accept the petitions and the matter be tabled
for further consideration when the revision of the Zoning Ordinance is
brought before the Commission.
The motion carried unanimously.
VI. OLIVER D. SIDEBOTTOM ,
3500 S. Clarkson -
S. Emerson
REZONING
R-2-B to R-3-B
CASE #40-68
Mrs. Romans stated that an application for rezoning of the 3500 block of South Clarkson,
east side, and 3500 block South Emerson, west side, with the exception of the 100 ft. strip
of B-2 zoning along Hampden Avenue has been filed by a Mr. Oliver Sidebottom, and other
property owners. They are reqµesting a change from R-2-B to R-3-B.
Parkinson moved:
Lone seconded: The application filed by Mr. Sidebottom et. al. for the rezoning of
Lots 5 thru 46, Block 4, Higgins South Broadway Heights, for change
of zoning from R-2-B (Two-family residential) to R-3-B (Multi-family
residential) be accepted, public hearing date set for December 18, 196~
and the property is to be posted, and public notice to be given in the
official city newspaper.
The motion carried unanimously.
VII. CAREY SITE COURT DECISION.
Mrs. Romans reported that the Court suit filed against the City and Security Life by opponents
of the R-3-A zoning on the site had been decided in the favor of the City.
VIII. COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.
Mr. Lone reported that the application of the City of Englewood for approval in the change
of location for Centennial Park had received a favorable vote.
Lentsch moved:
Touchton seconded: The meeting be adjourned.
The motion carried, and the meeting was adjourned at 10:50 P.M.
Gertrude G. Welty
Recording Secretary
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MEMORANDUM TO THE ENGLEWOOD CITY COUNCIL REGARDING ACTION OR RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY
PLANNING AND -ZONING COMMISSION.
DATE: November 6, 1968
SUBJECT: Annexation of Baptist Theological Seminary Land
RECOMME;NDATION:
Lone moved: The Planning Commission recommend to City Council that favorable con-
sideration be given to any petition for annexation submitted by the
Baptist Theological Seminary for the 12+ acres at the northwest corner
of University Boulevard and Highway #70.
The motion was seconded, and carried unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
By Order of the City Planning
and Zoning Commission.
Gertrude G. Welty
Recording Secretary
MEMORANDUM TO THE ENGLEWOOD CITY COUNCIL REGARDING ACTION OR RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
DATE: November 6, 1968
SUBJECT: Application for Federal Aid -Bus Route
RECOMMEND'.ATION:
Parkinson moved:
Touchton seconded: The Planning Commission recommend that the City make application to the
Department of Transportation for 2 /3:1/3 aid to purchase three buses for
an approximate cost of $90,000 to expand the bus service in the area.
Upon the call of the vote:
AYE:
NAY:
Lentsch; Lone; Parkinson; Touchton; Woods
Carlson
The motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
By Order of the City Planning
and Zoning Commission.
Gertrude G. Welty
Recording Secretary
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I. CALL TO ORDER.
CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
November 20, 1968
The Regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at 8:10
P.M. by Chairman Woods.
Members present: Carlson; Lentsch; Lone; Parkinson; Woods
Romans, Ex-officio
Members absent: Touchton
Also present: City Attorney Criswell
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
Chairman Woods stated that the Minutes of November 6, 1968, were to be considered for
approval ..
Lentsch moved:
Carlson seconded: The Minutes of November 6, 1968, be approved as written.
The motion carried unanimously.
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