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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1968-12-04 PZC MINUTESPage 1110 MEMORANDUM TO THE ENGLEWOOD CITY COUNCIL REGARDING ACTION OR RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. DATE: November 20, 1968 SUBJECT: Zoning of Kent Village Site RECOMMENDATION: Parkinson moved: Lone seconded: The Planning Commission recommend to City Council that the Kent Village site be zoned R-3-B (Multi-family Residential), inasmuch as it is the only zone classification in the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance which allows the use which exists and which is contemplated to be built. The motion carried unanimously. Respectfully submitted, By Order of the City Planning and Zoning Commission. Gertrude G. Welty Recording Secretary * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I. CALL TO ORDER. CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION December 4, 1968 The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at 8:05P .M. by Chairman Woods. Members present: Carlson, Lentsch, Lone, Touchton, Woods Romans, Ex-officio Members absent: Parkinson Also present: Public Works Director Waggoner; Traffic Engineer Hammond; Parks and Recreation Director Romans; Mr. & Mrs. Melvin Scott; and Mr. Leo Scherrer. II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES. Mr. Woods stated that the minutes of the meeting of November 20th were to be considered for approval. Carlson moved: Lone seconded: The Minutes of November 20, 1968 be approved as written. The motion carried unanimously. III. WILBUR WRIGHT Lots 11-19, Block 15, Jackson's Broadway Heights. REZONING R-1-C to R-3-B CASE # 43-68A 11/20 /68 Mr. Woods stated that Mr. Wright had filed a rezoning application for the properties at 4050 -4070 South Bannock Street. He is requesting a change of zoning from R-1-C (Single-family Residential) to R-3-B (Multi-family Residential) to permit an apartment house on this site. Mr. Wright stated that he has Lots 11 thru 19, Block 15, Jackson's Broadway Heights, under option. He has contacted the two property owners south of this property, and they have signed a petition asking that their property be rezoned to R-3-B also. Mr. Wright presented petitions from Ms. Barbara Bush, owner of property at 4090 South Bannock, and Mr. Mr. and Mrs. T. A. Kermmoade, owners of property at 4080 South Bannock Street. Mr. Wright pointed out that the addition of these two properties makes his proposal contiguous with Mr. Collier's rezoning application across Oxford Avenue on the Hawthorne School site. Mr .. Wright stated he was unaware of the Commission policy to hold quarterly rezoning hearings, and asked that the date be earlier than March, if possible. Mr. Lone commented that if this would be a step forward in cleaning up the property Mr. Wright has under option, he would favor holding a hearing earlier than in March. Lone moved: Carlson & Touchton seconded: The Planning Commission accept the rezoning application filed by Mr. Wright for change of zoning from R-1-C (Single-family Residential) to R-3-B (Multi-family Residential) for Lots 11 thru 23, Block 15, Jackson's Broadway Heights. The Public Hearing date be set for January 22, 1969, and the property is to be posted and public notice given in the official city newspaper. The motion carried unanimously. I I I I I I Page 1111 Mr.Parkinson entered and took his place with the Commission. IV. TRAFFIC PATTERN Mr. Woods stated that Mr. Waggoner and Mr. Hammond were present to discuss the traffic pattern as had been requested by the Commission members. Mr. Woods stated that as a re- sponse to Mr. Waggoner's memo of November 15, 1968, in regard to the necessity of retaining the islands at Elati and Cherokee Streets on Floyd Avenue, letters with enclosed reply post cards were sent to property owners in the 3100 and 3200 blocks on both streets, asking whether they wished the islands to be retained or removed, and why. He pointed out that some property owners did not reply, but that the results of the poll were as follows: On Elati Street, 16 property owners asked that the island be retained; three asked that it be removed, and 18 did not reply. On Cherokee Street, 17 property owners asked that the island be retained; 12 asked that it be removed, and 15 did not reply. Mr. Waggoner commented that he has seen residents of the area go around the islands and park in front of their homes. He stated that he did not feel you could look only at four blocks and leave the islands in if those people so wished; but that the City had to look at the entire traffic picture. He commented that possibly the Police Department should start giving tickets and enforce the purpose of the islands. He stated that the Post Office has complained that the islands hinder efficient mail delivery, and that people have been in the Public Works office complaining about the islands. He also pointed out that the one-way pattern has been started in the City, and that the Traffic Department is planning to extend it. He stated that inasmuch as Bannock is one-way southbound, the people living in southwest Englewood do not have a northbound through street that extends from Belleview to Yale west of Broadway. He stated that there were several streets that could be developa:l to serve as major traffic carriers. He stated that Delaware had only two blocks left to pave, but that it could serve even though Delaware deadends at Kenyon. He felt that traffic could be diverted either to Elati or Cherokee Streets at Kenyon. On these two streets, there are lights to cross the Highway, and either of these streets could carry the traffic north to Yale were the islands at West Floyd Avenue to be removed. It was pointed out that South Fox is already designated as a collector in the Master Street Plan between Belleview and Highway #70. Mr. Scherrer 3265 South Cherokee -stated that everyone concerned should have realized when the islands were installed that the idea was to "stop tra f fie", and that people should have known the traffic would increase before the park was sold. He stated that he does not find it inconvenient to get to his home from the south, and that there would be more objection from the resi- dents if the island is .removed and the traffic is doubled. A question was asked as to the possible timing on the extension of the one-way pattern. Mr. Waggoner stated that a definite timing on the one-way street extension could not be given; there are two blocks on the north-south pattern that will have to be paved to accommodate the one-way extension, and if they are not paved in the 1969 paving district, the pattern cannot be extended until later. Mr. Lone mentioned that there had been some discussion on changing the direction of the pattern if Cherokee is used as a couplet with Bannock, i.e., making Bannock northbound and Cherokee southbound. He asked if any thought had been given to this proposal? It was pointed out that the normal flow would be for Bannock Street to be northbound and for Cherokee, were it to be the reciprocal street, to be southbound. Mr. Waggoner stated that he feels the one-way pattern we have presently will work, but t hat if a couplet is developed west of Broadway there must also be one east of Broadway; he felt this would have to be Logan Street in conjunction with South Sherman Street. Logan would normally be northbound and South Sherman Street southbound. Mr. Parkinson asked if the Public Works Department felt the designation of one-way streets was a part of the Master Street Plan or a function of the Traffic Engineer? Mr. Waggoner stated that the Traffic Engineer designated the one-way pattern, but felt that there should be close cooperation between the Planning Department and the Traffic Engineer. Mr. Parkinson commented that he felt the two blocks on either side of Colfax that are one-way couplets are ideal, and stated he felt that this situation is comparable to Broadway in Englewood. Mr. Parkinson asked if it would be a major item of expense to add to the one-way system, and to reverse it on Bannock and Sherman? This would make Bannock and Logan one-way north- bound, and Sherman and Cherokee one-way southbound. Mr. Waggoner stated that all signals would have to be reversed and poles would have to be set on opposite corners of the inter- sections; a rough estimate would be $50,000. He commented that he didn't feel Cherokee was a good traveling street because it is so hilly. Discussion followed. Mr. Hammond stated that it was his opinion the islands should be removed to facilitate the movement of traffic and not hinder traffic. He stated that the purpose of a street is to move traffic even if it is a "local" street. Mr. Scherrer stated that when the homes were built in that area, it was called "Park Addition", and was a quiet area. He stated that they attempted to retain the park, but it was sold, and agreements with the City and residents north of Floyd were made in an attempt to keep the area a quiet residential area. He stated he realized the agreements were not binding, but felt they should be honored. The matter of South Elati Street being "opened up" by the North Elementary School was dis- cussed. Mr. Carlson stated that it has been proven that when schools are located on traffic arteries, that the traffic can be better controlled and the children are safer crossing those heavily traveled streets close to the school than they are crossing a quiet residential street some distance from the school where there is little or no control on the motorist. Mr. Lone pointed out that most of the Englewood Schools are on major traffic carriers. Page 1112 Mrs. Scott 3231 S. Elati -stated that they would like to see the island at Elati retained. She gave the following reasons for the retention of the island: (1) to re- move it would increase traffic; she feels there is enough traffic now coming from Dartmouth through and cited the situation which existed during construction of the center and before the island was constructe~ when people who had front drives were hesitant to back out because of the heavy traffic. (2) More traffic will mean more maintenance and the property owners will be required to finance the resurfacing. She pointed out that the area was a quiet residential area when they built their home, and they had planned to retire there, but have other plans since the center has opened. (3) The North School is already on one heavily traveled street --Dartmouth Avenue --and she feels that this one street is enough without having to worry about Elati Street. Discussion followed. Mrs. Romans · pointed out that four or five years ago, the couplets of Sherman-Logan and Cherokee-Bannock were recommended in the Master Street Plan by the Planning Staff, but the Planning Commission at that time did not go along with the plan. Further discussion followed. Mr. Waggoner noted that the original design for the island at Elati showed a larger island than what was built. The developer had started to put the larger island in, but did not own the corner property, and the island could not be put in as it s hould have been and as a result, it is very easy for southbound traffic to go around the island. Mr. Woods thanked Mr. Waggoner and Mr. Hammond for attending the meeting to discuss the matter with the Commission. V. FEDERAL AID FOR GOLF COURSE -PARK COMPLEX Mr. Romans, Parks and Recreation Director, was present to discuss an application for federal aid for land acquisition and development of a golf course--park complex by McLellan Dam. He stated that he feared that our chances of getting federal aid were not good, because one department of the City is purchasing the land from another City department; therefore, he has tried to put together a golf course-park complex oriented toward water recreation. They are proposing purchase of approximately 200 acres for this development. He stated that a "rolling" terrain is necessary for a golf course; more golfers can play, and the revenues are increased. Mr. Romans stated that the total cost for land acquisition and development is estimated to be approximately $1,289,000. They are asking for $534,000 in federal aid, and will ask for 1 /3 in 1969, 1 /3 in 1970, and another 1 /3 in 1971. He pointed out that the total grants to Colorado do not exceed $600,000. He pointed out that the City could not obtain a 50-50 participation grant because there are some items that grants are not approved for, such as for a club house. A club house is planned for this area at a cost of approximately $60,000. Discussion followed. Mr. Romans pointed out that the club house at Kennedy Golf Course cost approximately $250,000 to build, which figure does include the restaurant in the building. He stated that the house which is owned by Kamphouser would be ideal for a club house, but would cost probably $80,000. Mr. Romans was asked if any other municipalities had obtained funds for golf courses? He replied that Colorado Springs had received $249,000 for the Patty Jewett Course; this was for development costs. Adams City received money for develop- ment costs and for park adjoining it. It was then suggested that the City should possibly apply for assistance thru several agencies. Mr. Romans pointed out that there are restrictions on applications which are filed --you cannot file an application for the same project with more than one agency at the same time. He stated that HUD would finance the purchase of the land, and the Water Conservation Agency would finance the development. Mr. Romans pointed out that there is not a golf course in Arapahoe County, and that Englewood is the only city of its size that does not have a municipal golf course. Further discussion followed. Touchton moved: Lone seconded: The Planning Commission approve the application for Federal Aid for land acquisition and developme~t of a golf course and park complex at McLellan Dam. The Planning Commission is charged with the responsibility of health and welfare of its citizens, and it is felt that this request is compatible with that responsibility. The motion carried unanimously. VI. FLOYD AVENUE PLANTING STRIP Mrs. Romans read a memorandum from Parks Director Romans which states that the Floyd Avenue parkway planting strip has been completed to his satisfaction. It was the concensus of the Commission that the City Attorney be notified that the planting has been completed to the specifications set forth by Parks Director Romans. VII. FUTURE MEETINGS Mrs. Romans reminded Commission members of the December 18th meeting, and suggested that they cour the specific areas prior to that evening and become familiar with the sites. She suggested that possibly they could meet the morning of December 7th, at the Village Inn Pancake House for breakfast at 6:30 A.M. and go on the tour from there. This was confirmed by the members of the Commission. It was noted that the First National Bank of Englewood had agreed to provide their Horsecar Bus for the tour. Members were also reminded of the luncheon to be sponsored by the Denver Planning Department at the Denver Hilton on Friday, December 6th. Reservations have been made for Mr. Woods, Mr. Lone, and Mr. Touchton to attend this luncheon. I I I I I I Page 1113 VIII. BAPTIST THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY Annexation CASE #37-68A 11 /6 /68 Mrs. Romans reported that the annexation petition for the Baptist Theological Seminary has been accepted and found to be in order by the City Council. IX. TRAFFIC PATTERN -FLOYD AVENUE ISLANDS Discussion of the islands in Floyd Avenue followed. Mrs. Romans stated that Public Works Director Waggoner had asked in his memo for a recommendation from the Planning Commission, as to whether the islands should be retained or removed. The Director stated that because of the location of North Elementary School, she would at this time, have to oppose the removal of the "island" at West Floyd Avenue and South Elati Street. Discussion followed. Parkinson moved: Touchton seconded: The Planning Commission recommend to City Council that the Floyd Avenue Agreement be amended to permit the removal of the island at Cherokee Street for the following reasons: (1) There have been a number of requests from persons living in the area who feel it is not necessary and is inconvenient. (2) The Planning Department sent a letter to property owners in the 3100 and 3200 blocks of South Cherokee asking their feelings on the island; 17 cards were returned stating that the island should be retained, 12 cards were returned asking that the island be removed, and 15 persons did not reply, indicating they did not feel strongly about the matter. (3) To promote the most orderly movement of traffic in the City, it is necessary that Cherokee Street be opened. The motion carried unanimously. It was moved, seconded and carried that the meeting be adjourned. The meeting adjourned at 9:45 P.M. Gertrude G. Welty Recording Secretary MEMORANDUM TO THE ENGLEWOOD CITY COUNCIL REGARDING ACTION OR RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. DATE: SUBJECT: RECOMMENDATION: Parkinson moved: Touchton seconded: December 4, 1968 Island at West Floyd Avenue and South Cherokee Street. The Planning Commission recommend to City Council that the Floyd Avenue Agreement be amended to permit the removal of the island at Cherokee Street for the following reasons: (1) There have been a number of requests from persons living in the area who feel it is not necessary and is inconvenient. (2) The Planning Department sent a letter to property owners in the 3100 and 3200 blocks of South Cherokee asking their feelings on the island; 17 cards were returned stating that the island should be retained, 12 cards were returned asking that the island be re- moved, and 15 persons did not reply, indicating they did not feel strongly about the matter. (3) To promote the most orderly movement of traffic in the City, it is necessary that Cherokee Street be opened. The motion carried unanimously. Respectfully submitted, By Order of the City Planning and Zoning Commission. Gertrude G. Welty Recording Secretary * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *