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I. CALL TO ORDER.
CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
JULY 10, 1968
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The meeting was called to order by Chairman Woods at 8:10 P.M.
Members present: Carlson; Lone; Touchton; Parkinson; Woods
Romans, Ex-officio
Criswell, City Attorney
Members absent: Lentsch
Also present: City Manager Dial, Assistant Manager Mack, Public Works Director Waggoner, ·
Parks Director Romans, Fire Chief Sovern, Police Chief Clasby.
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II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
Mr. Woods stated the Minutes of June 26, 1968, were to be considered for approval.
Parkinson moved:
Lone seconded: The Minutes of June 26, 1968, be approved as written.
The motion carried unanimously.
III. ROBERT W. PORTER
3100-3200 Blocks
S. Clarkson St.
REZONING
R-1-C to R-3-B
CASE #15-68B
June 26, 1968
May 1, 1968
Mr. Woods stated that this case had been tabled for further study and consideration at the
meeting of June 26, and that if the Commission wished to discuss the matter at this meeting,
it would have to be removed from the table.
Parkinson moved:
Lone seconded: Case #15-68 be removed from the table.
The motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Woods stated that the Commission members have discussed this case informally, and have
viewed the site. He asked if any members had any questions they wished to have answered?
Mrs. Romans pointed out for the benefit of the applicant and the citizens of the area who
were present that if the Commission did recommend the rezoning be approved, there would
automatically ~e a hearing held before the City Council; however, if the Commission should
decide that the rezoning should not be approved, the applicant, Mr. Porter, does have the
right of appeal to the City Council .
Mr. Lone asked that the area be indicated on the map. Mrs. Romans pointed the area, the 3100
and 3200 blocks of South Clarkson, out on the map, and stated that this would be an extension
of the R-3-B zoning to the south of East Floyd Avenue along both sides of South Clarkson .
Street from Floyd Avenue north to Dartmouth Avenue.
Further discussion followed.
Lone moved:
Parkinson seconded: The request made by Mr. Robert Porter for a change of zoning in the 3100
and 3200 blocks of South Clarkson from R-1-C (single-family) to R-3-B
(multi-family) be denied for the following reasons:
1) it has not been shown that . ther~ have been substantial changes in
the character of the area to warrant the change of zone classification;
2) it has not been shown that there have been changes in the adjacent
area to pre c lude the use of this property as single-family residential;
3) there are now areas zoned R-1 south of Floyd Avenue between the
Logan-Grant alley and South Pearl Street, which have been under con-
sideration for higher density, which, because of their close proximity
to the core area, would be more ideally located for multi-family use;
4) The areas both within and adjacent to the core area that are now
developed with substandard housing should be redeveloped before considc a-
t~on is given to extending multi-family zoning into neighborhoods developed
with single-family uses, such as the area under consideration in the re-
quest, inasmuch as at this time there are only 2 vacant parcels in the
area that could be developed for multi-family use;
5) there is consi~erable land now zoned for multiple-housing, excludi~
the Carey site, that is yet undeveloped with multiple-housing units ~
There are 160 acres of land, excluding the Carey site, within the City
that is now zoned for apartment usage, yet only 10% of that land is used
as such.
The vote was called; Mr. Touchton stated that inasmuch as he dip not attend the Public Hearing,
he would abstain from voting.
AYES: Carlson; Lone; Parkinson; Woods
NAYS: None
ABSTAINING: Touchton
ABSENT: Lentsch
The motion carried.
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IV. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM 1969-1975
Mr. Mack, Assistant to the City Manager, reviewed the City Charter requirement that the Planning
Commission submit a list of Capital Improvements, arranged in order of Priority, to the Cify
Manager covering projects they feel are needed for the proper development of the City. After
review of the Commission's recommendation, the Manager makes a recommendation to the City
Coun cil for inclusion in the budget. He stated that the Capital Improvement requests contained
in the booklet before the Commission do not include anything from the Water and Sewer Depart-
men t . He stated that there also is not included in the booklet the $50,000 which is allotted
towa rd th e 5-year park replacement program. He pointed out that next year is the last year
f o r thi s allottment. Mr. Woods asked what has been completed from the 1968 recommendations?
Mr. Mack stated that the paving program, sidewalk replacement program, and signal programs
are well under-way. It was decided that perhaps a delay should be approved on the recommended
bridge at Lincoln and Dry Creek until a decision is reached .on the proposed interchange at
Highway 70 and Broadway. If an interchange is approved, this property would be included and
the bridge would not be needed. Mr. Lone asked why there were no requests from the water and
sewer Department? Mr. Mack stated there was a time element involved, and they could not g et
their requests completed. He stated that next year they would have them included.
Mr. Woods asked Chief Clasby to discuss his request, which is the relocation of the Police
S t ation and an Emergency Operating Center to an area in the City Hall. Chief Clasby stated
that their proposal combined the Police operation and the Civil Defense operation, and the
area may be used for a fall-out shelter as well as for the usual police department functio n s.
Chief Clasby stated that the department has outgrown their present facilities, and that the
activities and the responsibilities of the department have greatly increased. He stated that
the office space is extremely limited and that the jail facilities and restroom facilities
are inadequate. A committee from the Chamber of Commerce has studied the situation, and
has also recommended that the Police-Emergency Operating Center be located in the warehouse
area in City Hall. The estimated cost for the remodeling to accommodate this use is $175,000.
The proposed use would include a firing range and jail facilities. He pointed out that at
the present time, they have only two jail cells, and that they cannot house male and female
prisoners at the same time, nor can they house young prisoners with adults. They now transport
all suspects to the County Jail in Littleton; not only does this take considerable time , but ·
the police personnel must then travel to Littleton for any further questioning of the suspects.
Mr. Touchton commented that he felt the estimated cost o f $175,000 is rather high for re-
modeling ; he asked if there was a possibility of any federal aid? Chie f Clasby stated that
this figure did not consider any federal aid. Mr. Carlson asked what equipment would be
included? Chief Clasby stated there would be provision for standby power, furnishings,
training area, and gun range. He pointed out that this cost estimate was a "preliminary
estimate." Mr. Parkinson asked if the Chief felt that this proposed housing for the Police
Departmentt would be sufficient for an indefinite period of time? Chief Clasby replied that
he did not forsee many additional administrative personnel; most of the additional per-
sonnel would be the officers, which would be out on the streets. He stated that additional
personnel had been requested in the general budget.
Mr. Dial stated that the figures listed on this estimate are nearly one year old. He pointed
out that the Emergency Operating Center has features which are a necessity in a police de-
partment facility, whether the Emergency Operating Center is included or not, and it was
felt it would be better to have the complete operation. He stated that approximately $87 ,000
would be for the police department facilities, and $83,000 would be for the emergency operating
center. He stated that of the latter figure, between $18,000 to $20,000 could be eliminatEd
and they could build only what is needed now. Mr. Parkinson asked what could be built for
the $87,000? Mr. Dial replied that the entire emergency operating function would be lost ,
and that the City could not consider only the $87,000 ; the minimum consideration must be
close to $150,000. Mr. Dial stated that on the Emergency Operating Center, there is a slight
chance of obtaining Federal aid, which would come close to $40,000. Chief Clasby stated that
an application to Civil Defense for funds had been submitted and approved for the study. Phase
II and ·Phase III, the design and construction phases ; are still outstanding.
Mr. Dial discussed the methods of financing the new police facilities that had been considered
and stated that the subcommittee of councilmen appointed by Council had felt this was the most
appropriate way to handle the financing. Mr. Lone asked if there were room for expansion in
the proposed area? Mr. Dial replied that it might be expanded northward to the east end of
the Library. The area now used for Civil Defense could also be devoted to police department
functions.
Mr. Woods thanked Chief Clasby for his presentation; he then asked Public Works Director
Waggoner to present his requests in the Capital Improvements Program.
Mr. Waggoner discussed the proposed traffic divider in the 3400 block of South Broadway.
Due to the installation of the one-way street pattern on Girard Avenue and Hampden Avenue,
the necessity for left-turning lanes has been obviated, leaving an extra lane . It is in
this space that the traffic divider, to be constructed of "pin-down" curbing, is proposed.
This area would be landscaped, and street lighting facilities would be installed in it also.
Mr. Lone asked if this wasn't proposed to the City Council some months ago, and asked why there
was a difference in the cost estimates? Mr. Waggoner stated that the first proposal didn't
encompass as much as the current proposal, and that at that time it was assumed that the
merchants in the 3400 block would contribute to the landscaping. Mr. Dial commented that the
possibility of participation by the merchants seemed very unlikely, and added that this is
based upon the maintenance being carried out by the City. Mr. Parkinson suggested that a
sprinkling system be considered in this area if it were to be landscaped.
Mr. Waggoner then discussed the paving district, and stated that since 1956 , with the exception
of one year, 1967, the city has had a paving district . He stated there are still numerous
streets within the city in need of paving, and if $90,000 to $100,000 per year could be budgeted
for the next five to six years, this would pave about 30 blocks per year, and would be a big
step toward total paving throughout the City. He pointed out that this $90,000 is only the
"city share" --the paving of intersections, etc. The remainder of the costs are assessed
to the adjoining property owners.
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Mr. Waggoner stated that he had no particular location in mind at this time for the storm
sewer request. A study by Hoskins and Associates in 1961 showed that the City was in need
of a total storm sewer system, and that the cost would be approximately $2,500,000. This
figure does not include any maintenance or beautification of the Little Dry Creek drainage
channel. The work to be done with the money requested will be based on the Hoskins study.
Mr. Waggoner stated that if $400,000 per year could be allotted toward the storm sewer system,
a major portion of the system could be completed within five to six years. Mr. Carlson asked
if consideration was being given to surface drainage or to underground drainage? Mr. Wag goner
stated that they would carry surface drainage until the curbs and gutters were full, and then
take it underground; he felt more drainage could be carried underground. Mr. Carlson stated
he would like the City to consider a "park" drainage system that could serve two purposes --
park and drainage. In cases of a cloud burst, after the debris was cleaned up, the City
would still have a park area . A metro-wide storm sewer system was discussed. Mr. Waggoner
stated that the Denver Regional Council of Governments is working toward an overall storm
sewer system, but the end results are still approximately two years off. This study is only
to enable the participating municipalities to obtain matching funds from the federal govern-
ment.
Mr. Waggoner discussed the Sidewalk Replacement Program. He .stated that this program was
initiated this year, and that his department is now getting a good start on it. The 1968
program allottment was $10,000, and .this has enabled them to do about 7 blocks of sidewalk
replacement in the older parts of town. The costs of this program are assessed to the
property owners to be repaid within a five year period. This will be a revolving fund, and
Mr. Waggoner feels that after it really gets started, that it should be very worthwhile, a
he would hope the program could be continued.
Combined shop facilities for the street department, traffic department, and parks shop were
then discussed. These departments at present operate independently of each other, and it is
felt that with all departments working together there will be a savings in efficiency , etc.
Mr. Waggoner stated that the present facilities of all shops are completely inadequate. He
stated that these facilities will be even more necessary if the police department moves into
the City Hall, as this is the area where the Parks and Traffic departments are presently
housed. Also, when the interchange is constructed at Broadway and Highway 70, it will take
the land on which ,the street shop is presently located. Mr. Waggoner stated this use could
be in conjunction with the central garage and storage shops. Mr. Lone asked how much was
available toward the central garage fund at the present time? Mr. Dial replied there was
$83,000+ in the present fund. Mr. Waggoner stated the requested $177,000 is in addition to
the $83,000 in the fund. This would include one building of 9,000 sq. ft. for the central
garage; one building of 9,000 sq. ft. for the shop areas, and one building of 16,000 sq. ft.
for the storage of equipment.
Mr. Waggoner stated that the signals requested in the Capital Improvements Budget are in
addition to the traffic signals which are now being installed. These are replacement signals
for the signals along Broadway and Logan th~t are not in the program this year. Also in-
cluded are additional school signals; the entire signalization program was begun several
years ago, and should be completed with the proposed installations.
The Public Works Department is requesting $10,000 for acquisition of right-of-way. Mr.
Waggoner stated he felt it would be wise to possibly stay a little "ahead" in this particular
matter, and thereby possibly avoid condemnation suits and court suits.
Mr. Waggone~ discussed the West Union
it was budgeted for in 1968, the City
companies have been hesitant to issue
Columbine Freeway is still uncertain.
action of the City.
Avenue realignment request. He stated that though
did not pursue the matter, inasmuch as the railroad
any more crossing permits, and the location of the
Both these situations have had an effect on the
Mr. Waggoner discussed the cleaning of Little Dry Creek. The last time this was done for
even a portion of the Creek was in 1960 or 1961. He stated this needs to be done from
Clarkson Street to the conduit at South Bannock. Mr. Touchton asked why this wasn't budgeted
as a maintenance cost in the general fund rather than under the capital improvement program?
Mr. Dial stated that he would be inclined to agree that the general fund maintenance would
be the proper place for this item.
Bridges over the Little Dry Creek at South Platte River Drive, Clarkson and Lincoln were
discussed. Mr. Waggoner stated that the br.idge at Lincoln had been given no priority be-
cause of the indefinite status of the interchange at Broadway and Highway 70. The other
two are needed, and would be "box" structures.
Mr. Woods thanked Mr. Waggoner for his presentation. He asked Parks Director Romans to
discuss his requests in the Capital Improvements Program.
Mr. Romans emphasized that the "estimates" are indeed just "est ima tes't . ·Mr. Romans also
submitted a list of Capital Improvements requests that are under $10,000 which were not in-
cluded in the document sent to the Commission by City Manager Dial. Mr. Romans stated that
the priorities set forth in the .document were set by the Parks and Recreation Commission, but
pointed out that the Commission had not really considered the matter of the golf course and
the proposed "greenbelt" in Northwest Englewood. He stated that there are four areas under
consideration for the golf course: 1) Northwest Englewood; 2) the Ausfahl property in
southwest Englewood; 3) McLelland Reservoir, and 4) the Hayutin property by the Englewood
Dam. He stated that the fourth property looks like a good location for a golf course, but
questioned whether or not the property could be purchased at a reaso n able price. Mr. Romans
pointed out that a golf course would take care of its own maintena n ce cos t s.
Mr. Romans discussed the top priority listed by the Parks Commission, th e developmertt of
Belleview Park. He stated that this .area is in the middle part of Belleview, and that they
need additional grassed area there. He stated that the shelter house r equested for Centennial
Park should instead be considered for Jason Park. He stated the development of a "greenbelt"
in Northwest Englewood along the "draw" south of Vassar would be an asset to that particular
area of the City. He then discussed the Tot-Lot proposed for a 50 ft. lot west of Maddox
School. This property was given to the school district several years ago, a n d must be used
for school or recreational purposes. This lot would be developed for little c hildren --
~toddlers'' --and older kids would not be allowed. There would be spe c ial play equipment
installed, and benches would be provided for the mothers of the children. Mr.· Romans then
discussed the requested ball field in Northwest Englewood. Scenic View does not have a ball
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field at the present time, and numerous requests are made every year for such a facility.
Mr. Romans stated that, as proposed, it would be unlighted, and would not be grassed. He
stated the Bates-Logan Park is in need of expansion, and that this will entail the removal
of four houses. He stated that he does not feel that this is a top priority item. Mr.
Romans stated that there are not ehough ball fields to meet the demand, and if the one .at
the High School were lighted, it would enable people to use it for both daytime and night-
time games; it would .be a step in easing the demand for ball fields. Mr. Romans then reported
that bath .houses are needed at both the Sinclair Pool and the indoor pool at the High School.
However, M~. Romans stated that the bath house at the Sinclair Pool is needed much more
critically than tbe one at the indoor pool if funds cannot be appropriated at this time for
both locations.
Mr. Woods thanked .Mr. Romans for his presentation. He asked Chief Sovern for his presentation
on requests of the Fire Department.
Chief Sovern stated that the Fire Department had been at a standstill for some time as far
as facilities and equipment were concerned and that they now must catch up. He stated the
first priority was housing for the aerial equipment which is expected to be delivered some-
time within this year or the next. The estimate for construction is $15 per square foot.
The need for a training area for the firemen was discussed. Chief $overn pointed out that
there is no such area at the present time and that practice sessions are held either when
there happens to be a house that they can burn down, or when fire drills are held at schools.
This has not proven to be satisfactory. Chief Sovern stated that they would need three to .
five acres for this training area.
Chief Sovern stated that Station #2, located at Quincy and Pearl, needs to be relocated to
the Centennial Acres area. The area presently covered by Station #2 can be adequately served
by Station #1 and Station #3. He pointed out that there is no station located in the sout~
western .part of the City across Santa Fe and the Railroad tracks, and that the tracks present
a hazard in answering a call in that area.
There is a need for additional pumpers for the Fire Department .. With the additiqn of tbe
shopping center, a high risk area, .the Department needs additional equipment, and Chief
Sovern stated that two pumpers, 12o0 gallon capacity, would bring the department up to the
required standards. He stated they have five pumpers at the present time.
The Department is requesting a :formal fire alarm system; the Chief pointed out that this
could oe used for both the Fire and Police Departments with tbe proper equipment. It would
be a safeguard in the City, especially in the business districts, .inasmuch as the only
method of communication now is the telephone, and at night the business houses are closed.
Replacement of Station #4 at Zuni and Bates was discussed.· Chief Sovern stated that this
was built as a temporary station several years ago, but has not been upgraded. He stated
that it is a "tin shack" and does not provide good living quarters for the men stationed
there; he pointed out that this area is developing with some prime industrial uses, and he
feels that proper fire protection in that area is a necessity.
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The remodeling of the police station into facilities for the fire department was discussed.
Chief Sovern stated that he thought the study was based on minimal remodeling, and that the
police station would be used pretty much as it is now. Mr. Dial stated that the study was
based on using the entire upper floor of the fire station for dormitory space only, and
that the police station would be used for office space. There would be a direct connection
from the office area into the truck area.
Mr. Touchton asked about the two pumpers, which were requested. Mr. Sovern .stated that he
has asked for those to be delivered in 1970. He pointed out that at the present time, the
fire department may have several calls at the same time, and all pumpers will be out. Mr.
Lone asked about the agreements with Cherry Hills, and asked if we had similar agreements
with other municipalities? Chief Sovern replied there were reciprocal agreements with
Littleton, Sheridan, College View, and with Cherry Hills. There is also an agreement with
Denver.
Mr. Woods thanked Chief Sovern for his presentation.
Mr. Dial discussed the request of the Library Board. They would like to expand .the present
library facilities into the area immediately to the east of the library. A library conference
room is needed, and they would propose that part of this area be used for that purpose; also
some book storage is planned for the area. He pointed out that this is not the same area
that the police department is considering for their usage. Mr. Carlson asked if decentralization
of the library had been considered? He stated that in Denver they have library branches in
homes throughout the City. Mr. Dial stated he felt the bookmobile serves this purpose, and
was much more economical. Mr. Carlson pointed out that the bookmobile does not run in the
evening, and that there are residents who might be interested in visiting an "area" library
after dinner. Mr. Dial acknowledged that this was true, but pointed out that Littleton, for
one, spent a considerable amount of money on the sub-libraries. He stated he didn't think
this had been considered by the Englewood Library Board.
Mr. Dial asked the Commission to give a priority list of capital improvements projects for
not only 1969, but for a period of several years, which would be a goal for the City to work
toward. He acknowledged that it would be difficult to figure revenue, and asked that they
place emphasis not so much on money, but on the total program the City should work toward.
Mr. Woods asked members to review the list of requests, and to develop their own lists of
priorities, and bring them to the next meeting; the Commission will try to choose their
priority list from these indi victual lists. He tba.nked Mr. Dial and the Department Heads
for attending the meeting for this discussion.
V. OFF-STREET PARKING PLAN
3601 South Clarkson CASE #20.-68B
Mrs. Romans stated that nothing further has heen determined on the location of the curb
cuts to this sit~.
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VI. FLOYD AVENUE AGREEMENT
Mrs. Romans reported that Mr. Arthur Davis, Jr. has resigned as presiqent of New Englewood,
and that a Mr. Davey is now in that position. Because of this change, there has been no
further action on the landscaping of .the parkâ˘ay to this date.
VII. OLIVER KINGSLEY SUBDIVISION
W. Harvard -S. Tejon Street
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CASE #8-68B
Mrs. Romans stated that attorneys on this suit have been in touch with the Planning Depart-
ment. The attorney representing Mr. Gibbons, who bought the property Mr. Kingsley sold to
Mr. Potts, and the attorney representing the title company, have discussed the .matter with
Mrs. Romans. She pointed out that the City needs a 30 ft. dedication on West Baker, and has
mentioned this fact to the attorneys. She asked what the feelings of the Commission would
be if a waiver was applied for and the 30 ft. dedication was accomplished; would they still
feel that the suit should be pressed, or would this be satisfactory to them? Mr. Lone .asked
if this were the same property that was named in a suit against Mr. Kingsley in which he was
requested to clean up the property? Mr. Criswell stated that the court case names several
items, these two among them, but that they do not involve the same property. Mr. Criswell
stated that he felt Mr. Kingsley could comply .with the Subdivision Regulations as they re-
late to this property by filing a plat, or obtaining a waiver to the Regulations and that
the City could not refuse to act on this one matter until he cleaned up property at another
location.
VIII. FIRST NATIONAL BANK
Height Exception
CASE #25-68
Mrs. Romans ptated that the Chief Building Inspector has referred the matter of the height
exception for the First National Bank's proposed construction to the Planning Commission.
The plans were displayed; the building is located partially within the B-2 Zone District,
and partially withi n the I-1 Zone District. Discussion followed. It was suggested that
perhaps the Zoning Ord in ance should be amended to · include provisions to exceed the maximum
permitted height in the R-3-A, R-3-B, B-1, B-2 Zone Districts, and increase the permitted
gross floor area in the I-1 and I-2 Zone Districts; all provisions should read alike.
Touchton moved:
Lone seconded: The Zoning Ordinance be amended to provide for height exceptions when
approved by the Planning Commission and Council in the R-3-A, R-3-B,
B-1, B~2 Zone Districts, and to increase the gross floor area in the
I-1 and I-2 Zone Districts. Public Hearing on said amendment to be
held on July 31, 1968 .
The motion carried unanimously.
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It was moved, seconded, and carried that the meeting adjourn. Meeting was declared adjourned
at 11:35 P.M.
Gertrude G. Welty
Re cor ding Secretary
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I. CALL TO ORDER.
CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZO NING COMMISSION
JULY 17, 1968
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission .was called to order by Chairman
Woods at 7:20 P.M .
Members -present: Carlson; Lentsch; Touchton; Woods
Romans, Ex-officio
Members absent: Lone; Parkinson
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
Chairman Woods stated the Minutes of July 10, 1968 were to be considered for approval.
Lentsch moved:
Touchton seconded: The minutes of July 10, 1968, be approved as written.
The motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Parkinson entered and took his place with the Commission.
III. DR. FLOYD BRALLIAR
2800 Block S. Emerson
SUBDIVISION
Waiver
CASE #26-68
Mrs. Romans reviewed Dr. Bralliar's request of last year to have the portion of the 2800
block of South Emerson which lies south of the ditch vacated. The Commission recommended