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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1969-08-12 PZC MINUTESPage 1184 ATTEST: /SI Gertrude G. Welty Secretary I, Gertrude G. Welty, the duly appointed and acting Secretary of the Planning and Zoning Commission of the City of Englewood, Colorado 1 do hereby certify that the above and foregoing is a true, accurate and complete copy of a Resolution unanimously adopted by the said Planning and Zoning Commission at its meeting held on the 17th day of July, 1969. /S / Gertrude G. Welty The motion carried unanimously. Discussion of the provisions of the State Statute vs. the provisions of the City Charter followed in regard to the adoption of a Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Criswell noted that the State St~tutes places the responsibility for the adoption of a Master Plan or Comprehensive Plan on the Planning Commission, and that the City Charter places the final responsibility of approving the Plan upon the City Council. Further discussion followed. The Director asked the members of the Commission present and City Attorney Criswell if they would be able to attend a special meeting on August 12, 1969. It was indicated that insofar as they knew at that time, they would be able to do so. It was moved and seconded to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried. Members of the Commission would then attend the City Council meeting. Gertrude G. Welty Recording Secretary * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION August 12, 1969 I. CALL TO ORDER. The special meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order by Chairman Woods at 8:25 P.M. Members present: Carlson; Lentsch; Lone; Parkinson; Woods Romans, Ex-officio Members absent: Touchton II. COLUMBINE FREEWAY. Mr. Woods stated that the Planning Commission has been studying the proposed Columbine Free- way since it first came under consideration several years ago, and that it is his understanding that the City Council had indicated at their last meeting that they would like a recommendGr- tion from the Planning Commission as to the recommended location of the proposed Columbine Freeway. Mr. Lone questioned whether or not the City should discuss the matter with the "people involved" in the area, and mentioned the committee studying the proposal from the Chamber of Commerce. Mr. Woods noted that Mr. Lentsch had also suggested meeting with the Chamber of Commerce com- mittee. Mr. Lone noted that he felt we might present a more unified decision by including these com- mittee members. He stated that he knew that not everyone would agree on one route, but he didn't want to see several "factions" with different opinions present to the City Council. Mr. Touchton entered and took his place with the Commission. Mr. Lentsch commented that he felt the City should hear the committee of the Chamber; he noted that they have gone into extensive study on the matter. Mr. Lone commented that he felt a recommendation made by the Planning Commission at this time would be premature. Further discussion followed. The possibility of taking a citizen poll was discussed. Mr. Lone pointed out that the actual construction of the Columbine Freeway is a long time off, and that he felt we should get the thoughts of the people affected, con- sider their opinions, and then make our recommendation. Mr. Touchton pointed out that the Planning Commission has, on several occasions, heard presentations by the advocates of the western route, and by advocates of the eastern route, and that the Commission has studied ihe report prepared for the State Highway Department by Meurer, Serafini & Meurer, and he questioned that any one would be more qualified to make a recommendation right now than the Planning Commission. Mr. Carlson asked if we had received a formal request from the City Council to make a recom- mendation? Mr. Parkinson replied that he had stated to the Council, upon their query as to what the Planni~g ?ommission had done in regard to the Freeway, that he would bring the point before the Comm1ss1on. Mr. Lone commented that we should communicate to City Council that we are trying to gather information from all interested groups and that w -11 . the information at a future meeting. , e w1 consider I I I I I I Page 1185 Mr. Touchton commented that one study had been done at the direction of the State Highway Department, and one had been done for Mr. Von Frellick; he commented that if an independent study were done that several interesting things might come to light. Mr. Lone commented on the cost estimates presented on the Santa Fe alignment, which is favored by Mr. Von Frellick. Mr. Lone noted that ~hen the cost estimates of the freeway on this alignment to Belleview are added to the estimates from Belleview to County Line Road, that the Santa Fe Alignment will amount to $3,000,000 MORE than the western alignment, but that this fact is carefully avoided by advocates of the eastern alignment. The estimate of 35¢ a square foot for land to replace the railroad right-of-way was also pointed out as being extremely conservative, which cost would again increase the estimate set forth in Mr. Von Frellick's report. Discussion· followed. Mr. Parkinson commented that he understood from the various presentations the Planning Com- mission has attended that: (1) The standards of the freeway proposed on Santa Fe by Mr. Von Frellick's study will not be as high as those proposed for the western alignment in re- gard to median strip and width of lanes. (2) If the freeway is built on Santa Fe, we would lose the capacity of Santa Fe in addition to the capacity of the western route, thereby losing the ability to accommodate 35,000 cars per day. (3) We would not have the access into Englewood with the freeway on Santa Fe that we have now and would have with the western alignment for the freeway. Mr. Lentsch stated that he felt we had to look at the overall picture of what was good for the City, and consider whether the Santa Fe route would be adequate in 10 or 20 years. Mr. Lentsch also noted that the shoppers just will not travel a freeway; that freeways are fine for those going to and from work, but if we hoped to get more shoppers into Englewood, the freeway just isn't the way to do it. Mr. Lone agreed, and noted that you do not get "con- venience stops off a major freeway." Mr. Parkinson questioned whether it was a logical statement by advocates of the eastern . route that the hotel proposed for the Cinderella City shopping complex won't be built un- less the freeway is on Santa .Fe? Discussion followed. Mr. Lone commented that he discussed similar matters with an Englewood businessman who owns land in the industrial area to the south of the shopping center, and was told that several years ago this businessman had a hotel proposed for his site and was told there should be a freeway in the area --not on a particular street. He noted that the freeway would be in the area even on the western route, and that he didn't feel a mile or so made that much difference. Further discussion followed. It was the determination of the Planning Commission that a written communication should be made to City Council, indicating that we are in the process, of gathering information from groups who are interested in the location of the freeway, and that the matter will be con- sidered at a future meeting. It was also the determination of the Commission that Mr. Von Frellick's letter to Mr. Woods be answered, and so directed the Planning Director. III. APPROVAL OF CONDITIONAL USES, PARKING LOTS, ETC. Mrs. Romans discussed the time spent by the Planning staff and the Planning Commission in approving the various requests for conditional uses, parking layouts, and similar situations. Approval is sometimes given based on a specific area being used for parking for the use, or that other ordinances of the City be adhered to. Two cases in particular were cited by Mrs. Romans: the Continental National Bank, which parking layout was approved based on the property owned by the bank in the 3400 block of South Sherman Street being used for employee parking; and a mobile home park on South SantaFe, which was approved provided the Mobile Home Park Ordinance was followed. In the case of the Continental National Bank, they have apparently picked up additional parking in the 3400 block of South Bannock Street, and have made arrangements to sell the lot on South Sherman Street; however, no formal notification of a desire to relocate the employee parking lot has been made by the Bank to the Planning Commission. As to the trailer park, the Commission gave approval to Mr. Wayne Nelson on November 20, 1968, for a mobile home park provided the provisions of the Mobile Home Park Ordinance were followed. Under the Ordinance, it would be required that roads be improved, wash houses ready for use, etc. before spaces would be rented. Upon investigation, this was not the case, and Mr. Nelson had rented twelve spaces, without the roads being improved or the wash houses constructed. Mrs. Romans asked how a "follow through" on these uses could be made. She stated that the matter had been mentioned briefly at the Commission meeting last week, and that City Attorney Criswell had stated that in the case of the bank parking lot, if the action of the Commission had been recorded it might have been a way we could have guaranteed a "follow through". D:is - cussion followed. Commission members felt that we should find out whether or not the Bank has sold the land, or has merely offered it for sale, and determine whether or not alternate employee parking has been provided. Mr. Lone commented that possibly where there are conditions put upon an approval by the Com- mission, that a copy of these conditions should be filed with the Financing Company of the project. Discussion on rezoning cases followed. Several cases were noted where the rezoning has been approved, and the applicant has sold the land shortly thereafter. In some cases, no apparent attempt to develop the land has been made by the person applying for the rezoning once it has been granted. Discussion followed. -- -- ----- - - --- -- -- ---- - --- IV. COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE. Mrs. Romans discussed the revision of the zoning ordinance, in particular the percentage of lot coverage as set forth in the 1963 Ordinance. In the R-3-A and R-3-B Zone Districts, the lot coverage is limited to 30% and 35% respectively. It has been questioned by several people whether or not the new construction in these two districts does adhere to the 30% and 35% lot coverage. The question was raised as to whether or not in the revision of the Ordinance the ' Page 1186 present maximum percentage of lot coverage should be reduced, or whether it should be left as it is or even increased? Discussion followed. It .was suggested by the Commission members that a field check should be made on several locations to determine if the ordinance is be:in g followed, and if so, then the Commission will consider the percentage of lot coverage, and whether or not a change is necessary. Discussion followed. Mrs. Romans noted that she had . discussed the situation with the Public Works Director, and that he has stated he does not have the staff to make the field check. It was determined that possibly both of these matters should be reviewed with the City Attor n ey before any action is taken. -- - -- ---~ V . APPROVAL OF MINUTES. Chairman Woods stated that the Minutes of August 5, 1969 , were to be considered for approval. Parkinson moved: Lentsch seconded: The Minutes of August 5, 1969, be approved as written. The motion carried unanimously. VI. LITTLETON ZONING CASE. CASE #36-69 Mrs. Romans reported that the City of Littleton has a x ezoning request before it which is west of our City limits at South Elati Drive and south of West Belleview Avenue. The reques t is for R-5, (Multiple-family) and the Englewood citizens who live in t he area are very con- cerned. A couple of the residents have contacted Mayor Schwab, Mr. Dial , and the Planning Department, and Mr. Dial requested the Planning Director to attend the Public Hearing before the L it tleton Planning Commission when this matter was considered. Mrs. Romans stated that she did go to the Hearing and that she told the Littleton Planning Commission that the City of E ng lewood is interested in the matter , primarily because they a.re concerned about the traffic situation at Belleview and Huron Street. It would be in this vicinity where traffic from the proposed multi-family development would be exiting and where possible left-turns, and attempts to cut straight across Belleview to the north would be made. Discussion followed. Mr. Lone questioned whether the City of Englewood has any business stating that we do not like somethi ng that Littleton might be considering any more than, f or instance, Cherry Hills had telling u s they didn't like the zoning of the KLZ Site. He said he didn't think it was any of the City of Englewood's business. Further discussion followed. Mr. Parkinson noted that there wer e court cases wherein the decision was that properties that would be affected, whether i p t he City or outside of the City, had a right to object if their property was going to be ctlmaged by a change of zoning , etc. He also stated that he felt it was proper for the City officials to speak on the behalf of our citizens. Discussion followed. VII. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. Mrs. Romans noted that the article in the Englewood Herald on the Comprehensive Plan was ve ry much appreciated, and that some persons have come to the office to discuss the Plan in re g ard to their neighborhood as a result of this article. Lentsch moved: Lone seconded: The meeting be adjourned. The motion carried, and the meeting was adjourned at 9:50 P.M. Gertrude G. Welty Recording Secretary * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION September 3, 1969 I. CALL TO ORDER. The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commissi0n was called to order at 8:35 P. M. by Chairman Woods. Members present: Carlson; Lentsch; Touchton; Woods Members absent: Lone; Parkinson Romans , Ex-officio II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES. Mr. Woods stated that the Minutes of August 12, 1969, were to be considered for approval. Lentsch moved: Carlson seconded: The Minutes of A~gust 12, 1969, be approved as written. The motion carried unanimously . ---- --- - ---- - - - I I I