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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1969-11-18 PZC MINUTESPage 1206 the zoning Ordinance. A memorandum from Mrs. Romans and Mr. Waggoner to Mr. Dial was written, and Mr. Dial has indicated that he does not feel a "meeting" is necessary at this time, but that at such time the revision of the Ordinance is well underway, that a meeting might be more appropriate. In the meantime, Mr. Dial has .indicated that he will consider the matter and will take action on the memo in the near future. Mrs. Romans gave members a copy of a speech that was given by Mr. Sewell, from the HUD Office in Ft. Worth, Texas. She asked that the members please read this report in preparatton for discussion of the Workable Program. Mrs. Romans discussed an article which appeared in the Denver Post on October 19, which stated that the State of Colorado was to be divided into eight Planning Districts, and that information wa6 to be sent to the local Planning Agencies for their comments. The City of Englewood has not received this information. Mrs. Romans discussed the possibility of setting up a meeting of our Commission with Mr. Miles of the State Planning Office and Mr. Smith of the Council of Governments to discuss the relationship of those offices with the Englewood Planning Department. Mrs. Romans read a copy of a letter from Mr. Dial to the County Commissioners of Arapahoe County, which set forth recommendations made by the Planning Commission and City Council for the State Highway Work Program for 1971. Mr. Woods asked Mr. Lentsch if he planned to attend the Council of Governments Policy Committee meeting in November. Mr. Lentsch indicated that he would try. The meeting adjourned at 9:30 P.M. Gertrude G. Welty Recording Secretary * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Members Present: Members Absent: CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION November 18, 1969 7:3Q P. M. ~arlson; Lentsch; Woods Romans, Ex-officio Lone ; Parkinson; Touchton Mr. Woods stated that because a quorum of the Commission was not present, that the meeting could not be formally called to order; however, inasmuch as there were people present in regards to the expansion of a Mobile Home Park at 3075 South Santa Fe Drive, that this problem could be discussed informally and information forwarded to the members of the Com- mission who could not be in attendance. Mr. Jacques Machol, representing Mr. Payton, the present owner of the property, discussed plans for the proposed mobile home park expansion. Mr. Machol pointed out that Mr. Pettitt, who has an option to purchase the property and who plans to develop the park, has agreed to purchase additional land to make the egress road to Dartmouth Avenue, which is now only 12 feet wide, the required 15 ft. minimum width. It was suggested that Mr. Pettitt would like to amend his original plans which were considered at a previous meeting to show the center roadway through the proposed Park at a 25 foot width rather than the original 17 feet, which width could permit parking on one side. This would accommodate an extra 15 parking spaces in addition to the required one space per mobile home space. Mr. Machol stated that there would be "mushroom lights" installed for evening lighting of the Park, sidewalks and grassed areas. Mr. Pettitt pointed out that in the revised Plans, he has shown the trailer spaces on a 90 ° layout, and that in his opinion, this will give more space between the mobile homes to accommodate greenery. He added that there would also be an area in the front of the Park where · there would be grass, etc. Mr. Machol stated that if Mr. Pettitt's plan were to meet the requirements of the Mobile Home Park Ordinance alone, that 30 trailer spaces could be accommodated; however, Mr. Pettitt is willing to limit the spaces to 27. Mrs. Romans asked if Mr. Pettitt planned to install a cement stand under the trailers, or if he was planning to use "ribbons". Discussion followed. Mr. Pettitt stated that he didn't "want to go too far for the area", and commented that he felt if he was required to install the solid "slab", that the other parks in the area should also be required to install the slabs' he then commented that if the Commission would approve the expansion of the Court if slabs were installed, he would be willing to install solid concrete slabs. Mr. Pettitt further discussed his plan, and noted spaces for various sized mobile homes. Mr. Carlson stated that he didn't feel there would be much demand for 8 ft. mobile home spaces, and that he didn't feel the Park should be planned around spaces . of this size. Mr. Pettitt stated that the Plan could be adjusted. Discussion followed. Mr. Carlson questioned the parking arrangement, and stated that he didn't feel there would be adequate room to park a car plus a mobile home on the sites as shown. Mr. Carlson stated that he is of the opinion that one could not look on a space in the proposed Park as a "home"; rather, he felt it would become nothing but a "parking lot", and would begin to deteriorate as soo~ as the mobile homes were parked ~t h ere •. Mr. Carlson pointed out that the mobile home is becoming a way of life, and is no longer regarded as "temporary housing"; he felt in light of this that mobile home parks should be as nice as possible, and spaces should not be drowded together simply because a certain number of spaces would be permitted under an Ordinance which necessarily must provide minimal standards. Mr. Carlson also noted that if the price of the land is too high to give reasonable return without crowding in the manner proposed, that possibly the land should not be used as a Mobile Home Park, but rather for one of the other numerous uses permitted in the Industrial District. I I I I I I Page 1207 Discussion Iollowed. Mr. Machol stated that Mr. Pettitt is trying to present a reasonable plan for the use of the site, and that if the Commission would allow Mr. Pettitt the use of the site as a Mobile Home Park with a "reasonable" number of spaces, he is of the opinion that it would be upgrading the area. Mr. Pettitt commented that he felt he would have "around 25 spaces" to make the project feasible. Discussion followed. Mrs. Romans noted that if the Planning Commission did not feel they could approve the ex- pansion of the Park, that Mr. Pettitt could appeal their decision to the Board of Adjust- ment and Appeals. Mr. Machol stated that there was a time element involved, and this is the reason why they have made such a "tremendous effort" to cooperate with the desires of the Planning Commission. Further brief discussion followed. It was determined that Mr. Pettitt would submit another Plan at the next regular meeting of the Commission on December 2, 1969. The matter of off-street parking in the core area of Englewood was then discussed. Mr. Lentsch stated that there is a possibility that the parking , lot on the east side of the 3400 block of South Acoma may be sold, in which event the merchants in the 3400 block of South Broadway and some of the merchants on South Acoma Street would have no parking for their employees and customers. Mr. Lentsch stated that he felt some steps should be taken to en- sure permanent public parking in the area. He cited an example of the Englewood Herald, which presently has 23 employees, and if parking is not made available for these employees, the management of the Herald has stated that they will have to look elsewhere for their headquarters. Mr. Lentsch stated that there have been plans in the past for obtaining public parking, but that we have not been able to bring them to reality. Mrs. Romans noted that there have been two contacts made to the Planning Department on the possibility of obtaining B-2 (Business) Zoning on the land .occupied by the subject parking lot for the construction of a car wash. She stated that she agrees with Mr. Lentsch that something must be done about the parking situation, and that she had been of the opinion that possibly the Planning Commission would be the body to consider the matter. Discussion followed. Mr. Lentsch discussed the financing of the parking lots, and questioned whether or not an "improvement district" for the Core Area cou l d be implemented to finance , the acquisition. Mr. Woods stated that he could see an improvement district if it were to be confined to the downtown area, but as a property owner, he could not see having his property assessed to finance the purchase of parking lots for the merchants. Mr. Carlson stated that he felt it would have to be a joint venture between the property owner, the merchant, and the City. He also .p o inted ou t that a p ers o n constructing a new building is required to provide adequate parking for the proposed use, while the persons owning the older buildings have not provided parking. Mr. Carlson questioned why the owners of the existing buildings should not be required to provide their own parking if they have not done so. Discussion followed. Mr. Lentsch stated that they, the downtown merchants, needed guidance from the City, and he commented that the downtown area cannot survive on on-street parking alone for their customers. Discussion followed. Mr. Carlson asked if possibly the Denver Regional Council of Governments might have some information on financing the purchase of public parking lots? Further discussion followed. Mr. Lentsch asked that Mrs. Roman s gather the information on financing of parking lots by other cities, and stated that he will discuss the matter further with the merchants along Broadway and in the rest of the Core Area. He suggested that possibly the City and the merchants and property owners could have a joint meeting in January, inasmuch as with the holiday season approaching, many merchants would be unable to find time to attend meetings such as the one proposed. Mrs. Romans reminded members present of the special meeting on November 22nd at 8:00 A.M. at the Swedish Medical Center. Mr. Lone entered and took his place with the Commission. The d iscussions which had preceeded were reviewed for Mr. Lone. Brief discussion followed. I. CALL TO ORDER. The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at 9:25 P.M. by Chairman Woods. Members present: Carlson; Lentsch; Lone; Woods Romans, Ex-officio Members absent: Parkinson; Touchton II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES. Mr. Woods stated that the Minutes of October 28, 1969, were to be considered for approval. Carlson moved: Lentsch seconded: The Minutes of October 28, 1969, be approved as written. The motion carried unanimously. III. MR. JAY PETTITT 3075 s. Santa Fe Dr. CONDITIONAL USES Mobile Home Park CASE #42-6 9A October 28, 1969 This matter was not removed from the Table. However, the earlier discussion with the ap- plicant had been reviewed for Mr. Lone before the meeting was called to order, and it was determined that there was no further action which could be. taken at this time. -- ------ ----- - - - Page 1208 IV. HURON STREET EXTENSION 4100 Blk. S. Huron St. .CASE #43-6 9 Mrs. Romans stated that several years ago, Messrs. BuGkmas~er and Hepler brought in plans for what was referred to as the "Minor Developm,ent" in the 4100 block of South Huron Street. An extension of South Huron Street north of West Princeton Avenue which ended in a cul-de- sac was dedicated and three homes were subsequently developed in the area. The Director of Public Works has asked that the Commission consider the feasibili~y of opening this extension of South Huron Street onto West Oxford Avenue. Mr. Waggoner has pointed out ~hat when the City of Englewood takes over control of the Denver City Ditch, the grade on West Oxford can be cha ~ged, thus eliminating the dqngerous situation which now exists ~t this point on Oxford. Mr. Wag g oner feels that by extending South Huron to West Oxford Avenue, those persons who travel north on South Huron Street would then be given the option of turning off at .West Quincy Avenue or at West Oxford Avenue. Also , those persons on West Oxford Avenue wishing to go south on South Huron Street could do so. The matter has arisen because the 4200 block is in the proposed Paving District, and Mr . Waggoner would like to know the Commission's feeling before the District is approved, because it would make a difference on the roadway width that would be required in that block. Mr. Carlson stated he felt we would be spending a lot of money to get two additional blocks of street paving ; he stated that in his opinion, this is one of the worst spots in town. Mr. Lone stated that he is of the opinion that this could be a very nice quiet residential area and provides a relief to the grid-pattern development of the City. Further discussion followed. It was the determination of the Commission that Mr. Waggoner be informed that it is the feeling of the Commission that the suggestion seems somewhat unfeasible based on the information available at this point, but they would consider the matter further were cost estimates to be made available. V. MISCELLANE OUS Mrs. Romans stated that there was a Hearing before the Coloracb Department of Highways, November 21st, at 2 P.M. on the Santa Fe project between the Valley Highway and West Florida Avenue. She stated that what is done on the project at that point could have a bearing on the project in Englewood , and suggested that any members who could attend plan to do so. The meeting adjourned at 9:50 P.M. Gertrude G. Welty Recording Secretary * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** I. CALL TO ORDER. CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING December 2, 1969 The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at 7:55 P.M. by Chairman Woods. Members present: Carlson; Lentsch; Touchton; Woods Romans, Ex-officio Members absent: Lone; Parkinson Also present: City Attorney Criswell II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES. Chairman Woods stated that the Minutes of November 18, 1969, were to be considered for approval. Carlson moved: Lentsch seconded: The Minutes of November 18 , 1969, be approved as written. The motion carried unanimously. III. MR. JAY PETTITT 3075 S. Santa Fe Dr. CONDITIONAL USE Mobile Home Park CASE #42-69B Nov. 18, 1969 Oct. 28, 1969 Mrs. Romans stated that Mr. Machol, counsel for Mr. Payton, the present owner of the subject property, had called the Planning Office earlier in. the day and stated that neither he, on behalf of Mr. Payton, or Mr. Pettitt would be in attendance this evening, inasmuch as their presentation was not fully prepared. Mr . Machol stated that they would like to attend the meeting of December 16 , 1969, for further discussion on Mr. Pettitt's request for expansion of a Mobile Home Park at the above address. I I I