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IV. HURON STREET EXTENSION
4100 Blk. S. Huron St.
.CASE #43-6 9
Mrs. Romans stated that several years ago, Messrs. BuGkmas~er and Hepler brought in plans
for what was referred to as the "Minor Developm,ent" in the 4100 block of South Huron Street.
An extension of South Huron Street north of West Princeton Avenue which ended in a cul-de-
sac was dedicated and three homes were subsequently developed in the area. The Director of
Public Works has asked that the Commission consider the feasibili~y of opening this extension
of South Huron Street onto West Oxford Avenue. Mr. Waggoner has pointed out ~hat when the
City of Englewood takes over control of the Denver City Ditch, the grade on West Oxford can
be cha ~ged, thus eliminating the dqngerous situation which now exists ~t this point on Oxford.
Mr. Wag g oner feels that by extending South Huron to West Oxford Avenue, those persons who
travel north on South Huron Street would then be given the option of turning off at .West
Quincy Avenue or at West Oxford Avenue. Also , those persons on West Oxford Avenue wishing
to go south on South Huron Street could do so. The matter has arisen because the 4200 block
is in the proposed Paving District, and Mr . Waggoner would like to know the Commission's
feeling before the District is approved, because it would make a difference on the roadway
width that would be required in that block.
Mr. Carlson stated he felt we would be spending a lot of money to get two additional blocks
of street paving ; he stated that in his opinion, this is one of the worst spots in town.
Mr. Lone stated that he is of the opinion that this could be a very nice quiet residential
area and provides a relief to the grid-pattern development of the City. Further discussion
followed. It was the determination of the Commission that Mr. Waggoner be informed that
it is the feeling of the Commission that the suggestion seems somewhat unfeasible based on
the information available at this point, but they would consider the matter further were
cost estimates to be made available.
V. MISCELLANE OUS
Mrs. Romans stated that there was a Hearing before the Coloracb Department of Highways,
November 21st, at 2 P.M. on the Santa Fe project between the Valley Highway and West Florida
Avenue. She stated that what is done on the project at that point could have a bearing on
the project in Englewood , and suggested that any members who could attend plan to do so.
The meeting adjourned at 9:50 P.M.
Gertrude G. Welty
Recording Secretary
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I. CALL TO ORDER.
CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
December 2, 1969
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at 7:55 P.M.
by Chairman Woods.
Members present: Carlson; Lentsch; Touchton; Woods
Romans, Ex-officio
Members absent: Lone; Parkinson
Also present: City Attorney Criswell
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
Chairman Woods stated that the Minutes of November 18, 1969, were to be considered for
approval.
Carlson moved:
Lentsch seconded: The Minutes of November 18 , 1969, be approved as written.
The motion carried unanimously.
III. MR. JAY PETTITT
3075 S. Santa Fe Dr.
CONDITIONAL USE
Mobile Home Park
CASE #42-69B
Nov. 18, 1969
Oct. 28, 1969
Mrs. Romans stated that Mr. Machol, counsel for Mr. Payton, the present owner of the subject
property, had called the Planning Office earlier in. the day and stated that neither he, on
behalf of Mr. Payton, or Mr. Pettitt would be in attendance this evening, inasmuch as their
presentation was not fully prepared. Mr . Machol stated that they would like to attend the
meeting of December 16 , 1969, for further discussion on Mr. Pettitt's request for expansion
of a Mobile Home Park at the above address.
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IV. MR. ARTHUR HENRY
1905 West Harvard
SUBDIVISION WAIVER CASE #44-69
Mrs. Romans displayed a land use map of the area, and pointed out the property which is owned
by Mr. Henry. Inasmuch as Mr. Henry could not be at the meeting, Mr. John Lind was in attendance
as his representative. Mr. Lind explained that Mr. Henry wants to construct an office building-
warehouse complex on the property. The right-of-way for the north 30 ft. of West Harvard Avenue
has been dedicated from the south 30 ft. of the parcel. The property extends north to what
would be the centerline of West Baker Avenue, were it to be dedicated to a 60 ft. width however,
and it will be necessary for Mr. Henry to dedicate the north 30 ft. of his property for the
south one-half of West Baker Avenue. Mrs. Romans stated that this should be a point of considera-
tion, inasmuch as West Baker Avenue is projected to be opened to provide access to this in-
dustrial area.
Mr. Lind presented members with a survey of the area, and stated that this was only for the
south half of the property. The north half of the property is used for storage of construction
equipment, and Mr. Henry intends to continue that usage.
Discussion followed. Mr. Line stated that Mr. Henry was willing to give a dedication for the
required 30 ft. right-of-way for West Baker Avenue. He stated that Mr. Henry realizes that
West Baker will have to be widened to provide access for development, and that it will be to his
benefit to have the street ' opened. Mr. Criswell stated that the Waiver, were the Commission to
decide to approve the request for a Waiver, could be conditioned upon receipt of a Deed for the
30 ft. right-of-way for the South one-half of West Baker Avenue. Discussion followed.
Touchton moved:
Carlson seconded: That the application by Mr. John Lind, on behalf of Mr. Arthur Henry, for
a Subdivision Waiver for the property described as follows: Commencing at
at a point 330 ft. west of the SE corner of S 1 /2 SW 1 /4 NE 1 /4 SW 1 /4,
Section 28, Township 4 South, Range 68 West, thence west 61 ft. to a point;
thence north 330 ft.; thence east 61 ft.; thence south 330 ft. to the point
of beginning, EXCEPT that parcel conveyed by instrument recorded in Book
593, Page 260, in the records of Arapahoe County, Colorado,· be approved
conditioned upon the receipt of a Deed to the City of the north 30 ft. of
the parcel for the right-of-way for the south one-half of West Baker Avenue,
such Deed to be approved by the City Attorney.
The motion carried unanimously.
V. MR. ORA FLEISCHER
3201 S. Santa Fe Dr.
SUBDIVISION WAIVER CASE #45-69
Mrs. Romans stated that Mr. Fleischer was interested in property to the south of Dartmouth
Avenue, on which property it is his intent to construct a car wash. The property is not
platted. Mrs. Romans presented members with pictures of a proposed car wash which Mr.
Fleischer had filed with his application for a Waiver to the provisions of the Subdivision
Regulations. Mrs. Romans noted that there was no need for additional street right-of-way at
this time on South Santa Fe Drive, and the utilities to serve the site are in. Discussion
followed on the merits of requiring a Subdivision Plat, or a Waiver thereto, for this site,
inasmuch as Mr. Fleischer does not intent to sell any portion of the land at this time and
the property has access onto a dedicated street. Mrs. Romans pointed out that the entire
parcel will not be utilized by the proposed car wash, and that another use could be put on
the back portion of the property. Further discussion followed. Mr. Fleischer stated that
he does not intend to have a second use on the property, and that the car wash will encompass
"almost all" of the site. The location of the proposed building on the site was discussed.
Mr. Fleischer stated that there is a 27 ft. setback from the right-of-way line on South
Santa Fe, and at least 30 to 35 ft. setback from the pavement line. Mr. Fleischer stated he
operates a car wash in Littleton, and there has not been any problem in "stacking" of cars
once they have gotten through the car wash itself, even when they take advantage of the
vacuums which are used after washing the car. Mr. Fleischer stated he plans to have the
same layout on this site, and does not anticipate any stacking problem except those waiting
to go through the car wash itself. Discussion followed. It was determined by the Commission,
upon the advice of the City Attorney, that Mr. Fleischer should not be required to apply for
a Subdivision Waiver in order to construct the car wash on this site.
Mrs. Romans asked if it were a correct interpretation of the Commission's decision that
matters such as this one just considered, should not come before the Commission unless
additional street right-of-way, easements, etc. would be required? She asked if this were
the case if the staff should review such matters in the future? Further discussion followed.
No final, direction was given to the staff; but it was suggested that the applicant for a
Building Permit under similar circumstances should be notified that before any further
division of the property could take place there would have to be compliance with the Sub-
division Regulations.
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IV. OFF-STREET PARKING
Mr. Lentsch stated that he has talked to the downtown merchants, and that a meeting is set
for next week to discuss the matter of acquiring land for off-street parking.
VII. SWEDISH MEDICAL CENTER.
Mrs. Romans and m~mbers of the Commission who attended the joint meeting of the Planning
Commission and the Board of Directors of Swedish Medical Center on November 22, 1969, re-
viewed that meeting and the tour through the Hospital facilities. Discussion followed.
The Commission directed Mrs. Romans to write a letter to Swedish Medical Center expressing
the appreciation of the Commission for the opportunity to meet with the Board of Directors
and the tour of the Medical facilities.
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VIII. COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE.
The status of the revision of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance was discussed. Mr. Carlson
stated that he felt that Mr. Criswell and Mrs. Romans have gotten into the revision of the
Ordinance far enough that valuable time would be lost were the matter to be removed from M~
Criswell's hands when his resignation as City Attorney becomes effective December 31st. Mr.
Carlson stated that the Commission should suggest to City Council that Mr. Criswell be authorized
to proceed on the revision of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance. Mr. Criswell stated that
he would have no objection to continue working on the Ordinance after his term of office ex-
pires, a nd that he felt the Council would, in all probability, tell Mr. Berardini, the new
City At to r n e y , and himself to handle the transition of the duties in the way they feel is
best. In this event, he would plan to continue his work on the Ordinance.
IX. R-3 REQUIRED OFF-STREET PARKING.
Mrs. Romans stated that she was very much concerned about the problems that are arising
around the apartment houses within the City. Parking for the tenants is not being provided
on a 1:1 basis as is required by the Ordinance in every instance. People who live adjacent
to the apartment houses are complaining because the tenants and their guests are parking in
their driveways, occupying the entire street parking area, etc. A survey of surrounding
jurisdictions was made on the off-street requirements for their Multi-family Zone Districts,
and two of them require no off-street parking; four require one space per unit, and one re-
quires 1-1/2 spaces per unit. One jurisdiction stated they would prefer 1-1/2 spaces, and
another is plann ing to go to 1-3/4 spaces per unit. Another requirement which Mrs. Romans
felt must be written into the Ordinance when it is revised, is a minimum size parking space.
Mrs. Romans stated that she felt a minimum width of 9 ft. should be required for a parking
stall. Discussion followed. Mrs. Romans then gave members a copy of a survey of the apart-
ment houses in Englewood, showing the number of units, the number of parking spaces being
provided, the percentage of lot coverage, the year built, etc. This schedule was reviewed.
Mr. Criswell stated that he was under the impression that applicants for R-3 Zoning have
stated in Public Hearings that lending institutions will not finance apartment construction
unless parking is provided at least 1-1/2:1. He concluded from this survey that this is
obviously not correct. Further discussion followed. Mr. Carlson noted that another change
he felt should be made in the Ordinance is to permit the required off-street parking to be
located across the street or alley from the subject building. We presently require it to
be on the same site. Mrs. Romans agreed that this should be changed. Brief discussion
followed. No action was taken at this time.
X. MOBILE HOME PARKS.
Mr. Carlson stated that he and Mrs. Romans had toured the Payton Park Mobile Home Park on
December 1, 1969, and then had toured adjacent mobile home parks. Mr. Carlson discussed
the conditions found at Payton Park, and compared it with the condition of another mobile
home park to the south of Payton Park, where there was grass, where no trash is stored
around the mobile homes, and where some tenants have installed picket fences around the
mobile home. Mr. Carlson stated that in his opinion, this Park at 3141 South Santa Fe Drive
is in general a nice park. Mr. Carlson noted that Payton Park has 13 mobile homes at the
present time. He stated that he was ready to suggest to Mr. Pettitt at the next meeting,
that the Payton Mobile Home Park be brought up to standards as the Park at 3141 South Santa
Fe Drive has been, and that he would recommend ·that the Commission give Mr. Pettitt per-
mission to have 17 trailer spaces. Discussion followed.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:50 P.M.
Gertrude G. Welty
Recording Secretary
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I. CALL TO ORDER.
CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
December 17, 1969
The meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order by Chairman Woods.
Members present: Carlson; Lone; Touchton; Woods
Romans, Ex-officio
Members absent: Lentsch; Parkinson
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II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
Mr. Woods stated that the Minutes of December 2, 1969 were to be considered for approval.
Touchton moved:
Carlson seconded: The Minutes of December 2, 1969, be approved as written.
The motion carried unanimously.
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