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I. CALL TO ORDER.
CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 9, 1970
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The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order .at
8:05 P.M. by Vice-Chairman Lentsch.
Members present: Walsh; Senti; Patrick ; Mosbarger; Lentsch ; Henning ;
Supin ger, Ex-officio
Members absent: Woods; Lone; Carlson
Also present: Assistant Director Romans; City Attorney Berardini
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
Vice-Chairman Lentsch stated that Minutes of August 18, 1970, were to be considered for
approval.
Mosbarger moved:
Henning seconded: The Minutes of August 18, 1970, be approved as written.
The motion carried unanimously.
III. 000 WEST JEFFERSON AVENUE
Jefferson Avenue at U.S.
#285/Broadway off-ramp.
CASE #19-70B
August 18, 1970
August 5, 1970
Mr. Lentsch asked Mr. Supinger to review the matter for the Commission and the audience.
Mr. Supinger stated that the City Council has requested that the Planning Commission make a
recommendation on the traffic flow on West Jefferson Avenue between South Acoma Street and
South Broadway. Mr. Supinger stated that property owners between Hampden Avenue and Kenyon
Avenue, South Broadway Street and South Bannock Street were notified that the Planning Com-
mission would consider the matter on this date; the State Highway Department pas also been
asked f or a recommendation on the traffic flow for this block o f West Jefferson Avenue in
conjunction with the off-ramp from U.S. 285 to Broadway, which is 60 ft. +/-to the north
of the Jefferson/Broadway intersection. Mr. Supinger read the following letters into the
record:
(1)
Mrs. Dorothy Romans
Planning Department
City of Englewood
3400 South Elati Street
Englewood, Colorado 80110
Dear Mrs. Romans:
THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF HIGHWAYS
STATE OF COLORADO
Division o f Highways
District No. 6
2000 South Holly Street
Denver, Colorado 80222
August 24, 1970
The construction of the Broadway interchange on U.S. 285 is now well along and will be
completed in early fall of this year. The construction of this interchange creates a
particular problem with respect to Jefferson Avenue as it approaches Broadway (State Highway
75). It is our belief that to allow eastbound traffic to enter Broadway fr om Jefferson
Avenue will create an untenable situation.
Following are suggested solutions to this problem, any of which would be acceptable to this
Division:
1. Abandon Jefferson Avenue between Bannock Street and Broadway.
2. Do not allow Jefferson Avenue to connect to Broadway, but allow it to remain open by
constructing a cul-de-sac near Broadway. Service to Jefferson Avenue would be via
Bannock Street.
3, Allow Jefferson to remain open in a one-way westerly direction only. Preferably, left
turns northbound on Broadway to westbound Jefferson Avenue would be , denied.
We would appreciate consideration being given to implementation of one of these plans upon
completion of the interchange.
ENH: emc
cc: F. K. Merten
W. B. White
W. E. Tucker
J. A. Russell
File (Haase)"
Very truly yours,
CHAS E. SHUMATE
Chief Engineer
by: /S / E. N. Haase
E. N. Haase
District Engineer
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(2)
Mr. James L. Supinger
Planning Director
3400 So. Elati
Englewood, Colorado
Dear Mr. Supinger,
James F. Mezen, M.D.
3601 S. Broadway
Englewood, Colo. 80110
September 8, 1970
West Jeffersin is a problem. I am sure it will be better closed completely than to have
any sort of opening that will allow traffic to interfere with the flow of traffic on Broadway.
A limited or absent flow of traffic would be best as Bannock is also a possible route and it
would be better if Jefferson is limited. The flow of traffic onto Broadway as in the proposals
1 and 2 is objectionable because of the direction of the flow. The best possible solution I
think is the closure of West Jefferson between Broadway and Acoma.
JFM /dm
cc: Chas Shumate
Chief Engineer
Sincerely yours,
/S / J. F. Mezen, M.D.
James F. Mezen, M.D.
(3) September 8, 1970
Planning and Zoning Commission
City of Englewood
Dear Sirs:
I have received several letters from the Englewood Planning and Zoning Commission pertaining
to the "New Ramp System" and the proposals made on 000 West Jefferson Ave. between So. Broadway
and So. Acoma St.
As a property owner and concerned citizen I would like to see proposal No. 2 (with two-way
traffic on Jefferson with Rt. turn at Broadway) put into effect. Since I shall not attend
September 9, 1970, please consider this letter by vote for proposal no. 2.
Sincerely,
Henry Gentsch
3667 So. Acoma St.
(4) Why not make Jefferson & Bannock both two (2) way streets. No reason why these two
streets --Jefferson has been a one way street for one block and now it can and should
be a , two way from Broadway to Bannock.
(5)
MR. JAMES L. SUPINGER,
Planning Director
Office of Planning and Traffic
3400 South Elati Street
Englewood, Colorado 80110
Dear Mr. Supinger:
E. o. & V. Raup
by Valencia Raup
189 W. Jefferson
C. CHARLES BUCHLER
VICTOR N. NILSEN
BERNICE M. BUCHLER
3580 South Lincoln Street
Englewood, Colorado
80110
This office represents Bernice M. Buchler to whom you addressed a letter recently regarding
the possible vacation of a part or all of West Jefferson Avenue as the same adjoins certain
real property she owns at 3602 South Acoma Street.
Upon the behalf .of Mrs. Buchler we state that the most workable plan would appear to be a
modification of Proposal 4. The modification would be to combine Proposal 4 with the vaca-
tion of the street as shown by Proposal 1 --vacation of street being that portion shown to
the east of the alley. This modification would allow additional .area for the Mezen property,
would allow the Mezen property access from the parking area of the same to South Broadway
as well as leave reasonable access to the alley-way. It is debatable whether or not the
alleyway needs access to South Broadway, but for those who conclude that such access is
needed, such suggested modification would serve such -purpose.
Mrs. Buchler has no objection to the vacation of West Jefferson as the same adjoins her ·
property and she is not of the opinion that the property needs to be served by an alleyway
which has access to South Broadway. She also owns 3612 South Acoma Street, which is the
third property removed from West Jefferson, and in regard to that property she has no ob-
jection to the vacation of West Jefferson and no objection if the alleyway has no access to
South Broadway, but the same merely has a deadend.
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Proposal 2 as well as Proposal . 3 do not appear to be in the best interests of developing a
proper traffic pattern. In order to use either Proposal 2 or Proposal 3 properly, additional
traffic light controls would become a necessity. No doubt the City of Englewood could best
spend money for traffic lights at locations presently needing the same within the municipality.
In conclusion, Proposal 4 ~ith the suggested modification is favored by Mrs. Buchler, and
Proposal 1 would be acceptable.
CCB /lm
September 4, 1970.
Yours very truly,
/S I C. Charles Buchler
C. CHARLES BUCHLER
Mr. Supinger stated he wished to clarify a point contained on page 4 of the Staff Report
to the Planning Commission on this matter. He pointed out that Proposal 4 as shown, was
not proposed by a property owner as stated, but rather by the City Manager when a request
to build on an under-sized lot was considered,
Mrs. Shank
3606 South Acoma St. -Stated that she did not receive a written notification of this
meeting from the City, and asked why she had not done so. She
pointed -0ut that she is a property owner in that area, and has
lived in the area for nearly 30 years.
Mr. Supinger reviewed the list of property owners to whom letters were sent, and found that
"B. Grippe, 3606 South Acoma Street" was listed as a property owner. Mrs. Shank stated that
this was her property, and that she should have received the letter. Discussion followed.
Reverend Hahn
Immanual Lutheran Church
3695 South Acoma Street -Stated that the church fronts on South Acoma Street, and since
Jefferson Avenue between South Acoma Street and Broadway has
been one-way eastbound, visitors have had considerable difficulty
in finding the church, as have had mortuary officials when funerals
have been held in the church. Reverend Hahn indicated that .the
matter had been discussed with members of the Church, and it is
their desire that two-way traffic be instituted on West Jefferson
Avenue between South Acoma Street and South Broadway. If two-way
traffic is not approved for this block, Reverend Hahn suggested
that a cul-de-sac be constructed at Jefferson and Acoma to enable
persons to turn ar.ound and park in front of the church.
Mr. Lentsch asked what the width of Jefferson Avenue was at this point? Mr. Supinger re-
plied that he was not in possession of that information at this time.
Mrs. Shank
3606 South Acoma St. -Stated that she would prefer that proposal #2 (two-way traffic, right
turn only onto Broadway) be recommended to the City Council. She
pointed out that the garage at their home is situated on the alley
and in bad weather they have difficulty in getting out of the alley,
Mr. Shank
3606 South Acoma St. -Discussed the route he must follow when he leaves for work in the
morning. He stated that proposal #2 is his preference for the
traffic flow on West Jefferson ~
Mr. Trujillo
3616 South Acoma St. -Commented on the influx of population in the area and the parking
problems that have been experienced; he stated he was in favor of
Proposal #2.
Reverend Hahn stated that he understood the State Highway Department to recommend no left
turning movement from Broadway to Jefferson; he stated that the Church would like to have
the left turn movement approved if at all possible.
Mr. Supinger stated that the Jefferson/Broadway intersection is in too close proximity to
the Broadway/ramp intersection to allow the left-turn movement; he further commented that
the traffic signal whicn is now located at Broadway and Jefferson will be moved to Broadway
and the ramp.
Mrs. Kerr
3669 South Acoma -Asked that proposal #2 be instituted on West Jefferson Avenue.
Mr. Bannister
3615 South Acoma St. -stated he would like two-way traffic on West Jefferson Avenue and
was in favor of Proposal #2.
Mr. J. Clark
3694 South Acoma St. -Stated he is in. favor of Proposal #2. 1.
A. Wederski
3617 South Acoma St. -Stated he is in favo~ of Proposal #2.
Mr. Lentsch asked persons in favor of Proposal #2 to .raise their hands. The eleven .
members of the audience indicated they favored Proposal #2.
Dr. Walsh stated that he understood the businessmen on Broadway in nhe 3400 block were to
be notified of this proposal, and asked for their comments. Was this done?
Mr. Lentsch stated that the businessmen were informed of this meeting to consider the
traffic on West Jefferson Avenue, and he could only assume by their absence they were not
interested in the matter.
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Dr. Walsh asked for clarification of street vacation. He asked if a portion of the street
were given to adjacent property owners, or if the City could retain it? City Attorney Berar dini
stated that "vacation" of streets and alleys wa.s established by State Statute, and that upon
determination by City Council that the roadway is no longer needed, it "may be" vacated, and
1 /2 will revert to property owners on either side. If there are utilities in the street or
alley, the City will retain an easement for access to the utilities. The easement may not be
built upon. Discussion followed.
Mrs. Henning questioned the signalization at the ramp and Broadway, and what traffic flow
would be permitted at that location? Mr. Supinger stated that this matter has been dis-
cussed with the Public Works Director, and that turning movements, both right turn and left
turn, will be permitted from the ramps onto Broadway.
Mr. Bowman
3600 South Bannock -Stated that he had entered the meeting late, and asked if Proposal #2
is adopted, what the State Highway Department proposed to do for signaliza-
tion at the Broadway/Jefferson intersection?
Mr. Supinger stated that the Highway Department has suggested turning movements northbound
Broadway to Westbound Jefferson be prohibited, and that the signal would be moved from
Jefferson/Broadway to Broadway/ramp intersection.
Mr. Lentsch asked Mr. Supinger what the staff recommendation for this block of West Jefferson
was? Mr. Supinger stated that the Planning Department, Public Works Department, and Police
Department, have all recommended Proposal #3, which is one-way westbound between Broadway
and Acoma Streets. Mr. Supinger stated that this recommendation was felt to provide the best
circulation of traffic and the least confusion of the proposals.
Mrs. Shank asked why the City felt two-way traffic would be hazardous on this block? Mr.
Supinger stated that the City did not feel there was enough demand in that one block to
warrant two-way traffic. Mr. Supinger pointed out that this recommendation. by the Staff
was made prior to property owner comment, and that a recommendation from the Planning Com-
mission will take property owner opinion into consideration. Further discussion followed.
Mr. Lentsch asked if there were a traffic count for West Jefferson Avenue in this block?
Mr. Supinger stated that the most recent count is in 1967, which count for a 24-hour period
showed 1307 automobiles traveling in this block. Reverend Hahn asked if this count included
traffic using the ramp from the highway? Mr. Supinger replied that it did. Mrs. Kerr pointed
out that there have been changes in the neighborhood in the past three years, apartment houses
have been built, etc., and that the traffic has increased considerably. Further discussion
followed.
Henning moved:
Walsh seconded: The Planning Commission recommend to City Council that Proposal #2 (two-
way traffic, right turn only to Broadway) with left turns from Broadway
to Jefferson prohibited, be instituted on West Jefferson Avenue between
South Broadway and South Acoma.
The motion carried unanimously.
IV. PLANNING COMMISSION HANDBOOK
Mr. Supinger stated that an outline of the proposed Handbook had been mailed to Commission
members in time for their consideration prior to tonight's meeting. He noted that this will
be an updating and revision of the present Rules and Procedural Manual. Mr. Supinger dis-
cussed the outline of the Handbook noting items which were emphasized, items which were in-
cluded for the first time in this edition, and items which have been combined. Brief dis-
cussion followed. Mr. Lentsch stated that he felt this would be a guide for the Commission,
and that the Commission should follow it. The staff was directed to proceed on the revision
and updating of the Rules and Procedure Manual.
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V. COMMISSION NAMEPLATES.
Mr. Supinger stated that the staff has considered the purchase of nameplates for the Com-
mission, and asked if the members had a preference in style, etc.? Mr. Patrick asked if
there were money budgeted for this purchase? Discussion followed.
Patrick moved: The Planning Staff be authorized to purchase nameplates for members of
the Planning Commission, the style, color, etc. to be determined by the
staff.
The motion was seconded, and upon call of the roll, carried unanimously.
VI. COMMISSION'S CHOICE,
Mr. Lentsch inquired about the use of the building on the former Groussman property? Mr.
Supinger stated that this matter has been reviewed with the City Manager and the Parks and
Recreation Director, and the cost of making this building usable is excessive. Mr. Supinger
stated that the Park and Recreation Commission is to consider the matter before the State
Highway Department proceeds on disposition of the building. Brief discussion followed,
Mr. Lentsch then inquired about the filling station at Hampden and Bannock which had burned
~ome time ago. He noted that the building should be demolished or boarded up; he feels it
i~ a safety ha~ard as ~ell .as an eye-sore. Mr. Berardini stated that a suit on this building
will be heard in the District Court .later this month.
Mrs.Henning asked about the progress on an orientation program for the Commission members?
Mr. Supinger stated that an attempt to get the Chairman of the Commission of the Board of
Adjustment, and the Mayor together to discuss this proposal has been stal~mated thus far.
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Dr. Walsh asked if the next regular meeting was on September 22? Mr. Supinger replied
that it was, Mrs. Henning asked about the dinner meeting on September 21st. Mr. Supinger
stated that this is a meeting with the City Council, and will probably be at the Greek
Village restaurant, but final location and time has not yet been determined.
Walsh moved:
Patrick seconded: The meeting be adjourned.
The motion carried unanimously; the meeting adjourned at 9:00 P.M.
Gertrude G. Welty
Recording Secretary
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MEMORANDUM TO THE CITY MANAGER REGARDING ACTION OR RECO~n1ENDATION@OF THE CITY PLANNING
AND ZONING COMMISSION
DATE: September 9, 1970
SUBJECT: Traffic Pattern --000 West Jefferson Avenue
RECOMMENDATION:
Henning moved:
Walsh seconded: The Planning Commission recommend to City Council that Proposal #2
(two-way traffic, right turn only to Broadway) with left turns from
Broadway to Jefferson prohibited, be instituted on West Jefferson
Avenue between South Broadway and South Acoma,
The motion carried unanimously.
By Order of the City Planning
and Zoning Commission.
Gertrude G. Welty
Recording Secretary
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