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I. CALL TO ORDER.
CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
July 7, 1971
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at
8:05 p.m.
Members Present: Weist; Vobejda; Senti; Patrick; Mosbarger; Lentsch; Henning; Carlson
Members Absent: None
Also Present: Director of Planning Supinger
Assistant Director of Planning Romans
Mr. Lee Modrell, City of Sheridan Planning Commission.
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
It was stated that the Minutes of June 22, 1971, were to be considered for approval.
Henning moved:
Senti seconded: The Minutes of June 22, 1971, be approved as written.
The motion carried unanimously.
Planning Director Supinger noted that with the appointment of Mr. Leo Lentsch to City Council,
that according to ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER, the Vice-Chairman assumes the chair, and that
elections for Vice-Chairman would be in order. Mr. Carlson, Vice-Chairman, assumed the
Chair, and stated that the order of business would continue, with the elections held at the
close of the session.
III. MARK TWAIN MOTEL CASE #16-71
3301 South Santa Fe Drive
Mr. Supinger stated that he had discussed this matter with Chief Building Inspector Brokate,
and it is felt by Mr. Brokate and his Department that the suggested 6 ft. non-combustible
fence is necessary for fire protection. Mr. Supinger stated that Mr. Brokate had initially
planned to attend this meeting, but that inasmuch as he was not in attendance, he, Mr.
Supinger, would try to summarize their discussions on the matter. Mr. Supinger stated that
he also had discussed the matter with City Attorney Berardini, and it is the attorney's
opinion that if the Commission feels the request is "reasonable that they could and should
tack it on" to the conditional use, but that the fence could only be required as a part of
the "Conditional Use" procedure. Discussion followed.
Mr. Lentsch asked if there was a known reason why the Chief Building Inspector was not in
attendance? He stated that he felt the Chief Building Inspector had a responsibility to
attend the meeting to explain his recommended installation of the fencing, and that he felt
it was unfortunate he was not present. Further discussion followed.
Lentsch moved:
Senti seconded: The request of Mr. Richard Cannon of the Mark Twain Motel, 3301 South
Santa Fe Drive, for installation of nine (9) mobile home spaces in
conjunction with the existing 15-unit motel be granted, based on the
following conditions:
1. Provision is to be made to carry the natural surface drainage, to-
gether with the additional run-off created by the improvements to
be added, from the site in such a manner as not to cause damage to
properties at a lower level. The drainage plan is to be approved
by the Director of Public Works.
2. The southwest parking stall shown in the free-standing .parking area
is to be eliminated to provide more adequate maneuvering space in
the aisle.
3. The a$phalt for the roadway and parking area shall be in place be-
fore the occupancy permit is issued to occupy the spaces.
4. There shall be compliance with all of the provisions of the Mobile
Home Park Ordinance.
Approval of this plan is further conditioned upon the installation of concrete slabs as shown
on plans submitted by Mr. Cannon to the Planning Department dated June 3, 1971.
The motion carried unanimously.
IV. MOBILE HOME SHOW
Mr. Supinger stated that there would be a Mobile Home · Show held at Cinderella City July 16th
through July 18th. He stated that he understood it would be located in the parking area
north of the Denver Dry Goods Store. He stated that he felt it might be of interest to Com-
mission members should they wish to attend.
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V. DIRECTOR'S CHOICE
Mr. Supinger presented a proposed budget for 1972 for the Planning Commission. Mr. Supinger
noted that the basic change in the proposed budget from the 1971 budget was an increase in
the account for Travel and Conference Attendance. He explained that this was to enable the
Commission members to participate in the newly formed Arapahoe County Planning Commissioners
meetings, meetings with the City Council, etc. Discussion followed. The proposed budget 1
was given approval by the Commission for presentation to Council.
Mr. Lee Modrell of the Sheridan Planning Commission was introduced. Mr. Modrell stated
that he would like to extend an invitation to members of the Englewood Planning Commission
to attend the Sheridan Planning Commission meeting on Friday, July 9th. Mr. Modrell stated
that he was very pleased to receive an agenda of the Englewood meetings and copies of the
minutes, and stated that he felt the two cities needed to work together, and that Englewood
and Sheridan have, indeed, begun to do so. He indicated that he felt the meetings of the
Commissions of Englewood and Sheridan was very definitely a step forward on the road to
"cooperation". Discussion followed. Mr. Lentsch stated that he felt the City of Englewood
should participate and cooperate wherever possible with adjoining cities, and .that a beginning
would be to send the minutes and agendas of the Commission meetings to these jurisdictions.
Mr. Supinger discussed the July meeting of the Arapahoe Planning Commissioners, which will
be held July 15th and which will be held at the Hilton Inn, Interstate #70 and Peoria Street
in Aurora at 8:00 P.M. It was noted that the Aurora Planning Commission had invited the
Englewood Commission to a dinner meeting prior to the meeting at 8:00 P.M., and have stated
that they would like to know the number of Englewood that will be attending, and also what
their choices would be for dinner. The dinner would be in the Hilton Inn Banquet Room, the
"get acquainted hour" at 6:00 p.m., and the dinner starting at 6:30 p.m. Discussion followed.
It was determined that Mr. and Mrs. Vobejda; Mr. and Mrs. Patrick; Mrs. Henning; Mr. Weist;
Mr. Senti; Mr. Lentsch; Mr. Mosbarger from the Commission would attend the dinner and the
meeting following.
Mr. Supinger stated that a meeting with the City Council and Planning Commission may be
scheduled for July 20th to discuss a plan for the Core Area; if this meeting can be
arranged, no "agenda" items will be scheduled for that evening, but will be held over for
the next regular meeting.
Mr. Carlson noted that the next two meetings would be July 20th and August 4th, a Wednesday
night due to the Colorado Day holiday on the first Monday in August.
VI. COMMISSION'S CHOICE
Mr. Lentsch discussed the City Council meeting of July 6th, at which time the Public Hearing
on the matter of increasing off-street parking standards in residential districts was held.
Mr. Lentsch noted that this matter was tabled for further consideration initially, but that
he did succeed in having it raised from the table later in the evening. Mr. Lentsch noted
that the Chamber of Commerce had taken no part in discussion of . this matter when it was be-
fore the Planning Commission, and yet a resolution had been prepared and passed by the Board
of Directors of the Chamber for presentation to Council at the Public Hearing approving and
recommending Council approval of 2:1 parking rather than 1-1/2:1 for some units as had been
recommended by the Commission. Mr. Lentsch indicated that .he felt there was a strong feeling
on the Council that perhaps the matter should be considered further by the Commission with
an eye to increasing the required parking to 2:1; however, the recommendation of the Com-
mission for 1-1/2:1 parking for one or two bedroom units in other than single-family resi-
dential districts was approved .by a vote of 6-1 .. Mr.. Lentsch stated that he felt this was
an accomplishment, and pointed out that if the Council had delayed action until the matteF
had been further studied by the Commission, ordinances prepared, public hearings held, it
could have been another four or five months before anything would have been done. Mr.
Lentsch did feel that the Commission should give further study to the matter of 2:1 parking.
Discussion followed. Mr. Senti . commented that there had been no opposition whatever· voiced ·
at the Public Hearing before City Council on the proposal. He stated that he felt the Council
acted properly in passing the recommended parking standards. Discussion followed. Mr.
Supinger stated that the staff would give the matter further study between now and the time
the revised ordinance is considered; he suggested that possibly interviews with tenants
might be one way of determining what parking is needed. He stated that he didn't want to
see the City approve the 2:1 if it weren't actually needed, as this could place the City in
a difficult position of attracting developers if other cities standards weren't as high.
Further brief discussion followed.
Mr. Mosbarger gave a report on the Storm Drainage situation in the City, and progress that
has been made toward a solution to the problem. He stated that initial plans have been made
to begin th~ storm drainage program in the northeast section of the City, and a possibility
of starting in the northwest area .along .Harvard has also been seriously considered. He noted
that the plan for the "south central" portion of the c:iLty indicates that a "swale" by Charles
Hay School will be used for the drainage, and that portions of the drainage will be open
while others are to be closed. Mr. Mosbarger noted that if help can be obtained from the
Federal Government, the project would probably begin in Northwest Englewood --this area is
being considered as "Area of Concern A" by the Workable Program Citizens' Committee, and if
the two could be worked in conjunction much could be accomplished. Mr. Mosbarger noted that
the 1 % sales tax increase is covering the cost of the storm drainage program, and that it is
estimated to be 5 or 6 years from the time it is begun until it will be completed. Discussion
of the plan ensued.
Mr. Carlson called for nominations for Vice-Chairman.
Mr. Senti nominated Mr. Robert Weist as Vice-Chairman of the Planning Commission. Mr.
Lentsch seconded the nomination.
Mosbarger moved:
Senti seconded:
The motion carried.
The nominations be closed, and a unanimous ballot be cast for Mr. Weist
for Vice-Chairman.
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The meeting was adjourned at 9:05 P. M. Coffee and cake were served to members honoring the .
appointment of Mr. Lentsch to City Council.
Gertrude G. Welty
Recording Secretary
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I. CALL TO ORDER.
CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
July 20, 1971 .
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at 7:35
p.m. by Chairman Carlson.
Present:
Absent:
Also present:
Weist; Vobejda; Senti; Patrick; Lentsch; Carlson
Mosbarger; Henning
James Supinger, Director of Planning
Dorothy Romans, Assistant Director of Planning
Bernard Berardini, City Attorney
Messrs. Paul Maybury and Louis Brown
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II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
Mr. Carlson stated that the Minutes of July 7, 1971, were to be considered for approval.
Lentsch moved:
Patrick seconded: The Minutes of July 7, 1971, be approved as written.
The motion carried unanimously.
III •. CARMEL PARK SUBDIVISION
Off-Street Parking Plan
CASE #17-71
Mr. Carlson asked Mrs. Romans to discuss the development of this site to this date.
Mrs. Romans stated that the present development plans are for the west 1 /2 of the Carmel
Park Subdivision, an area that is between West Belleview Avenue and West Grand Avenue, and
between South Cherokee Street and South Bannock Street, both .streets to be extended.
Sinclair Junior High School is to the north of the site, and apartments have been developed
immediately to the east. To the west, there are 2-1/2 acres of land which is basically un-
developed, and which has an R-2-A zoning. To the south of the site, across West Belleview
Avenue, there is the K-Mart development. Mrs. Romans stated that the subject site is owned
by Mr. Jack Lopata, including the west 1 /2 of Lot 17, which is listed under Carmel Park
Recreation ownership. The proposed development is for four 51-unit apartment buildings.
Off-street parking for 312 automobiles is being provided. Mrs. Romans noted that 56.5%
of the site will be used for parking and maneuvering space; 24.9% for the apartment buildings ;
18.6% is for open space. Mrs. Romans noted that the proposed apartment buildings will be
three stories in height. ·
Mrs. Romans noted that this site was annexed to the City of Englewood in 1953, and was rezoned
to accommodate multi-family development in 1958. The property was purchased by Mr. Lopata
under the incorporation name of Peerless .Builders, and the property was subdivided in 1962.
Two units facing on West Grand Avenue and four units facing on West Belleview Avenue were
constructed shortly thereafter, but no further development was done on the parcel. Now,
the eastern portion that was developed has been purchased by a Dr. Shanahan, who is doing
remodeling work on the existing buildings, and adding landscaping areas where there was
formerly blacktop in front of the buildings.
Mrs. Romans noted that the proposal has been referred to the other City Departments, and that
the Fire Dep3;rtment requires "fire lanes" be designated. Mrs. Romans stated that access must
be provided on two sides of a structure for the snorkle, and that the north/south access lanes
as shown on the proposed parking plan have been designated as the "fire lanes". Also, the
Fire Department has stated that they must have a 50 ft. outside turning radius to accommodate
the snorkle. Mrs. Romans indicated a plan on which the fire lanes were indicated, and on
which the 50 ft. turning radius had been indicated. She stated that there appeared to be
no problems, and that access was being provided on three sides for the Fire Department equ:ip-
ment.
Mrs. Romans stated that the Building Department has indicated the plans meet with their ap-
proval, but had pointed out the need for compliance with §22.5-3b, of the Comprehensive
Zoning Ordinance, which reads: "Barriers and screening. Areas subject to wheeled traffic
shall be provided with barriers of such dimensions that occupants of adjacent residential
structures are not unreasonably disturbed, either by day or night, by the movement of
vehicles. Unless otherwise provided for in this Ordinance, for each boundary line abutting
directly on a residential lot, a wall or closed-face fence (at 'least four [4] feet high)
shall be provided, which shall serve as a barrier to passage of persons, waste material and
light from headlights."
The Public Works Department has indicated that a 6" high 'curb will be required along the
east and west sides of the property to assure that the storm run-off will not go onto the
adjoining properties to the east and west.
Mrs. Romans briefly discussed the design of the buildings vs. the design of previous con-
struction on the adjoining site. She noted that the "court" design will offer landscaping
for each unit.
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Mrs. Romans then discussed utility easements on the property very briefly. She noted that
none of the easements will affect the layout of the parking plan, but did note that one of
the structures was situated over a sewer easement. This particular easement lies 149 feet
south of the north property line and is an east-west easement. It will be necessary for tlE
developer to contact officials of the South Englewood Sanitation District, who have juris-
diction over this matter, to obtain permission to encase the .line and to construct 'over 'it
or to relocate the line before a building permit can be issued.
Mrs. Romans stated that the Planning Staff recommends that the parking plan be approved,
provided four conditions are met by the applicant, these conditions being:
1. The surface material be installed to the specifications of the Department of Public
Works.
2. A 6" high curb be installed along the east and west side of the property to contain the
storm run-off.
3. A wall or closed-face fence be installed on the west property line as required in
§22.5-3b of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance.
4. The two north/south aisles and the lanes providing access to the parking stalls to the
rear of the four buildings be designated and maintained as fire lanes (no unattended
cars parked in the fire lane); and a 50 ft. outside turning radius be maintained at the
entrances and exits to the north and south lanes in the parking lot. Any parking stalls
encroaching in this radius would have to be eliminated.
Mr. Brown indicated that he was working on the matter of the easement, and noted that this
must be solved before a loan would be granted to the developer.
Mr. Lentsch asked if the conditions suggested by the staff were acceptable to the developer?
Mr. Maybury, architect for the development, stated that they were acceptable and would be met.
Mr. Carlson stated that he would like to have more information on the matter of South Cherokee
Street. He stated that he wasn't sure it was necessary to have dedication of this street,
but noted that if in the future it was found to be needed that some of the parking being
provided by this development would probably have to be eliminated. He noted that the parcel
to the west which is zoned R-2-A is only 165 ft. wide, and questioned the practicality of
requiring the full dedication to be made from that parcel. Discussion followed. Mrs. Romans
stated that records in the Office indicate that at the time the R-3-A zoning was granted in
1958, that the then owner of the Carmel Park Subdivision, Mr. Andrews, was willing to deed
the 25 ft. of the land for South Cherokee Street, but that the owner of the land to the
west which is now zoned R-2-A, refused to deed any of his land for a street. The offer of
the 25 .ft. dedication which had been made by Mr. Andrews was withdrawn. At the time the
parcel was subdivided, the Planning Commission and City Council worked with both property
owners for about a year trying to reach a solution to the problem, but were unable to do so.
The City Attorney at that time stated that it was his opinion that the dedication could not
be required of Peerless Builders, then owners of the Carmel Park Subdivision, and the sub-
division Plat was subsequently approved without the dedication. Mrs. Romans stated that
she would question whether a 60 ft. street would be required for .this block, or whether, if
a street were necessary,.a 50 ft. dedication .wouldn't be .just as satisfactory. Mrs. Romans
pointed out that there have been several sttampts to rezone the property to the west to
high density residential, but property owners in the adjacent area have successfully opposed
such applications. Mr. Lentsch asked what the "Thompson" property could be used for? Mrs.
Romans stated that she felt it could be developed under the present R-2-A zoning.
Mr. Carlson asked
Sherokee Street?
cause of Sinclair
to requi~ing such
Lentsch moved:
Senti seconded:
Mr. Supinger if he saw any advantage to the possible dedication of South
Mr. Supinger stated that the street would .be only one block in length, b~
Junior High School to the north, and he felt there would be no advantage
a dedication. Brief discussion followed.
The Planning Commission accept the off-street parking plan for the
west one-half of Carmel Park Subdivision as shown on plans presented
for consideration; such approval is based upon the following conditions:
1. The surface material be installed to the specifications of the
Department of Public Works.
2. A 6'' high curb be ins~all~d al6ng the east and west side of the
property to contain the storm run-off.
3. A wall or closed-face fence be installed on the west property line
as req~ired .in §22.5-3b of ·the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance.
4. The two north/south aisles and the lanes providing acces9 to the
parking stalls to the rear of the four buildings be designated and
maintained as fire lanes (no unattende~ cars parked in the fire
lane); and a 50 ft. outside turning radius be maintained at the en-
trances and exits to the nort~ and south laaes in the parking lot.
Any parking sta~ls encroaching in this radius would have to be
eliminated.
The motion carried.
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IV. DIRECTOR'S CHOICE.
Mr. Su pinger stated that there was nothing he wished to bring to the attention of the Com-
mission at this time.
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V. COMMISSION'S CHOICE
Copies of a letter from Mr. George Allen, President of the Chamber of Commerce, recommending
that the parking ratio be raised to 2:1 had been given Commission members earlier in the
evening. Mr. Weist noted that Mrs. Romans had stated earlier that on the Carmel Park develop-
ment, 56% of the land was to be used for parking and maneuvering space, and this was pro-
viding 1-1/2:1 parking. Mr. Weist indicated that he felt the Chamber recommendation should
be given very serious study, and cautioned that the City should not exceed "what is practical
and necessary" in parking requirements.
The meeting adjourned at 8:00 p.m.
Gertrude G. Welty
Recording Secretary
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CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
AUGUST 4, 1971
I. CALL TO ORDER.
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at 8:00
p.m. by Chairman Carlson.
Members present: Weist; Vobejda; Senti; Patrick; Carlson
Supinger, Ex-officio
Members absent : Mosbarger; Lentsch; Henning
Also present: D. A. Romans, Assistant Director of Planning
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
Chairman Carlson stated that the Minutes of July 20, 1971, were to be considered for approval.
Pa trick moved: .
Senti seconded: The Minutes of July 20, 1971, be approved as written.
The motion carried unanimously.
III. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
1971 -1976.
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Mr. Supinger stated that Mr. Dial, City Manager, has requested that the tentative Capital
Improvement Program be reviewed, and that comments and suggested changes be submitted to his
office in writing by August 20, 1971.
Copies of last year's recommendation from the Planning Commission were given Commission
members, as was a "comparison table", which table sets forth the projects and amounts sug-
gested by the Commission, the amounts for various projects budgeted for 1971, and the amounts
and projects included in the "suggested Capital Improvement Plan".
Mr. Supinger pointed out some of the projects on which there has been a sharp change from
the amount suggested and budgeted to later information, result from information which has
been "firmed up". Mr. Supinger noted that the Rescue Vehicle is listed as $6,000 city funds,
and hopefully $6,000 will be obtained from Federal Funds. It is also hoped that the Federal
Government will contribute $48,000 to the development of Belleview Park , in addition to the
City's proposed appropriation of $55,000. Mr. Supinger noted that the Animal Shelter was
one case of a sharp rise in construction costs over the amount originally ·estimated and
budgeted. Mr. Carlson asked if the size of the Shelter had been increased over that originally
considered, and if this were partly the cause of the increase in cost? Mr. Supinger stated
that he did not think the size of the Shelter was increased. Discussed followed. Mr. Carlson
stated that he felt the Commission should get information for the Capital Improvement Program
that was much more accurate in the estimate phase than the $13,000 vs. the $32,000 for the
Animal Shelter. Further discussion followed.
Mr. Supinger stated that the increase in the amount appropriated for the Greenbelt in North-
west Englewood was due to the feeling of City Council that more emphasis should be placed on
this particular project, particularly in conjunction with a storm sewer project in the same
area. Mr. Supinger stated that the purchase of all lots on the north of the proposed greerr
belt has been authorized. He noted that purchase of the lots on the south boundary of the
greenbelt will be more expensive , and has not been authorized at this date.
The traffic program was discussed. Mr. Carlson questioned whether Federal Funds might be
available for some of this program, such as the traffic study. Mr. Supinger stated that
the TOPICS portion of the program is financed with Federal Funds, and noted that there might
be a possibility of obtaining Federal Funds for the implementation of the program as recom-
mended in the final Traffic Study, but that the City has taken a "conservative" approach to
the matter, and has not included such possible funds in the Capital Improvement Program as
presented.
Mr. Carlson questioned the possibility of Federal funds for the Greenbelt area in Northwest
Englewood? Mr. Supinger stated he felt there was a possibility that the City could get
Federal Funds on the storm drainage program which is in conjunction with the greenbelt.
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