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Mr. Lentsch suggested that Mr. Simmons, one of the speakers at the recent Planning Conference
at the University of Colorado, be invited to meet with the Commission to give the members an
idea as to how to proceed. He said that he also felt there should be better coordination
within the City and that the Commission should be knowledgable about the drainage and traffic
plans, for example, in order that they could be tied into the Commission's planning program.
The Workable Program was cited as another area in which the Commission should be involved.
The Commission was advised that "res p onsibility is assumed, not delegated", and that the
Commission will have to assert itself if it is to be involved in these programs.
It was suggested that the Commission invite the consultants preparing the traffic and
drainage studies to meet with them.
Whether or not the City Council is obligated to refer certain matters to the Commission for
a recommendation before the Council acts, was discussed. Mr. Carlson stated that he is of
the opinion that the Council should refer matters to the Commission for a recommendation if
matters within the Commission's jurisdiction have inadvertently gone directly to the Council
rather than being presented ta the Commission. Mr. Carlson added that in his opinion, the
Workable Program application should have been referred to the Planning Commission.
Mr. Supinger explained that the Workable Program Citizens' Committee had referred the Workable
Program application to the City Council because the Committee was created by the City Council.
He added that the Committee would meet with the. Commission, should the Commission so desire.
The purpose of the Workable Program Citizens' Co mmittee was explained for those new members
of the Commission.
It was suggested that all of the Commission members should attend the Denver Regional
Council of Governments, not just those who are appointed as representatives.
It was also suggested that the Commiss i on should meet with the School Board and other City
Boards and Commissions, such as the Water Board, Library Board, Parks and Recr 1 ation Com-
mission and Board of Adjust ent and Appeals, to find out what those groups are doing.
Departments such as the Fire and Police Departments and the Public Works Department that
do not work directly with a Board or Commission, should also be contacted.
Mr. Barton asked whether or not the City has a documented five or ten year plan? 1He was
referred to the Comprehensive Plan and the Capital Improvement Program.
Mrs. Henning raised the question as to why the Planning Commission and City Council could
not hold joint public hearings on certain matters.
Mr. Senti suggested that the Commission members define the problems o f the City as they see
them and then determine how to solve those problems.
It was agreed that the meeting on November 16th would be a planning session and that in the
meantime, each Commission member would make a list of the problems o f the City as they see
them, defining the problem and offering a solution to the problem. At the meeting on
November 16th, these matters will be considered informally. It was suggested that maps of
the City and Areas of Concern maps be made available to the members.
Mr. Carlson announced that a seminar is being held at the University of Colorado, meeting
on Wednesday nights from October 20th through December 1st from 7:30 to 10 :00 p.m. He
asked for anyone interested to contact Mr. Supinger.
Mr. Berardini announced that the public hearing before the City Council on the Planned De-
velopment District and the "housekeeping" amendments to the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance,
will be on November 15, 1971.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:05 p.m.
Dorothy A. Romans
Recording Secretary, Pro-tern
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I. CALL TO ORDER.
CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
November 9, 1971
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at 8:00
p.m. by Chairman Carlson.
Members present: .
Senti; Patrick; Lentsch; Mosbarger; Vobejda; Carlson
Supinger , Ex-officio
Members absent: Barton; Weist; Henning
Also present: D. A. Romans, Assistant Director of Planning
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' II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
Chairman Carlson stated the Minutes of October 19, 1971, were to be considered for approval.
Lentsch moved:
Vobejda seconded: The Minutes of October 19, 1971, be approved as written.
The motion carried.
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III. FLOOD PLAIN DISTRICT
Lentsch moved:
Patrick seconded: The Public Hearing be opened.
The motion carried.
Mr. Carlson asked the staff to review the proposed Flood Plain District.
stated that notice of Public Hearing had been published in the Englewood
20, 1971. She further noted that there have been some revisions made as
discussion and review of the Ordinance at the regular meeting o~ October
finition of "riprap" has been added as requested by the Commission.
Mr. Barton entered and took his chair with the Commission.
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CASE #25-71B
Oct. 19, 1971
Oct. 5, 1971
Mrs. Romans
Herald on October
a result of the
19, 1971. A de-
Mrs. Romans noted that reference to the Urban Drainage and Flood Control District of ·Colorado
has been deleted from the proposed Ordinance. An additional section on Non-conforming Uses
within the Flood Plain District has been added to the proposed ·Ordinance.
Mr. Lentsch asked if there is a map showing the boundaries of the flood plain areas? Mrs.
Romans replied that at the present time there is not such a map, as the information is not
available to the necessary detail that is required. Mrs. Romans stated that at such time
as the information is available, it will be applied to a map, and the map will be presented
to the Commission for consideration and adoption.
Mr. Lentsch stated that he felt the proposed Ordinance was, at the present time, being
adopted primarily for the purpose of the Federally subsidized insurance that is now avail-
able to citizens of Englewood. Discussion followed. Mr. Patrick asked if the flood in-
surance was available to all citizens of Englewood? Mrs. Romans stated that it is now, and
will be until the detailed information is available.
Lentsch moved:
Mosbarger seconded: The Public Hearing be closed.
The motion carried.
Lentsch moved:
Vobejda seconded:
The motion carried.
The Planning Commission recommend to City Council that the proposed
Flood Plain District Ordinance be approved.
IV. HOUSING CONFERENCE
November 18, 1971
Chairman Carlson stated that notification of a seminar on critical housing issues in the
Denver Region has been received by the Planning Office. This first seminar will be held
on November 18, 1971, at the offices of ·the Council of Governments, 1776 South Jackson
Street, from 8:30 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. Mr. Carlson urged those members who could do so to
attend this conference.
Mr. Senti and Mr. Lentsch indicated they would attend the seminar, and would like reserva-
tions made for them. Mr. Barton stated that he would try to attend the seminar.
Discussion followed. The Secretary was instructed to make reservations for Messrs. Senti,
Lentsch and Barton, and to check with personnel at COG on the possibility of members who
cannot attend the seminar for the full day attending in the afternoon.
V. COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS REPRESENTATIVE
Planning & Zoning Commission
Mr. Carlson stated that the Council of Governments Policy Advisory Board meets once a month,
and is composed of members of the Planning Commission from the member jurisdictions. He
stated that in an attempt to increase attendance, the meetings have been scheduled for
6:30 P. M. Thursday evenings. Mr. Carlson stated that this is proving to be inconvenient
for him, and he didn't feel that his attendance record would reflect the interest in and
support of the Council of Governments that Englewood should have. Mr. Carlson stated that
he felt if another member of the Commission could attend these meetings that it would be
wise to designate that person as the City Planning Commission representative. Discussion
followed. Mr. Senti stated that he is the City Council representative on the Council of
Governments, and that he felt it is an excellent opportunity to serve with such a group.
Mrs. Vobejda stated that she thought she would be able to attend most of the meetings, but
stated she didn't know how well she understood the functions of the Committee, etc. Mr.
Barton asked what the primary objective of the Council of Governments was? Mr. Carlson
stated that the Policy Advisory Committee serves to the Council of DRCOG much the way the
Planning Commission in Englewood serves the City Council ---in an advisory capacity. Mr.
Carlson noted that the Policy Advisory Committee doesn't get involved in as much "research"
as does the City Planning Commission, but this committee still does a great deal of the "leg
work" on problems prior to the submission to the Council.
City Attorney Berardini entered the meeting.
Mr. Senti stated that there should be a Planning Commission representative from all the
Cities participating in COG serving on the Policy Advisory Board.
Mr. Barton asked why, if one person is on COG, it was necessary for anyone else to put in
their time on it? Mr. Senti noted that he was the City Council representative on the Council
of COG, and also serves on two committees of the COG Council. Mr. Lentsch noted that a lot
of school districts are represented on the Policy Advisory Committee.
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Mrs. Romans stated that until three or four years ago, the cities could appoint members of .
their Plan~ing Commissions to be their representative to the Council of Governments, but in
an effort to "strengthen" the position of the Council of Governments, "elected officials"
were appointed to the Council of DRCOG, and the members of the Planning Commissions, etc. were
appointed to the Policy Advisory Committee. Discussion followed.
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Mr. Carlson noted that there will be a reorganization of the Commission after the first of
the year, and that perhaps the problem will solve itself.
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VI. WPCC /PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
November 11, 1971, 7:30 P. M.
Mr. Carlson stated that he was in receipt of a letter from Mr. J. L. Parkinson, Chairman of
the Workable Program Citizens' Commi~tee, which letter invited members of the Planning Com-
mission to meet with the WPCC at their next meeting, November 11th. This meeting will begin
at 7:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers of City Hall.
Mrs. Vobejda, Mr. Mosbarger, Mr. Lentsch, Mr. Senti stated they would attend the meeting.
Mr. Barton stated that he thought he could attend; Mr. Patrick stated he could not do so.
Mr. Supinger stated there would be copies of the Workable Program Application available for
members of the Commission.
VII. DIRECTOR'S CHOICE.
Mr. Supinger stated that he had nothing to .bring before the Commission.
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VIII. COMMISSION'S CHOICE.
Mr. Lentsch asked if the proposal to increase off-street parking requirements for efficiency
units and to require guest parking has been set for public hearing? Mrs. R~mans stated that
the proposal has been scheduled for public hearing on December 7, 1971.
Mr. Carlson discussed the proposed development on the Ken Caryl Ranch southwest of Englewood.
He stated that he felt this was an excellent example of zoning before planning. Discussion
followed. Mr. Barton commented that he felt it may result from a lack of a definite pattern
of "zoning" throughout the state. Mr. Supinger stated that he felt this may be one primary
reason the State Land Use Commission has been formed. Mr. Supinger pointed out that over
1 /2 of Arapahoe County is not zoned. Discussion followed. Mr. Berardini discussed sub-
dividers and developers who complete their projects in the County and then try to annex to
a City when they are reasonably assurred that the zoning will be given to coincide with the
development. He pointed out that special utility districts are frequently formed to accommodate
these developments. Mr. Berardini discussed provisions of an Iowa Statute which require
that developments within three miles of a municipal boundary must seek utility service from
that municipality, and annex to that City; Mr. Berardini then discussed an unsuccessful
attempt to get similar legislation ena9ted in Colorado.
The merits of a regional services district was discussed. Mr. Lentsch stated that he didn't
feel it would be of benefit to the City of Englewood, but that he could see benefit in such
a District to some smaller municipal areas.
Mr. Carlson noted that the next meeting, November 16th, is a "brain-storming session", and
that there will not be a set agenda. Mr. Supinger noted that there was one item that will
require Commission action that could not be readied for the agenda this even~ng. Discussion
followed.
Mr. Lentsch stated that he wanted the following information available for the "brainstorming
session": Traffic counts; how many people come to Cinderella City; cost of fast transit
system; feasibility of fast transit system, and if it isn't felt feasible, the cost of a
new bus system; federal monies available for what programs; improvement of Santa Fe Drive,
when and if; Columbine Freeway, is it realisitc; population; area of Englewood in acreage,
lots; land use maps; proposed development sketches for the KLZ Site; number of units, popula-
tion and number of cars in Englewood; traffic counts on #285.
Mrs. Vobejda asked if information on the future plans of Swedish Medical Center would be of
help, and if such information could be available.
Mr. Lentsch stated he felt the proposed mobile home park ordinance should be considered in
the session; discussion followed. Information on Capital Improvements Program, school census
and ages of children, were listed as items to be considered at the Brainstorming Session.
Mr. Mosbarger discussed a Planned Development complex at Chambers Road and East Mississippi .
in Aurora. Mr. Mosbarger felt this particular complex was a very fine example of a Planned
Development, and urged that if members of the Commission were interested in viewing and
touring the development, he would ar~ange same. Discussion followed.
Mosbarger moved:
Patrick seconded: The meeting be adjourned.
Motion carried; meeting adjourned at 9:l5 P.M.
Gertrude G. Welty
Recording Secretary
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MEMORANDUM TO THE ENGLEWOOD CITY COUNCIL REGARDING ACTION OR RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
DATE: November 9, 1971
SUBJECT: Flood Plain District Regulations
RECOMMENDATION:
Lentsch moved:
Vobejda seconded: The Planning Commission recommend to City Council that the proposed
Flood Plain District Ordinance be approved.
The motion carried.
Respectfull y subm itt ed,
By Order of the City Planning
and Zoning Commission.
Gertrude G . Welty
Recording Secretary
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I. CALL TO ORDER.
CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
November 16, 1971
The Regular Meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at 8:00
p.m. by Chairman Carlson.
Members present: Lentsch; Carlson; Barton ; Vobejda; Senti
Supinger, Ex-officio
Members absent: Henning; Mosbarger; Weist; Patrick
Also present: Assistant Director of Planning Romans
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
Mr. Carlson stated that the Minutes of the meeting o f November 9, 1971, were to be con-
sidered f or approval.
Lentsch moved:
Senti seconded: The Minutes of November 9, 1971, be approved as written.
Mrs. Henning entered the meeting and took her place with the Commission.
The vote was called; the motion carried. Minutes stand approved.
III. STREET VACATION
Portion of 3300 Block
South Ogden Street.
CASE #26-71
Mr. Supinger stated that the applicant, Emerson Enterprises, Inc., is owner of all privately
owned abutting land to the portion of the street for which the vacation is requested. Mr.
Supinger stated that this is the location of the G.C. Franc Greenhouse bounded by East
Girard Avenue, South Corona Street, East Hampden Avenue and South Emerson Street. Mr.
Supinger noted that the north 475 feet of the street had been vacated in 1927, and with all
the adjoining property in one ownership, there is no reason to retain the south 125 feet of
the street. Mr. Supinger stated that there are no utilities or easements existing in this
portion of the street.
Mr. Lentsch asked why the north portion of the street was vacated in 1927? Mrs. Ro~ans
stated that the City had no records going back that far on this matter, and that Arapahoe
County had only the record o f the vacation and no additional information. Mr. Lentsch asked
the reason f or the vacation request now? Mr. Supinger stated that it would be addeq to the
total site, and pointed out that Emerson Enterprises, Inc. is a subsidiary of Swedish Medical
Center, and noted that the Center does have plans to expand the "campus". Brief discussion
foll owed.
Senti moved:
Henning seconded:
The motion carried.
The Planning Commission recommend to City Council that the request to
vacate the following portion of South Ogden Street be approved:
"That portion of South Ogden Street adjoining Lots 25 , 26, 27, 28, and
29, Block 46, Evanston Broadway Addition, and Lots 20 , 21, 22, 23, and
24 , Block 47, Evanston Broadway Addition, all in Arapahoe County,
Colorado."
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