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CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
July 30, 1974
Special Meeting
CALL TO ORDER.
The Special Meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission
was called to order at · 7:45 P.M. by Chairman Martin.
Members present: Martin; Jorgenson; Jones; Brown; Wade; Tanguma
Supinger, Ex-officio
Members absent: Lentsch; Weist; Smith
Also present: Assistant Director Romans; Assistant City
Attorney Lee; Councilman Clayton
II. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM
Chairman Martin suggested that the requests of each department
be reviewed and then an attempt be made to set up priorities.
The Public Works Department requests were considered. Mr.
Brown stated that he felt the matter of storm drainage must
remain a very high priority. Mr. Jones agreed, but stated
he felt the West Hampden Place -West Hampden Avenue connector
should have high priority also. Discussion followed. Mr.
Supinger displayed a tentative design plan of the West Hampden
Place extension; he noted that this would involve several
properties and the actual removal of four houses, approximately
10 units total. Mr. Jones stated that he felt the extension
between South Cherokee and South Bannock should be considered
very soon; he stated he felt this would provide an easing of
the traffic congestion at Elati-West Hampden Place-U.S. 285,
and provide easier southbound maneuvering than attempting to
make a left turn at Cherokee or Elati and maneuver into the
proper lane for southbound turn at South Bannock Street.
Mr. Martin stated that he felt the Commission should get some
idea of the development planned for the area between Cherokee
and South Bannock, and how the street from Cherokee to South
Bannock would relate to the proposed development. Mr. Jones
stated he felt the First National Bank is interested in
accomplishing the improved traffic flow, but acknowledged we
did need more feed back on the matter. Discussion followed.
Mr. Supinger noted another problem that might enter into the
discussion is that the Voorhees Report recommended the Hampden
Place connector, but that Report has never been adopted by
the City, nor has it really been studied . He pointed out
that the access into Cinderella City from Hampden Place presents
problems --there is an inadequate stacking land from U.S. 285
northbound to the Hampden Place -Elati intersection. Mr.
Supinger noted that at the time of the Core Area Study, the
consultant considered moving the access into Cinderella City
from Elati further north to provide a more adequate stacking
space. Mr. Supinger noted if the West Hampden Place is ex-
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tended, it may increase the green light time for westbound
traffic, and thereby compound the stacking problem on South
Elati. Further discussion followed. Mr. Jones asked why the
Voorhees Report should not be considered; he noted that the
Report advocated extension of the one-way street system from
Yale to Belleview, or return to two-way streets. Mr. Jones
stated that he had received "letters from people pleading
for return of two-way traffic". Discussion on the preliminary
sketch ensued.
Mr. Martin asked if the CommissiCJl would be amenable to a
letter being sent to the Bank indicating the Commission's
interest in discussing the matter of West Hampden Place
extension to Bannock, and asking their feeling toward the
future development of the area. Discussion followed. No
adverse comments were made regarding the preparation of the
letter. Mr. Martin asked that such a letter be prepared for
his signature.
Mr. Jones discussed the Little Dry Creek Conduit; he stated
that even though the Public Works Department had not requested
funding for the conduit until 1976, he felt this should be a
top priority item. Mr. Jones noted the new developments which
may increase the storm drainage waters. Discussion followed.
Mr. Supinger noted that he felt one reason this was not included
in requests for 1975 funding, was the Council request that
Parks & Recreation Commission investigate acquisition and im-
provement of drainage ways, and he understood Little Dry Creek
was specifically mentioned. Mr. Jones acknowledged there was
some informal discussion regarding this; Mr. Jones further
stated that the downtown merchants and the Chamber of Commerce
have considered asking for the covering of Little Dry Creek
from Hampden to Bannock. Further discussion followed.
Jones moved:
Tanguma seconded: The Commission go on record requesting
consideration that Little Dry Creek Conduit
be placed in the 1975 Capital Improvement
Program.
AYE .S: Martin; Jorgenson; Jones; Brown; Wade; Tanguma
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Smith; Lentsch; Weist
The motion carried.
The Fire Department requests were then considered. Mrs. Wade
asked if land acquisition for a fire station in the northeast
section of the City should be a 1975 priority? Mr. Martin
noted that Chief Hamilton seemed more concerned with access
to and from Station #3 on West Belleview Avenue. The joint
training facilities to be shared by Englewood and Littleton
were then discussed. Mr. Jones stated that land acquisition
is urgent for this project. City Attorney Lee noted that the
question of flood plain had arisen on the location initially
considered; this is being looked into.
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Further discussion on the requests ensued. Mr. Martin noted
that manpower was certainly a factor, and stated he understood
the volunteer force was to be increased. Mr. Clayton stated
there is a committee studying the manpower needs at the present
time; he stated that he felt Council would receive the results
of this study before long.
The Police Department had no requests for Capital Improvements
this year. Mr. Supinger stated that he had checked with Chief
Clasby on funding for communication needs in relation with the
SCAT program, and was informed that these needs will be covered
by the Federal grant (LEAA).
Parks & Recreation requests were then considered. Mr. Martin
noted that Sheridan has authorized the sale of land to the
City of Englewood for a golf course; he asked if any of the
funds needed for the purchase and development would come from
revenue sharing? Mr. Supinger stated he did not know. Mr.
Jones stated there have been some funds budgeted in 1974 for
this project.
Mr. Martin stated he had been informed there is a great need
for a bathhouse at Sinclair Swim Pool. Mr. Tanguma asked
what problem was created by using the school? Mr. Supinger
stated that it is not convenient, and the people think there is
a problem. Discussion followed. Mr. Brown stated he felt
there could be a health problem with no bathhouse and people
not wanting to use the facilities in the school for showers
before swimming.
Mrs. Wade stated that the tennis and handball courts in the
Centennial Acres Park should be moved up to 1976; she stated
that the need is "yesterday".
Wade moved:
Brown seconded: The handball and tennis courts in Centennial
Acres Park be moved to 1976 priorities.
AYES: Tanguma; Martin; Jorgenson; Jones; Brown; Wade
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Smith; Lentsch; Weist
The motion carried.
Mr. Tanguma asked if the rifle range was needed in Englewood?
Mrs. Wade stated she had heard there was to be a range in the
Police-Fire complex in the basement. Mr. Brown pointed out that
the range is needed to (1) provide a place for police training,
and (2) to provide a place for hunters to learn proper gun
manners and training. Mr. Brown stated that there are recreational
shooting purposes it could be used for also. Mr. Supinger
stated this might be a good facility to share with another
community. Mr. Tanguma questioned whether Parks & Recreation
should concern themselves with a rifle range.
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Mr. Jones asked if there were actual figures on the storm
drainage damage in Belleview Park? He stated that he had
difficulty realizing there may be $100,000 worth of damage.
Mr. Martin noted that five Lions Club members volunteered
to do what they could to repair the train track.
M~. Martin asked if the proposed greenhouse would be located
on West Union where the nursery is? Mr. Supinger stated that
he did not know if a decision had been made on the location.
Mr. Tanguma stated he felt the community building should be
funded in 1975. Discussion followed.
Tanguma moved: Funding for the Community Building be moved
to 1975.
The motion died for lack of second.
Mr . Clayton stated that the matter of a community building is
under consideration at the present time; he is trying to get
definite information together on what type of facility is needed
in the community. He stated there was a possibility that
Council might approve renovation of the police/fire building
on West Girard at Bannock Street. Mr. Clayton stated that he
had contacted the Chamber of Commerce; they have agreed to
act as a clearing house on this project, and are doing the
study for the Council •
Mr. Tanguma noted that land values may rise 10% to 12% in the
next year; he felt there was a real need to appropriate funds
for this project at the earliest opportunity. Mr. Martin
stated he felt the City would have to know what type facility
is needed before one could even discuss the matter of land or
how much land might be needed. Mr. Tanguma pointed out that
all the information should be available by the end of this
year. He stated that if funds are not available for land
purchase in 1975, the City won't get the land.
Mr. Brown noted that this is a tight budget year, and he
doubted there would be sufficient funds in 1975 to keep up
the on-going projects plus many new projects.
Mr. Jones commented that he was under the impression the meeting
rooms in the new Police/Fire Center are not used as fully as
they might be. He also commented that the elderly people want
a "centrally located site."
Mr. Clayton further discussed the study that is on-going; he
stated that he cannot find the "need" for such a facility
from anyone he has talked to. Mr. Jones discussed the need
for security of such a facility, noting that all types of
groups would be using this building. Mr. Clayton asked if
the members of the Commission felt it should be a sizeable
auditorium-type facility? Mr. Tanguma stated tm t was not
his thinking; he felt a community building contained facilities
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for teen-age dancing; elderly people could play cards, shuffle
board, this type of thing. Mr. Supinger noted that Parks and
Recreation also has a need for space for their craft classes,
and storage of their materials. Further discussion followed.
The requests of the Community Development Department were
consideredo Bicycle paths were briefly discussedo Mr. Tanguma
stated that he felt the Senior Citizens Center could be part
of the community center. Mr. Supinger pointed out that senior
citizens will want their own area in such a facility, as will
some other groups.
Mr. Supinger stated that he had designed the Community Develop-
ment requests as a "laundry list", and that he personally felt
the Housing Authority implementation would be the most important
item. He noted that the Authority will need more funds than
they will receive from the Federal Governmento
At 9:50 P.M., Mr. Brown excused himself from the meeting.
Discussion on the requests ensued. The following is the
priority list for 1975 Capital Improvements Program.
1. Storm Sewers.
2. River Redevelopment.
3. Little Dry Creek Conduit.
4. Rebuilding or Relocation of Fire Station #30
5. Library Expansion.
6, West Hampden Avenue-Hampden Place connector.
7. Bathhouse at Sinclair Swim Pool.
8. Housing Authority Implementation.
9. Senior Surrey Vehicle.
10. Street Overlay Program.
No priority is given to these items:
Paving District Program.
Sidewalk District.
Replace 1972 Chassis on Rescue -1 with diesel unit.
Centennial Park land acquisition.
Greenhouse.
Centennial Park Shore Development.
Belleview Storm Damage Repair.
General Park Improvements.
City Mobile Unit.
Bicycle Paths.
Traffic Island Planting.
Senior Citizens Center o
Commercial Area Beautification.
South Platte River Greenbelt Park.
Water Distribution Improvements.
Sanitary Sewer Extensions .
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1976 Capital Improvements
Storm Drainage.
River Redevelopment.
Community Building/Senior Citizen Center.
Fire Training & Testing Facility.
Little Dry Creek Conduit.
Centennial Park -Tennis and Handball Courts.
Street Overlay Program~
Paving District Program.
Sidewalk District.
OPTICOM Controls for Ten Additional Intersections.
Replacement of Fire Hose.
Centennial Park Picnic Area, Gardens.
Ice Rink.
Housing Authority Implementation.
Bicycle Paths.
Commercial Area Beautification.
South Platte River Greenbelt Park.
Water Distribution Improvements.
Sanitary Sewer Extensions .
1977 Capital Improvements
Little Dry Creek Conduit.
Paving District Program.
Street Overlay Program .
Sidewalk District.
New Aerial-pumper Combination.
Three new staff cars (Fire).
River Redevelopment.
Housing Authority Implementation.
Bicycle Paths. .
South Platte River Greenbelt Park.
Commercial Area Beautification.
Water Distribution Improvements.
Sanitary Sewer Extensions.
1978 Capital Improvements
Str~et Overlay Program.
Paving District Program.
Little Dry Creek Conduit.
Sidewalk District.
Replace 1948 Pumper.
River Redevel opmen t .
Community Building -preschool play area.
Dartmouth Park Swim Pool.
Rifle Range.
Mountain Park.
Housing Authority Implementation.
South Platte River Greenbelt Park •
Commercial Area Beautification.
Water Distribution Improvements.
Sanitary Sewer Extensions.
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1979 Capital Improvements
Street Overlay Program.
Paving District Program.
Sidewalk District.
Construction of Fire Station in NE Area of City.
River Redevelopment.
Bates-Logan Park Improvements.
McLellan Reservoir ·
Housing Authority Implementation.
South Platte River Greenbelt Park.
Water Distribution Improvements.
Sanitary Sewer Extensions.
1980 Capital Improvements
Street Overlay Program.
Paving District Program .
Sidewalk District.
Replace Fire Pumper.
River Redevelopment.
Bates-Logan Improvements.
McLellan Reservoir -Picnic Shelters.
South Platte River Greenbelt Park.
Water Distribution Improvements .
Sanitary Sewer Extension •
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Wade seconded: The Planning Commission recommend the above
list of Capital Improvements to the City
Manager.
AYES: Wade; Martin; Jorgenson; Jones
NAYS: Tanguma
ABSENT: Weist; Smith; Lentsch; Brown
The motion carried.
III. MISCELLANEOUS
Mr .. Supinger stated that the City Council has asked the Planning
Commission to attend a dinner meeting on August 5, 1974, 6:00 P.M.
in th e Library Conference Room. Upon checking with the members,
only one commissioner indicated they could attend that meeting.
The Director was instructed to see if this meeting with Council
could be delayed until more Commission members could attend .
Mr. Supinger noted that there are no items on the agenda for
August 6th. Mr. Martin stated he saw no need to ha ve the
meeting. Mr. Jones discussed the need of the Commi s si o n to
meet with the merchants of the downtown area on th e parking
matter. Mr. Jones noted that there is some vacant land in
the downtown area at the present time, but if there is much
de l ay in attempting to secure it for parking, we may l o se
the land. Mr. Jones stated that the merchants f eel the Co m-
mi s sion should be working with them to bring about a n im p rove -
ment district.
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Mr. Martin noted that the Commission should definitely be
represented on the Committee.
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Mr. Jones stated that he had discussed the matter with Mr.
Peterson of the Chamber, and the Chamber is developing an
ownership and lease questionnaire. Mr. Martin asked that the
Commission have a copy of the questionnaire. Discussion
followed. Mr. Supinger noted that a parking survey was done
in connection with the -Core Area Study both on weekdays and
Saturdays; the study showed there was adequate parking space
but it is poorly located. Mr. Clayton noted that the parking
survey was done on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays in
April and May at approximately 10 a.m. and 2 p.m., which does
not reflect the heavy usage times. Discussion followed.
Mr. Martin suggested setting up a special meeting with the
merchants regarding parking, or the Chamber of Commerce on
August 13th.
Mr. Martin stated that he is on the RTD Citizens Action Com-
mittee, and one of the members of this group, a businessman
on South Broadway, has written a letter in response to an
article in the Denver Post regarding the testing of express
lanes from downtown Denver to I-25 on Broadway. The gentleman
has written the letter opposing such express lanes, and has
signed it as a representative of the Planning Commission.
Mr. Martin stated that he felt this was gross misrepresentation,
of both the gentleman in question and the Commission .
Mr. Supinger stated that as he recalled, this gentleman was
asked to attend the RTD meetings by the former chairman; there
was no official authorization from the Commission as a body,
however. Mr. Martin stated he had asked the gentleman where
he had received the authority to "represent" the Commission,
and received no answer to his question. Mr. Martin stated that
he felt the problem lies with the Citizens Action Committee to
solve, and that RTD has nothing to do with the problems of the
downtown merchants. Mr. Martin stated he felt this was poor
public relations. Mr. Supinger suggested that possibly a letter
should be sent to the gentleman with a copy to RTD indicating
that he is not the representative of the Planning Commission,
and should refrain from giving that impression. Discussion
foliowed.
Mr. Martin stated he was in receipt of a memorandum naming the
limited partners in the Larwin Corporation. The following is
a list of these partners:
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ENGLEWOOD ADULT LIMITED PARTNERS
1. Ronald J. Banks
3500 Farm Hill Drive
Falls Church, Va. 22209
3. Morton L. Berfield
7404 Haddington Place
Bethesda, Md. 20034
5. Bruce L. Gilmore, M.D.
918 Lindsay Place
Alexandria, Va. 22304
7. Jerome Canter
Dorothy Canter
6009 Shady Oak Lane
Bethesda, Md. 20034
9. Leonard T. DeLisio
3205 Cambridge Court
Fairfax, Va. 22030
11. Norman H. Isaacson, M.D.
Estelle Isaacson
7223 Selkirk Drive
Bethesda, Md. 20034
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2. Michael A. Barnard
Parnard Associates, Inc.
1990 M. Street, NW
Washington, D.C. 20036
4. Paul S. Berger
1229 19th Street NW
Washington, D.C. 20036
6. Thomas H. Burrowes
5209 Chamberlin Avenue
Chevy Chase, Md. 20015
8. David s. Croyder
7012 Darby Road
Bethesda, Md. 20034
10. Francis J. Fabrizio
1834 K. Street, NW
Washington, D.C. 20006
12. Rosario Marinucci
3317 Powder Mill Road
Adelphi, Md.
13. George F. Miller, Jr. 14. John E. Nolan, Jr.
1303 Knox Place
Alexandria, Va. 22304
15. Boris Rabkin, M.D. 16.
17.
Dorothy Sislen Rabkin, M.D.
315 Scott Drive
Silver Spring, Md. 20904
Oppenheimer-Matthews Venture 18.
815 Connecticut Avenue, NW
.Washington, D.C. 20006
ENGLEWOOD FAMILY LIMITED PARTNERS
1. Mary Lieb, Trustee under the 2.
Will of Joseph Lieb
The ·Four Winds Apartments
9225 Collins Avenue,
Surfside, Florida
24 Crofton Street
Chevy Chase, Md. 20015
Paul M. Vito
711 Kennedy Street, NW
Washington, D.C. 20011
DRS Partners-1972 Partnership
c/o L. T. Donatelli
7212 Helmsdale Road
Bethesda, Md. 20034
Sol Young
79 Ocean Drive East
Stamford, Connecticut
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3. Richard Dellheim
48 Rock Glen Road
Overbrook Hills, Pa.
5. Nathaniel Lieb
311 Wynne Lane
Narberth, Pa.
7. E. Eugene Mason
4. Harvey Rosenbluth
288 Melrose Avenue
Merion, Pa.
6. Walter Koelbel
5291 Yale Circle
Denver, Colorado
8. Dana Empringham
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2300 Two Girard Plaza
Philadelphia, Pa.
9553 West Pico Boulevard
Los Angeles, California
Mr. Martin noted that he has received a copy of a letter from
Larwin stating they cannot aid financially in the undergrounding
of utilities at Floyd Park~
Mr. Lee noted that he would be out of town on vacation on
August 20th.
The meeting adjourned at 10:40 P.M .
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MEMORANDUM TO TIIE ENGLEWOOD CITY MANAGER REGARDING ACTION OR
RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
DATE: July 30, 1974
SUBJECT: Capital Improvement Program
RECOMMENDATION:
Jorgenson moved:
Wade seconded: The Commission recommend the following list
of Capital Improvements to the City Manager:
1975 Capital Improvements
1. Storm Sewers.
2. River Redevelopment.
3. Little Dry Creek Conduit.
4. Rebuilding or Relocation of Fire Station #3.
5. Library Expansion.
6. West Hampden Avenue-Hampden Place connector.
7. Bathhouse at Sinclair Swim Pool.
8. Housing Authority Implementation.
9. Senior Surrey Vehicle.
10. Street Overlay Program .
No priority is given to these items for 1975:
Paving District Program.
Sidewalk District.
Replace 1972 Chass i s on Rescue -1 with diesel unit (Fire).
Centennial Park Land Acquisition ..
Greenhouse.
Centennial Park Shore Development.
Belleview Storm Damage Repair.
General Park Improvements.
City Mobile Unit.
Bicycle Paths.
Traffic Island Planting.
Senior Citizens Center.
Comniercial Area Beautification.
South Platte River Greenbelt Park.
Water Distribution Improvements.
Sanitary Sewer Extensions.
1976 Capital Improvements
Storm Drainage.
River Redevelopment.
Community Building/Senior Citizen Center.
Fire Training & Testing Facility .
Little Dry Creek Conduit.
Centennial Park -Tennis and Handball Courts.
Street Overlay Program.
Paving Di strict Program .
Sidewa l k District.
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1976 Capital Improvements (Continued)
OPTICOM Controls for Ten Additional Intersections.
Replacement of Fire Hose.
Centennial Park Picnic Area, Gardens.
Ice Rink.
Housing Authority Implementation.
Bicycle Paths.
Commercial Area Beautification.
South Platte River Greenbelt Park.
Water Distribution Improvements.
Sanitary Sewer Extensions.
1977 Capital Improvements
Little Dry Creek Conduit.
Paving District Program.
Street Overlay Program.
Sidewalk District.
New Aerial-pumper Combination.
Three new staff cars (Fire).
River Redevelopment.
Housing Authority Implementation.
Bicycle Paths.
South Platte River Greenbelt Park.
Commercial Area Beautification •
Water Distribution Improvements.
Sanitary Sewer Extensions.
1978 Capital Improvements
Street Overlay Program.
Paving District Program.
Little Dry Creek Conduit.
Sidewalk District.
Replace 1948 Pumper.
River Redevelopment.
Community Building -preschool play area.
Dartmouth Park Swim Pool.
Rifle Range.
Mountain Park.
Housing Authority Implementation.
South Platte River Greenbelt Park.
Commercial Area Beautification.
Water Distribution Improvements.
Sanitary Sewer Extensions.
1979 Capital Improvements
Street Overlay Program.
Paving District Program.
Sidewalk District •
Construction of Fire Station in NE Area of City.
River Redevelopment.
Bates-Logan Park Improvements.
McLellan Reservoir.
Housing Authority Implementation •
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1979 Capital Improvements (Continued)
South Platte River Greenbelt Parko
Water Distribution Improvements.
Sanitary Sewer Extensions.
1980 Capital Improvements
Street Overlay Program~
Paving District Program.
Sidewalk District.
Replace Fire Pumper.
River Redevelopment.
Bates-Logan Improvements.
McLellan Reservoir -Picnic Shelterso
South Platte River Greenbelt Park.
Water Distribution Improvementso
Sanitary Sewer Extension.
AYES: Wade; Martin; Jorgenson; Jones
NAYS: Tanguma
ABSENT: Weist; Smith; Lentsch; Browh
The motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
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By Order of the City Planning
and Zoning Commission .