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CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 17, 1974
I. CALL TO ORDER.
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission
was called to order at 8:00 PoMo by Chairman Martin.
Members present: Jorgenson; Martin; Smith; Tanguma; Wade;
Jones
Supinger, Ex-officio
Members absent: Lentsch; Weist; Brown
Also present: Assistant Director Romans; Assistant City
Attorney Lee; Planning Assistant House.
IIo APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
Mr. Martin stated that the Minutes of August 20, 1974, and
September 4, 1974, were to be considered for approval.
Jorgenson moved:
Jones seconded: The Minutes of September 4, 1974, and
August 20, 1974, be approved as written.
Mr. Martin stated he felt he had been misinterpreted in a
statement attributed to him on Page 13 of the August 20, 1974,
Minutes. He noted that he felt he had said the structures
throughout Colorado which are similar to the Larwin structures
"weren't bad looking with landscaping, etc." Discussion
followedo
Mr. Weist entered and took his place with the Commission.
Martin moved:
Jones seconded: The Minutes of August 20, 1974, Page 13, be
amended.
AYES: Martin; Smith; Tanguma; Wade; Jones; Jorgenson
NAYS~ None
ABSTAIN: Weist
ABSENT: Lentsch; Brown
The motion carried.
The vote to approve the Minutes of August 20, 1974, as amended,
and September 4, 1974, as written, was called.
AYES: Martin; Smith; Tanguma; Wade; Jones; Jorgenson
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: Weist
ABSENT: Lentsch; Brown
The motion carried.
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III. SUBDIVISION WAIVER
City of Englewood
Ralph Haynie
CASE #28-74
Mr.Supinger stated that the request for subdivision waiver
involves property used as the site of Fire Station #4; this
Fire Station is to be relocated, and a portion of this property
is to be , traded to a Mr. Ralph Haynie in exchange for property
he owns that is needed for the waste water treatment plant
that is to be constructed. This is a division of one parcel,
and a subdivision plat or waiver must accompany such division.
Mr. Supinger stated that the staff is of the opinion that the
subdivision waiver is the route to follow, and recommends
approval of the subdivision waiver with the retention of a
utility easement on the north side of the property.
Mr. Martin discussed the cost of the property the City is
obtaining from Mr. Haynie. He asked why the property is so
much more valuable than the surrounding property? Mrs.
Romans noted that there are improvements on the property the
city is obtaining from Mr. Haynie .
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Mr. Lee noted that this property is involved in a condemnation
suit; a certified appraisal has been made of the property and
this is the basis for the cost to the City. Mr. Lee emphasized
that public funds are being paid on the basis of a certified
appraisal made by a person qualified to make such appraisal.
Mr. Supinger noted that City Council has already approved the
trade of property.
Mr. Weist asked about the disposition of a 16' easement on the
east side of the property? Mrs. Romans stated this is not
being conveyed to Mr. Haynie; this will serve as access to the
water tower.
Mr. Martin commended the staff on the staff report.
Wade moved:
Jones seconded: The Planning Commission approve the Subdivision
Waiver requested by the City of Englewood, as
set forth in Staff Report #28-74. The parcel is to be divided
as follows:
Parcel I: Commencing at the Southwest Corner of the Northwest
One-Quarter (NW 1/4) Northwest One-Quarter (NW 1/4) Section 33,
Township 4 South, Range 68 West of the 6th P.M. Thence North
along the West line of said Section 33, 230.00 Feet; Thence on
an Angle to the Right and East 89°39' a Distance of 110.50 feet
to the True Point of Beginning; Thence continuing East along
said course 97.5 Feet; Thence on an Angle to the Right and
South 90°21' a Distance of 170.00 Feet; Thence on an Angle to
the Right and West 89°39' a Distance of 16.0 Feet; Thence on
an Angle to the Right and North 90°21' a Distance of 69.80
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Feet; Thence on an Angle to the Left and West 90°21' a Distance
of 81.5 Feet; Thence on an Angle to the Right and North 90°21'
a Distance of 100.20 Feet to the True Point of Beginning.
Said Tract contains 10,886.3 Square Feet.
Parcel II: Commencing at the Southwest Corner of the Northwest
One-Quarter (NW 1/4) Northwest One-Quarter (NW 1/4) Section 33,
Township 4 South, Range 68 West of the 6th P.M. Thence North
along the West line of said Section 33, 230.00 Feet; Thence on
an Angle to the Right and East 89°39' a Distance of 30.00 Feet
to the True Point of Beginning; Thence continuing East along
said Course 80.50 Feet; Thence on an Angle to the Right and
South 90°21' a Distance of 100.20 Feet; Thence on an Angle
to the Left and East 90°21' a Distance of 81.50 Feet; Thence
on an Angle to the Right and South 90°21' a Distance of 69.80
Feet to a Point on the North Line of West Bates Ave.; Thence
on an Angle to the Right and West 89°39' a Distance of 162.00
Feet along the North Line of West Bates Ave. to its intersection
with the East Line of South Zuni Street; Thence on an Angle to
the Right and North 90°21' and along the East line of South
Zuni St. a Distance of 170.00 Feet to the True Point of Beginning,
retaining an easement across the north forty (40) feet thereof
for drainage and utili~y purposes. Said Tract contains
19,373.7 Square Feet.
The Commission finds in granting the subdivision waiver that:
1. The necessary rights-of-way for South Zuni Street and
West Bates Avenue are owned by the City and are in the
process of being dedicated to the public specifically for
rights-of-way purposes at this time.
2. Utilities are available to serve the site and an easement
across the north 40 feet of Parcel II will be retained for
the water system at the time of conveyance of the property.
3. No substantial benefits are to be gained by the City or by
the public from requiring a Subdivision Plat to be prepared,
approved and filed in order to divide this site into two
parcels as described on the previous page.
AYES: Martin; Smith; Tanguma; Wade; Weist; Jones; Jorgenson;
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Brown; Lentsch
The motion carried .
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IV. RIGHTS-OF-WAY DEDICATION
West Bates Avenue
South Zuni Street
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CASE #29-74
Mr. Supinger noted that these two streets border the parcel
of land for which a subdivision waiver was just approved; as
long as the City owned the property, there was no need to
dedicate the rights-of-ways. Now, however, with the trading
of the property to Mr. Haynie, it is felt that the rights-of-
way for both West Bates Avenue and South Zuni Street be
guaranteed by dedication. Mr. Supinger stated that it is
the suggestion of the staff that a recommendation be made to
City Council that the rights-of-way be dedicated for street
purposes.
Jones moved:
Jorgenson seconded: The Planning Commission recommend to
City Council that the following rights-
of way be dedicated to the City:
1. Right-of-way For South Zuni Street:
Beginning at the Southwest Corner of the Northwest One-
Quarter (NW 1/4) Northwest One-Quarter (NW 1/4) Section
33, Township 4 South, Range 68 West of the 6th P.M. thence
North along the West Line of said Section 33, 230.00 Feet;
Thence on an Angle to the Right and East 89°39' a Distance
of 30.00 feet; Thence on an Angle to the Right and South
90°21', and Parallel to the West Line of Section 33 a
Distance of 230.00 Feet to the South Line of the NW 1/4
NW 1/4 of Section 33; Thence on an Angle to the Right and
West 89°39' and along said South Line 30.00 Feet to the
Point of Beginning. Said Tract contains 6900 Square Feet .
2. Right-of-way For West Bates Avenue:
Commencing at the Southwest Corner of the Northwest One-
Quarter (NW 1/4) Northwest One-Quarter (NW 1/4) Section
33, Township 4 South, Range 68 West of the 6th P.M.
Thence East along the South Line of NW 1/4 NW 1/4 Section
33, 30.00 Feet, to the True Point of Beginning; Thence
continuing East along said Course 178.00 Feet; Thence on
an Angle to the Left and North 89°39' a Distance of 60.00
Feet; Thence on an Angle to the Left and West 90°21' a
Distance of 178.00 Feet; Thence on an Angle to the Left
and South 89°39' a Distance of 60.00 Feet to the True
Point of Beginning. Said Tract Contains 10,680.0 Square
Feet.
AYES: Smith; Tanguma; Wade; Weist; Jones; Jorgenson; Martin
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Brown; Lentsch
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V. DIRECTOR'S CHOICE
Mr. Supinger stated that regarding the matter of conversion
of South Bannock and South Sherman Streets from one-way traffic
to two-way traffic, the conversion of Hampden Avenue to one-
way east bound and the extension of West Hampden Place, he
would like to suggest that a recommendation be made that no
action be taken at this time. Mr. Supinger also suggested a
review of the Master Street Plan might be in order.
Mr. Martin stated that he felt this was a small part of the
entire picture as far as transportation needs in the City of
Englewood are concerned. Mr. Martin stated that he felt
additional discussion was necessary on the over-all picture,
and attempt to project the needs of the future; until this is
done, he didn't feel the Commission could make a recommendation.
Mr. Jorgenson pointed out that in view of RTD and PRT plans,
the City does not at this time know what the needs in traffic
circulation are. Mr. Jorgenson stated he felt Mr.Supinger's
suggestion is well taken.
Mr. Jones stated that ~e felt the situation that brought about
the request to change Bannock and Sherman back to two-way traffic
is one that has involved the downtown merchants' group. He
stated he had attended a meeting at the Chamber of Commerce
where the traffic pattern was discussed; there was no concensus
at this meeting. He stated he felt "most of them do recognize
that Bannock has much more to do with circulation problems than
does Sherman." Mr. Jones stated there was some question whether
or not Council could take action even if a recommendation was
forthcoming from the Planning Commission unless and until there
is a review of the referendum vote pertaining to one-way
traffic on South Bannock, etc. in 1968 or 1969.
Mr. Jones stated he was under the impression a legal opinion
has been sought on the possible reconsideration of the vote.
Mr. Jones stated he would agree that no action should be taken
until such time as the Master Street Plan has been reviewed
and up-dated.
Discussion followed. Mr. Lee asked if the Commission desired
an opinion on the matter of reconsideration of the referendum
vote? Mr. Jones asked Mr. Lee to check into whether or not
Council had given such direction to City Attorney Berardini.
Discussion followed. Mrs. Romans reviewed the background of
the one-way vs. two-way streets; in 1958, Mr. Lacy, who was in
charge of Planning and Traffic, made a study of the street
pattern. A one-way street system was devised to be implemented
in three stages; the first stage was indeed implemented, the
remaining two stages were not. Professor William Eager, who
is a quite well known traffic engineer, then worked with the
City staff on designating t1·affic flow, and recommended that
Bannock and Sherman be a one-way cuplet. It was the responsi-
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bility of the traffic department to work out the actual traffic
pattern; the one-way streets are designated by the Traffic
Engineer, according the Municipal Code. It was the opinion of
the staff that Bannock and Sherman should be extended from
Yale to Chenango. It was the Merchants' Association that
put the matter of one-way streets and left-turn prohibition at
Bannock/U.S. 285 on the ballot at the time of the court suit
over such left turn movement at that intersection.
Mr. Jones stated that the State Highway Department would, he
was sure, ban left-turn movements at Bannock and U.S. 285.
He noted that both Bannock and South Sherman intersect with
U.S. 285, and that left-turn movements would necessarily
affect the timing of the signals. Discussion followed.
Mr. Martin suggested that a study session be set for October
15, 1974, 7:30 P.M. to further consider the street patterns.
Jones moved:
Jorgenson seco.nded: The Planning Commission recommend to
City Council that no action be taken on
the following until further studies have been completed:
1. Conversion of Bant110ck and Sherman Streets within the
limits of Dartmouth Avenue and Oxford Avenue from one-way
to two-way streets;
2. Conversion of Hampden Avenue within the limits of South
Acoma Street and South Bannock Street from two-way to one-
way eastbound in order to accommodate the time sequences
due to the conversion of South Bannock Street to two-way.
3. Extension of Hampden Place eastward from South Cherokee
Street to at least South Bannock Street and possibly on
through to tie in with Hampden Avenue.
AYES: Tanguma; Wade; Weist; Jones; Jorgenson; Martin; Smith
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Brown; Lentsch
The motion carried.
Mr. Supinger asked how many of the Commission members planned
to attend the meeting of Arapahoe County Planning Commissioners
hosted by Greenwood Village on September 26, at 6:00 P.M.
Those indicating they would attend were: Martin; Jorgenson;
Wade and Smith.
Mr. Supinger referred to a letter from the Englewood Board of
Education relative to a joint meeting of the Board, the Chamber
of Commerce Board of Directors, City Council and the Planning
Commission. This meeting has been set for October 9, 1974,
7:30 P.M. in the Administration Building. Those indicating
they would attend: Wade; Tanguma; Smith; Weist; Jorgenson;
Jones; and Martin, who indicated he would be late to the meetirg.
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Mr. Supinger stated he would like to give a short presentation
on design review. Mr. Supinger gave members a copy of an
address given by William F. Buckley, Jr., to the Regional Council
of Architectural Registration Board, and a copy of the Guidelines
for Design Review by the California Chapter of the American
Institute of Architects, and a draft copy of a suggested
ordinance for design review. Slides were shown the Commission
of examples where architectural or design review was used
versus examples where architectural or design review is not
used.
Mr. Supinger noted that design review does not dictate what
type or style of architecture developers may use; it does try
to make sure a development does not "impose" on its neighbors,
and that the developmen t is well carried out.
Mr. Martin stated that he felt des i gn review is a good idea,
and would like to see a design review board established in
Englewood.
Discussion followed. Composition of the architectural review
board was discussed. Mr. Supinger stated that he didn't recom-
mend any "lay" person: but rather persons that would have a
professional background and experience in visual arts. Further
discussion followed. Street furniture was discussed. The
matter of bus bench maintenance was discussed, and Mr. Jones
noted the bench at Elati and Girard Avenue has been damaged
for some time.
Mr. Jones asked if the provisions governing the moving of
structures into and within the City are to be written into
the Building Code, or will they be part of the Zoning Ordinance?
Mr. Supinger stated that it is proposed they be separate from
the Zoning Ordinance, but does suggest that approval of the
Planning Commission be secured prior to location of the structure
in the City.
Further discussion regarding design review ensued. Mr. Supinger
stated that such a board would have to be established after an
Ordinance implementing design review is passed. Mr. Supinger
suggested that this be further discussed, possibly in October.
It was determined that the matter of design review should be
placed on the agenda for the next regular meeting.
Mrs. Romans noted that the Multi-family Development Standards
Review Committee has recommended that design review committee
be considered.
V. COMMISSION'S CHOICE
Mr. Martin referred to the report on proposed Bicycle Trails;
he noted that Englewood is in need of these trails, and stated
he felt the Commission should study this report preparatory to
further discussion.
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Mr. Jones suggested that when such a program is begun, that it
be begun in areas most acceptable to the public; he noted that
he felt mistakes had been made in the past by making programs
to inclusive.
It was noted that the matter of Bicycle Trails should be in-
cluded on the agenda for the next meeting.
Mr. Martin discussed the RTD Citizens' Action Committee; he
noted that at the last meeting he did not see one person in
attendance who was an official representative of the City.
Mr. Martin stated that the RTD Citizens' Committee has been
meeting regularly for approximately eleven months, and that he
has attended most of these meetings. Mr. Martin noted that
the last meeting was supposed to be the final meeting before
voting on the alignment of PRT •. Mr. Martin stated that he
felt the lack of representation by the City was disgusting
and discouraging. Mr. Martin noted there were approximately
350 to 400 persons in attendance.
Mr. Supinger stated that he was under the impression the City
of Englewood has taken a position on the location of the PRT
Route, and that the Pl~nning Commission and Council had in-
dicated favor of the Santa Fe alignment. Mr. Martin pointed
out that this "position" does not represent a vote to the
Board of Directors of RTD.
Mr. Martin stated that there will be a meeting of RTD on the
19th of September, at which time vote will be taken; everyone
who has attended one of these meetings is entitled to attend
Thursday and vote on their choice of PRT alignment.
The various alignments as proposed were discussed. Mr. Martin
stated that the 20-25 year population growth will be such we
will have to have more than a bus system --we must provide
rapid transit.
Mr. Supinger noted that it was generally agreed, up until last
spring, that Englewood was better prepared for the impact of
the RTD route and station than any other municipality in the
region. With the demise of the Core Area Plan, there is no
plan .for the impact of rapid transit on the community, and the
City needs to get some plans for this impact. Mr . Supinger
pointed out that Denver is hiring specific staff people and
obtaining federal grants to study the impact of the mass
transit system in Denver. Further discussion followed.
Mr. Martin noted there will be a PRT station in the vicinity
of Santa Fe Drive and Hampden Avenue. He stated that the next
meeting would be at 7:30 P.M. at the Englewood Police/Fire
Center, and urged members who had attended previous meetings
to attend this meeting. Mr. Martin suggested contacting Ms.
Anne Williams for a roster of attendees.
Mr. Jones noted that there will have to be ample storage area
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for vehicles of the PRT riders; this will be a major impact on
the area, as well as the pollution concentration, etc.
Mr. Jones discussed express routes on Santa Fe. He noted that
South Broadway cannot handle all the traffic it now carries
plus the express route traffic. Brief discussion followed.
The meeting adjourned at 9:55 P.M .
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MEMORANDUM TO THE ENGLEWOOD CITY COUNCIL REGARDING ACTION OR
RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
DATE: September 17, 1974
SUBJECT: Rights-of-Way Dedication for West Bates Avenue and
South Zuni Street
RECOMMENDATION:
Jones moved:
Jorgenson seconded: The Planning Commission recommend to
City Council that the following rights-
of-way be dedicated to the City:
1. Right-of-way for South Zuni Street:
Beginning at the Southwest Corner of the Northwest One-
Quarter (NW 1/4) Northwest One-Quarter (NW 1/4) Section
33, Township 4 South, Range 68 West of the 6th P.M.,
thence North along the West Line of said Section 33, 230.00
Feet; Thence on an Angle to the Right and East 89°39' a
Distance of 30.00 Feet; Thence on an Angle to the Right
and South 90°21', and Parallel to the West Line of S~ction
33 a Distance of 230.00 Feet to the South Line of the NW
1/4 NW 1/4 of Section 33; Thence on an Angle to the Right
and West 89°39' and along said South Line 30.00 Feet to
the Point of Beginning. Said Tract contains 6900 Square
Feet.
2. Right-of-way for West Bates Avenue:
Commencing at the Southwest Corner of the Northwest One-
Quarter (NW 1/4) Northwest One-Quarter(NW 1/4) Section
33, Township 4 South, Range 68 West of the 6th P.M.,
Thence East along the South Line of NW 1/4 NW 1/4 Section
33, 30.00 Feet, to the True Point of Beginning; Thence
continuing East along said Course 178.00 Feet; Thence on
an Angle to the Left and North 89°39' a Distance of 60.00
Feet; Thence on an Angle to the Left and West 90°21' a Dis-
tance of 178.00 Feet; Thence on an Angle to the Left and
South 89°39' a Distance of 60.00 Feet to the True Point of
Beginning. Said Tract Contains 10,680.0 Square Feet.
AYES: Smith; Tanguma; Wade; Weist; Jones; Jorgenson; Martin
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Brown; Lentsch
The motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
By Order of the City Planning
and Zoning Commission.
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MEMORANDUM TO THE ENGLEWOOD CITY COUNCIL REGARDING ACTION OR
RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
DATE: September 17, 1974
SUBJECT: Traffic Flow Patterns
RECOMMENDATION:
Jones moved:
Jorgenson seconded: The Planning Commission recommend to
City Council that no action be taken on
the following until further studies have been completed:
1. Conversion of Bannock and Sherman Streets within the
limits of Dartmouth Avenue and Oxford Avenue from one-way
to two-way st~eets;
2. Conversion of Hampden Avenue within the limits of South
Acoma Street and South Bannock Street from two-way to one-
way eastbound in order to accommodate the time sequences
due to the conversion of South Bannock Street to two-way;
3. Extension of HaJQ'Pden Place eastward from South Cherokee
Street to at least South Bannock Street and possibly on
through to tie in with Hampden Avenue .
AYES: Tanguma; Wade; Weist; Jones; Jorgenson; Martin; Smith
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Brown; Lentsch
The motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
By Order of the City Planning
and Zoning Commission .