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CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
MAY 13, 1975
I . CALL TO ORDER.
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission
was called to order at 8:00 p.m. by Chairman Martin.
Members present: Jorgenson; Martin; Parker; Pierson; Smith;
Wade; Brown; Jones
Supinger, Ex-officio
Members absent: Tanguma
Also present: Assistant City Attorney Lee; Assistant Director
Romans; Associate Planner House
II. APPROVAL OF MINUrEs.
Mr. Martin stated that Minutes of April 22, 1975, and of April
30, 1975, were to be considered for approval.
Jorgenson moved:
Smith seconded: The Minutes of April 22, 1975, and April 30,
1975, be approved as written.
Mr. Tanguma entered and took his place with the Commission.
AYES: Jones; Jorgenson; Martin; Parker; Pierson; Smith; Wade;
Brown
NAYS: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: Tanguma
The motion carried.
III. CARL WIEBE REZONING
R-1-c to R-2-B
Parker moved:
Wade seconded: The Public Hearing be opened.
CASE #15-75
AYES: Brown; Jones; Jorgenson; Martin; Parker; Pierson; Smith;
Tanguma; Wade
NAYS: None
The motion carried.
Mr. Martin welcomed members of the audience ~o the meeting.
He then stated that the procedure to be followed would allow
proponents of the rezoning request to speak first, followed
by opponents. The Public Hearing would be closed after all
persons wishing to speak have been heard; there would be no
action taken on the matter at this meeting. Mr. Martin stated
that he felt there was a great deal of material to be considered
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by the Commiss i on before a decision can be reached. Mr. Martin
asked that all those who wish to speak come to the podium and •
identify themselves.
Mr. Keith Gray stated that he is Mr. Wiebe's son-in-law, and
that Mr. Wiebe is out of town this evening. Mr. Gray stated
that as he understands Mr. Wiebe's plans, a "semi-detached
dwelling unit" would be constructed on the Feistner property,
which fronts on South Decatur Street. Mr. Gray discussed some
of the "rumors" that have been circulated regarding the requested
rezoning and possible development. Mr. Gray emphasized that as
he understood Mr. Wiebe's plans, it is for a semi-detached
dwelling unit. Mr. Gray stated that there would be approximately
1200 sq. ft. per unit, and the two units would be separated by
a garage.
Mr. Martin asked when construction would begin, provided the
rezoning request were to be recommended by the Commission and
approved by City Council? Mr. Gray stated they hoped to begin
construction as soon as possible, and noted they were working
on blue-prints for construction now.
Mr. Martin asked if Mr. Gray had had an opportunity to discuss
the matter of development with the Valley Sanitation District .
Mr. Tanguma noted that the staff report indicates Mr. Wiebe
intends development of properties owned by Ferguson, Tidwell,
and Weaver, as well as that of Feistner . Mr. Gray stated that ~
he did not know what Mr. Wiebe's intentions were. Mr. Martin
also pointed out that the staff report states there would be
development of a "series" of luxury double uni1E. Mr. Gray
stated that this could be possible. Mr. Gray stated that he
has very recently come to the United States from Canada, and
that he is unfamiliar with Mr. Wiebe's proposal for the properties.
Mr. Broomhall, realtor for Mr. Wiebe, stated that it is the
intent of Mr. Wiebe to construct doubles on the additional
properties.
Mr. Parker noted that if the rezoning is approved, there
could be a maximum of 14 units per acre constructed in this
area under the R-2-B zoning. Mrs. Romans noted that the area
will have to be platted, and that the maximum development
allowed is 14 units per acre. Mr. Supinger emphasized that
public street rights-of-way, etc. will come out of the· gross
acre; the 14 units per acre maximum is "net acreage", after
streets and other rights-of-way have been dedicated. Mr.
Supinger also emphasized that this is unplatted land, and a
subdivision will have to be approved prior to issuance of any
building permits.
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Mrs. Pierson n ote d that the staff report states Mr. Wiebe is
the "intended purchaser of the property"; she asked if Mr.
Wiebe has the property under option? Mr. Broomhall stated
that the land is not under option, and that no offer has been
made. Mr. Tanguma asked, if this is the case, who is applying
for the rezoning? Mr. Supinger stated that the application is
signed by Mr. Wiebe. Mr. Supinger stated that under the terms
of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance, a property owner or
purchaser of property --one who has contracted to purchase
property, can apply for rezoning on the subject property and
on additional property.
Mr . Lee noted that it is not clear at this point whether or
n ot the applicant has a legal interest in the property, and
advised the Commission to determine if, in fact, there is
interest on the part of the applicant such as an option, con-
tract, etc.
Mr. Martin asked if, in fact, Mr. Wiebe does have any interest
in any of the property under consideration for rezoning? Mr.
Broomhall and Mr. Gray stated "no". Mr. Gray asked how one
goes about getting property rezoned? Mr. Martin stated that
a property owner or one who ha ~ an interest in the land ---
such as an option, contract, etc., may request the rezoning.
Mr. Lee stated that if, in fact, there is no interest on Mr.
Wiebe's part in the property, that the application is invalid,
and the hearing should be closed.
Mr. Broomhall stated that he was under the impression that
the application could proceed in the manner they have followed,
namely, Mr. Wiebe as applicant.
Mrs. Romans discussed the background of the application. Several
months ago, the Commission invited all of the property owners
to come to a meeting to discuss a street pattern throughout
the area. At that meeting, Mrs. Ferguson said she was interested
in an R-2-B Zone Classification for her property. The staff
prepared a report and suggested that the Commission might
initiate the rezoning of this area; it was the Commission deter-
mination they should not initiate the rezoning. Mrs. Ferguson,
Mr. and Mrs. Weaver and Mr. Feistner subsequently came into
the office to discuss the possibility of R-2-B zoning; they
were given an application, and it was suggested they discuss
the possibility of such a zone change with other property
owners in the area. Mrs. Romans stated that Mr. Wiebe came
into the office to discuss his application for rezoning, and
stated that he was interested in building a duplex on the
Feistner property; she told him at that time of Mrs. Ferguson
and the Weavers interest in possible rezoning; and suggested
that he talk to the other property owners to see if they would
join in the application. Mrs. Romans s.tated that following
this discussion, the application was received by the office,
signed by Mr. Carl Wiebe. The application states that Mr.
Wiebe is the "intended purchaser". The staff felt they could
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assume, from this statement , that Mr. Wiebe did have an
"interest" in the propert y , and proceeded on that basis.
Mr. Martin stated that if Mr. Feistner, Mrs. Ferguson and
Mr. and Mrs. Weaver were to have joined on the application,
the Commission could have proceeded with the Hearing; they
cannot continue the Hearing now .
Mr. Supinger stated that it would require a new application
to be filed.
Mr. Lee cautioned that to proceed with the Hearing at this
point would be subject to action in Court.
Mrs. Maye Ferguson
2740 West Union Avenue -stated that her property is included
in the Valley Sanitation District, and
was included in 1964; she does have the right to tap onto the
sewer line. Mrs. Ferguson confirmed that she did meet with
Mrs. Romans approximately one year ago to discuss the feasibility
of the R-2-B zoning; an application was mailed to her, and she
did contact one or two of the other property owners, who were
not interested in rezoning at tha t time. Mrs. Ferguson stated
she understood that Mr. Wiebe had just recently asked for the
R-2-B zoning, and that she, as a property owner in the area,
would be willing for him to go ahead with his request for re-
zoning.
Mr. Martin stated that until a person or persons who have a
legal interest in the land and property that is under discussion
make a formal application for rezoning, the Commission is not
in a position to discuss the matter. Any discussion on this
request will have to be postponed until a property owner makes
application or joins in an application with Mr. Wiebe. Brief
discussion followed.
Parker moved:
Tanguma seconded: The Public Hearing be closed.
AYES: Jorgenson; Jones; Brown; Wade; Tanguma; Smith; Pierson;
Parker; Martin
NAYS: None
The motion carried.
Mr. Martin declared a 10 minute recess.
The meeting was called to order at 8:50 p.m. by Chairman
Martin.
Members present: Martin; Jorgenson; Jones; Wade; Tanguma;
Smith; Pierson; Parker
Members absent: Brown
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IV. DIRECTOR'S CHOICE
Mr. Supinger reminded the Commission they had set a study
session for June 10th to consider the RTD program. Mr.
Supinger stated that a report entitled "Public Transportation
Alternatives" had been delivered to the Planning Office earlier
in the afternoon, and copies have been placed before the Com-
mission this evening. This report summarizes alternative
analysis done by the RTD staff and recommended to the RTD
Board. RTD will hold a Public Hearing on May 22nd at the
Cosmopolitan Hotel regarding the transportation alternatives.
If the City of Englewood is going to take action on this matter,
it is imperative the Planning Commission take action this
evening and City Council take action at their meeting of May
19th. The City could pass a resolution supporting the concept
expressed in the Public Transportation Alternatives and ex-
press their views at the Public Hearing on the 22nd. Channel
6 will televise the Public Hearing from 8:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m.,
and public testimony will be heard from 8:30 p.m. to 10:00 p.m.
or after. Speakers will be limited to five minute presentations.
Mr. Supinger stated that should the City not take action before
May 22nd, it would not mean the City could not be heard by the
RTD Board.
Mr. Brown entered and took his place with the Commission.
Mr. Supinger stated that it is his understanding the RTD
Board intends to make a decision sometime between June 10th
and June 12th. Mr. Supinger stated that the proposal could be
adopted as recommended by the staff, or it could be modif i ed,
or the Board could deny the staff recommendation.
Mr.Supinger stated that he would be happy to attempt to explain
the significant wishes of the Alternative Analysis if the
Commission so wished.
Mr. Martin stated he had received a call from Mr. Von Frellick
who indicated he was most interested in the Planning Commission
sending some type o f recommendation to the City Council in re-
gard to the Park and Ride facilities. Mr. Martin stated that
three alternatives on the location of the Park and Ride facil i ties
were mentioned:
1. The parking lot adjoining the old Police/Fire building.
2. The location of the greenhouses south of U.S. 285.
3. On Dartmouth at Santa Fe, (the former Rouse property).
Mr. Jones stated that he had attended a hearing held May 12th
at Arapahoe Community College, at which time the first segment
staging, the corridors, etc. were discussed. -Santa Fe has been
chosen as the corridor, with proposed stations in Littleton,
at U.S. 285 and Santa Fe, and at approx~mately Evans and Santa
Fe. Mr. Jones pointed out that this does not mean there will
not be supplemental bus routes; he stated that express routes
will have to be considered, and circulator bus routes through
the City will have to be considered also. Mr. Jones stated
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that the possibility of as s istance on the Park and Ride must
be considered; he stated that the City of Englewood has no
place to accommodate 1500 cars, which he understands would be
required for the first staging.
Mr. Jones stated that the ART system would be in the general
alignment of the present railroad tracks; part of the system
would be elevated. Further discussion followed.
Mr. Martin discussed his service on the RTD citizens' committee;
he noted that at that time, the PRT was considered, but it has
now been replaced by consideration of the ART. Mr. Martin
stated that he felt the ART is a "long way down the line", but
that he does agree we need some type of transportation system.
Mr. Martin noted that the City is limited in access. He stated
that if the Commission made a recommendation to City Council
on RTD, he felt we should recommend they consider some type of
internal transportation system throughout the City.
Mr. Supinger discussed RTD and the efforts they have made to
involve the public in their program. Mr. Supinger stated that
he felt RTD had done an outstandi ng job in involving the public
and being responsive to public opinion. He stated that he felt
the important thing right now is for the Planning Commission
and City Council to support the concept that is recommended by
the RTD staff; he stated that he feels the proposal will be
good for Englewood. Mr. Supinger noted that no firm decision
has been made on the location of the Park and Ride facility.
Mr. Supinger emphasized that it is important for this community
to support the concepts presented and recommended by the RTD
staff. Mr. Supinger stated that if the Commission feels it
appropriate, he would suggest they recommend that City Council
pass a resolution supporting the recommendations of the RTD
staff.
Mrc Martin stated that he had heard RTD has purchased or has
an option to purchase seven of the 12 Park and Ride stations
they plan to provide. Mr. Supinger stated that he had not
heard anything regarding that matter. Further discussion
followed. Mr. Supinger urged that any recommendation regarding
the Park and Ride facility be separated from any recommendation
supporting the Public Transportation Alternatives, as recommended
by the RTD staff.
Mr. Brown discussed a meeting between the Englewood City Council
and Sheridan City Council at which time the RTD program was
the topic of discussion. Mr. Brown noted that Santa Fe corridor
is needed to carry the traffic.
Jones moved:
Pierson seconded: The Planning Commission recommend to City
Council that the Council authorize the Mayor,
or another Council representative, to express support by the •
City of Englewood for the conclusions indicated in the report
"RTD Public Transportation Alternatives," including the Automated
Rapid Transit Concept, the Santa Fe Corridor, a station to serve
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the Englewood Act ivity Center, and the First Segment Staging.
Through further local discussions, the City will be making
specific recommendations to RTD regarding Park and Ride
facilities, Station Location, and integration of other trans-
portation modes into the anticipated system.
Discussion ensued.
AYES: Brown, Jones, Jorgenson, Martin, Parker, Pierson, Smith,
Tanguma, Wade
NAYS: None
The motion carried.
The matter of the Park and Ride Facility location was then
discussed. Mr. Martin stated there are three areas in Englewood
that might be able to accommodate the Park and Ride facility,
which areas are the parking lot adjoining the former Police/Fire
center, the greenhouse property south of U.S. 285, and the
former Rouse property at Dartmouth and Santa Fe. Mr. Jones
discussed problems that could arise if the parking lot adjoining
the former police/fire structure were designated as a park and
ride facility; he noted that the local streets would have to
carry the traffic to and from the facility, and they are not
designed for that volume of traffic. He noted that the ART
system is to run on a four-minute interval. Discussion followed.
Mr. Martin asked about sending an accompanying recommendation
regarding the Park and Ride facility location? He stated he
would personally like to see a recommendation to City Council
favoring the Park and Ride location on the former Rouse property
at Dartmouth and Santa Fe. Mr. Tanguma pointed out that
Dartmouth Avenue is not capable at this time of carrying heavy
traffic, and that he personally favors a location close to
Santa Fe and U.S. 285. Discussion followed.
Mrs. Pierson asked if RTD had condemnation rights for the
Park and Ride facilities? Mr. Martin stated that they did.
Mr. Jones stated that the power of condemnation will have
considerable influence on the location of the Park and Ride
facilities. Mrs. Pierson asked if the City would have anything
to do with the condemnation proceedings? Mr. Martin stated
that the condemnation would not be the responsibility of the
City of Englewood, but the responsibility of RTD. Mr. Martin
discussed the possible transfer of funds from the I-470 project
to mass transit projects. Further discussion on the acquisition
of properties for the park and ride facilities followed. Mrs.
Pierson noted that we have been discussing community participa-
tion and "amenities"; she asked if the City of Englewood is to
provide the "amenities"?
Mr. Jones stated that those Park and Ride facilities furnished
by the communities will be on the first list; he stated that
we must consider that we will be placed on the list in order
of priority and our participation.
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Mr. Parker aske d if the bus system wo u ld be improved? Mr.
Jones stated that additional buses would be added when they get
the additional buseso Mr. Supinger stated that buses would
be put on to serve the area that needs serving; if Englewood
justifies additional services, they will get the buses.
Mr. Parker noted that there is and will be criticism concerning
the location of the corridor and acceleration of the core area
stagnation. Mr. Supinger stated that he felt the RTD corridor
and program would rejuvenate the Core Area. Discussion followed.
Pierson moved:
Wade seconded: The Planning Commission recommend, as a guide
to City Council, consideration of one of the
following two locations for Park and Ride facilities:
1. In the general location of West Dartmouth and South Santa
Fe Drive.
2. South of U.So 285 adjacent to Cinderella Cityo
Brief discussion ensued.
AYES: Jorgenson; Martin; Parker; Pierson; Smith; Tanguma; Wade;
Brown; Jones
NAYS: None
The motion carried.
The matter of Case #15-75, Wiebe Rezoning Application, was
briefly discussed.
Jones moved:
Brown seconded: The Planning Commission waive the application
fee for Mr. Carl Wiebe should he again wish
to apply for rezoning of the subject area; however, Mr. Wiebe
shall be asked to defray the cost of publication and cover all
costs of signing.
AYES: Jorgenson; Martin; Parker; Pierson; Smith; Tanguma;
Wade; Brown; Jones
NAYS: None
The motion carried.
The Commission members were provided with a summary of sug-
gested amendments to the Master Stree~ Plan, and a draft of
a proposed press release o Mr. Supinger suggested that the Com-
mission might wish to set a Public Hearing date for the proposed
amendments.
Discussion ensuedo
Public Hearing on the proposed amendments to the Master Street
Plan was set for June 17th.
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The June 10th study session was questioned in light of the
recommendation to too Cit y Council; Mr. Supinger indicated
he felt there would be sufficient material regarding the RTD
program to warrant the study session.
V. COMMlSSION'S CHOICE.
Mrs. Wade stated that she had completed her report on her
trip to Vancouver, B.C . for the ASPO Conference. She expressed
her appreciation to the Commission and the City for the privilege
of attending.
Mr. Martin noted that a study session had been set for every
Saturday in May; inasmuch as the recommendations have been
made on the RTD program, and the Master Street Plan amendments
have been compiled, he questioned whether or not the Commission
still needs the Saturday meetings?
Mr. Supinger stated that he felt a study session was needed to
talk about the future of Englewood. Mr. Brown suggested the
possibility of a breakfast meeting on one of the Saturdays;
this would leave the majority of the day free if the Commission
met at 7:00 A. M. or 7:30 A. M. for breakfast. Discussion
followed. A study session was set for May 15th at 7:00 P. M.
to discuss the "future" of Englewood.
Mr. Tanguma asked what should be done regarding Resolution #38,
series of 1973, which adopted a design program for the Englewood
Core Area? Mr. Supinger stated that this could well be con-
sidered at the study sesion on the future of Englewood.
Mrs. Wade thanked the staff for the information on the concrete
operation at 2560 West Union Avenue.
Mr. Martin referred to a letter from Colorado Interstate Gas;
he suggested that copied be made of this letter for all Com-
mission members .
The meeting adjourned at 10:15 P.M.
Gertrue G . Welty
Recording Secretary
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MEMORANDUM TO THE ENGLEWOOD CITY COUNCIL REGARDING ACTION OR
RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
DATE: May 13, 1975
SUBJECT: RTD Public Transportation Alternatives
RECOMMENDATION:
Jones moved:
Pierson seconded: The Planning Commission recommend to City
Council that the Council authorize the
Mayor, or another Council representative, to express support
by the City of Englewood for the conclusions indicated in the
report "RTD Public Transportation Alternatives", including the
Automated Rapid Transit concept, the Santa Fe Corridor, a
station to serve the Englewood Activity Center, and the First
Segment Staging. Through further local discussions, the City
will be making specific recommendations to RTD regarding Park
and Ride facilities, Station Location, and integration of other
transportation modes into the anticipated system.
AYES: Brown; Jones; Jorgenson; Martin; Parker; Pierson; Smith;
Tanguma; Wade
NAYS: None
The motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
By Order of the City Planning
and Zoning Commission.
i~,J.~L{-'Ger@ue~Welty
Recording Secretary
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MEMORANDUM 'IQ THE ENGLEWOOD CITY COUNCIL REGARDING ACTION OR
RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION .
DATE: May 13, 1975
SUBJECT: RTD Park and Ride Facilities
RECOMMENDATION:
Pierson moved:
Wade seconded: The Planning Commission recommend, as a guide
to City Council, consideration of one of the
following two locations for Park and Ride facilities:
1. In the general location of West Dartmouth and South Santa
Fe Drive.
2. South of U.S . 285 adjacent to Cinderella City.
AYES: Jorgenson; Martin; Parker; Pierson; Smith; Tanguma; Wade;
Brown; Jones
NAYS: None
The motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
By Order of the City Planning
and Zoning Commission.
G'ertrU~Welty
Recording Secretary