HomeMy WebLinkAbout1975-09-03 PZC MINUTES• CITY OF ENG LE WOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
September 3, 1975
The meeting o f the Planning and Zoning Commissi on was called
to order by Chai rman Art Martin at 7:00 P.M. Att endance was
as follows:
Commissioners Pre s e nt: Arthur Martin, Chairman
Judith Pierson
Chalmerse Parker
Eddie Tanguma
Lee Jones
Ed Smith
Mae Wade
Commissioners Ab se nt: Howard Brown
George Jorgenson
Others Present: Dorothy A. Ro mans, Acting Director of
Community Developmen t -Planning
Steve House, Planning As sociate
Bill James, Director of F inance
Karl Nollenberger, Assistant City Manager
Kells Waggoner, Director of Public Works
Chairman Ma rti n declared there was a quorum presen t .
It was dec ided that the minutes of meetings of Aug ust 12, August 19,
and August 26, 1975, would be tabled for approval u n til the meeting
of September 9 in order to give Commissioners time f or reviewing
all minutes.
Mrs. Romans indicated that the staff had been som ew h at c oncerned
over the I-3 Zoning District. She explained that, in her opin-
ion, spec i al regulations had been drafted to "placate" t hose in
the Sant a Fe-Union annexation area. She explained that most of
our industrial districts are adjacent to residenti a l a reas, and
that in t h e past, wrecking yards were not considere d t o be com-
patible with those areas. Discussion followed.
Mrs. Romans led discussion of Rockwell Concrete, a n on-conforming
use , o n West Union Avenue, west of the Platte River ; the fact that
Rockwel l h a s applied for I-3 zoning, but failed to p ost the prop-
erty in time f o r the Public Hearing which had b e en scheduled for
this date. I t was suggested that other requests for I-3 may be
received from areas which would not lend themselves t o such in-
tense uses as are permitted in that District. There was further
discussion.
Chairman Mar t in s tated his only hesitation is that some day some-
thing will have to be done with that land (Santa Fe-Union) and
that annexing this area would provide a good chance for the City
to expand their tax base. Mr. Parker asked if we had ever con-
sidered taking Rockwell by itself. Mrs. Romans stated that it •
is in the City. Originally, an asphalt plant was started on the
rear of what was then the Holland property, and it had gradually
evolved to the present use. The Building Department has spent
a great deal of time with the present owner trying to get it
cleaned up. Over a year ago they had to go to the Board of
Adjustment, and told that Board that they were applying for re-
zoning. They did submit an application, but to this time, either
the information on the application has been faulty, the legal
not accurate, and finally, they failed to post the property.
Letters have been sent to Mr. Clinger, the owner, and to his
attorney, with copies to the City Attorney's office and the head
of the Code Enforcement Division, in order to keep them informed
of the delays. One of the most recent reasons given for the de-
lay is that they were going to try' to get some of the adjoining
properties to join in the application for 1-3. Mrs. Romans sug-
gested that possibly the City Attorney should be requested to
give an opinion as to how long the applicant could continue the
rezoning request in this manner before the City could close the
case and ask them to refile when their application would be in
a form that it could be acted upon.
The possibility of the Santa Fe-Union area being annexed to the
City in the future was discussed. It was the opinion of most
of those present that there would have to be a rather sizable
change in ownership in that area before annexation would again
become feasible. There may also be an entirely different de-·~
velopment in mind for the area at that time. Discussion was
also held on services which would have been available in Engle-
wood, and those available to the area at this time. The possi-
bility of the rechannelization and beautification of the River
area was also considered.
Ms. Pierson moved , and Mr. Smith seconded a motion TO ACCEPT THE
RECOMMENDATION OF THE STAFF IN THE MATTER OF CASE NO. 24-75,
RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT SECTION 22.4-15, 1-3 HEAVY
INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT IN THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE BE RE-
PEALED FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS:
1. THE ZONE DISTRICT WAS DEVELOPED SPECIFICALLY TO
ACCOMMODATE AN AREA NO LONGER WITHIN THE CITY.
2. THE USES WHICH ARE PERMITTED IN THE DISTRICT ARE
OF AN INTENSITY THAT THEY ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH
DEVELOPMENT IN AREAS WHICH ARE WITHIN THIS CITY.
3. THERE ARE TWO OTHER INDUSTRIAL ZONE CLASSIFICA-
TIONS: 1 -1 LIGIIT INDUSTRIAL, AND I-2 GENERAL
INDUSTRIAL , WHICH CAN BE APPLIED TO LAND WHICH
LENDS ITSELF TO THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
4. NO PERSONS WILL BE DENIED THE USE OF THEIR LAND
BY THE ELIMINATION OF THIS DISTRICT.
AYES: Tanguma, Wade, Jones, Martin, Parker, Smith, Pierson.
NAYS: None. ·A
ABSENT: Brown, Jorgenson. ,.,
The motion carried.
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Mr. Kells Waggoner, Director of Public Works, entered.
Mrs. Romans introduced the wall chart showing priorities for
the projects of the different departments for the Capital Improve-
ment Program.
Mr .. Waggoner stated that the Public Works Department consists
of Engineering, Traffic Regulations, Storm Drainage, Building
Maintenance, and "everything else that no one else wants". He
stated that what is requested is not necessarily what is wanted,
but that it is up to the Commission members to decide what they
want to do as a City function. The projects submitted by the
Public Works Department are as follows:
City Survey--Suggested to have a survey made of the entire City
with reference corners at all intersections to make surveying more
accurate. This is needed, particularly in the northwest part of
town and other areas that are particularly bad, such as around
Kenyon and Delaware and further south from that corner. At
Belleview and Clarkson, two corners are five feet apart. The
accuracy of the survey is dependent on which corner the surveyor
uses. This is definitely a projec which will benefit several
departments; for example, each building permit requires a survey.
Mrs. Romans stated that the Department of Community Development
would rate this as the Number 1 Priority. Mr. Waggoner stated
that his department has not given any priorities; it is up to
the Planning Commission to do so.
Mr. Smith inquired if pins would be placed at every intersection,
and Mr. Waggoner stated so, and that the cost is included for
every intersection. He further stated that he would retain a
land surveyor to do it; that we would save that amount of money
in five years' time alone, not only in City time, but in legal
fees, staff time, and the citizens' and surveyors' time. He
stated that Council approved two encroachments where buildings
have ended up in street rights-of-way because of inadequate sur-
veys. No one can afford to pay the price of a complete survey,
checking section corners, etc. There was discussion.
Municipal Refuse Collection--Mr. Waggoner stated that unless
somebody does something about refuse collection, we are going
to have problems some day. DRC<Xi is doing a study right now
on refuse collection. He feels that Englewood citizens are
eventually going to demand municipal collection; Denver has
it without cost, other than in property taxes, and it is def-
initely cheaper than paying private collectors. Mr. Waggoner
stated that there are eventually going to be no dump sites
available, and that we'll have to go to incinerator systems.
There was discussion about the EPA view on this pollution, and
Public Service Company's possibility of util~zing this as a heat
source. Mr. Waggoner suggested putting this lower on the list
of priorities, and Mrs. Wade felt 1978 was a good year to look at
it tentatively.
Lebow Avenue Bridge--Mr. Waggoner explained that this year,
Englewood paved all the way from Broadway on Lebow to just short
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of the bridge. He stated that the Littleton Public Works Direc-
tor indicated an interest to go in on a bridge with us, and that
the bridge would relieve the sharp dip at that point. Discussion •
followed about flooding possibilities. It was concluded that
there is a possibility of getting it budgeted to coincide with
Littleton's budgeting, in order to get the bridge in in a joint
ventµre. Mrs. Romans inquired whether there had been any more
requests for signalization at Lehow and Broadway, and the re-
sponse was negative. She also stated that there was hope of
purchasing property on the south side of Lehow just east of the
bridge for open space, with nature trails, a bird sanctuary, etc.
Union Avenue Connector--Mr. Waggoner stated that this had been
requested in the Public Improvement Fund years ago. The main
point is getting rid of the job across Santa Fe at Union. It
was encouraged that this should be an item of priorities sug-
gested to Council, that it should be integrated with the State
Highway Department planning on Santa Fe Drive. Mr. Waggoner
stated that at one point, he tried to get the State Highway De-
partment to approve signalization at Union and Tufts, but to no
avail. Now, with new personnel in that particular office, he
felt there might be a change of attitude. It was concluded that
this is a fairly important item that shouldn't be postponed more
than a year or two.
Right-of-Way Acquisition--This applies to where the City does
not have full right-of-way dedication. Discussion followed on
whether to purchase right-of-way, or wait for the development
of property, letting people dedicate the land with no cost to
the City, obviously the more economical way of doing it. The
plan would be to mainly make an effort to acquire rights-of-way
for streets in northwest Englewood, such as on Yale, between
Tejon and Zuni. Question was brought up by Mr. Nollenberger
about fairness of some people donating the land and others get-
ting paid for it. Mr. Waggoner felt there was no problem, that
we have to get the land.
Mrs. Romans stated that the state statute provides that if the
Master Street Plan has been adopted, you cannot build where
streets are planned and further, that a building permit cannot
be issued if it is on a route of the Master Street Plan and
the right-of-way has not been dedicated.
Paving District--It is recommended that paving districts be con-
tinued until all streets in Englewood are paved to no less than
City standards. Mr. Nollenberger inquired if it would take four
more paving districts to complete the paving of all streets in
the City, to which Mr. Waggoner replied that it could be done;
but it would create four rather heavy districts with the current
staff. The amount to be accomplished each year will depend on
Council, and the objections of the people to their inclusion in
the Paving District.
There was discussion on the fact that where there has been storm ·~
sewer construction, the City has held off on paving districts
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until completion of the storm sewer construction. Mr. Waggoner
stated that at one time it appeared the City might get an Urban
Renewal grant which would have made it possible to pave all of
the streets in northwest Englewood at no cost to the people.
This program did not materialize, however.
Sidewalk District--Mr. Waggoner gave introduction by way of say-
ing that there are many sidewalks in the City which need to be
replaced; however, the property owners cannot afford to pay the
cost all at once, so the districts are formed. This way, citi-
zens have ten years to pay for the sidewalk, paying yearly, along
with their other taxes. Of course, the property owner must pay
interest, too, if he extends the payments in this manner. Dis-
cussion was had on boundary streets and sidewalks thereon. There
was further discussion.
Overlay Program--It was pointed out that Arapahoe County actually
levied 1.3 mills, and the City of Englewood receives one-half of
that, based on assessed valuation in the City. The funds are
used either for sealcoating or for overlay. If we don't overlay,
we start losing streets, because overlaying streets provides
structural strength. We have streets that should have been over-
laid this year, but didn't have the money to do so. Ms. Wade
asked if there were additional debt to property owners. Mr. Wag-
goner stated no. The property owners have paid once for the
street to be paved to design standards and the City then takes
on maintenance and provides the necessary overlay.
Mr. Parker inquired when Clarkson would get paved. Discussion
followed regarding Clarkson and the double ownership with Cherry
Hills. Mr. Martin asked if this overlay program would be an on-
going thing? Mr. Waggoner stated that it would be once we get
started in the program. Ms. Pierson asked how often we should
overlay. Mr. Waggoner stated that it depends on usage, what is
under the street (soil conditions), volume of traffic, and the
base construction. Ms. Pierson inquired if this is definitely
a permanent function of the Public Works Department, and how
long the program would take. Mr. Waggoner stated that he doubted
if it could be done in five years, to which Mr. Jones said it
looked like a ten-year program which would then start over again.
Dartmouth Widening--Mr. Waggoner stated that we had requested
assistance of the Urban Systems funding now scheduled for fiscal
year 1977, and we will have to provide 26 per cent of the cost
of that improvement. Ms. Pierson asked if it were going to be
widened to a four-lane roadway. Mr. Waggoner stated that it
would be made 44 feet wide, and that there could be four lanes
in that width, if there were no on-street parking. He also
suggested that there was hope for fundings from PUC out of the
Highway Protection Fund for the crossing; hopefully, they will
pick up 80 per cent toward the gates and flashers, the railroads
will pick up ten per cent, and we will pay only the other ten
per cent.
Dartmouth Widening--Zuni-Santa Fe--Mr. Waggoner said plans have
been made for a 44-foot wide roadway, and financing would be
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through the Urban Systems Program, scheduled for construction in
fiscal year 1977, which begins July, 1976.
Mr. Waggoner also stated that the section across Santa Fe would
be wider, with a left turn pocket to be provided. Mrs. Wade
asked if the bridge is the same width as the roadway; to which
Mr. Waggoner responded that it was widened to coincide with the
44-foot roadway two years ago, and was one of the first widen-
ing projects. Discussion followed.
Widening of Bannock and Sherman--Mr. Waggoner stated that portions
of both Bannock and Sherman will have to be widened if they are
to serve as collector streets. It is hoped that they can be
made 44 feet wide as are all other collectors and arterials. It
was brought out that Bannock is only 32 feet wide for most of
its length north of Oxford. The question was brought up about
getting rid of the high crown in Bannock, which was developed
by repeated overlays. Mr. Waggoner said that an effort will
be made to try to adjust the street grade by bringing the sides
of the road up to match the grade of the crown. Mr. Waggoner
also stated that that street has been assessed for overlays,
and can't be assessed again. He said if these streets don't
remain collectors, then this widening can be dropped.
Widening of Broadway from Yale to Floyd--to provide the same
width as just completed between U.S. 285 and Quincy. Mr. Waggoner
stated that even though this portion of Broadway is not on the
State Highway System, it may be possible to get a request for
funds under the Urban System. He said this portion of Broadway
came up "pretty high" on the priority list on Urban Systems prior-
ity ratings, and if this program continues, it is possible that
we could get this portion of Broadway widened under this program.
Mr. Waggoner did explain that our allotment of Urban System money
has already been taken up for Dartmouth; but that we could post-
pone the Dartmouth widening and do Broadway. He said he would
propose the same treatment for this portion as Broadway now has
south of U.S. 285 with planters, etc. He added that Broadway
between U.S. 285 and Quincy functions well. There was further
discussion about sidewalks and rights-of-way.
After a short break, the session continued.
Widening Broadway from Floyd to U.S. 285--Mr. Waggoner said that
this is a wider segment than the north or south portions of
Broadway, and would not take as much widening, but in order to
get the same cross section, it would have to be widened five
feet on each side. Different alternatives are possible in this
area, depending on whether or not planters are provided, parking,
and the width of sidewalks. There was further discussion re-
garding off-street parking, setting doors back into the build-
ings, the Voorhees plan for making a mall on Girard, and other
considerations for making Broadway into a mall.
Mr. Smith inquired about the property between Key Savings and
the Highway. Mr. Waggoner stated that this is owned by the City ~
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and is to be a park, then some discussion followed concerning
Interchange Park. It was stated that that park is already in
the Six-Quarter Budget and that the Englewood Centennial-
Bicentennial Committee is planning flower beds, etc., at that
location. There i s $24,761 in the Six-Quarter-Budget for Inter-
change Park.
Floyd-Broadway Re-Alignment--Mr. Waggoner stated that due to the
present signalization, the traffic flow is relatively smooth,
but that it is proposed to remove the present jog on Floyd at
Broadway. Mr . Jones stated that with improvements on Dartmouth,
that should remove some of the load on Floyd Avenue. There was
discussion about crossings over Santa Fe and suggested that in
the event Floyd were to continue west, it would go over Santa Fe,
rather than intersecting with it.
West Floyd Avenue Extension--It was stated that there are greater
priorities, and that this can probably be postponed. In the
long run, the City would like to get Zuni straight through to
U.S. 285 and Floyd, then, could be extended to Zuni. Mr. Martin
asked if Sheridan would allow Zuni to go through to U.S. 285.
Mr. Waggoner said that the problem with Sheridan, would be getting
rid of the light at Bryant, but that he feels that Zuni would
provide better access for Sheridan than Bryant. Mrs. Romans
stated she had been told there would be only right turns at
Hampden and Zuni, if it were to be extended.
Broadway Planters--From South Quincy to Belleview. This project
is to essentially beautify this portion of Broadway. Ms. Pierson
asked how much distance is involved, and how much each unit costs?
Mr. Waggoner stated there are eight blocks in that area, approx-
imately one mile, and that each block would cost around $1500.
Mr. Parker stated that the planters do look nice, and Mr. Waggoner
stressed how nice it would be to be able to drive from the north
end of the City, all the way to Belleview with the planters .
Storm Drainage Program--Mr. Waggoner said he wanted to complete
the Master Plan on Storm Drainage. He indicated that on the
map that was included in the Commission's report, ·the black
areas are areas where no storm drainage improvements have been
undertaken. This is in the High School, Central Englewood, and
Filtration Plant Basins. Mrs. Wade inquired of Mr. Waggoner
about the area around Belleview and Federal. Mr. Waggoner ex-
plained that the new drainage being installed would carry the
storm waters from Belleview to Federal. Mr. Martin asked if
the State is going to fund the storm drainage; to which question
Mr. Waggoner said that the State is giving us a portion of the ex-
penses on Federal.
Mrs. Romans asked Mr. Waggoner to discuss the-proposed detention
pond at Bates-Logan Park. Mr. Waggoner stressed the success of
the drainage design at Romans Park and at Huron and Radcliffe,
and discussed the possibility of designing a similar pond at
Bates-Logan Park. It was stated that the cost of buying housing
would never be as cheap as it is currently, and in order to
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develop Bates-Logan, some consideration would have to be given
to land acquisition. The detention pond could be constructed
within the present boundaries; but it would be preferable to do ,..._
it the other way. Mr. Waggoner suggested that he would like to ..,
go for bids on this project :in November, hopefully having bids
back in time for Council to make an award at the first Council
meet~ng in January. It must be decided what we want to do now,
rather than to try moving the detention pond at a later date.
Mr. Martin inquired that if Mr. Waggoner was suggesting going
out for bids in November, if he is putting a high priority on
this particular item? Mr. Waggoner stated that storm drainage
and park improvements are budgeted, and that this detention
pond should go into this park as soon as possible. With the
pond, the remainder of the storm drainage down stream from that
point will be less expensive.
Little Dry Creek -Sherman to Clarkson--Mr. Waggoner stated
that under the Master Plan, this is proposed to be a concrete
lined open channel in order to carry flows to keep it within
the banks for the 100-year storm. The City Manager has signed
a contract with the same firm that did our drainage plan to study
different proposals along Little Dry Creek. Discussion followed.
Mr. Smith brought up Councilman Sovern's views on using an open
grass channel, as opposed to a box culvert, and the dangers of
Cinderella City in case of a major storm and flooding. Further
background was discussed. Mr. Waggoner stated that currently,
the channel that goes under King Soopers, Floyd Avenue and Cin-
derella City is capable of carrying 3800-4500 cfs. Some back-
ground was introduced as far as past studies, past projections •
of cfs to go through that channel, and the dams now constructed
for control. Mr. Smith stressed the economical strategy that
could evolve from flooding in the core area and Cinderella City
due to present facilities such as the loss in sales tax revenues,
etc. Further discussion ensued.
Ms. Pierson asked Mr. Waggoner to list his priorities. For Prior-
ity Number 1 he listed Storm Drainage, City Survey, Overlay Pro-
gram, Paving District, and Sidewalk District. For Priority Num-
ber 2 he listed Dartmouth Widening, Broadway Planters, Broadway
Widening for the entire strip that has not been improved, Union
Bridge connector, Rights-of-Ways, Little Dry Creek improvements.
His Number 3 priorities included Floyd Avenue at Broadway, Floyd
Avenue Extension, Bannock and Sherman improvements, and the
Municipal Refuse rated lowest.
Mrs. Romans inquired whether the Commissioners had received the
memorandum regarding the Old Timers' request to light Denny Miller
Field and remodel the building? Everyone had.
Mr. Waggoner commented that no funds have been included in either
his project requests or Mr . Romans' to pay for the trees that
will go in the planters or for the sprinkling system. The total
amount of installation of the sprinkling system will probably be
around $25,000.00.
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Mr. Romans' request which was submitted at the request of the
Old Timers Association for lighting of Denny Miller field and
the remodeling of the building was discussed .
Mr. Nollenberger inquired whether Ms. Pierson's question on
the bookmobile garage was answered last time. Mrs. Romans said
yes;. it would cost $20,000.
Mr. Martin then discussed timing of the budget
improvement projects. Ms. Pierson requested a
the one on the wall for each Commission member
making their decisions relative to priorities.
agreed to do so.
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to study when
Mrs. Romans
It was decided that the resolution for the Housing Authority
would be tabled till September 9th. Mrs. Romans mentioned the
104-Unit Housing going to a G.O. Bond Election December 24, 1975,
and the reasoning for the postponment of the election to that
date . Discussion followed.
Under Director's Choice, Mrs. Romans discussed the procedure that
is being followed to prepare for the hearings on the amendment to
the zoning map, zoning those areas which were R-2-A and R-2-B
to R-2 and R-3A and R-3-B to R-3 . Discussion followed pertaining
to certain areas and the zoning therein. After lengthy discussion,
Mrs. Romans said that they are t rying to set up a hearing for as
early in October as possible .
Mrs. Romans told about a possible development on the Larwin site.
She stated that all Department Heads would be getting a memo on
Thursday regarding a meeting to discuss this site and its possible
development. A gentleman from Larwin will be in town next week
and Mrs. Romans has been in contact with a realtor who is involved
in the proposed development •. Discussion followed.
Further, Mrs. Romans explained about another gentleman interested
in developing the l and on South Cherokee Street north of West
Kenyon Avenue which will be zoned. This District permits multi-
family development as well as including offices for doctors,
lawyers, dentists, architects, engineers. The entity which wants
to develop there is a branch of Westinghouse; they want a 1 or 2
story building to house 40 members of their firm, 90% engiIEers,
10% clerical. Mrs . Roma n s stressed how excited this firm is in
moving into Englewood and it was concluded that September 9th,
5:30 p.m. would be an appropriate time to meet with them.
In closing, it was decided t hat Mrs. Pierson would draw up a
resolution for Attorney George Lee who has been appointed to
serve as a District Judge .
The meeting was adjourned at 10:00 P.M .
Donna Sovern '
_9_ Recording Secretary