HomeMy WebLinkAbout1975-10-21 PZC MINUTESCITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
October 21, 1975
I. CALL TO ORDER.
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission
was called to order at 7:05 p.m. by Chairman Martino
Members present: Wade, Brown, Jones, Jorgenson, Martin,
Parker, Pierson, Smith, Tanguma
Romans, Ex-officio
Members absent: None
Also present: Assistant City Attorney DeWitt; Associate
Planner House.
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
Chairman Martin stated that the Minutes of September 30, 1975,
October 7, 1975, and October 14, 1975, were to be considered
for approval.
It was noted that the Minutes of September 30, 1975, should be
amended on Page 4, to reflect that Mr. Jorgenson was absent.
Parker moved:
Pierson seconded: The Minutes of September 30, 1975, be
approved as amended on Page 4; and the
Minutes of October 7, 1975, and October
14, 1975, be approved as written.
AYES: Tanguma, Wade, Brown, Jones, Jorgenson, Martin, Parker
Pierson, Smith
NAYS: None
The motion carried.
III. COMPREHENSIVE ZONING MAP
An area previously zoned
R-2-A to be considered
for R-1-C zoning.
Brown moved:
CASE #28-75
Wade seconded: The Public Hearing on Case #28-75 be opened.
AYES: Smith, Tanguma, Wade, Brown, Jones, Jorgenson, Martin,
Parker, Pierson
NAYS: None
The motion carried.
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Mr. Martin outlined procedures to be followed during the ~
Public Hearing. He asked that persons wishing to speak come ~
to the podium and speak into the microphone so that all could
hear their comments, and also that the recorder would pick up
their comments; he then asked that all persons wishing to speak
identify themselves by name and address. Mr. Martin stated
that he would first ask the proponents of the matter to present
their case, and the opponents would then be given an opportunity
to speak. Mr. Martin expressed the hope that repitition would
be kept to a minimum, and that each group would have a "spokes-
man" to present their case. Mr. Martin then asked Acting
Director of Community Development Romans to discuss the back-
ground of this matter.
Mrs. Romans stated there are three public hearings scheduled
for this evening relating to properties previously zoned R-2-A
or R-2-B. Mrs. Romans stated that over one year ago, the
Planning Commission, City Council and others became concerned
about the three-story walk-up type apartment structures and
the size of individual units in these structures that were being
constructed, as well as in the other multi-family units. Be-
cause of this concern, the City Council asked the Planning
Commission to give serious study to the multi-family zone dis-
tricts. Since "multi-family" is defined as three or more units,
the R-2-A, R-2-B, R-3-A and R-3-B Zone Districts were included
in the consideration. The Planning Commission then appointed
a committee of citizens of varying occupations and professions
to study these zone districts in depth. Mr. James Keller was
elected Chairman of the Committee, and Mr. George H. Allen
was elected Vice-Chairman. The Committee met regularly for
over a year. Because of Englewood's rather limited area, the
Committee questioned the need for two two-family zone districts,
and for two multi-family zone districts. Considerable effort
was spent by the Committee in developing more restrictive
regulations for one R-2, Medium Density District, and for one
R-3, High Density Residence District, which would replace the
existing R-2-A, R-2-B, R-3-A and R-3-B Zone Districts.
The R-2 Medium Density District regulations provide for in-
creased floor area for units, the required floor area based
on the number of bedrooms proposed for each individual unit;
and if a developer plans to construct more than three units,
he must first file a Planned Development Plan. An amendment
to the R-2 Medium Density District which has been recommended
to City Council, provides that a developer may not construct
more than four units under one roof. Landscaping is required
for all new developments, as is useable open space and the
undergrounding of utility lines to serve the development. Mrs.
Romans stated that the Committee had written four drafts of the
proposed restrictions within the first six months of meeting.
Mrs. Romans stated that in the R-2-A District, which covered
121 acres of land, there were only eleven two-family units on
the required frontage of 75 feet. There were, on the other
hand, quite a few two-family units on a 50 foot lot, a frontage
which is below the required minimum for the R-2-A District.
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There has been no new development of two-family units in the
R-2-A areas for some time, and the Committee felt that a serious
look should be taken at this particular Zone District. There
is very little vacant land in the areas formerly zoned R-2-A,
and any new development would come primarily as a result of
"redevelopment" --that is, removing existing houses which
cannot be rehabilitated to construct new two-family uses.
The Committee met with the C~ty Council and Planning Commission
and recommended that the new R-2 Medium Density District regula-
tions be adopted. The Hearing on the new regulations was held
before the Planning Commission on June 3, 1975, and the Hearing
before the City Council was held August 4, 1975. As part of
the procedure for adopting the new Ordinances, the City Council
repealed the previous R-2-A and R-2-B Zone Districts, and en-
acted the new R-2 Medium Density District regulations by
Ordinance No. 30, Series of 1975. The R-2 regulations became
effective on September 6, 1975, and since that date, the
land previously zoned either R-2-A or R-2-B has been unzoned.
It is the intent of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance that all
land in the City should be within a zone classification;
therefore, the land must be zoned by the City as soon as
possible. Mrs. Romans stated that the Committee appointed by
the Commission tried to up-grade regulations governing the
areas zoned for two-family use, and the staff feels that the
R-2 Medium Density District regulations are both more restrictive,
yet more practical than in the former R-2-A or R-2-B Zone
Districts.
Mrs. Romans stated that the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance con-
sists of both regulations for the various zone districts and
a zoning map. The zoning map could not be amended at the time
the regulations were amended, but had to be amended separately;
therefore, this Hearing is part of the process the City must
go through to amend the Comprehensive Zoning Map.
Mrs. Romans stated that properties have been posted at the
boundaries of the districts, and on major streets; legal
notice of the Public Hearing appeared in the Englewood Herald
Sentinel, the official City Newspaper, on October 1st.
Mrs. Romans stated that on September 11, 1975, at the suggestion
of City Council, some 72 citizens who live in the area on both
sides of South Lincoln and South Sherman Streets between Kenyon
Avenue and Oxford Avenue, met with the staff. This area was
formerly zoned R-2-A. These residents asked the City to post
this area to be zoned to R-1-C, Single-family Residence, rather
than to R-2, Medium Density Residence.
Mrs. Romans compared the requirements of the R-2-A District
with the requirements of the R-1-C District, noting areas of
difference between the two districts. Mrs. Romans stated within
the area previously described, there are 144 single-family
units, 31 two-family units, seven three or four unit structures,
and one eight-unit building. There are two vacant sites. If
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the area were to be recommended for R-1-C zoning, all of the
units that are rented on the date the Ordinance zoning that
area to R-1-C became final, could continue to be rented. Those
units not rented, or units which the owners are not attempting
to rent at the effective date of the Ordinance, could not be
used for rental property in the future. The units that were
rented would be classified as Non-Conforming Uses, which status
would go with the land, and not with the owner; thus, if the
property were sold, the purchaser could continue to rent the
unit. A property owner with a Non-Conforming Use could not
expand the use, nor increase the size of the unit; the units
could be kept up to Code, however, and if a fire or other
calamity not caused by the owner occurred, the Non-Conforming
Use could be rebuilt within a given period of time.
Mr. Martin opened the hearing to comments from the audience.
Ms. Ruth Shepherd
3261 South Galapago -referred to an area north of Floyd Avenue
and asked why the boundary is as indicated?
Mr. Martin stated this area would be considered in a subsequent
hearing, and the Commission would discuss it at that time.
Mrs. Oldenberg
3776 South Lincoln -stated that at one time, she thought it
was stated that if the area were to be
rezoned to R-1-C, persons who own a two-family unit have to
have the units rented at the time the ordinance becomes law or
they could not continue to rent both units.
Mrs. Romans verified that the second unit must be rented or
the owner must be attempting to rent the unit at the time the
Ordinance becomes effective in order to continue the two-family
use in the R-1-C Zone District.
Mrs. Oldenburg stated that at the City Council meeting of
August 4, 1975, a motion was made by Mr. Brown and seconded
by Mr. Clayton wherein the City Council recommended that the
Planning Commission consider changing the area between the
Lincoln/Broadway alley and the Sherman/Grant alley between
Kenyon and Oxford from R-2-A to R-1-C. The motion was passed.
Mrs. Oldenburg stated that residents of the area ''never wanted
to be rezoned in the first place; they would like to have kept
the R-2-A zoning." However, they chose to be zoned to R-1-C
when they learned the R-2 Medium Density District could permit
multi-units up to 14 per acre. Mrs. Oldenburg stated the area
has been called "a slum or blighted" area, and that this is
not true. She stated this particular neighborhood is "one of
the nicest low-density areas in Englewood." She stated that
some of the properties that have been sold and are being held
by rental agencies aren't being kept up as they should be.
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Mrs. Oldenburg continued that most of the people who live in
that area, bought their property because they felt they could
live there the rest of their lives. If the area is rezoned
to R-2 Medium Density, the density will increase, traffic will
increase, and the noise situation will increase. Mrs. Oldenburg
said that in her opinion, there will be parking lots for the
four-unit apartment houses if the area were to be zoned R-2
and on Lincoln, the businessmen from Broadway are already trying
to get parking areas for their businesses. The neighborhood
would "go down the drain", Mrs. Oldenburg stated, and added
t hat there is plenty of land in Englewood already zoned for
multi-family units, and asked "why pick on this area; why not
build apartments in the areas that are zoned for it, and leave
us alone?" Mrs. Oldenburg presented copies of petitions in
support of the R-1-C zoning to the Commission. She stated that
the original of the petitions would be submitted on October 22nd
t o the City Clerk.
Mr. Stacy
3900 South Sherman -stated that he had questions he wanted
answered. First, he "is wondering why they
decided to complicate matters by the elimination of R-2-A"
Zone District?
Mrs. Romans stated that she had attempted to explain this in
her opening remarks. The Commission, Council and members of
the citizens committee appointed by the Planning Commission,
felt the former regulations were not restrictive enough, and
they did not feel it was necessary to have two two-family zone
districts. It was felt the people of the City would be better
served with one two-family district with more restrictions, and
the former R-2-A and R-2-B Zone Districts were repealed at the
time the new R-2 regulations were enacted.
Mr. Stacy asked why the Committee, Commission and Council
couldn't have come up with better regulations, and retained
the former Zone Districts? Mr. Stacy stated he has plans for
his property he owns in the neighborhood and he "intends to
go through with the plans even if [he has1 to circulate petitions
to repeal the decisions that are being made without much notice."
He stated he is opposed to the repeal of the R-2-A Zone District,
and feels the R-1-C Zone District will be too restrictive for
persons who own properties with rental units. Mr. Stacy stated
that "some people will be destroyed" by the R-1-C Zone District.
He stated he did not want the R-1-C Zone District or the R-2
Zone District, and felt it would be better if the City could
place additional restrictions on the R-2-A Zone District.
Mrs. Romans noted that Mr. Stacy owns 75 ft. frontage ; under
the former R-2-A District, he would have been ·permitted a
two-family use; under the R-1-C, he would be permitted a
single-family use; under the R-2 District, Mr. Stacy would
be.permitted a three-unit use.
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Mr. Martin stated this particular public hearing is concerned
with a change of zoning to R-1-C for an area previously zoned
R-2-A. Mr. Stacy asked if the R-2 would be considered for
this area. Mr. Martin stated not at this time.
Mrs. Oldenburg.asked why "were we zoned from R-2-A?· None of
us really want R-1-C; we just want to be the way we were."
Mrs. Romans reiterated that the R-2-A Zone District has been
repealed, and there is no such zone classification any more.
Mrs. Romans stated that if the residents want the R-2-A zoning,
it would be up to the Planning Commission and City Council to
amend the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance to reinstate an R-2-A
District. Mr. Martin asked if anyone present from this area
would oppose an R-2-A District? No one indicated they would
be opposed. Mr. John Criswell, Attorney at Law, stated that
since there is no R-2-A Zone District contained in the Compre-
hensive Zoning Ordinance, it would have to depend on what the
proposed R-2-A regulations provided.
Mr. Virgil Thomas
3810 South Lincoln -stated he has lived in Englewood for 35
years, and thinks it is very important
for us to preserve the single-family dwelling unit neighborhoods.
Mr. Thomas stated it is important to have single-family dwelling
units close to schools; this area is close to a high school
and a junior high school, as well as a grade school. Mr. Thomas
stated he understood the position of persons who have invested
money in the rental units, but he thinks it is time we think in
terms of single-family dwelling units and preserve and up-grade
those areas that can be preserved and up-graded. Mr. Thomas
stated he is in favor of the R-1-C Zone District.
Mr. Lou Cangilla
5000 South Delaware -stated that a lot of persons missed the
procedure followed when the R-2-A and
R-2-B districts were repealed. Why wasn't the City required
to post the property at that time? He stated that he never saw
any notice the City was going to repeal those two districts.
Mrs. Romans stated to amend the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance
regulations, it is required to have a legal notice published
in the official City Newspaper. To amend the official Zoning
Map, properties must be posted in addition to the legal notice
in the official City Newspaper. It was the opinion of the
City Attorney's Office that the properties did not need to be
posted when the R-2-A and R-2-B Districts were repealed, but
the properties did need to be posted at such time as the map
was to be amended, which is the procedure underway.
Mr. Cangilla stated. he felt the procedure that has been followed
is "backwards"; the idea of City Government is for the people
to advise what they want done; if they don't know what is going
on, they cannot advise the governmental body. Mr. Cangilla
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asked that "the Assistant City Attorney give a 'bona fide'
ruling why the Hearings are taking place tonight", and why
the property wasn't posted on the repeal of the previous zone
districts.
Mr. Brown stated that Mrs. Romans has discussed the procedure
the Commission is following, and the City Attorney's opinion
regarding this procedure. Mr. Brown further noted that the
Commission accepts the legal advice given by the City Attorney's
office, and that the present Assistant City Attorney has been
with the City only three weeks, and had nothing to do with the
matter. It was stated that City Attorney Berardini is on
vacation; Mr. Cangilla stated that he "thinks maybe the City
Attorney could have foregone his vacation for something as
important as these Hearings." He felt the Commission "does
need bona fide legal counsel here."
Mr. John Criswell
3780 South Broadway -stated that he would speak in · opposition
to the proposal before the Commission
later this evening. He would now like to indicate his feelings
that if the Hearings continue on the route they have taken thus
far, there will be problems. ¥r. Criswell again pointed out
there is no R-2-A Zone District, and the question to be addressed
is whether one is in favor of the R-1-C zoning, or opposed to
the R-1-C zoning. Mr. Criswell pointed out the fact that the
lands previously zoned R-2-A or R-2-B are now unzoned; unless
some decision is made on zoning these lands within 120 days,
a property owner may apply tothe Building Division for a Permit
for any use they so please, such as a service station, for in-
stance. Mr. Criswell stated that "with all due respect, the
criticism isn't getting us anywhereo" ,He stated that the only
decision to be made is whether to zone the properties R-1-C
or R-2; to talk about adequate notice on the repeal of the
R-2-A or R-2-B Zone Districts is beside the point. Mr. Criswell
stated he would like to hear the comments in favor of or opposition
to the R-1-C Zone District.
Mrs. Campbell
3865 South Lincoln -stated that since the R-2-A District is
no longer in effect, she pointed out there
were 150 signers to the petitions for R-1-C Zone District.
Mrs. Campbell stated there are many single-family homes in the
area, and she stated she wished "the City would leave us alone."
Mr. Duffey
3895 South Sherman -stated that he has three units on his property,
and the R-1-C Zone District worries him; if
one of his units is empty at the time the Ordinance would be
effective he would be "stuck". He stated he is heavily mortgaged
on the property, and the rental income pays the mortgage payment.
He stated that today, housing costs have virtually prohibited
young people from purchasing homes •
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Mr. Martin stated that as long as Mr. Duffey was renting or
attempting to rent the units, he could continue to do so, and
there would be no problem should the area be zoned to R-1-C.
Mr. Duffey asked what the effect would be if he should want to
sell his property? Mr. Martin stated that the non-conforming
use status goes with the land, not with the individual; the
new owner would have the right to continue the non-conforming
use.
Mr. Ed White
160 East Dartmouth -asked for clarification of a "Non-Conforming
Use."
Mrs. Romans stated that a non-conforming use is a use which
goes with the land and not with an individual property owner.
Mr. Smith stated he wanted t o r eassure the members of the
audience that the continuance of Non-Conforming Uses is fact;
he stated that he has owned some rental property, and the
Building Division sends a card to the property owners each year
asking whether or not the Non-Conforming status of the property
is still applicable; the property owner answers on the card if
he still wishes to retain the Non-Conforming Use. If the card
is not answered immediately, there is still a period of time
in which the Non-Conforming Use status may be reinstated on
the property. Mr. Smith stated he wanted to assure people
that it does work.
Ms. Yvonne Naudack
3997 South Lincoln -asked if persons would have an opportunity
to vote on the matter of the R-1-C Zoning?
Mr. Martin stated that the petitions that have been presented
will have some bearing on the decision of the Commission, as
will the comments heard this evening.
Mr. Martin again asked that those persons in favor of the
R-1-C Zoning and those persons opposed to the zoning have a
spokesman to present their statements if possible.
Mrs. Oldenburg stated that while there are 150 signatures on
the petitions presented to the Commission asking for the R-1-C
zoning, not all persons who had indicated they were in favor
of the R-1-C zoning signed the petitions.
Mr. Martin asked for a show of hands of individuals in favor
of the R-1-C? Sixty-five (65) persons indicated they favored
the R-1-C zone classification.
Mr. Martin asked for a show of hands of persons opposed to
the R-1-C zone classification? Nine (9) persons indicated
they opposed the R-1-C Zoning.
Assistant City Attorney DeWitt stated that the petitions
presented will be read by the members of the Commission, and ·
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will be taken into consideration in making their determination.
Mr. DeWitt stated it is entirely up to the individual Commission
members what weight is given the petitions and comments in
their deliberations.
Mr. Jim Allen
3815 South Sherman -stated that he purchased his property as
an investment; the house is old, and if
he wanted to replace this unit with a two-unit structure, he
could not do so under the R-1-C zoning. He stated the R-1-C
zoning isn't fair to persons who have bought property in the
area for investment purposes. Mr. Allen suggested that the
zoning should "go back the way it was."
Mr. Stacy stated that he would submit if the Commission is
really concerned about the citizens, they would have the people
stand to indicate the number who would like to have the R-2-A
zoning reinstated. He stated he felt the Commission would try
"to come up with something realistic", if they were really
concerned about the people. Mr. Martin noted that this hearing
is limited to consideration of the R-1-C Zone District proposed
for the area. Mr. Stacy stated he felt the Commission would
be very narrow minded if they didn't hear what the citizens
in the area wanted. Mr. Stacy stated he felt proceedings were
probably illegal on this matter up to this point.
Mr. Mal Atkins
3814 South Sherman -stated that he works in the Code Enforce-
ment Division and that "it will be a cold
day in hell before [he] gives approval for a filling station
in this residential area." Mr. Atkins stated he would suggest
postponement of the Hearing until such time as a better pro-
posal is made. He stated there are too many people unhappy
with the zone district that is proposed.
Mr. Burkett
4108 South Inca -stated it appeared to him there was but one
choice, and that is to "vote" against the
R-1-C Zone classification; "if you are unhappy with the choice
presented, you defeat what is before you and petition to get
what you want."
Mr. John Criswell stated that the concensus is that everybody
was reasonably happy with the R-2-A Zone classification. He
stated that, as an attorney, it is his honest view the City
doesn't have the authority to change the zone district. He
stated there has been no change in the neighborhood to warrant
a change of zoning. Mr. Criswell stated he has been retained
by opponents of the proposed R-1-C Zone District. Mr. Criswell
stated that the only thing that has happened in the neighborhood
since the 1963 City-wide zoning, is the designation of South
Sherman as a one-way street. Mr. Criswell stated that it is
true that property rented on the effective date of the R-1-C
Ordinance, if approved, could continue to be rented; and that
it is true a person could replace a Non-Conforming Use if
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destroyed by natural causes; but persons who have purchased
property for investment purposes and who plan to remodel the
properties to accommodate two units could not do so under the
R-1-C zoning unless such remodeling would be completed prior
to the effective date of the R-1-C zoning. Mr. Criswell stated
that if the area is recommended for R-1-C zoning, persons who
have purchased their property for investment purposes will be
deprived. If, on the other hand, the R-2 classification were
to be recommended, this would allow the property owners of
rental units to realize their investment, and would not make
owners of single-family units non-conforming. Mr. Criswell
discussed the differences between the previous R-2-A zoning
and the existing R-2 Zone District. Mr. Criswell noted there
is very little vacant land, and anyone wanting to build would
have to replace existing older structures. Mr. Criswell noted
that under the R-2 Zone classification, persons wanting to
build four units would have to apply for a Planned Development
and get approval from the Commission and from City Council;
these Planned Development plans would have to be recorded in
the County, and construction would have to conform with the
Development Plans. Mr. Criswell stated there is no way one
could construct apartment buildings in this area under the
R-2 zoning.
Mr. Criswell stated that approval of the R-2 Zone classification
would allow those people who bought property in reliance of the
zoning the opportunity to go ahead and use their property as
R-2. Mr. Criswell urged that the City not deny right to use
their property to those persons who have purchased the property
for rental use.
Mr. Criswell presented members of the Commission a memorandum
setting forth statistics for the areas of the City that were
zoned to R-2-A; it was noted in this memorandum there are a
greater number of multi-family or more than single-family units
in this particular area than in the other areas of the City
which were previously in the R-2-A District. Mr. Criswell
stated he did not understand how the Planning Commission, City
Council or any person in the City administration could urge
that this area be down-zoned to R-1-C, while other areas pre-
viously zoned R-2-A are still being considered for R-2,
particularly in view of the fact there is great concentration
of two-family uses in this particular area.
Mr. Schwayder
3826 South Lincoln stated he had been canvassing the area
for the last few days, and he knows most
of the people in the area want the R-1-C zoning, and that this
is the only hope they have for this area. He stated he had
lived there since 1940, and he does know what he is talking
about: the people want the R-1-C zoning.
Mrs. Oldenburg stated that in her block alone, one individual
owns three lots --three 50 foot sites; some of the people
are getting older, and as these properties come on the market,
they are being bought by developers, who don't care anything
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about the City of Englewood. She reiterated that the majority
of the people want the area left as it is. Mrs. Oldenburg
reiterated that the only persons present at the Council meeting
of August 4th regarding the zoning, were individuals from this
subject area, and that is why only this particular area is
being considered for R-1-C zoning.
Mr. Farmer
3998 South Sherman -asked what effect the R-1-C zoning would
have on the value of his property if the
zoning is approved; he stated that he has a two-family dwelling
on his property. Mrs. Romans stated that she did not know
what effect the zoning would have on the price of his property.
Mr. Farmer stated he understood that two-family properties
would have to be registered as Non-Conforming Uses if the R-1-C
zoning is approved; he asked if there were any other restrictions
that would be in effect? Mr. Martin stated no.
Mrs. Oldenburg stated she had asked three different realtors
what difference there would be in property values in this
area if the R-1-C zoning is approved; they all said the difference
would be none or very negligible.
Wade moved:
Jones seconded: The Public Hearing on Case #28-75 be closed.
AYES: Pierson, Smith, Tanguma, Wade, Brown, Jones, Jorgenson,
Martin, Parker
NAYS: None
The motion carried.
Mr. Martin asked the pleasure of the Commission on the disposition
of this matter?
Jones moved:
Tanguma seconded: The matter of Case #28-75 be tabled for
further information and consideration.
AYES: Parker, Pierson, Smith , Tanguma, Wade, Brown, Jones,
Jorgenson
NAYS: Martin
The motion carried.
Mr. Martin asked the date of the next Planning Commission
meeting? Mrs. Romans stated the next scheduled meeting is
November 11th. Mr. Martin asked about the possibility of a
special meeting?
Jones moved:
Pierson seconded: Case #28-75 shall be considered at the next
regular meeting of November 11th, at 7:00 p.m •
AYES: Martin, Parker, Pierson, Smith, Tanguma, Wade, Brown,
Jones, Jorgenson
NAYS: None
The motion carried.
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A recess of the Commission was called. The meeting was
reconvened at 9:20 p.m. with all members present.
IV. COMPREHENSIVE ZONING MAP
An area previously zoned
R-2-A to be considered
for R-2 zoning.
Wade moved:
CASE #29-75
Brown seconded: The Public Hearing on Case #29-75 be openedo
AYES: Jorgenson, Martin, Parker, Pierson, Smith, Tanguma,
Wade, Brown, Jones
NAYS: None
The motion carried.
Mrs. Romans stated that legal notice of the Public Hearing
appeared in the Englewood Herald Sentinel on October 1st.
Mrs. Romans stated that this Hearing is concerned with areas
that were previously zoned R-2-A, Two-family Residential, which
areas are now proposed to be zoned R-2. Areas previously
zoned R-2-A which are now considered for R-2 include an area
west of Broadway and north of Eastman Avenue, and an area
east of Broadway north of Eastman Avenue along both sides of
South Sherman Street. Mrs. Romans stated that in the area west
of South Broadway, there are 240 single-family units, 39 two-
family units, three three-family units, two four-family units,
and one six-unit complex. There is one store, and three
vacant lots, and one school in this subject area. Mrs. Romans
noted there are 38 two-family units in this area which do not
meet the minimum land requirements of the R-2-A Zone District.
Mrs. Romans noted there are two 50 ft. vacant sites, and one
75 fto vacant site in the area. Mrs. Romans stated the R-2
Zone classification was not developed with the idea of "hurting"
any property owner, but rather with the idea of ensuring better
development by tightening the requirements and raising the
standards for development. The height restrictions will re-
main the same --two stories or 25 feet. The staff feels the
new regulations will give property owners protection for their
neighborhoods; if someone wants to construct a four-unit structure,
they would have to file a Planned Development Plan, which would
necessitate hearings before the Planning Commission and City
Council, and would have to be recorded in Arapahoe County.
Mrs. Romans stated that the Planning Commission held a Public
Hearing on October 14th, and recommended to City Council a
provision to prohibit construction of more than four units
under one roof in the R-2 Zone District.
Mr. Cangilla stated that he was not interested in the property
located in the north part of the City, but was interested in
a small piece of property at Belleview and South Cherokee, ex-
tended. Mrs. Romans stated that this property is bounded by •
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West Belleview Avenue on the south, South Cherokee extended
on the east, by West Grand Avenue on the north, and by the
rear property line of structures fronting on South Delaware
on the west. The property is not platted, and has, at this
time, one two-story structure with an apartment on the upper
level and garage facilities on the lower level, and a detached
house on it.
Mrso Romans stated that the staff feels the existing R-2
Zone District is an improvement over the previous R-2-A and
R-2-B Zone Districtso She noted that two separate structures
on one site not under one roof and sharing a party wall will
no longer be permitted; they must be under one roof and must
share a party wall to qualify as a two-family unit. Mrs.
Romans stated the R-2 District does not permit apartment
houses, nor high-rise buildings. Churches, schools and public
buildings will have to have a minimum of one acre before they
can be constructed. Floor area requirements have been increased;
the maximum percentage of lot coverage remains the same. Under
the new provisions, garages and covered parking are not in-
cluded in maximum lot coverage computations. Developers must
have 50% of the lot in useable open space, 15% of which must
be in landscaping. Utility lines in new developments must be
placed underground. Day care centers have been included as
permitted uses in the new R-2 provisions, rather than as
conditional uses which required specific approval by the Com-
mission. Day care centers must meet State requirements, the
Fire Code and Building Code. Mrs. Romans stated there has been
no change on requirements for front, side or rear yards; no
change in permitted home occupations, etc. There are the
usual provisions to control noise, smoke, etc. which might ex-
tend beyond the property line. Mrs. Romans stated that the
new R-2 provisions are more flexible for persons who have less
than a 75 ft. frontage in their ownerships. Mrs. Romans out-
lined other areas previously zoned R-2-A which were to be
considered for the R-2 zoning, and stated that possibly the
Commission would want to consider these areas at the same time.
Mr. Marshall asked if the 3200 block of South Bannock Street
was zoned R-2-A? It was noted that this block was previously
zoned R-2-A, and is now unzoned.
Mr. Martin asked persons in favor of the R-2 Zone District to
speak. No one indicated a desire to speak.
Mr. Martin then asked for persons opposed to the R-2 designation
to speak.
Mr. Norman Kasch
3290 South Bannock Street -stated that he is· a partner of
Marshall-Kasch & Associates at the
aforegiven address. He stated their business is right next to
the Yellow-Front Store. Mr. Marshall purchased the property
in 1972, and the property was zoned B-1 at that time. Mr •. Kasch
stated that their off ice building was constructed in 1972 and
occupied in 1973, and is used solely as an architect's office.
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Mr. Kasch stated that early this year, they were approached
by a property owner immediately to the north of their building, •
who asked if he and Mr. Marshall were interested in purchasing
this property. There are six dwelling units on this property
which are very old and very small. Mr. Kasch stated they
have purchased.this property, and a single-family property at
3260 South Bannock, which is just north of the property with
the six units. They purchased the additional property on South
Bannock "to have control" of the property so that nothing which
would depreciate their office use would go in on it. Mr. Kasch
stated that be and Mr. Marshall are asking to be excluded from
the proposed R-2 zoning; they want to make application for
zoning on their own.
Mr. Martin asked if anyone else wished to speak?
Ms. Ruth Shepherd
3261 South Galapago -asked why the boundaries of the R-2
zoning north of Floyd and Eastman
Avenues are as depicted on the Map?
Mrs. Romans stated that the City at this time is considering
only those areas which were previously zoned for two-family
use; the City is not trying to change zoning on any other
areas. Mrs. Romans stated that if the people of this area
just north of Floyd Avenue applied for rezoning, the City
would have to consider it. The City did agree at the time of
the election to sell the former City Park for development of
Cinderella City Shopping Center, that the City would do nothing
to prevent this area from continuing as a single-family area.
The people who live north of Floyd Avenue and south of Eastman
Avenue want to retain the single-family zoning of their area.
Mrs. Romans stated that most of the area considered for the
R-2 zoning has been zoned for two-family use since 1940, or
since annexation to the City, and there are two-family uses in
these areas.
Mr. Cangilla
5000 South Delaware -stated that when he built his home in
1960, the Carmel Park apartments were
zoned R-3; the property west of Carmel Park and abutting his
property on the east was zoned R-1 --single-family. Mr.
Cangilla stated that over the years, persons living in the
single-family area on Delaware and to the north and west of the
subject site have had to fight zone changes proposed for the
property which is bounded by Grand Avenue on the north, Belleview
on the south, Cherokee extended on the east, and the rear
property lines of properties fronting on Delaware Street on the
west. Persons living in the single-family areas feel they will
be hurt by any zone change on the subject property, but they
did agree to an R~2-A zoning which they felt was a natural
buffer between the single-family on Delaware Street and the
multi-family development in Carmel Park. Mr. Cangilla stated
that the single-family area is a very nice residential neighbor-
hood. Mr. Cangilla stated that the property abutting his
property on the east is approximately 2-1/2 acres; this would
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allow, under the proposed R-2 zoning, approximately 28 to 35
units on that lando Under the previous R-2-A zoning, approxi-
mately 16 units could have been developed on this land. Mr.
Cangilla stated that the proposed zoning would increase the
density to a greater extent than what the area calls for.
Mr. Cangilla stated that "the type of city [he] wants is some
protection from City government." Mr. Cangilla reiterated
that when he bought his land, the property abutting to the
east was also zoned R-1. Mr. Cangilla stated that he feels
the proposed R-2 Zone District is less restrictive than the
former R-2-A Zone District. Mr. Cangilla asked why the land
had not developed?
Mrs. Romans stated that persons who have come to the office
to inquire about the subject land have said they cannot pay
the price asked for the land and develop it to the density
permitted under the R-2-A. Mr. Cangilla stated that the City
of Englewood made an error when Carmel Park was built in not
requiring dedication of Cherokee Street. He stated he feels
this is the reason the land has not developed; the property
owner could not afford to give the land for the street and
cut down on the land area left for development. Mrs. Romans
pointed out that the subject land is under the third ownership
since Mr. Cangilla purchased his land abutting on the west.
Mrs. Romans further pointed out that when the Carmel Park De-
velopment was underway, Mr. Lopata, the property owner, offered
to dedicate the east 1/2 of the street, but Mr. Thompson,
property owner to the west, refused to do so. Mr. Thompson
subsequently sold the property to Mr. Schleglemilch, who then
offered to dedicate the west 1/2 of South Cherokee Street, and
the property owners of Carmel Park were no longer interested in
dedicating the east 1/2 of the street. Mrs. Caskey now owns
the property, and inquiries regarding commercial zoning on the
property have been received by the Department of Community
Development. Mrs. Romans reiterated that the City has tried
to get dedication of the street, but the involved property owners
have not been interested in dedication at the same time.
Mr. Cangilla asked why the City didn't accept the dedications
at the time they were offered? Mr. Cangilla stated that 1he
school immediately to the north of the subject site has a
swimming pool, tennis courts and handball courts, and other
recreational facilities, plus the 11 12 apartment houses." He
stated that if the City feels justified in adding a greater
density to this part of town, he firmly disagrees. Mr. Cangilla
stated that the City should exert every effort to preserve the
single-family homes. He referred to an "analysis" of the pre-
vious R-2-A, R-2-B, and existing R-2 Zone Districts; which
members of the audience picked up at the door; he stated that
the term "existing" is in error. Mrs. Romans·stated 1hat the
R-2 Zone District regulations are existing.
Mrs. June Hively asked how the architectural business on South
Bannock Street in the 3200 block was permitted there; it is a
residential area, and the residents are very much opposed to
any :further expansion of the commercial uses in that area.
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Mr. George Noffsinger stated he had been around town for a
long time, and has been in construction. There are a lot of ~
elderly people who have been planning for years to fix up a
basement apartment to supplement their income after retirement;
if these individuals do not have sufficient land area to meet
the requirements for a two-family use, do they have the right
to go to the Board of Adjustment for a variance? Mrs. Romans
stated that if there is no other land abutting their land that
is available for purchase to bring their ownership up to the
requirement, the individual may apply to the Board of Adjustment
for a variance. Mrs. Romans cautioned that conversion of
basements into apartments would have to meet the Building Code,
also.
Mr. Roy Hank.le
5050 South Delaware -stated there were only eight families
living in the 5000 block of South Delaware
whose properties abut the proposed R-2 zoning. Mr. Hank.le
stated that the increased density that would be possible under
the proposed R-2 zoning would be "very difficult to live with",
and he asked that a different zone category be considered for
1his abutting area, or that the R-2-A Zone District be left as
it was.
There were no further comments from the audience.
Brown moved:
Wade seconded: The Public Hearing on Case #29-75 be closed.
AYES: Jones, Jorgenson, Martin, Parker, Pierson, Smith, Tanguma,
Wade, Brown
NAYS: None
The motion carried.
Pierson moved:
Jones seconded: The matter of Case #29-75 be tabled for
further consideration until November 11, 1975.
AYES: Brown, Jones, Jorgenson, Martin, Parker, Pierson, Smith,
Tanguma, Wade
NAYS: None
The motion carried.
V. COMPREHENSIVE ZONING MAP
An area previously zoned
R-2-B to be considered
for R-2 Zone District.
Jones moved:
CASE #30-75
Jorgenson seconded: The Public Hearing on Case #30-75 be
opened.
AYES:
NAYS:
Wade, Brown, Jones, Jorgenson, Martin, Parker, Pierson,
Smith, Tanguma
None
The motion carried ,
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Mrs. Winnie Watkins
2701 South Acoma -stated that one of the signs notifying
residents of the meeting is placed in
front of her house; however, she thought the sign said the
area was to be considered for business zoning.
Mrs. Romans stated that the area was posted for consideration
as R-2 zoning, and was formerly zoned R-2-B, which is a two-
family residence district. Mrs. Romans then reviewed the regula-
tions of the former R-2-B District, which are very similar to
the existing R-2 Zone District. Mrs. Romans noted that an
amendment to the R-2 District has been recommended to City Council,
which amendment would limit the number of dwelling units per-
mitted under one roof to no more than four; this provision was
not contained in the R-2-B Regulationso The height provisions
of the two districts are the same --25 feet. The staff is of
the opinion the existing R-2 Zone District regulations are
more restrictive than the previous R-2-B Zone District regula-
tions.
Mr. Martin asked if there was any member of the audience who
wished to speak either in favor or opposition to the proposed
zone district? No member of the audience indicated a desire
to speak.
Parker moved:
Jorgenson seconded: The Public Hearing on Case #30-75 be closed.
AYES: Tanguma, Wade, Brown, Jones, Jorgenson, Martin, Parker,
Pierson, Smith
NAYS: None
The motion carried.
Jones moved:
Wade seconded: The matter of Case #30-75 be tabled for further
consideration until November 11, 1975.
AYES: Smith, Tanguma, Wade, Brown, Jones, Jorgenson, Martin,
Parker, Pierson
NAYS: None
The motion carried.
Mr. Martin thanked members of the audience for the interest
in the matter, and for attending the meeting.
VI . DIRECTOR'S CHOICE
Mrs. Romans stated that Assistant Director of ·community Develop-
ment Brokate had called to her attention that Majestic Savings
has advertised for bids for a structure at 5095 South Broadway •
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VII. COMMISSION'S CHOICE
There was nothing discussed under Commission's choice.
The meeting adjourned at 10:25 p.m.
Gertrude G. Welty
Recording Secretary
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