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CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
FEBRUARY 17, 1988
CALL TO ORDER.
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called to
order at 7:00 P.M. by Chairman Hanson in the George Perrin Conference Room in
the Englewood Public Library.
Members present: Russell, Such, Draper, Barbre, Hanson, Fish, Schultz,
Carson
Romans, Ex-officio
Members absent: None
Also present: Bob Marx, Greater Englewood Chamber of Commerce
Roger Mutz, Regional Transportation District
J. Bear Baker, Regional Transportation District
(Mr. Baker was not present at the time the meeting was called to order, but
entered later during the course of the meeting.)
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
February 2, 1988
Chairman Hanson stated that the Minutes of February 2, 1988 were to be con-
sidered for approval.
Carson moved:
Draper seconded: The Minutes of February 2, 1988 be approved as written.
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
Such,
None
None
None
Draper, Barbre, Hanson, Schultz, Fish, Russell, Carson
The motion carried.
III. LANDSCAPING ORDINANCE
Section 16-4-18
CASE #15-87
Mr. Hanson stated that a Public Hearing on proposed amendments to the Land-
scaping Ordinance section of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance is scheduled
for this evening, and stated that he has received a copy of the public notice
which was published in the Englewood Sentinel on February 3, 1988. Mr. Hanson
asked if the staff had a presentation.
Carson moved:
Barbre seconded: The Public Hearing on Case #15-87 be opened.
AYES:
NAYS :
Schultz, Barbre, Hanson, Fish, Draper, Russell, Carson, Such
None
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ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
The motion carried.
Mrs. Romans was sworn in, and stated that at the previous meeting of February
2, members of the Commission were given a work copy citing the Landscaping
provisions as they presently exist in the Englewood Municipal Code, citing
amendments which were recommended to Council by the Commission in May of 1987,
citing amendments which were suggested by the Greater Englewood Chamber of
Commerce, and citing a resolution to the sections which had been questioned by
the Chamber, which resolution was determined by the Commission in October,
1987. This has been refined to one document which is before the Commission
for Public Hearing, and the issues to be heard by the Commission are those
which were determined in October. Mrs. Romans submitted for the record a let-
ter from Mr. Kenneth R. Hope, Representative of the City Liaison and
Governmental Affairs Committee of the Greater Englewood Chamber of Commerce,
expressing the satisfaction and pleasure of the Chamber with the resolution of
their concerns on the Landscaping Ordinance.
Mrs. Romans stated that there has been no contact from the general public
regarding the proposed amendments since the public notice was published.
Mr . Hanson asked if there were any questions of Mrs. Romans from the Commis-
sion. No questions were posed to Mrs. Romans.
Mr. Hanson asked if anyone in the audience wished to address the Commission.
Mr . Bob Marx was sworn in, and testified that he maintains offices at 3701
South Broadway, and is a representative of the Greater Englewood Chamber of
Commerce. He expressed the appreciation of the Chamber for the cooperation
they have received from the Planning Commission, and particularly from Mrs.
Romans, regarding the concerns that were expressed by the Chamber on the pro-
posed amendments. Mr. Marx stated that he felt, with these amendments, the
City now has a good, total ordinance . The Chamber is pleased to be included
in the drafting and consideration of laws that affect the City.
Mr. Hanson asked if there were any further questions, or anyone else who
wished to address the Commission . There were no other persons who wished to
do so.
Carson moved:
Such seconded:
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
Barbre,
None
None
None
The Public Hearing be closed.
Hanson, Schultz, Fish, Russell, Such, Draper, Carson
The motion carried .
Mr. Fish asked for clarification of the $1 x 10% of lot area; is this square
footage, or acreage. Mrs. Romans stated that lot area usually is cited in
square footage, but it would pertain to acreage , as well . It would be 10% of
the size, or area, of the lot .
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Carson moved:
Such seconded:
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSENT :
ABSTAIN:
Hanson,
None
None
None
The City Planning and Zoning Commission approve the amend -
ments to the Landscaping Ordinance, and refer the document
to the City Council with a recommendation for favorable
consideration .
Draper, Fish, Russell, Such, Schultz, Carson, Barbre
The motion carried.
IV. REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION DISTRICT.
Mrs. Romans introduced Mr. Roger Mutz from the Regional Transportation
District.
Mr. Mutz stated that House Bill #1249 was passed last year. In response to
this Bill , RTD set out to develop a regional rapid transit system. Mr. Mutz
presented a slide show of various types of rapid transit systems, such as the
light rail transit, high occupancy vehicle lanes, automated guideway transit,
guided bus, etc. The slide show also addressed issues such as routes, cost
estimates , sources of funding, construction timetables, and technologies to be
used. At the close of the slide show, Mr. Mutz asked for questions from the
Commission.
Mrs . Russell stated that she was familiar with the rapid transit system in
Chicago, which goes through high density residential areas and is readily ac-
cessible by a large ridership. The Denver metro area is so spread out, how
will potential riders get from their places of residence to the rapid transit
stations. Mr. Mutz suggested park 'n ride lots will be used; large 2,000
vehicle lots in the outlying suburban areas, and the closer in areas can use
the bus system. Mrs . Russell suggested that RTD might consider the use of
smaller park 'n ride lots . Mr. Mutz stated that they will also look at joint
use facilities, such as shopping center parking areas. Mr. Mutz stated that
the parking needs along the transit corridors have yet to be determined, and
availability of area for park 'n rides along the corridors has also to be
determined.
Mr. Fish stated that it appeared the transit system is a "spoke system"; how
does the bus system work with this proposed design. Mr. Mutz stated that it
makes for an efficient system; the buses would serve a collection/distribution
purpose to the rapid transit stations from the normal bus stops.
Mr. Carson asked who made the determination on the Santa Fe corridor. He ex -
pressed his opinion that development of this corridor for rapid transit would
not be of any benefit to the City of Englewood. Mr. Carson stated that the
Englewood City Council has turned down park 'n ride proposals at Cinderella
City for the last 10 years that he is aware of . Mr . Mutz stated that in
determining the corridors , the policy group looks at location, ridership, and
other facets, and the Santa Fe corridor was recommended by the Santa Fe Corri-
dor Policy Group. Mr. Carson questioned Mr. Mutz's statement, and stated that
Englewood Councilman Joe Bilo is a member of the policy group and is opposed
to the Santa Fe Corridor. Mr. Carson stated that he doesn't want to see Cin-
derella City used for Park 'n Ride, but wants to locate such a use in near
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proximity to bring people into the area.
Mrs. Romans pointed out that when discussion of a Park 'n Ride location near
Cinderella City has been considered, it was in the area north of the shopping
center, not in the existing customer parking areas. Mr. Fish stated that a
Park 'n Ride in close proximity to the shopping center could encourage
shoppers.
General discussion on the various types of rapid transit ensued. Mr. Schultz
asked how weather might affect an automated guideway transit if such were to
be developed in the Denver area. Mr. Mutz pointed out that this system is
used successfully in West Germany, and the weather is very similar to that of
Colorado.
Mr. Schultz discussed his trip to Vancouver, B. C. during Expo '86 and the
public transportation system used there. He stated that a ticket for $1.25
would allow a rider to use any form of the transportation system, and that one
could get to almost any point quite easily, quickly, and safely. The system
was very convenient to the customer, and the ridership was high. Mr. Schultz
stated that he would like to see a system designed for the Denver metro area
which would allow riders access within walking distance, and would eliminate
the need for private automobiles to be used to get to a Park 'n Ride.
Mr. Mutz discussed the problems of designing such a system with the lower
residential densities that much of the Denver metro area has; this may change
with an influx of population, however, or a change in population centers.
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Mr. Fish stated that Washington, D.C. also has a good rapid transit system. •
Mrs. Romans agreed, and stated that she found the system in Washington, D.C.
to be clean, quick and convenient.
Mr. Schultz asked why the plan appears to make use of several systems before a
final overall system is imposed . Mr. Mutz stated that part of this is a
reflection of the various population centers and needs to be served, and part
is determined by the financing required.
Financing and the acquisition of right-of-way were discussed.
The ridership on the RTD buses was also discussed. Mr. Carson and Mr. Draper
both stated that they had seen many buses traveling South Broadway that had
very few passengers, and that they had never seen a bus that was full. Mr.
Baker stated that the routes that extend to downtown Denver fill up at Alame-
da, and that very often buses that are traveling south on Broadway from down-
town Denver have unloaded the great portion of the ridership at some point in
Denver.
Mr. Fish asked the status of the project, and what "moves" the project forward
from this point. Mr. Mutz stated that HB #1027 which is before the legisla-
ture now will address the matter of funding and financing which can be used to
implement the plan which has been developed in response to HB #1249 which was
approved last year . Mr. Mutz stated that right-of-way will have to be ac-
quired, and design of the actual system will begin.
Mr. Baker discussed "alternative analysis", and noted that only one can be
done at any one time in a given community because of a Federal funding
restriction. Mr. Baker stated that once a corridor is determined, such as the
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Santa Fe corridor, one must "get in line for the funds", and that it could
take about 18 months before construction could begin .
Mr. Carson asked Mr. Baker why the Santa Fe Corridor was chosen. Mr. Baker
stated that this corridor has great potential for ridership, is a very cost
efficient corridor, and a great deal of the right-of-way is already acquired.
Discussion of a transit corridor on C-470 was discussed, as was the Transit
Construction Authority's plan for the I-25 corridor.
Mr. Hanson thanked Mr. Mutz and Mr. Baker for their attendance and the presen-
tation to the Commission.
V. PUBLIC FORUM.
No one was present to address the Commission under Public Forum.
VI. DIRECTOR'S CHOICE.
Mrs. Romans presented members of the Commission with copies of the Goals adop-
ted by the Commission for 1985/1986. Mrs. Romans identified several of the
goals which have been accomplished. She suggested that the members of the
Commission review these goals, and be prepared to make additions to the list
and discuss goals for 1988 -1989 at the next meeting.
Mrs. Russell excused herself from the meeting.
Mrs. Romans stated that one vacancy remains on the Commission, and that the
City Council will be interviewing to fill this vacancy on February 29.
The City Council approved the vacation of the right-of-way in the 3500 block
of South Jason Street on first reading at the meeting on February 16th.
Mrs. Romans asked that if any members of the Commission have questions about
any matter before it, to please call her rather than other members of the
staff. Mrs. Romans pointed out that she is the ex-officio member of the Com-1
mission appointed by the City Manager, and that in order to carry out that
responsibility effectively, she prefers to be the staff contact.
In response to a query from Mr. Hanson, Mrs. Romans stated that there are no
cases on the agenda for the Commission on March 8. Mr. Hanson suggested that
discussion of the goals for the ensuing year be scheduled for that meeting.
VII. COMMISSIONER'S CHOICE.
Mr. Carson stated that he wanted staff to bring back to the Commission for
reconsideration the provisions of the B-2 Zone District pertaining to auto
sales lots. He expressed his dislike "telling used car dealers they have to
set cars back 10 feet from the property line", and to landscape that area. He
pointed out that other uses along South Broadway have weeds and trees over-
hanging the sidewalk making it difficult or impossible to walk along a portion
of the sidewalk.
Mrs. Romans pointed out that there is a suit before the Court at the present
time, and that before this issue is considered further by the Commission she
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would suggest that it be cleared with the City Attorney to determine any pos-
sible ramifications on the suit. Mr. Carson stated that he did not feel this
issue needed to be cleared with the City Attorney, and that the City Charter
indicates the Commission can have items brought back for further consider-
ation. Discussion ensued.
Mr. Hanson suggested that this might be one of the goals to be listed for dis-
cussion at the next meeting.
Carson moved: The staff bring the B-2 provisions pertaining to used Car
dealerships back to the Commission for further consideration.
There was no second to the motion.
Discussion ensued. Mr. Hanson asked if there was anything else to be brought
before the Commission.
Mr. Carson stated that he wanted a second to his motion. Mr. Barbre stated
that he is of the opinion this should be cleared through the City Attorney's
office. Mr. Draper stated that he wanted to read the ordinance through and
familiarize himself with the details before it's brought back to the Commis-
sion. Again, no member of the Commission seconded Mr. Carson's motion.
Mr. Hanson stated that he felt the reconsideration of the B-2 District should
be included on the "laundry list" of items the Commission will consider this
next year, and that items will be prioritized following a general discussion
at the next meeting.
The meeting adjourned at 8:35 P. M.
Gertrude G. Welty
Recording Secretary
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